The heartless men who were recorded saying they gave George a gliding lesson without the glider obviously threw him overboard while he was alive, presumably covering the robbery. How horrific.
Why didn't his NEW WIFE look for him the next morning but instead was getting a massage? I mean, isn't that weird to anyone? She woke up, her husband wasn't there but she didn't bother to look for him??
@@ronnynoneofyourbusinessgoo7892 They robbed him thinking he was unconscious. There was a struggle when he regained consciousness and they killed him. The drops of blood are from when they took his watch. If there was cash/jewelry they stole it after trashing the room. The wife's behavior is very off.How did she not notice the condition of the room? She went to her massage appointment 3 hours early.
@@kylekoester3085 The word "friend" is a stretch for someone you just met on a boat. But you are correct it did appear that these two were acting fast and lose with themselves and strangers. I pray for peace for his family. It's a tough loss in what should have been a joyful occasion.
Up for a spa after being 💩 faced blotto and carted off in a wheel chair a couple of hours earlier??? That must have taken super human effort. And yes, the state of the room?? All very fishy. Poor George. Why do people have to drink until they are incapacitated?? Is that really their idea of fun???
Her only response retelling the story (somehow it cuts to the boat stupidly when I am processing her microexpressions) is anger. Severe anger. It's her. Obviously. I know you cant use that in court but people are so clueless, it's sad. And before that I was like 3rd grad teacher, okay, it's not her.
That's how you know the cruise line was resigned to never find the guy. They probably already had video footage of one of their own going into the room. They probably squashed it because of the scandal of having one of their own be a murderer.
Investigation was botched as soon as they conducted a 'group interview' with those young guys early on instead of interviewing each separately. Had they interviewed them separately, they could have put to use very effective interview tactics that are designed to play them against each other until someone confesses either out of fear of being blamed or the fear of taking the fall for everyone else involved. This case is an eye opener for people who board cruise ships.
Cruise ships must develop policies to deal with violent crimes on board. It’s not like the first time something like this has happened. And doing a botched investigation and coverup is not good for business . Besides being morally the wrong thing to do
actually, it was the cruise ship who rushed the Turkish police because they were on a wchedule dropping off and oicking up passengers. Several statements were made about this or many other cases that cruise ships just wanna move on with their business.
Yep. Gonna say. Kinda was open to dumb stuff happening. I would have been rolling around in bed with my wife. Eating. Watching tv. Making more love and getting sleep. To repeat the next day. I would have been fine and had fun 😂
Few people realize how dangerous cruise ships are. MANY people go "missing" on cruises with no seeming explanation. A couple of years ago, 60 Minutes Australia did an expose of the Cruise Line Business. They discovered that on average one passenger per month "disappears" from a cruise ship somewhere in the World. They interviewed the former Chief Security Officer of a Cruise Line incognito who said that when you put a 1000 people on a boat in the middle of the ocean with an unlimited supply of alcohol, lots of Bad Things will inevitably happen. Many tourists fall overboard while drunk simply because walkways are narrow and they have no "sea legs". He said that assaults and rapes are common, and that some ship personnel even rape women passengers in their rooms. He said that much of this is hushed up with Pay Off money by the Cruise Line itself. The TRUTH about Smith's "disappearance" will never be known simply because it appears that Everyone involved was TOO Drunk to even remember The TRUTH. In other words, they were typical Cruise Line passengers. I've always thought of Cruise Ship vacations as being Absurd myself. I call them "Boat Rides to Nowhere" because most cruises end at the port where they begin. Somehow, being drunk 24/7 while stuck on a ship full of strangers never sounded like fun to me.
Lol... you just wrote exactly what I've always thought! When I was a child - 1970 - we immigrated from the UK to the USA on the QEII. Even though we had a destination I found it boring and tedious.
What you wrote makes so much sense to me. And cruises seem to attract people who dream of a fairy tale; tv and silly movies seem to leave their marks on many.
I was at sea on Merchant ships for nigh on 17 years.... I loved the life...the peace and the tranquility is something that is unique. However! The thought of going on a cruise liner...plastic palaces... would fill me with dread.... the possibility for disasters is immense....as per Costa Concordia.... being surrounded by people with nothing more to do than self indulge either with food or alcohol is completely abhorrent to me. (And I enjoy my beer!)
I have no idea what happened to George but I must say that the thought of having a honeymoon where the husband and wife pretty much go their separate ways is not my idea of a honeymoon. If they preferred the company of other people, why on earth did they get married? When I got married, 976 years ago, I really wanted to spend my honeymoon with my husband. But maybe that's just me.
@@sukijay4990 I think it's actually more indicative of how old I feel rather than being an indicator of how long it feels since I got married! I have only one regret about my marriage and that is that we did not meet and get married about a decade earlier so we would have had more time together. My husband died almost 15 years ago and I guess the time since he died seems like a LONG time. We were married for a little over 30 years and right up to the day he died I would rather spend my time with him than with anyone else so it just is strange to me to think that a young couple who are literally on their honeymoon chose to spend time with others. I don't understand!
@@maryannanderson2213 I’m sorry for your loss Maryann. It’s hard to lose any loved one, but when it’s your life partner and loyal friend, someone you have spent every day with and shared so much, that is even more devastating, I hope you have managed to create a full and happy life without him. I’m lucky enough to still have my husband and we have been together for 48 years all told, 45 of them married. I agree, it would have been strange not to have spent our honeymoon enjoying ourselves together, and the fact that the couple in this story were getting up to all sorts of drunken shenanigans separately wasn’t a good indication of a partnership that would have survived even if tragedy hadn’t separated them.
EXACTLYYYYYY I would have been rolling around in the sheets with my. Ex wife. Yet she seems like the crazy type you wouldn’t want to be with long term ..
So weird that these two go on Honeymoon to only sleep in different cabins, get wasted, and/or pass out drunk in a hallway. Call me old fashion but that doesn't sound like fun to me.
Live a defensive life. Avoid friends or situations that would end up complicating your lives. Don't drink to the point you lose self-control. Especially around strangers.
Never show off your wealth. We lived in a nice little town that we both loved. We did okay for ourselves, managed to save quite a bit every month. We didn't wear fancy clothes and didn't drive flashy cars. We were out one night, came home and discovered our house had been broken into. Long story short, they caught the guys who did it, and one of them sung like a canary. He said they heard we had a safe stuffed full of cash, so the plan was to tie us up and scare us into open it. They brought a handgun with them to do this.
I’m glad you weren’t home! I think of my life in my 20’s and 30’s and the chances I took! Very fortunate that I survived, and the chances I took were mild compared to some…
I agree, and am shocked that federal officials did not see that the compendium of evidence points to their guilt, at least enough to be adjudicated in court. Bringing charges on all of them, would pressure each to provide more testimony. The FBI and Justice Dept. have the authority to act on matters at sea, or even in foreign territorial waters, if the victim and/or suspected perpetrator(s) are U.S. citizens, particularly in the absence of actions by other authorities. The 'execution' of Greg Rosenberg is quite possibly an indication of Smith being murdered, and shows that the FBI/Justice Dept. have failed in this case.
I wonder if Jennifer noticed how messy the cabin looked when she got up! If you left your room in a tidy state, shouldn't you be worried if a) the place is a mess and b) your husband isn't there?
That is IF she'd left the room tidy, which she may not have. Those cabins are tiny and start to look messy really quick. She also may have noticed a bit more mess but thought her husband had been digging around, getting dressed and looking for things before he left that morning, which was what she assumed. Also, you need to factor in seeing this through a huge hangover, if not still somewhat intoxicated. Remember that she was loaded enough to pass out in the hallway in the early morning hours, enough that she had to be carried back to her room. She then got up and left less than 4 hours later. I'm not sure how much you've drank before but when you get up and have to be somewhere pretty quick in that state, you're more focused on not puking on your feet or figuring out how to make your head stop pounding than anything like some added mess to your room.
Her smirking during the interviews and lack of emotion speaks volumes. She may or may not have been involved but clearly based on her behavior really didn't give two 💩 about her husband! Callous 😢
Yes it is! My dear brother was at work offshore & there was an explosion after a gas line was “accidentally” hit by the rig he worked on. He & the coworker he tried to save were never found. That day changed my 50 year old loving mom forever. She never recovered emotionally & became physically ill. So yes, it’s horrible for a parent. My dad simply exists now. I love & miss you mom……Jr I miss you too. Forever my hero.😭😔🥀💔
@AVSgirl1985: The parents and the sister here are sad because they choose to be sad. People who go on grieving for a "loved one" for more than 2 years are mentally ill and should be referred to professional psychiatric services to help them stop living in the past and to start looking to the future. The wife here quickly moved on because she is NOT Mentally Ill with grief as were her in-laws. The wife is the most mentally healthy person in this story because she just accepted a settlement and moved on with her life. The parents and the sister here are sad because they choose to be sad. "Closure" is an "inside job". It happens when you come to a resolution inside of you, regardless of what's happening in the outside World. If True Crime producers REALLY Cared about the grieving families, they would compassionately guide them to professional help, rather than exploiting their grief in front of a TV Camera for a Lousy Dollar !!!
