Everyone who’s freaking out because he said “Sink or Swim”- Have you ever dealt with someone like that? So far gone they don’t even remember you, recognize you as a HUMAN being? I think when you’ve been damaged by someone like that, you get that way. You too will say “You need to sink, or swim. I’m done putting myself away for YOU.”
The emotional fatigue of people supporting people with mental problems is often underestimated and hidden under the rag. This needs to be understood by everyone. When someone has a mental problem they put themselves as well as people close them in danger. That's why it's such a serious issue.
My brother also told me to just kill myself. He said it cuz he and i were best friends and instarted isolating. My brother suffers with bipolar himself. So his next cycle he cried apologizing. I just got diagnosed with schizophrenia at 1 month shy of 30 yrs old. I chose to seek therapy. I had thought it was severe ADHD up until i wasn't able to speak or formulate a thought.
We had to do that with my daughter. She died in July, but she knew we cared and were trying to help her. She actually made it to rehab and died 2 days later. This song is powerful.
Really love Jonny. A very deep artist who's not afraid to be vulnerable with his audience. He really bears / shows it all. It's very honest very authentic. He ROCKS
I know I’m years late on this but I am finally old enough to understand the meaning behind the song, my mother was Jenny and dealt with a heavy drug addiction during the time that my grandmother was dying. Once she passed it did bring my mom to bury herself deeper into her addiction but it also led her to neglect my siblings and I. I was only 12 at the time that she introduced me to nothing more so I couldn’t fully comprehend the meaning but now I relate to it more than ever. But I am happy to say that my mom has overcome her addiction but the song continues to stay in my heart.
#iknowjenny. I am jenny minus the addictions. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and severe anxiety my junior year of high school. I was severely suicidal, angry, impulsive and screaming out for help. I begged God to end my life more than I prayed for him to save me. My 2nd year of college i made the decision to end myself and days before i planned to do it, I found out I was pregnant with twins. That was a pivotal moment for me and changed the course of my life. There IS hope and a future on the other side of pain and confusion. I still have dark moments, absolutely. But I found what grounds me and centers me. 2 people that mean more than my internal darkness. Prayers for your sister to overcome this mental beast.
I have experienced everything you just said, I will pray for you Gabrielle, thank you for sharing this with us, it’s so hard when your brain wants to die but your heart wants to live :(
My son who is 21 just got back from the 2016 Rock Fest, he loved it btw. He was showing me all the bands that were there, I personally do not listen to heavy rock but re-watched this is the time video because it is so powerful. It speaks to so many generations and let me tell you, you are spot on. First I want to say how sorry I am you have lost your mother. Thank you so much for sharing this, it is so important to get out there. I have a daughter that I spent eight years of painfully trying to help her through self abuse and mental hell. No words to really explain how hard it is on family members. horrific. I am glad to say now she has finally come through it and is on a healthy road. You are so courageous and a powerful singer, song writer/performer, keep it up and God bless you, I have faith one day your sister will pull through, my thoughts and prayers are with you. You Are spot on with what you are doing and I commend you for getting your thoughts and words out for others to hear.
bbdhardwire hello I have your sister Jenna Hawkins she is living with me in Pensacola Florida she is clean now she has Been going to Church with me and my husband. I just shown her this interview and she was in tears. she is working on a book about her life and yes she done things not so good but now she is trying to get her self together. she talked with your dad in Texas and she is pregnant again I know what you are thinking but its already done. Jenna has a Facebook under Jenna Hudson please reach out to her and hear her side also thanks God bless
@@krishonbattle4823 Were you serious? I love how the other replies here were about the OP using the term "Heavy Rock" when your going on about "Jenna/Jenny", the subject of the song 'Jenny' and no one noticed!? What the heck?! If you were serious, thanks for helping her, that's really nice, and if not, good one.
if youre names Jeff ill lose my mind. my old man and i went through hell and back together , he had colon cancer and i tried to take care of him. Starting to take care of him when i was a sophomore in highschool docs didnt have much hope he would make it past 50. I developed some series mental issues in the process , but i can confidently say that old man will out live us all now (hes 56) and he'll be able to watch his grandkids graduate highschool. i wouldnt change any of it not even with my mental issues because hes in full remission now. Take care of your families boys... no matter the cost
I found this song when my mom was dying of cancer. my dad has always had a drug and alcohol addiction that definitely got worse when she was diagnosed. He wasn't there for her at all, and i wasn't mentally stable enough to handle it all after all he had put us through. shortly after she died, i was diagnosed schizoaffective with bipolar and severe depression, anxiety and ptsd. i wanted to kill myself and sometimes i still do but i find strength in Nothing More's music and a lot of other music. I can't thank NM enough though because they literally pulled me out of the trenches and helped me see that i needed to get help. If you ever see this Jonny, thank you so much for writing this and putting it out there us who go through these things. Thank you guys for saving my life
(testimony sermon 1) My testimony on what I use to be. I dealt with major depression, anxiety, bipolar, ADHD. I'm diagnosed with all of those. I had thoughts of suicide my parent's favored my siblings over me. I worshipped many false gods although I grew up in the Christian bible belt; and at the same time still believed in Jesus Christ. well not follow Christ like I was supposed to I fell short and realised none of the pagan gods were doing nothing about it. that's because the pagans and every other so called God was created by Satan himself. the story of my pagan path as a former witch and what type of witch I was. Eclectic witches can add too what ever beliefs they want, that's why I chose that path of witches. There is no such thing as a bigger or worse sin, sin is sin. If there was a bigger sin, witchcraft would be 1 of them. ( I have a pentagram on my right wrist and I use it as a testimony of what I use to be. Now I'm a child of God, everyone has fallen short of the glory of God; and we all will still fall to a sin even after we are saved, you have to pick your self and your bros and sisters back up.
