456. BUILDING & TESTING narrowboat steps (companionway)
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Rip out the electrics cupboard and build a mock up steps as a return companionway. I’m keen to see if this works because in my head it does. Then on to layout design
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Surely if the steps came down in the centre you could have a cupboard on both sides,
Yeah, I don't understand the need for the steps curving around - seems like a waste of space to me. Also looks like it requires more bending down to get in and out
Love all the testing and adjustments for ergonomics and ease of use. Suggest going up and down with shopping in 1 hand, shopping in both hands, a cup a tea or beer or even a plate of food. Might be an idea to get wasted on beer (for testing purposes) and see how easy it is to get up and down while drunk as a skunk.
Working from home sir James. Fair play. 😂👍
Don't forget to try out the rear steps with the hatch and doors closed. Can you open them easily when on the first step up?
☺ You save things because you might need them in the future (and you probably will) but I save things for the same reason and they are still unused years later. LOL Seriously though, test the step height for the little girls. Short legs! If they are too high they'll have trouble getting in and out till they grow more. Happy birthday, Rob.
Please have the pram professionally made and installed.
Interesting video. The turning stairs are definitely the way forward for you - they are great for those with good balance and flexibility so you’ll find them easy to negotiate. With a decent rail placement they will be safer for the girls too so there’s less risk of them falling forward straight down stairs. Looking forward to the design stage now - the wiring and pipes are interesting but completely out of my knowledge frame!! Happy birthday to Rob! Have a great weekend celebrating 😊
Don’t think you want to stoop so much every time you enter and exit using back hatch. Also that first platform is way too big. The hatch top opening needs to also accommodate stepping down. Right now I see a lot of bumped heads, elbows, etc with your present arrangement.
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I'm not feeling it for design #1, James, but it's not my boat.
Send Rob my birthday good wishes.
All the best, mate.
In your decision making for the steps. You may want to keep in mind that traditional working narrow boats had straight steps down into the accommodation, they were practical, for a reason.
It's amazing how much more light comes in the aft door since you removed the two cupboards. Looks great :)
James, I think you should go back and study the video you made from the boat show in Crick where you found the boat with the inspiration for the entry stairs. Your prototype is way bigger and different from the beautiful solution in crick, especially your steps down. I mean, the whole installation, including the steps down, should be little more than 60 cm in depth from entry and in.
Makes me laugh every time you say welcome back to narrowboat james Built and my partner shouts you dint build the dam boat or any boat lol and says they difference between building and renovation to which you done to both of your boats . So it puts a smile on my face every time as she shouts the same thing every time lol
I’ve been thinking about the same steps ideas, but with an L shaped sofa/dinette tucked into it with the short section backing upto the entry/first step & electrics cupboard, with the long section of the couch down the port side. It’s a social space for guests when on the move, it’s where you keep your beers when cruising. You walk in looking over the couch like on a yacht, very cool
If the lower bow step is to be a 'turning step', it could be cut at an angle in the direction of travel, rather than jutting out into the room.
I am glad that you are keeping on top of clearing out things as you take tunings apart. I was worried for a bit about nails, and you falling. 😊 The step idea looks fine. You have been great acknowledging all of us who have contributed to Project 58, for me I don’t have a problem with you painting over my name, I can only imagine others will feel the same. Your boat would end up like a poor Banksy graffiti board 🤣😂 Thanks for sharing all your hard work. 😊🤗 Kathy
so if you're going to have the kitchen first in through the stern doors then the dinette surely has to come next? who wants to be traipsing 20ft for seconds! so the galley is going to have to be u-shaped. then where do you appreciate the wood burner from? something i saw on an old boat for sale at VCM (Glynnmark on YT) was the bathroom in cupboards either side of a central corridor. they were a bit cramped but it did make me think about the deal with having young children on board when things like that can be 'sudden' or in multiples and the idea of a loo room separate from the shower room could smooth out logistical problems.
James, you should get a modern digital instrument panel for your Vetus.
What happens if somebody is drunk they are going to go headfirst into the boat the kids would fall off that platform and do some damage
steps looking great so far i would be alright as i am short but Rob looked bent in half the idea is good though i liked the idea about putting panel near the throttle control so far looking good
Coming along nicely sir... As a few have said maybe look at angled top step to allow a bigger second step. Also all your testing of the steps you have done carrying nothing. Try doing it a few times carrying stuff in and out.. 🍻🍻
how about putting the boat controls in some sort of hinged housing which can be recessed in the wall when not in use and rotated outwards so you can see it while cruising?
I see where you're coming from after James pointed out the cons of mounting the instrument cluster outside (blocking door). ;-)
Why not fit the panel on the door umbilical cord to the cupboard
I thought of that. But it's got all that stuff at the back of the board. It would stop opening the door fully!
What about a pole of sorts like a spiral staircase? Just trying to help 😂. But you will have storage and will need to get things from underneath. As you well know, I don’t know a thing about narrowboats. But this is a great beginning to a fabulous home on the water. Cheers 🍻 ! Or in my case 🍷
PROJECT 58 could be renamed The Clean Slate now. Congrats!
If you are thinking of sinking the washing machine into the floor remember ypu may have to drain the filter sometimes
Steps look great 😊 nice video 😊thank you
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Happy Birthday to Rob. Mine is on Wednesday.
51 !! you yoofs honestly - happy burfday Rob !!
