Why Preceptor Seluvis BETRAYED Ranni in Elden Ring!
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I’m just sitting here, wondering how the hell Seluvis is going to control Ranni…when Ranni had already casted away her own flesh many years ago
Well, apart from that, Ranni already knows Seluvis' plan, so it won't even happen either.
@redbird1571 too bad he doesn't know she knows..... who set the puppets to kill Pidia though?
At least that kind of explains how she knows if you're trying to poison her for Seluvis.
@trufreedom that was probably Ranni's doing. There's no way she doesn't know, her whole character is based on subterfuge and intelligence.
@@trufreedomit could have been Ranni’s doing, but another popular theory is that the Cuckoo Knights Pidia was puppeteering overcame his will and turned against him because of their intense hatred; as he is an Albinauric, a Carian, and a mage, all of which the Cuckoo Knights were sworn to eliminate with great prejudice.
finding this guy dead at the end of rannis quest was the only good thing that cameout of that mess, RIP my boy Blaidd and Iji
you can just pick up the finger slayer blade and it kills selivus immediately
wait is lji died??
@newboy5115 not if you don't tell him about blaidd
You have to tell iji about blaidd but yes, he an heros himself
@@newboy5115 Iji does sadly die at the end of the Ranni quest line before you enter the Erdtree.
His corpse will be ensnared in black flame, and several Black Knife Assassin corpses can be found around him, just like they are with Blaidd.
The beauty of his death is the speculation and perspectives it leaves behind, making you question exactly what had happened. Did he die fighting these assailants? Was it a suicide attempt, since we know his helm protects himself from the influence of the Greater Will? He was also quite guilt-stricken, too, for what he did to Blaidd.
Many questions, each with plausible answers, but not entirely concrete.
I once found a message outside his door that read, "Behold Lord, But hole," and that is how I think of him to his day.
Well at least you can turn the Dung Eater into a puppet which he deserves
All will be eaten. All will be cursed. Then nobody will be cursed.
How?
@@DoppEff Give the potion to the Dung Eater when you see him sitting on the chair in the sewers of Leyndell instead of Nepheli.
Worth doing even for utility purposes on a later play though. He’s a pretty tanky summon.
He soloed Morgott with ease in my playythrough, if you wish to have even a modicum of challenge in your game do not use him
If you go into the hidden room in the ruins near Ranni's rise, you'll find a bed near his victims 💀
Ayo bro was wildin
Right next to a copy of sellen and right next to the nepheli puppet when you give her the potion
Of you follow through with Nepheli in this quest line you'll find her right beside said bed
I swear one of the weirdest and darkest Fromsoftware games moments 💀
what about Dung Eater lol
"Who is Preceptor Seluvis in Elden Ring?"
Me: A DINGUS
Me when i met him: you're a dick
Also me when he finishes his introduction: uhhh... Ok, i raise you to an asshole
WAY too nice a word for him, but the appropriate ones would get immediately taken down by RUclips
@@allhandsondik7803 exactly! Hence, "dingus"
He’s a doctor of pruppets which hang on strings called marinara.
A puppet botherer
So when you meet Therolina at the Radhan Festival it is actually seluvis.
That's what I was thinking, which is why she doesn't talk either.... maybe
Pretty much. Consider Blaidd also there to help you defeat Radhan.
I'm not 100% sure but if I remember correctly bliadd or someone else comments on that basically saying seluvis sent one of his puppets(therolina) because he was to afraid to fight or didn't want to risk dieing to radahn
You can also find Lionel's armour in Leyndell before Radahn, showing he gave his life essence to Fia (since her outfit is visible next to his body, and he later shows up as her champion).
The Lionel that helps you in Radahn's fight is likely summoned by Fia, since completing much of Ranni's questline is required to get Ranni's cursemark for Fia's ending.
@@amyelnah8717 I would like to give my essence to Fia too
And that is literally how you poke a dragon straight in the eye, marvel in your own brilliance and not even realize you died 5 minutes ago.
So THIS is the guy who made us maidenless
He stole my maiden, wtf! GET HIM!!
It's actually Godrick who kills our maiden, or at least heavily implies.
When you first enter the game, there's a dead maiden and large hole in the roof... Then you run into the Grafted Scion outside who attacks you. It's even told in game that he adds parts of the tarnished to himself.
