Cryorig CR-M2A Frostbit M2 Heatsink on WD Black SN850 on Gigabyte TRX40 Designare
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Answering Subscribers Questions, this M.2 NVMe Heatsink as requested by Bel Campo is Heatsink #13! The Cryorig CR-M2A Frostbit M2 Heatsink Tested on WD Black SN850 mounted on TRX40 Designare in 2nd position M.2 Connector to the CPU.
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You've got some of the best ssd info videos I have seen. All you need now are some RGB lights in the background and you will reduce heat by at least 10 degrees on your ssd.
Hi MilSimp 86,
Welcome! Thank You! We're all about Function over Form! Appreciate Your Comments!
If you look closely to their information on the second heatpipe, you can see a second blue/yellow line that is very thin and drawn under the big heatpipe. The second heatpipe is located flat in the aluminium part that sits direct on top of the M2 nvme ssd. At the 7:13min mark in the video you can see the second heatpipe that is flat and silver colored.
Great video, loved all the tests of the m.2 heatsinks, hope in time maybe Noctua, Thermalright or Scythe can release some to compete with this no name heatsinks.
As we go up to 7GB/7GB speeds, it was the little guys that jumped out with the coolers we needed. As for Board manufacturers, it was Gigabyte's all copper finned cooler that was ready for GEN4 second GEN 7GB/7GB drives. Gigabyte dropped the copper for a skinny Al heat sink that fits the PS5. I still think the GIGABYTE COPPER block is the best looking heat sink. :)
Hi Pabula,
Thank You very much! Appreciate Your Comments! I hope You are right! We've been looking over 4 Gigabyte Workstation products in the Video for tomorrow. No M.2 NVMe Heatsinks! They do however have Motherboard Thermistors for the M.2 NVMe PCIe Drives! And that's new to me! Noctua tested diamonds on a Cooler about 7 or 8 years ago. Nothing since then! A most enlightening experience Testing M.2 NVMe Heatsinks! Fascinating Results! Thanks for Watching!
Great review Gill, many thanks for this. Well,, after seeing this test and all the others, several things come to my mind.
First, generally heatpipes seem the way to go, and the more the better.
Second, the Frostbit did do ok, but it is not stellar either. I would have loved to see closer to Acidalie level of performance as an offset to the spatial disadvantages of the Frostbit, but alas. To be fair, MB does seem more tough to cool.
Third, pedigree is not everything. Cryorig is not a kid in cooling space, it has a big reputation. Though the Frostbit is a decent performer, I expected a bit better from them.
Fourth, user reviews on retail sites are garbage. Totally untrustworthy no matter the amoutn of stars they have. Sites like Anandtech and RUclipsrs like you are the only trustworthy references.
So thanks again, and I am sure will send you some more coffee sometime. Keep up the good work !
Hi Bel Campo,
Thank You for requesting and making this Test possible! Agreed with all of that. Most enlightening Results! I enjoy doing the 4 Step process so everyone can see what's involved. And this one was the most involved yet! Appreciate Your Support! I'm Honored!
Just to add an other variable. DRIFTIce 13W/mK Thermal Pads.
I use them on 970 Evo Plus 1Tb drives.
This product is awesome!
If you ever do a video testing the results of different high performance thermal pads, I highly recommend giving this brand a try.
Keep 'em Coming Gil !
Hi PersonalDroneRepair,
Outstanding! We'll place that one on the List! That makes 3 Thermal Pads to Test! We're all about Answering Subscribers Questions! Appreciate Your Support! Stay Tuned!
Gill... if I have been taught correctly, there is another engineering heat transference condition where.. Thermal compound is used, and that is Dissimilar Metals, like aluminum to copper,... I hope I remember that piece of information correctly. In many instances, in electrical and plumbing... When two dissimilar metals are in contact with each other, A isolating compound of some requirement is needed, To combat electrolysis in other industries, more importantly Gil.. This design looks a little goofy... In this respect, that heat pipe above that swings, has a lot of height.. And heating up that copper heat pipe to the point where it conducts to the fins, would take a lot of heat, and hopefully the actual M.2 drive would never get so hot, that not only does the metal plates on top of the drive have enough thermal energy to send up the heat pipes, it just seems potentially gimmicky, how about removing that 2nd heat pipe assembly, and put back the bracket with the 4 screws, "for potential conductive thermal mass", ... And see what the numbers are...??? I'm not totally convinced that any serious amount of heat, is going up those copper pipes, do you have a infrared temperature gun ??? you could point it at the copper heat pipes and see if there's any change in heat... I know this is extra effort, but I'm curious about the real necessity for that heat pipe assembly on this particular product. It may be somewhat of a gimmick
Hi LonnDawg,
Yes, absolutely! That's why water heaters need Dielectric Unions. I think You have it, gimmicky. One Heatpipe. A Subscriber Asked. We deliver! We have a Flir Camera for taking Emissivity Readings but not a Heat Gun. Great idea! The Flir Camera requires the Testing surface to be in the same plane, parallel to each other. This one is more fiction than science. More Form than Function. Great observation! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching! As always, Fascinating Results!