@@JosephKulik2016well let’s see how you handle a mysterious death of a child.You speak so confidently like you have done insider knowledge no one else is privy to! You say 2 years is acceptable but more is psychotic, I agree the parents and sister would benefit from counselling to help with their loss - but you’re sanctimonious and full of your own arrogance
@@JosephKulik2016 unbelievable!! When you lose someone you love in any circumstances it's called grief, you grieve for what you had, what would have been, you long for that person. There's no time limit on how long this takes especially when it's your child & even more so when they have no grave to mourn, no answers to who was responsible. They're not mentally ill, they didn't choose to have this happen or to feel this way. They're grieving.. as for the new wifey moving on so quickly after this happening that says more about her than them, just my opinion.
I don't know about you guys, but if I was told my husband had gone overboard, I would be so distressed and would be screaming for the Captain to stop the effing boat. I would go overboard myself in my panic to find and rescue my husband. I don't know how Jennifer looked so calm during her husband's disappearance. Those teen boys are shady AF and I think they did it.
I remember this case indicating the wife being involved with someone who worked on the ship. It didn't sound like much of a honeymoon. It sounded bizarre. Such a shame George lost his life. Very sad story with no reason for what happened. I don't believe George was stupid enough, even if he'd been smashed, to climb up and over the balcony railing to plunge down to his death. No one would.
Ummmm do you not remember when the man jumped overboard while intoxicated cause he thought the employees were discriminating towards him and his husband for being gay? Look it up. Being under the influence can cause people to be impulsive and irrational.
I in no way am blaming anyone. But if it is true that the couple. Was going around bragging about how much money. They had in their safe in their room. It made them easy prey for these men. I feel they were targeted. And I think he was killed. The cops were no help. As well as RC!! It’s really sad he seems like he was a good kid.
Those 4 guys looked guilty as hell. Taking the fifth instead of helping and one going to jail shortly after.... The wife was more interested in her personal needs than her husband.
Do some Americans have a problem when others avail of their constitutional rights? Maybe you want it taken away as it has been in the UK where availing of your right to silence can now be held against you in a criminal court? If you want to fuck about with your constitution abolish the 2nd…..No I didn’t really think so….. So then stop assuming taking the 5th is an admission or sign of guilt. It is NOT
When I first heard this story a few years ago and got to the part about the daily binge drinking, I felt that alcohol was the main villain in this tragedy. You make bad decisions and pt yourself and others in danger like binge drinking with strangers.
Yup, and because it was such a part of their lives, the family owned that big liquor store in Greenwich, people accepted that party lifestyle they led.
@Puma Lyn Agreed. I've seen people turn really nasty when they've had too much to drink. It's both distressing and confusing. There's a complete personality change. I know my limits.
@@elizagrogan9454 Very true. I used to drink alone at home or sit alone at the cafeteria downstairs. I used to observe people whom I know having a drink with friends and it always amazes me how they change. Some laugh for no reason whatsoever, some look at their phones and get angry whilst others get sentimental. The best way is to know when to stop. I've noticed that some people tend to consume more alcohol when someone else is paying the bill. 🤦🏾♀️😄
I appreciate your calm respectful tone and analysis on your shows. Someone had died and there are questions. To me it is also important to know that person has a family or friends who are grieving.
She had to be taken by Wheelchair to her cabin WTAF I have been drinking for 50 effing years…never happened to me…they were obviously on DRUGS …..and having sex with random strangers! Crazy!
Whoa…..just got to the part where she has to be taken to her room in a wheelchair but still keeps an 8.30 appointment in the spa! I’d have been in bed for 3 days if I was that drunk! Who does that and what’s your secret?
I wondered about that too. Maybe she always got up at 7 am or something. Sometimes if you're a person who stays tightly on a routine, you just automatically wake up.
Exactly, who can get wheeled into a room, deposited into bed and be up bright and early within a few hours. No one I have known. Ever. Sure like to know her secret to ultimate hang over. I'm sure many ppl would. Just whole story is sketchy from time the two honey mooners boarded the ship. And who goes on a honeymoon and their new husband sleeps in another's cabin. JS! Slept from the beginning. Awesome presentation ofva story, as usual. Thanks Kevin.
You're my favorite true crime channel. Thanks for the way you inform about the cases. No blahing, no going around the bushes. Just valuable information.
i think it was just a normal american style insurance case..she hired men to kill his husband for insurance..if not because of millions of insurance nobody would kill their better half
I truly think they were drugged. The wife didn't remember passing out in the hall or being taken back to her room? I have never blacked out and not remembered anything drinking, but the one time I did black out, I was roofied. It would have been a perfect way for those guys to rob them. I think that the robbery didn't go as planned, he fought harder than they thought he would be able to. They panicked and pushed him overboard. You have the deputy that was in the room next door. And there's the Josh guy who plead the fifth to all questions. This isn't a mystery.
Hi Kevin. I always enjoy listening to your voice as you present these sad hurtful cases. Something about your gentle voice makes it easier to listen to the facts. Thank You. Take Care, Stay Safe .
I completely agree, his voice is very relaxing to listen to, which, coupled with the fact that its a murder case, presents a dichotomy my brain particularly enjoys. His sharing of information pertinent to the case, without focusing unnecessarily on the horrific, often times lurid, details not central to the story itself, (the way many other true crime channels choose to) is in itself, very much appreciated, as well.
I can't imagine losing my new husband and life partner - while on our honeymoon. I feel more for the family than the widow. They can't even bury him. Damn. For years, I thought about going on a cruise instead of taking "regular" flight & land vacations. Just never got around to it. In the past 5 or 6 years, I've seen enough of this type of video that I never will get on a cruise. Too much can get in the way of an investigation if something happens.
Good Lord man. You take the extreme examples of some tragedies and convince yourself this is the norm. You are wrong. Cruising is great fun and you are missing out on some great experiences.
your loss. cruises are fun. if you mind ur surroundings and alcohol consumption it can be the vacation of a lifetime. people aren’t just plucked out of obscurity, there’s context to certain situations but just like any vacation conduct urself like a responsible adult and you have little to worry about.
She was most likely still drunk in the morning, plus they stated he had crashed at another friend's cabin earlier in the week because he had been too drunk to make it to his. I wanna know if the crew that brought her back to the cabin (passed out in a wheelchair) at 5 in the morning had noticed if the room had been ransacked. That part didn't make sense to me.
The question in murder is who benefits the most. The motives for murder break down to sex, money/greed, and the need to escape/not get caught. With this in mind, and that Jennifer's keycard wasn't used to enter the suite, the most likely suspects are the three guys. Firstly, they weren't averse to doing illegal activities - the first indicator in this story being sneaking liquor onto the ship. Yes, a small thing, but an indicator of character. Their taking the fifth doesn't advance their case for innocence. The one guy serving time for drugs in a further indication of his willingness to be involved with drugs. His throwing shade on Jennifer is a classic misdirection, contraindicated by Jennifer's drugged state and lack of entry into the room in the time frame. I think the most likely scenario is that Jennifer and George were targeted. (It is somewhat strange that 3 young guys would be on this sort of cruise, as these long and expensive cruises are usually for the newly wed and the nearly dead. Young men on vacation are usually looking to get laid, a cheap and short party cruise being a more likely venue). The couple was drugged, one way or another by these three. Jennifer wasn't around and George was passed out. George roused to find these three going through the room and stealing his expensive watch off his wrist. A fight broke out and George was purposefully thrown overboard. Cruise ships are notorious for covering up assaults and murders, which are more common than many people think. The three got lucky, and as long as they hang together, there is little that can be done. Suspicion does not make a conviction. As for Jennifer? Maybe she's superficial. She's a beautiful woman. She probably met, (or already knew) a wealthy/suitable man quite quickly after George's death and has gone on to spend her time raising her family and doing charity work. Even George's family doesn't think she had anything to do with it, and are just hurt she moved on so quickly.
Your comment sounds like the best wrap up of the whole case…. Not that I think their marriage stood a chance with the wife being so superficial and the husband being quite happy to drink and get drugged up with a bunch of new friends - on his honeymoon. (Sorry to the Smith family but your son was not an angel.)
@@johndolph131 It's not a matter of being able to afford the cruise. Most young people want to hang out and party with other young people. Most single people prefer to hang with other single people and in this case, most newlyweds aren't extremely welcoming to having strangers hanging around them. It's weird that they'd go on this sort of cruise.
how many cruises have you been on? i’ve been on plenty as a single guy who wound up ending up hanging out with couples who are married. If you’re on the cruise for 10 days you see these people all the time, most people don’t just keep to themselves and not interact with others. i see nothing wrong with young guys hanging out with a married couple who was also young the fact that you find that odd is just weird. You sound like someone who goes out and refuses to talk to anyone…
A great life? He was a drunk. Didn’t care about his new wife. And is reckless staying that late with strangers under the influence Dude had it coming. I would have been in bed with my wife having fun. Would have slept. Have fun had food. Would have been alive. They already showed signs of being a wreck. Like most every person on earth. Not saying he should have died. Yet you do dumb stuff. Dumb stuff happens
I'm new to this channel, and I've binge watched quite a few videos already. This channel has the most intriguing cases I've come across on any RUclips crime channel, absolutely dope!
I've seen this case covered on several other channels, but wanted to check out your channel. My heart goes out to George's parents and sister. I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but Jennifer came across as a bit superficial, which could account for how she was able to just move on after a few months. His parents have obviously known him since before he was born and his sister has known him almost her entire life. The not knowing would be unbearable. Very well done coverage. It seems apparent that the guys threw him off, which is a horrific thought. 💔
I think those Russians, some who were pushing drugs murdered the guy, ask for Jennifer I don't think she was in love with the guy, drinking and on prescription drugs probably did not have a good marriage. It was probably easy for her to move on.
