Mannnnn😂😂....out of all that this clip had to show....you picked the very part that is least important ... something having very less impact ...and you churned a legit analytical fact out of it... atleast i couldn't have thought of it...nice observation...😂😂
The kiss sent Harvey deeper into denial and he asked Paula to move in with him. Although we would have expected Harvey to finally wake up and see what was in front of his eyes
The kiss was on the spur of the moment as a result of the circumstances . If Donna had thought, she wouldn't have kissed Harvey. No one would have known better than her what Harvey's position is on infidelity, and she wouldn't have risked ruining their 12-year friendship.
Yep. Although we all know that they should've been together way sooner (and they eventually did), it was incredibly selfish of Donna to do that when she knew Harvey's stance on infidelity. She should've thought about it before she did it. Also, she was the one who didn't want to date Harvey all those years back after they slept together. Should've lied in the bed she made
@@Ty-io7bv Qué opiniones tan duras Se ve claramente que fue un impulso después de escuchar a Louis, a Mike le dijo claramente que no. No obstante, parece que no observáis que ellos fueron uno, durante mucho tiempo y no actuaron antes por miedo a perderse uno al otro.
"Spur of the moment" seems to be a pattern with Donna. Burning the planted document, kissing Harvey, going to her boyfriend about that deal Alex ended up figuring out, destroyed Zane's professional legacy and nearly destroyed the firm.
@kendalldesouza4595 unlike Harvey who knowingly hired a fraud and put everyone in danger and destroyed the company. Or Louis who, among other things, signed the agreement with Fortsman and took a $1 million bribe, or Jessica who signed a confidentiality agreement with Hardman....
Telling the truth to your partner after you've lied is a courageous and profoundly meaningful act. It takes strength to admit when you've made a mistake, especially when you fear the pain it might cause. However, choosing honesty, even after a lie, shows a deep respect for the relationship and a genuine desire to heal and rebuild trust. It acknowledges that your partner deserves authenticity and transparency, and it opens the door to real communication, growth, and a stronger bond. In coming clean, you’re not only being true to your partner but also to yourself. It’s an opportunity to learn from the past, show your commitment to growth, and create a foundation of trust that is more resilient and real. Honesty might be difficult, but it’s the first step in turning a mistake into a moment of growth, understanding, and renewed connection.
I’m hot and cold on Donna. Kinda always found her corny, and really didn’t like how manipulative she was here. For starters she lied about not feeling anything for Harvey, just to coax him into admitting he felt something after that kiss. And Harvey was no saint either, like a typical guy, he loves keeping Donna around cuz of how she makes him feel, but he wants to keep her a secret and on his terms, without any consideration of her feelings.
For real. So many people on here keep saying how it was a "spur of the moment" thing. But stuff like this happens through the whole series from her burning the document to in the final season nearly getting the firm destroyed an ruining Zane's legacy.
It honestly felt like they did this to replace Mike/rachel relationship on the show. I liked it better when they weren’t together and were just close friends and confidants
Yeah, I didn't like their whole relationship arc either. However I don't think it was just to replace Mike/Rachel. They had been playing/teasing with it for years and fans were crying for it since like season 3. I feel like a relationship was always in the plans at some point regardless of Patrick and Meghan leaving.
@@Jordy4610 they'd been playing/teasing with it for years because Donna specifically told Harvey she wouldn't have a thing with him as long as they work together. Harvey had been respecting that for years.
@@belloafolarin3080 It means "they" as in the show directors/writers. Not them two haha. Little comments and things throughout the show suggested they would always end up together. Also they literally already slept together before the show even started (1 day in between jobs when they didn't work together). It has been set-up this way from the very start.
I don’t understand people that have this view… especially when they say it was written to take over from Mike and Rachel. As you can see from season 1 that Donna and Harvey are more than friends. There’s more to it.
@@belloafolarin3080 Totalmente de acuerdo, a él le aterraba la idea, de que se fuera o se distanciaran, de hecho Harvey cuando Donna le pidió explicaciones a Harvey cuando en su casa, la dijo, sabes que te quiero Donna, él dijo lo tenían todo.
