They used to apparently have "kill companion" option in beta. However it ended with vast majority of players killing their healers and then wondering "Where could they get another one".
Quinn: I have exhaustively noted your strenghts and weaknesses. Strengths: A lot and powerful. Weaknesses: Nearly none and irrelevant. Quinn: *Chuckles* I'm in danger.
It honestly felt like Quin half assed this whole """attempt""" to be able to say he tried so that Baras doesn't force choke him from half a galaxy away. Like really, battle droids? That's all of his 200 IQ galaxy brain could come up with lmao.
@@cloudftw113 To be fair, this encounter back in vanilla SWtoR was unforgiving. They were way more difficult to be and had a buff specifically for beating you. You needed to play your cards right or bring a friend for this encounter.
@@noctusvolpes Why did they change that? I mean its fun to be powerfull as fuuuuck, but still, that sounds like more fun than just wipeing the flor whit them
My M4 button is a randomized selector for any of the hotkeys attacks, i like to mix it up a little, enemies can't know what I'm gonna do if I don't know what I'm gonna do
If a fight that lasts for only 12 seconds is the Sith Warrior's "greatest test" it just goes to show how big of a mistake his master made in betraying his own apprentice. Baraas was a mastermind but that doesn't mean he wasn't an idiot too.
@@SmellyUnfortunate007 I was wondering how he made it so easy. It was hard for me. I was only one level above the cap of that area and still almost died in that fight.
@@SmellyUnfortunate007 I wonder how he did that. I played Jedi Knight recently with my crafted gear (for level 42, 2 sabers and full armor with power bonuses) and without healer I would barely survive 3 silver enemies on my own. I was always scaled that I needed like 10-14 seconds for single silver enemy ;/
Quinn: Baras has always been one step ahead of the enemy, He'll lead us to victory. Warrior: Don't you mean a coward, any real sith would have jumped at the chance to kill their jedi enemy and yet he had me do it for him.
*any real warrior. A sith achieves victory however they can, it’s up to the individual to choose how. That said Baras is a little bitch who got very lucky to be given the Warrior as an apprentice, and was very stupid in sending Draahg to try and kill them
@@ritenac6770 Multiple times he sent Draagh. I was tired of seeing the welp. Then he claimed to be immortal. An unstoppable force meeting a (delusional) immovable object. Sad part is, even if you distrust Baras and are completely disrespectful towards him, the SW dialog comes from a place of trust. Baras' best bet of killing the SW was, ironically, keeping him close
Warrior: Many of those enemies were once friends, he isn't one step ahead, he's always behind the real champions of the Empire. The perfect position to stab them in the back.
@@joseestevezhernandez558 Well, if you play LS, he is a little more bloodthirsty. I have an LS Sorcerer, so I never take Khem or Xalek anywhere because they are purely DS. Besides, I like Drellik and Ashara.
Drellik is awesome... i think there's a 98% consesus in that. And Xalec.... love the fact that he looks like somewhat out of the setting, he's Sith but he goes around like some barbarian shaman, without time for lies, words and hesitation
@@inyalgaico1563 maybe because of romanced Vette almost instantly I kinda found quin super suspect from the start and never really trusted him his betrayal was a non issue for me because he always was on the bench anyway
Not gonna lie, Quinn just wants to be the best tactician in the Sith Empire. He wants to be in the winning side of all things but he underestimated the Sith Warrior's abilities. He does need a 2nd chance because at first, Baras is somewhat persuasive. 2nd is that this wasn't personal. And 3rd, he wants to see the Sith Empire win at the best way possible but he was blind to the lies of Baras.
The man did have a front row seat of the warrior beating the odds and defying Baras's plans up to that point though. Quinn's betrayal would probably be the closest Baras ever got to being a thorn in the warrior's side.
Georgi GS: I know how thorough you are, Quinn. I am sure this will be my greatest test. **proceeds to absolutely thrash Quinn and his droids in a matter of seconds**
3:09 I love that hesitating, which lasts whole 5 seconds. Though you literally always choses the Light side choses, this incident made you ponder. I was almost certain that you would reject mercy this time.
