Open wounds is way better than weight of fire. The 8% doesn't hit any breakpoints and the debuffs from open wounds can be applied to a whole horde and weaken armored targets for a melee kill.
I run "Just reward" for this build to be able to deal with specials better (also because I'm not so good in chaining headshots). For the griffin foot i run hunter to get 25% extra power to mow down the hordes even better. Ammo sustain is better for your build though.
I run BH with blood for money for lvl 5, open wounds for lvl 10, cruel fortune for lvl 20 and rile the mob for lvl 25. Also I think crit power for BH is superior to any other properties, both on the gun and the charm (not on the melee weapon because sadly it doesn't stack). When you crit you can FEEL it. I only swap to melee (rapier with block cost reduction) when out of ammo, can't reload or if I need to block, otherwise I'm pretty much shooting the entire game. I've had games with 500+ ranged kills and less than 10 melee kills, also depends on your teammates whether or not they use ammo at all (slayer, GK, WP, SotT), use very little (mercenary, FK, IB) or best case scenario, a RV to make sure you never have to be stingy with ammo. I also use cooldown reduction but still use crit chance, on the trinket and my Griffon foots and my melee weapon, any extra crits to add to your ammo and benefit from crit power the better. (I know the crit chance doesn't stack on my ranged but I like activating swift slaying and then swapping to ranged). I like using rile the mob instead of job well done because BH's dps is so insane with this build that you kinda kill everything before they even have a chance to hurt you, and the 10% movement speed, not only for you but the entire squad, helps with avoiding enemies attacks.
I was running this earlier but with open wounds and Job Well done. I think if you play your cards right you don't need salvaged Ammunition with the duckfoots.
I think it depends on team composition and gamemode. I really struggled on cata chaos wastes (so without scrounger) with ammo supplies so i usually pick salvaged ammunition. And because loosing all 30 stacks of damage reduction is so frustrating
Been using this build for awhile now, and it's a ton of fun. However, wouldn't open wounds be a better buff since that extra 20% dmg taken from those that get hit also works for your team? I actually run dmg vs armor and I can usually one or two shot SV on close ranges.
Well, i guess the idea is to oneshot most horde enemies, so the idea is that enemies take 20% more damage AFTER you shoot them. But weight of fire does 8% WHEN you shoot them, letting you 1shot them Also, here's the thing about weight of fire, it's not technically 8% more damage, it's 8% more total power, which is slightly better.
@@hostiletakeover7368 all buffs of this type regardless if they come from a talent like "open wouds" and "make 'em bleed", or an item trait, like hunter, they all apply their buff on the hit that triggers them and they all stack. If you run bounty hunter with open wounds + hunter with 40%crit power, then you just ignore all breakpoints because you are an one shot killing machine as long as you have blessed shots
@@makislazer5118 i agree mostly, ive got 500 hours on bounty hunter. BUT you wanna run power vs armor and chaos. If you really wanna run crit power, you probably wanna have it on your xbow underneath vs armor. Because ive played with crit power. And it only ever does more dmg when stacked with 20% vs armor and 10% vs chaos. Otherwise if you have 40% crit power and 20% vs armor it actually does less.
@@UgandaDN i mean yes he is vaiable but it's def not the best choixe when you have whc, you know bh just does one thing really good but that's kind of it. and also that's just my opinion but he's way too squishy (i'm a tank that's probably why)
Damn I do have to make that still don't I? Haha I'll probably get around to it this month, but its unfortunate because all sienna's careers make pretty lousy bots.
@@WetMagic No hurry! Perhaps you could just wait for Sienna's DLC and make the video then. Also I agree with your last statement, although I find Unchained to be a decent bot.
I really don't understand why people cry about this gun. This weapon gives BH so much more survivability against mixed hordes on legend and Cata and it's a will rounded weapon that synergizes so well with BH's current kit that it's meta. People complain and say "oh well why you're stealing my kill by mowing down hordes and such." While I understand that the Griffonfoot allows for some insane artillery, it's really not a busted weapon. BH is a really bad class at regenerating HP because no melee weapon truly fits his level 5 talents. The weapon doesn't need to be made subtier for you to enjoy the game again whenever you see someone running Griffonfoot. And also the true problem isn't how op the Griffonfoot is but rather how damage doesn't scale well with difficulty in this game. Which leads to situation where weapons overperform in champion and below.