@@pheela Si eso es cierto que ocurriera, que no se sabe, aunque si es extraña la situación, qué tiene que ver una Serie que es a lo que se dedican los actores? Quizás haya otro problema, por el que Gabriel Macht no pueda actuar mucho. Ellos, cierto tienen, o tenían una gran amistad, pero ambos están felizmente casados y al decir "disfrutarlo", nosotros solo somos fans, valorando una relación y trama, en una película. Aparte que cuando terminaron la Serie, ellos tuvieron entrevistas y parecían seguir siendo grandes amigos, la historia es como se lo tomará la mujer de él, porque el marido de Sarah y ella misma, todo iba bien.
El beso vino motivado por ka co versación con Mike y definitivamente por Louis al decir "que si no se daba cuenta que perdía a la persona de su vida...". Al final Harvey agradece a Mike, el apoyo a Donna, sin esto igual hubiera sucedido otras cosas...
@@Wraith8082 A lot of people think so, but not really. The infidelity in the show is realistic as it happens but the (long-term) aftermath is still dealt with in a fairly healthy way
I mainly meant how the impact of it was minimalised, like here Donna saying “it was just a kiss we’ve done more” like the kiss isn’t still clearly cheating Or Sheila gooping Louis in the mud while engaged (kind of unwillingly) being taken for a joke or the therapist blaming Harvey for telling his dad about his mum instead of lying and keeping it a secret, it was all just framed really weirdly imo
Paula is a great person but I genuinely don't think she and Harvey could've worked. Even though they took a year's gap after their therapy sessions which made their relationship legally acceptable, it still had a significant power imbalance
@@Tom_Stevens617It doesn't matter how long it's been, it's unprofessional. She knows his vulnerabilities, fears, insecurities, mental health problems, all found out by the nature of the profession and in complete confidentiality. The former therapist can use all this for manipulation in the relationship, and that's exactly what Paula did. She used his denial and manipulated him using the information from the therapy.
@@Tom_Stevens617Yes, but I don't know how using this power to manipulate the relationship, the lack of ethics and professionalism, make Paula great person.
@@zizzi1227 Es que Paula, desde mi punto de vista, no actuó bien, sabiendo todo lo que sabía de él, incluso los sentimientos hacía Donna, en ese sentido no lo ayudó nada, ni le quitó el problema que llevaba, incluso lo desviaba hacia sus propios intereses personales, eso un buen terapeuta no lo hubiera hecho, Harvey seguía con el problema en sus relaciones emocionales, de hecho al final confesó que siempre había querido a Donna, pero tenía miedo.
Why paula 😢 broke up with harvey after knowing that he slept with donna even though they slept together years before knowing paula Can someone tell me?
Harvey broke up with Paula when Donna resigned because Paula didn’t want Donna to work for/with Harvey. (The classiest breakup ever!) Season 7 Episode 13 But Harvey and Donna don’t get together until Season 8 Episode 16
Heck no. To think Louis had work his way to get to the top and Donna just had to ask for it. She’s a brilliant secretary but she has no buisness being a COO
He kissed her back. I think the actors mentioned that they actually did a few takes to make sure that it’s visible that Harvey kissed her back, despite everything else that transpired afterwards.
@@aethei8560 Harvey sí lo sintió, otro lo hubiera rechazado y automáticamente se hubiera ido y Harvey no lo hizo, lo acepto y se quedó esperando si le diría algo Donna....
Because she’s a secretary who became a COO? Because she made mistakes that impacted the firm? Because she loved Harvey, but didn’t tell him for years? Because she kissed him and walked away? If those are your reasons ➡️ Mike was a drug dealer who became a lawyer. Harvey hired Mike and caused the entire firm to crumble in S5. Harvey also loved Donna for years and made HER a cheater when she cheated on Thomas with him in S8-S9. Harvey told Donna he loved her (S4) and walked out of her apartment. Do you see what I’m getting at? People who find her “pathetic” dislikes her because she made those mistakes, but also because she’s a woman. You cannot convince me that it’s not for misogynistic reasons.