@L K.C.Lifer I don't understand your comment, as it is worded oddly. I'm not saying that in a tit-for-tat way, although it is rather ironic. Maybe it was worded that way as a way to highlight my odd sentence? I don't know. I don't remember why I worded it that way, as I watched the video quite a while ago. It might have been in reference to the way his character was portrayed differently by the wife and his parents?
Great coverage on this case.. it’s such a perplexing case. I’ve researched this a lot and followed it when this happened in the media as well. The only thing that I noticed was the issue about the men ordering room service. It was proven that they never actually ordered anything from room service, nor was anything delivered. They claimed they did, but there was never actually any record of it on the ship. Which would leave them without an alibi whatsoever. At least from everything I’ve been able to dig up on this case. But anyway, great job, as usual! Such a tragic story. These men were clearly involved. Edit: I just made it to the end part of the video where you cover that part;) never mind 😅 I’ll just leave this here for the algorithm anyway lol
I love that you share stories that do not have a solid ending. I find myself, as do other subscribers, sharing their educated hypotheses and we all know the true crime community is loaded with some great moonlighting detectives.
"She was not concerned about her husband's whereabouts." The wife wakes up the next morning, and her husband is not laying next to her, and she didn't care? And they just got married, and this is their honeymoon??? And they both separated from each other a lot on this cruise ship, to spend time with complete strangers, not each other? Wtf??? 😮🤦🤦🤦
My ex would have done this to me. He rather drink with strangers then sleep next to me. He would often disappear. I finally woke up and left. On another note the wife smiling during the interview is insane. She is a true narcissist.
I’ve seen this story done by a lot of different people, I think yours is the most comprehensive. You really do a stellar job diving into all the minutia.
Excellent Excellent narration of these videos. Cheers to you! One of the main reasons I keep watching these gripping true crime videos on this channel.
@@calamitiesagain7014 oh hey, my friend! So good to see you here! Are you going to watch the Behind Criminal Minds premier today at 12pm? Meet me in the live chat!
As will bereaved and sad families who are heartbroken and unable to admit that accidents can happen, especially at sea when drink, drugs and illicit sex are involved…and just for good measure ..gambling too.
@@Tamara-id1pe I’ve seen other videos and it seems she was flirting and the other guys were hitting on her. She was very attractive and they were all drinking too much. I think she slept with another guy. The husband got in a fight and ended up overboard
It’s fairly obvious that if the Turkish authorities and the Royal Caribbean cruise lines really wanted to solve this case it would’ve been solved. Royal Caribbean was obviously only concerned about how the publicity affected their business and the Turkish authorities probably could give a rip about the death of a foreigner. Heck, even I know you don’t interrogate all four of those guys together if your serious about the investigation.
Damn, Kevin, you knocked it out of the ballpark AGAIN!!! You do an amazing job. Thanks for your consistency and hard work. You keep us all coming back for sure!!!
It sounds like they were drugged to make robbing them possible, George was undressed because "he'd been put to bed drunk" propped up on the railing then they'd let him fall after stealing his watch. It'd be interesting to see if that watch ever turned up once the guys got home; but if they knew they were suspected on the ship, it could have been thrown overboard too. Then Gregory, he had a big mouth and enjoyed the spotlight of being questioned, so he could have been killed to prevent him putting the others in prison at some stage. If,if, if....... it's tragic that it will probably remain unsolved.
@@braziliangator I got the impression that the guys who were with George enjoyed messing with people, George was obviously wealthy, on his honeymoon with a beautiful wife & was vulnerable. With no friends of his own to support him, I think he was like a wounded gazelle amongst jackals. Maybe that's what it comes down to?. The watch may have been a trophy the leader of the group took as a keepsake or to sell since it was expensive. George didn't have a chance with people like this around him. His wife is lucky she made it off the ship safely, since on the night George disappeared she was behaving as if she'd been drugged.
In my opinion he was murdered because he caught his wife with another guy there was a scuffle in the room and he was pushed off of the balcony. That seems to be the most plausible situation at this point.
Not really tragic when u act like a stupid drunk. I would have been rolling in the sheets with my new wife and been alive ( of course given she didn’t want to kill me 😂 )
Love your channel. Cases that make you think is best way to describe this channel. Excellent info. Pat brown the profiler mentioned your channel so that’s how and why I found you.
Oh great! Glad to have you here. Yes, I remember that we used some clips of Pat's in our Andrea Cincotta video so wondering if that's how she heard of us. What video did she mention us in? I'll have to go check it out.
She passed out drunk at 4am but was able to go to a 8Am spa appointment???? I find that very suspect! She is either an alcoholic or proses liquor extremely fast, Unless she went to her appointment drunk which should be in the detective report from interviews of spa attendants
Completely agree!! I just posted the same thing before I saw your comment. To me.. there is just absolutely no way that you are so drunk that people have to wheel you to your room on a wheelchair and then you wake up and go to the spa? This case is so crazy. Very tragic.
Who says it isn't? Do you honestly think they didn't interview the spa workers to make sure she was there? They obviously did or it wouldn't have been confirmed as her being there. And maybe you can't get up a few hours after being stupid drunk but plenty of people do it and do whatever they have to do, either wildly hungover or ma6be still somewhat intoxicated. That's basically how I spent my 20s. Just because every tiny detail isn't mentioned here doesn't mean it wasn't part of the investigation. And the police aren't taking her word for it that she was so drunk she had to be carried back to her room, that came from the employees. So your theory is that absolutely everybody is lying to cover for her, even random cruise ship employees who don't know her at all and don't care what happens to her?
In my twenties I was able to stay up drinking, pass out, then get up two hours later to head to work. Then do it all again the next day. Just saying 🤷♀️
I discovered your channel today & I have been binge watching all night & have already subscribed. I've always been a fan of crime shows, channels, podcasts, and documentaries but the majority of them are poor narrators, who interject with a lot of their own opinions, and who do not make good use of time in presenting the story. I love the way you narrate these cases in such an organized, non repetitive way, unbiased, just stating the facts without leaving anything important out, and all in just 30 mins. Additionally, the quality and editing of your videos are superb. I already shared your channel with all my friends who are crime show junkies because I know they will love this channel. Good luck and much success; keep going 😊🤗👍
I have taken numerous cruises and have never been worried about going overboard. If you are on a cruise do NOT get inebriated and you will not get yourself into trouble.
Been with you from the start n you've grown so much you delivery these cases with so much professionalism and unbiased and so informative thanks Kevin u should be so much higher on the RUclips community x
Wife is a serious narcissist. Who looks very proud of herself for “outsmarting” everyone . Absinthe sounds horrid . They’re called spirits for a reason !
2005- Mickenos Greece - 26 year old George was missing on a cruise. Did he fall overboard? George was married to 25 year old Jennifer and joined on this fun cruise a few days after the wedding. There were blood droplets and blood stains in the balcony and in the living areas and foul play was suspected. Jennifer was drunk that night. Two months later Jennifer was not interested in finding out what happened to George.
That's such a strange case, probably too much alcohol and money are never a good cocktail. This case reminds me so much of another similar case, the disappearance of Amy Lynn Bradley on a Royal Caribbean cruise liner, same scenario regarding the lack of help and support into the case, and as of today it's never been solved. I personally hate those kind a huge cruise liner, in case of problems it's always a huge issue between the Company owning the ship, the country where the incidents happen, everyone trying to push the problem to the others and nobody ready to take any kind of responsibility. That's a very tragic story where a family has been destroyed 🙏🙏🙏 Thanks a lot Kevin for this excellent video
Usually people DO meet new ppl on a cruise etc and feel I guess it's safe because there's "nowhere to go"? All I can think of, but usually they (should) stay together and safe.
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Yeah those dudes give off scammer vibes. I wouldn’t be surprised if they drugged them because I don’t know why a newly married couple would want to hang out with a group of guys. She definitely for the streets but I don’t think she was the one who killed him.
I think when George bragged about how much money they had, someone overheard it that did George harm. No better time than when George was very drunk. I think the three men trashed the room, trying to find the money. Maybe George didn't tell them where the money was, if there was any, and they threw him overboard. They didn't order anything from room service, that was a lie. Jennifer is a crap wife. RIP George.🌻 So very sad. I hope one day the family gets answers for closure.
I don't know if she was a crap wife or not, it seems like just a very bad marriage. Her husband's out being a heavy drinker while on prescription drugs, he was probably a mess a lot of the time.
@@powerboatguy2308 A bad marriage? They just got wed, there wasn't even time for developing a bad marriage! I'm in a relationship since 1997; if you want it to work out, you need to get to know one another before you take that step, lest you get blindsided. To me, she came across as an emotionless high-maintenance gold digger - she accepted that 1.1M settlement awfully fast, showing that she took "until death do us part" very literally.
Jennifer might be a crap wife same title or worse goes to the husband who gets drunk all the time and crashes out with friends rather than make sure his wife is OK.
It seems very strange to me being on a Honey-Moon trip and entering the cabin , not finding my husband and the next morning I 'm going to a Spa appointment, not being concerned about the welfare of my husband? This is very pelicular! It ś one thing being out and drinking heavily but the behaviour of his wife isn 't decent at all. What might have happened?