I love this Frostbit m.2 cooler. I bought a couple of them, because they were short in stock. And I'm glad I did that, because nowadays they're hard to buy in my country.
I'm currently using 3 of them in my AMD build. I'd recommend swapping out the included thermal pads for 15W Gelid Ultimate pads. I'm using 2mm thickness ones. You can use 3mm thick if you want. A good thermal pad can make a couple C difference.
Hi hndfhng Tool-Assisted Speedruns (TAS),
Welcome! We've Tested 14 M.2 NVMe Heatsinks and 3 Thermal Pads by Subscribers Requests. Of those, We have 2 other M.2 Heatsinks that Performed better than this. And all were Tested in a Stock, Default Configuration with the only modifications being what We used in the Box. Those are comparatively thick Thermal Pads! You should be getting excellent Thermal Conductivity and Compression! Thanks for Sharing! This might help someone else!
Thanks Gill. See the stuff, see it put together and see the test results in different locations on the mobo. I can't get that anywhere else. You show us the latest tested on a HEDT and almost no one else does that either. It's not will enthusiast adopt more cpu lanes/ram channels/cpu cores, but when will they demand it.
Hi Max Hughes,
Thank You very much! Details matter! Well stated. You are so right about that! All about the PCIe Resources. So many Viewers are trying to do something their Motherboard cannot, due to lack of PCIe Resources. All goes to that What, Why and How. Make it Work and Keep it Simple! This was a good example of Space Relations as well as Heatsink Results.
I would personally do testing using Samsung drives, rather than one sensor, basic SSD temperature showing drives, because they actually let you also know the controller temperature in HWinfo, which usually is way higher since the controller does all the work, and to me personally, it matters more than the memory chip or whatever normal temperatures other, basic drive sensors tell you. I understand you dont actually measure the temperatures using sensors of your own from the surfaces of the chips, am I right? If this is the case, Samsung drives would let you know more, showing this controller temperature as well. You could just use the same Samsung drive and switch the heatsink for it. More accurate results. Im afraid some drive manufacturers dont want you to know the actual controller temperatures under load, to be honest. Samsung might be one of the only ones sharing this information. Looking at drives youve usen in your testing, only Samsung drives showed the controller temperature, also. I might be wrong tho.
Hi Administrator,
Great idea! We went with the hottest Drive, the WD Black SN850. Correct. Even to do an emissivity reading, We have to get the M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive up into the same plane as the Flir Camera. And even then, We need a flat surface for the black tape. Yes, We can get an over all reading but not a chip by chip reading. Any pinpoint reading would be momentary and not continuous even with a heat gun as some have suggested. We even tried an external Thermistor to no avail. Slow to respond. Reading the Temps from the M.2 Drive appear to be the most accurate that We have access to.
great looking heatsink at the least
Hi Ray,
Welcome. Just now seeing Your comment. We tested other M.2 Heatsinks that yielded better results. Which one did you choose?
Good video my man......You have a great teaching voice, keeps the listeners attention.
Hi Little Busta,
Welcome! Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments! Here to help! Knowledge should be Shared!
These M.2 heatsinks can go both ways! I got a cheap aluminum heatsink off Amazon mainly because it matched the matte silver heatsinks on my motherboard and my nvme ends up upside down due to which way the port is facing. I just wanted to cover it up, OCD. My temps ended up 5c hotter! I am guessing it is due to the garbage thermal pads that they tend to include with these things. It was as if it was holding more heat in than dissipating it. I did end up getting a cooler that performs insanely well! I have the Mushkin Redline Vortex Gen 4 x4 NVME which runs HOT and does not come with a heatsink really, just a copper shim sticker with "nano carbon graphene" lmao. Whatever it is it don't do shit because the thing runs up to 71c and the max operating temp is 70c. I put a similar cooler to this on it, the Icy Box M.2 cooler which is the sickest cooler I have ever seen. It has a nice sized heatsink w/ a 30mm 4pin pwm fan attached to a swiveling copper heat pipe so you can adjust its position like this one. Dropped my temps a whopping 19c I shit you not! Keep in mind though, I did NOT use the included thermal pads as they looked like the same exact ones I got with the last heatsink (garbage). I used Cooler Masters new 13.3wmk purple pads and they are awesome! I went with 0.5mm because my SSD is double sided and the thinner the pad the better.
