Dan Chooses A New Amp For His Wet-Dry Rig [JTM45 Vs Tweed Bassman Vs Sovtek MIG-50]

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  • Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
  • He wants headroom and transients - which amp will Dan choose to pair with his Matchless?
    Welcome to the show! This one came about because Dan is moving from a fully wet-dry-wet rig, back to a more ‘simple’ wet-dry situation. Albeit ‘TPS Wet-Dry’ we should say… but don’t get hung up on the definitions. It’s a two-amp rig where the fuzz, drive and distortion goes to both amps, and most of the ‘wet’ effects - reverb, delay, tremolo and so on - only go to one of the amps.
    Dan’s Matchless C-30 / ESD212 cab has been his #1 amp choice for years now, but what to pair with it? Three contenders are lining up today; they have a closely shared genesis and evolution, so the comparison should be jolly interesting!
    Argh! Bassman or Bass Breaker? I'm confused…
    The amp we're using today is a Fender Custom Shop Bass Breaker from 2002. It has nothing to do with the current Bassbreaker series. Ours is a Fender ’59 Bassman amp, exactly as the reissues of the period, albeit in a 2x12 cabinet instead of a 4x10 configuration. We refer to it as a Bassman because that's what it is! Except it's called a Bass Breaker… argh!
    Enjoy the show…
    Pedals & stuff used in today’s episode
    • Analogman Sun Face NKT Red Dot
    www.analogman.com/fuzzface.htm
    • Dean Markley Overlord - no longer made
    • Kingsley Page Tube Boost
    kingsleyamplifiers.com/product...
    • Jam Pedals Harmonious Monk MkII
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/3zaTX5Z
    Australia:bit.ly/414fg2h
    USA: bit.ly/3o8l782
    ThatPedalShowStore: bit.ly/421cyKA
    • Diamond Vibrato - not currently available (may be again soon!)
    • Meris LVX Modular Delay System
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/3zaTX5Z
    Australia: bit.ly/424UZcv
    USA: sweetwater.sjv.io/y2rjeN
    • Chase Bliss CXM 1978 Reverb
    www.chasebliss.com/cxm-1978
    • TheGigRig G3
    www.thegigrig.com/g3
    • Radial Headbone VT
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/3zaTX5Z
    USA: sweetwater.sjv.io/9genM4
    Interesting bits & go-to sections
    0:00 Intro playing
    2:33 Why are we doing this?
    4:55 The two main issues
    6:57 The Sovtek MIG-50 story
    8:52 The other two amps…
    9:35 The prediction challenge!
    10:28 Sovtek & Marshall - cabinet?
    11:40 Sovtek & Marshall comparison
    14:45 Normal channel in the Marshall?
    16:30 High treble channel, low input
    17:45 Marshall vs Sovtek conclusion
    18:10 And with some overdrive?
    19:00 Bassman arrives (Bass Breaker)
    21:30 Sovtek & Bassman comparison
    24:30 Sovtek into overdrive
    26:27 Bassman into overdrive
    29:36 Sovtek & Bassman with Page boost
    33:38 Wet effects in the Sovtek & Bassman
    35:45 The prediction result!
    37:25 Matchless & Bassman united
    38:48 What Dan wants from his Matchless
    40:16 Wet-dry, Matchless & Bassman
    41:22 And with overdrive…
    43:05 Dialling in some sounds
    46:17 Closing thoughts
    Guitars in this video
    • 1965 Fender Telecaster - Dan’s video here: • Pimp Your Vintage Guit...
    Amps in this video
    • Sovtek MIG-50
    No longer made, but check this: www.ehx.com/products/mig-50/
    • Marshall JTM45
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/3zaTX5Z
    USA: sweetwater.sjv.io/AWKnEa
    • Marshall 2061cx cab with Celestion G12H Anniversary speakers
    No longer made
    • Fender Custom Shop Bassbreaker with Celestion Vintage 30 speakers
    No longer made in this format, however…
    UK & Europe: bit.ly/3zaTX5Z
    USA: sweetwater.sjv.io/jr1Jav
    • Matchless C30 & 212 ESD with one Celestion G12M Greenback and one Celestion G12H Anniversary
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Комментарии • 594

  • @stustustu
    @stustustu Год назад +136

    My favourite moment of this video is Mick's dumbfounded "what exactly is real world about this?!" - I love how in awe you still are of the world you've built for yourselves, but also how aware you are of how far removed that is from the average person's experience. Also top vid once again chaps, thankyou!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  Год назад +20

      Thanks Stu - yep, that just about sums it up! Happy Friday geezer!