@@edstockman5584huh I always thought that it was Varre who killed the maiden…
@edstockman5584 if it was Godrick then she would of been mutilated
@@ahumanbeing8371nah I don’t think he cared about the main character enough to do that, though he does mock you for it
"Say Blaidd and Ijii I love them" "also say seluvis to fuck off"
~Ranni
I'm just glad that seluvis dies in almost every single playthrough of Elden Ring regardless of whether the players notice or not. This brings me great joy
I gave the potion to Gideon and found seluvis dead in his tower lol.
@@DoppEff he dies once you give the fingerslayer blade to Ranni.
Why would ranni even need to drink anything. She’s a damn soul in a doll. So his plan would never work.
Seluvius may have a very high intelligence. But wisdom was clearly his dump stat.
@@thespanishinquisition4078ranni also knew his entire plan too so bro was kind of screwed either way lol
I don’t think he knows that- she doesn’t even tell the Tarnished until we find her doll form and speak to it. She reluctantly lets us in on the plan.
Seluvis is actually one of Pidia’s puppets and it was Pidia who wanted to Betray Ranni
Pidia is like the Jar jar binks of this quest line, if you know what I mean.
I'm sorry, Seluvis is a puppet?
@@redbirb1571just a wild speculation
@@Fayrinn_09 I do..... the real phantom menace is the puppet master.....
Who set the puppets to kill Pidia though?
Imagine if Therolina was actually supposed to be our Maiden but Seluvis got her before she could reach us.
i think the theory that the dead maiden we find at the start of the game was suposed to be our maiden murdered by Varre is a super cool hypothesis too
There is a dead maiden at the start?
@@DoppEff Yeah in the Chapel of Anticipation. Right in the opening room.
@@MasterKaiju doesn't she also have a message in front of her?
@@Howl4514Yeah the message says “Though the path be broken and uncertain, claim your place as Elden Lord!” Sounding pretty maiden like to me
I didnt speak to him again after talking to Ranni and the gang until after he died. I forgot who he was and just took his clothes 💀
I didn't even realize he had a full quest. When he asked me to roofie Nepheli I immediately ganked him because it was disgusting.
The funny thing is stabbing him right before ranni kills him blocks you from completing her quest until you revive him so she can kill him herself
Seluvis: "Please give this potion to Nepheli."
Me: "Sure, where is she?"
Seluvis: "Shut the fuck up."
It’s so frustrating how no one understands Ranni’s plan. She is going to take the Elden Ring far away, down the eternal cold night, and leave The Land’s Between free from any outer gods. The citizens will no longer have to worry about any gods seeking the Elden Ring, and thus they are back to being mortal and free. She also offers the Tarnished to follow her on this path of eternal suffering and self sacrifice, essentially saying she wants the company of her consort, and the Tarnished accepts.
The reason why everyone thinks she is just plunging the world into darkness is in part because of players misunderstanding her words and also in part because of mistranslation. Her original Japanese translation makes her plan clearer
But isn’t that a flawed plan? The god of the scarlet rot doesn’t care for the Elden ring all that much, but would become much more strong in the vacuum left by the ring being taken away, also, same with the frenzied flame. They would probably have a field day with no Elden ring holding them back.
@@smurtle7959then the question pops up. So would you rather have more god or lords taking control? The three fingers still required powers from the Elden ring to do its job. To use it as a conduit to fully burn the world down(from my understanding). Scarlet rot goddess loses its foothold if you do millicentd quest although temporarily I’m sure. But comes down to whether mortals should have free will or not. Marika reign was evil and genocidal and discriminatory towards many different beings. So comes down to the mortals to protect themselves and dictate their own future for better or for worse. Comparative to the other endings it’s the whole point of this game. Either continue this cycle for your own ambition to lord over people thinking you know best. Or break the cycle and journey far for as long as you can with ranni to give the people the best chance at maintaining their free will
I don’t care if you have a guts profile pic ur still simping 🫵
@@spongebobsquarepants9146 I actually don’t like Ranni very much. I just actually know what her ending means. Solaire is the only FromSoft character I’ll simp for, praise the sun \[T]/
@@guts60 oh okay good \[T]/
After which Seluvis fails before Ranni insults your breath and one shots you
Its also heavily implied hes molesting his puppets. Sir Gideon calls him a dolly botherer and you find Nepheli positioned by his bed in his weird puppet dungeon
Maybe it was because Seluvis turned Therolina into a puppet that our tarnished is maidenless?
