Koreans/the Chinese being embarrassed that Karina’s apology was broadcasted globally will forever be funny. Just shows they need to stop being so toxic
@@redvelbeyexox she shouldn't be apologizing for anything at all I swear people will do the most ridiculous stuff to make a kpop idol apologise for something they shouldn't be apologizing for
Why is Karina hated because she dated? I mean should she remain single and lonely because of fans? 🙄 The love Karina have for them? What??? Is she married to the fans? This is unbelievable.
The unhappy and miserable fangirls are mad she liked a man. Korea is a traditional conservative country and they take gender roles pretty seriously. If she finds a man who can provide, protect, and love her for all of eternity..we should be happy for her
The company was 1 thing, the most important thing is these guys probably fantasize about her or dream about her at night. Men stay away from a taken girl. When she's in a relationship, she lost her imaginary gf status in their hearts.
And yk with ppl on the internet. Instead of being mature and responsible like they'd be irl when ppl they know are watching, they choose to whine like 6 yos online. It's like those visitors that want to cause a reckus in a building whenever they don't like something, but know there are consequences irl, while there aren't consequences online.
I'm not blink or Lisa's fan but I have question! When Jennies fanbase attacked Lisa for her dancing in closed show(cabaret ) meanwhile their bias jenie was smoker? It's duplicity when they said Lisa has bad effect to blinks but Jennie smoking and it's effected good for Blinks?😢🎉
most of the kpop fans (not all, but most!) are either chronically online, kids, or unemployed. That's why ALL the groups' fandoms are toxic in some way
I feel so bad for idols who are dating or want to date. Just let them do what they want. They are human beings who sure feel lonely sometimes during their busy schedules and if they wanna be with someone that's totally fine. Some toxic ass fans should get a life!
K-pop fans are very toxic and down right hateful. I’m a fan on BTS and I can’t wait to see the members married with kids. I wish they could tell us who they are dating now, I’m very curious about their taste in partners. But I’m an international fan, and us over here in North America, love seeing celebrities in relationships.
Same!!! I remember there was a run bts episode where jimin told the members something along the lines of "i cant wait to see your kids" all the members were surprised and laugh but i got so happy hearing that. I legit went in my head "awwwww me too".
There's too much hatred towards these idols which is not warranted not enough positivity. Not everyone will like you but these idols are not bad people, they are only human and they will make mistakes and poor choices and they will learn from them just like everyone else, that is life.
This is totally ridiculous. Like why do K-pop fans act all serious and dramatic about an idol’s relationship? Let them be. It’s what makes them happy !!! 🙄🙄
We have a saying in America, "If you look for problems, you’ll find them.” I really think Idols should just live their best lives moving forward. Don’t let strangers that, very likely, are deeply unsatisfied with their own lives, tell you what to do in your own. I’ve come to think the word netizen is just another word for bully.
These 'viviz' and gfriend fans' aren't true Na.V's and Buddies, that's not how all ex-gfriend members want their fans to act up on, even if it's a group that caused the gfriend we loved to disband.
Why this Netizens have so many problems with the idols dating huh, they don't have their own love life nor have any interesting things going on in their life so they just assume that everyone's life belongs to them
The Le Sserafim hate spiraled from criticism to r*** and death threats and not one netizen questioned it even one bit. And Sakura's apology was valid. I mean she addressed the criticism and said that her goal for Coachella was to create a fun atmosphere so why the fuck do people think she was arrogant? And here's my question. Why did MHJ even mention Illit in the first place if she knew it wasn't their fault but they would still get flamed? There is absolutely no way she didn't expect that to happen being in the industry for so long.
MHJ said in the press conference that it wasn't Illit's fault. People accuse her for something she didn't even say or do. She only mentioned Illit because their plagiarism was the center of the discussion of the heat between ADOR and HYBE.
Even after taking vocal practices and improvement still led to the hate even more which is crazy. The criticism isn’t valid and reasonable anymore just pure hate. I also believed eunchae would be here on the list but thankfully she isn’t, because the hate she received was really bad. I personally think hyuna’s criticism and hate is pretty reasonable considering the fact that the burning sun was a huge deal in asia and the K-pop industry as a whole but the rest is just bs at this point.
I kind of feel like Hyuna is dating junghyun as a publicity stunt (no press is bad press sort of thing) and while Le Sserafim's vocals were pretty bad, but the audience seemed to be enjoying themselves, so really there's no harm, no foul. The R*** and D**** threats these idols are receiving is uncalled for and down right disrespectful, especially given the reasoning behind it.
I know I feel the same but apparently they're getting married soon~ I hope that Junghyun has realized and accepted his mistake.. Afterall we all make mistakes u can't keep criticizing him forever for it
She definitely wouldn’t have thrown her career in the gutter for a publicity stunt, it’s highly unlikely she’ll regain popularity even if they break up.
@@therealgrimreaper68 I guess she wouldn't still be dating junghyun if it was a publicity stunt but also, I don't think she could have guessed how bad the response to her dating junghyun would have been. I'm on the fence about it, we as viewers only know so much about celebrity's lives.
Said once I’ll say it again, KPOP is NOT about music or its artistry. How can anyone take a genre seriously when the fans they already do have, cant? Thee most immature, incel, obsessed genre I have ever seen.
So sad tho about the kpop community, that's why I rather enjoy their music and not to engage with the community, that is what I do for the sake of my sanity and it's easy to do this
You know people shouldn't be harsh to much on idol after all there just human like us, who made mistakes,people has flaws nobody is perfect and we don't even know what they been through. What you see is not all about it. There's always good and bad side.