    • @Hesohi
      @Hesohi Год назад +10

      Agree 100% living vicariously watching TPS.😊

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 Год назад +3

      Yup. It's a world we'd all love to inhabit.

    • @kodykindhart5644
      @kodykindhart5644 Год назад +1

      If that’s not the real world I’m gonna have to just keep dreaming then

    • @patmurphy7266
      @patmurphy7266 11 месяцев назад

      that humility and appreciation for your hard work and success just makes it so special

  • @kentonschroer2347
    @kentonschroer2347 Год назад +76

    Just want to say thanks for the countless hours I’ve watched you guys for like the last 7 years. Some videos like a dozen times. Thanks for all the hard work!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  Год назад +5

      Thank you!

    • @shamsam4
      @shamsam4 Год назад

      Yeah man, me too.

    • @seanoleary
      @seanoleary Год назад

      Me too. Anything on tape delays, W/D or W/D/W, I watch them over and over

  • @tonymoore78
    @tonymoore78 Год назад +15

    Dan, I am in total agreement. This is THE BEST tone I’ve ever heard from you. The Bassman is the perfect pairing with your Matchless, a character-filled-clean to compliment the Matchless’ wonderful breakup.

  • @evanmiller2579
    @evanmiller2579 Год назад +2

    Glorious tones. Truly. Well done. Enjoyed the process of selecting. Thanks for all you do.

  • @iwiggs6870
    @iwiggs6870 Год назад +1

    I loved this episode. Really awesome to see you guys try to find the right bit of gear for a specific purpose and go through a bunch of options.

  • @malcolmkendall1547
    @malcolmkendall1547 Год назад +4

    Extraordinary episode. Love when you experiment bravely and we all get to learn along with you and hear something great!

  • @chrismundayguitar
    @chrismundayguitar Год назад +3

    Now we need a show with both our your rigs in the room!
    Great show thanks guys

  • @MrApprobatur
    @MrApprobatur Год назад +6

    The face you make Dan when the the matchless turns on… so happy for you - congrats on the rig! Sounds AMAZING

  • @gedification
    @gedification Год назад +2

    That’s a lot of happy faces in that show! Probably about the best sounding guitar playing, ever! Glorious. Thanks guys.

  • @BIGmanDAN72
    @BIGmanDAN72 Год назад +5

    This could honestly turn into the wet/dry channel, and I wouldn't even be mad.
    Thank you guys for everything you do

  • @ikbogle
    @ikbogle Год назад +1

    Thanks guys great show today, congrats on that amazing tone Dan. Inspired me to setup wet/dry this evening hadn’t tried it in a while and it’s just epic! Happy weekend

  • @darrenc8776
    @darrenc8776 Год назад +5

    Absolutely love TPS but its another level when you guys do the Amp comparisons videos.

  • @SomeKindOfMadman
    @SomeKindOfMadman Год назад +1

    I always learn something from watching your uploads, thank you both immensely for the knowledge shared.

  • @denmar355
    @denmar355 Год назад +2

    What a good pairing! Presence, transients, bite, but nothing harsh in the ears. Great W/D setup!
    Happy days!

  • @soulassasin10
    @soulassasin10 Год назад +2

    Enchanting tone towards the end lads 🤩🤩🤘🔥🔥🎸🎸 thank you for taking us on this tone exploration journey 🤘

  • @Heath_Herring
    @Heath_Herring Год назад +6

    What an incredible episode. In my opinion, this is some of the most interesting and most musical playing I've heard from Dan, and by far my favorite tone he's had since I can remember. Possibly the best yet. My favorite TPS moment for a long time has been Mick's playing in the "fall in love with your guitar volume control" segment of a fuzz episode a few years back. His vintage strat into a Hendrix Fuzz Face. Killer sounds. Now this episode is right up there with it as one of my favorite TPS moments.

  • @cyrusfontaine2598
    @cyrusfontaine2598 Год назад +1

    I love when y'all start playing long passages of music. Truly fabulous!

  • @scottcurry4116
    @scottcurry4116 Год назад +23

    Great show with my favorite circuit amps! These amps are all based on the original 5F6-A Tweed Basssman circuit. I’ve built two amps like these with 6V6 power tubes for lower volume. If you use a 12AY7 in position V1, its a Bassman and has more headroom. With a nice 12AX7, it breaks up earlier. I use the latter as my dry crunchy amp and the first as my wet amp. The combination is glorious!