Wow. We may never know. The family may never know. So unsettling. It’s insane that alcohols, which is legal, can shroud the memory of an event indefinitely. It’s also insane what some people are willing to do or say to cover up their greed and crimes. What a tragedy
As a lifelong cruiser the deck of every cruiseline is often filled with drunk passengers stumbling about in various states of disorientation . There is a reason las vegas casinoes doesnt have balcony. A disoriented and drunk person stumbles, climbs, and fall over a balcony into water and everyone is trying to invent a conspiracy. Drunks have been falling over balconys on dry land forever, the only thing diff here is that it happened at sea. A drunk wife, girlfriend flirting or hooking up with crew has been known to happen. Not a big deal. Not sure how that leads to murder since such hook ups usually happen in crew quarters and not guest quarters where the husband will be. If a crew member already slept with his wife, why would he harm d passengers husband? The other 4 russian dudes were just immature dudes happy to hang out with an older man for a night of parting and drinking. The smiths family inability to accept thier sons death is normal. Denial and looking for someone to blame for freakish random misfortune is part of the grieving process.
Since the alibi did not add up and there was blood everywhere and the room was cleaned up right away all points to foul play. Where is the outside footage!! If there is a man overboard an alarm should go off instantly!
Cruises are dangerous. And because many of these crimes occur in international waters, very hard to prosecute. I still can’t wrap my head around the young lady who simply vanished while on a cruise with her parents and brother. Just disappeared from right under their noses. And there is very strong evidence due to reputable witnesses having seen her that she had been trafficked, but to this day hasn’t been found.
Thanks, Kevin. It seems likely that George's disappearance/accident/murder will never be solved, due to lack of evidence. As for cruise liners, I've no idea why anyone would wish to go on a floating hotel for a holiday! Ugh!! RIP, George🥀🥀🥀
Yes, I agree with you, why anyone would want to go on a floating hotel and gambling joint for a holiday, the thought of all those drunk people makes me feel sick, and all that noise
It's like going on a holiday with your drunken, rowdy neighbors. These floating buildings are horrible, and really bad pollutants too and should be consigned to the dustbin of history. I think George was in a drunken stupor and unfortunately forgot where he was. It's tragic.
Is this girl saying she woke up and left the room in that condition to go to the spa?!? Terrible… his wife seems a lil shady to me… and his body never washed up?? That’s odd
At 1st I thought it’s the wife, but I think she was just out partying & doing whatever. That Russian group, I think it’s them. Then when that guy got out of prison, they got him too.
Who goes on a morning spa session when you don't know where your new husband has been since the night before? Your husband isn't there so you don't search for him or raise alarm?
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The heartless men who were recorded saying they gave George a gliding lesson without the glider obviously threw him overboard while he was alive, presumably covering the robbery. How horrific.
if you kill him, can you cover a robbery? wouldn't they have searched their room for the watch for instance, even if that cash was invented..
Why didn't his NEW WIFE look for him the next morning but instead was getting a massage? I mean, isn't that weird to anyone? She woke up, her husband wasn't there but she didn't bother to look for him??
@@ronnynoneofyourbusinessgoo7892 They robbed him thinking he was unconscious. There was a struggle when he regained consciousness and they killed him. The drops of blood are from when they took his watch. If there was cash/jewelry they stole it after trashing the room. The wife's behavior is very off.How did she not notice the condition of the room? She went to her massage appointment 3 hours early.
@@whodat84the narrator said it wasn’t unusual because the husband had crashed at a friends room two nights before so she assumed he did it again
@@kylekoester3085 The word "friend" is a stretch for someone you just met on a boat. But you are correct it did appear that these two were acting fast and lose with themselves and strangers.
I pray for peace for his family. It's a tough loss in what should have been a joyful occasion.
The fact she was at the massage at 8am not knowing where he was and the room looking like that is WILD. She didn't see the blood????
She knew where he was.
@@IslaSkye123But the messy room!!!!
Up for a spa after being 💩 faced blotto and carted off in a wheel chair a couple of hours earlier??? That must have taken super human effort. And yes, the state of the room?? All very fishy. Poor George. Why do people have to drink until they are incapacitated?? Is that really their idea of fun???
Her only response retelling the story (somehow it cuts to the boat stupidly when I am processing her microexpressions) is anger. Severe anger. It's her. Obviously. I know you cant use that in court but people are so clueless, it's sad. And before that I was like 3rd grad teacher, okay, it's not her.
@@jessicaellina3878 She didnt want to see the guys, who she let run a train on her, dispose of his body.
Detective work 101, keep all suspects separate when questioning them, so they don’t know what the other suspects have said
Ikr?! Where did whomever get their training, or reasoning?!
Yeah, I strongly believe that they did that intentionally. They wanted to brush it under the rug ASAP. The end.
Exactly! 💯
That's how you know the cruise line was resigned to never find the guy. They probably already had video footage of one of their own going into the room. They probably squashed it because of the scandal of having one of their own be a murderer.
i dbelive it was a greek investigation (mykanos right) but narrator says turkish...
Investigation was botched as soon as they conducted a 'group interview' with those young guys early on instead of interviewing each separately. Had they interviewed them separately, they could have put to use very effective interview tactics that are designed to play them against each other until someone confesses either out of fear of being blamed or the fear of taking the fall for everyone else involved. This case is an eye opener for people who board cruise ships.
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Cruise ships must develop policies to deal with violent crimes on board. It’s not like the first time something like this has happened. And doing a botched investigation and coverup is not good for business . Besides being morally the wrong thing to do
How stupid to go on a cruise and get drunk or use drugs. You could get drunk at home. Why waste your money on a cruise ticket 😁
Really.
I used to wonder same about people who get drunk or high to go to a rock concert.
actually, it was the cruise ship who rushed the Turkish police because they were on a wchedule dropping off and oicking up passengers. Several statements were made about this or many other cases that cruise ships just wanna move on with their business.
Nothing good ever comes from getting so drunk you can’t remember what you’re doing!
My son disagrees.
@@RollinTrollin good luck to him and his liver
Nothing good happens after 2am.
Alcohol is your worst enemy.
Don't let alcohol dictate your life. You'll have tons of regrets at the end.
Yep. Gonna say. Kinda was open to dumb stuff happening.
I would have been rolling around in bed with my wife. Eating. Watching tv. Making more love and getting sleep. To repeat the next day. I would have been fine and had fun 😂
Few people realize how dangerous cruise ships are. MANY people go "missing" on cruises with no seeming explanation. A couple of years ago, 60 Minutes Australia did an expose of the Cruise Line Business. They discovered that on average one passenger per month "disappears" from a cruise ship somewhere in the World. They interviewed the former Chief Security Officer of a Cruise Line incognito who said that when you put a 1000 people on a boat in the middle of the ocean with an unlimited supply of alcohol, lots of Bad Things will inevitably happen. Many tourists fall overboard while drunk simply because walkways are narrow and they have no "sea legs". He said that assaults and rapes are common, and that some ship personnel even rape women passengers in their rooms. He said that much of this is hushed up with Pay Off money by the Cruise Line itself.
The TRUTH about Smith's "disappearance" will never be known simply because it appears that Everyone involved was TOO Drunk to even remember The TRUTH. In other words, they were typical Cruise Line passengers.
I've always thought of Cruise Ship vacations as being Absurd myself. I call them "Boat Rides to Nowhere" because most cruises end at the port where they begin. Somehow, being drunk 24/7 while stuck on a ship full of strangers never sounded like fun to me.
Lol... you just wrote exactly what I've always thought! When I was a child - 1970 - we immigrated from the UK to the USA on the QEII. Even though we had a destination I found it boring and tedious.
@@Noogsie_47245 I could see incoming immigrant ships being a portal for human trafficking. I had never thought of that before!
What you wrote makes so much sense to me. And cruises seem to attract people who dream of a fairy tale; tv and silly movies seem to leave their marks on many.
I was at sea on Merchant ships for nigh on 17 years.... I loved the life...the peace and the tranquility is something that is unique.
However! The thought of going on a cruise liner...plastic palaces... would fill me with dread.... the possibility for disasters is immense....as per Costa Concordia.... being surrounded by people with nothing more to do than self indulge either with food or alcohol is completely abhorrent to me. (And I enjoy my beer!)
I refuse to ever go on a cruise for this reason.
I have no idea what happened to George but I must say that the thought of having a honeymoon where the husband and wife pretty much go their separate ways is not my idea of a honeymoon. If they preferred the company of other people, why on earth did they get married? When I got married, 976 years ago, I really wanted to spend my honeymoon with my husband. But maybe that's just me.
976 years ago! That made me laugh. Is that how long it feels??? :)
@@sukijay4990 I think it's actually more indicative of how old I feel rather than being an indicator of how long it feels since I got married! I have only one regret about my marriage and that is that we did not meet and get married about a decade earlier so we would have had more time together. My husband died almost 15 years ago and I guess the time since he died seems like a LONG time. We were married for a little over 30 years and right up to the day he died I would rather spend my time with him than with anyone else so it just is strange to me to think that a young couple who are literally on their honeymoon chose to spend time with others. I don't understand!
@@maryannanderson2213 I’m sorry for your loss Maryann. It’s hard to lose any loved one, but when it’s your life partner and loyal friend, someone you have spent every day with and shared so much, that is even more devastating, I hope you have managed to create a full and happy life without him. I’m lucky enough to still have my husband and we have been together for 48 years all told, 45 of them married. I agree, it would have been strange not to have spent our honeymoon enjoying ourselves together, and the fact that the couple in this story were getting up to all sorts of drunken shenanigans separately wasn’t a good indication of a partnership that would have survived even if tragedy hadn’t separated them.