@@scootyang2311 Sure, it's nice for a crossbow special sniping build since you usually reload the passive between the special kills. But for the griffin foot you don't get that much vallue out of it since you usually fire multiple shots into a horde.
Yeah that’s no group build for champion and above. With those guns your teammates will kick you cause of friendly fire while the time. But great for solo
I’ll straight up leave a game if a BH with griffon foot is in the lobby. Who the hell thought it was a good idea to remove Bounty hunters godly special sniping ability, in favour of a horde clear that denies the rest of the team THP while simultaneously shooting teammates in the back?
@@rivenskyallonce I play cata and legend book runs. I will admit when playing on cata, this problem almost entirely disappears as most people playing on that difficulty are pretty decent. It’s the book runs on legend where I come across these players. That difficulty is easy enough for most people to be able to complete a level, without having to really work as a team. It promotes behaviors like circle chasing, running ahead and just all-round overconfidence.
Getting a duckfoot pistol is a fun milestone to achieve in the Warhammer RPG.
TFW you blast your grail knights head off when he goes for crits on a rat orge......
I did this yesterday it was funny asf but it was a nurgling instead or rat ogre 😂😂😂
Open wounds is way better than weight of fire. The 8% doesn't hit any breakpoints and the debuffs from open wounds can be applied to a whole horde and weaken armored targets for a melee kill.
Kick Ass, Take Names and do as much Friendly Fire as possible.
Elf will still somehow do more FF even without moonfire.
I run "Just reward" for this build to be able to deal with specials better (also because I'm not so good in chaining headshots). For the griffin foot i run hunter to get 25% extra power to mow down the hordes even better. Ammo sustain is better for your build though.
i was running that initially but i found myself running out of ammo too often. Might be nice if you have a ranger veteran to drop ammo though
I run BH with blood for money for lvl 5, open wounds for lvl 10, cruel fortune for lvl 20 and rile the mob for lvl 25. Also I think crit power for BH is superior to any other properties, both on the gun and the charm (not on the melee weapon because sadly it doesn't stack). When you crit you can FEEL it. I only swap to melee (rapier with block cost reduction) when out of ammo, can't reload or if I need to block, otherwise I'm pretty much shooting the entire game. I've had games with 500+ ranged kills and less than 10 melee kills, also depends on your teammates whether or not they use ammo at all (slayer, GK, WP, SotT), use very little (mercenary, FK, IB) or best case scenario, a RV to make sure you never have to be stingy with ammo. I also use cooldown reduction but still use crit chance, on the trinket and my Griffon foots and my melee weapon, any extra crits to add to your ammo and benefit from crit power the better. (I know the crit chance doesn't stack on my ranged but I like activating swift slaying and then swapping to ranged). I like using rile the mob instead of job well done because BH's dps is so insane with this build that you kinda kill everything before they even have a chance to hurt you, and the 10% movement speed, not only for you but the entire squad, helps with avoiding enemies attacks.
I love the griffon foot pistols, but if I use them too long and then switch back to my crossbow my aim starts to suck.
Only having to aim in a pack of monsters general direction does teach you some bad habits.
Basically I run this build with but assassin and rapier. Never any problems killing elites with that bad boy.
I'll watch this Sunday's stream !
I was running this earlier but with open wounds and Job Well done. I think if you play your cards right you don't need salvaged Ammunition with the duckfoots.
I think it depends on team composition and gamemode. I really struggled on cata chaos wastes (so without scrounger) with ammo supplies so i usually pick salvaged ammunition. And because loosing all 30 stacks of damage reduction is so frustrating
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Been using this build for awhile now, and it's a ton of fun. However, wouldn't open wounds be a better buff since that extra 20% dmg taken from those that get hit also works for your team? I actually run dmg vs armor and I can usually one or two shot SV on close ranges.
Well, i guess the idea is to oneshot most horde enemies, so the idea is that enemies take 20% more damage AFTER you shoot them.
