Disintegrating in Mid-Air | Deadly Competition Between Concorde and Tupolev (With Real Video)

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  • Find out why the second production Tupolev Tu-144, a supersonic passenger airliner, disintegrated and crashed at the Paris Air Show in front of 250,000 people.
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Комментарии • 1,6 тыс.

  • @motivase
    @motivase 2 года назад +1186

    The bitter irony is that both supersonic airliners met their fate in the vicinity of Le Bourget. Tu-144 in Goussainville in 1973 and Concorde in Gonesse in 2000. Only 2 km apart from each other.

    • @stuartmiller7419
      @stuartmiller7419 2 года назад +86

      To be accurate, the 144 'met its fate' when it crashed again in Moscow in 1978. The final straw for Corcordski's protectors. Also, in reality, 9/11 was the final straw for Concorde, not the DC-10 induced crash of the Air France Concorde in 2000.

    • @mariemccann5895
      @mariemccann5895 2 года назад +17

      No such thing as a coincidence...

    • @grantchallinor5263
      @grantchallinor5263 2 года назад +49

      @@stuartmiller7419 To be even more accurate, if you look at the details (which Air France largely successfully kept out of the crash report) Air France itself and the actions of the flight crew on that fateful day were probably as much a factor in the Concorde crash as the metal strip left on the runway by the DC-10. John Hutchinson's examination of the accident is probably the most detailed, knowledgeable, impartial and trustworthy account available.

    • @07foxmulder
      @07foxmulder Год назад +9

      That’s not irony.

    • @froggy251
      @froggy251 Год назад +3

      Damn

  • @gary1961
    @gary1961 2 года назад +1339

    A big shout out to Tommy Florez for his video of the flights way before the days of i-phones or camcorders.

    • @rnsteve2265
      @rnsteve2265 2 года назад +21

      Hell yea

    • @davesaunders3334
      @davesaunders3334 2 года назад +32

      WTF is an "i-phone"?

    • @T0mmy_Fl0r3z
      @T0mmy_Fl0r3z 2 года назад +132

      Greetings!

    • @rnsteve2265
      @rnsteve2265 2 года назад +18

      @@T0mmy_Fl0r3z Is this "the" Tommy Florez?

    • @zoyalis1487
      @zoyalis1487 2 года назад +13

      @@T0mmy_Fl0r3z OMFG!!!! It's you or it's him lol? If so, incredibly amazing footage. If the name is coincidental, sorry for disturbing you.

  • @inkypinky643
    @inkypinky643 2 года назад +722

    I remember being told once, 'There are old pilots, bold pilots, but no old bold pilots.'

    • @CMDRFandragon
      @CMDRFandragon 2 года назад +6

      Col. Robin Olds? Even though he actually passed of old age in like 2008 or something.

    • @billirvin9057
      @billirvin9057 2 года назад +4

      @@CMDRFandragon Just my opinion but Gen Olds was one of the last real combat leaders my USAF had.

    • @jeffreymcneal1507
      @jeffreymcneal1507 2 года назад +51

      @@billirvin9057 Here's another one: "Superior pilots use their superior knowledge to avoid getting into situations that require their superior ability."

    • @poohbeartube
      @poohbeartube 2 года назад +7

      Robin Olds is an impressive exception which is why he's famous. While serving in the USMC I taught a motorcycle defense driving course. A well known adage is "You've either gone down or you're going down". Obviously it is meant to inspire alertness, sobriety, and respect for the vulnerability and conditions while riding.

    • @johncox2865
      @johncox2865 2 года назад +1

      That quote belongs to motocross racers

  • @dx1450
    @dx1450 2 года назад +714

    The Concorde's demo flight may have been "mediocre," but at least it landed in one piece.
    "Just wait until you see us fly, then you'll see something."
    Those words were darkly prophetic, just not in the way he intended.

    • @rayirth.upside-down
      @rayirth.upside-down 2 года назад +23

      They knew they were gonna die and did a dark humor

    • @maddocentertainment8856
      @maddocentertainment8856 2 года назад +5

      Maybe we should promote this to the ten greatest f++++ in the world.
      "What the f. I just said several minutes ago!"
      Or just to the greatest (fail) words before perishing!

    • @parkebyron5132
      @parkebyron5132 2 года назад +31

      These are public transportation jets, not military grade fighter jets. Not even specific built acrobatic aircraft. The "mediocre" comment is pure stupidity.

    • @adamdelarozza1985
      @adamdelarozza1985 2 года назад +9

      It was a counterfeit and preformed as such.

    • @itellyouforfree7238
      @itellyouforfree7238 Год назад +1

      i mean, what did you expect? they were russian boasting idiots

  • @eezyclsmooth9035
    @eezyclsmooth9035 2 года назад +373

    "Pushing The Envelope ", EVERY single aircraft ever built, from the Wright Brothers to the Space Shuttle
    Has stress limitations . Some pilots ignore them.

    • @michaelamick8295
      @michaelamick8295 2 года назад +6

      Many, seemingly, just forget details while under stress and perform otherwise proper actions out of order. Those who survive most usually learn from the mistakes of others.

    • @IAmNotARobotPinkySwear
      @IAmNotARobotPinkySwear 2 года назад +15

      Yea. I used to want to be a fighter pilot or a test pilot or an astronaut growing up, always wanting to be on the pushing edge. Then life got in the way.
      Then youtube comes out.
      Then I watch things like Adam Air 574 CVR.
      The realization of "ok these are man made things prone to stress and repetitive use" starts to sink in.
      Then i realize, I'm really really glad I didn't follow my childhood dreams. Should still get back into general aviation though, I miss flying.

    • @jt-eb4sp
      @jt-eb4sp 2 года назад +5

      They had to uphold the image of Mother Russia, which they did.

    • @thegolfdude
      @thegolfdude 2 года назад +1

      It's not really about ignoring them, it's about "holy shit we're going to crash."
      That's like worrying about the roach you had in your ashtray as your car flies off a cliff.

    • @DonKelleyMusic
      @DonKelleyMusic 2 года назад +5

      There was a bug in the software that caused the sudden dive, because they had never tested the plane without the 5 degree limitation in place. Poor management was the issue, not the flying.... probably.

  • @MARSRigel1
    @MARSRigel1 2 года назад +219

    Fun Fact: both the Tupolev and the Concord are displayed behind each other on the roof of the "Technik Museum" Sinsheim, Germany. As seen in 13:34, an actual photo from the said Tupolev, you are able to go inside said aircrafts.

    • @superdude3112
      @superdude3112 2 года назад +5

      That’s so cool

    • @DSGTravelTV
      @DSGTravelTV 2 года назад +23

      Fun fact: both went down in Paris 27 years apart...both crash sites are quite close

    • @wardogies
      @wardogies 2 года назад +4

      There is a concord on display at the intrepid air and space museum in New York City

    • @Likeusb1
      @Likeusb1 2 года назад +3

      Yep. Visited it, quite an amazing place tbh.

