Why I NEVER use CD Baby for music distribution!!!
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One thing that you didn’t talk about which is very important to me and a key factor to take into account is what about when I die? If you don’t pay your membership or additional costs in legacy fees per release, your music will be gone the end of the billing year that you die…comparing costs when factoring this in, Cdbaby makes the most sense in my opinion
I know, right? That's why he doesn't mention it!
Yup.. CD Baby makes more sense to me as well. Many artists will never get heard by more than a small % of the global population, even if they persist in music (and most will quit). So unless you like continually paying large fees with DistroKid, CD Baby seems like the best way to go. I'm glad I watched a different video on this topic, from a different channel, before I made my decision.
Exactly Sir, that is also what i mentioned on my comment.
CD baby will not take your music down if you die and can't pay every year. Bias. It's not always about the money but for most people who would much rather have a legacy and their music remain up forever with CD baby.
i prefer paying one time rather than paying for that one release every year . ( choose cd baby )
or iMusician Digital ;)
Hey are you using cd baby? How is your experience? I thought too, one time paying release upload but if they take percentage maybe they are pushing the song more to for example synch etc..???
And if gente to the point that you can colect your CID of RUclips de 30% goes to you
@@Monaalgaia Idk what you've decided but I've been using CD baby and one thing I've heard was CD baby is best is your not consistent with music, but if you do A LOT of music then distrikid is better... THE ONLY reasons I don't use distrokid is bc if you want to stop using it They take all the music you've posted with them down... and I don't use it bc I'd rather pay once than every year... but the every year thing isn't bad if you're posting a lot, but do your own research and see what's best for you lol if you haven't already
Word u right
IT'S FUNNY HOW HE PROMOTING DISTROKID BUT ... COMMENT SECTION SAID IT ALL
Sponsored by Distrokid lol
Lol totally not biased
@@DrosIntentions they all take that 30% from ytb n fb
Hahaha
Yeah that is what i think.
In the long run CD Baby might be better. Let's say you stopped doing music. With CD Baby you can still be generating revenue years after you are out of the music business. With the others once you stop paying those yearly fees, then your music gets taken down, and no more revenue.
Biggest misconception about distrokid is that they tell you they don't take any percentage out if your music but in the back they charge 15% for the tax reason which is higher than cdbaby 9%. Distrokid is actually more expensive than cdbaby in the long run
Is it really like that? Why would they "pay" taxes for you?
30% of taxes
30% of the money is withheld, if you're an artist from out of the US. Dan Vasc made a great video on how it happened to him.
@@nikhilpranav6915 it doesn't make sense if you are an artist that never been in United States Before 30% is just a scam i prefer european Distribution Services..
@@JA809_ Yeah, it's just a subjective paragraph in a document by the IRS being bent to make theft legal.
I dont agree with you Landon. I rather pay a one time life payment for an album than worrying each year. Also, i rather pay the PRO album to cdbaby because they will collect royalties and you dont have to worry about it. I choose cdbaby
He is very misinformed.. Probably sponsored by distrokid. Distrokid will take also 30% of tax if you live outside USA. And also can take down your album at anytime, as many people have stated
@@Carlosdamiano if you don’t pay the annual fee, then yeah.
They aren’t gonna take it down just because lol
@@jameswhite9300 CD baby NEVER takes your album or song down. You pay once and it is online forever. The percentage may be higher that they take but the other services will end up charging you a lot more over time to keep your music up.
It really does feel like he's being paid by them.
Sponsored By DK
You may wanna mention that DistroKid can (& will) drop you out of nowhere w/ no explanation. I'm proof. I'm at CD Baby, solely because of this. To this day, still have no idea why smh.
Me too.
Yeah,move to Cd baby,its definitely the best of the top,maybe not the best with the standard version,nothing is good today withoit a BMI or Soundexchange
@@jrugeshjoshi6308 He probably works for DISTRO
did this take out all your music
It's a joo thing~ just be white and that is enough.
Sad that there's no 3 or 5-year calculation cause that's where CD Baby shines.
May I ask what’s your experience about cd baby? Pm me ✌🏻
What do u mean by this? Like in the long run after 5 years cd baby is better?
@@kahyui2486 yup, because it's just a one-time fee. You can keep your release forever without additional cost.