"These droids are desinged especially to kill you" "Im sure this will be my greatest test" *Wins loosing only 1% health* "Your droids pushed me, it was a valid attempt"
Not gonna lie, as a female Sith Warrior that romances Quinn, this hurt lol. Great for fanfics, but not for my emotional state. I did ditch him for Arcann later so idk what that says about me
Wish devs would have allowed to kill him that time and not wait till some DLC. It doesn't make any sense for sith to leave him alive leaving player with no choice. I know devs were trying to leave warrior with 5 companions, like the rest of the classes and since he was the only healer at the start, it would have been a big impact on the gameplay, but still dull decidion for dark side story.
@@steadyjumper3547 Killing him was an options when the game was first released, however companions couldn't handle all roles like they can now. He was the only healer until your final companion, which left you a little gimped in the game. To prevent people from making such a mistake, they changed the kill option to choke, and never changed it back, instead allowing you to kill him later on.
>Your droids pushed me I mean, they did physically push him away once so that's not TECHNICALLY a lie. They did push him, they just didn't really inconvenience him.
This was funny with Vette. When you said that you didn't see Quinn's betrayal coming, she said that she never thought that captain boredom would manage to surprise them. Also Quinn judges all companions unworthy, save Jaesa, unless i'm mistaken. Edit: and apparently Broonmark as well.
Quinn: The risk I took was calculated... [Sith Warrior slaps him into the ground in 0.5 seconds flat] Quinn: [groaning]... but *man*, am I bad at math.
Quinn swapping from "Baras is the anchor of my career! I would give my life for him! I'm sorry my lord but this is the only way!" to "Baras sux SW forever!" that quickly, without any subsequent betrayals, is not what I would call great writing, personally. I really liked the SW storyline but this betrayal was not the strongest part of it. Esp. since killing him is no longer an option.
If Vette's there, Quinn says to her that seh is allways so mouthy since zur Sith took her shock collar. My Solution for this whole scene (Sadly only Headcannon) as punishment for the betrayal Quinn get's the shock collar and Vette the button to shock him.
You used to be able to kill him for this betrayal, before they added him as a major factor in a later dlc. It was a real big shock when he appeared all of a sudden when I knew he was dead, I was like " Wait, didn't I kill you years ago"
I miss being able to kill companions or deny them in your service, I'd get rid of Skadge. My oldest Hunter, made when the game came out he was not in my party, and all of a sudden he was back.
I really wish they would have let us kill Quinn here. Even my Light Side Characters want to do it. Just think what the crew would have done to him: Vette and Pierce: They would arrange an Airlock "accident" at the very least or shape charge explosive under his pillow. Broomark: As soon as Quinn got back to the ship, Broomark would just rip Quinn apart. Quinn's head would be on display in Broomark's room. Light Side Jaesa: She might be the only who wouldn't kill him, but she would scan him with power everyday. Dark Side Jaesa: Yeah I shudder at the thought of this one. She stays in the Med Bay, so I imagine she would kill Quinn....slowly over at least a 3 day period......and then send the body to Baras. It would make what Baras did to the Republic Agent (at the beginning of the story) look like sloppy Out Patient Surgery.
Quinn:"My droids can be beaten because I have studied you so thoroughly" ... Quinn: "I don't expect your mercy" Does thoroughly mean something different where he is from? I think i see why his machines failed.
When me and a friend played, I ran the Warrior and her the Inquisitor, and when I chose some light side options even though we were going dark side, I invented an old Sith Adage. "Every so often, show your enemies mercy. It confuses them."
Quinn: “I’ve watched your every move. These droids have been tailored to be immune to you.” SW: “Oh good, finally an excuse to not hold back anymore. I’ve been so bored with the lack of competition, I’ve never had an opportunity to ever use my full power before since it’s all been too easy.” Quinn: “…oh Neptune…”
@@BurnMassive after watching through the series again, it seems like he did not die and just no longer plays a major part of talks at all. That or another of your crew looted his body and took his standard issue empire armor for themselves and is wearing it around the ship in scenes.
