@Colonel Of the 82nd Airborne actual German here btw. And you've never been to Germany before. Germany has a higher Democracy and Freedom index than the US, and basically every country in the world except Norway. But again, the amount of dirt you spew on the internet shows that somebody hurt you, a lot. So please, socialise and get a clear mind. You'll feel better.
@Colonel Of the 82nd Airborne Because they didn't kill out of bloodlust? Stalin might have killed more than Hitler, but not because he wanted to. He accepted the fact that these people die to cement his power. The Jews in Germany never posed any threat to the Nazi Regime. Yet, Hitler had them all killed. Why? Because of sheer sadism. Also, I can't recall the Soviets gassing their inmates in Gulags. Also, why do you want to point out that "Stalin was worse"? That doesn't migitate the evilness of Hitler at all, except you need to prove something to yourself because you're contemplating your political ideology.
Seems pretty reasonable. The only problem with Apartheid was the apparent neglect of the Homelands and the reliance on cheap labour. Instead of reinforcing the old tribalist system, the Apartheid gov should have used all available funds to heavily invest in infrastructure and industrialization, a land reform programme in order to facilitate a modern, profit oriented farming industry. Instead of rushing them into independence, they should have declared the homelands to be "autonomous provinces" with representation in the upper chamber of parliament only.
@@pvtcit9711 I'm by no expert on this, but my rudimentary understanding is that most of that only really kicked off during the latter half of the apartheid (esp. Botha) era, when S.A. was already beginning to loose international goodwill, increasingly facing sanctions and foreign disinvestment. The great economic boom of the 50s and 60s primarily helped industrialising the white areas, while the Malan and Verwoerd governments were mostly intent on preserving the Homelands' tribal/pastoral identity (which in turn only accelerated urban migration and ultimately led to the downfall of apartheid).
I have to say one thing, the idea of an urban or rural Bantustan gives more opportunities to Black people than a suburb of the United States that is nothing more than a social rottenness of drugs, crime and unemployment without any kind of self-management. Nothing is perfect but I don't think the situation in a suburb in America where buildings are falling apart is much better.
But like how crack meth an other drugs were pushed into the poorer areas of America in the 70s-90s period , people like Wouter Basson an Anton Rupert did the same here in South Africa back then with weed and alcohol and extacsy
@@mogamatyusufmartin6552 If its true is something that souldn´t happen. Different races do not have the same average physical or intellectual abilities. That is evidence. But there should be no anti social measures on the part of a government that could negatively affect a certain group. Let each one make an effort and do what he can to the best of his ability if he does it with honesty and dedication. This would be more than enough.
@@alejandrosotomartin9720 yep 👍🏿,if you want to better understand what especially he Wouter Basson did ,there are documentaries and interviews on RUclips on it
I was born and lived in Districk 6 Cape Town until we were uprooted and resettled on the Cape flats.I endured hardship and dismay and I excepted it as the norm because being born in the system I knew no other.I was classified as Cape coloured and so was my family, We did not ask to be classified as anything but only to be treated fairly.I obeyed the laws and payed my share of taxes no less or more, but the law was the law even though it was bad for some. Today I forgive, Jesus when crucified called out to his "Father to forgive them, they know not what they do", How can I an immortal NOT FORGIVE, South Africans need to forget about classifying themselves and unite and live as one in order to bring about love and devotion. You stand under your flag and sing your anthem as one, why the not be one irregardless of skin colour, religion, poor or well-off .Be the melting-pot. GOD bless South Africa and regards from New Zealand, we too have our problems with form of discrimination and greed, me I forgive and try to forget as hard as it is to. In God we believe. God bless
@@mosesmanaka8109 I can live and love where I choose I don't need anybody to tell me what I need do or where to live, if RSA is truly democratic then enjoy the fruits it present.From afar the info I receive may be wrong but I would rather stay here I make an attempt to bring about change to our domestic problems,I have work to do.
@@travelingjohn69 To use Dr. Phil's words, "Now how has that worked out for you?" It's exactly my point. In 1994 we were given a first world country on a golden platter, the best in Africa when Bafana Bafana could still play soccer, and all we should have done was make it better. Instead we squandered the opportunities with crime, greed, incompetence and corruption. Even Julius Malema said these houses the Apartheid Government built for black people in the townships were bigger and better than the junk they give us today. Bafana Bafana epitomizes how we have become, self entitled, lazy and greedy. We get given opportunities which our parents during Apartheid would have grabbed with both hands, but we mess it up. Businesses like SAA and Eskom and Transnet, etc which white people started and ran profitably for years, we fcuk up in a short period of time.
@@mosesmanaka8109 Were you taught how to run SAA? also if an oppressor hands you over something they have a chink in the armor designed to fail and turn around and say it's your fault. I dream for the day of a Black-owned airlines built from the ground up and ran by Black people. Here in the United States call yourself colored is racist you'd be considered Black but you deciding to maintain an identity that was given to you by the racist White man. I don't understand.
@@sakurakou2009 I'm guessing that they too believe that South Africa is also their home too, since the Dutch in the Cape area did developed in the area overtime as Afrikaners now.
This was going to help us so much as a people it too bad that they had to be “so malicious at times” But after so many years of a rainbow nation I think we honestly need to be separated and left to develop on our own as black people
But the Bantu authorities were then just as corrupt as the ANC is today. They used the money for themselves, didn't do anything for the communities and blamed the white people.
j s no I think you sick in the head , untraveled, and or uneducated, to write such comments. Then again, it could be that you are looking for attention.
One thing they won't tell you that black south africans had their own farms ,land that was taken from them and moved to small houses never cared of how many individuals lives in a home,They just didn't care about it,But now i feel bad for those who were not involved in taking the land"Cause its gonna sucks when black demand their land😴😴😴Also i I know early 2000s some people were compensated for that land though it wasn't enough cause ANC stole part of that money "no one is better than other "All the same thieves "What we need is Unity cause we might be Africans but White people our own now and i don't care about race but love
I am Zambian and remember as a kid in 1990 we went to Capetown as a family and couldnt believe that we were not allowed on some beaches. The concept was so odd to me and I asked my Dad why this was the case, he responded by saying "South Africa is still learning that all people are the same"
And now the blacks have utterly destroyed it. Beyond words. And the whites are persecuted and victimized on account of their race as punishment for their ancestors.
Really?! I was staying with a mate in Clifton during November/December 1989 & I used to take The Maid's kid to swim on the beach. She had learnt to swim in his pool first. It was made clear on SABC that beaches were open to all at the end of November of that year. Once the Summer Break started mid December there was the usual Exodus South including Zims & Zams of all shades ending up on Clifton Beaches. I sincerely hope it is your memory playing tricks & not a clumsy attempt at virtue signalling....I give you the benefit of the doubt. Secondly my folks worked in Zambia on The Copperbelt after The White Flight meant Kaunda had to go cap in hand to skilled workers from abroad to fill the gap. He had just declared a one part state in 1972 & followed this by a bit of his own virtue signalling by closing the Southern border with Rhodesia. However while he never missed an opportunity to boast about the closure he deliberately failed to mention that the rail link remained open so copper ingots could head down South to Durban & Cape Town. In my experience Zambia was economically discriminatory to a far worse extent to those of equal standing in South Africa. Rolling on 50 years I understand that Zambia has been significantly mortgaged to China who are busy asset stripping anything of value. Granted this is even worse in other African countries but it makes a mockery of independence. Finally if your Father is still around I would be most interested to hear his views on post colonial financially dependent Africa?
i think homelands for each native ethnicity was a good idea. problem was, why was xhosa homeland divided into transkei and ciskei instead of one homeland? secondly homelands should not have been small parts, but a coherent area covering all the area where the ethnicity was absolut or relative majority. thirdly the tswana, sesotho and swazi areas should have been united with botswana, lesotho and swaziland. and the coloured descended from khoisan people should have had a homeland too. and monarchy should not have been abolished.