I really like the stairs, feel like there is some good storage opportunity underneath
The big step at the stern would make a good place to put the inverter charger unless your gunna stick to your all in one systems.. i forgot to factor in the inverter charger space ended up loosing half my wardrobe. i wouldnt cut a hole for the washing machine so low down might sound awful on the spin cycle against the metal.. have a look into the fogstar batteries they are heated as standard meaning you can house them under the back deck gaining a little more space for storage under the steps.. great vid as usual 😁😁 keep up the hard work in this heat :)
It looks so much better with all that stuff got rid of!!😁
Is there a smaller more modern gauge cluster on the market?
With the foam all coming off in parts. Would it be worth fitting a vapour barrier over it? Treat it like normal insulation. Save you cost of replacing it.
Hey what I always do when I’m taking wiring a part and I need to remember is use my iPhone and take a photo. Lol just saying love your channel.! I’m OK.
could you not buy oak faced ply 3mm as quite cheap and then glue over the top of your upper walls.. thats what ive done on some of my boat... will then cover all the holes etc..
Could the top landing of the stern step be cut into (starboard) to allow the second step to be where you have headroom due to the open hatch?
Hi James. Love the steps idea. One question, have you tried the steps with bags in your hand? It would be awful if it was clumsy to enter with your hands full.
I forgot tell Rob Happy Birthday
James, you should have put the Wasching maschine under the steps but the whole thing further in the Back into the engine room so the first step would not be such a plattform..
thats a very simple instrument cluster you could mount it anywhere inside and get the revs and volts on a small digital gauge for out side
Happy birthday Rob ! Another year older but still none the wiser ( erm maybe !? Lol) x
@@IDKline ah yes he’s a legend at going in the cut and it’s icky waters ! X
When I watched y our mate trying to get out using the steps , I felt that the bannister should start 3/4s or half way of that upper step. because if you start it from the ( looking at it from inside the boat ) left corner of that top step , it will give you no room to manouver around it to get out , it would be a bit of a squeeze.
When the first two steps are angled your down movement is sooner to not bump your head.
The second step down gets more surface for more safety.
You could mount a mirror on the inside of the starboard door to see the instrument panel?
This is all starting to look like a fix to a problem that didn't exit until James started pulling everything off the walls.
Calorifier...idea...single cold water pipe system. At each tap have a 3kw mini water boiler with temperature control so can be hot or cold. No calorifier...more space.....less pipe joints to leak in the future. Just a thought. ..
I think you should think very carefully about steps on the side , it will make everything very awkward gettin in and out cupboard building will also be very awkward . In my experience straight down steps are the most practical. Also a dishwasher , is tgat really necessary it takes up space and power . Just a few thinks to mull over , having stayed on many boats . These are things we noticed .
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I sent via email a couple of picks and a layout grid may help. Can whip up a 3D rendering if you like .
Aft end Starboard side angle the forward corner inboard so second step goes further inboard. look at Robs feet and yours coming in and out.
Yeah it will be - and curved
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt agreed. flows better like that. but build it to suit yourself because you are using it.
Anyone here looking back at this video after James completed the boat, to see what his thought process was in 2023?
angle where the two steps join.. making a wider platform at the front of the corner step..
Ok, my guess was wrong, the metal box isn't for shore power so what is it and if it's needed, can it be lowered to add the needed waterproofed gauges and switches above it (fuse box inside)? ;-)
Ah, at 9:11, you said the metal box was a diesel heater header tank.
I've only recently started watching your channel and I just wondered why you refer to the boat as project 58? Is it the name of the boat or is the 58th you've gutted and rebuilt?
I think because it's 58ft long.
Think a rail will be needed for the kids to be safe but no you will think of that for them tc now the oldies 👍
Ps . I think just having the stairs going straight down is the better option. I think the curving of the stairs is too much and uses lots of space. I feel it would be safer for the younger children too. Obviously the choice is yours.
@@IDKline he was . I guess james will have the final word. Think carefully mr james !! Xx
Why don't you have a rechargeable screwdriver. It will make life but easier. Best regards Jim
I do but these screws are rusted in and need a bit of elbow
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Ducking your head with a filled bag in each arm is going to be a challenge.
I realize you've already renovated Sloe P, but HOW DID YOU ACQUIRE ALL OF THESE VERY PRACTICAL SKILLS, JAMES? School? Your parents? Previous jobs? Leigh
Certainly not from his parents, I’m ashamed to say!!
@@richardpos1 interesting response. I am constantly amazed by the breadth of his knowledge and practical talents.
So am I, mate!
@@richardpos1 did you grow up around him and his parents?
Worse than that … I’m the Dad!
It might help with the wiring Use your phone and take a picture..
Hi James the rear of my boat is frighteningly as your plan even down to the bilge inspection hatch it also encompasses an electric dryer lithium batteries storage and a really nice bannister. I’d love to send you some pics on day WhatsApp or any platform you use. The boat was built by a very good builder it actually won the Lionel Monk award at the AWA show, a bit more useful than the Crick award for pretty boat. Finally for ease of access your bottom step should be 2 not 1. Wishing you al the best with P58 and hoping to be able to give suggestions on design. Steve. NB Fiddlesticks 👍🖐
Hi James. My mate had his washing machine standing directly on the base plate. Was very noisy when doing a spin cycle!
Love your vlogs! Regards Chris
pretty easy to deaden the noise with some rubber matting underneath?
ever connected a 12v drill to a 12v battery?.... plenty of juice...
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I think you be basing your head all the time