    • @shawnmazzeimusic9549
      @shawnmazzeimusic9549 Год назад +1

      Always wanted to try it with 6v6s! I may just have to now. This circuit also sounds killer cathode biased.

    • @erickaymusic
      @erickaymusic Год назад +1

      @@shawnmazzeimusic9549 Take a look at the 5G9 Tweed Tremolux circuit (not the earlier 5E9-A which is more like a Tweed Deluxe)! It's basically a 6L6 18-20 watt Bassman with tremolo! Headroom for days and half the wattage of a 5F6-A! Additionally, a 5F11 Vibrolux or 5F10 Harvard (5F11 minus trem) with a high efficiency speaker will get you there too. They are 10-12 watts and have great clean headroom up to about 4 or 5 then glorious tweed break up after that and very dynamic.

    • @GCKelloch
      @GCKelloch Год назад

      Doesn't most distortion come from the PI tube? Wouldn't a 12AT7 there make more difference? How is a lower gain tube in V1 different than turning the channel volume down if that tube stage doesn't distort either way?

    • @pattyd8396
      @pattyd8396 Год назад

      Leo designed the Tweed Bassman (5F6-A) with a 12AY7 in V1. More headroom ! ! ! Tweed Deluxe (5E3)? Designed with a 12AY7 in V1... More Headroom.

    • @punottedbumhucker3974
      @punottedbumhucker3974 Год назад +1

      As far as i know, these Bassman-Bassbreakers are designed around the 5F6-A circuit, but with a 12AX7 in V1. The JTM45 Preamp should be very similar to that. Still a pretty big difference in the video though…

  • @kasakka
    @kasakka Год назад +13

    I'd love to see you do a show on 10" speakers. Everyone knows the Super Reverb and Princeton, but honestly I've never been happier than using a 4x10 with 10" Greenbacks. No issues with low end control, lighter and more compact than a 4x12. Underrated!

    • @chrisact9601
      @chrisact9601 Год назад +2

      And the transient response will be faster than 12" speakers too. I love my Lorantz loaded 4 x 10" cab. It's the tone I'd been searching for, for decades.

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 Год назад

      I love my 2x10" Laney VC30, stock Jensens, paired with another combo loaded with 1x12" (Blues Junior IV - loaded with a Neo Lil Texas, stock AC15C1- Greenback, Laney Cub12R - Vintage 30, any of those 3 as my dry amp) it just works. Something about the midrange of the 10" Jensens goes brilliantly with my favorite 1x12 combos.

    • @daughtersofdivorce6803
      @daughtersofdivorce6803 3 месяца назад

      10" speakers will always hold a place in my heart. They definitely have a focused, transient forward magic about them.
      To this day, a 6V6 Fender 5F4 with 10" Alnico speakers is probably the most beautiful sounding amp I have ever heard.

  • @ToddTheJoker
    @ToddTheJoker Год назад +4

    Great sound guys! Clarity, is the word that comes to mind with the Matchless and BluesBreaker which means tons of headroom! so awesome!

  • @BearPlayingBass
    @BearPlayingBass Год назад +3

    Glad you’d got the Radial to work! This is a great “learning in real time” video.

  • @lincolndaugherty
    @lincolndaugherty Год назад +1

    Awesome show! Thank you for the content, gentlemen!

  • @tommyraper3895
    @tommyraper3895 Год назад

    This a great video Fellas! I really liked the JTM 45 tone by itself standalone, but for what you were trying to accomplish with your overall rig, you definitely got it right! This was a great lesson on looking past your preconceived bias to what really achieves the preferred end result!

  • @erickaymusic
    @erickaymusic Год назад +14

    Awesome show today guys! There's a Tweed for every situation! Haha 🤘🤘
    Also, I'll take all the wet/dry content you guys wanna put out! Lol

  • @gigsandguitars6921
    @gigsandguitars6921 Год назад +4

    Love this kind of format video! 🎉

  • @Cheguebuddha
    @Cheguebuddha 4 месяца назад +1

    Ah so cool to go back and see the old shows! :D

  • @matthewbowman3861
    @matthewbowman3861 Год назад +2

    This made me think of the episode (vlog?) about setting Ainsley lister up with some delay. I think Mick has a gift for helping people work through options and figure out what they need. Great job, Mick, and congrats on the amazing sounds, Dan!