Knew he was the traitor from the scene prior when he insisted on accompanying you - made a point of going full LS as a power play, and maybe because his dedication to the empire was genuine and almost inspiring.
5 more of those wouldn't have dented the siths armor. My Sith was already doing lobbies too, with pretty good gear. But yes. A valiant attempt at suicide.
Warrior “this is the worst betrayal possible…” Quinn “I am sorry it has come to this…” Warrior “oh you thought I meant worst as in most painful? I meant worst as is most PATHETIC!”
It's the Volatile Shock Trooper armor set, you can get it on Galactic Trade Network, or use the Contraband Slot Machines (which can be found on a well supplied guild stronghold) to improve your Reputation with the Underworld Exchange and get access to some stuff from the Cartel Bazaar vendors.
Fun fact! You gain a unique buff during this mission! Essentially, because of Quinn's betrayal you gain a buff to your attack power around 30 to 50% if I remember correctly!
Ah, oops looks like I was right 🤔 "Quinn taking off running at the end, he wanted to "nope" it out of there in a hurry. 🤔 Suspicious. Hopefully, he won't betray you too! 🤔"
Yeah, he watched on passive mode as I killed Reven without heal stations or support... Actually, come to think of it I am surprised he thought ANY droid would work. My SWs only weakness was for lightside options in conversations... and falling from heights.
Fun fact, when Swtor first released companions had gear and stats the same as the player, but they scaled better off it, a companion in full adaptive gear, with the most up to date blue quality mods and armorings were able to solo encounters while you sat and watched, as such this fight was impossible for my Sith Warrior... Until I removed all his gear and made him fight me naked lol
I went in this mission with Quinn as a companion cause I got spoiled about his betrayal and I thought he was supposed to be with me. I'm glad it went that way, it felt natural to face him alone. It was quite sad, cause aside from Jaesa and Vette he was my favorite companion. Quite funny that I started liking Pierce more after Quinn's betrayal, it made Pierce seem more likeable since he was genuinely loyal in spite of the fact that his mentality seemed rather brutish at times
My Sith Warrior was a villain with a soft spot for his crew and a respect for his allies. Quinn's betrayal was a genuine surprise, but I decided that his usefulness outweighed his betrayal. He was absolutely smarter than the officers around him and I honestly believed that if any non-force user was going to have the best shot at killing me, it'd be him. I respected the attempt, but I made it clear he wouldn't get away with it a second time. I didn't _really_ forgive him until much later when the dialogue allowed me to tell Quinn he made up for the earlier betrayal. He had earned that.
SW has some really smooth and gracious lines like you wouldn't expect I'm glad they let you play as sith in swtor But i'm also glad they let you play a level headed sith instead of the cliche destroy and kill everything because i'm stronk
This is basically just Goku. "Nah, man. It was a good fight, no hard feelings."
I’ll do you one better.
*Nothing personal kid..*
Goatku
Best kind of sith too, just a warrior.
They used to apparently have "kill companion" option in beta. However it ended with vast majority of players killing their healers and then wondering "Where could they get another one".
@@Ruosteinenknight Well, they certainly wouldn't use the ship droids.
Quinn: I have exhaustively noted your strenghts and weaknesses.
Strengths: A lot and powerful.
Weaknesses: Nearly none and irrelevant.
Quinn: *Chuckles* I'm in danger.
It honestly felt like Quin half assed this whole """attempt""" to be able to say he tried so that Baras doesn't force choke him from half a galaxy away. Like really, battle droids? That's all of his 200 IQ galaxy brain could come up with lmao.
@@cloudftw113 To be fair, this encounter back in vanilla SWtoR was unforgiving. They were way more difficult to be and had a buff specifically for beating you. You needed to play your cards right or bring a friend for this encounter.