This industry is insane, along with a small percentage of fan bases. Grow up and let them live their own lives. People get worked up for nothing. These folks are performers, no one fan owns them.
That’s so immature. KPop stans, I really need you to remember that idols are professional performers and human beings. They deserve happiness just like anyone else does. Dating should not be a scandal.
Legit it doesn't matter if idols date. You can be a little butt hurt, but have some human decency and wish nothing but the best for them. Not sure why people were so angry about idols for dating.
2:07 ok I got MAD with this one, did SHE, KARINA personally SAY she was les ?? NO it was the dumb ppl who WANTED her to be les. Can someone not be friendly with their friends without someone telling them “oh you do this and this a certain way you MUST be this!! Yeahhh ok from now on ur this” and then Blame THEM for THEIR delusions ?? Ridiculous
the hate on ILLIT is so forced. no matter how many times it’s been so clear and said that it’s NOT the members’s fault, people still come out here to BLAME the GIRLS for the adults’ behaviour. LET ILLIT STAY OUT OF THIS WHOLE FEUD- it’s not their fault IF it’s the same. 😐😐
illit's problem is that their survival show was very rigged keeping many other girls without debuting and now hybe isn't even giving them vocal training or songs that fit them so now they are we eating hated but we need to remember they are human too and give them encouragement instead of hate
Wow. The childishness and complete villainous control that Asian fans have over their idols is crazy. So toxic how controlling they are. The asian media is not any better. No wonder Idols are scared to even breath. The world is watching this.
Hyuna can't marry dawn even after dating him for 6 years but she can marry that red flag after dating him for 1 year maybe? I don't know what's going on inside her mind
.......................... and this is why I said these kpop idols if it isn't about being fantasized sexually, obsessed with their bodies, parasocial weirdness, brain dead toxic fanwars, they aren't cared before.
what do fans want want from kpop idols like they know they are not gonna get together with them so stop ruining their relationship and let them live peacefully 🙄
knetz & fans from the late 2010s-present are the reason why I hate interactions with others online. Makes me want to just stan western artists at this point with the amount of toxic kpop fans are. Ppl make me sick. Like why do fans freak out over every little thing? They're human, let them live in peace! If they wanna date, let em. If you don't like an idol's views, just stop listening to their music. Simple as that, that's what I do when I find idols I don't like.
I honestly find it so dumb that an idol can’t even date someone without getting hated on like that’s their life choice, and is it hurting anyone? No, is it your business? No, and idols make thousands of dollars while haters are making zero dollars.
There should be moderators on these idols social media sites. The hate is ridiculous. If you don't like someone, don't go on to their social media. Period. Good for Source Music for doing this.
As much as I disagree with Hyuna dating Junhyung, I don’t bother myself with it. She’s an adult, she can make her own decisions. But it does make me baffled. For those of you that don’t know the extent of the burning sun case, I recommend you look into it. Rotten mango has a good video on it, and recently, 2 new update videos. She really goes in depth to the absolutely horrific crimes against innocent women that were orchestrated in that club. Junhyung may or may not have been a part of it, but the fact he responded in such a way to a video like that… idk how I could date someone like that.
I would love to have a one on one chat with one of the haters and ask why they hate when idols date. I am just curious for their answer because none of the idols deserve hate for falling in love, they are human just like everyone else. I just don't get why they think they can like control their life and who they date. They deserve to have a love life, they are not married to the fans or anything!! It so ridiculous! Like if you don't them then leave don't hate and make life harder for them. I angers me so much😢😡
It's seriosly ridiculous how fans overreact just bcuz an Idol is dating someone. like bro, they are humans, they can date too. I dont understand these fans' problem with every single thing an Idol does.
The entitlement of the fans stem from the industry's baiting them to buy everything about a group, spending millions, the specific reason they think they own the group and their lives. I have never heard someone in authority in the industry declare or say that fans do not own the artists' lives just because they spend so much money on them, or anything along that line with emphasis on not owning their personal lives. Sadly, that's what money can do.
karina ??? disliked ??? she did get backlash for a while but are people still mad ? i feel like it’s been forgotten or am i just completely out of the loop.
It is a shame that many people have chosen to ignore the horendous crimes commited by the people involved in the Burning Sun scandal. Hyuna one of Goo Hara's "friends" is now hooked up with one of the chat room scum bags Yong Junhyung. I will say it over and over, she doesn't seem to have a brian cell left in her head. 32 years old you'd think she would know right from wrong. She should know Money doesn't buy you Love or Intelligence! What a disgrace! They deserve each other! I cannot and never will understand how these people walk free to commit the same crimes over again. Thank you for this.
Honestly I feel low-key sick abbout having shipped her and Dawn when the power imbalance is so clear as day in hindsight. He loved her, risked everything for her and got dumped so she could hook up with this loser?! Hyuna and her new boyfriend do deserve each other, just like Dawn deserved WAY better. I am hoping the best for him and that he will find happiness with a sweet girl that's not taking advantage of him and treats him wonderfully. I'd still attend his future wedding if I could. HyunA can f*ck off, as an ex-fan of hers that was a victim of SA, I feel so betrayed as her music helped me out so much on my healing journey. If there is an afterlife then I hope GooHara hasn't shed tears over this...
@@inferiorinferno8859 Couldn't agree more! I am sorry for your experience and having been a victim, hopefully you are able to keep looking ahead in your life.