I find this hard to believe I was born in 2002 n never in my life have I ever experienced racism I'll be speaking on behalf of the new generation n by the way I am black my fellow black South Africans I think it's time to let go yes we have experienced pain n hunger our brothers and sisters have died fighting for freedom they've been killed without Mercy we've been treated like animals in this country but this is not the freedom they fought for it's been 26 yrs now n still no changes are black government is corrupt after we vote the rich become richer n the poor become poorer although he have the power we are still too lazy to make use of it we want to take what we didn't work for e.g land expropriation let me speak as a fellow Zulu you'll find that our Kings own large amount of land and they're not making n good use of it n we claim it's their land just because they said sooo we leave that land n rather want the land that is being used for farming which boostes the economy ask urself this question why are we different from the rest of Africa we are not even close to their poor standards of living it's because if these white South Africans we hate they're farming methods are amazing they bring wealth to our country look at Zimbabwe mind my language but it's a pile of shit right now we are blaming the wrong people for South Africas down Fall we should be blaming the people who goven the country they've been running the country for 26 yrs n still no changes at least the white government made sure white people were well taking care of what is the black government doing it's fucking 2020 for God sake white South Africans are South afircans you can't chase someone from their own home we are confused n lazy we even take our anger on other Black Africans trying to make a living with that said I'm not saying apartheid was a good thing but if the Europeans had came to our country with peace n coexistence we wouldn't be here today this is for the born frees of all the ethinic groups in SA guys it's now in our hands what in the past is in the past if we all work together in politics n stop this division In our political parties we can all be satisfied with the out come n make this country great again we are the only generation that's able to interact with each other though we are from different races without showing hate towards one another it's all in our hands Make South Africa great again
I commend you for taking time to write this. You say you have not experienced racism, my argument is that you have. Racism is fundamentally based on economics, not name calling. Black people are poor because of racism. Another issue is that you view yourself as an individual, if for example, you viewed yourself as part of the oppressed Black masses, then you will understand the struggle.
@@kwillz2003 Yes, we are in power and our Black leaders are not effective in alleviating our struggles, that is true. This is because we inherited an oppressive system. The economic and political systems in SA and other African nation's are the same as they were during colonialism. No change can happen in such a situation. Also, if you study colonialism, you will find that having economic power is better than having political power. Look at SA, whites own most of the land and wealth, even though Blacks have the polical power, yet no change, actually things have gotten worse. You need money to initiate change, to build schools, to build roads, and more diabolically (but necessary evil) buy politicians. Look at who funds the politicians in SA, and you will see it is the Wealthy, and who are the wealthiest group in SA? If you find the answer, you will see that SA's poverty is exactly how the people who fund politicians want it to be.
Personal anecdotes do not determine whether or not something exists. You can’t make the argument that racism doesn’t exist anymore because you don’t experience it
My dad even under apartheid, he had white friends that he used to drink with. Proper English and Afrikaner okes. Great guys that enjoyed my dads company and they even used to give us free biltong and cold meats as well as venison. Not all whites were bad or are bad. You get some fantastic blokes. My dads one friend was a rugby player for the Banana Boys those days and his son now plays for the Sharks. This guy loved having drinks with my dad in his butchery those days. What a big hearted guy he was.
Yep those good guys did the voting and got the education and gave your dad pieces of biltong instead. It doesn't take much to please you mr Munoo.... now take a piece of biltong and go sit over there in the corner like a good boy.
Yous sound like you have inferiority complex issues....you want to be accepted by other people...just love yourself and your own people, and the rest will follow.
Apartheid was a good thing! The Republic of South Africa and Rhodesia were the only place where Bantu People had a decent standard of living!!! Look at the shit they have today. They got newly built houses in the 1950s for free!!! What government in Africa provides this today except for Libya, where ZOG killed Gaddafi in 2011? The South African government cared about all races. They even made an education program, that Bantu People were learning 3 languages in school. You know who was the problem? The communist ANC scum! They sabotaged everything and were responsible for all bad things that happened to the black people. Look at South Africa today! A 4th world shithole country that fears western sanctions. What a joke! The old South Africa never feared western sanctions. This was a country that was autonomous. A strong country.
When you are opposed to Apartheid, you are against the excistance of Lesotho, Swaziland and even Botswana, and all the diffirent people territories in the hands of Zulu, Venda, Tsonga/Shangaan, Xhosa, Tswana and others within the borders of the RSA.
Taking into consideration that apartheid was adopted in 1948 ,when such approach was common in USA. There was no needs to invent something fair if blacks were treated as third sort of people in US. SA failed to change when world has changed in 60. Good or bad now in SA, it is as it is.
Joepie De poepie you call this data ? Is it a child writing this, I’m done with internet. Just a couple years back a Black man was president of USA, and you think it was better during “those days” of segregation and racial lynching. The internet never fails to surprise.
It was "adopted" as OFFICIAL government policy for an entire country in 1948, but it didn't spring up out of thin air. It already existed in all but legislation. And the US had segregation, but not on this level & to this extent, just as people had voting rights. Local state governments of course tried to make it more difficult for minorities to vote, but they weren't denied on a federal level any of these fundamental rights anymore. There's a reason this video shows an American reporter interviewing this person & asking questions critical of Apartheid. Even in the US, it was viewed as too far.
So white people think you are gods gift to everything. !! You really not and the sad part is..... you will go to a new place where people welcome you with open arms and you turn around and kill them while they sleep to take over! Y’all day is coming
it would've been better off, if they didn't deny the blacks access to quality education during apartheid. Nobody mentions that all critical economic resources were denied to blacks.
The year today is 2021- Although apartheid is no longer legally practiced in South Africa, based on my research apartheid is still systematic in South Africa. The late Desmond Tutu wanted a better world, a better life for all of South Africa. I would hope the peoples of South Africa would work together for that better life, and totally disavow apartheid in all it's systematic forms. Your country and its peoples are in my prayers.
The word apartheid is misunderstood by many people. In the rest of the world it is called segregation, seperate development, seperate living etc. All over the world there is apartheid. America and Australia being the fore runners. Looking at this video you can clearly see how there where location/townships build for the bantu or black people. Small maybe but they where well build. Now after apartheid era the majority of black people live in bigger poverty than before, shanty towns aith their tin schacks pop up like mushrooms all over the country with no infrastructre to sustain sanitation and healthy living standards. And where their were some sort off development and building schemes, not much came of it as the houses where poorly build and the allocated funds lost in corruption, leavingvthe people no option but to squid in shanty towns in tin shacks. And yes, apartheid is still systematic in SA, just in reverse order, fueled on by the ruling revolutionist ANC party. Tutu now is the late Tutu by the way.
@@douw004 Thank you very much for sharing this information with me. I was hoping life in 2022 would be better for the peoples of South Africa. I am sorry to hear from you it is not. I keep them all in prayer. Be blessed.
The wealth held in black hands today is collectively more than the wealth in white hands thr inequality is a numbers game. If people could stop having more children then their able to nurture into a functional society then we could get somewhere instead we slip on all the metrics being measured because people are chosing to multiply faster than they work collectively towards building lasting infrastructure maintaining existing infrastructure and passing skills and knowledge. My heart is with SA bit until the fundamentals are understood by the population its always gonna be an uneasy country its a lovely place but like everywhere it has its problems
I would propose an alternative third way between Apartheid and universal suffrage of replacing enfranchisement by race with enfranchisement by education.
There was a qualified franchise in SA before aparheirrd 1948. The so-called coloured voters roll. This was too much for Afrikaaners and they got rid of it. This caused a lot of unnecessary strife
Rhodeisa/Zimbabwe had this system and it collapsed even faster. These are the people who beg for the farmer and worship him when he feeds them when they are hungry, but the moment their bellies are full, they suddenly think the farmer is oppressing them because he has more wealth then they do.
I keep thinking how is it that the europeans couldn't just have made a country of their own and left the natives alone, even if it was just a small country...🤔
They did. You don't seem to know that everytime White man build wealth somewere, blacks come in droves. They were practically no one in South Af at the beginning. Most blacks living in SA nowadays are not bantus !!!
@@blondewoman1 😂😂 oh I know this cannot be true. Let me take you down memory lane. The first people to ever live in South Africa were the San and the Khoi then later followed by the Xhosa. They were self sufficient. The San were hunter gathers while the Khoi were the Herders. The first colonizers who landed in SA were the Portuguese in the year 1510. They came with 3 fleet of ships. They traded with the Khoi for kettle and thay gave them iron. The Portuguese stole from the Khoi and had an altercation with them at which the Khoi won. It is called battle of salt river. Then the dutch came in the year 1652. The writings of the Khoi were found all over South Africa which is proof that they were in all parts of the country. The very same Dutch traded with the Khoi and the San people. Then what in the world do you mean the country was practically empty. The Dutch and the English were the last group to arrive in South Africa.
I said and repeat : Africa was nearly empty when Whites came, Whites build wealth in South, blacks immigrants came in big numbers from countries around to benefit living in the nearby successful White country as they always did and still do nowadays.
If he melieve the two races should be separate, why didn't they just create 2 states, and allow the blacks to have their own government rather than be under white rule? Obvious the 2 together as you got after apartide didn't work we see the mess, but why not a 2 state solution like Palestinians want in Israel?
Dont be bitter chief Relax.... wena jst seat back and watch. A drastic shift is coming... its your choice to choose if you will be part of the change or you will be against it.