@@ygee Distrokid leave a legacy is a one time fee and ur song will be on all platforms forever
I dont understand why people prefer paying annually than just one time payment
but if a artist doesnt make even $50 in a year , then why not have it on CD BABY whith out paying every year ?
Cd Baby no doubt,ive had good experience with them ,even with issues,ive asked them to change some things and they did
Exactly what I’m so confused with this reviews. They keep pushing distrokid. Pay yearly forever. And if you stop paying you need to pay one time or bye bye. Where is the sense?
@@zyquate4849 EXACTLY!!!
@@mrbungle3310 how much CD Baby cut taxes and other charges?
Pls reply.. I m so confused to choose music distribution.
i'm at cd baby. but cd baby won't charge annual fee. like others
thats the main reason why I like them
What’s your experience over time? Do they stay in contact with u? It’s like hard to reach them? What’s about their additional work? Anyway any company has its pro and cons
@@Monaalgaia they have live chat system which no other distributor offer. Support team is amazing you get your answers within 24 hours if you email them
@@VishalPawarMusic thx, I wrote them but it took 2 weeks that I got an answer? 🤔 Did they give you more service for the 9% they take?
I'm not a hater, but you make it look like Distrokid sponsored this video haha .
IMHO, I prefer to pay one single time and then forget about any other fee for the rest of my life. I don't know if, in 20 years time, I would still care about my first release.
Another thing that I don't like about Distrokid is that, yes you only pay one fee per year and get access to unlimited music releases, but you have to pay for Content ID and Shazam too, whilst CD Baby has that covered.
I am not an expert, this is just my opinion after comparing one to another (I even haven't released any music yet, my first single is coming out at the end of this month (I use CD Baby) so you see I'm just gettng started). Just wanted to give my point of view!
I also forgot to say that, yes CD Baby keeps 30% of RUclips royalties, but when you get the copyright notification, you can tell CD Baby "Hey, I am a CD Baby artist, and this is my channel" so that you can receive your money from youtube (keeping 100% of the monetization).
because you will be paid by RUclips, not CD Baby since you told them that it is your channel, and you don't need CD Baby to claim for the ryalties for you
do not quite understand? How is that
I would like to see data on artist results between distribution services. It's interesting to hear keeping 85% of publishing royalties being described as a negative when huge bands whose songs we all know have signed over half, most or ALL of their publishing royalties as part of their deal with record companies and they toured off of the albums releases and sold merchandise before eventually signing a better deal. The band Kansas did that for one example. The publisher owned all of their publishing and then kept investing a lot of money into album production and after a few albums they eventually scored huge with Carry On (my wayward son). The publisher made the investment money back and plenty more and the band went on to sign a better deal when the contract expired and they came back with Dust in the Wind and Point of Know Return which were huge hits and they then kept touring on those hits. A Current lineup still exists. Now, obviously, I am not suggesting that anyone reading this sign over 100% of their publishing! What I am pointing out though is that when people or organizations profit from your success, they are more inclined to help you succeed. I am not putting down this video in an way though. It presents some things that should be considered when making these decisions about who to work with and that includes publishing, but it would be interesting to see if there is any trend between artist results when working with different distributors. Do the ones who have more to gain from your success actually bring you more success?
Exactly right. I mean as for me? I'll take 70% or even 50% of something over 100% of nothing any day. So, for me to be convinced that any Publisher would want my songs to succeed. Common sense would tell you there has to be something in it for them than just the upfront money from releasing a song. Yes. CD Baby probably makes a good amount from those upfront costs. But look how much more they would make if even a small percentage of users had hit songs.
I think "wins in this round" depends on what each individual person is looking for. Personally, I only had to pay $50, one time fee, for the album. Now, I would have to pay it again for each future about I release, and I just now realized that (haha), but there are no yearly fees for the same music I already released.
NOW...as a nobody musician, I don't expect to make enough money from streaming to matter.
Spotify, and similar sites, do not pay JACK for streams. If I'm gonna pay an annual fee, for that same release, I need to be making enough money each year to at least cover the yearly fee.
If I am paying $30 a year, I need to be making $30 a year. To make $30 a year, from Spotify streams, I would have to have have 10,000 streams in a year....just to break even.