@@aethei8560 As a married man, I totally agree. Literally all the men I have ever known were glaring misogynists. The things men say to each other about women when women are not around you wouldn't believe. And you probably know all about the double standards in judgment. I'd say Suits is somehow a magnet for these men. But I don't even know where the other kind of men are, except when they are being dishonest or silent around women for brownie points.
Imagine how confused that guy in the interview must've been
Yes. With Harvey talking
with double meaning for Donna.
Mannnnn😂😂....out of all that this clip had to show....you picked the very part that is least important ... something having very less impact ...and you churned a legit analytical fact out of it... atleast i couldn't have thought of it...nice observation...😂😂
The kiss sent Harvey deeper into denial and he asked Paula to move in with him.
Although we would have expected Harvey to finally wake up and see what was in front of his eyes
The kiss was on the spur of the moment as a result of
the circumstances .
If Donna had thought, she wouldn't have kissed Harvey. No one would have known better than her what Harvey's position is on infidelity, and she wouldn't have risked ruining their 12-year friendship.
Yep. Although we all know that they should've been together way sooner (and they eventually did), it was incredibly selfish of Donna to do that when she knew Harvey's stance on infidelity. She should've thought about it before she did it. Also, she was the one who didn't want to date Harvey all those years back after they slept together. Should've lied in the bed she made
@@Ty-io7bv
Qué opiniones tan duras
Se ve claramente que fue un impulso después de escuchar a Louis, a Mike le dijo claramente que no. No obstante, parece que no observáis que ellos fueron uno, durante mucho tiempo y no actuaron antes por miedo a perderse uno al otro.
She was wrong
"Spur of the moment" seems to be a pattern with Donna. Burning the planted document, kissing Harvey, going to her boyfriend about that deal Alex ended up figuring out, destroyed Zane's professional legacy and nearly destroyed the firm.
@kendalldesouza4595 unlike Harvey who knowingly hired a fraud and put everyone in danger and destroyed the company.
Or Louis who, among other things, signed the agreement with Fortsman and took a $1 million bribe, or Jessica who signed a confidentiality agreement with Hardman....
Telling the truth to your partner after you've lied is a courageous and profoundly meaningful act. It takes strength to admit when you've made a mistake, especially when you fear the pain it might cause. However, choosing honesty, even after a lie, shows a deep respect for the relationship and a genuine desire to heal and rebuild trust. It acknowledges that your partner deserves authenticity and transparency, and it opens the door to real communication, growth, and a stronger bond.
In coming clean, you’re not only being true to your partner but also to yourself. It’s an opportunity to learn from the past, show your commitment to growth, and create a foundation of trust that is more resilient and real. Honesty might be difficult, but it’s the first step in turning a mistake into a moment of growth, understanding, and renewed connection.
What a lecture. A great one at that. ❤
@@Cherrydearie How did Paula take it? I didn't see that part.
@@abrahamowos She asked Harvey to fire Donna. Well, Harvey ended up breaking up with her because he couldn't afford to lose Donna.
@@Cherrydearie What!!!
Thats too much to ask of him but that’s exactly what’s needed for their relationship. Mans too dependent on Donna.
Actually it shows a desire to be free,f the consequences.
Donna was wrong. But I am happy it happened. 😅
Harvey was (like so many people) willing to let his personal stuff turn into a problem for the business.
Donna was wrong but like Louis said it was a mistake. And not for nothing, Harvey was in bigger denial than she was 😅
Interesting that all of these scenes were shot after sunset. Definitely a conscious choice.
should have been symbolic of their relationship being dead forever
It actually makes sense because personal stuff are talked about after office hours
The office rent is cheaper at night, during the day the real lawyers need it
In the end Harvey and Donna get married anyway.
Hate you spoiler
No te puedo creer el drama gigante que hacen por un beso!
She had to know and so did he.
I’m hot and cold on Donna. Kinda always found her corny, and really didn’t like how manipulative she was here. For starters she lied about not feeling anything for Harvey, just to coax him into admitting he felt something after that kiss. And Harvey was no saint either, like a typical guy, he loves keeping Donna around cuz of how she makes him feel, but he wants to keep her a secret and on his terms, without any consideration of her feelings.