I soo wish you could see my Family buddy.. Starving is the least of our worries. Am not even moved by your comment bcoz ur r just another brainwashed pale skin being who believes tht anyting Dark skinned is a symbol of failure... so if you don't mind Mr Stone... i have better things to do n i suggest u gt a hobby urself oryt kid.
I have a hobby, Mr. Mashego and it's bringing inconvenient truths to light. You maybe part of SA's upper middle class but how can you support racist landgrabs? Dark skin is not symbol of failure, exclusion is.
The little houses could be very charming once made a home. We see this now in the USA for “green” purposes to live in small quarters. I would’ve instilled a birth control agenda to the Apartheid system that would pay you or trade with you some land for a “snip” job. This would’ve curbed the population issue of 12 blacks to 3 Anglo’s. The inequity is in the numbers. This would’ve facilitated a mature passing over through time of real responsibilities. With out proper birth control (volunteer via neutering ) apartheid wouldn’t hold up, and it didn’t because of the number disparity of 12/3 The sprawl issue, and medicine and over population were the death nail. The Pill wasn’t invented yet sadly. In the USA, people tended to all live in their own “gheto’s” for a lack of a better word. Gays lived in the Village of NYC. Anglo’s of all strips lived in Levitt’s Towns all over America. Blacks in the USA really did earn their Place over time. We are mixed because we have created equality through checks and balances and through hard work and great sacrifice. People here in the States really do have to prove their worthiness no matter who they are. The welfare issues were a mistake, along with the “projects”. Who ever you are: we don’t respect property we do not own. Ownership is the key. Apartheid only can work for so long, and several generations of resentment came out of it, and now 25 years later that resentment will be passed on for centuries in the future....like the Irish having to eat grass in the 1840’s, yet if they also grew beets they surely wouldn’t have starved. Germany suffered the same parasitic worm as in Ireland, but they (by pure chance) also grew beets. South Africa will self distrust as we are seeing now (2019) with the black migrants looking for work, and the marauding of Iranian shops and Chinese shops. This is a whole other issue of the inability to evolve properly. The toolbox still isn’t developed yet. They cannot understand that business isn’t personal. Business is just that. Business is like a good mold. The endless infighting of silly silly tribalism will be (and is now) their downfall. Only Capitalism can save South Africa. The world will not invest in an unstable ethnocentric Nation as it is now. The “rainbow” was a pure nonsense and everyone knew it to be so. By the way, the American South looked like a paradise once too. I miss Anglo neatness and cleanliness. I get it. But I also know that that’s all for naught if it’s only going to be destroyed beyond repair in one night of rage. The goal is to instill Anglo manners and morass into the greater culture. Nothing is more gratifying then truly successful black Americans who succeeded in unbelievable odds and made it. Equality is truly earned and you can’t take that away from anyone. Nothing is more honorable then to give others a chance to prove themselves. A Marriage doesn’t work when in separation, and not do a People. #gaysfortrump2020
Problem is the following. The increase in "lives" in South-Afrifa was not only because of procreation, but also because the country took such good care of its people, that all of the neighboring countries' people wanted in on it. En that is exactly how we fell into this pot of steaming shit!
@@brandenvandermerwe5352 That's true...but not the core of the issue. The real cause of the problem was Agricultural Mechanization. It was known by the government, in advance, that 30% of the black South African population would become unemployed because of agricultural mechanization. Homelands were created to absorb this inevitable sudden rise in unemployment and all the issues that come with mass unemployment. When you dump large numbers of unskilled unemployed into an closed off area, of course social issues will fester there. After a decade or two of festering, those neglected populations were reabsorbed en mass. The flood gates were opened. Everyone felt the sudden impact of change, but most didn't know the cause or the source of that sudden change.
I'm currently in Cape Town and i can see the wounds of apartheid is not healed. Mandela did a great job by being diplomatic and not paying back those who hurt him thereby bridging the gap in some way. But from my observation I can say there's still no justice because how are blacks resettled and now when the GAC (1950) ended, how come the locals didn't get their land back? Blacks are still much disadvantaged in SA
I also find it soo fuckin ironic that apartheid apologists and the neo nazi cults in SA base their ideologies on christianity... So apartheid South Africa was basically a Christian version of the extremist Islamic states we have today 🤣
Funny how the blks call for murdering people because of the colour of their skin. They also show how racist and hateful they are but then call themselves Christians. LOL
I worked in Mamelodi! No longer a very nice place- but certainly not awful. I do think that separate development for separate cultures may be best (take the catastrophe that was Yugoslavia for example)- The problem with Apartheid (as I see it) is that it was not just. Land was NOT fairly and equitably distributed (the homelands for example were never actually viable as states), We white South Africans DID want to take advantage of cheap labour (instead of doing the jobs ourselves.) And there undeniably WAS the denigration and subjugation of the native cultures/peoples- if these things had not happened- we may have seen a much more just and peaceful South Africa than the one in which we find ourselves.
Apartheid Justice system. Some are more protected by law than others. Some have more human rights than others. The system applies and protects some more than others
I am trying to research about HIV in South Africa and came across this video... apartheid/racial segregation/no resources in bantustans /less education/no healthcare etc. all increased HIV among young Black African women. All rooted from apartheid...
@Luís Filipe Andrade the blacks wanted to live in houses, so the government built them for them. The blacks wanted paid work, so the whites hired them.
Apartied was and still racist to this day and you can dress it up with it was better for black people not lies it's morally wrong so sorry you lost dutch 🙋☘️
@Colonel Of the 82nd Airborne if you think you are going to get some emotional reply from you are out of luck. I happen to like the racist i smile abit when one farmer goes to the ground...😎😎 for the tears of my grandfather and many who were starved and humiliated. Please remain racist so that our poeple can wake up to the reality and the absolute truth😊😊
@Colonel Of the 82nd Airborne oh wow so you want to make a comparison between the Continent of Europe with South Africa !! A former british colony that was exploited for rescources and then murder of the native lands who were latter forcesd to work in the mines to keep the empire ritch and latter the Afrikaaner nationalists who came and do their part of distruction for at least a half a century but before that the empire exploited and looted the countey for 2 centuries but we must compare them with Europe after 20 years of the socalled fredom...if i may ask how do we compare South Africa with the continent of Europe??
Yes apartheid was wrong. But you cant deny, these people knew how to build and progress a countries infrastructure. Dude built a 30 000+ community in just 4 years (taking into account this was 30 years ago).
Tell these delusional, entitled, hateful, inhuman naccistical pycopaths, the world is in confusion, chaotic times because of their greed and entitlement.
@@henryg3313 uyanya wena msunu wenja. First of all who let you in our land? ...you should all go back where you came from...and sleep with animals , you fake ass bitch.
As march as homeland system was bad - The New South Africa is worse for the black minority groups - Ndebele - Venda - Swazi - Tsonga - Shangaan. These groups are so irrelevant politically and socially in the NEW SOUTH AFRICA. IF you are NOT - Sotho - Zulu -Xhosa - Tswana then you are not a relevent and Important black South African in this New Soufh Africa. Everything is Nguni or Sotho . If Zulus say somerhing everything goes. We saw this 1994 ( Ifp ) - We saw this in July 2021- ( Zuma ).
Did the Africans asked to be divided? The point here is that the settler wanted to divide and rule so that he get a better chance at controlling the smaller groups. Otherwise there is no progressive reason for dividing Africans
US did not impose any sanctions against the Apartheid regime, in fact, the economic ties became strong toward 80s. US has no moral ground to question any other country in this world about how they rule their people. US accusing North Korea on how they treat their people is a joke!
False, the Anti Apartheid act of 1986 placed these American sanctions on South Africa: ec. 301. Prohibition on the importation of krugerrands Sec. 302. Prohibition on the importation of military articles Sec. 303. Prohibition on the importation of products from parastatal organizations Sec. 304. Prohibition on computer exports to South Africa Sec. 305. Prohibition on loans to the Government of South Africa Sec. 306. Prohibition on air transportation with South Africa Sec. 307. Prohibitions on nuclear trade with South Africa Sec. 308. Government of South Africa bank accounts Sec. 309. Prohibition on importation of uranium and coal from South Africa Sec. 310. Prohibition on new investment in South Africa Sec. 311. Termination of certain provisions Sec. 312. Policy toward violence or terrorism Sec. 313. Termination of tax treaty and protocol Sec. 314. Prohibition on United States Government procurement from South Africa Sec. 315. Prohibition on the promotion of United States tourism in South Africa Sec. 316. Prohibition on United States Government assistance to, investment in, or subsidy for trade with South Africa Sec. 317. Prohibition on sale or export of items on Munition List Sec. 318. Munitions list sales, notification Sec. 319. Prohibition on importation of South African agricultural products and food Sec. 320. Prohibition on importation of iron and steel Sec. 321. Prohibition on exports of crude oil and petroleum products Sec. 322. Prohibition on cooperation with the armed forces of South Africa Sec. 323. Prohibition on sugar imports
Finding ‘Bantu people that has the Inclination, training and moral courage to develop their own people, with all the possible assistance from the Government.’ never happened I guess! Explains the corrupt criminal state void of morality cesspool called SA, less that 26 years since Mulungu left. It’s the way of Africa. But the Chinese are coming and they have a better alternative...