Hi Kyle,
Welcome! Interesting! ICY Dock M.2 Heatsink, Active Cooling. We'll keep that I'm mind for a future M.2 NVMe Heatsink Video! Good idea swapping out the Stock Thermal Pad! Thanks for Sharing!
Keep it up Gill!
Hi Zain Fadhil,
Thank You very Much! Appreciate Your Comments and Support! Stay Tuned!
Awesome test and explanation!
Hi DoplerE,
Welcome! Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments! We have 2 more Heatsinks now to Test. Bringing the Total to 14 Heatsinks! Stay Tuned!
@@BuildOrBuy Awesome !
Hi@@doplere6364,
Every one of these Heatsink Tests are absolutely fascinating! Never know what to expect!
bought this heatpipe for my Sn850 2TB ssd just because of this video. it was 20-25€ or something like that in my currency, assembled it using this video and it went pretty well, i’m really tight on space but looks like that as long as i keep the heat pipe perfectly straight i have 2-3 mm before i reach my video card and more than 3mm till i reach my AIO rubber pipes. my sn850 usually stayed at 45 degrees C on idle and the highest temperature ever recorded on it without heatpipe was 59 degrees C (i still don’t have too many files on my pc, it’s a new build and i will use the sn850 for video exporting or some VST for music production). after copying 3 different folders with some files (a total of 51 gb) from my samsung 870 evo, the max temperature with the heatpipe was 39 degrees C and the idling temperature for the ssd is 34-37 degrees C in a room with 23-24 degrees C at 40-50 cm from a heater (which is not that hot, but i will test again this winter when the outside temps will be below 0 degrees C to see how much will affect the temperatures when the heater is on and tries to maintain the room temperature to 23-24 degrees C). i totally recommend this heatpipe, maybe the thermal pad which is under the SSD will be good for a ssd which has some chips on the underside of the board but still i can’t believe how cool my sn850 runs now with this 25€ heatpipe. also i think i did the best deal because i bought it with 0 hours of functioning and without the original heatsink from someone on the internet with aproximatively 290€ or 337 us dollars which is insanely cheap
Hi sketchmoon,
Welcome! Thanks for Sharing! Glad We could help! Do You have PCIe 4.0 on Your Motherboard M.2 Connector? That affects Speed which therefore affects Heat. The faster We go, the Hotter We get. Success on Your Installation!
@@BuildOrBuy yes i do. i’ve build my PC around an old soundcard (E-MU 1820 non M) which uses a PCI slot (the old one, non express, which is a pain in the ass) so i had to buy a Gigabyte B560M D3H motherboard which has 1 pci-e 4.0 m.2 slot and a pci-e 3.0 slot. the 4.0 is used by the sn850 and the second one for windows and other programs, the pci-e 3.0 is used by a Hikvision e1000 nvme 1tb ssd. the motherboard is m-atx if i can remember correctly but the case is a middle tower or something like that with good airflow and with a push-pull cooler configuration (it’s an AIO). it’s kinda cramped inside because of the motherboard which is small, i mean whatever, m-atx :))) but everything is really a tight fit. again, thank you for these kind of videos, the price diference between a normal heatsink and this heatpipe was to small and the temperature difference was too much to skip it and buy some cheap crap. considering that the hikvision ssd is covered under the video card i guess i won’t buy any heatsinks anytime soon for it but as far as i can tell, the hikvision one without the heatsink is 3-4 degrees C cooler than the sn850 with the heatpipes. of course sometimes it runs 1-2 degrees hotter when used but it cools down rapidly anyway.. the sn850 with the heatpipe is more consistent with the temperatures. since yesterday i powered up the computer and let it on for 3-4 hours (36 degrees C on idle for the sn 850) and exported some small videos but the temperature stayed under 40 degrees C
Hi@@sketchmoon3333,
E-MU 1820, reminds me of the Turtle Beach Monterey with an EMU Chip. Ground breaking and expensive! I had forgotten about those with the Audio Drive Bay Device. Drivers still work? Amazing! One day, that too You will want to Upgrade. A Lots of great Gear has come and gone. Remember Aardvark Direct Pro 24/96? Another ground breaking Audio interface in Windows 98.
Now look at what We can do with USB or Thunderbolt for Audio.