Le Sserafim are getting more loved & well known that's y haters keep bringing them down. Why netizens didn't hate their vocals in their Fearless & Antifragile era? Because Le Sserafim are getting popular & their songs are great. Haters are hating them because Le Sserafim is a threat to their flopping fav idols😂😂💀💀. Facts!💅💅
2:07 I don't think real people can queerbait, sexuality is soooo, fluid and confusing that saying someone is queerbait for figuring themselves out. Leave people out and let them find themselves. I hope Karina can be happy with someone farther who has done the line without the toxicity from entitled losers online. No genuine MY/ Karina fan would try to control their life. Remember, the idealized vision of your favs in your head is NOT them as a person.
People need to understand that no matter what you do, you'll always be a bad guy in someone's eye. So just do you. Enjoy life on your own terms. That's where you experience true freedom and peace.
I don’t think shows like “Dispatch” shouldn’t exist since all they do is follow idols and exposing them for relationships that fans don’t know about and I don’t think they care if idols get hate
Dating should not ever be considered a “scandal” - unless someone is cheating during the relationship. I really really hate how controlling knetz are over idols. No matter what these Kpop idols do they’re somehow always in the wrong in the eyes of knetz. “How dare she date someone! She needs to apologize!” “How dare she write an apology! She’s so tacky!” Like seriously??!? The hypocrisy is fuming!!
10:22 how comments were not this one bit almost every TikTok she was in everyone would say ‘Starbucks queen” or something related to Starbucks even tho multiple other idols have drank it during the boycot like all bp members, ive, and aespa members
Lesserafim....wow....quite a lot. Do people not know idols are humans? Lol. 😅 Like everyone should chill. Just imagine if they get hated and get threats, how would they feel? Don't do to others what you don't want done to you. The idols are human being. Constructive criticism is alright, threats and false rumors and hate is not. You don't like the group? Move on. But I don't get illit's hate though.
1- Karina deserves apology from ppl who hated her for dating and for writing apology letter!!! 2- .... 3- Min hee jin already said Illit girls are innocent and it is adult's problem. As a bunny, if u don't like them, just don't watch them, skip their videos if it appears, no-one is forcing you to watch them. 4- Lesserafim, same with Illit, just skip them if you want, you have no right to insult juat bc you don't like them.
First of Karima was not in love with Lee Jaewook nor he was they went to a show liked each other's vibe later they went for a date and after that we all know what happened 😂 they got over eo at just 5 weeks they are young Karina has a bright future
10:28...I understand what is going on rn and people really need to make a big deal??? like lets be fr, they're other countries that are suffering too, not only Palestine....btw they do nothing for the other countries......people are so disgusting.
Netizens always have something to whine and complain about, but don't realize that everyone else can see what they are saying about idols online. It's honestly just sad that these people are projecting their insecurities and self-hatred onto these idols but then get defensive and sometimes scared when everyone calls them out for their actions yet some of them will pull the victim card in order get themselves out of a situation that they caused in the first place and for some reason they don't get punished for it? That's just my opinion.
Who hates bc of sleeping,reading,drinking starbucks, bro K-pop fans have gone too far, plus who hates if an ADULT is dating, i can understand if it is a teen but an adult bro feels like don't be a kpop fan or a kpop idol like thats my dream to be an kpop idol but wow literally 😢 And at 1 point people want to target them bro it is the company like try to be a kpop idol if you think it is that easy Kpop should get more security Like comments should be off Hate spreaders should be punisht and people who go deep and understand,explains etc should be promoted Pls pin so everyone can see❤
Why do they care if she dated someone first of all its none of your business her love life should be hers alone to dictate second of all its not like you are ever gonna date her so why be mad when she chooses to date someone
Idols getting hated for dating is insane like why does it bother you? The idols don’t know you stop being paradoxical and weird do u expect these good looking idols to be single??
The conversation needs to include the behavior of the labels and artists themselves who engage in parasocial behavior to “connect”. I think it’s unhealthy and prays on lonely people. In the West these boundaries are more defined I feel like.
My opinion on everyone hated on: Karina: totally unnecessary like bro she’s 24 not 13😭 Hyuna: DESERVED! SHE FU(KED UP AND DOES NOT EVEN GIVE A FU(K, if she wasn’t looking for public approval, why did she even bother to reveal this relationship at all????? Illit: unnecessary, hate on the higher ups not the group. Lesserafim: mostly unnecessary, I can understand why they criticized their vocals but like it wasn’t the worst😭 + they were dancing so obviously they would have a harder time singing live… Yunjin: Starbucks thing is totally valid. The rest unnecessary Sakura: like Lesserafim, mostly unnecessary bc everyone improves over time, the weird accusations are totally unnecessary tho
Starbucks thing is totally unjustified too. It's like forcing them to take a side on the issue which they do not have a full understanding of and doesn't concern their daily life. People who can't force their own governments to say anything on the issue are preying on celebrities. No world issue is gonna resolve by boycotting any brand,celebrities and brands they are nothing in this whole puzzle of world politics. Also people are big time hypocrites, they themselves will soon forget everything and will continue to drink Starbucks and will still keep buying from their fav brands but criticize when a celebrity does the same.
Mind you the Starbucks thing is not an issue. You can not force your ideologies on people. It’s her choice to support whoever she wants, nobody gets to tell her what to do. She’s first yunjin before she is your idol and not your puppet.