Probably not, it's not certain but the maiden that wad near where we originally start the game was most likely meant for us, and Varre seems to know instantly that we, the player character, are maidenless, he probably had a hand in that, though again I don't have any solid proof, just a hunch so take it with a grain of salt.
Doesn't it look like she died by blood flame?
The same thing that varre uses@@VapidFart
@vapidfart oh its a very well known fan theory that Varre murdered our finger maiden in order to get us to join Mohg
it's pretty clear that varre is the one who murdered our maiden, as seen in the precipice of anticipation's starting room and the fact that varre wants us to join him.
Another option I heard is that Melina killed our maiden so she could take her place
I don't think bro was trying to control over the lands between though, I think he was just wilding if you know what I mean 💀💀
Those aren’t mutually exclusive. Imagine how many victims he could get for his harem if he controlled a literal goddess. Eipstein got nothing on him. >_>
Yeah, that's kinda the worst part, he had no grand design, he just wanted as many fuck puppets as he could get, and the more emotional harm he could inflict on others, the better.
Because of his actions, I have dubbed him In-Seluvis (Incel-uvis) and screw him over in every playthrough, giving his little concoction to Sir Gideon Ofnier.
I havent been so violently sick from a character in Souls since Pontiff. Just the thought of what he does to those puppets is enough to make me queezy, and how he preys on Nepheli at her lowest point. And its SO much worse that the most useful Scorpion talisman is locked to his quest, i actually have to interact with, and get praise from this sick bastard.
*laughs in Dung Eater*
Bro if a video game that doesn't even show you anything is making you that ill maybe you should check to see if you got food poisoning before blaming the game. That's not normal.
@@kulehulfer4385Oooo we got a badass ova here
@@kulehulfer4385bro what you’re talking about
@@kulehulfer4385 Being moved by a compelling story is normal, not the kind of mask you try to show the world here.
You forgot to mention how he was under Rannis service to help put her soul i to a puppet bpdy and hide her into thw miniature Ranni. He is an obviously despicable person but was necessary. And on top of that his death pose is very puppetlike, which could mean he was a puppet himself
Maybe Seluvis was a good guy at one point who was trusted by Ranni, but Pidia weaseled his way into taking seluvis as a puppet and using him to conduct his grand scheme. Maybe Seluvis reached a low point similar to nepheli and decided he no longer wanted to live his own life
There is a bed in seluvs’s puppet room…
Let that sink in
He's someone with a really big hat!
Seluvis AKA Bill Cosby
I kinda forgot he was like a body snatching evil dude. I remember meeting him and he was a huge prick to me, I begrudgingly did his quest despite him being a prick. Then just never thought about him again. I didn’t even realize that was him when I found his body and clothes lol
Right? I sort of forgot about him. When I remembered, I came back and he was already dead. I was like, "darn, I guess I failed?"
Damn… what if Therolina was supposed to be our finger maiden but she was caught by Seluvis before she met us. 🤯
it's that or our maiden is the corpse in the chapel of anticipation
Yeah those 2 are most likely.
Either seluvis controlling therolina.
Or the other one which is possibly more interesting. The theory goes that varre killed our maiden (Chapel of anticipation).
In order to manipulate us due to us being maidenless, cus its kinda odd that the moment you leave the graveyard you see varre waiting
My money is on the varre one
Seluvis has always been a victim of Pidia and was doomed to the fate of becoming a puppet from the beginning.
Seluvis was a puppet before you ever meet him, as Pidia is alarmed and recognizes you the "first" time you meet him.
Also the Puppet Room has a glowing sign marked "Seluvis Puppet" and "Do Not Touch". In addition to the fact that Seluvis adopts the uncontrolled Puppet pose when he dies.
Then why did pidas puppets turn on him?
@@kyle857
I don't think we ever get an outright explanation for why that happened.
Seluvis is already slumped before Pidia is ever attacked, and the puppets attack Pidia after Ranni claims the Fingerslayer Blade.
There are hints that Ranni has always been aware of the betrayal by "Seluvis" and is disappointed when you join his scheme.
For whatever reason, Ranni's departure always causes the puppets to attack Pidia, which gives the implication that Ranni is responsible for severing Pidia's control over the puppets.
Who's pidia?
@@HMOD-hs3wu
Pidia is the Albinaric* servant of the Carian Royal Family.
He can be found at Carian Manor on the second floor above the area that looks like a church sanctuary. You can get there by the cliff near Seluvis's Tower.
