Thank you for checking out the video! This is one way of doing it. This process worked well for me, and i thought it might for others too. Let me know how it goes!
Very interesting, thanks! We have a slightly different laminator and we're having a lot of trouble with wrinkling when laminating large pieces of vinyl for signs. Usually I stand in the back and peel the backing while my husband rolls it through, maybe it's too much tension? I'll have to try your method of peeling the backing before starting.
Since the pressure of this machine is manually adjusted, how can you be so sure if the pressure is balanced when using it with different material thickness like applying stickers onto sintraboards or acrylic sheets? Im from the Philippines by the way. Thanks!
Best advice I can offer is to run test samples. I've never tried what you're wanting to do so can't give a definite answer. All I did on this machine was screw knobs all the way out, then count how many full turns as I screwed them back in. Make sure both sides are done equally.
Hello there, thanks for sharing this - much appreciated - it sure is a wide roller could do some quite large things on it. It would be interesting to see how it fared with you mounting some text or graphics onto say a thin PVC foam board (like Sintra ) or just matt board or very thin wood sheet or even thin plexiglass but what ever - mounting an image onto a rigid material. I have subscribed in the event that you do have a go at this kind of project.
I have attempted to apply laminating film to a 1/16" thick substrate and the rollers do not raise high enough on this particular cold laminator. I'm sure it's possible to do with some tinkering... have not had a project that required it to attempt again..
Hi there. I've been looking for a 54 in. cold roll laminator everywhere. On ebay, amazon, aliexpress. Do you have a link for this laminator? The only sizes I can find are 51 in. 55 in. and 63 in. It surprises me you couldn't find any helpful videos with this type of laminator. I've found plenty.
Unfortunately what you've found is all I'd be able to find. If you need something to do 54" wide, grab that 55" or 63". You can always do smaller material on a big laminator. That's what's nice about a wide one. Can do a wide variety of widths. - At the time of this video I didnt find anything. Nothing explained "do's and dont's".
My environment is pretty much dust and debris free. I keep my studio tidy. However, if your room is too dry, then yes, dust particles can attract to film from static.
how much tension do you recommend? I have experimented with light tension and heavy tension and I can't really say I can tell a difference. I do have a problem with random dust attraction though. If you have any tips besides vacuuming and dusting (Which i do do), it would be appreciated.
Print shop owner here. You want light tension. Basically you want the rollers to lightly touch with your material loaded, and then give it an extra 1/4 turn at maximum. Too much tension can warp the rollers, and can cause what's called a "D wave", where the material gets a very slight fold kind of like a taco, causing bubbles in the laminate.
You do not compromise the adhesive on your adhesive vinyl stock. The adhesive clear laminate adheres and does not affect the adhesive vinyl stock. It does however make the overall thickness, thicker and be mindful if you're putting standard laminate over cast vinyl stock - it does not stretch.
Assuming you're printing with either a EcoSol or Latex printer - when browsing a laminate to purchase, be sure it can be laid over your type of ink. Brand, thickness, gloss/matte, all other variants is user preference based on your project needs. However, id recommend you stay with the same brand of vinyl and laminate, ie., Oracal. Reading and comparing laminates on a web store like the one I mentioned is great place to start for general knowledge. To answer your second question - No. Vinyl whether printed or solid color vinyl for die cutting, Shrinks over time. But the shrinkage is typically so miniscule, (when laid on a flat substrate) you'll never know the difference.
Hi I have tension at what I consider "medium". Just enough to pull both pieces of material through but not tight enough to "crush" the material. Hopefully that makes sense. Its a trial an error.. use your own judgment. Just make sure each side is even.
@@wheelindealin160 Thank you for the reply. I have a 63 inch and I just can not get it right. I keep getting wrinkles. I have wasted so much materials.
@D yes lol I'm trying to laminate over printed and printed polypropylene I can't figure out a good enough pressure with rollers its a 63 inch cold laminator. Everything seems round no flat spots on rollers.
Wrinkles come from too much tension or uneven laminating film. If you look at my method I mention that I pull the film over the top roller and make sure when I do that both the film and work piece is even. Make sure your film is tight over top roller and where the top and bottom roller meet, the film is not loose.
Had that happen very little as my work area is always very clean. Occasionally if I do not run my dehumidifier, I deal with with static. This method is NOT the only one known. There are others, but this one is simple and effective for the beginner. It May not be ideal for a professional sign shop working on multiple jobs, but that's what a $5000+ laminator is for... Thank you for your input anyhow.
Thank you for taking the time to make this, I just got this one and it had no instructions.
Thank you for checking out the video!
This is one way of doing it. This process worked well for me, and i thought it might for others too.
Let me know how it goes!
Thanks for the video, I have the same machine and have problem with bubbels and wrinkling. Hi wonder about how much pressure you are using?
thank you for the much needed video, it was actually very helpful
Very interesting, thanks! We have a slightly different laminator and we're having a lot of trouble with wrinkling when laminating large pieces of vinyl for signs. Usually I stand in the back and peel the backing while my husband rolls it through, maybe it's too much tension? I'll have to try your method of peeling the backing before starting.
It's very much trial an error. Thank you for watching 🙏
@@wheelindealin160 trial and error is too expensive 😬
i appreciate your video. i have been looking into this machine. haha. i was so curious how it worked.
Cheers thanks for doing this,
Thank you for this!
Since the pressure of this machine is manually adjusted, how can you be so sure if the pressure is balanced when using it with different material thickness like applying stickers onto sintraboards or acrylic sheets? Im from the Philippines by the way. Thanks!
Best advice I can offer is to run test samples.