EXACTLYYYYYY
I would have been rolling around in the sheets with my. Ex wife. Yet she seems like the crazy type you wouldn’t want to be with long term ..
@@maryannanderson2213 I'm so very sorry for your loss. You had a great love.
So weird that these two go on Honeymoon to only sleep in different cabins, get wasted, and/or pass out drunk in a hallway. Call me old fashion but that doesn't sound like fun to me.
I know
Perhaps they were swingers, or at least she was. 🤮
Live a defensive life. Avoid friends or situations that would end up complicating your lives. Don't drink to the point you lose self-control. Especially around strangers.
This 3 guys know what happened, it was not an accident, very sad 😢 my condolences for his family 💔🙏
Yep.
Never show off your wealth. We lived in a nice little town that we both loved. We did okay for ourselves, managed to save quite a bit every month. We didn't wear fancy clothes and didn't drive flashy cars. We were out one night, came home and discovered our house had been broken into. Long story short, they caught the guys who did it, and one of them sung like a canary. He said they heard we had a safe stuffed full of cash, so the plan was to tie us up and scare us into open it. They brought a handgun with them to do this.
I’m glad you weren’t home! I think of my life in my 20’s and 30’s and the chances I took! Very fortunate that I survived, and the chances I took were mild compared to some…
Don’t fuck with the sea.
"we gave him a paragliding lesson without a glider" is enough of a statement to arrest and charge that guy. End of story.
I agree, and am shocked that federal officials did not see that the compendium of evidence points to their guilt, at least enough to be adjudicated in court. Bringing charges on all of them, would pressure each to provide more testimony. The FBI and Justice Dept. have the authority to act on matters at sea, or even in foreign territorial waters, if the victim and/or suspected perpetrator(s) are U.S. citizens, particularly in the absence of actions by other authorities.
The 'execution' of Greg Rosenberg is quite possibly an indication of Smith being murdered, and shows that the FBI/Justice Dept. have failed in this case.
Gossip does not count as evidence…in civilised western countries.
Ok detective 😂
@@eileencalder2804It does sometimes actually.
I wonder if Jennifer noticed how messy the cabin looked when she got up! If you left your room in a tidy state, shouldn't you be worried if a) the place is a mess and b) your husband isn't there?
Yeah I would Immediately look for anything I considered valuable.
She probably thought she did it herself. I drink a fair bit, but I've never been put in a wheelchair and wheeled to bed by security guards!
She might have been used to that if they both did a lot of drinking or he did.
She's guilty
That is IF she'd left the room tidy, which she may not have. Those cabins are tiny and start to look messy really quick. She also may have noticed a bit more mess but thought her husband had been digging around, getting dressed and looking for things before he left that morning, which was what she assumed. Also, you need to factor in seeing this through a huge hangover, if not still somewhat intoxicated. Remember that she was loaded enough to pass out in the hallway in the early morning hours, enough that she had to be carried back to her room. She then got up and left less than 4 hours later. I'm not sure how much you've drank before but when you get up and have to be somewhere pretty quick in that state, you're more focused on not puking on your feet or figuring out how to make your head stop pounding than anything like some added mess to your room.
Her smirking during the interviews and lack of emotion speaks volumes. She may or may not have been involved but clearly based on her behavior really didn't give two 💩 about her husband! Callous 😢
Dupers delight all over that face
Yeah, I agree. Not to mention flirting with other men openly in front of him.. she's almost certainly the "mastermind" behind his disappearance.
She's a total nutjob .. she could give a f less.. she only cares about herself, he was fooled.
Plus she looks like she s 51
@@mariamaria2751 no, she doesn't 😂
It would be devastating to lose a child and never know exactly how, or where they are... so sad for the parents and sister 😢
Yes it is! My dear brother was at work offshore & there was an explosion after a gas line was “accidentally” hit by the rig he worked on. He & the coworker he tried to save were never found. That day changed my 50 year old loving mom forever. She never recovered emotionally & became physically ill. So yes, it’s horrible for a parent. My dad simply exists now. I love & miss you mom……Jr I miss you too. Forever my hero.😭😔🥀💔
@@mom2babygkaterad946Sorry to hear that. Your poor mom. 🙏🏻
@AVSgirl1985: The parents and the sister here are sad because they choose to be sad. People who go on grieving for a "loved one" for more than 2 years are mentally ill and should be referred to professional psychiatric services to help them stop living in the past and to start looking to the future. The wife here quickly moved on because she is NOT Mentally Ill with grief as were her in-laws. The wife is the most mentally healthy person in this story because she just accepted a settlement and moved on with her life. The parents and the sister here are sad because they choose to be sad. "Closure" is an "inside job". It happens when you come to a resolution inside of you, regardless of what's happening in the outside World. If True Crime producers REALLY Cared about the grieving families, they would compassionately guide them to professional help, rather than exploiting their grief in front of a TV Camera for a Lousy Dollar !!!
@@JosephKulik2016well let’s see how you handle a mysterious death of a child.You speak so confidently like you have done insider knowledge no one else is privy to! You say 2 years is acceptable but more is psychotic, I agree the parents and sister would benefit from counselling to help with their loss - but you’re sanctimonious and full of your own arrogance
@@JosephKulik2016 unbelievable!! When you lose someone you love in any circumstances it's called grief, you grieve for what you had, what would have been, you long for that person. There's no time limit on how long this takes especially when it's your child & even more so when they have no grave to mourn, no answers to who was responsible. They're not mentally ill, they didn't choose to have this happen or to feel this way. They're grieving.. as for the new wifey moving on so quickly after this happening that says more about her than them, just my opinion.
I don't know about you guys, but if I was told my husband had gone overboard, I would be so distressed and would be screaming for the Captain to stop the effing boat. I would go overboard myself in my panic to find and rescue my husband. I don't know how Jennifer looked so calm during her husband's disappearance. Those teen boys are shady AF and I think they did it.
Jennifer looked happy that her indiscretions might remain a secret.
Most normal ppl would.
No you wouldn’t.
Those teens are the most likely suspects.
There was clearly something off about Jessica and therefore the relationship.
I enjoy the way you present the information in each case and I respect your unbiased delivery. Thank you.
Thank YOU 😊
Agree
I always appreciate an unbiased perspective, which is sadly rare in the true crime community.
Uhhh, I had absinthe from there before and I walked 10 miles to find a bathroom and I had already peed myself.
@@sunshinemagicalrainbowunic4004 i hope you got a change of pants.
I remember this case indicating the wife being involved with someone who worked on the ship. It didn't sound like much of a honeymoon. It sounded bizarre. Such a shame George lost his life. Very sad story with no reason for what happened. I don't believe George was stupid enough, even if he'd been smashed, to climb up and over the balcony railing to plunge down to his death. No one would.
He was stupid enough to wear very expensive watch to go out drinking
@@kyleanuar9090 your stupid enough to judge others
Ummmm do you not remember when the man jumped overboard while intoxicated cause he thought the employees were discriminating towards him and his husband for being gay? Look it up. Being under the influence can cause people to be impulsive and irrational.
@@kyleanuar9090 honeymoon gift from his wife though. thats the one time you might
I in no way am blaming anyone. But if it is true that the couple. Was going around bragging about how much money. They had in their safe in their room. It made them easy prey for these men. I feel they were targeted. And I think he was killed. The cops were no help. As well as RC!! It’s really sad he seems like he was a good kid.
When the Russians said "end of story" repeatedly in that first interview is all I needed to hear.
The russian quando rondo
Killed by Russian bergs…
the police officer that was in the cabin next door said he heared someone say good night good night ... same speech patern
But they're Jewish Yanks, not Russians, just as Askins. 😂😂😂
Those 4 guys looked guilty as hell. Taking the fifth instead of helping and one going to jail shortly after....
The wife was more interested in her personal needs than her husband.
yeah exactly
Do some Americans have a problem when others avail of their constitutional rights? Maybe you want it taken away as it has been in the UK where availing of your right to silence can now be held against you in a criminal court? If you want to fuck about with your constitution abolish the 2nd…..No I didn’t really think so….. So then stop assuming taking the 5th is an admission or sign of guilt. It is NOT
Sure seems like those 3 guys threw him out the window to me…
When I first heard this story a few years ago and got to the part about the daily binge drinking, I felt that alcohol was the main villain in this tragedy. You make bad decisions and pt yourself and others in danger like binge drinking with strangers.
Yup, and because it was such a part of their lives, the family owned that big liquor store in Greenwich, people accepted that party lifestyle they led.
Exactly. Being drunk and gambling. I doubt he would have gone far in life had it not been for the family business.
@Puma Lyn Agreed. I've seen people turn really nasty when they've had too much to drink. It's both distressing and confusing. There's a complete personality change. I know my limits.
@@elizagrogan9454 Very true. I used to drink alone at home or sit alone at the cafeteria downstairs. I used to observe people whom I know having a drink with friends and it always amazes me how they change. Some laugh for no reason whatsoever, some look at their phones and get angry whilst others get sentimental.
The best way is to know when to stop. I've noticed that some people tend to consume more alcohol when someone else is paying the bill. 🤦🏾♀️😄
@@PumaLyn there is this thing called alcoholism in which some people cannot stop drinking even if they know their limits.