I'm not gonna get 10,000 streams in a year...maybe...if I get lucky and figure that part out. :)
But, I'm not gonna rely on that.
I release an album as soon as it is mastered. When I go to record/mix/master, I expect to fork out a bunch of money for all of that, and distribution goes with that chunk. I can pay a 1 time fee of $50, to release each album, and never have to pay anything for it again, and just have music to stream on all the major sites.
So, for me, CDBaby wins EVERY round.
I’ve heard so many horror stories about Distrokid so I won’t even touch them. zero complaints about CD Baby. After watching this video, I guess I need to look into Tunecore.
TuneCore isn't worth it. I'm a slave to it myself.
Here's your first complaint about CD baby. I submitted my song to CD Baby for distro. It restricted me from using the name that I wanted unless I could prove substantial social media presence, when I've fulfilled the requirement, it hasn't responded for 3 weeks. I submitted my song to Distrokid, submission was immediate.
@@GHJ_Music I actually decided to go with DK and it’s been fine for the most part. Glad they accepted your band name
I choose cd baby what they don't tell you is if you forget to pay the annual fee they will
take all your music down. with no hesitation. I'll pay one time fee and your music is up
forever. Peace Ghost Black
Sorry, cd baby has annual fees?
Isn't that distrokid?
Maybe I got it wrong?
But what about the feature tha Cdbaby offers to administrate with collaboration of the local Performing Rights Organization almost everywhere?? I am talking about CDBaby PRO distribution releases. Do the others (Distrokid, Soundrop, Tunecore, ) have a similar kind of distribution&royalties collection for authors/composers/producers that are signed to a local Performing Rights Organization? In Italy there is SIAE; in Canada SOCAM; in France: SACEM ; and so on....... Cdbaby recognized the SIAE in italy; the SOCAM in Canada; the ASCAP in U.S.A....Sacem in France, and so on... What about the others distributors?
you have to pay extra for stores and have to pay yearly its better to use cd baby or tunecore for content id
It's simple. As a massage therapist, I pay Soothe and Zeel like 35% of what they charge the client, but they take care of so much crap that I don't feel like doing, that it's worth it. Same for music. I'd rather focus on the elements of the music creation rather than how much money I can squeeze out of it.
CDs sell good when you have a nice Fanbase. CDBaby also has they own licencing "store" for all Songs. The thing is that there are maby Stores you DONT get payed by, we ourself must get active to get this Money.
Also please remember that the Baarcode Costs also Money when you need one.
To put out Albums also on CD/Vinly it is the best Deal of all few Distributior that offers a physical Distribution. The other once I know of charge you up to 100$ a year for one Album to Distribute on CD.
When you only want to distribute Digital go somewhere else like Ditto or so.
Great information here, but that auto focus on your camera is a real head ache bro.
That's why the band aid.
Yo How to upload music video with cd baby?
Cd baby offers many license like youtube id in one time payment which is not available on distrokid unless you pay additional 9.99 but after you pay for that you still encounter hidden charges made by distrokid
Here is the deal, if you want to pay 10 dollars for each of your valuable songs to stay in shops forever than go with CD Baby, They will take 9% of your income but you will leave a legacy. Your children, grandchildren and so on will be able to hear your music. And you won’t have to leave a $20 dollar chain for you family.
If you want to pay the $20 for unlimited songs and no income is taken (which is good,) go with DistroKid but you will not leave a legacy and every song and everything you did in life was just for the money. So I personally take CDBaby. (You can also pay extra 20 dollars I think on DistroKid to leave your song forever)
(Who Does That)
U can leave legacy on distrokid. U just have to pay like $35 per song.
Oh shit. I just see the bottom of your comment lol. My bad
Legacy in Distrokid costs 49 dollars, not 20!
I feel this a lot. That’s why I went with CD baby.
It's very good compared, but you need to mention this to those smaller composers/musicians!
A hobby composer who doesn't pump out that many songs and is nobody in the music world, the yearly income could be less than the annual fee, so in this case, negative income is generated every year. 69$ one time forever on the other hand can hurt a lot and with that extra commission, but the hobby composer doesn't have to care about it after distributing the music. Another alternative is ONErpm, but I don't think it's that good than CD babe.