You go through so much length to dehumanise Africans for what? We never said europe shouldn't have their own natural resources, God gave that to Africa. You came, you twisted history, the Bible to fit your delusional, entitled, hateful, inhuman naccistical pysco brain. But your time is coming.
No apologies from my side, but seriously? People are worse of now, are witnessing whats happening in your country, you have no words but you also benefited. Mmmh. There will always be apartheid, only difference now, 10 million jobless. No housing? Anc in power with land and everything. Explain that one seeing you were there in 57? Time is over to take racial slur from people who dont care
@@victortshoba1216 go do some research before you ome with racist remarks. Iziko museum have a great research branch. African studies. Black professors writing about apartheid, with actual proof and knowledge. We in 2020, surely you can say more about your people? Do some research buddy, you will be well surprised how african kings sold of their own people tobeuropeans for financial gain. There is so many documents about that time. So lets see if you care enough about your people
@@conradduplooy6570 No excuses. Your people were not the ones who were oppressed. In a nutshell, the Afrikaaner government got away with genocide and we had the decency to let the past be the past for a greater good.
I think the housing in the apartheid year was much better build than today they also stole money out of the coffers of the government but it's worst today and just to let you know I don't condone the apartheid eara
@@mattmccallum2007 do you have a source for that? even if that was true i don’t see how that justifies the colonization of south africa and the brutalization of the natives.
Jesus must restore things in this country for our hearts are wicked and wounded. Our cares and burdens are heavy and the logs in our own eyes are heavier. Be blessed friends and even those who are enemies, be blessed.
If you come to my place, found me primitive and then you use my resources to give yourself a good, l also hv a right to demand that good life you are giving yourself. Its not like lm the one who came to your place. You left yours that had no resources and invaded my space n l welcomed you. Give me that good life no matter how primitive you think l am, l demand that good life in my space too.
frikkies333 4th world country ? Then why are all the expats flooding back to this 4th world ? If you dont want to be here frikkie leave, I dont understand racists. Like what are you still doing here ? theres a frigid, narrow road, tiny yard, overpriced, over taxed village in europe waiting for you. Leave
When i was is SA 2011 white girl said to me i just can't take u home cuz dad will punch me for bringing black boy to the house🤣 i was like oh I'm losing the white girl bang now🤣🤣
Yeah, it is hideous that a three hundred year old civilization became a nightmare world in just two decades. The dispossessed Afrikaner man is still waiting for some black to tell him what part of his life improved after Apartheid ended. South African news today doesn't sound any better than anything under apartheid. Frankly it sounds much worse. www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/cape-town-cops-in-the-dock-for-allegedly-arresting-innocent-man-to-replace-escaped-suspect-20210720
You see ghis is exactly why you dont whant to see the trueth. Look behind him. There ware houses build and schools build. You whome hase never build enithing in your live will never see the truth it is 25 years after seperitnis. And your south africa is falling apart. With crime at ists heights tell me i am wrong
@@cronjevandermerwe8864 what the fuck is wrong with you people? can't you just accept that you fucked us up and all you can say is that "there were houses built", did we ask for those crappy houses? because we had our own farmlands that your fucked up people decide to take and put us in fucked up houses in very polluted locations that themselves including you know very well that you wouldn't have lived in if you had the choice so just shut the fuck up please!!!!!!!
Kinda funny to think they base this ideology on their "benovelent" christian beliefs... Pretty sure they ignored the "love your neighbor as you love yourself" 🤣
"Criticism of apartheid is based on moral grounds"
Look at South Africa today, does that look like morality?
At least, it's scoring better on the democracy index now
@Colonel Of the 82nd Airborne Nice crappy take trying to push the plight of South Africans on Europeans, thus deconstructing your whole point
@Colonel Of the 82nd Airborne Tell me, what are these rights? Name ten, please.
@Colonel Of the 82nd Airborne actual German here btw. And you've never been to Germany before. Germany has a higher Democracy and Freedom index than the US, and basically every country in the world except Norway. But again, the amount of dirt you spew on the internet shows that somebody hurt you, a lot. So please, socialise and get a clear mind. You'll feel better.
@Colonel Of the 82nd Airborne Because they didn't kill out of bloodlust? Stalin might have killed more than Hitler, but not because he wanted to. He accepted the fact that these people die to cement his power. The Jews in Germany never posed any threat to the Nazi Regime. Yet, Hitler had them all killed. Why? Because of sheer sadism. Also, I can't recall the Soviets gassing their inmates in Gulags. Also, why do you want to point out that "Stalin was worse"? That doesn't migitate the evilness of Hitler at all, except you need to prove something to yourself because you're contemplating your political ideology.
Seems pretty reasonable. The only problem with Apartheid was the apparent neglect of the Homelands and the reliance on cheap labour. Instead of reinforcing the old tribalist system, the Apartheid gov should have used all available funds to heavily invest in infrastructure and industrialization, a land reform programme in order to facilitate a modern, profit oriented farming industry. Instead of rushing them into independence, they should have declared the homelands to be "autonomous provinces" with representation in the upper chamber of parliament only.
@@pvtcit9711 I'm by no expert on this, but my rudimentary understanding is that most of that only really kicked off during the latter half of the apartheid (esp. Botha) era, when S.A. was already beginning to loose international goodwill, increasingly facing sanctions and foreign disinvestment. The great economic boom of the 50s and 60s primarily helped industrialising the white areas, while the Malan and Verwoerd governments were mostly intent on preserving the Homelands' tribal/pastoral identity (which in turn only accelerated urban migration and ultimately led to the downfall of apartheid).
The psychological and socio-economic impact of being forcefully removed from your home to barren outskirts is by no means reasonable.
"if your profile picture is a king, your opinion doesn't matter"
@@vicic2779 Says who?
The ‘apparent neglect of the Homelands’ was a policy purposely adopted by the South African government during Apartheid.
I have to say one thing, the idea of an urban or rural Bantustan gives more opportunities to Black people than a suburb of the United States that is nothing more than a social rottenness of drugs, crime and unemployment without any kind of self-management. Nothing is perfect but I don't think the situation in a suburb in America where buildings are falling apart is much better.
But like how crack meth an other drugs were pushed into the poorer areas of America in the 70s-90s period , people like Wouter Basson an Anton Rupert did the same here in South Africa back then with weed and alcohol and extacsy
@@mogamatyusufmartin6552 If its true is something that souldn´t happen. Different races do not have the same average physical or intellectual abilities. That is evidence. But there should be no anti social measures on the part of a government that could negatively affect a certain group. Let each one make an effort and do what he can to the best of his ability if he does it with honesty and dedication. This would be more than enough.
@@alejandrosotomartin9720 it is true,it was with the assistance of the then apartheid government but in the early 2000s he got pardonned
@@mogamatyusufmartin6552 Really? I don't back such kind of things. Chacun son ritme.
@@alejandrosotomartin9720 yep 👍🏿,if you want to better understand what especially he Wouter Basson did ,there are documentaries and interviews on RUclips on it
I was born and lived in Districk 6 Cape Town until we were uprooted and resettled on the Cape flats.I endured hardship and dismay and I excepted it as the norm because being born in the system I knew no other.I was classified as Cape coloured and so was my family, We did not ask to be classified as anything but only to be treated fairly.I obeyed the laws and payed my share of taxes no less or more, but the law was the law even though it was bad for some. Today I forgive, Jesus when crucified called out to his "Father to forgive them, they know not what they do", How can I an immortal NOT FORGIVE, South Africans need to forget about classifying themselves and unite and live as one in order to bring about love and devotion. You stand under your flag and sing your anthem as one, why the not be one irregardless of skin colour, religion, poor or well-off .Be the melting-pot. GOD bless South Africa and regards from New Zealand, we too have our problems with form of discrimination and greed, me I forgive and try to forget as hard as it is to. In God we believe. God bless
If Apartheid was so bad as you claim, why dont you come back to the new South Africa where there no more Apartheid?
@@mosesmanaka8109 I can live and love where I choose I don't need anybody to tell me what I need do or where to live, if RSA is truly democratic then enjoy the fruits it present.From afar the info I receive may be wrong but I would rather stay here I make an attempt to bring about change to our domestic problems,I have work to do.
F*ck forgiveness and being tricked by the White Christian religion. Justice and economic empowerment for Blacks must be first and foremost.
