I like the way you explain what mods do & require. I tend to have trouble understanding explanations that sound too ‘techy’ so this feels much more doable.
I try to be friendly but I did try to explain these quickly because no one wants to watch a 30min video , but if you need any help just ask I’ll always comment
Floors and pavements so insanely clean, not a cigarettes, a chewing gum, a plastic bag, ah ah neither an excrement, an old blood sign, a smashed chest or a broken wine glass or bottle, a spider web, or some boring wasp... and all that dead wolves that magically vanish without leaving at least a sign of blood or a broken teeth... So insanely clean! Beautiful! 🙂
This channel is a hidden gem! Definitely earned my sub. May i ask what enb and weather mod you are running with this list? It really helps with the natural atmosphere. Also, do you know if this list is conpatible with seasons of skyrim?
Love the visual overhaul,one addition I would make,s6o6t's mundas stones(At the moment this mod is hidden on the nexus. It can still be found on archive.) I feel it's one those details that not alot of people consider,the original look of the standing stones themselves kinda looked like they were carved out of wood to me,not stone.
Oh i didnt even know about that lol guess I got a new mod to add, there’s a lot of mods I left out I kinda made this in kind of lower end pcs so I didn’t go all out
oh you can definitely handle these with that just not the enb lol , you just have to use cathedral asset optimizer and lower things to 1k , i had a ryzen 3 3100 gtx 1650 , i still have the ryzen 3 3100, need to change it soon , but for now yeah you could handle these with the right settings
@@mastercheesey Oh,Definitely. I'm one those types that just loves to do research. On a personal note,if I ever woke up one day and found out "I'm Rich",I'd go PC shopping at Microcenter with reckless abandon. We're talking like Z790 Godlike motherboard,Ryzen 9,256gb DDR5,And an RTX 4090. Right now though all I can do is wish I had that 🤷♂️.
Love your videos but I wouldn't exactly call many of your recommendations fps friendly. I tested most of the popular grass mods in different areas on a vanilla profile and Folkvangr was one of the worst when it came to performance (unsurprisingly Realistic Grass was the best) Lux is also something you need to be cautious with, specially if you combine it with some interior overhauls. The split meshes used to combat light flickering unfortunately increase draw calls in almost absurd ways in some places (some areas like the Bannered Mare can reach 20k draw calls with either JK's or Eek's interiors and go as low as 30fps even on high end hardware. For reference anything above 12k draw calls is already bad. Draw calls are CPU bound, so graphics cards make no difference) Lastly, downscalling textures is only really helpful if your reaching/exceeding your VRAM limit. Texture resolution byitself doesn't really impact framerates that much.
Lux only drops you that low if you combine it with interior overhauls like you said, by itself it doesn’t go above 8k drawcalls, just like if you use jk without Lux its already 8k so if you combine the two the fps are going to be bad inherently, but folkvangr fps depends on grass distance and if you have grass cache done, I’ve noticed more fps with folkvangr than with veydosebrom but you could always switch it out for verdant , and downscaling will always help, textures will always drop fps no matter what , you would only say that if you had a good gpu and had the vram to spare, but on low end when I was using a gfx 1650 if I had a landscape texture above 1k I would notice a drop and yeah not much vram on a 1650 already but lowering textures will always help and also deleting 3d loss that some mods come with so no matter what you do using cathedral asset optimizer is 100% necessary unless you rather have your game using 19gbs of beam 24/7, with this list all the mods i recommended i my vram doesn’t go above 3-4vram and when I had the 1650 it was around 2 because i downscaled EVERYTHING to 1k no 2 or 4k textures but I have some now because I upgraded gpus but I still downscaled a lot to 1-2k, the heaviest thing in this list from all my fps testing while on a 1650 is aspens ablaze, but you like i said in the video can downscale those to 512 and wouldn’t notice a quality difference unless you face-plant one, but all in all, 1.) yes lower resolution even if you aren’t low on vram unless you have a 3090 or 4090 2.) Lux can and will hurt if you use it with interior overhauls 3.) most fps effiencient grass with great looks is cathedral landscapes with cathedral 3d pine grass but people wanted hyper realistic without breaking their pc. With this list I do have a 3070 now but my cpu is still a 3 3100 i dont drop below 60 unless im making a video and have everything on ultra settings then i go to 44 at the very lowest and that’s because of my cpu
@@mastercheesey Yeah veydosebrom is amongst the worst. When I tested grass mods I tested them all in vanilla profile on MO2 using the exact same settings for all the grass mods to avoid discrepancies. As for the texture resolution, the only time where it mattered other than exceeding VRAM was when using some ENB presets. Certain shaders have a harder time dealing with alpha/transparency and vegetation/tree textures all have lots of transparency in them (which is why in part wilderness is where framerates tend to drop the most) I personally don't think it's worth sacrificing texture detail if you have enough VRAM. It's better to keep resolution sizes tied to whatever you're texturing. For example It's perfectly fine to use even 8K textures for large creatures like dragons but on the other hand going over 512x512 for a spoon texture would be incredibly wasteful. Don't get me wrong, optimizing does help in general , but in many cases it has to do with some mod authors still packing uncompressed textures or textures without mipmaps, or simply using absurd texture sizes for objects that don't need it (like the spoon example above) I'm still stuck using a 7 years old PC (i5 8600k OC'ed at 5ghz, GTX 1080, 32GB DDR4) so I still have to constantly test things to keep my framerates in check.