Great video. What is the process for pulling your music off of cd baby if you already have your music with them. What is the best way to sell your music personally(website? Other app service). The reason I ask is I would like to just play my music on RUclips (slide or picture videos with the music played with the video). Then leave a link so they can buy the music directly from me. Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge.
cd baby Pro publishing is not applicable in my country( Turkey) so I published my song with standard package . Can't we earn from streaming and downloads with the standard package?
I have added my music video to my youtube page, there is no warning about copyright and cd baby is not mentioned. Will I not earn from youtube views?
How about should I pay every year forever or I’ll pay one time? Please it’s so hard to decide if you don’t know if your songs will be heard or not!
CDbaby, pay once and you don't have to think about it.
I have waaaay too many songs for Distrokid to be taking $5 per song every year. 150 songs.
first I distributed the song on spotify and then uploaded it on youtube.. BUt the video on my youtube channel got copyright claim from the same distributor who published my song on spotify. Can anyone explain?
One thing I absolutely HATE about CDbaby is it’s difficult to view total streams for each album! They will give you sales for the whole album but not streams. You have to choose the drop down menu 500 (to show 500 transactions per page) the problem i have is I have an album with 190 pages i have to click every single one and write down how many streams per page! Its a pain 🤦🏽♂️ i wish it was like tunecore where it not only shows you total sales but also total streams so easily! I been with CDbaby for 20 years now you’d think they’d be better!
I have 20 albums on cdbaby trying to find out how many streams will be a pain and time consuming trying to figure it out! I did one so far and it took 4 hours to do it! 3,348,587 streams! Now 19 more albums to do 😂
Be better CDbaby 🤦🏽♂️
Jesus Christ if you have 20 albums then no wonder you're upset
@@GavinBryce That's what I'm saying 20 Albums lol ... he getting it in
Personally I've used all of these distributors and only CD Baby actually collects and pays. The others say they do but my royalty statements have been drastically different.
I have been albums on CD baby one of them is pro distribution and I just signed to albums on tunecore I have one more album I'll see you baby I think I'm going to sign up for a pro publishing because the album is already there I was wondering if I could accomplish an album on tunecore
What about customer support?
I've been with CD Baby for a couple of years and have released 10 songs so far. A few months ago I added two-factor verification for my login and ever since I am no longer able to access my artist account. I am neither able to manage my existing songs nor can I release new ones. I've written to CD Baby customer support a couple of times but haven't received any response so far. This is just unacceptable...
Does anybody know what I can possibly do in such a situation?
I am sorry to hear that! All in this fucking life has become a lie and scam! It is just to be lucky to get a good service here or there! Good luck to you, greetings!
Can u answer distrokid charges 30% withholding & cd baby also??? 🙌:)
Can anyone tell me how I can delete my CD Baby Account? I dont see a "Delete Account" button lol
I have about 200 Tracks on CD Baby on Distro Kid I have to pay 5 Dollars Anauly per track for synk plus anaul fee?
Wrong! CD baby is fantastic.
Agreed
I also agree. His comparison is absurd.
Been using cd baby like for 5years + now! Everything is amazing about it! The payouts are awesome too! CD Baby all the way! 🚀🔥🌟
Hello, how long does it takes for our music to be live on all platforms? How’s your experience? I’m planning to release with them. Please reply😅
I only get a fraction of a penny for streams, can someone help understand why? It's almost impossible to reach cdbaby
Please say me CDbaby have Royalties split option..?
Bro I got a copyright claim from them on behalf of Nb records like I have never herd of them but I got claimed
Serious question, with distrokid & tunecore you have to pay the annual fee right….?….so what happens if you die and you are no longer paying the fee? Do they pull your catalog?
Cos one thing that def matters to me is having my music permanently online no matter if I’m here or not….
distrokid charges 30$ per song to keep your songs up forever. bs to me
If you don't pay your records will not play. There is a legacy upcharge you can pay on one of them though. Cd Baby one time payment covers for life.
I've been with cdbaby for years I don't think cdbaby is a bad company but what I will say is they take forever to pay you...and to monetize your music on RUclips....especially when it comes to paying you publishing royalties I didn't see my first check until this year in March n I've been with them for 2 going on 3 years
This was a good review…
Keeping it real, and showing people how much you’re getting screwed…
Really makes you think about being wise when choosing a distributor!
but his review is with the assumption that youre getting enough streams for your monthly fee's to pay for themselves...