  • @Mtn603
    @Mtn603 Год назад +1

    That smile at 38:20 said it all. Absolutely brilliant sound. I plan to listen to this again tomorrow, as Dan’s inspired jamming and tone with this new setup is as good as I’ve heard on TPS, or frankly, anywhere. Cheers fellas.

  • @taviswardlaw
    @taviswardlaw Год назад +1

    Sounding fantastic, and I know I’ve said it on a video before but the diamond vibrato into the dry side of a wet/dry rig is such a great thing.

  • @henninghesse9910
    @henninghesse9910 Год назад +1

    Wow, what a great sound, actualy from all amps. Great show.

  • @stevenhorton7457
    @stevenhorton7457 Год назад +1

    Enjoyed that guys thanks for the sounds 😊

  • @bradenrodriguez5183
    @bradenrodriguez5183 Год назад +1

    Love this. Videos like these keep me dreaming about leaving my apartment one day and then buying and cranking a nice tube amp. Always so enjoyable joining you guys on the journey. Thanks for another great video!

    • @johnnymossville
      @johnnymossville Год назад +1

      I live out in the middle of nowhere for this kind of thing. :)

    • @bradenrodriguez5183
      @bradenrodriguez5183 Год назад

      @@johnnymossville that's my dream John! Turn it up loud and not worry. :)

  • @MrBaker88
    @MrBaker88 Год назад +1

    Ha, that grin on Dans face, when the first notes from the Matchless entered the room! Some epic noise there man!

  • @timcorbridge6772
    @timcorbridge6772 Год назад +1

    Awesome episode lads. Man you guys have the best job in the world!

  • @SquareWaveSymphonies
    @SquareWaveSymphonies Год назад

    Blimey O'Riley! This was a very interesting show. My personal favourite is the Sovtek, but all the amps sounded spectacular. Enjoy your new rig, Dan! ❤

  • @danielr8932
    @danielr8932 Год назад +1

    A entirely lovely episode. Informative and fun, fun, fun. These two leg ends know and appreciate each other so well. It’s a joy to behold. Just checked, in the states, Fender ‘59 Bassman LTD 4x10 45 watt Combo is $1999.99 at Sweetwater.

  • @petergoddard1960
    @petergoddard1960 Год назад +1

    Good Lord, that Fender! Delicious. That moment at the end where you kicked in the boost. What a biblical sound. It was fascinating watching you get there.

  • @Megamando93
    @Megamando93 Год назад +4

    Life should be played through a JTM45. One of the best sounding amps ever.
    My old guitar instructor/tech always used a JTM45 he modded a bit to have a tiny bit more headroom, Red tolex just like Dan talked about at the start. Such a lovely sound, with so much warmth, perfect presence and levels of drive. Always wish I could have bought it off him but he loved it even more!!!
    Great vid as always guys.

  • @TheDrunkenScoundrel
    @TheDrunkenScoundrel Год назад +1

    I've done many horrible and abusive things in gigs to a Bassman and just assumed it would be the default winner.
    until I heard that Sovtek.
    Very impressed that you did so much work that you changed my mind twice.

  • @GazP23
    @GazP23 Год назад +2

    What a show!! No bad sounds there, but that Bassman (Bassbreaker) definitely did the job required. Sounds killer!

  • @HeikkiRHackman
    @HeikkiRHackman Год назад +4

    What an absolute delight to listen to this video. Inspiring and uplifting sounds. Congratulations Dan for this finding. It is so nice to watchyou guys work together.

  • @deadinside0586
    @deadinside0586 Год назад +1

    What a great video, guys! Thank u so much for this.

  • @50Something
    @50Something Год назад

    A lot of magic goes down in this little studio! It would be interesting to get a tour of the whole place one day. It looks like such s nice setup!

  • @BrizzleRocker
    @BrizzleRocker Год назад +2

    I'm really not surprised this combination works well. I have a Vintage 30 and a Creamback in my 2x12 and they blend perfectly.

  • @WhitAnderson70
    @WhitAnderson70 Год назад +2

    Good morning all! Coffee is ready and so am I. I have been Sovtek curious but know very little about them. Looking forward to being educated!

  • @jep3305
    @jep3305 Год назад +1

    Beautiful sounds, Gentlemen, congratulations!
    We others just got our work cut out for us…

  • @periloustemple8290
    @periloustemple8290 Год назад +1

    Happy to hear that Sunface like that btw! I don't own one, but I have gotten to play a lot with one. Magic.