Is the Zeus edit of folkvangr really less taxing than full on folkvangr? I haven’t tried it yet. I did try veydosebrom again but then I realized it doesn’t have green tundra grass. Or any tundra grass. Then I remembered, the whiterun tundra has no grass by default.
In the rift definitely and tundra but forest in such not that big of a difference, im actually working on a grass patch and I’ll have people test it for fps based on system
Amazing video and explanations, also released right when I was searching for a guide like this, Also can you tell me what your PC specs are and what you consider to be low end PCs, my laptop has a 1650 with 8 gb ram and I am not sure if it could handle everything here... It just looks... Too beautiful
What you can handle depends on how far your shadows go, lol I used to have a 1650 and used this set up minus the grass because that’s new-ish, just have to downscale with cathedral asset optimizer, also no enb but even without enb this looks great
@@mastercheesey I see, thank for replying so quickly, I have subbed cause I like all your mods, as soon as my laptop comes back from repair, I'll start using your videos as reference for my new load order
For lower lower lower end pc like mine(I have i5-4th gen with 16gb ram and integrated graphics) try out Skyrim 202X 1k version, spaghetti's overhauls, happy little trees, northern roads, grass fields+grass fps booster, community shaders + klarity reshade preset, SMIM, amidianborn stuffs, realistic waters two, parallax caves, rudy HQ nordic ruins and ryn's mods. For npcs I use Racial Body Morphs, Diversity, Tempered skin for women, BHUNP 3BBA👀, Skysight Skins for men and Rustic Clothing and Sons of Skyrim armors. I don't get that much fps in game(average of 35+ fps even on crowded places) but hey my game looks beautiful but at the same time performance friendly I also downscale most of my textures if there's no 1k versions.
@@mastercheesey nahh it's a pc but its very old I've had this pc since 2014 lol. I haven't actually tried cathedral landscapes and 3d pine grass tho I'll try it later.
Its a great combo it’s what I used to use, for no fps loss, this list in the video 100% has better fps options but everyone wanted the hyper realism so I decided to show what most people use in their screenshots on reddit and on RUclips
@@mastercheesey aww man its actually significantly better lol I now have denser grass and more fps in forests, before I used to have unstable 20ish fps in forests now I get 23-25 stable fps(with 40 iMinGrass settings before and after) thanks for the suggestion bro!
Not at all if you downscale Blubbo trees and aspens those are the heaviest as usual with most tree overhauls but if you downscale those you’re good to go
I wanted to mimic the showcase of that unreal engine 5 showcase if you search skyrim unreal engine, also I wanted to keep fps. But that’s pretty much it.