He surrounds himself with puppets and "conveniently" sells the map to the Amber Starlight for Seluvis's quest.
@@Battleguild ohh I've seen but never paid him any mind didn't think he would have such backstory
I remember being so shook the only time I fully completed this quest trying to give ranni the amber drought and she just says “you thought” and then just reads you for filth. And you can’t can’t even try to apologize or she’ll instakill you
If you go to the church of vow and use the dew you can continue her quest line
Seluvis didn't develop the potion, it's a traditional potion of the Eternal Cities and has been used long before Seluvis. Piddia also used the Starlight potions to make Puppets.
Giving the potion to Nepheri Lou is beyond evil !
Somebody give me the magic scorpion charm I cant keep this guy alive longer than 5 minutes
I just love how you find Seluvis slumped over in a Fallout 3 death animation. Lmfao.
Turned what was supposed to be a light workout into one that made me nearly fall over by the end,incredibly motivating!
Man I love Elden Ring.
That's honestly sinister.
I always knew there was a justification for my hatred of this guy
Seluvis wanted to turn Ranni's puppet into a puppet by supplanting her consciousness, which she can move at will and by a method none but her know. Good luck, sport.
It’s not even Seluvis doing it, it’s all pidia. Seluvis might have been a trusted ally at some point but was tricked into becoming a puppet and was used as a tool to allow pidia to enact his dark fantasies
A lot of yall missing that Seluvis is in the same pose as the people being used as puppets when he "dies". And the only person who dies at that stage in the quest is Pitia.
Of note: The real Selivus was probably the first victim of the real puppet master, who’s hiding away in the hidden room of caria manor.
He’s probably just Rping as Selivus out of his strange inclination to “love” his puppets.
I think Selivus is the best voiced character in the game. The actor 1000% nailed the "academic asshole" type.
Worst? If you give nepheli the potion, in a hidden room by his hidden lab, he had a bed, with a sellen puppet, and you’ll find poor nepheli right next to the bed. We all know what he was doing. Not AS bad but bad for US is that making nepheli drink the potion only gets her as a puppet for us to use in battle. If we finish her questline fully we get not one, but access to TWO ANCIENT DRAGON SMITHING STONES. She gives you one for free, and her quest completion has gostoc sell one for 20000 runes.
I have one word to describe Selluvis, "Creep"
He sounds like an anime villian and professor snape had a child
By the way, that little hideaway in the Carian Manor is both Seluvis and Sellen's creepy sex dungeon. Yes, both of them.
Source: The Preceptor's Secret.
ironic. he tried -like his mistress- to rebel against these higher than him.
his robe looks good with the greathood
This doesn’t really say anything as to “why” Seluvis tried to betray Ranni. 🤷♂️
Gotta love Blaidd doing the best thing for Seluvis off screen while you're doing Ranni's quest in the underground city
seluvis dies right after you give ranni the knife thing
@Ginglover9000 Yeah, there's a message from Blaidd that he had a traitor to deal with so he leaves the Underground city to your Tarnished. Seluvis doesn't just die of a heart attack lmao
Puppet master is only a Puppet himself of pidia in the upper level of manor who controls the soldier's on the manor grounds.
Is there more to this lore? Like how and why he dies and it’s always in a wierd position
We all speculate he was a puppet controlled by Pidia.
@@LordTyrone1989who even is Pidia
@@ulysses5340 The albinauric on top of Carian manor. You have to complete Carian manor and drop on top of it. He dies once Ranni kills seluvis, so some people speculate Pidia was the one behind everything. I only found Pidia on my seventh playthrough 😅
Ranni knew about the plan to turn her into a puppet. Once you give the fingerslayer Blade to Ranni and she's ready to leave her tower, she kills seluvis. That's why you can't progress Ranni's quest If you wanna do Seluvis', because Ranni always kills him before leaving.
@@scalu730 ohh that guy. I almost forgot about him. Thanks for cleaning that out friend.
They don't know what Ranni did, so they think she is just using some kind of magic to wandering around in a doll body.
Except that Seluvis himself is a puppet. The evidence for that is that, when he dies, he sits there in a deactivated puppet pose, rather than lying there like a dead body.
It's actually a mystery, Iji dies in the same position and I highly doubt that he's a puppet, so we can't really know for Seluvis either.