    • @neillp3827
      @neillp3827 2 года назад +1

      @@wardogies and at raf Duxford

  • @tarmacpounder785
    @tarmacpounder785 2 года назад +575

    Soviet/Russian pilots have been providing high drama and spectacle to the air show circuit for years with their over-the-top display routines. I personally witnessed an An-32 crew perform a touch and go with one engine feathered-downwind at that, and an An-72 crew roll their wings well past vertical pulling out of a low pass. The Su-27 display that followed, flown by no less than Viktor Pugachev, was spectacular but those two transport category aircraft routines were downright scary. The Soviets can blame the French Mirage all they want but this Tu-144 crash was another case of a hold-my-beer moment going terribly sideways.

    • @markwillies4330
      @markwillies4330 2 года назад +53

      That's wot vodka can do- give you dutch courage
      Or maybe the pilots children were at the controls

    • @slabriprock5329
      @slabriprock5329 2 года назад +27

      @@markwillies4330 I understood that reference.

    • @alexlindsey6446
      @alexlindsey6446 2 года назад +16

      ​@@slabriprock5329 yes...for sure on the reference. that boy had no business handling the controls. Tragic, both.

    • @FredLarracuente
      @FredLarracuente 2 года назад +12

      A penis measuring competition gone wrong for sure.

    • @choughed3072
      @choughed3072 2 года назад

      @@FredLarracuente most of them do sadly.

  • @nancykaufmann3993
    @nancykaufmann3993 2 года назад +589

    I don’t know a thing about flying a plane but got hooked on these videos at the start of the pandemic and now look forward to each new one. So realistic, educational and yet respectful. Thank you for all your excellent work, TFC!

    • @ForecastingBrid
      @ForecastingBrid 2 года назад +21

      @road of snooker finals looking for attention from the guy who creates these? Lmfao grow a pair

    • @omni8331
      @omni8331 2 года назад +12

      @road of snooker finals bruh dont have to cry like a baby let him do what he wants to do, at least he doesn't flat out not make videos, and plus he used to reply and heart comments and took suggestions of the community, people have personal lives and TFC could be busy, so grow up.

    • @helloworlddotjar5343
      @helloworlddotjar5343 2 года назад +5

      @road of snooker finals there's something called the internet, yknow you can look things up.. and there's a thing called a simulator, you should look that up too
      oh there's also a thing called shut the fuck up and mind your own business, definitely the best thing out there. try it yourself!

    • @kamyagupta4030
      @kamyagupta4030 2 года назад

      yes

    • @russdy1982
      @russdy1982 2 года назад +5

      @road of snooker finals you sound like the sort of person that, if you saw someone famous, would run up and get in their face for attention. Chill out the comments section is for us, the content creator is far too busy researching, recreating and producing these videos to engage in constant conversation. It doesn’t sound like you fully appreciate or understand the immense amount of work that goes into these videos.

  • @leslietaylor4458
    @leslietaylor4458 2 года назад +93

    Everyone saying "if they had not done that"... "if they had just followed protocol"
    You have to remember the Soviet mindset back in the 60s and 70s... "We must be the best or we die trying" It was all for the glory of Mother Russia

    • @IntrovertedOreo
      @IntrovertedOreo 2 года назад +7

      Insert USSR national anthem 😂

    • @amoslukyaa5792
      @amoslukyaa5792 2 года назад +5

      What was wrong with that? You're talking as if the west didn't harbour that kind of mentality of beating USSR at all cost - if you still think the Mirage jet fighter was chasing Russian TU-144 concordisk for simply taking photo of the canard, you better think twice - the rivalry between French/
      British built Concorde and Russian TU-144 were so great - west would have attempted anything under the SUN to sabotage Russian built TU-144 - mirage fighter jet crossing suddenly in front of TU-144 flight path was deliberate done to cause an accident.

    • @BaronLemon
      @BaronLemon 2 года назад +8

      This wasn't just during the cold war, it was pretty much always like this with Russians.

    • @paulm749
      @paulm749 2 года назад +14

      The problem isn't that those Soviets died trying, but that they maimed and killed innocent civilians on the ground when they crashed their plane. They were demonstrating all the maturity of teenage boys given the keys to a high-performance car, and the results were predictable. The story about the Mirage fighter somehow being to blame is a smokescreen - the Soviets own this tragedy.

    • @arcanondrum6543
      @arcanondrum6543 2 года назад

      You know what's funnier? Boeing could only Bill us for the 2707. It never left the ground.
      That's good though. Mach flight over land is banned for good reason (but hey, "screw you Whales" because some clown needs to get laid while on business in Europe then watch his kid suck at Little League in NY, you know; "family man", "really cares").

  • @b.chuchlucious5471
    @b.chuchlucious5471 2 года назад +242

    "Tupolev won't make the same mistake twice." - Capt Ramius

    • @drsevrin100
      @drsevrin100 2 года назад +32

      There is only room in Tupolev's heart for Tupolev.

    • @jonathankleinow2073
      @jonathankleinow2073 2 года назад +44

      @@drsevrin100 You arrogant ass! You've killed us!

    • @kurtiskaskowski5386
      @kurtiskaskowski5386 2 года назад +30

      One like only please.

    • @rext8949
      @rext8949 2 года назад +4

      Anybody who repeats a mistake is a fool who hasn't learned.

    • @henkyagusleo3761
      @henkyagusleo3761 2 года назад +15

      We're going to kill a friend, Yevgeni. We're going to kill Ramius.

  • @mercator79
    @mercator79 2 года назад +222

    well, Tupolev's demonstration was memorable... I will give them that.

    • @reaper_delta177
      @reaper_delta177 2 года назад +9

      albeit deadly

    • @mixedboi
      @mixedboi 2 года назад +3

      Nice pun over 6 perished souls

    • @DEP717
      @DEP717 2 года назад

      @@mixedboi Agreed, a terrible cost, along with those hurt and killed on the ground.

  • @julosx
    @julosx 2 года назад +145

    6 years after that crash I started going to junior high school. One of my classmates there told me that his father was a volunteer fireman and that he was called of this particular day of 1973 to assist the wounded. What he saw wasn't pretty but he never told much.

    • @IntrovertedOreo
      @IntrovertedOreo 2 года назад +23

      Probably seen some gnarly burnt up body parts 🤮 that's why I can never do first responder work.

    • @dougdoug9223
      @dougdoug9223 2 года назад +2

      Must have been gross. Yikes!

    • @RS-cd9cf
      @RS-cd9cf 2 года назад +6

      Your story contributes no details and is basically useless

    • @ianhudson2193
      @ianhudson2193 Год назад

      The cockpit and crew ended up in the basement of the building where it landed...

    • @theanteaterparadox344
      @theanteaterparadox344 Год назад +5

      @@RS-cd9cf Absolutely commendable, that you take the time and effort to evaluate posts. I hope your cynical urge for whatever it is you're looking for will subside. Narcissists are so 2016.....

  • @francknhieu2862
    @francknhieu2862 Год назад +44

    I was there. I was a child and my father and I were unfortunately able to experience this tragedy live.
    I even recovered a small piece of metal, it was everywhere because it disintegrated in flight.

    • @RockandRollWoman
      @RockandRollWoman Год назад +1

      So sorry you had to witness that.