@@noctusvolpes ohhh yeah, I (vaguely) remember that buff back in the day.
@@noctusvolpes Why did they change that? I mean its fun to be powerfull as fuuuuck, but still, that sounds like more fun than just wipeing the flor whit them
Quinn: "I have studied your weaknesses."
Sith: "Funny, that's a good one."
"I have exhaustively noted your strengths and weaknesses"
Me who button mashed: Good luck buddy I'm a randomizer
My M4 button is a randomized selector for any of the hotkeys attacks, i like to mix it up a little, enemies can't know what I'm gonna do if I don't know what I'm gonna do
@@adeptusfantasticus Best strategy
"Jokes on you, I custom-wrote a random number generator code to calculate my attack patterns!"
@@adeptusfantasticus Sonic: We are the same. I know what you gonna do because you know what I'm gonna do! This is strange isn't it?
Metal Sonic:...
"This will be my greatest test" Wins in 12 seconds.🤣
If a fight that lasts for only 12 seconds is the Sith Warrior's "greatest test" it just goes to show how big of a mistake his master made in betraying his own apprentice. Baraas was a mastermind but that doesn't mean he wasn't an idiot too.
It was a lot harder back then. But level syncs, over-levelng, or using bonus stats just makes this too easy.
@@SmellyUnfortunate007 I was wondering how he made it so easy. It was hard for me. I was only one level above the cap of that area and still almost died in that fight.
@@SmellyUnfortunate007 I wonder how he did that. I played Jedi Knight recently with my crafted gear (for level 42, 2 sabers and full armor with power bonuses) and without healer I would barely survive 3 silver enemies on my own. I was always scaled that I needed like 10-14 seconds for single silver enemy ;/
@@SmellyUnfortunate007 was also easy back then but I was a few levels above the cap of the area
That feeling when a being who could squash you like a bug tells you "It's all good dude, good try, I forgive you." after you tried to kill him.
I mean, for the Sith it was like a Chihuahua trying to bite him. More adorable than anything else
Quinn: Baras has always been one step ahead of the enemy, He'll lead us to victory.
Warrior: Don't you mean a coward, any real sith would have jumped at the chance to kill their jedi enemy and yet he had me do it for him.
*any real warrior. A sith achieves victory however they can, it’s up to the individual to choose how.
That said Baras is a little bitch who got very lucky to be given the Warrior as an apprentice, and was very stupid in sending Draahg to try and kill them
@@ritenac6770 Multiple times he sent Draagh. I was tired of seeing the welp. Then he claimed to be immortal. An unstoppable force meeting a (delusional) immovable object.
Sad part is, even if you distrust Baras and are completely disrespectful towards him, the SW dialog comes from a place of trust. Baras' best bet of killing the SW was, ironically, keeping him close
Warrior: Many of those enemies were once friends, he isn't one step ahead, he's always behind the real champions of the Empire. The perfect position to stab them in the back.
I like Broonmark's response if you bring him and Quinn offers him a place at Baras' side.
"YOU INSULT US. OUR VOW IS FOREVER. OUR VOW IS ALWAYS."
i'm surprised so few liked Broonmark, he's awesome
@@joseestevezhernandez558 Well, if you play LS, he is a little more bloodthirsty. I have an LS Sorcerer, so I never take Khem or Xalek anywhere because they are purely DS. Besides, I like Drellik and Ashara.
@@joevile240 Drellik is baby. He's just so sweet. The way he says "oh ... We won!!" just makes me go "awww"
Drellik is awesome... i think there's a 98% consesus in that. And Xalec.... love the fact that he looks like somewhat out of the setting, he's Sith but he goes around like some barbarian shaman, without time for lies, words and hesitation
And still he fights you if you choose to save wookie in alliance quest.
Dkmouth liar.
"I knew there was a reason I wanted to put a gun to his head the minute I met him."-Pierce.
Even my LS Warrior would not have been as kind. He was very scathing to say the least.