@@travelingjohn69
To use Dr. Phil's words, "Now how has that worked out for you?"
It's exactly my point. In 1994 we were given a first world country on a golden platter, the best in Africa when Bafana Bafana could still play soccer, and all we should have done was make it better.
Instead we squandered the opportunities with crime, greed, incompetence and corruption.
Even Julius Malema said these houses the Apartheid Government built for black people in the townships were bigger and better than the junk they give us today.
Bafana Bafana epitomizes how we have become, self entitled, lazy and greedy. We get given opportunities which our parents during Apartheid would have grabbed with both hands, but we mess it up.
Businesses like SAA and Eskom and Transnet, etc which white people started and ran profitably for years, we fcuk up in a short period of time.
@@mosesmanaka8109 Were you taught how to run SAA? also if an oppressor hands you over something they have a chink in the armor designed to fail and turn around and say it's your fault. I dream for the day of a Black-owned airlines built from the ground up and ran by Black people. Here in the United States call yourself colored is racist you'd be considered Black but you deciding to maintain an identity that was given to you by the racist White man. I don't understand.
This policy would have worked fine in Europe, not in our land.
true the audacity that they go to forgein land and do this they so wicked
@@sakurakou2009 I'm guessing that they too believe that South Africa is also their home too, since the Dutch in the Cape area did developed in the area overtime as Afrikaners now.
@UC9f_SnmmWCoJGbeWnDCqZqQ Oh I wasn't meaning that it's automatically not though.
Democracy hasn’t worked in Africa.
Botswana: 😐
@@IronSharpensIronOfficialOK, the one exception.
@@IronSharpensIronOfficial lmao. Ask the former president why he exiled himself to South Africa
NOTHING worked, is working or will work in Africa!
@@IronSharpensIronOfficial Botswana is ruled by de Beers, Lonmin, Anglo etc., etc.
This was going to help us so much as a people it too bad that they had to be “so malicious at times”
But after so many years of a rainbow nation I think we honestly need to be separated and left to develop on our own as black people
But the Bantu authorities were then just as corrupt as the ANC is today. They used the money for themselves, didn't do anything for the communities and blamed the white people.
Uyanya. Why don't you separate yourself and go to Europe
Reverse apartheid. 😅
Wanyela
Keep the each other's culture,build each other's home,rule by yourselves...
千岳 I agree, but, don’t take away from the others resources and financial capacity.
j s go take your meds
@@iphoneupdate Im good thanks. Rather try to proof me wrong.
j s no I think you sick in the head , untraveled, and or uneducated, to write such comments. Then again, it could be that you are looking for attention.
@@iphoneupdate education.... How funny. What kind of education do you think blacks ever brought to this world.
One thing they won't tell you that black south africans had their own farms ,land that was taken from them and moved to small houses never cared of how many individuals lives in a home,They just didn't care about it,But now i feel bad for those who were not involved in taking the land"Cause its gonna sucks when black demand their land😴😴😴Also i I know early 2000s some people were compensated for that land though it wasn't enough cause ANC stole part of that money "no one is better than other "All the same thieves "What we need is Unity cause we might be Africans but White people our own now and i don't care about race but love
I am Zambian and remember as a kid in 1990 we went to Capetown as a family and couldnt believe that we were not allowed on some beaches. The concept was so odd to me and I asked my Dad why this was the case, he responded by saying "South Africa is still learning that all people are the same"
yeah and compare how streets looked back then, and how they look now xDD and no, people are not the same
And now the blacks have utterly destroyed it. Beyond words. And the whites are persecuted and victimized on account of their race as punishment for their ancestors.
@@jasonsalazar9711 Ummm. okay
@@rickjames21 truth makes you uncomfortable?
Really?! I was staying with a mate in Clifton during November/December 1989 & I used to take The Maid's kid to swim on the beach. She had learnt to swim in his pool first. It was made clear on SABC that beaches were open to all at the end of November of that year. Once the Summer Break started mid December there was the usual Exodus South including Zims & Zams of all shades ending up on Clifton Beaches. I sincerely hope it is your memory playing tricks & not a clumsy attempt at virtue signalling....I give you the benefit of the doubt.
Secondly my folks worked in Zambia on The Copperbelt after The White Flight meant Kaunda had to go cap in hand to skilled workers from abroad to fill the gap. He had just declared a one part state in 1972 & followed this by a bit of his own virtue signalling by closing the Southern border with Rhodesia. However while he never missed an opportunity to boast about the closure he deliberately failed to mention that the rail link remained open so copper ingots could head down South to Durban & Cape Town. In my experience Zambia was economically discriminatory to a far worse extent to those of equal standing in South Africa.
Rolling on 50 years I understand that Zambia has been significantly mortgaged to China who are busy asset stripping anything of value. Granted this is even worse in other African countries but it makes a mockery of independence.
Finally if your Father is still around I would be most interested to hear his views on post colonial financially dependent Africa?
i think homelands for each native ethnicity was a good idea. problem was, why was xhosa homeland divided into transkei and ciskei instead of one homeland? secondly homelands should not have been small parts, but a coherent area covering all the area where the ethnicity was absolut or relative majority. thirdly the tswana, sesotho and swazi areas should have been united with botswana, lesotho and swaziland. and the coloured descended from khoisan people should have had a homeland too. and monarchy should not have been abolished.
What about yourself?
But most coloureds come from malayns mixed with people that were in the Cape that time, Nelson Mandela is more khoisan than most coloureds
Why were homelands made in the first place don't understand this, and the pinkies were left to live freely in my forefathers land.
@@abigailnomsamndebele6351 😅😅
@@tokosekgothudi9988 what do u mean?
I find this hard to believe I was born in 2002 n never in my life have I ever experienced racism I'll be speaking on behalf of the new generation n by the way I am black my fellow black South Africans I think it's time to let go yes we have experienced pain n hunger our brothers and sisters have died fighting for freedom they've been killed without Mercy we've been treated like animals in this country but this is not the freedom they fought for it's been 26 yrs now n still no changes are black government is corrupt after we vote the rich become richer n the poor become poorer although he have the power we are still too lazy to make use of it we want to take what we didn't work for e.g land expropriation let me speak as a fellow Zulu you'll find that our Kings own large amount of land and they're not making n good use of it n we claim it's their land just because they said sooo we leave that land n rather want the land that is being used for farming which boostes the economy ask urself this question why are we different from the rest of Africa we are not even close to their poor standards of living it's because if these white South Africans we hate they're farming methods are amazing they bring wealth to our country look at Zimbabwe mind my language but it's a pile of shit right now we are blaming the wrong people for South Africas down Fall we should be blaming the people who goven the country they've been running the country for 26 yrs n still no changes at least the white government made sure white people were well taking care of what is the black government doing it's fucking 2020 for God sake white South Africans are South afircans you can't chase someone from their own home we are confused n lazy we even take our anger on other Black Africans trying to make a living with that said I'm not saying apartheid was a good thing but if the Europeans had came to our country with peace n coexistence we wouldn't be here today this is for the born frees of all the ethinic groups in SA guys it's now in our hands what in the past is in the past if we all work together in politics n stop this division In our political parties we can all be satisfied with the out come n make this country great again we are the only generation that's able to interact with each other though we are from different races without showing hate towards one another it's all in our hands Make South Africa great again
I commend you for taking time to write this. You say you have not experienced racism, my argument is that you have. Racism is fundamentally based on economics, not name calling. Black people are poor because of racism. Another issue is that you view yourself as an individual, if for example, you viewed yourself as part of the oppressed Black masses, then you will understand the struggle.
@@mzilikazi5772 how can we be oppressed when we are the one with the power but our government is letting us down
@@kwillz2003 Yes, we are in power and our Black leaders are not effective in alleviating our struggles, that is true. This is because we inherited an oppressive system. The economic and political systems in SA and other African nation's are the same as they were during colonialism. No change can happen in such a situation. Also, if you study colonialism, you will find that having economic power is better than having political power. Look at SA, whites own most of the land and wealth, even though Blacks have the polical power, yet no change, actually things have gotten worse. You need money to initiate change, to build schools, to build roads, and more diabolically (but necessary evil) buy politicians. Look at who funds the politicians in SA, and you will see it is the Wealthy, and who are the wealthiest group in SA? If you find the answer, you will see that SA's poverty is exactly how the people who fund politicians want it to be.
@@kwillz2003 Hey thanks for your comments. Very informative 🙂
Personal anecdotes do not determine whether or not something exists. You can’t make the argument that racism doesn’t exist anymore because you don’t experience it
My dad even under apartheid, he had white friends that he used to drink with. Proper English and Afrikaner okes.