I know I feel the same but apparently they're getting married soon~ I hope that Junghyun has realized and accepted his mistake.. Afterall we all make mistakes u can't keep criticizing him forever for it
Those Netizens are disgusting and sick people. These “idols” am are someone’s child. Just like you have a MOM & DAD ??, they do to. These are still young “adults” aka still figuring out life, They had a dream worked for it and now it’s theirs; you ( the everyday person who can “sing or wtv”)become an IDOL. the STRESS, the PRESSURE !!!!, like ??? You made it, then your on camera every other day, dancing for hours ! Understand that they are not joking when they say they TRAIN and dance for HOURS (being you dance for 5-6 hrs then you’d get to eat🙃) how many times do we have to go over this!?!?? You wouldn’t dare Yes we as viewers our opinions Do matter, BUT AT SOME POINT this is abuse. Truly imagine yourself in those shoes, You would cry EVERY DAY. And these are girls… like really ????.. you as a girl! Know the feeling of too much pressure.. if you are someone who leaves these comments your very oild. You should be much more careful with your word selection from now sense Source Music is handling out those defamation charges like they’re skittles. Be Kind ! It’ll get you far😆💗
What i don't understand is, they are perfectly fine with the Creeps that live freely after vile crimes but are this vitriolic against girls with virtually no fault. My blood still boils about the Miryang Group Assault Case.
Like some fans are really obsessed what's wrong with being in a relationship with someone like you aren't??, like you made literally a adult to apologize for being dating like stop messing round with their dating life
Like, this is how it goes with dating rumours, 1. A dating rumour involving an idol is speculated. 2. The dating rumour is officially confirmed. 3. Fans start to get upset and start throwing hate at both of the people in the couple, even going to the point of ceasing to buy albums and other merchandise. 4. The people in the couple, namely the idol, has to apologise even though there is no need to apologise because fans are the problem. 5. The couple breaks up because of the hate that they get. This happens literally EVERY TIME (barring the HyunA and Yong Junhyung scandal and maybe a few others that had a different issue), all because fans get so upset that the idols are not dating them (the fans) instead of the person that they are dating. I can't even put my finger on why this is so frustrating.
Just shows how empty haters' lives are, so empty that they meddle with fully grown adults' lives. I actually feel bad that their life is so miserable that they resort to annoying everybody. Actually, not really, cos they should know better...
Koreans/the Chinese being embarrassed that Karina’s apology was broadcasted globally will forever be funny. Just shows they need to stop being so toxic
Lol they were exactly the reason why she even had to apologize in the first place.
@@redvelbeyexox she shouldn't be apologizing for anything at all I swear people will do the most ridiculous stuff to make a kpop idol apologise for something they shouldn't be apologizing for
and chinese fans are a huge part of it
A lot of koreans/Chinese fans aren't like that...but ya know
@@babybread3888 I know. I wasn’t generalizing the entire population of them being negative or toxic. I still think it’s hilarious tho
Ridiculous that fans literally freak out when a celebrity dates someone.
some of them are just down right delusional.. 😭
unless it's HyunA, of course
Fr they're idols have the rights to do everything to want let's be honest seeing the idols apologizing for smt normal in life just make me feel bad
Yeah except for HyenA
4:23 You accidentally wrote 2020 not 2022
Why is Karina hated because she dated? I mean should she remain single and lonely because of fans? 🙄 The love Karina have for them? What??? Is she married to the fans? This is unbelievable.
The unhappy and miserable fangirls are mad she liked a man. Korea is a traditional conservative country and they take gender roles pretty seriously. If she finds a man who can provide, protect, and love her for all of eternity..we should be happy for her
The company was 1 thing, the most important thing is these guys probably fantasize about her or dream about her at night. Men stay away from a taken girl. When she's in a relationship, she lost her imaginary gf status in their hearts.
And yk with ppl on the internet. Instead of being mature and responsible like they'd be irl when ppl they know are watching, they choose to whine like 6 yos online. It's like those visitors that want to cause a reckus in a building whenever they don't like something, but know there are consequences irl, while there aren't consequences online.
bruh apparently someone spent money so eventually they could get married ? lol get a life freak
Bruh she needs to focus on her career
Netizens are toxic af
most of these KPOP stans are either 12 year olds or grown ass adults who act and think like one... sad to see.
@@SCRIABINISTsomeone who has brain FINALLY 👌
international fans are not different
@@misskata8511 I'm pretty sure netizens are international too.
Netizens I think is coined from the words "Citizen" and "Net" (as in online).
@Godongo yup but most of the time people blame knetz but never talk how bad international netz are
Fans aren't happy with anything. These Idols are people not objects🙄
Why people hate idols? If you don't like someone, don't watch and go away. Wtf
yes i agree so much with you
Exactly!!! but idk about hyuna though cause people can't defend her on that....
Because parents give their kids iPhones or iPads to shut them up, so they get parented by the internet…
@@Angie-qb1yslike the poster of the comment said if they don’t like her then they can leave her alone
I'm not blink or Lisa's fan but I have question! When Jennies fanbase attacked Lisa for her dancing in closed show(cabaret ) meanwhile their bias jenie was smoker? It's duplicity when they said Lisa has bad effect to blinks but Jennie smoking and it's effected good for Blinks?😢🎉
I see why so many less people are becoming trainees these days, it would be terrible to have to go through this.
This is absolutely insane. I feel like K-pop fans spend hours looking for something they can stretch to make hate for the idols.
most of the kpop fans (not all, but most!) are either chronically online, kids, or unemployed. That's why ALL the groups' fandoms are toxic in some way
I can't believe Karina did the apology. She just should not give an F.
Sadly kpop & korea is not like hollywood
I feel so bad for idols who are dating or want to date. Just let them do what they want. They are human beings who sure feel lonely sometimes during their busy schedules and if they wanna be with someone that's totally fine. Some toxic ass fans should get a life!