Glad We could be of help! Evan Heatsinks matter when You need one! And We all need them! The faster We go, the hotter things can get! Cooling runnings! Thanks for Sharing! Appreciate Your Comments!
@@BuildOrBuy unfortunately i’m just a 24 yo guy so i can’t “remember” the Aardvark because i never had one :( the E-MU was bought by my dad in 2005/2006 and used with a fresh mediocre pentium 4 PC for his work (nothing sensational, mostly vocal recording). Regarding the drivers.. yeaah, i had to dump my BA in classical piano and become an IT type of guy.. with the help of the forums i was able to do some work using windows safe mode and windows power shell + some modified drivers from an E-MU 1010 if i remember correctly? which is the last e-mu with similar drivers for windows 10. coupled with some beta driver for the 1820 i managed to make it work on the latest windows 10 build with no issues so far. every input/output works fine, no latency and the sound is so damn crisp, unlike the focusrite 2i4 2nd gen i have and used on my laptop… unfortunately the reason i wanted to use the E-MU is because i’m pretty sure no one from my country will ever understand the build quality of the soundcard and won’t try to learn to use the mixer app.. and the most important “issue” remains the legacy PCI slot.. most people don’t even know about the differences and don’t have the proper motherboards that support the PCI slot.. that, and the fact that if i want something like the E-MU 1820 i kinda have to buy a 1000$ soundcard.. and that was out of question because the E-MU was retired for like 6-7 years and was sitting on my desk doing nothing. i still have the studio monitors my dad bought and coupled the E-MU which are ESI nEar05 classic. they are good, not as bright as yamaha HS5 but not as punchy in the lows as Genelec. something in between but still needs a subwoofer + acoustical treatment of the room. i really think i’ve made the right choice since i also have lots of midi interfaces which i’m to lazy to connect and disconnect, and when i’m using a powered usb hub and connect 2 keyboards (yamaha genos, korg kronos) and a midi controller + soundcard and use them at the same time, i think the usb controller from the laptop doesn’t like that and just crashes and resets all the usb devices and it was annoyng as hell. now, with the PC, i can connect 3 powered keyboards, 2 with usb 1 with midi into the soundcard, 1 midi keyboard, mouse+ keyboard, usb stick, external hard drives (2-3) and still have no issues with them.
considering all of these, i think this was the best solution and honestly as long as i don’t have issues with the drivers (i will download a specific windows 10 version just in case) i will try and use it because it’s pointless to sell it or to let it collect dust.
thank you for all of your replies, just wanted to tell you that i’ve also subscribed and i will watch some other videos too. maybe it’ll help me in the future for my needs
Hi@@sketchmoon3333,
Got it! You're Dad made smart choices! I'm honored! Sound should be felt and not just heard! Cerwin Vegas! We currently use Mackie Studio Monitors! They fit the space! Ensoniq EPS16 Turbo Plus! It was amazing! Using a Focusrite 2i4 2nd Gen. That draws power through the USB. Bad Design idea! Power should always be separate! And Yes, too many USB Devices for a Laptop. Plus the Windows Driver Model changed. That was a main reason for a 2nd Gen and now 3rd Gen Hardware for Focusrite. Eventually, You'll have to change Your Audio interface. Expect the Driver model in Windows 11 to also have changed again. What are You using for Your DAW software? Fruity Loops? What Libraries? You may eventually have to install the ASIO4ALL ASIO driver. We had that with Focusrite 1st Gen Hardware. We did not have or notice the Latency problem many Users have had with Focusrite. Driver model changed, Found out when using newer IK Multimedia Libraries. Hassle! We should have made a Video about that! We need to do a a Video on DPC Latency too! Thanks for Sharing!
I suspect the instructions for thermal compound application left additional cooling performance on the table, A more liberal application of thermal compound across the length of heatpipe could remove a few degrees. There could even be some optimization over which end of the SSD the crimped part of the heatpipe sits over but that might only matter for an incredibly hot controller.
Hi Anonymous. A,
All according to Manufacturers Instructions. Change one thing can change everything. A lot of work just to assemble a Heatsink. The Acidalie beats this one easy. Thanks for Watching!
@@BuildOrBuy Hi new to your channel. I plan on buying Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe M.2 2280SS SSD CT2000P5PSSD8 for my Dell 8910 XPS desktop. My question is will the ACIDALIE M.2 2280 SSD Heatsink work with the Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe M.2 2280SS SSD that I plan on buying? Please let me know, thanks.