Just know I love you and Jesus does to, we all have a pre destined time we will leave the earth, it just so happened to be your mother's time. I'm sorry for your lost sister, my name is jacob and I'm 23 years old.
my daughter struggles with opiate..heroin addiction.and has since she was 15. she's 18 now... and as a mom I can so relate to this song. my mom was also an addict with mental illness..and passed this year....so. .."as we all struggle with one thing or another...we can help raise awareness of an illness that is hidden.. or looked down on by people who don't try to understand... your sister and your family are in my prayers..
Stand-up band and front man! These guys have produced some of the best music I've heard. I'm not easily impressed with a band but these guys have exceeded all expectations I've been looking for in a band! I hear a little Trapt, Dredg, and Red in there music along with Korn bass riffs. Well done!
I love your band and I love this song. In fact it helped me alot. I feel seeing things from the perspective of an outsider one doesn't know who they are hurting. I am Jenny. I overcame and I healed but I was Jenny. Also, the show in Philly at TLA was amazing! I was there! Loved it
I suffer from bad depression and other stuff. I wouldn't expect help and was selfish. Listening to this song reminds me that I gotta get back up or fall. I love this song and it has helped me thru some shit.
Nothing more has to be one of my favorite bands ever and the emotion in their music and depth to meanings is so beautiful. I've met johnny twice he's such an awesome dude. And they are incredible live.
i had a girlfriend for 2 years who had bipolar. i am an australian who was living in england and it wasnt obvious to either of us. not even she knew. a personal thing happened in her life that triggered her to explode and i watched it destroy her at our 9 month mark. i did everything i could to keep her happy and to get her help and keep her safe from herself.. she turned into a different person. she's fine luckily now. she broke up with me because after 2+ years i was too depressed and broken to keep pretending everything was fine. she got what ever strength she had from me and i wasnt strong enough to keep doing it alone. i hope if anybody reads this and is struggling take my advice. it's not their fault. speak to someone, anyone. my girlfriend was perfect but i was alone and had nobody to speak to. i had no idea what to do. talk about it with your family and work it out. they deserve it. she blames me for her disease. shes a good person and i miss her. shes my jenny x
As someone with a 12 year addiction to opiates, I still cry when I hear this song, especially when he says "1000 arms to hold you, but you won't reach for any hands". I only had 2 people that have ever tried to help me, and thats the gods honest truth. Thankfully, I've been able to support my family (first), and stay well throughout it all, thanks to my own successful business. I too, fell down the hole as far as it would go, when I lost my grandmother (one of the only people to help me). She was my best friend, and my everything. After that, my ex of 6 years(3 of which I was clean(the last 3)) and I gave birth to my amazing daughter; my world. My everything. I came home early one day, to find some guy in his boxers, on my couch. After being clean for 3 years(the first 3 years of our daughters life) I went to what I knew would comfort me & not hurt me more than I already was; heroin. Heroin again became my best friend. The one I could count on to always pick me up, and get me thru my days.... no matter what. My daughter has been taken from my life by way of a restraining order pressed by her entire "Christian" family. I cant get past it. I cry every day because I've missed my daughter for the last 3.5 years. Every time I've tried to show up, even just to see her for 2 seconds, they call the police. I hate them. They disgust me. I hate this drug, but it's the only thing that gets me through my days. The money I make means nothing to me. I would give it all to have even 60 seconds with my daughter. I don't know what to do. I'm lost. I'm sad.
He makes such a VALID point with saying sink or swim. When you have someone who you love and they dont want the help you are trying to give them, you get tired of trying and basically tell them fix this or just get it over with already. He's not being cruel in what he said, he's speaking facts and truths from someone who has been there first hand. I think he seems like a great big brother and he loves his sister and just wants the best for her. As a mother, I know you can't just turn your back on your children and it's hard to deal with stuff like what his mother dealt with. Their mom wanted to help her til HER end. I hope his sister gets ALL the help she needs! I love this story! You're amazing Jonny !
Jonny thank you for sharing this heartfelt story, that is some honest and heavy shit to deal with hope you are doing well, allow that pain to translate into your art and music
Great interview. Just wanted to comment because of that Biffy Clyro photo in the background. My favorite band! Recently discovered Nothing More and Jenny is one of my favorite songs.
I really do think he hit it spot on when he said "You need to sink or swim". I get that it will (and already has) affected anyone with a mental illness in a negative way, but it is true. It really is sink or swim and people do have to choose one. I understand (as someone who is diagnosed with bipolar disorder) that people with mental illnesses will sometimes relapse for a short while after being in recovery. But the people who try to help, and I've been in this position too many times, can't be there for them when that said person keeps "relapsing" every day. It truly does wear down the person that is trying to help.
A lot of mental illness runs in my family. I was hit with it, so I understand what she is going through. My dad also died from Leukemia last January. So this song truly touches something deep inside me. I see the struggles muy own family goes through, so many heart goes out to him and his family. Not to mention Jonny is fuckin(sorry) awesome. Take care.
Sorry about your dad. Tht is horrible 💜 my dads been sick/ disabled my whole life and has end stage lung disease so I'm dreading him getting covid....cuz he will die. He has had torn ligaments in his knees, but can't get operated on now for 2 yrs cuz his oxygen is so low
My name is Cindy and i know Jenny i was once her i suffered with mental illness and i looked to drugs to escape from reality!!!! i love Jonny because his band Nothing More exposed this great pandemic illness and drug abuse in society and has went through it himself and overcame it and is brave enough to talk about it!!!!!