K-pop fans are very toxic and down right hateful. I’m a fan on BTS and I can’t wait to see the members married with kids. I wish they could tell us who they are dating now, I’m very curious about their taste in partners. But I’m an international fan, and us over here in North America, love seeing celebrities in relationships.
Me too, I'm curious as well I only want happiness for them
Same here❤❤
Me too, I just want bts to be happy💜
Same!!! I remember there was a run bts episode where jimin told the members something along the lines of "i cant wait to see your kids" all the members were surprised and laugh but i got so happy hearing that. I legit went in my head "awwwww me too".
Why are people hating on Karina what has she done to get so much hate seriously what is wrong with people nowadays
illit really didn’t deserve the hate they did nothing wrong
Idk why wonhee got hate for getting injured… what’s wrong with bad netizens…
@@zachyzxchzach fr
@@zachyzxchzach literally bro
@@zachyzxchzach because apparently they thought she was "faking it" for sympathy
@@_itzmidzy_ imagine how she would feel , being in such pain after getting hurt then getting hate for being hurt
There's too much hatred towards these idols which is not warranted not enough positivity. Not everyone will like you but these idols are not bad people, they are only human and they will make mistakes and poor choices and they will learn from them just like everyone else, that is life.
This is totally ridiculous. Like why do K-pop fans act all serious and dramatic about an idol’s relationship? Let them be. It’s what makes them happy !!! 🙄🙄
We have a saying in America, "If you look for problems, you’ll find them.” I really think Idols should just live their best lives moving forward. Don’t let strangers that, very likely, are deeply unsatisfied with their own lives, tell you what to do in your own. I’ve come to think the word netizen is just another word for bully.
In America we deal problems with guns can't do that in korea
Viviz and gfriend fans sending Sakura death threats just because source music disbanded their favs. Like how immature can a fandom be
These 'viviz' and gfriend fans' aren't true Na.V's and Buddies, that's not how all ex-gfriend members want their fans to act up on, even if it's a group that caused the gfriend we loved to disband.
well you're as braindead as those few idiots if you believe the whole fandom will do such thing
I do not claim them as buddies or na.vs
Yeah those are more than likely toxic fans bc I have not heard of this >>
They should send these threats to pig pd
Why this Netizens have so many problems with the idols dating huh, they don't have their own love life nor have any interesting things going on in their life so they just assume that everyone's life belongs to them
The Le Sserafim hate spiraled from criticism to r*** and death threats and not one netizen questioned it even one bit. And Sakura's apology was valid. I mean she addressed the criticism and said that her goal for Coachella was to create a fun atmosphere so why the fuck do people think she was arrogant? And here's my question. Why did MHJ even mention Illit in the first place if she knew it wasn't their fault but they would still get flamed? There is absolutely no way she didn't expect that to happen being in the industry for so long.
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MHJ said in the press conference that it wasn't Illit's fault. People accuse her for something she didn't even say or do. She only mentioned Illit because their plagiarism was the center of the discussion of the heat between ADOR and HYBE.
@@MinSeokSong-f8dthey could have solve the problem with just a mere table talk 😔
@@MinSeokSong-f8d she directly said illit in the first report she sended and only later corrected it
Even after taking vocal practices and improvement still led to the hate even more which is crazy. The criticism isn’t valid and reasonable anymore just pure hate. I also believed eunchae would be here on the list but thankfully she isn’t, because the hate she received was really bad. I personally think hyuna’s criticism and hate is pretty reasonable considering the fact that the burning sun was a huge deal in asia and the K-pop industry as a whole but the rest is just bs at this point.
lol, the amount of people's creativity to blame idols and hate them is really something.
I don't understand why people hate idols for dumb reasons, they are humans like us!!
It's been like that since 1st gen K-Pop
Because people are dumb
fr imagine hating someone for drinking a starbucks or eating in mcdonalds.....
@@misskata8511fr
@@misskata8511 do you even know why people are mad for them drinking and eating there...?
They executed it badly but they are right.
I kind of feel like Hyuna is dating junghyun as a publicity stunt (no press is bad press sort of thing) and while Le Sserafim's vocals were pretty bad, but the audience seemed to be enjoying themselves, so really there's no harm, no foul. The R*** and D**** threats these idols are receiving is uncalled for and down right disrespectful, especially given the reasoning behind it.
I know I feel the same but apparently they're getting married soon~
I hope that Junghyun has realized and accepted his mistake.. Afterall we all make mistakes u can't keep criticizing him forever for it
@@bot.6133 I didn't criticize him
She definitely wouldn’t have thrown her career in the gutter for a publicity stunt, it’s highly unlikely she’ll regain popularity even if they break up.
@@therealgrimreaper68 I guess she wouldn't still be dating junghyun if it was a publicity stunt but also, I don't think she could have guessed how bad the response to her dating junghyun would have been. I'm on the fence about it, we as viewers only know so much about celebrity's lives.
@@camillewalters9521 she definitely would have, people know his involvement
0:00 Karina
3:54 Hyuna
6:28 Min Hee Jin
10:45 Sakura
Lots of girls... 🤔
Ewwww… some fans are gross! How could someone sincerely expect an apology for dating!? Apologies need to stop!!!
Said once I’ll say it again, KPOP is NOT about music or its artistry. How can anyone take a genre seriously when the fans they already do have, cant? Thee most immature, incel, obsessed genre I have ever seen.
So sad tho about the kpop community, that's why I rather enjoy their music and not to engage with the community, that is what I do for the sake of my sanity and it's easy to do this
You know people shouldn't be harsh to much on idol after all there just human like us, who made mistakes,people has flaws nobody is perfect and we don't even know what they been through. What you see is not all about it. There's always good and bad side.