Great guys that enjoyed my dads company and they even used to give us free biltong and cold meats as well as venison.
Not all whites were bad or are bad. You get some fantastic blokes. My dads one friend was a rugby player for the Banana Boys those days and his son now plays for the Sharks.
This guy loved having drinks with my dad in his butchery those days. What a big hearted guy he was.
I know based on certain words this is not a black person who wrote this🤣🤣🤣
@John Muhleisen yhea well if he Indian there is alot to say about those cow warshiping poeple.
His father must have been a good boy!! 🤣🤣🤣
Yep those good guys did the voting and got the education and gave your dad pieces of biltong instead.
It doesn't take much to please you mr Munoo.... now take a piece of biltong and go sit over there in the corner like a good boy.
Yous sound like you have inferiority complex issues....you want to be accepted by other people...just love yourself and your own people, and the rest will follow.
At least, he khows he is a westerner even after over 300 years
Yes, you heard that too
If you agree with apartheid you can classify your self as either evil or stupid or maybe both in some
cases
Apartheid was a good thing! The Republic of South Africa and Rhodesia were the only place where Bantu People had a decent standard of living!!! Look at the shit they have today. They got newly built houses in the 1950s for free!!! What government in Africa provides this today except for Libya, where ZOG killed Gaddafi in 2011? The South African government cared about all races. They even made an education program, that Bantu People were learning 3 languages in school. You know who was the problem? The communist ANC scum! They sabotaged everything and were responsible for all bad things that happened to the black people. Look at South Africa today! A 4th world shithole country that fears western sanctions. What a joke! The old South Africa never feared western sanctions. This was a country that was autonomous. A strong country.
When you are opposed to Apartheid, you are against the excistance of Lesotho, Swaziland and even Botswana, and all the diffirent people territories in the hands of Zulu, Venda, Tsonga/Shangaan, Xhosa, Tswana and others within the borders of the RSA.
No. The independent countries you named do not segregate people based on race.
Bet your vile, wicked self I totally oppose it. Why should we be divided as africans especially us the southerners..
Love how you left out English and Afrikaans because their place is in Europe as this gentleman says in the video you're Europeans
Petty. I bet you yourself don't believe what you are saying
Taking into consideration that apartheid was adopted in 1948 ,when such approach was common in USA. There was no needs to invent something fair if blacks were treated as third sort of people in US. SA failed to change when world has changed in 60. Good or bad now in SA, it is as it is.
@Joepie De poepie according to what data, this is insulting.
Joepie De poepie you call this data ? Is it a child writing this, I’m done with internet. Just a couple years back a Black man was president of USA, and you think it was better during “those days” of segregation and racial lynching. The internet never fails to surprise.
Joepie De I don’t chat with dumb people, I guess UFO’s and time travel is common knowledge as well. Can’t believe I wasted my time.
It was "adopted" as OFFICIAL government policy for an entire country in 1948, but it didn't spring up out of thin air. It already existed in all but legislation. And the US had segregation, but not on this level & to this extent, just as people had voting rights. Local state governments of course tried to make it more difficult for minorities to vote, but they weren't denied on a federal level any of these fundamental rights anymore.
There's a reason this video shows an American reporter interviewing this person & asking questions critical of Apartheid. Even in the US, it was viewed as too far.
Sad when I am starting to think Aparthied makes sense. The uneducated and ignorant masses of SA will destroy everthing.
It's already happening.
Have and will
So white people think you are gods gift to everything. !! You really not and the sad part is..... you will go to a new place where people welcome you with open arms and you turn around and kill them while they sleep to take over! Y’all day is coming
@@kkhendricks73 Amen to that
it would've been better off, if they didn't deny the blacks access to quality education during apartheid. Nobody mentions that all critical economic resources were denied to blacks.
The year today is 2021- Although apartheid is no longer legally practiced in South Africa, based on my research apartheid is still systematic in South Africa. The late Desmond Tutu wanted a better world, a better life for all of South Africa. I would hope the peoples of South Africa would work together for that better life, and
totally disavow apartheid in all it's systematic forms. Your country and its peoples are in my prayers.
Desmond Tutu is not dead
@@jazzy_xxx Thank you for correcting me. I am old now and getting everyone confused. Be blessed.
The word apartheid is misunderstood by many people. In the rest of the world it is called segregation, seperate development, seperate living etc. All over the world there is apartheid. America and Australia being the fore runners. Looking at this video you can clearly see how there where location/townships build for the bantu or black people. Small maybe but they where well build. Now after apartheid era the majority of black people live in bigger poverty than before, shanty towns aith their tin schacks pop up like mushrooms all over the country with no infrastructre to sustain sanitation and healthy living standards. And where their were some sort off development and building schemes, not much came of it as the houses where poorly build and the allocated funds lost in corruption, leavingvthe people no option but to squid in shanty towns in tin shacks. And yes, apartheid is still systematic in SA, just in reverse order, fueled on by the ruling revolutionist ANC party. Tutu now is the late Tutu by the way.
@@douw004 Thank you very much for sharing this information with me. I was hoping life in 2022 would be better for the peoples of South Africa. I am sorry to hear from you it is not. I keep them all in prayer. Be blessed.
The wealth held in black hands today is collectively more than the wealth in white hands thr inequality is a numbers game. If people could stop having more children then their able to nurture into a functional society then we could get somewhere instead we slip on all the metrics being measured because people are chosing to multiply faster than they work collectively towards building lasting infrastructure maintaining existing infrastructure and passing skills and knowledge. My heart is with SA bit until the fundamentals are understood by the population its always gonna be an uneasy country its a lovely place but like everywhere it has its problems
I would propose an alternative third way between Apartheid and universal suffrage of replacing enfranchisement by race with enfranchisement by education.
i think they had that in rhodesia and portugese colonies
@@denkedeligekanal9059 Should be noted that such "education" requirements effectivley bared most non whites from voting.
going to Schools doesn't mean you educated brother, if all you learnt is only your brain what's the use of it
There was a qualified franchise in SA before aparheirrd 1948. The so-called coloured voters roll. This was too much for Afrikaaners and they got rid of it. This caused a lot of unnecessary strife
Rhodeisa/Zimbabwe had this system and it collapsed even faster. These are the people who beg for the farmer and worship him when he feeds them when they are hungry, but the moment their bellies are full, they suddenly think the farmer is oppressing them because he has more wealth then they do.
It was the best system for Africa everyone were developing separately without a party take from eachother
I keep thinking how is it that the europeans couldn't just have made a country of their own and left the natives alone, even if it was just a small country...🤔
They did. You don't seem to know that everytime White man build wealth somewere, blacks come in droves. They were practically no one in South Af at the beginning. Most blacks living in SA nowadays are not bantus !!!
@@blondewoman1 😂😂 oh I know this cannot be true. Let me take you down memory lane. The first people to ever live in South Africa were the San and the Khoi then later followed by the Xhosa. They were self sufficient. The San were hunter gathers while the Khoi were the Herders. The first colonizers who landed in SA were the Portuguese in the year 1510. They came with 3 fleet of ships. They traded with the Khoi for kettle and thay gave them iron. The Portuguese stole from the Khoi and had an altercation with them at which the Khoi won. It is called battle of salt river. Then the dutch came in the year 1652. The writings of the Khoi were found all over South Africa which is proof that they were in all parts of the country. The very same Dutch traded with the Khoi and the San people. Then what in the world do you mean the country was practically empty. The Dutch and the English were the last group to arrive in South Africa.
@@lebohangmathibe2374 please have look at this video and come-back
ruclips.net/video/_HscLx0isjQ/видео.html
I said and repeat : Africa was nearly empty when Whites came, Whites build wealth in South, blacks immigrants came in big numbers from countries around to benefit living in the nearby successful White country as they always did and still do nowadays.
you will also benefit reading this
www.bing.com/search?q=south+africa+anti+immigration
If he melieve the two races should be separate, why didn't they just create 2 states, and allow the blacks to have their own government rather than be under white rule? Obvious the 2 together as you got after apartide didn't work we see the mess, but why not a 2 state solution like Palestinians want in Israel?
How about everyone goes back to their continent
I think that would've been the best, then we wouldn't have had all this "it's my land, not yours" drama going on
Be warned... Lizobuya lelizwe by force because the struggle is not over yet....
OLIVER NKAGISENG MASHEGO Stop speaking a European language and using Western technology, then we can talk about your struggle.
Dont be bitter chief Relax.... wena jst seat back and watch. A drastic shift is coming... its your choice to choose if you will be part of the change or you will be against it.
I soo wish you could see my Family buddy.. Starving is the least of our worries. Am not even moved by your comment bcoz ur r just another brainwashed pale skin being who believes tht anyting Dark skinned is a symbol of failure... so if you don't mind Mr Stone... i have better things to do n i suggest u gt a hobby urself oryt kid.