Everyone has a “Jenny” side to them,but they refuse to be aware of the darkness that floods their minds with despair,please tell you’re sister this “Motto” that I had written two years ago for my daughter Sasha,”Do Not Allow The Outcome To Consume Who You Will Become”BTW this is my song that I had dedicated to my daughter,I totally understood the meaning of the lyrics when I dedicated it to her,she had become a “Jenny” as well,but she is better now and things are good,you guys are truly,truly an inspiration to people that are to weak to stand on their own,you’re lyrics totally tug at the strings to my soul,please don’t ever stop writing lyrics,y’all are inspiring,take care my friends,Loretta Lynn Farmer!! 📝
My uncle Tommy is the same way. This song hits pretty hard. I grew up with him in and out of my families life because he would give in to his tendencies. Then his father, my grandfather died and he disappeared and a few years later his mother, my grandmother died and and no one has seen him in years. She has always held out hope for him to realize his importance and worth but he won't. Everytime I hear this song I replace Jenny with Tommy.
I’ve been listening to this song for so long and today I decided to look up the official lyric and video after video I somehow found myself here. I know a Jenny, we were best friends in HS but we fell apart because I couldn’t help her but I also couldn’t handle her problems and my own at the same time. Teen years are so tough because it feels like you’re being push and pulled in all different directions and it just can’t keep up emotionally.
Even though I haven’t personally been through anything like he has I do love the emotion all of their songs (Jenny especially) This song in particular is my favorite song to have stuck in my head when mountain biking because it sounds so pure and emotional and it keeps me pushing on.
My sister is my Jenny. I finally had to move my family away from the toxic mess that she continually drug into our lives. You are so right, it's sometimes a sink or swim kind of thing. I've not seen her or spoken to her in over 5 years. I miss my nephews immensely but know it would be opening a can of worms if I was to make contact and my family just can't handle any more of that kind of chaos.
omgosh! god bless you!!! i cant wait to meet you, i saw you at southampton on papa roach tour! but i hope we get to talk. god bless you all! i pray amen edit: and i cry to everyone of your songs, whatever it is. touches my heart and soul. my life will never be the same, rock is my life now hehe
Aww. The video made me sad. I was best friends with Jenna through that time. And i wanted to help her but couldn't get through to her. I know it was a very difficult time for the whole family . I hope she's in a better place now Mental health awareness is important. I have several people in the family that deals with this
@@joes.2788 I don't know why you felt the need to say that but since we're on the topic. What if someone did permanent damage to your body, your home, your kids. You would want a just judge to condemn that person correct? There is a just judge and his name is God. Yaweh. He sends sinners to hell because sinners cause death and damage to their neighbors. Their fellow human beings. If you have ever lied, stolen from your neighbor, became angry with someone for no cause or an unjust cause, commited adultery or even looked at anyone with sexual lust God would righteously condemn you to hell and he would be right for it as he is a Holy God. The good news is that we have a Savior. He walks into the court room and stands for us as sinners. He died and rose again on the third day for those of us that believe in him. He cleanses us of sin and heals us. You can have that too. You just have to stop persecuting believers and let him in to change you. I'll pray for you in the meantime. 🙏
@@jennellsworth5772 I don't need you to clasp your hands together uselessly, while talking to your imaginary friend. I give credit to myself for my own good choices in my life and blame myself for the opposite.
Straight out,i am a Junkie for almost 30 jears now... i look it that way,i have to suffer in this life,dimension or what ever you will call it ! I knew with 15 years,that i become a junkie,heroin had a fascinating sensation to me... 'til this day.i don't know why exactly ! This is only my personal view,don't do,what i have done,this only works for me,dont get me wrong here pleace ! You have to have a strong personality,to deal with this issue ! Jonny Hawkins is a great,inspiring and honest guy,i hope you see this and i wish you all the best in your life ! Sorry for my english,i'm from switzerland 😉😊
I hate that they got backlash for this. People need to realize that, even though the person causing you pain might be going through something, that doesn't make your own feelings of anger or betrayal any less valid. You are allowed to feel your feelings, and you NEED to let yourself feel your feelings. Yes, you SHOULD try and see things from the other person's perspective and try to understand what they're dealing with, but that doesn't have to come at the expense of how you're feeling. That's why I love my therapist; she is excellent at letting you let out your feelings and making sure you understand that your feelings are valid, then talking to you about where the other person's actions/feelings might be coming from just so you can at the very least see that what they did might not be the slight against you that you may have perceived it as at the time. I've been able to tie a lot of my mom's most aggravating behaviors to her own trauma (that I've been able to piece together over the years, since getting her to open fully is like pulling teeth), and it allows me to empathize in ways I couldn't before, but I HAD to get through the mist of my own feeling first in order to see it.
Hey, my name is Patrick and I understand Jenny. I'm bipolar and I've been through self mutilation and months if not years of suicidal tendencies and just let your sister know Jonny that hope exists on the other side. like you said- with time comes grace.