For real. So many people on here keep saying how it was a "spur of the moment" thing. But stuff like this happens through the whole series from her burning the document to in the final season nearly getting the firm destroyed an ruining Zane's legacy.
Waw for someone who is really trying to avoid his true feelings by hurting the woman that he loves
I would LOVE to BE Donna!
What season and episode is thisssss
If someone I have no feelings for tries to kiss me, I'd run.
5:14 😂😂😂 you slept with him again
It honestly felt like they did this to replace Mike/rachel relationship on the show.
I liked it better when they weren’t together and were just close friends and confidants
Yeah, I didn't like their whole relationship arc either.
However I don't think it was just to replace Mike/Rachel.
They had been playing/teasing with it for years and fans were crying for it since like season 3.
I feel like a relationship was always in the plans at some point regardless of Patrick and Meghan leaving.
@@Jordy4610
they'd been playing/teasing with it for years because Donna specifically told Harvey she wouldn't have a thing with him as long as they work together. Harvey had been respecting that for years.
@@belloafolarin3080
It means "they" as in the show directors/writers. Not them two haha. Little comments and things throughout the show suggested they would always end up together. Also they literally already slept together before the show even started (1 day in between jobs when they didn't work together). It has been set-up this way from the very start.
I don’t understand people that have this view… especially when they say it was written to take over from Mike and Rachel. As you can see from season 1 that Donna and Harvey are more than friends. There’s more to it.
@@belloafolarin3080
Totalmente de acuerdo, a él le aterraba la idea, de que se fuera o se distanciaran, de hecho Harvey cuando Donna le pidió explicaciones a Harvey cuando en su casa, la dijo, sabes que te quiero Donna, él dijo lo tenían todo.
I love Darvey/Gabriel and Sarah so much ❤❤❤
this horrible onscreen relationship that the actors hated ruined their 25 year friendship. enjoy
@@pheela
Si eso es cierto que ocurriera, que no se sabe, aunque si es extraña la situación, qué tiene que ver una Serie que es a lo que se dedican los actores?
Quizás haya otro problema, por el que Gabriel Macht no pueda actuar mucho. Ellos, cierto tienen, o tenían una gran amistad, pero ambos están felizmente casados y al decir "disfrutarlo", nosotros solo somos fans, valorando una relación y trama, en una película.
Aparte que cuando terminaron la Serie, ellos tuvieron entrevistas y parecían seguir siendo grandes amigos, la historia es como se lo tomará la mujer de él, porque el marido de Sarah y ella misma, todo iba bien.
@@mariaelenahidalgolopez8455 I have no obligation to "just enjoy" bad writing that sends awful messages, thanks.
Donna was fantastic for the longest time until the kiss,Harvey was supposed to end up with her.
El beso vino motivado por ka co versación con Mike y definitivamente por Louis al decir "que si no se daba cuenta que perdía a la persona de su vida...". Al final Harvey agradece a Mike, el apoyo a Donna, sin esto igual hubiera sucedido otras cosas...
They should've ended up as friends
4:45 this show took a really REALLY weird stance on infidelity
@@Wraith8082 A lot of people think so, but not really. The infidelity in the show is realistic as it happens but the (long-term) aftermath is still dealt with in a fairly healthy way
I mainly meant how the impact of it was minimalised, like here Donna saying “it was just a kiss we’ve done more” like the kiss isn’t still clearly cheating
Or Sheila gooping Louis in the mud while engaged (kind of unwillingly) being taken for a joke or the therapist blaming Harvey for telling his dad about his mum instead of lying and keeping it a secret, it was all just framed really weirdly imo
Not to mention how Harvey is blamed for breaking up his family when his mother was the one who cheated
Poor Kyle!
Okay… but on a side note, there are times where I really love Donna and Louis’s friendship 🥲
I kinda don’t like Donna …
she is still the best role for an assistant without a doubt. Love is complicated
I dislike Paula more tbh
I dislike Rachel more
Me too,I don't like her,they made her look like some super women
@@didyappiah3800which she is
I didn't see the kiss, but it's just something she did to him, and he didn't kiss back, it's a non event.