HI@@JustSayNoToCommieKamala,
Welcome! From what I can see, looks like it will fit. Yes physically it will work with Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe, PCIe 4.0 of 6,600MBps. Crucial indicates an operating temperature of 70 degrees Celsius. I was concerned about the overhead spacing in the Dell 8910 XPS. Good clearance overhead. No obstructions. And side to side spacing is good. You will be pleased with the Results! Success on Your Installation!
@@BuildOrBuy Thanks, I look forward to more of your videos, really good stuff.
HI@@JustSayNoToCommieKamala,
Absolutely! Appreciate Your Comments! Been doing Research and Filming!
Thank you!
Hi Brian Remmerde,
Welcome! Appreciate Your Comment! Thanks for Watching!
That "something that's pressed into there" is the SECOND HEAT PIPE
"1 pipe or 2, however you want to define it" well, since there are 2, i'd define it as 2.
Hi Victor Lowe,
Welcome! Keep in mind Our reference point is the Acidalie. Hope that helps!
Hi@@victorlowe,
Left and Right. To reiterate, in comparison to the Acidalie as Our reference point. If that were true then the Acidalie would have four.
What matters most are Results. The JEYI Finscold iGlacier8 and Acidalie are on par with each other and superior to this M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Heatsink.
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2. Acidalie
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You guys need to apply 'thermal paste' between the heat-sink and heat-pipe as there's too much room.
Hi 이건,
Welcome! We did! According to the Manufacturers Instructions. Thanks for Watching!
@@BuildOrBuy I have ordered two kinds of heat-sinks after watching your video.
(JEYI Q150 & ACIDALIE)
Thank you very much for your great review and benchmarks.
Hi@@user-gz1be1pz6c,
Outstanding! Appreciate Your Comments! Let Us know which You prefer. To improve Thermal Conductivity Results of either, swap out those Thermal Pads! Keep Us Posted on Your Progress! Success on Your installation!
I'll stick with 40 degrees on the corsair water block. I use open loop cpu block water coolers and adding an M.2 block to that loop on the WRX80E should be easy. I can't wait for Gill's test results on his QUAD AIC. I've got three of the Asus Hyper GEN4 AIC. I'll test Thermalright Thermal Pad 12.8 W/mK, 85x45x1mm on two of Asus DIMM2 dual M.2 Cards with Al heat sinks. Sorry, every thing takes me forever because I can only buy stuff one at a time over several months.
Hi Max Hughes,
That's the place to do some serious Testing! How far along are You on Your WRX80 Build? On the TRX40, We can show the Quad AIC while out of AMD RAID with SMART Drive Telemetry. Now if We could get a Water Block for a Quad AIC, that would be wicked to Test! We have another Dual M.2 NVMe Adapter to Test. We'll swing back around and verify the Quad very soon! This one has a Heatsink on the AIC! Stay tuned! Let Us know Your Results please!
@@BuildOrBuy I've got everything but the $$$$ CPU. Four GEN4 5000 drives for storage, a Radeon VII and eight 16GB 14 14 14 34 sticks of ram from my X399 build are good enough.
Hi@@maxhughes5687,
You have a GPU! Outstanding! Cannibalize an x399. Good point! I'm glad You mentioned the RAM. Interesting to note the Threadripper Pro CPU chiplets regarding addressing 8 Channel RAM.
From Subscriber RickyBobby BobbyRicky,
AMD CCD = Core Chiplet Die - Threadripper Pro Chiplets - Memory Bandwidth
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1. 3945wx & 3955wx on 2 CCD's connected to the I/O Die.
2. 3975wx on 4 CCD's connected to the I/O Die.
3. 3995wx on 8 CCD's connected to the I/O Die.
I have read that but had not studied that until He pointed that feature out. Interesting! I cannot find that Detail anywhere else. The 3975wx was my recommendation until reading this Data! Glad I have waited! You too!
To reiterate, if We want 8 Channel RAM, We have to use the 3995wx. If true, I'm going to ask if possible during the next AMD Event about this for verification! This is a big deal! Stay Tuned!
@@BuildOrBuy ??? With no test and no info this guy said TR PRO's with two CCDs must be only quad channel ram because some Epyc cpus with two CCDs are only quad channel. How about, if two CCDs on a 5950X have only 24 cpu lanes then a TR PRO with only two CCDs must be only 24 cpu lanes. That is one bogus smoke screen. I hope to hear from you on this one!
@@BuildOrBuy IDK but I think one 7ZIP encode decode test run would answer this. 8000 dual channel score and 16000 quad channel test score is a published results. Eight channel ram should test at 32000. So AMD is truthful on their published specks on the cheapest slowest Epyc cpus, but are not telling the truth about TR PRO cpus?