I'm the black sheep of the family, some ways by choice, others not so much. I'm pretty sure (with the exclusion of one cousin who is pansexual... also immediate family is catholic) I'm the only gay person in the family. Diagnosed with anxiety, ptsd, and bipolar disorder after coming home from deployment. Theres so much shot that goes on in the brain. You cant think straight (haha straight), your mind fears the worst, you isolate yourself because you cant cope with things. I havent seen my mom in 4ish months. Every time I leave, I fant help thinking about me getting in an accident, or my mom, or my sisters, and that it would be the last time I see them. Really stupid actually, but it kills me inside. Every time. I'm glad that songs like this, and I'll include out of it by Memphis may fire, exist. They are songs that so many people can relate to on different levels
This song is BRILLIANT…. If it triggers you, then you may want to examine your thoughts. I am Jenny. I flip everything to the black, and alienate myself. Born Jennifer, my father always said, “she is not a Jenny.” We lost him to pancreatic cancer. I was 17 and my brother was 15. Our relationship has been rocky ever since. Over two decades later, we are still trying to tread in the wake. I would skip this song at first. I hated it! I did not want to see how ugly I could be. As I am healing, and challenging my own thoughts, I can see my family’s perspective of me. The pain I feel from being “rejected” in my mind is not worth causing anymore pain. That is number one. To not inflict negativity. That is something a Jenny would do. I strive every day to not be a “Jenny.” She is like a sad, bitchy “Karen.” It feels like no one cares about my pain. That is what feeds the cycle. I want to know I am loved despite how my mind twists everything. Love would cancel it all out, yet I push people away because of the hurt. I also try to love others despite how their mind twists things. It is like two people speaking different languages asking for directions! When you detach from it emotionally, you can see it, but there is no way to fix it. My brother and I cannot put each other in a bad box. We know who the other is underneath it ALL. The reaction to trauma our brains have built is not who we really are at our core. This is what I believe. I don’t really even know how he feels. I hated this song when I was not sure I was wrong. Now I see my patterns. I know myself better. Now this song motivates me to be the Jennifer my dad intended. Fuck my Jenny! That bitch is dead. As a person that went through this eye opening process, I was at the point to sink or swim with myself. As harsh as it is, I am sure my family was, too. I cannot blame them for not wanting to deal with it anymore. I didn’t want to either. I have just wanted to die so many, many times. To make the pain stop. But I KNOW I have so much more to live for. Thank you for this song. It is a cold, hard truth. Makes people want to avoid it! Many of your songs have helped me see patterns and develop an outlook of coping. With hope. Hopefully this hell we are all going through is the catalyst for great things ahead.
I know I'm a Jenny and I'm trying so hard to get better, but it's hard when you've been sent from doctor to doctor, therapist to psychiatrist, all of them telling you that the next one will be able to help you. Meanwhile all the friends I had are moving on with their lives and leaving me even more lonely. I'm just trying to hold on, because that's all I can do right now.
if you'll get back to me john, i adore your record. the story of parables, the way its paced, the absolute mastery of the effects and instrumentation... did you ever consider working on an album about fantasy defining the culture of reality? i am a song writer and musician myself, and the way you do things is just amazing. please get back to me! i love your work and hope you and your family get through this hard time of bad decisions and physical/mental traumas so the art can flourish.
Everybody dances around the shit that songs about it's too taboo for them to mention talk about or otherwise until you've gone through it you don't fucking know
depression and anxiety arent a joke..people die from it...you might make fun of it..but its not funny..people hurt when they're going thru depression and anxiety.physically and mentally..take care of them..they need you..please
I have to wonder why people get depressed like this. Like, what are they depressed about? Just where they are with their life or what? I'm not asking that as a rhetorical question, it's a serious question and I actually don't know. I don't think I suffer from depression so I wouldn't know.
Dan Shaffer well its a mental illness so you get it from being born with it or can develop it through trauma. With some mental illness it doesn't really matter where you are in life you just always or often feel low. I don't like describing how my depression is as an example because everyone's depression affects them differently. You can Google a bit more on it to get a better understanding if you'd like though.
Hey, my name is Patrick and I understand Jenny. I'm bipolar and I've been through self mutilation and months if not years of suicidal tendencies and just let your sister know Jonny that hope exists on the other side. like you said- with time comes grace.
Everyone who’s freaking out because he said “Sink or Swim”- Have you ever dealt with someone like that? So far gone they don’t even remember you, recognize you as a HUMAN being? I think when you’ve been damaged by someone like that, you get that way. You too will say “You need to sink, or swim. I’m done putting myself away for YOU.”
Absolutely.
So glad you said that!
The emotional fatigue of people supporting people with mental problems is often underestimated and hidden under the rag. This needs to be understood by everyone. When someone has a mental problem they put themselves as well as people close them in danger. That's why it's such a serious issue.
My brother also told me to just kill myself. He said it cuz he and i were best friends and instarted isolating. My brother suffers with bipolar himself. So his next cycle he cried apologizing. I just got diagnosed with schizophrenia at 1 month shy of 30 yrs old. I chose to seek therapy. I had thought it was severe ADHD up until i wasn't able to speak or formulate a thought.
We had to do that with my daughter. She died in July, but she knew we cared and were trying to help her. She actually made it to rehab and died 2 days later. This song is powerful.
Really love Jonny. A very deep artist who's not afraid to be vulnerable with his audience. He really bears / shows it all. It's very honest very authentic. He ROCKS
Jonny hawkins, wearing not one, but two layers of clothing over his upper body, you see something new every day
This joke is old as Biden. It has dementia now!
I know I’m years late on this but I am finally old enough to understand the meaning behind the song, my mother was Jenny and dealt with a heavy drug addiction during the time that my grandmother was dying. Once she passed it did bring my mom to bury herself deeper into her addiction but it also led her to neglect my siblings and I. I was only 12 at the time that she introduced me to nothing more so I couldn’t fully comprehend the meaning but now I relate to it more than ever. But I am happy to say that my mom has overcome her addiction but the song continues to stay in my heart.