I've never tried what you're wanting to do so can't give a definite answer.
All I did on this machine was screw knobs all the way out, then count how many full turns as I screwed them back in. Make sure both sides are done equally.
I keep getting wrinkles and bubble.
I have wasted whole lots of materials.
What do you suggest I do?
THANK YOU! have been looking for a clear how to on these! What kind of printable vinyl do you use? your work looks awesome!
Hello there, thanks for sharing this - much appreciated - it sure is a wide roller could do some quite large things on it. It would be interesting to see how it fared with you mounting some text or graphics onto say a thin PVC foam board (like Sintra ) or just matt board or very thin wood sheet or even thin plexiglass but what ever - mounting an image onto a rigid material. I have subscribed in the event that you do have a go at this kind of project.
I have attempted to apply laminating film to a 1/16" thick substrate and the rollers do not raise high enough on this particular cold laminator.
I'm sure it's possible to do with some tinkering... have not had a project that required it to attempt again..
Super helpful thank you.
Great Video Gracias 😁
Hi there. I've been looking for a 54 in. cold roll laminator everywhere. On ebay, amazon, aliexpress. Do you have a link for this laminator? The only sizes I can find are 51 in. 55 in. and 63 in. It surprises me you couldn't find any helpful videos with this type of laminator. I've found plenty.
Unfortunately what you've found is all I'd be able to find. If you need something to do 54" wide, grab that 55" or 63". You can always do smaller material on a big laminator. That's what's nice about a wide one. Can do a wide variety of widths.
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At the time of this video I didnt find anything. Nothing explained "do's and dont's".
@@wheelindealin160 Thanks.
Do you have any issues with dust making contact with the adhesive as it's facing up?
My environment is pretty much dust and debris free. I keep my studio tidy. However, if your room is too dry, then yes, dust particles can attract to film from static.
I like tbis one 36inch
Which state
can buy like this
how much tension do you recommend? I have experimented with light tension and heavy tension and I can't really say I can tell a difference. I do have a problem with random dust attraction though. If you have any tips besides vacuuming and dusting (Which i do do), it would be appreciated.
Print shop owner here. You want light tension. Basically you want the rollers to lightly touch with your material loaded, and then give it an extra 1/4 turn at maximum. Too much tension can warp the rollers, and can cause what's called a "D wave", where the material gets a very slight fold kind of like a taco, causing bubbles in the laminate.
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dont you get some micro air bubbles?
Would these work for something that is double-sided? I have double sided board game maps on poster like paper I want to laminate.
Yes
Just trim the excess off the edge before applying the other side.
Looking to laminate 24" x 36" construction drawings. Would I be able to use this method?
what type of lamination are you using? Where could I look at getting something for the full 51"? I'm doing large format.
Sign outlet store .com
Avery clear lamination. Cheaper line of standard clear laminate. I believe its 2.5mil thickness.
Does anyone have a link to the 54 I'm only seeing 51
Hi My guy
is it advisable to laminate a sticker without compromising the adhesive of the vynl stock?
You do not compromise the adhesive on your adhesive vinyl stock. The adhesive clear laminate adheres and does not affect the adhesive vinyl stock. It does however make the overall thickness, thicker and be mindful if you're putting standard laminate over cast vinyl stock - it does not stretch.
@@wheelindealin160 you rock. is there an alternative laminate that is special made for stickers? Do stickers tend to stretch over time?
Assuming you're printing with either a EcoSol or Latex printer - when browsing a laminate to purchase, be sure it can be laid over your type of ink. Brand, thickness, gloss/matte, all other variants is user preference based on your project needs. However, id recommend you stay with the same brand of vinyl and laminate, ie., Oracal.
Reading and comparing laminates on a web store like the one I mentioned is great place to start for general knowledge.
To answer your second question - No. Vinyl whether printed or solid color vinyl for die cutting, Shrinks over time. But the shrinkage is typically so miniscule, (when laid on a flat substrate) you'll never know the difference.
@@wheelindealin160 knowledge like yours is infinitely valuable so thank you for sharing
is it possible to laminate on one side?
That is exactly what this process is doing. Single side lamination.
Do you recommend a heat or cold laminating machine?
Cold roll
Can you send me link on where to purchase?
Hey - I purchased this off eBay. Lots available.
has any one found 36-40 inch laminating film?
Do you have the link?
No link. You can find these on eBay and Amazon.
How much do you tighten the rollers?
Hi
I have tension at what I consider "medium". Just enough to pull both pieces of material through but not tight enough to "crush" the material.
Hopefully that makes sense. Its a trial an error.. use your own judgment. Just make sure each side is even.
@@wheelindealin160 Thank you for the reply. I have a 63 inch and I just can not get it right. I keep getting wrinkles. I have wasted so much materials.
@D yes lol I'm trying to laminate over printed and printed polypropylene I can't figure out a good enough pressure with rollers its a 63 inch cold laminator. Everything seems round no flat spots on rollers.
Wrinkles come from too much tension or uneven laminating film.
If you look at my method I mention that I pull the film over the top roller and make sure when I do that both the film and work piece is even. Make sure your film is tight over top roller and where the top and bottom roller meet, the film is not loose.
@@wheelindealin160 ok Thank you. As soon as I try again I will let you know how it went!
Price?
Wow, now you have sticky exposed laminate attracting dust and particles 😂😂😂
Had that happen very little as my work area is always very clean. Occasionally if I do not run my dehumidifier, I deal with with static.
This method is NOT the only one known. There are others, but this one is simple and effective for the beginner. It May not be ideal for a professional sign shop working on multiple jobs, but that's what a $5000+ laminator is for... Thank you for your input anyhow.