    • @Thyproduct
      @Thyproduct 6 месяцев назад

      Make it a giveaway

    • @Harold003
      @Harold003 4 месяца назад

      Do you still have that piece?

  • @preparedsurvivalist2245
    @preparedsurvivalist2245 2 года назад +168

    Not sure if having airplanes fly against each other to push the limits of their performance strictly for bragging rights is prudent.

    • @HandFromCoffin
      @HandFromCoffin 2 года назад +19

      and it's not like it's 2 companies.. it's the East vs. West in the middle of the Cold War... They should have both agreed to fly a similar, fun yet tame pre-agreed upon flight route to avoid any issues like this.

    • @hhn2002
      @hhn2002 2 года назад +5

      not sure flying like birds through the sky against natures design is prudent.

    • @leslietaylor4458
      @leslietaylor4458 2 года назад +4

      You are forgetting how the Soviet mind works

    • @3sierra15
      @3sierra15 2 года назад +1

      Who wants, "He was prudent, " on his tombstone? Rather, be memorable.

    • @jimb12312
      @jimb12312 2 года назад +3

      @Andreas Glad Innocent families were killed on the ground. They didn't sign up to participate in this stupid reckless game.

  • @carolinehoward180
    @carolinehoward180 2 года назад +187

    I wish I’d travelled on Concorde before it went out of service. Where I lived in the UK we would get the sonic boom rattle the windows twice a day. Some people even lost roof tiles! Amazing aircraft 🖤

    • @proudgrandma138
      @proudgrandma138 2 года назад +3

      Me too.

    • @danmccauley80
      @danmccauley80 2 года назад +6

      Concord will be back in another form very soon

    • @SteveLombardi58
      @SteveLombardi58 2 года назад +5

      I flew on the Air France one, NY to CDG. Best flight I ever took.

    • @carolinehoward180
      @carolinehoward180 2 года назад +2

      @@SteveLombardi58 Lucky man!!! 👍

    • @jasonshuster4748
      @jasonshuster4748 2 года назад +10

      I lived in Rosedale Queens which is next to JFK airport I miss seeing her land and takeoff.

  • @Sideshowbob24
    @Sideshowbob24 2 года назад +387

    I've always been curious how this crash played out. This video is beyond the perfection I was looking for. Keep it up!

    • @Sebastian-xl7vd
      @Sebastian-xl7vd 2 года назад +3

      😃

    • @fertilebee
      @fertilebee 2 года назад +5

      I didn't even know this plane disentegrated in mid-air, horrifying... At least only 6 people perished (and 8 on the ground), because, if it crashed into a more populated area and had passengers, the casulties could've been *much worse* .

    • @seltaeb9691
      @seltaeb9691 2 года назад

      Unlike the planes.

    • @seltaeb9691
      @seltaeb9691 2 года назад +4

      @@fertilebee Concorde copy & usual Tuppy standards. I'd never travel in a Russian airline Boeing or not. Their maintenance is poor & they are due a crash. It's been very quiet everywhere after a bad 10yrs. French pilots are not that good. Arrogance to blame.

    • @3RTracing
      @3RTracing 2 года назад +2

      sadly the flight channel did not due their true to form video depiction of the mid air disintegration but instead inaccurately showed the Tu nosing into the ground. Very disappointing and not their usual manner of truly representing an aircraft failure, crash or collision.

  • @gaztastic
    @gaztastic 2 года назад +59

    "Just wait until you see us fly. Then you'll see something."
    - Tu-144 Captain Mikhail Kozlov

    • @gary1961
      @gary1961 2 года назад +15

      He wasn't wrong.

    • @gily3344
      @gily3344 2 года назад +7

      Boy, he sure showed us.

    • @2puffs770
      @2puffs770 2 года назад +5

      YUP. That was something to see.

    • @edwardspaccarelli5944
      @edwardspaccarelli5944 2 года назад +4

      Not what he had in mind.

    • @markhamstra1083
      @markhamstra1083 2 года назад +5

      Yes, quite an impressive flight demonstration - just not a good impression.

  • @pieseldatches
    @pieseldatches 2 года назад +137

    The Tupolev Captain's attitude reminded me of those racing villains in Disney movies who always brag about being faster but they fail miserably.

    • @wobblybobengland
      @wobblybobengland 2 года назад +7

      With a moustache like Greville Wynne's?

    • @ecclestonsangel
      @ecclestonsangel 2 года назад +13

      @@wobblybobengland Like Snidely Whiplash from the old Hanna Barbera cartoons. Remember him?

    • @MegaGeorge1948
      @MegaGeorge1948 2 года назад +5

      @@ecclestonsangel The nemesis of "Dudley Doright", RCMP?

    • @ecclestonsangel
      @ecclestonsangel 2 года назад +12

      @@MegaGeorge1948 yes! Yes! Hanna Barbera also used to have race cartoons, and he and his dog Muttley always lost because they'd go after Penelope Pitstop. OMG, I am SO old, lol!

    • @marpass8763
      @marpass8763 2 года назад +8

      @@ecclestonsangel
      I remember too ! We are not old, we just have good memory 👍😉

  • @Surv1ve_Thrive
    @Surv1ve_Thrive 2 года назад +107

    My respects to the people of Goussainville. I live near Shoreham, Sussex which saw its own (avoidable) air crash disaster.
    Also sadly a Concorde crashed at Paris CDG in 2000. Air France 4590.

    • @dinono10
      @dinono10 2 года назад +2

      Hi neighbour I'm in Brighton and I remember that crash on the Saturday quite well. Was working for bha football club and the ko was delayed due to the airshow disaster

    • @leob4403
      @leob4403 Год назад

      Do the assholes that run these airshows even ask the people living there if they want to have these high risk events close to their homes? The families of the ground fatalities should get huge payouts as far as Im concerned

  • @ARFFWorld
    @ARFFWorld 2 года назад +32

    Rough Day for the firefighters on this one. Great Video as always
    1) Aircraft crash has to be extinguished and searched for survivors.
    2) Multiple houses on fire that need to be extinguished and searched for victims.
    3) Medical treatment and transport for all those on the ground injured as well
    4) Weeks long on scene investigating what happened and what went wrong.

    • @zoyalis1487
      @zoyalis1487 2 года назад +7

      15 houses. Hard to imagine.

    • @ARFFWorld
      @ARFFWorld 2 года назад +3

      @@zoyalis1487 They must of been really close together, or one hell of a crash

  • @sgreen0000
    @sgreen0000 2 года назад +29

    RIP to all affected by the crash. 💔😢🙏🏻❤️

    • @Sissy-tp7yz
      @Sissy-tp7yz 2 года назад +3

      Amen. That's very respectful to say
      after such a horrific
      disaster. Thank You
      Sheryl G. Bless you
      for your comment.

    • @kermitthefraud700
      @kermitthefraud700 2 года назад

      They weren't all good people; that's the silver lining to any disaster.