  • @IamMusicNerd
    @IamMusicNerd Год назад +20

    A Magnatone might be a great choice. It has an insane amount of headroom, incredibly clear and articulate, takes pedals perfectly, and has almost a 3D enveloping sound.

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  Год назад +5

      I know he’d love that!

    • @Paul-D
      @Paul-D Год назад

      Great shout there

    • @shawnmazzeimusic9549
      @shawnmazzeimusic9549 Год назад +1

      100% let’s a get a stereo twilighter in there

    • @Kuztomshop
      @Kuztomshop Год назад

      I have the M80 2x12 combo and it's amazing and LOUD. I love it. The FX loop is a bit different somehow. Tube driven. Not as clean as one may expect.

    • @ksharpe10
      @ksharpe10 Год назад

      Love the stereo Twilighter sound with and without the trem/vib. turned on. It just has that certain something, metallicy sound.

  • @Hangoverrock
    @Hangoverrock Год назад +2

    Great video as always gents! Running a JTM45 with v30s in the Low gain normal channel is definitely still worth trying. Treble all the way up and presence to taste should give you similar headroom levels to the bassman but with a warmer texture

  • @roryyerama5496
    @roryyerama5496 Год назад +3

    Love when you do amp-related videos 👍 (The amplifier is my favorite instrument!) If you ever come across a vintage Traynor YBA-1 (Bassmaster) from the late 60's / early 70's they are still a great buy for a vintage amp with outstanding transformers and a circuit in the ballpark of the Bassman and JTM45

  • @stephengrant5332
    @stephengrant5332 Год назад +1

    Dan - your intro.. well.. it was like when Andy Timmons was on TPS… I felt that way again listening to this.. Thanks!

  • @periloustemple8290
    @periloustemple8290 Год назад +1

    Oh, man. This was something else! I thought it'd be the Sovtek for sure! But, wow: that "Bassman" is just unbelievable - on it's own AND with that amazing dream amp of Dan's! What I think about is that in my own journey is how any 1 of these would have sounded perfect and I'd have left and gigged happily. There is no right or wrong - and certainly no judgment or critique. It is amazing to get here this kind of comparison. . . then turn around and hear my own rig and still be happy and even more inspired from your experience informing mind. I end up loving my stuff more somehow after hearing you both love stuff. I hope that makes sense. Great show and just as inspiring as ever!

    • @jagtone
      @jagtone Год назад

      One way to look at that amp: it's really a Bluesbreaker with better iron.

  • @peteglase
    @peteglase Год назад +1

    That tone! the combo of both amps driven....Best tone ever!!

  • @user-mr1ku5iz8l
    @user-mr1ku5iz8l 7 месяцев назад

    The way those notes bloom when Dan strikes a chord playing through that Sovtek just does it for me. What a great amp. I need to get one of these in my life.

  • @ryancrawley220
    @ryancrawley220 Год назад

    Comparison is fun. I think the reality is they are all great amps and this will inspire people to try out amps at volume. Great show.

  • @BrenQ99
    @BrenQ99 Год назад +2

    I’m just happy to see Dan that happy.

  • @seanpatrickwatkins640
    @seanpatrickwatkins640 Год назад +1

    Who else thought Dan's intro was pretty epic? It felt like a new mood and a new pace for Dan. I really enjoyed that.

  • @sroelit
    @sroelit Год назад +2

    There’s something very Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance going on here: the search for “Quality” and that elusive yet necessarily real sound that exists in our heads.

  • @russellkane9439
    @russellkane9439 Год назад

    Lot of love from Italy guys... thank you ❤

  • @RobertNolan
    @RobertNolan Год назад +1

    This is so fun!
    I kinda did something similar with two Boss Katana 100 amps and an HX Stomp XL yesterday. Learned how to send a Plexi sim to one and a Deluxe sim to the other. Started to change amps and cabinets from there and shocked at the mix of sounds, some were really incredibly useable, notably the Matchless and a Deluxe vibrato channel - very jangly.

  • @leebeech4590
    @leebeech4590 Год назад

    What a glorious noise. Great playing aswell.

  • @kernowcalli3312
    @kernowcalli3312 7 месяцев назад

    Love my c/s bass breaker….glad to see it getting some love here too!

  • @samdeff
    @samdeff Год назад +1

    Sublime playing in the intro, Dan!

  • @mrfillbrook82
    @mrfillbrook82 Год назад +2

    Excellent timing.
    Busy day and finally home. Nice glass of South Australian red from Langhorne Creek and TP Freaking S

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  Год назад +1

      Cheers! I have a NZ Pinot Noir waiting for me. Mick here. Looking forward to that!