At this point I don't know what to expect from these tests. This one did better than I expected and worse than I hoped. Beat the motherboard heaysink at least. Makes me wonder if that mother board has a really, really good design on the included heaysink or if most of the designs for 3rd party heat sinks are just garbage. If it's the former, then having to replace the heatsink is a hidden cost of many motherboards.
Hi N A,
Very good point. Same here! Seems to be the latter. Appears not enough Testing went into most of these designs. More like an untested idea instead of proven Results. And We're not doing anything special either. All pretty straight forward. Interesting to note: Seems Workstation Motherboards do not include Heatsinks. And that is most curious knowing what We now know about M.2 NVMe Drives and M.2 Heatsinks. Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!
Did you put thermal paste also on the top block? Also, I believe the second heatpite is the flat one toching the ssd directly - so one on the top, and one flat one on the bottom - thus dual heatpipe. Finally I think you could mount 2 of these on a pcie card however it will still require some space between the mount on the motherboard and the GPU - but some motherboards would surely accomodate such a solution.
Hello mateuszkwietowicz2470,
Welcome! Sometimes We have tunnel vision and lose perspective. This was not a top performer. We have two other M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive Heatsinks that performed much better. And We have Videos on those, Acidalie and JEYI Finscold iGlacier8! Hope that helps!
I have a MSI B550 Tomahawk mobo with its own heat sinks. But my 970 EVO plus died last week and with the heat sinks installed i was getting high temps. becasue i need a new drive im now looking at after market M.2 heat sinks in hope to extend the life plus i want a PCIe4 drive and not 3. really helpfull clip.
Hi James Nicol,
Welcome! That's odd. What were Your Temps? What about Your M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Drive Firmware? So far We've Tested 16 M.2 NVMe PCIe Heatsinks. Our 2 best Performers are Acidalie and JEYI. If You have the overhead space like the one in this Video, they too require same space.
1. Acidalie M.2 2280 SSD Heatsink, Double - Aluminum Heat Sink for PCIE M.2 NVME SSD
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2. JEYI M.2 HeatSink, Heavy Duty Aluminum Convective Heat Sink, Passive Heat Sinks with Fins, FinsCold iGlacier8 (35℃ Decrease Max)
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Pleas publish the final test results in terms of cooling effectiveness.
Hi mrgcav,
Absolutely! Our next Premiere today is the most current Heatsink Results even though this Video is about the ASUS Hyper M.2 x16 Quad Card Heat and Speed Test. Stay Tuned!
Thanks for the info, personally I dont have a pc so only interested in ps5 heatsinks . I know the firecuda is going to be hard for you to get a hold of to test as for price ( if your in Australia i can send you mine to test ) but im wondering if you have any plans for temp tests on the new sabrent heatsink that covers the entire bay? Keep up the good work
Hi Jerrys Berrys,
Welcome! Absolutely! Appreciate the Offer, USA! Are You talking about this one?
*Sabrent M.2 NVMe PS5 heatsink (SB-PSHS)*
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Thank You very much!
@@BuildOrBuy yea thats the one I was talking about but I just realised I dont think you have a ps5 to test it in. It looks like a good product though interested to know if it would outperform a firecuda heatsink
HI@@jerrysberrys3415,
We can only Test in a Computer to verify Speed and Heat. Very good Question! Only way to know is to Test!
I find it strange that in the drawing they only have thermal paste on the bottom part well what about the top part because that heatsink rotates
Hi GOOGLE USER,
Instructions could be a bit more clear and concise. Results on this one jut did not measure up to the hype. Smoke and Mirrors on this one!
Great video! Would you test Be Quiet! MC1 Pro cooler? It is a low profile cooler with a heat pipe under the top heatsink. The MC1 version is just plain aluminium. I have a 970 EVO Plus with a homemade heatsink (individual heatsinks are on the controller and on the 2 memory with reused thermal pads and zip ties :) ) and I would like to buy a heatsink that performs good, has a low profile as possible, and looks good.
Hi Luke Sky,
Welcome! Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments! Seems everyone is out of Stock on that Item! You're not the only one who has asked! If You find a reasonable Source that does not charge an arm and a leg, let Us know! You're not going to have as much of a problem at that Speed with Heat however, I hear You! Also the Thermal Pads. Change those from stock to a higher W/mK value such as link Listed below. Stay tuned!
be quiet! BZ003 MC1 Pro M.2 SSD Cooler, heatsink with Heat Pipe
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Thermal Grizzly Minus Pad 8
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Hope that helps!