#iknowjenny. I am jenny minus the addictions. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and severe anxiety my junior year of high school. I was severely suicidal, angry, impulsive and screaming out for help. I begged God to end my life more than I prayed for him to save me. My 2nd year of college i made the decision to end myself and days before i planned to do it, I found out I was pregnant with twins. That was a pivotal moment for me and changed the course of my life. There IS hope and a future on the other side of pain and confusion. I still have dark moments, absolutely. But I found what grounds me and centers me. 2 people that mean more than my internal darkness. Prayers for your sister to overcome this mental beast.
I have experienced everything you just said, I will pray for you Gabrielle, thank you for sharing this with us, it’s so hard when your brain wants to die but your heart wants to live :(
This guy's music has so much meaning compared to what's out now a days. That's why it feels so riveting and deep when they sing
Every song I hear from him gives me chills.
My son who is 21 just got back from the 2016 Rock Fest, he loved it btw. He was showing me all the bands that were there, I personally do not listen to heavy rock but re-watched this is the time video because it is so powerful. It speaks to so many generations and let me tell you, you are spot on. First I want to say how sorry I am you have lost your mother. Thank you so much for sharing this, it is so important to get out there. I have a daughter that I spent eight years of painfully trying to help her through self abuse and mental hell. No words to really explain how hard it is on family members. horrific. I am glad to say now she has finally come through it and is on a healthy road. You are so courageous and a powerful singer, song writer/performer, keep it up and God bless you, I have faith one day your sister will pull through, my thoughts and prayers are with you. You Are spot on with what you are doing and I commend you for getting your thoughts and words out for others to hear.
bbdhardwire u mean hard rock not heavy rock because I'm pretty sure that heavy rock doesn't exist. So I'm guessing u were trying to say hard rock.
bbdhardwire hello I have your sister Jenna Hawkins she is living with me in Pensacola Florida she is clean now she has Been going to Church with me and my husband. I just shown her this interview and she was in tears. she is working on a book about her life and yes she done things not so good but now she is trying to get her self together. she talked with your dad in Texas and she is pregnant again I know what you are thinking but its already done. Jenna has a Facebook under Jenna Hudson please reach out to her and hear her side also thanks God bless
It's cute that you think Nothing more is heavy rock. You should here the shit 'rock heads' listen to. That shits scary
@@krishonbattle4823 Were you serious? I love how the other replies here were about the OP using the term "Heavy Rock" when your going on about "Jenna/Jenny", the subject of the song 'Jenny' and no one noticed!? What the heck?! If you were serious, thanks for helping her, that's really nice, and if not, good one.
if youre names Jeff ill lose my mind. my old man and i went through hell and back together , he had colon cancer and i tried to take care of him. Starting to take care of him when i was a sophomore in highschool docs didnt have much hope he would make it past 50. I developed some series mental issues in the process , but i can confidently say that old man will out live us all now (hes 56) and he'll be able to watch his grandkids graduate highschool. i wouldnt change any of it not even with my mental issues because hes in full remission now. Take care of your families boys... no matter the cost
I found this song when my mom was dying of cancer. my dad has always had a drug and alcohol addiction that definitely got worse when she was diagnosed. He wasn't there for her at all, and i wasn't mentally stable enough to handle it all after all he had put us through. shortly after she died, i was diagnosed schizoaffective with bipolar and severe depression, anxiety and ptsd. i wanted to kill myself and sometimes i still do but i find strength in Nothing More's music and a lot of other music. I can't thank NM enough though because they literally pulled me out of the trenches and helped me see that i needed to get help. If you ever see this Jonny, thank you so much for writing this and putting it out there us who go through these things. Thank you guys for saving my life
(testimony sermon 1)
My testimony on what I use to be.
I dealt with major depression, anxiety, bipolar, ADHD. I'm diagnosed with all of those. I had thoughts of suicide my parent's favored my siblings over me. I worshipped many false gods although I grew up in the Christian bible belt; and at the same time still believed in Jesus Christ. well not follow Christ like I was supposed to I fell short and realised none of the pagan gods were doing nothing about it. that's because the pagans and every other so called God was created by Satan himself.
the story of my pagan path as a former witch and what type of witch I was.
Eclectic witches can add too what ever beliefs they want, that's why I chose that path of witches. There is no such thing as a bigger or worse sin, sin is sin. If there was a bigger sin, witchcraft would be 1 of them. ( I have a pentagram on my right wrist and I use it as a testimony of what I use to be. Now I'm a child of God, everyone has fallen short of the glory of God; and we all will still fall to a sin even after we are saved, you have to pick your self and your bros and sisters back up.
jacobsoilderofjesuschrist@gmail.com is my other account
Just know I love you and Jesus does to, we all have a pre destined time we will leave the earth, it just so happened to be your mother's time. I'm sorry for your lost sister, my name is jacob and I'm 23 years old.
;( i wanna cry
I'm not crying. My eyes are sweating.
ME FUCKING TOO THO
my daughter struggles with opiate..heroin addiction.and has since she was 15. she's 18 now... and as a mom I can so relate to this song. my mom was also an addict with mental illness..and passed this year....so. .."as we all struggle with one thing or another...we can help raise awareness of an illness that is hidden.. or looked down on by people who don't try to understand... your sister and your family are in my prayers..
Lkayy Photography hope your sister got help. i had a sister who was a heroin addict and sadly i lost her at 31yrs old this year in june.
@@ghostwiththemost5097so sorry about your sister hope y'all are staying safe
Stand-up band and front man! These guys have produced some of the best music I've heard. I'm not easily impressed with a band but these guys have exceeded all expectations I've been looking for in a band! I hear a little Trapt, Dredg, and Red in there music along with Korn bass riffs. Well done!