Yea, my LS sith wasn't kind either. I basically ran him as a I'm a reasonable man, but cross me and you'll pay the consequences character.
Yep, this definitely takes the top spot for "Top 10 anime betrayals".
ikr
@@inyalgaico1563 maybe because of romanced Vette almost instantly I kinda found quin super suspect from the start and never really trusted him his betrayal was a non issue for me because he always was on the bench anyway
Not gonna lie, Quinn just wants to be the best tactician in the Sith Empire. He wants to be in the winning side of all things but he underestimated the Sith Warrior's abilities. He does need a 2nd chance because at first, Baras is somewhat persuasive. 2nd is that this wasn't personal. And 3rd, he wants to see the Sith Empire win at the best way possible but he was blind to the lies of Baras.
The man did have a front row seat of the warrior beating the odds and defying Baras's plans up to that point though. Quinn's betrayal would probably be the closest Baras ever got to being a thorn in the warrior's side.
We were forced to give him a second chance, we should have been able to kill him then and there if it weren't for the crybabies in the beta.
@@CJR-wv8kc I agree. The fact the option doesn't appear is BS.
Like how Anakin saw through the lies of the Jedi.
"I calculate a near zero percent chance of your survival."
Three seconds later.
(Lie) That was the most difficult fight of my life.
I think he actually calculated his own survival
This actually surprised the shit out of me and he isnt being forced and it isnt a lie of any kind just the truth and betrayal
Same here. He was my bro and I just could not be mad at him like....we all make mistakes at one point. Lets talk it over
Surprised despite being warned by the glowing dude just beforehand? 😉
Situation must have been very awkward between Pierce and Quinn after this...
Georgi GS: I know how thorough you are, Quinn. I am sure this will be my greatest test.
**proceeds to absolutely thrash Quinn and his droids in a matter of seconds**
I spared Quinn because I genuinely liked his character. This betrayal really took me by surprise and made me a little sad.
I spared him, but made it clear that he was on thin ice
I love how the Sith Warrior isn't surprised, just disappointed with the execution.
3:09
I love that hesitating, which lasts whole 5 seconds. Though you literally always choses the Light side choses, this incident made you ponder. I was almost certain that you would reject mercy this time.
That fight lasted about as long as my dungeon master wants combat to be in real time when we're level 3
"These droids are desinged especially to kill you"
"Im sure this will be my greatest test"
*Wins loosing only 1% health*
"Your droids pushed me, it was a valid attempt"
Not gonna lie, as a female Sith Warrior that romances Quinn, this hurt lol. Great for fanfics, but not for my emotional state.
I did ditch him for Arcann later so idk what that says about me
I guess you never did forget his betrayal of your character by Quinn for such selfish but understandable reasons.
@@dnw009 to be fair, I made another sith warrior to romance Quinn because I missed him lol
Lmao I think it definitely says something about you. You like em ambitious that's for sure 😂
I feel sorry for the SWs that romance Quinn then Theron.
@@justanotherglorpsdaymornin5097 I romance (and marriage) Theron with my female SW. But Quinn is still alive after Iokath ^^
"I am sure this will be my greatest test."
"Actually, it was super easy, barely an inconvenience!"
"It will never come into question again"
*Some time later*
"It has come into question again..."
Light Side sith warrior is just the nicest guy. And everyone attacks and betrays them anyway.
He still kills some dudes, even when they're defenceless... he's not the nicest guy.
Pure light side Sith Warrior is like Chad from SNL.
"Oh ok."
"Word?"
"Oh, no thank you."
"Oh no, I'm in trouble."
Wish devs would have allowed to kill him that time and not wait till some DLC.
It doesn't make any sense for sith to leave him alive leaving player with no choice. I know devs were trying to leave warrior with 5 companions, like the rest of the classes and since he was the only healer at the start, it would have been a big impact on the gameplay, but still dull decidion for dark side story.