  • @watershed44
    @watershed44 2 года назад +70

    *I particularly feel so much sympathy for the towns people of Goussainville in France, they had no idea what was coming, my condolences to the families of the souls in the town that lost their lives as well, as the souls on board the plane.*

    • @WeaselKing1000
      @WeaselKing1000 2 года назад +2

      If you're interested in this place and its relationship with being right under the airport flightpaths, I can recommend this. ruclips.net/video/DD_AK9_b8bA/видео.html&ab_channel=TheTimTraveller

    • @watershed44
      @watershed44 2 года назад +1

      @@WeaselKing1000 Thanks for the reply. I'll watch that video soon!

    • @krashd
      @krashd 2 года назад +3

      They lived directly next to an airport hosting an air show, I would suspect that anyone in the town who was not at work would have been sitting in their gardens watching a free air show with a glass of wine. Of all of the people in towns and cities that have had planes crash into and kill them the occupants of Goussainville were likely the least surprised in history to watch that aircraft coming towards them...

    • @leob4403
      @leob4403 Год назад +2

      @@krashd do they atleast get insurance payouts for their fallen family members? If I lived close to an airport I would certainly move out first chance I got, especially if they were hosting airshows

    • @svetlanaisayeva2624
      @svetlanaisayeva2624 Год назад +1

      @watershed44
      I would add the souls that survived but, probably, lost their limbs to the list as well.
      I mean there were people severely injured on the ground.

  • @scottscott232
    @scottscott232 Год назад +7

    I live very close to Heathrow, and remember as a teenager in 1981, observing the Concorde coming in to land at Heathrow, with a low pass over our buildings. The windows and doors used to shake; but what an amazing sight to behold as it passed over.

  • @2manybooks2littletime25
    @2manybooks2littletime25 2 года назад +217

    You tell a compelling story each time, and you didn't miss with this one!

    • @d.schoepflin2247
      @d.schoepflin2247 2 года назад +3

      I just wish the story was in words spoken! It would make this video even better!

    • @2manybooks2littletime25
      @2manybooks2littletime25 2 года назад +19

      @@d.schoepflin2247 I think that the silence is more respectful of the dead and badly injured. Just my opinion.

    • @Sebastian-xl7vd
      @Sebastian-xl7vd 2 года назад +1

      Hi

    • @respectdawildo_danjones508
      @respectdawildo_danjones508 2 года назад

      EEE Wawaw

    • @justanotherguy469
      @justanotherguy469 2 года назад +1

      He missed telling that the Concorde also crashed which caused the company to fold.

  • @peterkoln2837
    @peterkoln2837 2 года назад +68

    There are a TU 144 and a Concorde at the Sinsheim Technical Museum, Germany. Both well mounted to show their elegance. You can see both planes from the motorway. Good old memories, dear TFC! Thanks for another brilliant video.

    • @donnebes9421
      @donnebes9421 2 года назад

      I once saw a porn video were the female was well mounted.

    • @daffodildeb
      @daffodildeb 2 года назад +3

      Peter, that is a fantastic museum! We really enjoyed visiting, and my primary reason was to see the TU-144. Ah, but there was so much more. We spent hours there, and wished we had more time!

    • @intouchkhaoviset9155
      @intouchkhaoviset9155 Год назад +1

      Ich war da schon mal

    • @TheFrewah
      @TheFrewah 4 месяца назад

      I had no idea. How interesting!

  • @wmc5431
    @wmc5431 2 года назад +47

    I hope people will recall that the members of the flight crew were human beings and had families, friends and loved ones. This was hardly the first, and likely not the last plane to go down in an airshow, so, as the Aviation industry is so fond of saying, "We learn from our mistakes."
    Soviet or Western, the Concorde/TU-144 were both beautiful planes, and there's as much to be learned in how they did things differently, as there is in their similarities.

    • @jimb12312
      @jimb12312 2 года назад

      Reckless clowns who played stupid games and crashed into houses killing innocent families

    • @Benji-jj2bg
      @Benji-jj2bg 2 года назад

      @Jim Beans
      And still, they were better men than youll ever be.

    • @bbmtge
      @bbmtge Год назад

      A most stupid comment. A complete unwillingness to view a situation critically. Congrats on you emotional immaturity.

    • @bbmtge
      @bbmtge Год назад +1

      @@Benji-jj2bg Would that be the one that crashed the plane causing death and destruction?

    • @Benji-jj2bg
      @Benji-jj2bg Год назад

      @@bbmtge yup. That one indeed is a much better man than any of the trolls who sit on RUclips all day just to judge others.

  • @holdenafart5241
    @holdenafart5241 2 года назад +212

    These are gut wrenchingly sad, scary, and I'm terrified of flying yet have seen every video the last 3 years. Great work again

    • @kaylasingh5401
      @kaylasingh5401 2 года назад +16

      Worst part is watching these before your flight :(

    • @privatepilot4064
      @privatepilot4064 2 года назад +26

      And yet cars are the most dangerous mode of transportation. Flying is safer than any ground transportation. It’s a statistical fact. So go on buy that ticket and see the world!

    • @DrAntonio77
      @DrAntonio77 2 года назад

      )m

    • @rext8949
      @rext8949 2 года назад +5

      @@kaylasingh5401 In fact you should be scared as a commuter in an auto - the stats are overwhelmingly against them comparatively.

    • @firun2635
      @firun2635 2 года назад +10

      Seeing those vids reassures me. Everything you see here is a mistake / oversight that will not repeat (or is, at least, extremely unlikely to). The current high level of safety of air travel is built on these mishaps.

  • @borninjordan7448
    @borninjordan7448 2 года назад +105

    "Just wait until you see us fly. Then you'll see something". He was right.

    • @evs251
      @evs251 2 года назад +1

      LOL🤣💀💀💀

    • @danpinckley3318
      @danpinckley3318 2 года назад +2

      Again hold my beer

    • @kevinmalone3210
      @kevinmalone3210 2 года назад +4

      Yeah, and then some. Hubris has been known to end up with deadly consequences.

    • @MrChopsticktech
      @MrChopsticktech 2 года назад +4

      The video failed to mention that the French shortened the performance time of the Tu-144 in order to reduce its presence compared to the Concorde.

  • @cavaliernumide4023
    @cavaliernumide4023 2 года назад +10

    I'm from Goussainville and the memory of this tragedy is still very present in the minds

    • @danorthsidemang3834
      @danorthsidemang3834 2 года назад +3

      Simply admitting to the world that you are from someplace called Goussainville is a tragedy in itself

  • @WendyKS93
    @WendyKS93 2 года назад +12

    I knew about the Concorde but somehow never knew about the existence of Tupolev TU-144, so I am really glad to have seen this video and learn about this heartbreaking tragedy. Both planes were of stunning design and magnificently beautiful. It truly is very sad to see that beautiful plane crash. It doesn't matter what country it belonged to, it was quite an achievement for aviation in general. Yes, maybe there was cockiness and arrogance that day but let us not forget human lives were lost and many others injured. Thank you Flight Channel for bringing this story to us. A bit of history I didn't know about.

  • @MikeGervasi
    @MikeGervasi 2 года назад +72

    It's sad that the Concorde isn't around anymore. I can't imagine going from the US to London in a couple of hours.