He doesn’t mention that you pay distrokid $20 to upload your music only. They don’t give the extras that any other company gives unless you pay more. They’re no help with playlisting or post release. They don’t do sync licensing at all. If you pay for all of the “extras” on distrokid it’s almost $80 a year for a single when you could just pay $5 to cd baby and get the things distrokid calls “extra” also, you can’t pick a release date on the $20 distrokid plan. Distrokid is more expensive unless you’re getting the absolute basics or unless you generate hundreds of thousands of streams.
any update on what your using now? what about ditto?
I’m an independent composer artist. I do epic instrumental type music. I would like to get a music publisher but unsure what would be the right one. I almost went for cd baby what do you recommend for my genre?
CDbaby is more reliable, you can release your music as a Pro title if you want a publisher but you'll have to pay per release so keep that in mind. If you make a lot of music and don't want to pay 10$ per song then just go with something like Distrokid which gives you unlimited releases for like 20$
You’re better off doing the publishing yourself.
Is there any other one time fees music distribution platfrom like CD Baby?
Emubands. Expensive one time fee but you get 100% royalties.
Distributed have a 'Legacy' add on that makes your release permanent with no ongoing fees.
Its far better than suecore and distrotakeyourrent
DISTROTAKEYOURRENT LMAOOO
Hilarious!
if you die and cant pay your membership.... your musical legacy disappears.
except cdbaby, i think they keep it forever? can someone confirm that?
wow
Thank You ...very thorough .....makes since now!!!!
Nice info. Can you turn off the autofocus on your camera?
I don't know about having to do a subscription for my music. I like the one and done and I'm out. Cdbaby been my go to and when marketing really kicks in, it won't matter how much they take out in one avenue as long as I'm still making money off my music through other means.
I keep reading about cd baby paying out quickly whereas distrokid takes months! Is that true?
I use CD Baby and I think it's perfect for me, unless you are a huge star there's nothing wrong with them
Tunecore and Distrokid don't distribute Classical releases to Apple Music, unfortunately. That's why some musicians are still working with CDBABY.
I prefer cdbaby pls ...well all are cool but cdbaby is d best
So if I sign up for cd baby pro
Do I still have to sign up for BMI?
Hey Ladon...could you do a video on why CD Baby does not pay Tik Tok royalties for streams but only for every new video that uses your music. Coz, I think I have been played...I have over a million Tik Tok collective streams of my songs, yet CD Baby records $0 for all this, it's in the fine print as well. And is there any other distributor that pays for Tik Tok stream royalties? My brain is really struggling here, kindly help.
Which one monitors the royalties after the upload?
Tune core is just stupidly expensive. It’s in no way viable for beginners
Is this still righ as of October 2022💃🕺🏻😢good info 💅🏻trying to find out how to release music is a headspinner 🏃♀️thx JT
I got a email saying I got editorial discretion. What does that mean? I owned everything I uploaded. Why doesn't distro kid have a phone number to speak to a real person?
You overlooked legacy. If you'd like you songs on streaming services ongoingly, even if you die, CDBaby seems the choice. If you stop paying your annual fees your music disappears. Seem like a pretty huge perk to overlook?
06:35 This comparison doesn't make sense.
You should count with 12 songs album for 5 years.
I left distrokid because when you add extras, in the second year, they hit your account all the time, for a buck here, $5 there.
Also, avoid Ditto Music, which steals royalties. There are so many victims. Ditto Music is a vicious company that does not pay royalties.
i need you help for distribution my music
distrokid becomes much expensive when you add in the discovery content id and others which is a must thats like 6 dollars per song on top of your membership fee that you pay each year and those numbers stack up during my research i found that alaw takes 15 percent and landr also takes 15 percent and 30 percent of content id royalties if you choose the pay per release distrokid also takes 20 percent cut on top of the yearly feee i think cdbaby with the 9 percent cut is quite fair if you do make it big i mean you can jump ships but cd baby as of now makes much more sense also the legacy fee is a myth if your card stops working lol
distrokid fucking sucks lol
theyre withholding 30% of my royalties ($600) and i have no way to file a tax return via e-filing etc. for someone in college this is a lot and ive never made a more expensive music decision
The customer service of Cd baby is so bad.. I need to change my artist name in the platforms to release my new music and they made it a nightmare. The first time I contact the customer service they just responded me 2 weeks later with a generic email telling me that they can't change any released song. So they never read my email cause I ain't talked about any released.. I tried to contact them 3 more times and they just ignore me.. Conclusion: They can be the best company but If their customer service ain't good, the company ain't work for me..