The devs just aren’t will to go full RPG and not full MMO
@@steadyjumper3547 Killing him was an options when the game was first released, however companions couldn't handle all roles like they can now. He was the only healer until your final companion, which left you a little gimped in the game. To prevent people from making such a mistake, they changed the kill option to choke, and never changed it back, instead allowing you to kill him later on.
"We've been planning this for a long time."
*Summons two droids.*
>Your droids pushed me
I mean, they did physically push him away once so that's not TECHNICALLY a lie. They did push him, they just didn't really inconvenience him.
I find it funny that BioWare removed the ability to kill Quinn so he can have like 2 pieces of dialogue five years later.
It was because back then companions couldn't switch classes and Quinn was the only medic
This was funny with Vette. When you said that you didn't see Quinn's betrayal coming, she said that she never thought that captain boredom would manage to surprise them.
Also Quinn judges all companions unworthy, save Jaesa, unless i'm mistaken.
Edit: and apparently Broonmark as well.
i love how betrayal always has the i'm so sorry musical cue, such a cool detail
This quest meant a hell of alot more when companions could ACTUALLY PERMENANTLY DIE and didn't have plot armor because players complained.
Quinn: The risk I took was calculated...
[Sith Warrior slaps him into the ground in 0.5 seconds flat]
Quinn: [groaning]... but *man*, am I bad at math.
I like how you and Quinn just walk back to the ship with no sign or mention of Pierce being revied or returning on his own
Sometimes I forget this game is ten years old when I'm trying to tell people bioware still makes good games
And yet, some SW fans refuse to play SWTOR because they feel there are on "rails" the entire game. Pff. Fools!
Quinn swapping from "Baras is the anchor of my career! I would give my life for him! I'm sorry my lord but this is the only way!" to "Baras sux SW forever!" that quickly, without any subsequent betrayals, is not what I would call great writing, personally. I really liked the SW storyline but this betrayal was not the strongest part of it. Esp. since killing him is no longer an option.
If Vette's there, Quinn says to her that seh is allways so mouthy since zur Sith took her shock collar.
My Solution for this whole scene (Sadly only Headcannon) as punishment for the betrayal Quinn get's the shock collar and Vette the button to shock him.
God I wish
_Meanwhile, Pierce is still laying on the deck._
Warrior: Wait, didn't we forget something?
Quinn: Whatever could you possibly mean, my Lord?
Pierce still lying on the ground.
You used to be able to kill him for this betrayal, before they added him as a major factor in a later dlc. It was a real big shock when he appeared all of a sudden when I knew he was dead, I was like " Wait, didn't I kill you years ago"
I miss being able to kill companions or deny them in your service, I'd get rid of Skadge. My oldest Hunter, made when the game came out he was not in my party, and all of a sudden he was back.
wait a minute, how did this happen? we're smarter than this
"This is the worst betrayal possible."
"This is the worst betrayal possible *so far*!"
"Your droids pushed me. It was a valiant attempt. It almost took me 15 seconds to defeat all 3 of you :)"
I really wish they would have let us kill Quinn here. Even my Light Side Characters want to do it. Just think what the crew would have done to him:
Vette and Pierce: They would arrange an Airlock "accident" at the very least or shape charge explosive under his pillow.
Broomark: As soon as Quinn got back to the ship, Broomark would just rip Quinn apart. Quinn's head would be on display in Broomark's room.
Light Side Jaesa: She might be the only who wouldn't kill him, but she would scan him with power everyday.
Dark Side Jaesa: Yeah I shudder at the thought of this one. She stays in the Med Bay, so I imagine she would kill Quinn....slowly over at least a 3 day period......and then send the body to Baras. It would make what Baras did to the Republic Agent (at the beginning of the story) look like sloppy Out Patient Surgery.
I've got a pair of cybernetic legs ready and waiting for Quinn after this moment... *narrows eyes*
I dress Quinn in only his undies after incident. Let him be embarrassed.
When I read the title “Well, if it isn’t my old friend, Betrayal.”