I appreciate your calm respectful tone and analysis on your shows. Someone had died and there are questions. To me it is also important to know that person has a family or friends who are grieving.
I find it weird that they're on their honeymoon and partying so hard they're just passing out in random rooms and hallways...to each their own I guess
She had to be taken by Wheelchair to her cabin WTAF I have been drinking for 50 effing years…never happened to me…they were obviously on DRUGS …..and having sex with random strangers! Crazy!
Whoa…..just got to the part where she has to be taken to her room in a wheelchair but still keeps an 8.30 appointment in the spa! I’d have been in bed for 3 days if I was that drunk! Who does that and what’s your secret?
I had the exact same thought.
I wondered about that too.
Maybe she always got up at 7 am or something. Sometimes if you're a person who stays tightly on a routine, you just automatically wake up.
The spa is perfect for a hangover
Exactly, who can get wheeled into a room, deposited into bed and be up bright and early within a few hours. No one I have known. Ever. Sure like to know her secret to ultimate hang over. I'm sure many ppl would. Just whole story is sketchy from time the two honey mooners boarded the ship. And who goes on a honeymoon and their new husband sleeps in another's cabin. JS! Slept from the beginning. Awesome presentation ofva story, as usual. Thanks Kevin.
completely normal for an alcoholic.
I was really surprised to hear the widow moved on, got remarried and has a family... NOT... I think she started the moving on process on the honeymoon
You're my favorite true crime channel.
Thanks for the way you inform about the cases.
No blahing, no going around the bushes.
Just valuable information.
It is me or is virtually everyone in this story rude, sleazy or criminal (except the victim)? Probably why I'll never be on a cruise of this kind.
This was an excellent dive into this case. I believe it was a robbery and the 4 guys know what happened.
I think so too. Didn’t one die recently?
@@samanthab1923 yeah one was shot in his car in his driveway. Drug related they said.
@@kylieh123 I always got the feeling they were some kind of low level Russian mobsters.
@@samanthab1923 I absolutely did too. They weren't just normal guys on a cruise, they were definitely shady
i think it was just a normal american style insurance case..she hired men to kill his husband for insurance..if not because of millions of insurance nobody would kill their better half
I truly think they were drugged. The wife didn't remember passing out in the hall or being taken back to her room? I have never blacked out and not remembered anything drinking, but the one time I did black out, I was roofied. It would have been a perfect way for those guys to rob them. I think that the robbery didn't go as planned, he fought harder than they thought he would be able to. They panicked and pushed him overboard. You have the deputy that was in the room next door. And there's the Josh guy who plead the fifth to all questions. This isn't a mystery.
Agree. The guys look guilty as hell
Agreed. This wasn’t some accident. He was injured in the room during a struggle before going over. Someone brought him out there.
You don't drink with strangers
@@mzuribeauty4287 Exactly!
It may not have even been a robbery. They may have gotten into a fight.
Hi Kevin. I always enjoy listening to your voice as you present these sad hurtful cases. Something about your gentle voice makes it easier to listen to the facts. Thank You. Take Care, Stay Safe .
Thanks Hellen! Glad you’re enjoying the channel
I completely agree, his voice is very relaxing to listen to, which, coupled with the fact that its a murder case, presents a dichotomy my brain particularly enjoys. His sharing of information pertinent to the case, without focusing unnecessarily on the horrific, often times lurid, details not central to the story itself, (the way many other true crime channels choose to) is in itself, very much appreciated, as well.
I can't imagine losing my new husband and life partner - while on our honeymoon. I feel more for the family than the widow. They can't even bury him. Damn. For years, I thought about going on a cruise instead of taking "regular" flight & land vacations. Just never got around to it. In the past 5 or 6 years, I've seen enough of this type of video that I never will get on a cruise. Too much can get in the way of an investigation if something happens.
Good Lord man. You take the extreme examples of some tragedies and convince yourself this is the norm. You are wrong. Cruising is great fun and you are missing out on some great experiences.
The number of murders or missing people on cruises is astounding...I'm shocked that people still go
@@DrineThePoetPeople get killed in car accidents way more than in cruises. Everything has risks.
your loss. cruises are fun. if you mind ur surroundings and alcohol consumption it can be the vacation of a lifetime. people aren’t just plucked out of obscurity, there’s context to certain situations but just like any vacation conduct urself like a responsible adult and you have little to worry about.
@@sevencharley My loss, your opinion, and that's ok.
She went to the spa in the morning and wasn’t looking for her husband?!
Weird.
Exactly my thought
She was most likely still drunk in the morning, plus they stated he had crashed at another friend's cabin earlier in the week because he had been too drunk to make it to his.
I wanna know if the crew that brought her back to the cabin (passed out in a wheelchair) at 5 in the morning had noticed if the room had been ransacked. That part didn't make sense to me.
@@heatherhiggins2002 No they said the room was clean and the windows/curtains closed
That's because she was involved. And a very dumb girl
I’m SO glad I’ve NEVER even had a thought about going on a cruise.
Mmm my idea of hell too.
The question in murder is who benefits the most. The motives for murder break down to sex, money/greed, and the need to escape/not get caught. With this in mind, and that Jennifer's keycard wasn't used to enter the suite, the most likely suspects are the three guys. Firstly, they weren't averse to doing illegal activities - the first indicator in this story being sneaking liquor onto the ship. Yes, a small thing, but an indicator of character. Their taking the fifth doesn't advance their case for innocence. The one guy serving time for drugs in a further indication of his willingness to be involved with drugs. His throwing shade on Jennifer is a classic misdirection, contraindicated by Jennifer's drugged state and lack of entry into the room in the time frame.
I think the most likely scenario is that Jennifer and George were targeted. (It is somewhat strange that 3 young guys would be on this sort of cruise, as these long and expensive cruises are usually for the newly wed and the nearly dead. Young men on vacation are usually looking to get laid, a cheap and short party cruise being a more likely venue). The couple was drugged, one way or another by these three. Jennifer wasn't around and George was passed out. George roused to find these three going through the room and stealing his expensive watch off his wrist. A fight broke out and George was purposefully thrown overboard. Cruise ships are notorious for covering up assaults and murders, which are more common than many people think. The three got lucky, and as long as they hang together, there is little that can be done. Suspicion does not make a conviction.
As for Jennifer? Maybe she's superficial. She's a beautiful woman. She probably met, (or already knew) a wealthy/suitable man quite quickly after George's death and has gone on to spend her time raising her family and doing charity work. Even George's family doesn't think she had anything to do with it, and are just hurt she moved on so quickly.
Your comment sounds like the best wrap up of the whole case…. Not that I think their marriage stood a chance with the wife being so superficial and the husband being quite happy to drink and get drugged up with a bunch of new friends - on his honeymoon. (Sorry to the Smith family but your son was not an angel.)
the 3 russian kids families had a lot of money that’s why they were able to go on this cruise
@@johndolph131 It's not a matter of being able to afford the cruise. Most young people want to hang out and party with other young people. Most single people prefer to hang with other single people and in this case, most newlyweds aren't extremely welcoming to having strangers hanging around them.
It's weird that they'd go on this sort of cruise.
how many cruises have you been on? i’ve been on plenty as a single guy who wound up ending up hanging out with couples who are married. If you’re on the cruise for 10 days you see these people all the time, most people don’t just keep to themselves and not interact with others. i see nothing wrong with young guys hanging out with a married couple who was also young the fact that you find that odd is just weird. You sound like someone who goes out and refuses to talk to anyone…
very rational thoughts and my logic agrees with you but my instict/emotions find her guilty
Greg speaks up and seems so sincere and look what happens to him... Just heartbreaking
Pls what happened to him?
He was murdered in 2019.
What? He was lying. Karma is a bitch
@@zizouzus how was he lying?
Personally, I can't think of a worse way to celebrate a wedding.
Yep…
Whoa not rolling in the sheets with some food and tv in between is beyond me. Guess I’m boring that sex does it for me
Yup yup, drink in your own room and dont trust strangers thats it
LOL...we went on a cruise for our honeymoon 31 years ago. We stayed in our country, and it was the Big Red Boat (Disney). It was fun. ☺
I agree, I didn’t like it so much, I’d rather be at a resort. It’s nice if you have kids but a honeymoon sounds awful
This is so sad and scary. You can disappear with blood evidence left behind and noone will ever know what happened. I feel for his family. :/
*no one
What a handsome young man with a great life in front of him. So horrible. His poor family. Going on a drunk honeymoon is definitely not a good idea.
A great life? He was a drunk. Didn’t care about his new wife. And is reckless staying that late with strangers under the influence
Dude had it coming. I would have been in bed with my wife having fun. Would have slept. Have fun had food. Would have been alive.
They already showed signs of being a wreck. Like most every person on earth.
Not saying he should have died. Yet you do dumb stuff. Dumb stuff happens
@@ssing7113 nasty comment to put it politely. He was someone’s son. She appeared to have been less than heart broken.
Handsome but no brains ....
Absolutely it happens all the time. He made the wrong choice and he got with the wrong woman and it cost him his life
@@ssing7113 Could have been the opposite - she didn't seem to care about him - her comment about moving on two months later ...
I'm new to this channel, and I've binge watched quite a few videos already. This channel has the most intriguing cases I've come across on any RUclips crime channel, absolutely dope!