They do respond to me!!!
the recording's focus is so annoying , i wish it wasn't like that
RUclips collecting is a yearly fee on distro per track
theres also a catch as cd baby lets you keep your song up indefinitely
Thanks very much for this info! I'm going to check out other platforms besides CD Baby! #CdBaby
Can you please do a video on pro tools
(avid play ) they do music distribution
Can we whitelist in cdbaby
I am using star music 25%
doesnt mention all the other yearly fees per song you have to pay to distrokid for the discovery package or if you want them to add your songs to future DSP's and oh lets not forget legacy. all that adds up and ends up costing you more than cd baby's cut they take.
Lol ppl are so blinded by the whole unlimited music trick. Wtf uploads dozens of songs every year? Plus last i heard once u decide to cancel your distrokid subscription theyll take ur shit off all DSP. And the legacy option is a scam. Theyll only honor that feature If you die not if u decide to just cancel the sub. This was years ago it maybe not be the case anymore. But im weary of that company
What...somebody gonna take my back end...oh heck’s no
what about song trust are they any good
I wish the gov only charged me 9% taxes like Cdbaby. Instead I got a raise and am making less because my taxes increased.
Now they created CdBaby Boost
hiphop artists cant monetize (via Distro Kid ) - thats the only genre they dont cover
True that, that's why I use CDbaby when I release original music and Distrokid when I buy a leased beat.
i see you delete my comment for telling the truth and i understand you are paid by distrokid, not nice what are you doing
I chose CD BABY AND I AM GOING TO REGISTER WITH SOUNDGROUND SONGTRUST FOR MY MECHANICAL RIGHTS AND MLC IS FREE TO TEGISTER
30% Instagram, Facebook, youtube is huge number. Have to research if this still is the case in 2024, heading to cd baby.
Actually if you think about it how these distribution companies are always changing everything that it's better to pay a per album or per song because if you ever are unable to pay every year for unlimited uploads they will just take down your music whereas CD baby your music will stay up permanently they won't take it down.
Thank you do much just was finna sign up for cd baby not anymore
Who you signed up with?
CdBaby getting roasted for 12:46 Minutes straight.
What happens if Distrokid goes bust.. ?
I thing the worst part is that CD baby they support is 0 from 1 to 10 is terrible so if you have an issue you are on your own they have a robot machine answering your question with its not helpful at all .
it would also be useful to see over an n number of years
sorry but i can not afford yearly or monthly payment on music I CREATED and who cares about how many sales you make and how much they take what matters is being heard and also 9% really!? oh so scary you do realize every single sale adds up they may take $9 but you'll be making way way more then that once you get a good following everything adds up no matter how much your album is and yes there is a good amount of people that by CDs and vinyl and i plan on releasing a digital and vinyl exclusive i know that may sound dumb to some people but it's my music and I'm going to release it the way i want to and CD Baby is as self-published and independent as you can get
I chose CD baby last week for two reasons the 9.9e per single and now per album they updated their prices what you can do next is register with songtrust they collect your mechanical rights for you worldwide one time fee of a 100 dollars what Americans should know though is that CD baby is an American corporation and so they ask you to sign a tax return with your IBan etc and on top of the 9 % they will withhold 30 % now they withhold 39 % of your royalties if you are in America but I am French living in Paris so they can’t withhold 30 % only 9 percent so yes and then songtrust the publishing company will take another 15 percent so 39 percent royalties for CD BABY AND 15 percent total withhold of your royalties 54 % it’s insane
In my case it is 9 % withhold by CD baby and 15 percent by publisher songtrust so total withhold from both companies is 24 percent but there interest is to place you everywhere so they can collect royalties and you can focus on your music
”30% of your youtube royalties” If I have understood right DistroKid doesn’t even collect these royalties and that is why they don’t take any %?
Cd baby has constant website issues. These sites won't provide timely help. The chat is moronic. The email case ticket is painfully slow. But.....none of the companies are user friendly