Sabrent rocket nvme ssd heatsink doesn't have any pipes, neither does acidalie - it's copper poles bend that way and not a heatpipes plus sabrent heatsink top part of copper poles are not touching the top part of aluminium block at all...
Hi 1sonyzz,
Welcome! Define each device as You like. The Results are what matters. And We have Tested 14 Heatsinks. Thanks for Watching!
Excellent video Mr Gill. 😊👍
Could you be so kind as to help me. 🙏
I would love your opinion or advice on what passive heatsink I could buy for a
4TB double-sided M.2 WD_BLACK SN850X
because I got the
Sabrent M.2 2280 SSD Rocket Heatsink (SB-HTSK)
and the m.2 is something thick that does not allow me to close the heatsink box. Thank you
Hi Christian,
Welcome. Thank You for Your Comments. Our 2 top performers:
1. ACIDALIE M.2 2280 SSD Heatsink, Double - Aluminum Heat Sink for PCIE M.2 NVME SSD
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2. JEYI Finscold M.2 HeatSink, Heavy Duty Aluminum Convective Heat Sink, Passive Heat Sinks with Fins
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@@BuildOrBuy Hi Mr Gill.
Thank you so much for taking your valuable time and answering my question.
Yes, thank you for your good advice I will definitely buy it.
Sorry for my insistence, but could this ACIDALIE M.2 2280 SSD Heatsink, Double - Aluminum Heat Sink for PCIE M.2 NVME SSD be compatible with the thickness size of my M.2?
Hi@@Christianguilbert-hf7qz,
Glad to help. The problem lies in the side Holes. They need to be elongated. The JEYI Finscold has elongated holes.
The second heat pipe is flattened under the drive cover..........
Hi RockvilleMike,
Welcome! Yes! Appreciate Your message! Just now seeing Your Comment! We have Tested 14 M.2 NVMe PCIe Heatsinks and 2 Thermal Pads! Fascinating Results! This was not one of the better Performing ones! Thanks for Watching!
Why blocking the venting holes with the useless non contacting thermal pad?
Hi Michel Brisebois,
Welcome! Glad You asked! To reiterate, following Manufacturers installation instructions! Thanks for Watching!
Could you look at the "icepc M.2 PCI-E NVME 2280 SSD Graphene Coating Copper Heatsink" on amazon. they say it's graphene but I don't beleive it because graphene is a super expensive substance to make (new technology). It might be Graphite, which is still better than just bare copper for heat. it there a way to test if it's Graphite coating or just paint? thanks
Hi Kim,
Welcome! Yes, good point. We've seen that one too! Curious but not curious enough unless someone wants to make a Contribution to cover the Cost. Gigabyte is using that. I think so is Sabrent. Very interesting, absolutely! Vendors are all about marketing. Intel is a good example with Thunderbolt. The best solution will be to Test and check the Results. We've learned enough from these Tests to throw Heatsink assumptions out the door. And Yes, We need a good Laptop Heatsink where space is at a premium!
Let's look at what We do know. icepc M.2 PCI-E NVME 2280 SSD Graphene Coating Copper Heatsink. That's Copper. OK. Our Test Results from Our Chart for Copper:
2. TRX40 Designare 2nd Heatsink = 65 Degrees C
6. Awxlumv Copper Fin = 61 Degrees C
7. M.2 Copper Laptop 2 Pack = 69 Degrees C
8. icePC Copper = 69 Degrees C
My expectation would be somewhere in that range of Results.
icepc M.2 PCI-E NVME 2280 SSD Graphene Coating Copper Heatsink，High Performance SSD Radiator with Thermal Conductive Adhesive for Laptop PC 2280 NGFF Solid State Disk Cooler(70x20x1.5mm)
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Hope that helps! Thanks for Asking!
Also im wondering , would you personally open a factory applied firecuda heatsink just to swap the thermal pads to say the thermal grizly ones? Would breaking the factory seal be worth it?
Hi Jerrys Berrys,
Great minds run in the same channel! I would like to inspect one before making that decision. The EKWB M.2 NVMe Heatsink We're already Tested gave Us pause for concern. However, everything We've seen on this new EKWB Heatsink has Us wondering. Depends. I don't see the side clips that were so troublesome to install. I cannot tell if this one is glued on or if it's a press fit. I'd prefer to test both Drives. One with EKWB and one without. And then Compare the two. And see if We can do better than EKWB using stock Components. Right now, neither Seagate FireCuda 530 in 2TB is available. And based on the Specs, the Test must be on the 2TB and not the 1TB version. Denser Memory, Faster Memory. Good speculating! Thanks for Asking! Stay Tuned!