I have a hobby, Mr. Mashego and it's bringing inconvenient truths to light. You maybe part of SA's upper middle class but how can you support racist landgrabs? Dark skin is not symbol of failure, exclusion is.
Jy is heeltemal reg !
Apartheid propaganda at its best.......
Please elaborate, if you are able to.
'Satisfied that this policy leads to their salvation"
The little houses could be very charming once made a home. We see this now in the USA for “green” purposes to live in small quarters.
I would’ve instilled a birth control agenda to the Apartheid system that would pay you or trade with you some land for a “snip” job. This would’ve curbed the population issue of 12 blacks to 3 Anglo’s. The inequity is in the numbers. This would’ve facilitated a mature passing over through time
of real responsibilities.
With out proper birth control (volunteer via neutering ) apartheid wouldn’t hold up, and it didn’t because of the number disparity of 12/3
The sprawl issue, and medicine and over population were the death nail. The Pill wasn’t invented yet sadly.
In the USA, people tended to all live in their own “gheto’s” for a lack of a better word. Gays lived in the Village of NYC.
Anglo’s of all strips lived in Levitt’s Towns all over America.
Blacks in the USA really did earn their Place over time. We are mixed because we have created equality through checks and balances and through hard work and great sacrifice. People here in the States really do have to prove their worthiness no matter who they are. The welfare issues were a mistake, along with the “projects”. Who ever you are: we don’t respect property we do not own. Ownership is the key.
Apartheid only can work for so long, and several generations of resentment came out of it, and now 25 years later that resentment will be passed on for centuries in the future....like the Irish having to eat grass in the 1840’s, yet if they also grew beets they surely wouldn’t have starved. Germany suffered the same parasitic worm as in Ireland, but they (by pure chance) also grew beets.
South Africa will self distrust as we are seeing now (2019) with the black migrants looking for work, and the marauding of Iranian shops and Chinese shops. This is a whole other issue of the inability to evolve properly. The toolbox still isn’t developed yet. They cannot understand that business isn’t personal. Business is just that. Business is like a good mold.
The endless infighting of silly silly tribalism will be (and is now) their downfall. Only Capitalism can save South Africa. The world will not invest in an unstable ethnocentric Nation as it is now. The “rainbow” was a pure nonsense and everyone knew it to be so.
By the way, the American South looked like a paradise once too.
I miss Anglo neatness and cleanliness. I get it. But I also know that that’s all for naught if it’s only going to be destroyed beyond repair in one night of rage.
The goal is to instill Anglo manners and morass into the greater culture.
Nothing is more gratifying then truly successful black Americans who succeeded in unbelievable odds and made it. Equality is truly earned and you can’t take that away from anyone.
Nothing is more honorable then to give others a chance to prove themselves.
A Marriage doesn’t work when in separation, and not do a People.
#gaysfortrump2020
Problem is the following. The increase in "lives" in South-Afrifa was not only because of procreation, but also because the country took such good care of its people, that all of the neighboring countries' people wanted in on it. En that is exactly how we fell into this pot of steaming shit!
@@brandenvandermerwe5352 That's true...but not the core of the issue.
The real cause of the problem was Agricultural Mechanization. It was known by the government, in advance, that 30% of the black South African population would become unemployed because of agricultural mechanization.
Homelands were created to absorb this inevitable sudden rise in unemployment and all the issues that come with mass unemployment.
When you dump large numbers of unskilled unemployed into an closed off area, of course social issues will fester there.
After a decade or two of festering, those neglected populations were reabsorbed en mass. The flood gates were opened.
Everyone felt the sudden impact of change, but most didn't know the cause or the source of that sudden change.
This is a lot of nonsense. Apartheid intentions were never just and so was the system.
@@brandenvandermerwe5352 Well, it can't be hard to take care of your people if you have 30 mil people producing for 2 mil.
You are extremely racist
I'm currently in Cape Town and i can see the wounds of apartheid is not healed. Mandela did a great job by being diplomatic and not paying back those who hurt him thereby bridging the gap in some way. But from my observation I can say there's still no justice because how are blacks resettled and now when the GAC (1950) ended, how come the locals didn't get their land back? Blacks are still much disadvantaged in SA
Evil and devilish acts by the so called “God fearing” people… go figure!!!!
I also find it soo fuckin ironic that apartheid apologists and the neo nazi cults in SA base their ideologies on christianity... So apartheid South Africa was basically a Christian version of the extremist Islamic states we have today 🤣
Funny how the blks call for murdering people because of the colour of their skin. They also show how racist and hateful they are but then call themselves Christians. LOL
I worked in Mamelodi! No longer a very nice place- but certainly not awful. I do think that separate development for separate cultures may be best (take the catastrophe that was Yugoslavia for example)- The problem with Apartheid (as I see it) is that it was not just. Land was NOT fairly and equitably distributed (the homelands for example were never actually viable as states), We white South Africans DID want to take advantage of cheap labour (instead of doing the jobs ourselves.) And there undeniably WAS the denigration and subjugation of the native cultures/peoples- if these things had not happened- we may have seen a much more just and peaceful South Africa than the one in which we find ourselves.
Apartheid Justice system.
Some are more protected by law than others.
Some have more human rights than others.
The system applies and protects some more than others
Only if they didn't cause division south Africa would have been a powerful, Zimbabwe as well
I am trying to research about HIV in South Africa and came across this video... apartheid/racial segregation/no resources in bantustans /less education/no healthcare etc. all increased HIV among young Black African women. All rooted from apartheid...
Funny how the black population doubled in 30 years, although according to mainshit-media everyone has deadly AIDS 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Well you failed, if thats what you wrote down.
You can never expect sympathy from the devil.
Apartheid should NEVER had happened, they were narrow minded in their understanding of integrating people.
@Luís Filipe Andrade Keep the each other's culture,build each other's home,rule by yourselves...
@Luís Filipe Andrade the blacks wanted to live in houses, so the government built them for them. The blacks wanted paid work, so the whites hired them.
Apartied was and still racist to this day and you can dress it up with it was better for black people not lies it's morally wrong so sorry you lost dutch 🙋☘️
@@crazychicSHENA so..... what you are saying is that a black government is a good idea?
@@dreamdiction sis maan! People like you infested the southern tip of Africa.
The stories my grand father used to tell me i can only say i am glad that i was not born in that era
@Colonel Of the 82nd Airborne if you think you are going to get some emotional reply from you are out of luck. I happen to like the racist i smile abit when one farmer goes to the ground...😎😎 for the tears of my grandfather and many who were starved and humiliated. Please remain racist so that our poeple can wake up to the reality and the absolute truth😊😊
@Colonel Of the 82nd Airborne oh wow so you want to make a comparison between the Continent of Europe with South Africa !! A former british colony that was exploited for rescources and then murder of the native lands who were latter forcesd to work in the mines to keep the empire ritch and latter the Afrikaaner nationalists who came and do their part of distruction for at least a half a century but before that the empire exploited and looted the countey for 2 centuries but we must compare them with Europe after 20 years of the socalled fredom...if i may ask how do we compare South Africa with the continent of Europe??
@Colonel Of the 82nd Airborne you are not consistant in your arguments so i am just going to leave it here
@Colonel Of the 82nd Airborne yes, I can tell what kind of person you are
Yes apartheid was wrong. But you cant deny, these people knew how to build and progress a countries infrastructure. Dude built a 30 000+ community in just 4 years (taking into account this was 30 years ago).
Imagine invading someones land and then punishing for being there ,thank god this shitty system is over.
This invation claim applies only to today.
Imagine invading your land, looting your shit - breaking everything and having to pay for them to multiply.
@@lava_za that’s right. Our shit , not your shit . So I don’t know why it bothers you anyways.
@@lava_za 🙄🙄🙄
Tell these delusional, entitled, hateful, inhuman naccistical pycopaths, the world is in confusion, chaotic times because of their greed and entitlement.
This video must have been taken in the 50s or 60s....looking at the landscape...14/12/2024
His first sentence was a lie they have lived for 300 years
At least they built housed for the people
Muhammad Nizamie compared to all the other crap they had to go through, housing would have been the very least of their worries my dear.
Nothing was done out of Goodwill, there was always an agenda.
Ungrateful my ass! They needed workers to wipe their kid's asses. The fc going bare minimum.
@@henryg3313 uyanya wena msunu wenja.
First of all who let you in our land? ...you should all go back where you came from...and sleep with animals , you fake ass bitch.
@@siyadlamini4247 You are to young. You know nothing.