    • @akseli9
      @akseli9 2 года назад +33

      2 hours from JFK to Heathrow by plane then 2 hours from Heathrow to London by car 😂

    • @zyglo9826
      @zyglo9826 2 года назад +4

      @Mike Gervasi I can’t imagine who would NEED to go from the US to London in 2 hours…except maybe the rich and famous for whom money is no problem and who love to flaunt their wealth. “Hey look at me, I’m a movie star and I can afford to spend several thousand dollars to get to London a few hours faster.” I love airplanes just as much as the next guy…but supersonic air travel proved itself to be impractical and unaffordable except for the one-percenters.

    • @TheWahyuwirawan
      @TheWahyuwirawan 2 года назад +1

      With a price of a car or even a house by today's money. We are still hoping the next gen supersonic flight with more reasonable fuel consumption so the fare would not be too high and still affordable by the majority not only from a jetset club of people

    • @bigglyguy8429
      @bigglyguy8429 2 года назад +4

      @@TheWahyuwirawan Have you not heard of the reset? No travel for you.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 2 года назад

      How about an hour and change?
      SR-71 enters the conversation.

  • @ilnaz95
    @ilnaz95 2 года назад +15

    One of the rare few 144's is right outside my window - a monument in the front yard of the Kazan Aviation Institute. I look at it everyday - its truly magnificent.
    Everlasting memory to those who perished in that horrible incident and to comrade Tupolev

    • @watershed44
      @watershed44 2 года назад

      @Alex Shand2.0
      Do you know of "Skyships" channel? He did a video from the Kazan Aviation Institute!

    • @ilnaz95
      @ilnaz95 2 года назад +1

      @@watershed44 never heard of it, but will check it out. Thanks!

  • @alanhigh8125
    @alanhigh8125 2 года назад +239

    You just can't fly an airliner--any airliner--like a fighter plane.
    The simpler wing design made the aircraft less stable at slow speed. The cannards were designed to compensate, but a technical glitch caused them to incorrectly deploy after the angle limiter was disengaged.
    If the Soviets hadn't disabled the 5 degree cannard limiter, and the pilot hadn't tried to fly the airliner like a MiG, the crash wouldn't have happened. 🤦

    • @leslietaylor4458
      @leslietaylor4458 2 года назад +35

      To the soviets, they must be bigger, tougher, bolder and stronger, and if they die, they do so with the honor Mother Russia

    • @zoyalis1487
      @zoyalis1487 2 года назад +5

      Had to have been for adrenaline lovers? I'd never survive that take off as a passenger. Very interesting story though, I'd never heard of it. Sad ending.

    • @ursodermatt8809
      @ursodermatt8809 2 года назад +10

      and is the habit of the russians, they will blame the west for the accident and has nothing to so with their design and pilot

    • @amoslukyaa5792
      @amoslukyaa5792 2 года назад +16

      @@ursodermatt8809
      Technically we now know what really happened,it wasn't a design flaw - Russian Pilots and Engineers were very eager to impress the spectators consequently they disabled a very critical mechanism controlling canard angle ending up exceeding allowable angle which resulted the plane to stall.

    • @TheEmeraldMenOfficial
      @TheEmeraldMenOfficial 2 года назад +7

      Tell that to the Soviets, who had a habit of turning their bombers into airliners (including the TU-95 itself) and generally acting like Kerbals (An-225, anybody?)

  • @darrenh2693
    @darrenh2693 2 года назад +6

    I've been hoping for a while you would cover this one! It's a fascinating story with conspiracies and one-upmanship. Great job!

  • @alexlindsey6446
    @alexlindsey6446 2 года назад +2

    Outstanding production work as always. Simply fantastic! EVERY WEEK we are treated to a new production from FLIGHT CHANNEL. I don't know how it's possible each video gets better and better but they do! THANK YOU SO MUCH FLIGHT CHANNEL. I look forward to Thursdays/Fridays mainly because of you. This video was CHILLING!!! Great job )

  • @theycallmetundraboy914
    @theycallmetundraboy914 2 года назад +4

    Fantastic editing again, my friend. Loved how you coordinated the words, simulation, and video. 👍

  • @_al1k_
    @_al1k_ 2 года назад +7

    I really love the opening scenes!! Keep the great work up bro.

  • @RJ6AV6
    @RJ6AV6 2 года назад +8

    what a kick ass episode, thank everyone involved and sucks what happened but they were definitely ahead of their time flying that beast, respect 👍

  • @MarkiusFox
    @MarkiusFox 2 года назад +29

    The TU-144 did however serve successfully as an air mail aircraft for some time, and one was leased for use by NASA to research super sonic properties in the twilight of it's service history.

    • @naulahka1
      @naulahka1 2 года назад +3

      When you say successfully, it made nine mail runs only.

    • @flybobbie1449
      @flybobbie1449 2 года назад +6

      @@naulahka1 He means survived. The thing was noisy, thirsty and i think generally disliked. I bet the wing design records were at Bristol,so didn't fall into spy hands. Russia had to second guess the wing design. Shows by adding the canard and couldn't super cruise.

    • @ynotnilknarf39
      @ynotnilknarf39 2 года назад +1

      @@flybobbie1449 exactly, if they had the designs it wouldn't be the pile of shit it actually was.

    • @thexchox1554
      @thexchox1554 2 года назад

      @@flybobbie1449 The BAC and Aérospatiale design team actually said the canards would have been great for the Concorde. Even today they said if they went back they would have put them on the Connie’s.

    • @flybobbie1449
      @flybobbie1449 2 года назад

      @@thexchox1554 But they didn't, did they. They fitted chin vortex generators though.

  • @ryandavis7593
    @ryandavis7593 2 года назад +52

    A cocky attitude in the cockpit only serves to kill the cock flying the bird.
    Read it as you will. But truly this is the case.
    Pilot error is the most common cause of crashes both being cocky in risky conditions, forcing a plane beyond its design, or just being complacent.
    Never be complacent and know your conditions as limitations.

  • @pieseldatches
    @pieseldatches 2 года назад +71

    Hey Flightchannel, can you please make a video on LOT 5055 and LOT 7? They'll both be interesting episodes.

    • @jpass7784
      @jpass7784 2 года назад +9

      Very Good Petition. I agree...

    • @q.2-___-3
      @q.2-___-3 2 года назад +4

      Very good idea

    • @julosx
      @julosx 2 года назад +7

      Good idea. I remember that there once was on RUclips a video of the actual aircraft a few minutes after it crashed. It was still smoking a lot. Appaeared some gruesome sights : I remember there was, in the grass, a woman's forearm, without the rest. In what was the fuselage, you could see a male (?) passenger, still strapped in his seat, entirely incinerated, only his teeth were shining under the sun after his whole flesh was charred to pitch black. Man, that was painful to watch. Of course, RUclips has removed this footage since. I guess it was shot by locals on VHS cassettes.

  • @markrenton1093
    @markrenton1093 2 года назад +25

    "There bold pilots and there are old pilots but there are no old bold pilots"Bob Collins , former voice of WGN radio , Chicago.