I always thought that was because Ranni wanted to give him a taste of his own medicine, literally
That man hooked me up with dung eater ash of war
Except for how Seluvis was actually Pidia the albenauric merchant above the church bonfire and Seluvis was never real at all.
I shudder to imagine a world where his quest can actually be successful
and then, We tricked his ass and now he's dead.
For the same reason Ranni betrayed fingers when she learned that she is next in line to be queen - just because. In Japan, reason for conflict such as "he trusted me too much", or "there is only one conflict, need more" are perfectly fine.
There's actually a theory that Seluvis is a puppet being controlled by the guy in the castle
I love how everyone in the elden ring community hates the guy lol
Seluvis is a puppet himself, you see it when he dies during the Ranni Questline. His dead body has the same pose as all of his puppets. The real puppetmaster is Pidia.
It gets deeper when you realize Seluvis is also a puppet
Weird grapist magician trying to rope you into his plans
This has me wondering if Radagon did this to Renalla. His mask's mouth looks like the cross-hatching often see behind Radagon, and his spirit-stealing juice is amber, like her egg
Seluvis is a puppet himself: the real puppet master is Pidia who is hiding in Caria’s manor; this is why they die at the same time at the end of seluvis questline
Ps he knows Radagon darkest secrets🤫
Ahh yes, the Preceptor Seluvis, Elden Ring's Bill Cosby.
Tim is in excellent form this episode
I almost saw porch lights
Would’ve been cool to have the betrayal actually succeed, and get like a dark-moon casting ranni or something,
Interestingly, the fact that Seluvis even tries this is evidence to the fact that he's already a puppet of Pidia. The real Seluvis, who has been by her side since before the Night of Black Knives, is probably not above trying, but he WOULD know that it wouldn't work because she doesn't have a body.
Seluvis is the reason you never meet your intended maiden
Glorious serendipity
Notice that Seluvis' death pose is the same as the puppets. I personally think that Seluvis is Pidia's puppet. And Pidia's puppets overthrowing him would most likely be Ranni's doing.
It was crazy seeing all of Ranni's "friends" deal with black knife assasins, Seluvis was clearly the weakest since there were no corpses around, Iji had killed multiple but there were probably more than he could handle.
Blaidd killed the most and was still contemplating life.
I wonder if the finger maiden was the players...
@@erikreber3695 our finger maiden been killed by Varre, or so I think because he just right where we start
the guy just turned up dead after i gave gideon his poison now i cant find ranni anywhere
She is going to the next part of her quest line
yeah you should be able to enter the Third Tower now Renna's Rise, and go through the teleporter to Nokstella
My guy, from all people he should have known better than trying to control a soul with a magic potion.
The pattern on his clothes looks like a solar system
By design
He died like the dog he is when he asked me to betray my waifu.
The NTR protagonist was born to fail ... until the doujinshi release.
Nah Ranni was able to make a perfect copy of her mother, magic spells and all. Seluvis would’ve gotten dog rolled
Can we talk about how seluvis is actually a pupper used by pidia
There’s actually a second layer to this; Seluvis is also a puppet, and he’s being controlled by the Albinauric servant Pidia.
Selivus is the jerk that gets you the magic scorpion charm lol
"Who is preceptor Seluvis in Elden Ring?"
An A-Hole and a Creep. Next question
Bro if he just trotted his goofy as to ALMOST ANY other Demigod they would be either to dumb to realize what it was or would want to help and be powerful enough to help him give it to ranni, melenia, or most likely miquelea
Oh shit, he gave me a potion for Nepheli. I thought it was maybe medicine. I am not giving her that shit.
lmao
Seluvis also manage to make LMSH his puppet
could it be? bro puppeted our supposed finger maiden?
Man came out straight outta NTR stories
Holy crap this is legitimately one of the best YTPs I’ve ever seen! PHENOMENAL EDITING!!! Some funny jokes, and a surprisingly well-written story. I’d love to see more of these YTPs from you.
Geez, what a “nice” fellow, this Pidia dude.
Seluvis was almost certainly under Pidea's control, who I bet is either under Miquella's control or a willing ally.
Selivus is actually a puppet of Pidia. The real puppet master
Ranni ghosted me after the wedding
He almost saved the world from the Dark Witch. Don’t worry selivus I will ensure she never takes control
Seluvis is what everyone though Mogh was for years and years before the DLC
I believe selivus is one of pidias puppets that he used sort of like an avatar of himself thats why he was found in the same inanimate state as the other puppets found in the game