Removing Kata From Your Curriculum
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Replying to @weirdbeard207 on removing kata from your curriculum.
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I know this is very broad and everyone is different but what would you consider the good range for number of kata? Empty hand? Kobudo?
@@captaintomasquin less than 12 is a good standard, I think
I agree with this. Too many people have taken kata and think its purpose is to teach people how to fight or self defend. In the words of Patrick Mccarthy, kata is the culmination of knowledge you already should have learned in two person drills. I am a Shuri practitioner and there are 15 katas... WHY? I can imitate all 15 but don't "know" them and quite honestly won't waste my time trying to learn.
My KishimotoDi sensei, Ulf Karlsson, likes to say that 3-5 kata is training, and more is a hobby
I believe either contemporaries or previous students of Itosu may have said if you have time for Pinans, better to do Kushanku. Would you see the variations of Niahanchi in the same light? That they are redundant? Not all styles teach all 3.
Personally, I see Nidan and Sandan as expanding on the material introduced in Shodan. They could probably be merged into one kata that blends the new material from Nidan and Sandan into Shodan, but I definitely find value in the new material they introduce. KishimotoDi doesn't have Nidan and Sandan, but it does have some similar material in the Nidanbu kata that was designed to connect Naihanchi to Passai and Kusanku.
My last instructor was obsessed with Kata he would have exploded in a puff of purple smoke and rage at the mere suggestion of dropping Kata from the curriculum
If I even asked for something from time to time he Acted like the curriculum was set in stone by almighty God and was unalterable
Needless to say I had to leave
A lot of people are that way, unfortunately. Adding material is fine, but removing it is heretical. It results in bloated curriculum that don't really benefit the students.
@@ilpracticalkarate 100% agree
Thankyou for the reply 👍
this gentleman is just too young to understand the true essence of kata. No kata is, and ever will be, redundant. Intangible cultural treasures are never redundant. they are invaluable assets. learn katas, even from other styles, understand the differences, practice them all. you'll better understand the benefit of doing so in your sixties. If anybody don't want to 'waste' their time learning kata, they should be better off learning muai thai, kick boxing or savate.
@victorcold46 my youth has nothing to do with it. From a practical application curriculum standpoint, there is ABSOLUTELY redundancy in kata. If you enjoy doing tons of kata, go ahead, but the more kata you know, the more shallow your study of them becomes, because you simply don't have the time to devote to their study and application. If the practical application isn't your focus, then don't worry about it--collect kata to your heart's content--but when it comes to transferring effective fighting skills from kata, you are better served studying fewer kata in greater depth than more kata shallowly.
@@ilpracticalkarate definitely, grandmaster. Too bad your form is not as good as your speech.
@@victorcold46 How incredibly condescending. Do better.
@@ilpracticalkarate no, you do better. Keep working on your forms.
@@victorcold46 I do work on my forms, I just work on them differently than you do. You're the one condescending to me because I approach training and teaching differently than you. Karate begins and ends with courtesy, as the saying goes. Or does that only apply to people who agree with you?