    • @apostleverde
      @apostleverde 2 года назад +2

      The late, great, "Uncle Bobby!" ...who, ironically, died in a plane crash (midair collision, the other pilot's fault.)

    • @ynotnilknarf39
      @ynotnilknarf39 2 года назад

      Cpt Eric Winkle Brown, arguably greatest UK pilot, died aged 97. Look him up, his life is the stuff of legend

    • @markrenton1093
      @markrenton1093 2 года назад

      @@apostleverde , YOU KNOW UNCLE BOB!He was a class act , I remember leaving for work the day he died on the radio, it was ironic.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 2 года назад

      Not entirely true - but "old bold" pilots are bloody RARE.

    • @markrenton1093
      @markrenton1093 2 года назад

      @@bricefleckenstein9666 , you get the point though.

  • @chloescat
    @chloescat 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for another amazing video and thank you Tommy Flórez for the superb footage!

  • @ronstowell8646
    @ronstowell8646 2 года назад +72

    If there was ever a "hold my beer" moment......Soviet Union is the champ.

    • @dipanwitamandal7289
      @dipanwitamandal7289 2 года назад +3

      Never compete with concorde.

    • @arcanondrum6543
      @arcanondrum6543 2 года назад +3

      @@dipanwitamandal7289 ....said the Boeing 2707.

    • @CH-pv2rz
      @CH-pv2rz 2 года назад +6

      @Arc Anon Drum quit whining like a B1TCH on every post. There never was a Boeing 2707. No taxpayer money was spent on it either. Both prototypes were canceled before completion . Only a mockup was ever built. Funding was withdrawn and the prototype work remained unfunded.

    • @lightsaberlordp373
      @lightsaberlordp373 2 года назад +4

      @@dipanwitamandal7289 Concordski was the first plane to reach Mach 2 before the concorde but it was extremely unreliable!!!!

    • @zyglo9826
      @zyglo9826 2 года назад +2

      @Ron Stowell a close contender was the crew of the A-320 at the Paris air show…”watch us show you what Airbus engineering can accomplish”… RIP the demo crew.

  • @ididyermom3273
    @ididyermom3273 2 года назад +50

    Air shows shouldn't be about impressing anymore as they are constantly disastrous.

    • @damedusa5107
      @damedusa5107 2 года назад +4

      Then what’s the point

    • @bBersZ
      @bBersZ 2 года назад +8

      @@leeleecassidy7175 I bet you and OP are a blast to hang out with. Just copious amounts of barrels jammed packed full of crazy fun. Youd have to go to the Dr. to get a good time enema and funoscopy to get rid of all that fun after a hanging out with a couple party animals like you two! A couple crazy fun time having people is what you all are I tells ya

    • @texleeger8973
      @texleeger8973 2 года назад +5

      @@bBersZ Rude.

    • @damedusa5107
      @damedusa5107 2 года назад +1

      @@leeleecassidy7175 then not many would watch. Very simple

    • @staz3014
      @staz3014 2 года назад +1

      @@texleeger8973 cry about it

  • @komi-origami
    @komi-origami Год назад +4

    As a french guy, i can tell you that the Concorde was a creation french government was extremely proud of

  • @southstands303
    @southstands303 2 года назад +9

    These videos well made. The music is very touching and the music is fitting.

  • @shawnbirt4161
    @shawnbirt4161 2 года назад

    Another wonderful presentation. Thank you very much for such detailed and quality work.

  • @toonraider7041
    @toonraider7041 2 года назад +18

    I'd love to see you do the Guangzhou Baiyun runway collisions. It's such a strange story, not a lot of information, but video footage of it exists! It's such a weird incident!

  • @jaycleoo
    @jaycleoo 2 года назад +39

    *"Then you'll see something."*
    The spectators definitely saw something

    • @tat2steven810
      @tat2steven810 2 года назад +6

      famous last words...

    • @walterzielinski6654
      @walterzielinski6654 2 года назад

      Far more to this misleading presentation, the second one l have seen in the past week. I will be entering my reply shortly.

  • @pellman12345
    @pellman12345 2 года назад

    I travel all across the country for work and I'm not sure why find myself watching your videos before every flight. Thank you lol.

  • @richardjimmink4647
    @richardjimmink4647 2 года назад +16

    My father was at the Paris air show that year and knew the crew of the TU-144 quite well. He was scheduled to be on the demo flight during the show.
    The day before the flight, they told him they were having some problems and had to cancel his being on that flight. He had a brochure of the TU-144 signed by the entire crew the day before they died.

    • @AnneEloiseOfCNY
      @AnneEloiseOfCNY Год назад +2

      That's sad, scarey, and ultimately a remarkable twist of fate for your father, you, and your family. Wow!

    • @TheFrewah
      @TheFrewah 4 месяца назад

      A valuable piece of history. Make sure it never gets lost.

  • @johndoyle4723
    @johndoyle4723 2 года назад +44

    Wow, another great video, thanks. Eventually the Concorde also crashed after taking off in France,very sad day, and although the Concorde flew again, its days were numbered.
    The frontal video of the Concorde in flight looks like a giant bird of prey.
    Sadly I never got to fly Concorde, but I did at least board one, it was tiny inside compared with modern day long haul wide body planes.

    • @IntrovertedOreo
      @IntrovertedOreo 2 года назад

      I take it they went out of business because passengers got spooked from taking flights on it from the crash or because of general business failings? I would assume the latter.

    • @johndoyle4723
      @johndoyle4723 2 года назад +5

      @@IntrovertedOreo There were many reasons why the fleet was taken out of service, but it was still popular with those who could afford it. I recall that Virgin wanted to take over the fleet from BA, but BA declined.
      The planes wer quite old, very expensive to operate, fuel and maintenance. They were also very noisy, which limited their routes, and they were very limited in the seats.
      For many years the US refused the Concorde permission to fly because of the noise.

    • @rossbrown6641
      @rossbrown6641 2 года назад

      Must you say the infuriating WOW!?

    • @johndoyle4723
      @johndoyle4723 2 года назад +1

      @@rossbrown6641 Must you use the infuriating exclamation mark, and translate my comment into capitals, implying I am shouting.
      Perhaps just comment on the video, not my comments.

    • @wardbauer3229
      @wardbauer3229 2 года назад

      hi by y hi hi

  • @GraveUypo
    @GraveUypo 2 года назад +14

    never go "hold my beer" in an aircraft. never ends well.

    • @FadeToBlack888
      @FadeToBlack888 2 года назад

      nuance - look up Alaska Airlines Q400!

    • @sally2395
      @sally2395 2 года назад

      @@FadeToBlack888 There's nothing wrong with the Alaska Airlines q400 they're great planes I fly in them all the time

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 2 года назад

      @@FadeToBlack888 Oh, that guy! Yeah, he was infamous.

    • @willevans1471
      @willevans1471 2 года назад +1

      Vodka

  • @planespottingiasiairport9833
    @planespottingiasiairport9833 2 года назад +1

    I think this is a new type of edit
    Very good video and quality aswell
    U have my sub for sure!