This industry is insane, along with a small percentage of fan bases. Grow up and let them live their own lives. People get worked up for nothing. These folks are performers, no one fan owns them.
Yapping about their personal lives results in problems and heartbreak
I will not forgive anyone who treated le sserafim like that, because criticizing is different from hating. The girls deserve better 💔
It wasn't nice to notice source music kick out a innocent member from the group
I do not understand why fans lose it when idols date. THEY’RE PEOPLE TOO?????
That’s so immature. KPop stans, I really need you to remember that idols are professional performers and human beings. They deserve happiness just like anyone else does. Dating should not be a scandal.
Since when did sending literal dead threats become "valid criticism"?????, and then these "fans" wonder why idols are committing suicide.. smh
My God these fans are hateful. I wouldn’t even call them fans, they are toxic waste.
Legit it doesn't matter if idols date. You can be a little butt hurt, but have some human decency and wish nothing but the best for them. Not sure why people were so angry about idols for dating.
2:07 ok I got MAD with this one, did SHE, KARINA personally SAY she was les ?? NO it was the dumb ppl who WANTED her to be les. Can someone not be friendly with their friends without someone telling them “oh you do this and this a certain way you MUST be this!! Yeahhh ok from now on ur this” and then Blame THEM for THEIR delusions ?? Ridiculous
People are hating because they are JEALOUS. They can cry about it because it is her personal life
imagine having to apologize cuz u fell in love ?????????????????????
FR if I asked one of her Chinese fans to break up with who they r with currently will they do it? They r so unreasonable
the hate on ILLIT is so forced. no matter how many times it’s been so clear and said that it’s NOT the members’s fault, people still come out here to BLAME the GIRLS for the adults’ behaviour. LET ILLIT STAY OUT OF THIS WHOLE FEUD- it’s not their fault IF it’s the same. 😐😐
They are ready to get sued just wait and watch .
illit's problem is that their survival show was very rigged keeping many other girls without debuting and now hybe isn't even giving them vocal training or songs that fit them so now they are we eating hated but we need to remember they are human too and give them encouragement instead of hate
@@mythicz3863no illit songs are great i don't what the girl crush concept same as babymonster
Wow. The childishness and complete villainous control that Asian fans have over their idols is crazy. So toxic how controlling they are. The asian media is not any better. No wonder Idols are scared to even breath. The world is watching this.
Me, as a German
If you love someone you wish him or her all the best and eternal happiness.
Hyuna can't marry dawn even after dating him for 6 years but she can marry that red flag after dating him for 1 year maybe? I don't know what's going on inside her mind
It's so sad that I knew every single one of them would be here.
.......................... and this is why I said these kpop idols if it isn't about being fantasized sexually, obsessed with their bodies, parasocial weirdness, brain dead toxic fanwars, they aren't cared before.
Toxicity in Korean entertainment is the reason why a lot of people are now turning away from them.They really need to settle their fans and laws
"ALLEGED" the bad vocals are not alleged their bad vocals are a fact that should be taken as that until they improve
what do fans want want from kpop idols like they know they are not gonna get together with them so stop ruining their relationship and let them live peacefully 🙄
knetz & fans from the late 2010s-present are the reason why I hate interactions with others online. Makes me want to just stan western artists at this point with the amount of toxic kpop fans are. Ppl make me sick. Like why do fans freak out over every little thing? They're human, let them live in peace! If they wanna date, let em. If you don't like an idol's views, just stop listening to their music. Simple as that, that's what I do when I find idols I don't like.
As a fan since 2011, what on earth are you talking about? Most toxic fans started becoming prevalent after like, 2017?
he was on the molka chats... He was the one who gave up the police contact identity for the investigation to explode
I honestly find it so dumb that an idol can’t even date someone without getting hated on like that’s their life choice, and is it hurting anyone? No, is it your business? No, and idols make thousands of dollars while haters are making zero dollars.
There should be moderators on these idols social media sites. The hate is ridiculous. If you don't like someone, don't go on to their social media. Period. Good for Source Music for doing this.
I don’t understand why they get so much hate! Let them do their job.
I feel so sorry for Le ssarefim honestly,i hope source music and Hybe take serious action against those individuals that try to ruin them.
bro as a karina fan you have to be happy for her and be happy that she's having a good life
This is really laughable, these toxic fans are so shameless, they feel like the idols are committed to them, what freaking fans are you!!!!!!
As much as I disagree with Hyuna dating Junhyung, I don’t bother myself with it. She’s an adult, she can make her own decisions.
But it does make me baffled. For those of you that don’t know the extent of the burning sun case, I recommend you look into it. Rotten mango has a good video on it, and recently, 2 new update videos. She really goes in depth to the absolutely horrific crimes against innocent women that were orchestrated in that club. Junhyung may or may not have been a part of it, but the fact he responded in such a way to a video like that… idk how I could date someone like that.
Fans are getting crazier each generation.
I would love to have a one on one chat with one of the haters and ask why they hate when idols date. I am just curious for their answer because none of the idols deserve hate for falling in love, they are human just like everyone else. I just don't get why they think they can like control their life and who they date. They deserve to have a love life, they are not married to the fans or anything!! It so ridiculous! Like if you don't them then leave don't hate and make life harder for them. I angers me so much😢😡
Netizens are so infuriating omg
The only idol I think should be hated this year is HyunA and we should all know why
It's seriosly ridiculous how fans overreact just bcuz an Idol is dating someone. like bro, they are humans, they can date too. I dont understand these fans' problem with every single thing an Idol does.