I have a rtx 3070 ryzen 3 3100 32gbs of ram, , my fps in cities is always 60 and outside is usually 58-60 (after I redid lods and grass cache) what usually hurts people the most is grass distance and shadow distance if you use grass cache you can pretty much turn grass distance to 0 it really helps, and shadows depend on how much you’re willing to sacrifice, I have them at about 7k distance lol not that high but if I had a better pc id go all out
honestly im cpu locked lol if i had a 3060 with a good ish cpu i could easily never drop below 60 and people in discord keep telling me that but im saving up , ya know , i could easily make a way better fps environment list if i was going full on 4090 ryzen 7 list but i wanted to tone it down a bit
Many good mods with some not so good ones like Skyrim 3D rock, excellent aesthetically terrible technically, creates a lot of bugs since in Skyrim rocks are often used to seat characters or to place objects on them and since S3DR changes the shape of the stones glitches occur here and there. Lux Via is real crap full of clutter randomly placed without any logic and taste
yeah none of these are perfect like some people avoid northern roads entirely because of the cluster of patches and annoyances the only reason i use it for the complex northern roads, and i use lux via because the bridges from northern roads in some places aren't that great, but this is what most list uses like skyrim ultima that people love i could name every single environmental mod from that without looking at his list
@@mastercheesey let's say that Nexus is a mass of sheep who follow the latest trend blindly but the experts know how to distinguish rubbish from well-made stuff, Step is perhaps the only guide made with criteria by truly capable people
I like the way you explain what mods do & require. I tend to have trouble understanding explanations that sound too ‘techy’ so this feels much more doable.
I try to be friendly but I did try to explain these quickly because no one wants to watch a 30min video , but if you need any help just ask I’ll always comment
@@mastercheeseyANOTHER GREAT SKYRIM VID,Thank you!!!!!
Floors and pavements so insanely clean, not a cigarettes, a chewing gum, a plastic bag, ah ah neither an excrement, an old blood sign, a smashed chest or a broken wine glass or bottle, a spider web, or some boring wasp... and all that dead wolves that magically vanish without leaving at least a sign of blood or a broken teeth...
So insanely clean!
Beautiful! 🙂
Nice list my dood
This channel is a hidden gem! Definitely earned my sub. May i ask what enb and weather mod you are running with this list? It really helps with the natural atmosphere.
Also, do you know if this list is conpatible with seasons of skyrim?
Considering this list is before I made my grass patch it used folkvangr and ulvenwald and blubbos so yes I believe it is
@@mastercheesey and the enb good sir?
@@TheStuffedIguana oh sorry thats cabbage enb, i made a slight edit to the lighting in the day but thats it
@@mastercheesey brilliant. Thank you very much, appreciate the time to reply
Love the visual overhaul,one addition I would make,s6o6t's mundas stones(At the moment this mod is hidden on the nexus.
It can still be found on archive.)
I feel it's one those details that not alot of people consider,the original look of the standing stones themselves kinda looked like they were carved out of wood to me,not stone.
Oh i didnt even know about that lol guess I got a new mod to add, there’s a lot of mods I left out I kinda made this in kind of lower end pcs so I didn’t go all out
@@mastercheesey I feel that,it would include my PC if that's the case 😅.
(16Gb 1333Mhz DDR3,AMD FX4350 CPU,GTX 1050ti)
oh you can definitely handle these with that just not the enb lol , you just have to use cathedral asset optimizer and lower things to 1k , i had a ryzen 3 3100 gtx 1650 , i still have the ryzen 3 3100, need to change it soon , but for now yeah you could handle these with the right settings
@@mastercheesey Oh,Definitely.
I'm one those types that just loves to do research.
On a personal note,if I ever woke up one day and found out "I'm Rich",I'd go PC shopping at Microcenter with reckless abandon.
We're talking like Z790 Godlike motherboard,Ryzen 9,256gb DDR5,And an RTX 4090.
Right now though all I can do is wish I had that 🤷♂️.
You linked nature of the wildlands but it doesn't seem like you used it in the video. Maybe I missed something.
Thats because I linked forest debris only
Love your videos but I wouldn't exactly call many of your recommendations fps friendly.
I tested most of the popular grass mods in different areas on a vanilla profile and Folkvangr was one of the worst when it came to performance (unsurprisingly Realistic Grass was the best)
Lux is also something you need to be cautious with, specially if you combine it with some interior overhauls. The split meshes used to combat light flickering unfortunately increase draw calls in almost absurd ways in some places (some areas like the Bannered Mare can reach 20k draw calls with either JK's or Eek's interiors and go as low as 30fps even on high end hardware. For reference anything above 12k draw calls is already bad. Draw calls are CPU bound, so graphics cards make no difference)
Lastly, downscalling textures is only really helpful if your reaching/exceeding your VRAM limit. Texture resolution byitself doesn't really impact framerates that much.