    • @mrfillbrook82
      @mrfillbrook82 Год назад

      @@ThatPedalShow
      Enjoy mick. Always a weekly highlight.
      🍻 cheers john

    • @mrfillbrook82
      @mrfillbrook82 Год назад

      One amp i also rate is and have owned many over the years is a Selmer Treble and bass 100s. Just a loud loud amp that sounds blooming fantastic 👌

  • @Wellcee426
    @Wellcee426 Год назад +1

    I love the amp videos the most, thank you❤

  • @zeroamplification
    @zeroamplification Год назад +4

    The presence control on the real old big tweeds is what makes that compression feel come in. High presence = more compression, low presence = less. It's counterintuitive but it's just a thing. It feels like a totally different amplifier with all other controls left the same from a feel perspective. Thank you Leo!

    • @GCKelloch
      @GCKelloch Год назад

      Wouldn't that depend on how hard the amp section is driven? GNFB "compresses" the high harmonics so Presence down essential compresses the high end along with however much the low end is compressed.

    • @zeroamplification
      @zeroamplification Год назад +2

      ​@@GCKelloch High presence = less NFB but as you note NFB is global not just confined to the power section. It's counterintuitive because you'd expect more 'presence' from less NFB = less compression but in real life it FEELS like the notes get bouncy as you remove the anti-phased frequency cancellation of the NFB. Just one of those things. If I had to place a bet on why this happens with old big tweeds but not with a similar circuit like an old JTM45 (even with an NFB resistor and OT tap selection to make the levels of NFB commensurate) I'd attribute it to the output transformer design.

  • @thisistruereallynews
    @thisistruereallynews Год назад +1

    Astounding sound!

  • @brandonbeach2141
    @brandonbeach2141 10 месяцев назад +2

    I've enjoyed this video. My at home rig is a Fender Bassman 70, mismatched into a cheap Marshall MG 4x12. You'd be surprised at how good it sounds too, haha.

  • @GazCal
    @GazCal Год назад +3

    Great show, I had the Bassman down 😀. On another note, would love to see a show on Tweed comparisons. 5E3, 5E7, 5F4, 5F6….

  • @scottakam
    @scottakam Год назад +1

    Congrats Dan. Sounds great.