Yeah, try telling that to your girlfriend.
I like Paula for Harvey than Donna.
Paula is a great person but I genuinely don't think she and Harvey could've worked. Even though they took a year's gap after their therapy sessions which made their relationship legally acceptable, it still had a significant power imbalance
@@Tom_Stevens617It doesn't matter how long it's been, it's unprofessional. She knows his vulnerabilities, fears, insecurities, mental health problems, all found out by the nature of the profession and in complete confidentiality.
The former therapist can use all this for manipulation in the relationship, and that's exactly what Paula did.
She used his denial and manipulated him using the information from the therapy.
@@zizzi1227 I know, what do you think I meant by "power imbalance" lol
@@Tom_Stevens617Yes, but I don't know how using this power to manipulate the relationship, the lack of ethics and professionalism, make Paula great person.
@@zizzi1227
Es que Paula, desde mi punto de vista, no actuó bien, sabiendo todo lo que sabía de él, incluso los sentimientos hacía Donna, en ese sentido no lo ayudó nada, ni le quitó el problema que llevaba, incluso lo desviaba hacia sus propios intereses personales, eso un buen terapeuta no lo hubiera hecho, Harvey seguía con el problema en sus relaciones emocionales, de hecho al final confesó que siempre había querido a Donna, pero tenía miedo.
Gimme a break, she's like 35 going on 16..
Why paula 😢 broke up with harvey after knowing that he slept with donna even though they slept together years before knowing paula
Can someone tell me?
Harvey broke up with Paula when Donna resigned because Paula didn’t want Donna to work for/with Harvey. (The classiest breakup ever!) Season 7
Episode 13
But Harvey and Donna don’t get together until Season 8 Episode 16
I can’t stand Donna. I just can’t handle a non educated person. Who thinks she so fantastic but in reality she’s not smart at all.
What if it's just a T.V. show? Is it Ok? You're super weird.
You need to dig deeper.
What's going on?
Alright, dostoevsky, this is a fiction
She should be COO!
Heck no. To think Louis had work his way to get to the top and Donna just had to ask for it. She’s a brilliant secretary but she has no buisness being a COO
@@Well_be_right_backI agree!
no because you don't just get something because you ask for it look how hard it was for Harvey and Louis and katrina
First meagan markle smells of cheese
And you smell of manure.
And you smell of manure.
I think that was the worst interview ever
please change the title to "The Aftermath of Donna SA-ing Harvey"
He kissed her back. I think the actors mentioned that they actually did a few takes to make sure that it’s visible that Harvey kissed her back, despite everything else that transpired afterwards.
@@aethei8560 keep telling yourself things to make your horrible ship feel less gross
@@aethei8560
Harvey sí lo sintió, otro lo hubiera rechazado y automáticamente se hubiera ido y Harvey no lo hizo, lo acepto y se quedó esperando si le diría algo Donna....
Lol get a grip man.
Donna is the most pathetic character in the show. I hated her the whole time. She was a disaster.
Because she’s a secretary who became a COO? Because she made mistakes that impacted the firm? Because she loved Harvey, but didn’t tell him for years? Because she kissed him and walked away? If those are your reasons ➡️ Mike was a drug dealer who became a lawyer. Harvey hired Mike and caused the entire firm to crumble in S5. Harvey also loved Donna for years and made HER a cheater when she cheated on Thomas with him in S8-S9. Harvey told Donna he loved her (S4) and walked out of her apartment. Do you see what I’m getting at? People who find her “pathetic” dislikes her because she made those mistakes, but also because she’s a woman. You cannot convince me that it’s not for misogynistic reasons.
@@aethei8560
Totalmente de acuerdo, respuesta bien argumentada y perfecta 👍
@@aethei8560 totalmente de acuerdo
@@aethei8560
@@aethei8560 As a married man, I totally agree. Literally all the men I have ever known were glaring misogynists. The things men say to each other about women when women are not around you wouldn't believe. And you probably know all about the double standards in judgment. I'd say Suits is somehow a magnet for these men. But I don't even know where the other kind of men are, except when they are being dishonest or silent around women for brownie points.