Lux only drops you that low if you combine it with interior overhauls like you said, by itself it doesn’t go above 8k drawcalls, just like if you use jk without Lux its already 8k so if you combine the two the fps are going to be bad inherently, but folkvangr fps depends on grass distance and if you have grass cache done, I’ve noticed more fps with folkvangr than with veydosebrom but you could always switch it out for verdant , and downscaling will always help, textures will always drop fps no matter what , you would only say that if you had a good gpu and had the vram to spare, but on low end when I was using a gfx 1650 if I had a landscape texture above 1k I would notice a drop and yeah not much vram on a 1650 already but lowering textures will always help and also deleting 3d loss that some mods come with so no matter what you do using cathedral asset optimizer is 100% necessary unless you rather have your game using 19gbs of beam 24/7, with this list all the mods i recommended i my vram doesn’t go above 3-4vram and when I had the 1650 it was around 2 because i downscaled EVERYTHING to 1k no 2 or 4k textures but I have some now because I upgraded gpus but I still downscaled a lot to 1-2k, the heaviest thing in this list from all my fps testing while on a 1650 is aspens ablaze, but you like i said in the video can downscale those to 512 and wouldn’t notice a quality difference unless you face-plant one, but all in all, 1.) yes lower resolution even if you aren’t low on vram unless you have a 3090 or 4090 2.) Lux can and will hurt if you use it with interior overhauls 3.) most fps effiencient grass with great looks is cathedral landscapes with cathedral 3d pine grass but people wanted hyper realistic without breaking their pc. With this list I do have a 3070 now but my cpu is still a 3 3100 i dont drop below 60 unless im making a video and have everything on ultra settings then i go to 44 at the very lowest and that’s because of my cpu
@@mastercheesey Yeah veydosebrom is amongst the worst. When I tested grass mods I tested them all in vanilla profile on MO2 using the exact same settings for all the grass mods to avoid discrepancies.
As for the texture resolution, the only time where it mattered other than exceeding VRAM was when using some ENB presets. Certain shaders have a harder time dealing with alpha/transparency and vegetation/tree textures all have lots of transparency in them (which is why in part wilderness is where framerates tend to drop the most)
I personally don't think it's worth sacrificing texture detail if you have enough VRAM. It's better to keep resolution sizes tied to whatever you're texturing. For example It's perfectly fine to use even 8K textures for large creatures like dragons but on the other hand going over 512x512 for a spoon texture would be incredibly wasteful.
Don't get me wrong, optimizing does help in general , but in many cases it has to do with some mod authors still packing uncompressed textures or textures without mipmaps, or simply using absurd texture sizes for objects that don't need it (like the spoon example above)
I'm still stuck using a 7 years old PC (i5 8600k OC'ed at 5ghz, GTX 1080, 32GB DDR4) so I still have to constantly test things to keep my framerates in check.
Is the Zeus edit of folkvangr really less taxing than full on folkvangr? I haven’t tried it yet. I did try veydosebrom again but then I realized it doesn’t have green tundra grass. Or any tundra grass.
Then I remembered, the whiterun tundra has no grass by default.
In the rift definitely and tundra but forest in such not that big of a difference, im actually working on a grass patch and I’ll have people test it for fps based on system
Amazing video and explanations, also released right when I was searching for a guide like this,
Also can you tell me what your PC specs are and what you consider to be low end PCs, my laptop has a 1650 with 8 gb ram and I am not sure if it could handle everything here... It just looks... Too beautiful
What you can handle depends on how far your shadows go, lol I used to have a 1650 and used this set up minus the grass because that’s new-ish, just have to downscale with cathedral asset optimizer, also no enb but even without enb this looks great
@@mastercheesey I see, thank for replying so quickly, I have subbed cause I like all your mods, as soon as my laptop comes back from repair, I'll start using your videos as reference for my new load order
You should pick up that 4k mora tapinella
How do I get folkvangr Zeus edit?