  • @NINEWALKING
    @NINEWALKING Год назад +1

    Started watching this video late night Friday. Finished it on Saturday early in the morning because I couldn’t sleep. As it happens, this time of the year it’s my B-day today. Why that matters, well it happens that I get something for myself as well. This time around it was my decision to expand in house speakers and cabinets rig. Despite me ordering on time only yesterday everything was ready for the testing and obligatory breaking in of the speakers. When you design an amplifier, especially a head unit you have to make sure how it works with the different cabinets and you have to be able to demonstrate the difference cabinets and speakers make. At least you have to be able to give good advice how to proceed and what to expect on the volume level used. You can’t in print your taste onto the others and you can’t change the fact that they are going to use what ever cabinet they currently have. So you want to tell them what can they expect or even arrange to come to their rehearsal with your head and help them out. Mostly, what happens is that their cabinet is not at the amps level but the amplifier will sound better in their rig so they will say yeah right get the amplifier and use for longer time their existing cabinet. Then sometimes later some of them will call you and say they have tried really good cabinet and they couldn’t believe how much difference it made despite you telling them that long time ago 😊 So you have to design the amp and test it with the Vintage 30 as well because everyone has them. To add an insult to the injury every Vintage 30 is not the same and even same speaker will not sound the same in different cabinets. Vintage 30 differs in sound depending on when and where it was made as well as what impedance particular speaker is. In some cases it differs for whom is it made for as well. In my humble experience later made in China 16 Ohm models are hardest. Those tend to sound harsh very often. China made doesn’t mean bad. But they are all different. Actually for the people looking for scooped Vintage 30 sound made in China versions will be it. UK made versions, especially earlier production tend to have more middle spectrum and tend to sound more as earlier classic Celestion speakers. Why are they so popular or used so much? Well they are very efficient hence loud (louder is perceived as better very often), they have scooped sound with more top end (that helps amplifiers that lack details and the top end) plus they got good story behind them. They objectively improve lot of amplifiers. The work in most cabinets type and configuration.
    How about Vintage 30 powered with pure boutique point to point amplifier? Well on such amplifiers you start noticing Vintage 30 limitations. Then very things that make them improve some other amplifiers is working against them.
    With a top rig, while you need everything to be at the same level, Vintage 30 often fails showing that it is not at the highest level. Especially with brighter amplifiers it can sound way to top heavy. Switching directly to something that can play more complex material shows the limit for the Vintage 30.
    It is not my favorite speaker. Though I keep on recommending it in certain situations and it works there very good.
    Plus my taste is my personal taste and disregarding how objective I am trying to be it will be subjective view to a complex issue.
    With complex issues general simple proclamations tend to backfire a lot.
    For example, I would say Creamback H is just superior version of the Vintage 30. Then someone gets it and swaps his Vintage 30 in his rig with the Creamback H and goes ballistics while in his rig it sounds worse to him with million reasons why that might be and with heavy personal preferences. If his amplifier lacks top end and has to much middle well more balanced speaker might sound worse. Plus people tend to ignore break in period. Lot of speakers need longer breaking in period to reach their sound.
    With balanced good amps I like Creamback H, new Hempback and Alnico Cream. Hempback quickly becoming one of my favorite ceramic magnet speakers. Yes I do separate speakers by the magnet type. In my humble experience certain type of music profit from certain type of speakers. For a rough example, one might say that for early hard rock sound you want a ceramic magnet speaker. Even going deeper by requesting medium ceramic magnet speaker. Or generalizing that most of the Alnico speakers sound great clean but only some of them sound good overdriven despite how essential is to know at what gain level we are talking about.
    So simple statements are almost impossible.
    Best advise is use what ever works for you and at your gain and volume level.
    See me stating this speaker sounds like this means actually with my rig, at my volume and gain levels, in my cabinet X speaker sounds like that to my ears. Complex thing. That is why I like to see person playing with his rig at his levels and only then I can give my educated guess despite my experience, and pray everything will be at needed quality level or cabinet might kill the sound.
    That is why I say get great cabinet and great amplifier. Try to avoid any component that is at lower level than the rest of the rig.
    Funny thing I am pretty sure what amplifier would be perfect for Daniel but most probably he will never have the chance to try it.

  • @justinguitarcia
    @justinguitarcia Год назад +2

    My big rig for a while was a badcat 30 paired with a victoria tweed bassman (both with 212 cabs) AND is was absolutely epic. Just too much of a rig for virtually all I do so I mostly use a single combo but I get it, those two style of amps paired, absolutely amazing

  • @dwaynejessome1728
    @dwaynejessome1728 Год назад +1

    Very tasty intro Mr. Dan!

  • @Laustify
    @Laustify Год назад +1

    That was EPIC!

  • @eaglerayrob
    @eaglerayrob Год назад +1

    You ended up at a glorious sounding place. The 59' Bassman is hard to beat. I think the Mig 50 has a SS rectifier, which usually helps with the transients but the transients of the bassman weren't lacking. Just a little give from a tube rectifier can feel mighty good under the fingers. Great sounding Rig! Now I'm thinking about that 53 Fender Pro you guys had, and I'm wondering what a 53 Bassman might bring to the table. I love those 6SC7 preamp tubes in the early 50's Tweeds. Great show!

  • @artisanmetalcraft
    @artisanmetalcraft Год назад

    I really dig That Amp Show!

  • @janniklasjansen6561
    @janniklasjansen6561 Год назад +1

    Loved the split second where I was certain that there was a HM2 at the bottom right of the board

  • @andrewpartington7274
    @andrewpartington7274 Год назад +3

    The Bassman definitely fills in all the low end that the Matchless wasn't giving. Such a full sound!!!

  • @scot-combs
    @scot-combs Год назад +1

    This is fantastic!

  • @samcomfort6564
    @samcomfort6564 Год назад +2

    Absolutely unreal guitar sounds from Dan.

  • @mark.guitar
    @mark.guitar Год назад

    There's a line of text missing on Mick's tee shirt. Guitars & Amplifiers & pedals & coffee ...
    40 mins in and the look of "Oh yeah!" was worth waiting for. Great vid guys.

  • @gbarge4
    @gbarge4 Год назад +1

    Have a cigar, lads. Great show. Funny how my instant takeaway is to look up Matchless, having absolutely no practical justification for doing so...

  • @astewart9410
    @astewart9410 Год назад

    That intro playing… Dan. Amazing.

  • @lars-eriklarsson85
    @lars-eriklarsson85 Год назад +1

    Dan need to try out the silverpanel bassman aswell. ❤ ty for the fun!