Probably, ILLIT & LE SSERAFIM are my Bias Girl Groups on this List!!! 😢💔
The entitlement of the fans stem from the industry's baiting them to buy everything about a group, spending millions, the specific reason they think they own the group and their lives. I have never heard someone in authority in the industry declare or say that fans do not own the artists' lives just because they spend so much money on them, or anything along that line with emphasis on not owning their personal lives. Sadly, that's what money can do.
Man….. kpop idols stans are something else…..
karina ??? disliked ??? she did get backlash for a while but are people still mad ? i feel like it’s been forgotten or am i just completely out of the loop.
“ fell in love at first sight” is it a kdrama!! Good luck to them probably were together as they could talk together, in a different country.
It is a shame that many people have chosen to ignore the horendous crimes commited by the people involved in the Burning Sun scandal. Hyuna one of Goo Hara's "friends" is now hooked up with one of the chat room scum bags Yong Junhyung. I will say it over and over, she doesn't seem to have a brian cell left in her head. 32 years old you'd think she would know right from wrong. She should know Money doesn't buy you Love or Intelligence! What a disgrace! They deserve each other! I cannot and never will understand how these people walk free to commit the same crimes over again. Thank you for this.
Honestly I feel low-key sick abbout having shipped her and Dawn when the power imbalance is so clear as day in hindsight. He loved her, risked everything for her and got dumped so she could hook up with this loser?! Hyuna and her new boyfriend do deserve each other, just like Dawn deserved WAY better. I am hoping the best for him and that he will find happiness with a sweet girl that's not taking advantage of him and treats him wonderfully. I'd still attend his future wedding if I could. HyunA can f*ck off, as an ex-fan of hers that was a victim of SA, I feel so betrayed as her music helped me out so much on my healing journey. If there is an afterlife then I hope GooHara hasn't shed tears over this...
@@inferiorinferno8859 Couldn't agree more! I am sorry for your experience and having been a victim, hopefully you are able to keep looking ahead in your life.
People like you need to stop being so invested in other people's love lives. They can and will date whomever they want. If you don't like it, move on.
Le Sserafim are getting more loved & well known that's y haters keep bringing them down. Why netizens didn't hate their vocals in their Fearless & Antifragile era? Because Le Sserafim are getting popular & their songs are great. Haters are hating them because Le Sserafim is a threat to their flopping fav idols😂😂💀💀. Facts!💅💅
HELP IMAGINE YOU GET ACCUSED OF COPYING SOMEONE BC YOU GOT HURT😭😭
2:07 I don't think real people can queerbait, sexuality is soooo, fluid and confusing that saying someone is queerbait for figuring themselves out. Leave people out and let them find themselves. I hope Karina can be happy with someone farther who has done the line without the toxicity from entitled losers online. No genuine MY/ Karina fan would try to control their life. Remember, the idealized vision of your favs in your head is NOT them as a person.
People need to understand that no matter what you do, you'll always be a bad guy in someone's eye. So just do you. Enjoy life on your own terms.
That's where you experience true freedom and peace.
some fans are really jealous especially girl fans they think boy group date them but in reality fans are only 13 or 14 or 15
I don’t think shows like “Dispatch” shouldn’t exist since all they do is follow idols and exposing them for relationships that fans don’t know about and I don’t think they care if idols get hate
Dating should not ever be considered a “scandal” - unless someone is cheating during the relationship. I really really hate how controlling knetz are over idols. No matter what these Kpop idols do they’re somehow always in the wrong in the eyes of knetz. “How dare she date someone! She needs to apologize!” “How dare she write an apology! She’s so tacky!” Like seriously??!? The hypocrisy is fuming!!
10:22 how comments were not this one bit almost every TikTok she was in everyone would say ‘Starbucks queen” or something related to Starbucks even tho multiple other idols have drank it during the boycot like all bp members, ive, and aespa members
Idols are people with emotions, not objects you can break
honestly i blame min heejin for the hate illit got, she KNEW that the girls wpuld get hate , she and hybe had no reason to make this feud public
Lesserafim....wow....quite a lot. Do people not know idols are humans? Lol. 😅 Like everyone should chill. Just imagine if they get hated and get threats, how would they feel?
Don't do to others what you don't want done to you. The idols are human being. Constructive criticism is alright, threats and false rumors and hate is not. You don't like the group? Move on.
But I don't get illit's hate though.
1- Karina deserves apology from ppl who hated her for dating and for writing apology letter!!!
2- ....
3- Min hee jin already said Illit girls are innocent and it is adult's problem. As a bunny, if u don't like them, just don't watch them, skip their videos if it appears, no-one is forcing you to watch them.
4- Lesserafim, same with Illit, just skip them if you want, you have no right to insult juat bc you don't like them.
Other fans hate when an idol dates someone, it's weird and I don't get why they get so much hate
First of Karima was not in love with Lee Jaewook nor he was they went to a show liked each other's vibe later they went for a date and after that we all know what happened 😂 they got over eo at just 5 weeks they are young Karina has a bright future
Of course it's "Dispatch" 💀💀💀
10:28...I understand what is going on rn and people really need to make a big deal??? like lets be fr, they're other countries that are suffering too, not only Palestine....btw they do nothing for the other countries......people are so disgusting.
Netizens always have something to whine and complain about, but don't realize that everyone else can see what they are saying about idols online. It's honestly just sad that these people are projecting their insecurities and self-hatred onto these idols but then get defensive and sometimes scared when everyone calls them out for their actions yet some of them will pull the victim card in order get themselves out of a situation that they caused in the first place and for some reason they don't get punished for it? That's just my opinion.