I've seen this case covered on several other channels, but wanted to check out your channel. My heart goes out to George's parents and sister. I'm sorry if I'm wrong, but Jennifer came across as a bit superficial, which could account for how she was able to just move on after a few months. His parents have obviously known him since before he was born and his sister has known him almost her entire life. The not knowing would be unbearable.
Very well done coverage. It seems apparent that the guys threw him off, which is a horrific thought. 💔
I think those Russians, some who were pushing drugs murdered the guy, ask for Jennifer I don't think she was in love with the guy, drinking and on prescription drugs probably did not have a good marriage. It was probably easy for her to move on.
Just look at her! I'm 51 and I look younger than her... too much sun, makeup and that high maintenance lifestyle makes women look haggard.
Your comment about the parents knowing their son was worded weirdly as for the sister.
@L K.C.Lifer I don't understand your comment, as it is worded oddly. I'm not saying that in a tit-for-tat way, although it is rather ironic. Maybe it was worded that way as a way to highlight my odd sentence? I don't know.
I don't remember why I worded it that way, as I watched the video quite a while ago. It might have been in reference to the way his character was portrayed differently by the wife and his parents?
The word " before" is the offender , it needs to be deleted then it sounds correct ! . . . Lol
Great coverage on this case.. it’s such a perplexing case. I’ve researched this a lot and followed it when this happened in the media as well. The only thing that I noticed was the issue about the men ordering room service. It was proven that they never actually ordered anything from room service, nor was anything delivered. They claimed they did, but there was never actually any record of it on the ship. Which would leave them without an alibi whatsoever. At least from everything I’ve been able to dig up on this case. But anyway, great job, as usual! Such a tragic story. These men were clearly involved.
Edit: I just made it to the end part of the video where you cover that part;) never mind 😅 I’ll just leave this here for the algorithm anyway lol
Thank you Kevin for shining a light on this crime story, great channel you have developed! God Bless you and your family.❤️🙏🇨🇦
I love that you share stories that do not have a solid ending. I find myself, as do other subscribers, sharing their educated hypotheses and we all know the true crime community is loaded with some great moonlighting detectives.
"She was not concerned about her husband's whereabouts." The wife wakes up the next morning, and her husband is not laying next to her, and she didn't care? And they just got married, and this is their honeymoon??? And they both separated from each other a lot on this cruise ship, to spend time with complete strangers, not each other? Wtf??? 😮🤦🤦🤦
My ex would have done this to me. He rather drink with strangers then sleep next to me. He would often disappear. I finally woke up and left.
On another note the wife smiling during the interview is insane. She is a true narcissist.
I’ve seen this story done by a lot of different people, I think yours is the most comprehensive. You really do a stellar job diving into all the minutia.
@written plauge. I agree! This is the best version I've seen!😎
Excellent Excellent narration of these videos. Cheers to you! One of the main reasons I keep watching these gripping true crime videos on this channel.
Well well, now.. Lookitchew cranking out a nice little Sunday upload! Thank you, Kevin.. We really do appreciate you!
We sure do !
@@calamitiesagain7014 oh hey, my friend! So good to see you here! Are you going to watch the Behind Criminal Minds premier today at 12pm? Meet me in the live chat!
The fact that she was awarded any of the 1.3 million dollars is infuriating.
Don’t forget, The cruise ship will protect their image no matter what!
As will bereaved and sad families who are heartbroken and unable to admit that accidents can happen, especially at sea when drink, drugs and illicit sex are involved…and just for good measure ..gambling too.
agree
Jennifer did not feel sad, distraught after the disappearance of George.
Something strange about Jennifer. Very sus.
Shes a horrible evil woman
She knows the truth.
She *was* happy about the $1.3 million settlement with the cruise line.
She’s very suspect: but the truth always comes out no matter how long it takes
The guys attacked him and threw him overboard . But her flirting and fooling around was what instigated the whole thing
How did her actions instigate this?
@@Tamara-id1pe I’ve seen other videos and it seems she was flirting and the other guys were hitting on her. She was very attractive and they were all drinking too much. I think she slept with another guy. The husband got in a fight and ended up overboard
@@christopherbaltazar473 and too much drinking by everyone
His wife was showing Dupping Delight!
@@christopherbaltazar473 well if you base relationships on looks alone you get what you bargained for .
It's so sad that George didn't get any justice.
It’s fairly obvious that if the Turkish authorities and the Royal Caribbean cruise lines really wanted to solve this case it would’ve been solved. Royal Caribbean was obviously only concerned about how the publicity affected their business and the Turkish authorities probably could give a rip about the death of a foreigner. Heck, even I know you don’t interrogate all four of those guys together if your serious about the investigation.
Some crimes are never solved.
@@JDCUSA I bet that number is higher when agencies in the 3rd world are investigating.
Great Channel. No Computer voices and AI generated Texts and Free-Stock Images. So refreshing and just being kind to your listeners Thank you.
Damn, Kevin, you knocked it out of the ballpark AGAIN!!! You do an amazing job. Thanks for your consistency and hard work. You keep us all coming back for sure!!!
I am so glad I stumbled across your channel, Kevin. Your presentation of true crime stories is the best I've seen on youtube. New sub!
Glad you found us as well. Welcome to the channel 👍🏻
,@@JustThoughtLounge, Thank you
It sounds like they were drugged to make robbing them possible, George was undressed because "he'd been put to bed drunk" propped up on the railing then they'd let him fall after stealing his watch. It'd be interesting to see if that watch ever turned up once the guys got home; but if they knew they were suspected on the ship, it could have been thrown overboard too. Then Gregory, he had a big mouth and enjoyed the spotlight of being questioned, so he could have been killed to prevent him putting the others in prison at some stage. If,if, if....... it's tragic that it will probably remain unsolved.
What did they rob??? Wouldn’t the wife know if some robbed them? Very strange!
@@braziliangator I got the impression that the guys who were with George enjoyed messing with people, George was obviously wealthy, on his honeymoon with a beautiful wife & was vulnerable. With no friends of his own to support him, I think he was like a wounded gazelle amongst jackals. Maybe that's what it comes down to?. The watch may have been a trophy the leader of the group took as a keepsake or to sell since it was expensive. George didn't have a chance with people like this around him. His wife is lucky she made it off the ship safely, since on the night George disappeared she was behaving as if she'd been drugged.
I've been on a 7 day cruise and was ready to leave after 2 days. I'd never do it again.
I had a trip like that to Las Vegas once.
It was definitely too long.
Remember short major media coverage when this happened. Appreciate that you provided more details.
In my opinion he was murdered because he caught his wife with another guy there was a scuffle in the room and he was pushed off of the balcony. That seems to be the most plausible situation at this point.
This was so tragic. Well done Kevin. I enjoy all your videos. Going to watch this one again!
Not really tragic when u act like a stupid drunk.
I would have been rolling in the sheets with my new wife and been alive ( of course given she didn’t want to kill me 😂 )
Love your channel. Cases that make you think is best way to describe this channel. Excellent info. Pat brown the profiler mentioned your channel so that’s how and why I found you.
Oh great! Glad to have you here. Yes, I remember that we used some clips of Pat's in our Andrea Cincotta video so wondering if that's how she heard of us. What video did she mention us in? I'll have to go check it out.
Thanks Kevin. This has always intrigued me
I love what you do...as a Criminal Justice worker all my Life I like to understand...the Why's and human behavior....great channel thanks 👍❤💞💃
She passed out drunk at 4am but was able to go to a 8Am spa appointment???? I find that very suspect! She is either an alcoholic or proses liquor extremely fast, Unless she went to her appointment drunk which should be in the detective report from interviews of spa attendants
Spot on! Very unlikely. The masseuse should have been interviewed.
Completely agree!! I just posted the same thing before I saw your comment. To me.. there is just absolutely no way that you are so drunk that people have to wheel you to your room on a wheelchair and then you wake up and go to the spa? This case is so crazy. Very tragic.
Not sure about this theory. When I pass out after drinking, I usually wake up 2hrs later completely able to get up and proceed with my day
Who says it isn't? Do you honestly think they didn't interview the spa workers to make sure she was there? They obviously did or it wouldn't have been confirmed as her being there. And maybe you can't get up a few hours after being stupid drunk but plenty of people do it and do whatever they have to do, either wildly hungover or ma6be still somewhat intoxicated. That's basically how I spent my 20s. Just because every tiny detail isn't mentioned here doesn't mean it wasn't part of the investigation. And the police aren't taking her word for it that she was so drunk she had to be carried back to her room, that came from the employees. So your theory is that absolutely everybody is lying to cover for her, even random cruise ship employees who don't know her at all and don't care what happens to her?
In my twenties I was able to stay up drinking, pass out, then get up two hours later to head to work. Then do it all again the next day. Just saying 🤷♀️
I discovered your channel today & I have been binge watching all night & have already subscribed. I've always been a fan of crime shows, channels, podcasts, and documentaries but the majority of them are poor narrators, who interject with a lot of their own opinions, and who do not make good use of time in presenting the story. I love the way you narrate these cases in such an organized, non repetitive way, unbiased, just stating the facts without leaving anything important out, and all in just 30 mins. Additionally, the quality and editing of your videos are superb. I already shared your channel with all my friends who are crime show junkies because I know they will love this channel. Good luck and much success; keep going 😊🤗👍
Thank you very much! Glad you found us. Binge away 😉
Great channel.