  • @rodrigopinchiari4027
    @rodrigopinchiari4027 2 года назад

    Greetings!
    You deserve an award for each video.
    Very well made as always!

  • @davevalens9918
    @davevalens9918 2 года назад +3

    The Concorde was 1 very beautiful bird. I always used to enjoy seeing it land whenever it came by my neighborhood when I was a teenager. Damn were they ever so loud.

  • @AnneEloiseOfCNY
    @AnneEloiseOfCNY Год назад +4

    Dear Video Creator,
    I just discovered your channel. I've watched about 10 videos. I know nothing technical about planes or flying. But I am picking up a few things because you explain well and use arrows to show us plane parts about which you are explaining. So I sure know where to look for flaps now!
    I want to thank you greatly for all the time and effort you put into making each video. You have a quality product. It is obviously a labor of love.
    Since right now it is 2 days after Christmas 2022, I wish you a very Merry Christmas Season and a Happy New Year! ✨🌹☃️📯🌟🧑‍🎄🎀🎄🎵🎁💝👼👼🎶🎊❤️👨‍✈️🧑‍✈️🌎✈️🛩️🛫🛬

  • @dulguunjargal1199
    @dulguunjargal1199 Год назад +2

    Shoutout to the camera man for going into creative mode to film this

  • @cesarmendivil8434
    @cesarmendivil8434 2 года назад +3

    Waiting for the video on the airplane with those skydivers, from a couple of days ago.
    It´s gonna be a good one. :)

  • @pieseldatches
    @pieseldatches 2 года назад +20

    Tu 144: "Hey can I copy your homework?"
    Concorde: "Sure. But change it a little bit just so that it wouldn't look like you copied it."
    The change:

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 2 года назад +7

      What's more, I bet the Concorde crew knew what was likely going to happen. They understood what a jet like this could reasonably withstand. An absolute tragedy out of the Soviets' pure recklessness and desire to outperform.

    • @oogie493
      @oogie493 2 года назад

      TU 144 was made before Concorde

    • @pieseldatches
      @pieseldatches 2 года назад +4

      @@oogie493 but the concept was stolen from Concorde. The soviets used cheaper materials to make this aircraft just so that they would come first in making the first supersonic passenger jet.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 2 года назад

      @@oogie493 They were both under design and construction at the same time.

  • @arthurdirindinjr1792
    @arthurdirindinjr1792 2 года назад +5

    Read repeatedly that the Concord never made money and in fact always operated at a loss but was kept in service courtesy of Fench/UK subsidies.

    • @flybobbie1449
      @flybobbie1449 2 года назад +2

      Towards end operated at profit, but the airlines were given the aircraft.

  • @marino2009
    @marino2009 2 года назад

    Thanks a lot for this video... I've always wanted to see this one.

  • @Sambal_TheCat
    @Sambal_TheCat 2 года назад +2

    This is on i have been waiting for so long

  • @Aditya-rr2hu
    @Aditya-rr2hu 2 года назад +4

    I've been watching you for 3+ years and you've never disappointed me once. Now that's consistency.

  • @mariekatherine5238
    @mariekatherine5238 2 года назад +4

    No one can accuse them of false advertising. The performance was truly unforgettable!

  • @mikejohnson5900
    @mikejohnson5900 2 года назад

    A fantastic job recreating these events!

  • @onlyhereonce7290
    @onlyhereonce7290 2 года назад

    Your vidoes just get better and better. And better. Keep it up. 👍🏻

  • @2puffs770
    @2puffs770 2 года назад +8

    Fancy explanation for "We fucked up" May the crew and all that died on the ground as a result of this fatal flight RIP

    • @cotton-Dave
      @cotton-Dave 2 года назад +2

      In the end that is what really matters, isn't it?

  • @RobertB56
    @RobertB56 2 года назад +6

    Well they got what they wished for it was definitely more spectacular than the the Concorde's demonstration flight.

  • @vjfeefeecat586
    @vjfeefeecat586 2 года назад

    I had heard about this but had not seen the live footage - thank you Tommy Flores and RIP to the victims. Great video of the tragedy thank you and what a beautiful plane Concord was.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 2 года назад

      Live footage of this incident is pretty widespread. Just look up "TU-144 Crash" should find several examples, even if a lot of it is the SAME footage.

  • @orscrub3161
    @orscrub3161 Год назад

    your videos are eerily amazing!

  • @rhodesshah4603
    @rhodesshah4603 2 года назад +16

    The Concorde’s flight was “mediocre” so the pilot should have performed inverted flights or perhaps ‘cobra’ style near vertical manoeuvre’s?

    • @iconicshrubbery
      @iconicshrubbery 2 года назад +6

      A controversial caption indeed. By whose criteria was it "mediocre"? Perhaps it was just 'normal' and 'within safety parameters'.

  • @Richaag
    @Richaag 11 месяцев назад +5

    Concorde’s flight might have been “mediocre” but those pilots lived to see another day. It’s mind numbing how many pilots throughout the history of aviation have pushed large aircraft beyond their performance parameters and crashed as a result. “Just wait until you see us fly. Then you’ll see something”. That’s a hold my beer moment and those never end well.

  • @loriematthews6418
    @loriematthews6418 2 года назад +1

    Again, awesome channel.👍❤

  • @denisebutler989
    @denisebutler989 2 года назад +1

    Love ur channel😆♥️

  • @pascalchauvet7625
    @pascalchauvet7625 2 года назад +3

    That was so sad. The loss of life, and the fact that a quarter million people were eyewitness to it

  • @SuburbaniteUrbanite
    @SuburbaniteUrbanite 2 года назад +14

    Being “mediocre” ends up saving your life.

  • @debraevans3398
    @debraevans3398 2 года назад +1

    These videos are fascinating, very compelling, very tragic as well

  • @peterhouwen6311
    @peterhouwen6311 2 года назад

    By their very nature you tell some sad stories but even so, you do it very well

  • @chewar7537
    @chewar7537 2 года назад +11

    Sad that these air shows can cause deaths and injuries to people that live close to the airports when things like this happen. RIP to those innocent people.

    • @ursodermatt8809
      @ursodermatt8809 2 года назад

      why? you want them to cause death in a village far distant?

    • @melodiefrances3898
      @melodiefrances3898 2 года назад +1

      @@ursodermatt8809 if you don't understand why it's sad ... oh why do I bother? Your comment reeks of posturing for the sake of posturing. Smh ...

    • @ursodermatt8809
      @ursodermatt8809 2 года назад

      @@melodiefrances3898
      yes, why do you bother?
      why is it?
      for the sake of posturing?

  • @KONAMAN100
    @KONAMAN100 2 года назад +4

    What a tragedy, and I can imagine what a horror for the housing area where probably they were sitting enjoying prime view of the event. Sickening.

  • @aminechouad7796
    @aminechouad7796 2 года назад +1

    Amazing video buddy

  • @bobwiley6221
    @bobwiley6221 Год назад +1

    A classic case of the pilot saying, "Hey, watch this!" Quickly followed by "Oh SHIT!!!"

  • @TheRatlord74
    @TheRatlord74 2 года назад +6

    Never knew that those little wings were retractable.