@@BuildOrBuy thanks mate ,not sure if you have seen their video on on it but apparently has micro pores whatever they are haha but I think its pretty much a completely different design from the standalone ek ones no fins on top it looks like one big solid piece of aluminium, so I would think different performance . But for your curiosity I can confirm it is held together by 4 screws 2 on each side
Hi@@jerrysberrys3415,
You see the Screws! Perfect! Yes, a candidate for better Thermal Performance with different Thermal Pads! A definite contender! Thanks for Sharing!
@@BuildOrBuy Hi Gill. Grandpa wants a water block on a quad card. GEN5 NVMe drives on a quad card may require a WB. Next to a 4090Ti with a WB front and rear air flow may be restricted just a tad. I'm beginning to wonder if an upgrade to an Asus Thor 1600 watt Ti is going to be future proof for more than a few months.
Hi@@maxhughes5687, Good one! Good to hear from You! Too much Consumer poop is getting in the way of Purpose Built Work Computers. Agreed, PCIe 5.0 looks to be a Heat problem and will require Waterblocks, however this Power thing is getting out of hand.
Been working on next Video for Thunderbolt Storage as asked by several Subscribers. Stay Tuned! Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!
How much weight can these nvme slots hold without the risk of damage
Hi@@aridgp1,
Welcome. Good question. That's always been a concern of ours if an M.2 Drive is mounted perpendicular to the Motherboard of if the Motherboard is mounted perpendicular to gravity. Note the attachment points of the M.2 Connector and the Hold down screw. We're not aware of any tests to confirm that concern. Use your best judgment. Your Results may vary.
You use the paste between the Heatpipe and the aluminum
Hi Dude In The Wasteland,
Welcome! Correct! And Very different from the other 15 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD Heatsinks We've Tested so far.
@@BuildOrBuy yeah, I got excited a little early... I should have held off for the rest of the video 🤣. I was like "noone would put thermal paste on their m.2, wonder what that's for"
And yes, still no match for the Acidalie... I use the Acidalie on all my drives... It's unreal with the temps 💪
Would the Cryorig heat sink work better with case closed and air blowing across the fins ? I wonder if it's a better test for it to have pc fans circulating air over the fins?
Hi Kim,
That's a distinct possibility. However, all Tests are being performed Case open for apples to apples comparisons. This is a wacky design. Not practical. Only one Heatpipe. We have better Results from other Heatsinks. Thanks for Asking!
I have a lot of catching up to do. But this heatsink seems to be a lot of work
Hi GOOGLE USER,
Very much so! A lot of work for not much benefit. Answering Subscribers Questions! So We Test!
there are two heat pipes, you just dont want to see them
Hi FUOFire,
Welcome! Left and Right! We have Tested other M.2 NVMe Heatsinks that performed better. Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!
Excuse the noob question, what is "on dual" and "on MB" means?
Hi gr4yw4rd3n,
Welcome! Only way to learn is to ask! We're here to help! On Dual is reference to the location of the M.2 NVMe Heatsink on the Supermicro Dual M.2 NVMe PCIe Adapter. On Motherboard is reference to the location of the M.2 NVMe Heatsink. On this particular Motherboard there are 4 M.2 NVMe Connectors. Two are to the CPU. We used the Primary M.2 NVMe Connector. And the other Two are through the Chipset. Hope that clarification helps! We were Testing 14 different M.2 NVMe Heatsinks and 3 Thermal Pads. Talking in Short hand. Lots of Information to digest even for Us!
@@BuildOrBuy Okay, what about the test without any on dual or on MB note? Is it all on dual? Is yes than the tests are not too accurate because majority people use on MB. Just a thought 🙂
Hi@@gr4yw4rd3n,
Our Testing of M.2 NVMe Heatsinks started as a Question about Heatsinks for Dual M.2 NVMe Adapters and not about same on Motherboards. Perception and Perspective.
Should have used Arctic MX-5
Hi 𝕄𝕣.𝔽𝕣𝕖𝕖𝕞𝕒𝕟☠︎,
That modification would differ from the stock product for which We needed a baseline measurement. If the M.2 Heatsink had given Results to warrant any changes such as using different Thermal Pads or different Thermal Compound, that would have been the next step. However, other Heatsinks performed better out of the box. This was only one of Fourteen M.2 Heatsinks.
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Hi Max,
Wow! Just now seeing this Comment! RUclips never informed Us! I'm seeing this through the RUclips Dashboard! Appreciate Your Feedback! Thanks for Watching!