I think it's only Columbo who has managed to solve a murder case on a cruise ship 😄 you'd never catch me on one
Completely agree with you on both points 👍🏽
@@mariancounsellor ✊️
I LOVE cruises
@@susangilliam6400Really? Cruises are for old people who never found a good hobby.
Also agree!! 🇺🇸🇫🇷🇺🇸
I have taken numerous cruises and have never been worried about going overboard. If you are on a cruise do NOT get inebriated and you will not get yourself into trouble.
Been with you from the start n you've grown so much you delivery these cases with so much professionalism and unbiased and so informative thanks Kevin u should be so much higher on the RUclips community x
Wife is a serious narcissist. Who looks very proud of herself for “outsmarting” everyone . Absinthe sounds horrid . They’re called spirits for a reason !
2005- Mickenos Greece - 26 year old George was missing on a cruise. Did he fall overboard? George was married to 25 year old Jennifer and joined on this fun cruise a few days after the wedding. There were blood droplets and blood stains in the balcony and in the living areas and foul play was suspected. Jennifer was drunk that night. Two months later Jennifer was not interested in finding out what happened to George.
Thanks Kevin for another great story which adds many more details than made public before 🎉🎉
That's such a strange case, probably too much alcohol and money are never a good cocktail. This case reminds me so much of another similar case, the disappearance of Amy Lynn Bradley on a Royal Caribbean cruise liner, same scenario regarding the lack of help and support into the case, and as of today it's never been solved.
I personally hate those kind a huge cruise liner, in case of problems it's always a huge issue between the Company owning the ship, the country where the incidents happen, everyone trying to push the problem to the others and nobody ready to take any kind of responsibility. That's a very tragic story where a family has been destroyed 🙏🙏🙏 Thanks a lot Kevin for this excellent video
Very professional, organized and well done, Kevin.
They weren’t acting like a newly married couple. Why take your new wife partying with a group of random men you have just met??
I know. And to be going back to the room alone on your honeymoon early in the morning. I would be pissed if my husband didn't come back with me
@@ED80s Well, she was a hoe, so…… Lol
@@ED80s Same!
They could have been into some cuck stuff . .who knows
Usually people DO meet new ppl on a cruise etc and feel I guess it's safe because there's "nowhere to go"? All I can think of, but usually they (should) stay together and safe.
I remember she didn't speak to the police she asked for an attorney! Also she was PAID from the cruise line! Just a strange Case
Jennifer didn't kill the goose that laid the golden egg.
When he said, "end of story. end of story." You know THAT IS A LIE.
These guys attacked him! Seeing a couple who looks wealthy, nice watch and you can tell the room was gone through
I love your presentation. You are easy to understand. I appreciate that you don't swear in any of your videos.
I agree!
I do, too, thank you for that and for your 'just all around brilliance' in what you do. My favorite!!
@Marilyn Shro. I agree Marilyn, bad language is off putting and unnecessary.😎
Thank you so much Kevin; I am truly enjoying your wonderful narratives of crimes that really engages the audience and gets one thinking. Keep it up😊👍🏾
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YOU GUYS COVER CRIMES I HAVE NEVER SEEN OR HEARD BEFORE. (unlike other channels, they cover the same stories as everyone else) AND QUITE |FRANKLY I JUST CAN'T. WITH THAT BEING SAID, Y'ALL KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
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Yeah those dudes give off scammer vibes. I wouldn’t be surprised if they drugged them because I don’t know why a newly married couple would want to hang out with a group of guys. She definitely for the streets but I don’t think she was the one who killed him.
I think when George bragged about how much money they had, someone overheard it that did George harm. No better time than when George was very drunk. I think the three men trashed the room, trying to find the money. Maybe George didn't tell them where the money was, if there was any, and they threw him overboard. They didn't order anything from room service, that was a lie.
Jennifer is a crap wife. RIP George.🌻 So very sad. I hope one day the family gets answers for closure.
I don't know if she was a crap wife or not, it seems like just a very bad marriage. Her husband's out being a heavy drinker while on prescription drugs, he was probably a mess a lot of the time.
I think you are right plus I think they were drugged as well . I think they thought George would have been out cold .
@@powerboatguy2308
A bad marriage? They just got wed, there wasn't even time for developing a bad marriage! I'm in a relationship since 1997; if you want it to work out, you need to get to know one another before you take that step, lest you get blindsided. To me, she came across as an emotionless high-maintenance gold digger - she accepted that 1.1M settlement awfully fast, showing that she took "until death do us part" very literally.
Jennifer might be a crap wife same title or worse goes to the husband who gets drunk all the time and crashes out with friends rather than make sure his wife is OK.
Wife was a pig whore and was plowed by the whole group while husband ended up getting tossed.
It seems very strange to me being on a Honey-Moon trip and entering the cabin , not finding my husband and the next morning I 'm going to a Spa appointment, not being concerned about the welfare of my husband? This is very pelicular! It ś one thing being out and drinking heavily but the behaviour of his wife isn 't decent at all. What might have happened?
I'm thinking perhaps you missed the context given by thd narrator in thd footage.
@@stephaniek1076 I don 't think so!
What else should she do? You're stuck on a cruise ship. Wouldn't you want to do something comforting?
Love intelligent presentation, your beautiful voice and the fact that there's no annoying soundtrack or "music". Thanks!
Wow. We may never know. The family may never know. So unsettling. It’s insane that alcohols, which is legal, can shroud the memory of an event indefinitely. It’s also insane what some people are willing to do or say to cover up their greed and crimes. What a tragedy
I'm obsessed with this true crime story, it was incredibly detailed!
Your investigative reporting is spot on,thanks.🇺🇸🇫🇷🇺🇸
Wife is suss. Her body language speaks volumes. Also you are telling me there are no cameras on board anywhere especially on the decks??? Coverup
As a lifelong cruiser the deck of every cruiseline is often filled with drunk passengers stumbling about in various states of disorientation . There is a reason las vegas casinoes doesnt have balcony. A disoriented and drunk person stumbles, climbs, and fall over a balcony into water and everyone is trying to invent a conspiracy. Drunks have been falling over balconys on dry land forever, the only thing diff here is that it happened at sea. A drunk wife, girlfriend flirting or hooking up with crew has been known to happen. Not a big deal. Not sure how that leads to murder since such hook ups usually happen in crew quarters and not guest quarters where the husband will be. If a crew member already slept with his wife, why would he harm d passengers husband? The other 4 russian dudes were just immature dudes happy to hang out with an older man for a night of parting and drinking. The smiths family inability to accept thier sons death is normal. Denial and looking for someone to blame for freakish random misfortune is part of the grieving process.
Since the alibi did not add up and there was blood everywhere and the room was cleaned up right away all points to foul play. Where is the outside footage!! If there is a man overboard an alarm should go off instantly!
Cruises are dangerous. And because many of these crimes occur in international waters, very hard to prosecute. I still can’t wrap my head around the young lady who simply vanished while on a cruise with her parents and brother. Just disappeared from right under their noses. And there is very strong evidence due to reputable witnesses having seen her that she had been trafficked, but to this day hasn’t been found.
I enter lots of social media competitions, but I never enter cruise competitions.
The fact that the reward for George’s case is $100,00.00 but the reward for the suspects murder case is $3,000.00.
no doubt .. 😢
"$100,00.00"
How did you miss that mistake?
What is one thousand hundred? Lol!
Tragic, I've always found it perplexing why some folks go on expensive vacations and get wasted on alcohol. No surprise bad things happened.
Thanks, Kevin.
It seems likely that George's disappearance/accident/murder will never be solved, due to lack of evidence.
As for cruise liners, I've no idea why anyone would wish to go on a floating hotel for a holiday! Ugh!!
RIP, George🥀🥀🥀
This is the best presented version of this story I have heard/seen. Thx…
I agree with you Eire I dont understand why people go on a floating mini city, with people they might not like and know
Yes, I agree with you, why anyone would want to go on a floating hotel and gambling joint for a holiday, the thought of all those drunk people makes me feel sick, and all that noise
I LOVE cruises.
It's like going on a holiday with your drunken, rowdy neighbors. These floating buildings are horrible, and really bad pollutants too and should be consigned to the dustbin of history. I think George was in a drunken stupor and unfortunately forgot where he was. It's tragic.
i just love your show!! at work i get to listen and watch some times thx for all you do
Awesome a case I haven’t heard of you never disappoint.
And the weird thing is they just got married and she didn’t know where her husband was all night and it didn’t bother her. That is weird.
Too much alcohol
I don't trust the wife or the 4 guys.
Yeah wife's def suspect
Seems suspicious - wife seems like she might have had a drunken fling with one guy and she didn’t seem heartbroken at all.
Yes and drinking always is bad ...
Those guys did it
Is this girl saying she woke up and left the room in that condition to go to the spa?!? Terrible… his wife seems a lil shady to me… and his body never washed up?? That’s odd
At 1st I thought it’s the wife, but I think she was just out partying & doing whatever. That Russian group, I think it’s them. Then when that guy got out of prison, they got him too.
Jews. The fact that they were Russians shouldn’t be as concerning as the fact that they are Jews.
Who goes on a morning spa session when you don't know where your new husband has been since the night before? Your husband isn't there so you don't search for him or raise alarm?
@My Mai. Maybe they're a couple who give each other space. It is unusual for a honeymoon though!😎