For lower lower lower end pc like mine(I have i5-4th gen with 16gb ram and integrated graphics) try out Skyrim 202X 1k version, spaghetti's overhauls, happy little trees, northern roads, grass fields+grass fps booster, community shaders + klarity reshade preset, SMIM, amidianborn stuffs, realistic waters two, parallax caves, rudy HQ nordic ruins and ryn's mods. For npcs I use Racial Body Morphs, Diversity, Tempered skin for women, BHUNP 3BBA👀, Skysight Skins for men and Rustic Clothing and Sons of Skyrim armors. I don't get that much fps in game(average of 35+ fps even on crowded places) but hey my game looks beautiful but at the same time performance friendly I also downscale most of my textures if there's no 1k versions.
Is that a laptop? And for grass have you ever tried cathedral landscapes + 3d pine grass? I have more questions but I won’t smother
@@mastercheesey nahh it's a pc but its very old I've had this pc since 2014 lol.
I haven't actually tried cathedral landscapes and 3d pine grass tho I'll try it later.
Its a great combo it’s what I used to use, for no fps loss, this list in the video 100% has better fps options but everyone wanted the hyper realism so I decided to show what most people use in their screenshots on reddit and on RUclips
@@mastercheesey aww man its actually significantly better lol I now have denser grass and more fps in forests, before I used to have unstable 20ish fps in forests now I get 23-25 stable fps(with 40 iMinGrass settings before and after) thanks for the suggestion bro!
What are your system specs bro? Cool vid btw
I have a rtx 3070, ryzen 3 3100 (im cpu limited) and 32gbs of ram
@@mastercheesey nice. I played on Walmart crap-tops for 17 years. 1660 is my first actual graphics card lol. I have to build a new one piecemeal
Sick ass video as always!
I love the way ur fire looks, what mod do u use for fire? Been searching for YEARS!!
that's embers xd lol its in the description , it overhauls fire, magic fire, pits, burning wood, all of it
@@mastercheesey Thanks!! 👍🏾💯
Awesome!
Discord link aint working
So these overhauls tax your PC pretty bad?
Not at all if you downscale Blubbo trees and aspens those are the heaviest as usual with most tree overhauls but if you downscale those you’re good to go
what is your computer setup?
I have a rtx 3070 amd ryzen 3 3100 (upgrading soon) 32gbs of ram
what does unreal engine have to do with anything?
I wanted to mimic the showcase of that unreal engine 5 showcase if you search skyrim unreal engine, also I wanted to keep fps. But that’s pretty much it.
clickbait = automatic thumbs down
may i ask your spec/fps/fps in city and outside lol?
I have a rtx 3070 ryzen 3 3100 32gbs of ram, , my fps in cities is always 60 and outside is usually 58-60 (after I redid lods and grass cache)
what usually hurts people the most is grass distance and shadow distance if you use grass cache you can pretty much turn grass distance to 0 it really helps, and shadows depend on how much you’re willing to sacrifice, I have them at about 7k distance lol not that high but if I had a better pc id go all out
@@mastercheesey ah i see i have a 3060 ti. so i'm looking for something which i'll have 60 fps in most cases just not sure what to go on about lol
honestly im cpu locked lol if i had a 3060 with a good ish cpu i could easily never drop below 60 and people in discord keep telling me that but im saving up , ya know , i could easily make a way better fps environment list if i was going full on 4090 ryzen 7 list but i wanted to tone it down a bit
Many good mods with some not so good ones like Skyrim 3D rock, excellent aesthetically terrible technically, creates a lot of bugs since in Skyrim rocks are often used to seat characters or to place objects on them and since S3DR changes the shape of the stones glitches occur here and there. Lux Via is real crap full of clutter randomly placed without any logic and taste
yeah none of these are perfect like some people avoid northern roads entirely because of the cluster of patches and annoyances the only reason i use it for the complex northern roads, and i use lux via because the bridges from northern roads in some places aren't that great, but this is what most list uses like skyrim ultima that people love i could name every single environmental mod from that without looking at his list
@@mastercheesey let's say that Nexus is a mass of sheep who follow the latest trend blindly but the experts know how to distinguish rubbish from well-made stuff, Step is perhaps the only guide made with criteria by truly capable people
Have a hard time with mods than need other mods...makes me avoid them like the plague
Fps friendly for who.. 😂
in this video i had a 1650 and a 3 3100 lol i just downscaled things
i cri seeing lighting like this on xbox