My sith warrior was like "Really? Another betrayal?"
My Sith warrior was like: “damn, another one I’m so shocked. Oh my god I’m dying of shock”
2:48 Seems like the floor has decided to eat the Lieutenant.
Same soundtrack plays during the reveal of Havok Squad's defection.
Quinn:"My droids can be beaten because I have studied you so thoroughly"
...
Quinn: "I don't expect your mercy"
Does thoroughly mean something different where he is from? I think i see why his machines failed.
When me and a friend played, I ran the Warrior and her the Inquisitor, and when I chose some light side options even though we were going dark side, I invented an old Sith Adage. "Every so often, show your enemies mercy. It confuses them."
xi'thari: \*dismantle the droids in a matter of seconds* "you droids pushed me, it was a valiant attempt*
dude... xD
Quinn: “I’ve watched your every move. These droids have been tailored to be immune to you.”
SW: “Oh good, finally an excuse to not hold back anymore. I’ve been so bored with the lack of competition, I’ve never had an opportunity to ever use my full power before since it’s all been too easy.”
Quinn: “…oh Neptune…”
SW: Honestly I've been bored this whole time; have you listened to the tone of my voice? Perpetually laid back
"Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal,"
2:41 I guess Quinn didn't calculate his own droids shooting through him lol.
Lieutenant Pierce became one with the force , as there are only two of you walking out of the chamber lol
And then Quin and X’tari promised to keep the event a secret along side force ghost pierce.
Funny that they left Pierce at the spot where he is unconscious
And he's mysteriously missing after that scene too
Where did he go? 🤣🤣🤣
thanos snapped obviously lol.
So it seems like he’s dead unless I'm greatly mistaken.
@@Dr.Sho_Minamimoto "Don't worry, I'll keep this incident between us three" -
A few days later at the ship "Where is Pierce?"
@@BurnMassive after watching through the series again, it seems like he did not die and just no longer plays a major part of talks at all.
That or another of your crew looted his body and took his standard issue empire armor for themselves and is wearing it around the ship in scenes.
He despawns because the game force equips Quinn as the active companion and just forgets to spawn Pierce as an NPC after doing so
0:40 “This is the worst betrayal possible.” Sounds like a burn.
Is Xi’thari his name?
Well, well, well... How the turn table's.
I noticed that the song playing is "I'm sorry" from Episode 3.
“We will keep this between the three of us”
You
Me
And the unconscious body that we left behind where you tried to kill me
Knew he was the traitor from the scene prior when he insisted on accompanying you - made a point of going full LS as a power play, and maybe because his dedication to the empire was genuine and almost inspiring.
Nice to see I am not the only one who likes that outfit.
5 more of those wouldn't have dented the siths armor. My Sith was already doing lobbies too, with pretty good gear.
But yes. A valiant attempt at suicide.
U get betrayed so many times that u are indeed old friends!!
Warrior “this is the worst betrayal possible…”
Quinn “I am sorry it has come to this…”
Warrior “oh you thought I meant worst as in most painful? I meant worst as is most PATHETIC!”
The Smiling Betrayer strikes again!
“Im sure it is going to be my greatest test” Wins the fight in under 2 seconds
"Your droids pushed me. It was a valiant attempt."
*His health bar didn't get below 90%*
*Insert the Halo Announcer saying "Betrayal"* here
I'd like a choice where the player character can say "betraying your master for power, eh? welcome to the deep end of the pool, little buddy."
(a DS user could even still kill him after saying that)
Quinn be like: "The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math."
The volatile shock trooper armour set, you lucky bastard
2:28 "this will be my greatest test"
*Proceeds to drop em in less than 15 seconds*
It is so weird to see a Sith being so polite and being s gud boy, lol
One can forgive murder, but not betrayal.
damn, bro got that backstabber's drip down to a T
new tag unlocked: TR-8R
How can I get that helmet? TELL ME HOW CAN I GET THAT HELMET!