Who hates bc of sleeping,reading,drinking starbucks, bro K-pop fans have gone too far, plus who hates if an ADULT is dating, i can understand if it is a teen but an adult bro feels like don't be a kpop fan or a kpop idol like thats my dream to be an kpop idol but wow literally 😢
And at 1 point people want to target them bro it is the company like try to be a kpop idol if you think it is that easy
Kpop should get more security
Like comments should be off
Hate spreaders should be punisht and people who go deep and understand,explains etc should be promoted
Pls pin so everyone can see❤
Why do they care if she dated someone first of all its none of your business her love life should be hers alone to dictate second of all its not like you are ever gonna date her so why be mad when she chooses to date someone
Lol what was the thumbnail 😂
Idols getting hated for dating is insane like why does it bother you? The idols don’t know you stop being paradoxical and weird do u expect these good looking idols to be single??
I’m happy that Kpop idols are dating ❤❤❤❤
The conversation needs to include the behavior of the labels and artists themselves who engage in parasocial behavior to “connect”. I think it’s unhealthy and prays on lonely people.
In the West these boundaries are more defined I feel like.
My opinion on everyone hated on:
Karina: totally unnecessary like bro she’s 24 not 13😭
Hyuna: DESERVED! SHE FU(KED UP AND DOES NOT EVEN GIVE A FU(K, if she wasn’t looking for public approval, why did she even bother to reveal this relationship at all?????
Illit: unnecessary, hate on the higher ups not the group.
Lesserafim: mostly unnecessary, I can understand why they criticized their vocals but like it wasn’t the worst😭 + they were dancing so obviously they would have a harder time singing live…
Yunjin: Starbucks thing is totally valid. The rest unnecessary
Sakura: like Lesserafim, mostly unnecessary bc everyone improves over time, the weird accusations are totally unnecessary tho
Drinking Starbucks is a really dumb reason to hate someone imo. Koreas Starbucks don't support the IDF unlike the us one.
Starbucks thing is totally unjustified too. It's like forcing them to take a side on the issue which they do not have a full understanding of and doesn't concern their daily life. People who can't force their own governments to say anything on the issue are preying on celebrities. No world issue is gonna resolve by boycotting any brand,celebrities and brands they are nothing in this whole puzzle of world politics. Also people are big time hypocrites, they themselves will soon forget everything and will continue to drink Starbucks and will still keep buying from their fav brands but criticize when a celebrity does the same.
Mind you the Starbucks thing is not an issue. You can not force your ideologies on people. It’s her choice to support whoever she wants, nobody gets to tell her what to do. She’s first yunjin before she is your idol and not your puppet.
@@igwewisdom629 Girl.. so you support israel huh?
I know I feel the same but apparently they're getting married soon~
I hope that Junghyun has realized and accepted his mistake.. Afterall we all make mistakes u can't keep criticizing him forever for it
The harassment of Karina was truly revolting. The agencies need to STOP making idols apologise. They need to stand up for their artists.
Idols should be able to date (free of hate) but I’m not going to support HyunA’s relationship. Her behavior is morally wrong and shady. 💔
Dating scandal should be eliminated already. In real life, how you cannot fall for someone who has face card, good careers, and good personality?
Those Netizens are disgusting and sick people. These “idols” am are someone’s child. Just like you have a MOM & DAD ??, they do to. These are still young “adults” aka still figuring out life, They had a dream worked for it and now it’s theirs; you ( the everyday person who can “sing or wtv”)become an IDOL. the STRESS, the PRESSURE !!!!, like ??? You made it, then your on camera every other day, dancing for hours ! Understand that they are not joking when they say they TRAIN and dance for HOURS (being you dance for 5-6 hrs then you’d get to eat🙃) how many times do we have to go over this!?!?? You wouldn’t dare Yes we as viewers our opinions Do matter, BUT AT SOME POINT this is abuse. Truly imagine yourself in those shoes, You would cry EVERY DAY. And these are girls… like really ????.. you as a girl! Know the feeling of too much pressure..
if you are someone who leaves these comments your very oild. You should be much more careful with your word selection from now sense Source Music is handling out those defamation charges like they’re skittles. Be Kind ! It’ll get you far😆💗
A true fan supports their idol not dictate what to do with your idol life. Your not a fan your just plain obsessed 😂😂😂
Amei que tem áudio em português (Português do Brasil), amei esse cuidado com os inscritos.
Le Sserafim's criticism against their bad vocals are still valid.
What i don't understand is, they are perfectly fine with the Creeps that live freely after vile crimes but are this vitriolic against girls with virtually no fault. My blood still boils about the Miryang Group Assault Case.
Like some fans are really obsessed what's wrong with being in a relationship with someone like you aren't??, like you made literally a adult to apologize for being dating like stop messing round with their dating life
Like, this is how it goes with dating rumours,
1. A dating rumour involving an idol is speculated.
2. The dating rumour is officially confirmed.
3. Fans start to get upset and start throwing hate at both of the people in the couple, even going to the point of ceasing to buy albums and other merchandise.
4. The people in the couple, namely the idol, has to apologise even though there is no need to apologise because fans are the problem.
5. The couple breaks up because of the hate that they get.
This happens literally EVERY TIME (barring the HyunA and Yong Junhyung scandal and maybe a few others that had a different issue), all because fans get so upset that the idols are not dating them (the fans) instead of the person that they are dating. I can't even put my finger on why this is so frustrating.
Just shows how empty haters' lives are, so empty that they meddle with fully grown adults' lives.
I actually feel bad that their life is so miserable that they resort to annoying everybody. Actually, not really, cos they should know better...