I love your band and I love this song. In fact it helped me alot. I feel seeing things from the perspective of an outsider one doesn't know who they are hurting. I am Jenny. I overcame and I healed but I was Jenny. Also, the show in Philly at TLA was amazing! I was there! Loved it
'This makes the album that much deeper.
I suffer from bad depression and other stuff. I wouldn't expect help and was selfish. Listening to this song reminds me that I gotta get back up or fall. I love this song and it has helped me thru some shit.
Great story! Thanks for sharing this.
Nothing more has to be one of my favorite bands ever and the emotion in their music and depth to meanings is so beautiful. I've met johnny twice he's such an awesome dude. And they are incredible live.
I am so grateful to be in recovery.
i had a girlfriend for 2 years who had bipolar. i am an australian who was living in england and it wasnt obvious to either of us. not even she knew. a personal thing happened in her life that triggered her to explode and i watched it destroy her at our 9 month mark. i did everything i could to keep her happy and to get her help and keep her safe from herself.. she turned into a different person. she's fine luckily now. she broke up with me because after 2+ years i was too depressed and broken to keep pretending everything was fine. she got what ever strength she had from me and i wasnt strong enough to keep doing it alone. i hope if anybody reads this and is struggling take my advice. it's not their fault. speak to someone, anyone. my girlfriend was perfect but i was alone and had nobody to speak to. i had no idea what to do. talk about it with your family and work it out. they deserve it.
she blames me for her disease. shes a good person and i miss her. shes my jenny x
As someone with a 12 year addiction to opiates, I still cry when I hear this song, especially when he says "1000 arms to hold you, but you won't reach for any hands". I only had 2 people that have ever tried to help me, and thats the gods honest truth.
Thankfully, I've been able to support my family (first), and stay well throughout it all, thanks to my own successful business. I too, fell down the hole as far as it would go, when I lost my grandmother (one of the only people to help me). She was my best friend, and my everything. After that, my ex of 6 years(3 of which I was clean(the last 3)) and I gave birth to my amazing daughter; my world. My everything. I came home early one day, to find some guy in his boxers, on my couch. After being clean for 3 years(the first 3 years of our daughters life) I went to what I knew would comfort me & not hurt me more than I already was; heroin. Heroin again became my best friend. The one I could count on to always pick me up, and get me thru my days.... no matter what.
My daughter has been taken from my life by way of a restraining order pressed by her entire "Christian" family. I cant get past it. I cry every day because I've missed my daughter for the last 3.5 years. Every time I've tried to show up, even just to see her for 2 seconds, they call the police. I hate them. They disgust me.
I hate this drug, but it's the only thing that gets me through my days. The money I make means nothing to me. I would give it all to have even 60 seconds with my daughter. I don't know what to do. I'm lost. I'm sad.
Very beautifully said and beautifully honest. You turned something bad into something beautiful. And this song helped me in ways forsure.
He makes such a VALID point with saying sink or swim. When you have someone who you love and they dont want the help you are trying to give them, you get tired of trying and basically tell them fix this or just get it over with already. He's not being cruel in what he said, he's speaking facts and truths from someone who has been there first hand. I think he seems like a great big brother and he loves his sister and just wants the best for her. As a mother, I know you can't just turn your back on your children and it's hard to deal with stuff like what his mother dealt with. Their mom wanted to help her til HER end. I hope his sister gets ALL the help she needs! I love this story! You're amazing Jonny !
Saw you guys (Nothing More) in Myrtle Beach. Absolutely badass performance. Made me a lifelong fan.
Jonny thank you for sharing this heartfelt story, that is some honest and heavy shit to deal with hope you are doing well, allow that pain to translate into your art and music
That 1 thumbs down really pisses me off...
Obviously 4 people dont underetand dealing with a person enduring drug abuse.
It's up to 5 now let's change this
@@oswaldjenkins8557 6 now. how do you change it? you get those 6 people to come back to the video and thumbs up?
Great interview. Just wanted to comment because of that Biffy Clyro photo in the background. My favorite band!
Recently discovered Nothing More and Jenny is one of my favorite songs.
I really do think he hit it spot on when he said "You need to sink or swim". I get that it will (and already has) affected anyone with a mental illness in a negative way, but it is true. It really is sink or swim and people do have to choose one. I understand (as someone who is diagnosed with bipolar disorder) that people with mental illnesses will sometimes relapse for a short while after being in recovery. But the people who try to help, and I've been in this position too many times, can't be there for them when that said person keeps "relapsing" every day. It truly does wear down the person that is trying to help.
A lot of mental illness runs in my family. I was hit with it, so I understand what she is going through. My dad also died from Leukemia last January. So this song truly touches something deep inside me. I see the struggles muy own family goes through, so many heart goes out to him and his family. Not to mention Jonny is fuckin(sorry) awesome. Take care.
Sorry about your dad. Tht is horrible 💜 my dads been sick/ disabled my whole life and has end stage lung disease so I'm dreading him getting covid....cuz he will die. He has had torn ligaments in his knees, but can't get operated on now for 2 yrs cuz his oxygen is so low
My name is Cindy and i know Jenny i was once her i suffered with mental illness and i looked to drugs to escape from reality!!!! i love Jonny because his band Nothing More exposed this great pandemic illness and drug abuse in society and has went through it himself and overcame it and is brave enough to talk about it!!!!!