I think it comes with the collector edition
The Volatile Shock Trooper armor set.
Is a Cartel Market armor set.
It's the Volatile Shock Trooper armor set, you can get it on Galactic Trade Network, or use the Contraband Slot Machines (which can be found on a well supplied guild stronghold) to improve your Reputation with the Underworld Exchange and get access to some stuff from the Cartel Bazaar vendors.
@@angvill1643 ohhh so it costs 12 trillion credits for one piece lol.
Sorry i had to joke about the obscene inflation plaguing the game.
@@oceanbytez847 You're not wrong lmfao! And that'd be cheapest for a good portion of all armor sets!
I like how the background music is all sad and dramatic as if I’d feel bad for putting this lowly imp in his place
The music as Pierce drops
Fun fact! You gain a unique buff during this mission! Essentially, because of Quinn's betrayal you gain a buff to your attack power around 30 to 50% if I remember correctly!
This sounds like something they did later on after people struggled to beat Quinn and the droids in the beginning
Short-lived betrayal.
What is to armor Quinn is wearing
So we're all just going to the delivery of the line at 0:43?
"I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed"
Well, well, well, if it isn't me
Ah, oops looks like I was right 🤔
"Quinn taking off running at the end, he wanted to "nope" it out of there in a hurry. 🤔 Suspicious. Hopefully, he won't betray you too! 🤔"
I still hate they got rid of the choice to kill him here, my warrior wouldn't have let him leave that room alive
This was surprising to me as I used him as a companion for basically the whole game. Having a 1v1 with him felt so good
Yeah, he watched on passive mode as I killed Reven without heal stations or support... Actually, come to think of it I am surprised he thought ANY droid would work. My SWs only weakness was for lightside options in conversations... and falling from heights.
@@christophershell7564 lol my only deaths were trying to run away from fights, and falling 100 feet
The end of this fight is what made go this is the full sith feeling, with the DS ending
Fun fact, when Swtor first released companions had gear and stats the same as the player, but they scaled better off it, a companion in full adaptive gear, with the most up to date blue quality mods and armorings were able to solo encounters while you sat and watched, as such this fight was impossible for my Sith Warrior... Until I removed all his gear and made him fight me naked lol
when he said "pushed me", he only meant it literally not figuratively.
I went in this mission with Quinn as a companion cause I got spoiled about his betrayal and I thought he was supposed to be with me. I'm glad it went that way, it felt natural to face him alone. It was quite sad, cause aside from Jaesa and Vette he was my favorite companion. Quite funny that I started liking Pierce more after Quinn's betrayal, it made Pierce seem more likeable since he was genuinely loyal in spite of the fact that his mentality seemed rather brutish at times
Bout time I see a pureblood sith character that actually looks like the main character.
it would be nice if you could put a shock collar on quinn
What armor is quinn wearing?
My Sith Warrior was a villain with a soft spot for his crew and a respect for his allies.
Quinn's betrayal was a genuine surprise, but I decided that his usefulness outweighed his betrayal. He was absolutely smarter than the officers around him and I honestly believed that if any non-force user was going to have the best shot at killing me, it'd be him.
I respected the attempt, but I made it clear he wouldn't get away with it a second time.
I didn't _really_ forgive him until much later when the dialogue allowed me to tell Quinn he made up for the earlier betrayal. He had earned that.
Anyone know what armor dude wears here? Looks sick I’ve never seen it before though.
Resilient Warden Chest
Darth Malgus pants
Eradicator gloves
Sinister warrior boots
Dark Marauder belt
Wayward warrior dye module
@@georgigs sick, thanks man! I’m 100% stealing this
SW has some really smooth and gracious lines like you wouldn't expect
I'm glad they let you play as sith in swtor
But i'm also glad they let you play a level headed sith instead of the cliche destroy and kill everything because i'm stronk
Well, they DID push him
Quinn is so much more smug about it on a male SW than he is with a romanced fem SW. Which makes more sense but man is he punchable rn.