  • @BlackshotAUT
    @BlackshotAUT Год назад

    Everytime I hear the Matchless I know that sooner or later I'm going to have to make this purchase and the day I do will be glorious 😊

  • @GitShiddy
    @GitShiddy Год назад

    Wonderful stuff, and as ever the answer is Tweed.
    It hit no brainer for me when you guys started using the wet effects into the amps. The Sovtek sounded like it was amplifying delay & reverb, whilst the Bassbreaker sounded like a gig; not needing a dry amp to sound epic. But then you added one and my gaaaahd.

    • @GitShiddy
      @GitShiddy Год назад

      @@GCKelloch What I heard was more a difference in integration of effected signal in comparison. To my ear the Bassbreaker sounded more of a piece. But hey, that's just how it came across to me via RUclips compression.

  • @jaydensuttles5198
    @jaydensuttles5198 Год назад +2

    To me a vintage 30 is a great speaker for a bassman, fender absolutely knew what they were doing there. Can handle the punch of the amp and has a clarity that I love.

  • @Bero70
    @Bero70 Год назад +1

    Love every episode,and all about TPS. Just to help me understand: A. Timmons is playing stereo and that is my favorite tone of all time. Wet /Dry is a thing, I get it. What I don't understand is why Andy can get away with "stereo" and you guys prefer Wet/Dry. What are technical challenges. Thank you guys for all this years, and many more to come.

  • @BrentAdams
    @BrentAdams Год назад +1

    Sounds Great!

  • @PAHVID
    @PAHVID Год назад +1

    Fun episode!

  • @joelhabrial3897
    @joelhabrial3897 Год назад +2

    Tweed is the answer! The more I play my Deluxe, the more I love it. I am so looking forward to the tweed show coming together (Working Title: Need for Tweed)!

  • @pauleddy5146
    @pauleddy5146 Год назад

    Nice complimentary cohesive amp marriage you have there sir(s). From my chair you two have done well to step up to the next level of your journey into personal sonic nirvana. And contrary to it's name, the Matchless has found a match, or at least partner.

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert7347 Год назад

    Winner winner chicken dinner! Sounds amazing, Dan.
    As a pretty heavy Tremolo user, I find that the transient response in the wet amp becomes more apparent when I kick in a hefty bias-style trem or a thrubby harmonic type. It's as if the peak of the amplitude waves throw the transients into relief. I suppose it makes sense, given the literal amplitude modulation happening with Tremolo.

  • @ITheFight
    @ITheFight Год назад

    I run a wet/ wet stereo with two Marshall plexi amps. I love it and both cabs are loaded with Ev12L speakers.

  • @hkguitar1984
    @hkguitar1984 Год назад +1

    Those Vintage 30s can be used to bump the volume of almost any amplifier.
    I've an old 1987x with a 2x12" cab that was loaded with the Vintage 30s, it sounded great but was to loud for what I was doing.
    Switching to Greenbacks changed the tone/feel of the amp, but more importantly for myself, they lowered the sound pressure levels considerably.
    Great content.

  • @waynetoneseekerandersen2213
    @waynetoneseekerandersen2213 Год назад

    I like that Mick has not forgotten the low input… anytime I have had issues with strident unnatural “wet” effects, I plug wet effects into separate amp into the low input and makes it blend… it also works with mono effects rig to make things more natural.

  • @bobtailedcollieradford3682
    @bobtailedcollieradford3682 Год назад +1

    At the start of the video I thought what a load of cork sniffing nonsense. At the end of the video it was oh, I get it now! Sounded epic! Nice work, well explained!

  • @gregfitzpatrick9326
    @gregfitzpatrick9326 Год назад +3

    This is awesome! I wish you guys would have run the sovtek through vintage 30s.

    • @johnb4024
      @johnb4024 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah this would have been a lot better comparison if they are both through vintage 30s

  • @Pstaines439
    @Pstaines439 Год назад

    Seeing the V30s in the Bassman warms my heart. I've been running my fender champ clone head and also my Twin with V30s for a decade. Glorious and miles more headroom than Jensens, which while not a 'fender thing' suits me perfectly. Also the wet/dry and stereo 'thing' is fascinating. I've only tried stereo and while I love it, I just can't deal with the faff of having two amps and swapping pedal cabling when I need to run a single amp.

  • @alistairdavis3592
    @alistairdavis3592 Год назад

    Great video! I only wish you'd give that beautiful Jaguar in the background more airtime!