Your names serena
Everyone has a “Jenny” side to them,but they refuse to be aware of the darkness that floods their minds with despair,please tell you’re sister this “Motto” that I had written two years ago for my daughter Sasha,”Do Not Allow The Outcome To Consume Who You Will Become”BTW this is my song that I had dedicated to my daughter,I totally understood the meaning of the lyrics when I dedicated it to her,she had become a “Jenny” as well,but she is better now and things are good,you guys are truly,truly an inspiration to people that are to weak to stand on their own,you’re lyrics totally tug at the strings to my soul,please don’t ever stop writing lyrics,y’all are inspiring,take care my friends,Loretta Lynn Farmer!! 📝
My uncle Tommy is the same way. This song hits pretty hard. I grew up with him in and out of my families life because he would give in to his tendencies. Then his father, my grandfather died and he disappeared and a few years later his mother, my grandmother died and and no one has seen him in years. She has always held out hope for him to realize his importance and worth but he won't. Everytime I hear this song I replace Jenny with Tommy.
I’ve been listening to this song for so long and today I decided to look up the official lyric and video after video I somehow found myself here. I know a Jenny, we were best friends in HS but we fell apart because I couldn’t help her but I also couldn’t handle her problems and my own at the same time. Teen years are so tough because it feels like you’re being push and pulled in all different directions and it just can’t keep up emotionally.
i know how mental health plays a part in lives. i live w depression and anxiety . he's a good guy.
Even though I haven’t personally been through anything like he has I do love the emotion all of their songs (Jenny especially) This song in particular is my favorite song to have stuck in my head when mountain biking because it sounds so pure and emotional and it keeps me pushing on.
My sister is my Jenny. I finally had to move my family away from the toxic mess that she continually drug into our lives. You are so right, it's sometimes a sink or swim kind of thing. I've not seen her or spoken to her in over 5 years. I miss my nephews immensely but know it would be opening a can of worms if I was to make contact and my family just can't handle any more of that kind of chaos.
omgosh! god bless you!!! i cant wait to meet you, i saw you at southampton on papa roach tour! but i hope we get to talk. god bless you all! i pray amen
edit: and i cry to everyone of your songs, whatever it is. touches my heart and soul. my life will never be the same, rock is my life now hehe
Aww. The video made me sad. I was best friends with Jenna through that time. And i wanted to help her but couldn't get through to her. I know it was a very difficult time for the whole family . I hope she's in a better place now
Mental health awareness is important. I have several people in the family that deals with this
This song literally saved my life. 💜🙌🙏. Thankyou Jesus for my life. I am Jenny (not his Jenny) and this was my life
Thanks Jesus? He didn't write this song.
@@joes.2788 I don't know why you felt the need to say that but since we're on the topic. What if someone did permanent damage to your body, your home, your kids. You would want a just judge to condemn that person correct? There is a just judge and his name is God. Yaweh. He sends sinners to hell because sinners cause death and damage to their neighbors. Their fellow human beings. If you have ever lied, stolen from your neighbor, became angry with someone for no cause or an unjust cause, commited adultery or even looked at anyone with sexual lust God would righteously condemn you to hell and he would be right for it as he is a Holy God. The good news is that we have a Savior. He walks into the court room and stands for us as sinners. He died and rose again on the third day for those of us that believe in him. He cleanses us of sin and heals us. You can have that too. You just have to stop persecuting believers and let him in to change you. I'll pray for you in the meantime. 🙏
@@jennellsworth5772 I don't need you to clasp your hands together uselessly, while talking to your imaginary friend. I give credit to myself for my own good choices in my life and blame myself for the opposite.
@@joes.2788 awesome. I'm happy you feel that way. I'll dust my feet off now and be blocking. God will handle the rest 🙏 🙌 💜
Thanks for sharing your story love the song even more
See you in Cincinnati
My sister and mother are bipolar, with manic depression. I know where you are coming from Jonny...oh how I know.
good guy
I have many of those disorders and I do hope the best for her as I know how hard it is.
This speaks volumes to me.
Straight out,i am a Junkie for almost 30 jears now... i look it that way,i have to suffer in this life,dimension or what ever you will call it ! I knew with 15 years,that i become a junkie,heroin had a fascinating sensation to me... 'til this day.i don't know why exactly ! This is only my personal view,don't do,what i have done,this only works for me,dont get me wrong here pleace ! You have to have a strong personality,to deal with this issue !
Jonny Hawkins is a great,inspiring and honest guy,i hope you see this and i wish you all the best in your life !
Sorry for my english,i'm from switzerland 😉😊
I hate that they got backlash for this. People need to realize that, even though the person causing you pain might be going through something, that doesn't make your own feelings of anger or betrayal any less valid. You are allowed to feel your feelings, and you NEED to let yourself feel your feelings. Yes, you SHOULD try and see things from the other person's perspective and try to understand what they're dealing with, but that doesn't have to come at the expense of how you're feeling. That's why I love my therapist; she is excellent at letting you let out your feelings and making sure you understand that your feelings are valid, then talking to you about where the other person's actions/feelings might be coming from just so you can at the very least see that what they did might not be the slight against you that you may have perceived it as at the time. I've been able to tie a lot of my mom's most aggravating behaviors to her own trauma (that I've been able to piece together over the years, since getting her to open fully is like pulling teeth), and it allows me to empathize in ways I couldn't before, but I HAD to get through the mist of my own feeling first in order to see it.
I have a lot of respect for this band.
Thank you
Hey, my name is Patrick and I understand Jenny. I'm bipolar and I've been through self mutilation and months if not years of suicidal tendencies and just let your sister know Jonny that hope exists on the other side. like you said- with time comes grace.
love this so real to some of us
#iwasjenny #iamjenny
I will always be Jenny
Couldn’t love this more. It’s true sometimes it feels like you’ve had enough . Sink or swim #iknowjenny
This song describes the point of my life rn and im the youngest
I agree even if this comment is old
I'm the black sheep of the family, some ways by choice, others not so much.