As march as homeland system was bad - The New South Africa is worse for the black minority groups - Ndebele - Venda - Swazi - Tsonga - Shangaan. These groups are so irrelevant politically and socially in the NEW SOUTH AFRICA. IF you are NOT - Sotho - Zulu -Xhosa - Tswana then you are not a relevent and Important black South African in this New Soufh Africa. Everything is Nguni or Sotho . If Zulus say somerhing everything goes. We saw this 1994 ( Ifp ) - We saw this in July 2021- ( Zuma ).
all they should have done was divide the land up equally and give every race their own land to govern and sort themselves out done
I mean that was pretty much what apartheid was.
@John Muhleisen aside from the 'equally' part of course
yes divide it along ethnic and linguistic lines
Did the Africans asked to be divided? The point here is that the settler wanted to divide and rule so that he get a better chance at controlling the smaller groups. Otherwise there is no progressive reason for dividing Africans
Those houses are so big!!!! WOW!
😂😂😂
They are bigger than houses many people have in the west today.
True
Those houses are also still standing today. Unlike the crap the ANC has built.
@@dannyarcher6370 anc will always be better than Nazis
US did not impose any sanctions against the Apartheid regime, in fact, the economic ties became strong toward 80s. US has no moral ground to question any other country in this world about how they rule their people. US accusing North Korea on how they treat their people is a joke!
False, the Anti Apartheid act of 1986 placed these American sanctions on South Africa:
ec. 301. Prohibition on the importation of krugerrands
Sec. 302. Prohibition on the importation of military articles
Sec. 303. Prohibition on the importation of products from parastatal organizations
Sec. 304. Prohibition on computer exports to South Africa
Sec. 305. Prohibition on loans to the Government of South Africa
Sec. 306. Prohibition on air transportation with South Africa
Sec. 307. Prohibitions on nuclear trade with South Africa
Sec. 308. Government of South Africa bank accounts
Sec. 309. Prohibition on importation of uranium and coal from South Africa
Sec. 310. Prohibition on new investment in South Africa
Sec. 311. Termination of certain provisions
Sec. 312. Policy toward violence or terrorism
Sec. 313. Termination of tax treaty and protocol
Sec. 314. Prohibition on United States Government procurement from South Africa
Sec. 315. Prohibition on the promotion of United States tourism in South Africa
Sec. 316. Prohibition on United States Government assistance to, investment in, or subsidy for trade with South Africa
Sec. 317. Prohibition on sale or export of items on Munition List
Sec. 318. Munitions list sales, notification
Sec. 319. Prohibition on importation of South African agricultural products and food
Sec. 320. Prohibition on importation of iron and steel
Sec. 321. Prohibition on exports of crude oil and petroleum products
Sec. 322. Prohibition on cooperation with the armed forces of South Africa
Sec. 323. Prohibition on sugar imports
@@travelsofmunch1476 only on the media these sanctions existed, but in real life the was no such
@@ndumisomaurice5089 Yeah they were...
Black aren't your people, go back to Europe
"Salvation"?
wow.. impressing speech!
Pure self-justifying propaganda.
Finding ‘Bantu people that has the Inclination, training and moral courage to develop their own people, with all the possible assistance from the Government.’ never happened I guess! Explains the corrupt criminal state void of morality cesspool called SA, less that 26 years since Mulungu left. It’s the way of Africa. But the Chinese are coming and they have a better alternative...
You go through so much length to dehumanise Africans for what? We never said europe shouldn't have their own natural resources, God gave that to Africa.
You came, you twisted history, the Bible to fit your delusional, entitled, hateful, inhuman naccistical pysco brain. But your time is coming.
We "Europeans"
“We Europeanise” today they deny being called this.
lol learn your history. 30%er
Not the best argument for it...
i have no words
Lol this is the nonsense they spread in Europe and America.. People believe that apartheid was propaganda
No apologies from my side, but seriously? People are worse of now, are witnessing whats happening in your country, you have no words but you also benefited.
Mmmh. There will always be apartheid, only difference now, 10 million jobless. No housing? Anc in power with land and everything.
Explain that one seeing you were there in 57? Time is over to take racial slur from people who dont care
The audacity
@@victortshoba1216 go do some research before you ome with racist remarks.
Iziko museum have a great research branch. African studies. Black professors writing about apartheid, with actual proof and knowledge.
We in 2020, surely you can say more about your people? Do some research buddy, you will be well surprised how african kings sold of their own people tobeuropeans for financial gain. There is so many documents about that time.
So lets see if you care enough about your people
@@conradduplooy6570 No excuses. Your people were not the ones who were oppressed. In a nutshell, the Afrikaaner government got away with genocide and we had the decency to let the past be the past for a greater good.
You can justify anything. Justifiably, this awful man was a bigoted racist. Apartheid was about power & money & the fear of losing it.
Learn your history 30%er
I think the housing in the apartheid year was much better build than today they also stole money out of the coffers of the government but it's worst today and just to let you know I don't condone the apartheid eara
Stealing money from government they learnt from the racist's, who stole more money than the useless ANC.
Imagine taking a boat to Europe nd when I arrive tell them " I know I just came here, but it's our Land together now"🤣😂
They arrived in an empty land.
@@mattmccallum2007no south africa was inhabited by khoisan people
@@zeke5745 who numbered in hundreds . Most of it was totally empty
@@mattmccallum2007 do you have a source for that? even if that was true i don’t see how that justifies the colonization of south africa and the brutalization of the natives.
@@zeke5745 they weren’t brutalized . It was empty land that was ripe to be developed
Jesus must restore things in this country for our hearts are wicked and wounded. Our cares and burdens are heavy and the logs in our own eyes are heavier. Be blessed friends and even those who are enemies, be blessed.
👨🏿💻🍿 Balls
If you come to my place, found me primitive and then you use my resources to give yourself a good, l also hv a right to demand that good life you are giving yourself. Its not like lm the one who came to your place. You left yours that had no resources and invaded my space n l welcomed you. Give me that good life no matter how primitive you think l am, l demand that good life in my space too.
Pale man got the game fucked up where ever he goes !!!
Pale face man gave you food and infrastructure. Your very language was created by the pale face man. Show some gratitude damn racist
Is that why South Africa is the most wealthy African country while the African countries that were never colonized are the poorest ones?
restore the monarchy in eithiopia. long live the emperor
@@conradduplooy6570 language itself wasnt created by whites. i suppose you mean writing system.
@@denkedeligekanal9059 writing was made by the sumerians
They failed to mention that you were told where you can or cannot take a shit based on your skin color
And where you can or cannot sit, or which beach you can and cannot go to.
The beauty of evil
He couldnt have been more wrong. lol
Trevor Khaba cry baby
frikkies333 whos crying ? We won.
Trevor Khaba yes you won but the country is a 4the world country
frikkies333 4th world country ? Then why are all the expats flooding back to this 4th world ? If you dont want to be here frikkie leave, I dont understand racists. Like what are you still doing here ? theres a frigid, narrow road, tiny yard, overpriced, over taxed village in europe waiting for you. Leave
You sure did win, you won poverty and a crumbling society. Congrats, it aids were a trophy, your country certainly has the biggest one! Bravo!
When i was is SA 2011 white girl said to me i just can't take u home cuz dad will punch me for bringing black boy to the house🤣 i was like oh I'm losing the white girl bang now🤣🤣
Great Great so Truly said.
Hideous
Yeah, it is hideous that a three hundred year old civilization became a nightmare world in just two decades. The dispossessed Afrikaner man is still waiting for some black to tell him what part of his life improved after Apartheid ended. South African news today doesn't sound any better than anything under apartheid. Frankly it sounds much worse. www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/cape-town-cops-in-the-dock-for-allegedly-arresting-innocent-man-to-replace-escaped-suspect-20210720
Nonsense!!!
You see ghis is exactly why you dont whant to see the trueth. Look behind him. There ware houses build and schools build. You whome hase never build enithing in your live will never see the truth it is 25 years after seperitnis. And your south africa is falling apart. With crime at ists heights tell me i am wrong
@@cronjevandermerwe8864 what the fuck is wrong with you people? can't you just accept that you fucked us up and all you can say is that "there were houses built", did we ask for those crappy houses? because we had our own farmlands that your fucked up people decide to take and put us in fucked up houses in very polluted locations that themselves including you know very well that you wouldn't have lived in if you had the choice so just shut the fuck up please!!!!!!!
racism
Kinda funny to think they base this ideology on their "benovelent" christian beliefs... Pretty sure they ignored the "love your neighbor as you love yourself" 🤣
Have you watched the video. Apparently not. Also: What does 'neighbor' mean.
I miss apartheid
stupid
If you miss apartheid then go to Canada, they love refugees
Lol your drama and liers are over boer sorry 👏😘
Because you are an ignorant idiot like the fool on the video.
@John Muhleisen False.
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