  • @patolt1628
    @patolt1628 2 года назад +46

    Sadly, the pilots broke their aircraft due to excessive mechanical constraints. Some remarks:
    First: unlike what it's said in the video the presentation of the Concorde was "fighter style" and not that bad according to specialists.
    Second: there was for sure a tremendous pressure on the Tupolev pilot to impress everybody.
    Third: I know the story of the Mirage chasing the Tu144: it seems that a Mirage was indeed in the area, according to radar recordings, but not that close to trigger a violent reaction from the Tupolev which would have caused the crash. The witnesses have never seen any Mirage: if it was a near-miss event, it would have been visible, even on the films showing the crash. At last "photographing the plane's canards" doesn't make any sense: this chase plane should have been very close which was not the case and why photographing something that was even visible at close range and during the presentation using a telephoto lens? Anyway R.I.P for all crew members and the fatalities on the ground
    My opinion.

    • @lightsaberlordp373
      @lightsaberlordp373 2 года назад +2

      The crash had shocked 250,000 people including Aleksei Tupolev, the man responsible for designing the supersonic aircraft!!!

    • @patolt1628
      @patolt1628 2 года назад +2

      @@lightsaberlordp373 Yes, for sure

    • @deanladue3151
      @deanladue3151 2 года назад +1

      Only thing I can think of was that something about the design or deployment of the canards that could only be seen when the TU-144 was airborne. Otherwise the French Mirage had no reason to be up there.

    • @patolt1628
      @patolt1628 2 года назад +1

      @@deanladue3151 You're right but nobody said that the Mirage were there "because of the Tupolev" ... and even though, to see something "interesting" about the canards he would have been obliged to fly in close formation and that's not what happened. That's the main point: I obviously don't know all the cold war dirty tricks but I really don't see what information could have been obtained from a fighter in the middle of an airshow, including with regards to the canards which were not a national secret.
      Note that there are some airbases not that far from Paris from which a Mirage could have just flown a mission without any relation with the Paris Air Show. There was also a Test Centre in Brétigny, not very far from Le Bourget where the operations were not frozen: the country doesn't stop every two years because of this event.
      Last but least: the Soviets were spying the Concorde, not the other way around. Regarding the canards they have not even been contemplated for the Concorde which didn't need them due to a better design of the wings. Indeed the aim of the canards was to compensate the bad behaviour of the Tupolev wings at low speeds since they were optimized for supersonic flight. This was not the case at all on the Concorde.
      Last assumption: a mistake from "a" Mirage unaware that he was on a collision course with the Tupolev ... Well: military operations were not stopped in France but even the stupidest man in the area would have been aware of the Paris Airshow and ... not a fighter pilot?
      Anyway I'm just very sceptical about the idea that, should a Mirage have flown in the area, it would have been so close to the Tupolev to be the cause of the accident, nothing more.
      By the way, ask yourself the question: who had the most interest in this "Mirage hypothesis"?

    • @deanladue3151
      @deanladue3151 2 года назад +1

      @@patolt1628 it's also a good bet that intelligence agencies from other countries (CIA, MI-6) were in attendance at the demonstration, and were also seeking information on the TU-144s canards. Another possible reason the Mirage was in the area. It's also interesting that both French and Soviet governments worked in conjunction to keep any additional information being made public.

  • @daleplucknett278
    @daleplucknett278 Год назад +1

    Vision of the Tu-144 flying reminds me of the old adage " just because you can doesn't mean you should", the consequences show that vividly.

  • @Ggrillsandwitch63
    @Ggrillsandwitch63 7 месяцев назад

    Well good work. And also I really wish they would bring back these types of super sonic jets. We have the tech to do it

  • @darrencourtney7510
    @darrencourtney7510 2 года назад +11

    Them Soviets had gotten a bit over-confident in their structural processes. The TU-144 sure had some cockpit window blockages. Something always looked off about this plane to me (must be those mustache things). I bet the Russian designer in the crowd knew the pilots were over-stressing the airframe. Damn shame.

  • @cliftonsargent1572
    @cliftonsargent1572 2 года назад +6

    Can’t imagine the people at home maybe watching there kids play or just holding hands with your girl maybe telling her how much you love her and in a flash you’re dead, what a crazy rock hurling threw space we live on

  • @bernardhelinski1141
    @bernardhelinski1141 2 года назад

    Thanks. Breathtaking.

  • @epalegriavlog9671
    @epalegriavlog9671 2 года назад

    Nice video thanks for sharing my friend

  • @rext8949
    @rext8949 2 года назад +13

    Another one bites the dust - hubris got him. It was the height of the cold War and the Soviets were in a bruising competition with the west especially in the defence and space fields. The Russians beat the Americans with the Sputnik but the Americans overtook them eventually to the moon. The Concordski was a compromised version of the Anglo-French aircraft. The noise level inside the plane was so high you had to write notes to communicate with your co-passengers. The aircraft was bigger and heavier because of the heavier components due to inferior Russian metallurgy.

    • @stuco81
      @stuco81 2 года назад +1

      Quite. The Russian 'design' had none of the finesse of the Anglo-French aircraft. Relying more on brute force and power to get it through the air quickly (as was often the case with Russian military aircraft of the period, MiG-25 for example). It was more hammer, compared to Concorde's knife.

  • @alexandradane3672
    @alexandradane3672 2 года назад +4

    The Flight Channel is the only responsible and educated channel for accident and crash reports . The rest of those which I have seen , are amateur by comparison and irresponsible. IMO . I am very grateful to TFC and hugely appreciate the detailed work, time and effort which clearly goes into the videos. A very big …thank you.

  • @MartianTom
    @MartianTom 2 года назад

    Great vid as usual.

  • @planespottingfargo1174
    @planespottingfargo1174 2 года назад

    I love the ATR in the background of the taxi shots of the concord

  • @Discosaturn
    @Discosaturn 2 года назад +7

    The Tupolev Tu-144 was like the Concorde's crazy sister - she's noisy and unstable.

    • @andyb5742
      @andyb5742 2 года назад +2

      You got that from Mustard, right?

  • @CycolacFan
    @CycolacFan 2 года назад +17

    The way that rear landing gear comes down on the 144 is interesting, that can’t have been the initial design so I wonder what problem was solved by designing it like that.

    • @Gordanovich02
      @Gordanovich02 2 года назад

      Prototype 144 had all four engines together in a single fairing with the landing gear outboard IIRC. Not sure why the landing gear couldn't have been moved further outboard when the engines were split. Outer wing not strong enough maybe? Or just not thick enough to house the gear?

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 2 года назад

      @@Gordanovich02 Probably not thick enough.

    • @killmoreturtles
      @killmoreturtles Год назад

      Yeah, someone forgot to steal the wheel designs, so they had to ad-lib

  • @tomdooley4226
    @tomdooley4226 7 месяцев назад

    Must have taken much time and effort to make such an authentic looking video.

  • @stevenclarke5606
    @stevenclarke5606 2 года назад

    This is the first time that I have watched one of your videos and the graphics are amazing it’s almost real