I'm pretty sure (with the exclusion of one cousin who is pansexual... also immediate family is catholic) I'm the only gay person in the family. Diagnosed with anxiety, ptsd, and bipolar disorder after coming home from deployment. Theres so much shot that goes on in the brain. You cant think straight (haha straight), your mind fears the worst, you isolate yourself because you cant cope with things.
I havent seen my mom in 4ish months. Every time I leave, I fant help thinking about me getting in an accident, or my mom, or my sisters, and that it would be the last time I see them. Really stupid actually, but it kills me inside. Every time.
I'm glad that songs like this, and I'll include out of it by Memphis may fire, exist. They are songs that so many people can relate to on different levels
Dude me and him have the same name
This song is BRILLIANT…. If it triggers you, then you may want to examine your thoughts. I am Jenny. I flip everything to the black, and alienate myself. Born Jennifer, my father always said, “she is not a Jenny.” We lost him to pancreatic cancer. I was 17 and my brother was 15. Our relationship has been rocky ever since. Over two decades later, we are still trying to tread in the wake.
I would skip this song at first. I hated it! I did not want to see how ugly I could be. As I am healing, and challenging my own thoughts, I can see my family’s perspective of me. The pain I feel from being “rejected” in my mind is not worth causing anymore pain. That is number one. To not inflict negativity. That is something a Jenny would do. I strive every day to not be a “Jenny.” She is like a sad, bitchy “Karen.”
It feels like no one cares about my pain. That is what feeds the cycle. I want to know I am loved despite how my mind twists everything. Love would cancel it all out, yet I push people away because of the hurt. I also try to love others despite how their mind twists things. It is like two people speaking different languages asking for directions! When you detach from it emotionally, you can see it, but there is no way to fix it.
My brother and I cannot put each other in a bad box. We know who the other is underneath it ALL. The reaction to trauma our brains have built is not who we really are at our core. This is what I believe. I don’t really even know how he feels.
I hated this song when I was not sure I was wrong. Now I see my patterns. I know myself better. Now this song motivates me to be the Jennifer my dad intended. Fuck my Jenny! That bitch is dead.
As a person that went through this eye opening process, I was at the point to sink or swim with myself. As harsh as it is, I am sure my family was, too. I cannot blame them for not wanting to deal with it anymore. I didn’t want to either. I have just wanted to die so many, many times. To make the pain stop. But I KNOW I have so much more to live for. Thank you for this song. It is a cold, hard truth. Makes people want to avoid it!
Many of your songs have helped me see patterns and develop an outlook of coping. With hope. Hopefully this hell we are all going through is the catalyst for great things ahead.
I feel bad for sleeping on this band for a long time. The singer seems like a genuine person.
There are 2 sides to every coin and both sides need to be told.
❤
Any updates on Jenny and her mental health and how she is now?
I’d personally like to hear Jenna’s perspective. Not to discount his lived experience, I’m just curious what her side of the coin looks like.
I know I'm a Jenny and I'm trying so hard to get better, but it's hard when you've been sent from doctor to doctor, therapist to psychiatrist, all of them telling you that the next one will be able to help you. Meanwhile all the friends I had are moving on with their lives and leaving me even more lonely. I'm just trying to hold on, because that's all I can do right now.
Now im really able to think about How they'd feel
My brother if they killed me
My boyfriend not my father
How did they get Jonny with only 285 subscribers?
And this video is 7 years old… imagine how many they had at time of upload lol
if you'll get back to me john, i adore your record. the story of parables, the way its paced, the absolute mastery of the effects and instrumentation...
did you ever consider working on an album about fantasy defining the culture of reality? i am a song writer and musician myself, and the way you do things is just amazing. please get back to me! i love your work and hope you and your family get through this hard time of bad decisions and physical/mental traumas so the art can flourish.
I know Jenny and I don't know if she's okay.
On a side note his hair and eyes are beautiful
I was Jenny. Its a choice. I wrestled everyday sometimes Litarally telling myself "sink or swim". Thank God I choses swim.
Chalequito alguien puede ponerle subs? Jajaja tengo una idea de lo que dice pero no es lo mismo raioz.
ruclips.net/video/bePC0LoDr-g/видео.html man his story about his sister made me think of this song.
Shit...I am Jenny
Hey
Everybody dances around the shit that songs about it's too taboo for them to mention talk about or otherwise until you've gone through it you don't fucking know
depression and anxiety arent a joke..people die from it...you might make fun of it..but its not funny..people hurt when they're going thru depression and anxiety.physically and mentally..take care of them..they need you..please
Your sister is a good person. Like I said over at the video I'll be her lighthouse when you are not.
Good people don’t stay stoned.
Jenny was a friend of mine...
I'm Jenny. I understand. I see it from the inside.
I have to wonder why people get depressed like this. Like, what are they depressed about? Just where they are with their life or what? I'm not asking that as a rhetorical question, it's a serious question and I actually don't know. I don't think I suffer from depression so I wouldn't know.
Dan Shaffer well its a mental illness so you get it from being born with it or can develop it through trauma. With some mental illness it doesn't really matter where you are in life you just always or often feel low. I don't like describing how my depression is as an example because everyone's depression affects them differently. You can Google a bit more on it to get a better understanding if you'd like though.
@@starlesssky0126 not only i think its spiritual ..
I love you for this
I'm your sister
Hey, my name is Patrick and I understand Jenny. I'm bipolar and I've been through self mutilation and months if not years of suicidal tendencies and just let your sister know Jonny that hope exists on the other side. like you said- with time comes grace.
hang in thee buddy, reach out. I', hre here fo ryou as one
Chin up, Patrick. You are meant. You matter brother.