But weight of fire does 8% WHEN you shoot them, letting you 1shot them
Also, here's the thing about weight of fire, it's not technically 8% more damage, it's 8% more total power, which is slightly better.
@@hostiletakeover7368 from royalewithcheese guides, the 20 percent also applies to the crit hit as well. Not just the damage after the hit
@@jeremytan739 i think you might actually be right about this
@@hostiletakeover7368 all buffs of this type regardless if they come from a talent like "open wouds" and "make 'em bleed", or an item trait, like hunter, they all apply their buff on the hit that triggers them and they all stack. If you run bounty hunter with open wounds + hunter with 40%crit power, then you just ignore all breakpoints because you are an one shot killing machine as long as you have blessed shots
@@makislazer5118 i agree mostly, ive got 500 hours on bounty hunter.
BUT
you wanna run power vs armor and chaos.
If you really wanna run crit power, you probably wanna have it on your xbow underneath vs armor.
Because ive played with crit power. And it only ever does more dmg when stacked with 20% vs armor and 10% vs chaos. Otherwise if you have 40% crit power and 20% vs armor it actually does less.
Brilliant again keeps me playing 1 of the best games ever bud thanks
How do you not have the sanctioned mod downloaded that shows you your ammo on both your melee and ranged?
Double shot doesn't work like that anymore, now only the first shot refunds cooldown, meaning you can't do that silly chain shot combo anymore
oh and btw please put the build in description
I think that shotguns need a slight buff against monsters. Packmasters are too tanky.
i wish bh was more viable in higher diffuculty (like cata 3 and onslaught)
He is more than viable in modded difficulties.
@@UgandaDN i mean yes he is vaiable but it's def not the best choixe when you have whc, you know bh just does one thing really good but that's kind of it. and also that's just my opinion but he's way too squishy (i'm a tank that's probably why)
He's not here to chew bubblegum ?
Not with most of his helmets on :(
Hey man what GPU do you have?
how do i get the stats i want on my weapons to max lvl?
Get red weapons. They automatically have maxed out stats.
@@DoomnDust wow 300 hours and i never knew that thanks man
@@DoomnDust so if i switch the passives in crafting itll auto make em max>?
Yes, on red items the item properties will always be maxed out.
@@DoomnDust thanks man!
everytime a saltzpyre joins my game with griffion foot i instantly kick him.
I know this is completely unrelated to the video, but are you planning on making a Sienna Bot Builds video? I'd be really interested in watching that!
Damn I do have to make that still don't I? Haha I'll probably get around to it this month, but its unfortunate because all sienna's careers make pretty lousy bots.
@@WetMagic No hurry! Perhaps you could just wait for Sienna's DLC and make the video then.
Also I agree with your last statement, although I find Unchained to be a decent bot.
I really don't understand why people cry about this gun. This weapon gives BH so much more survivability against mixed hordes on legend and Cata and it's a will rounded weapon that synergizes so well with BH's current kit that it's meta.
People complain and say "oh well why you're stealing my kill by mowing down hordes and such."
While I understand that the Griffonfoot allows for some insane artillery, it's really not a busted weapon. BH is a really bad class at regenerating HP because no melee weapon truly fits his level 5 talents.
The weapon doesn't need to be made subtier for you to enjoy the game again whenever you see someone running Griffonfoot.
And also the true problem isn't how op the Griffonfoot is but rather how damage doesn't scale well with difficulty in this game. Which leads to situation where weapons overperform in champion and below.
I thought crit power would be great on bh...
Crit power is infamously bad. Both Wetmagic and JTClive have videos on why.
crit power can hit some breakpoints on legend to be fair, but it fails to be as beneficial on cata sadly.
@@buttnuts2599 Bh is different from the rest since he have guarateed crit hit, crit power would be a reliable buff for him.
@@scootyang2311 ruclips.net/video/YnHkBg92CVU/видео.html just watch it good info and supports wet:)
@@scootyang2311 Sure, it's nice for a crossbow special sniping build since you usually reload the passive between the special kills. But for the griffin foot you don't get that much vallue out of it since you usually fire multiple shots into a horde.
Yeah that’s no group build for champion and above. With those guns your teammates will kick you cause of friendly fire while the time. But great for solo
Its fun 👌
I’ll straight up leave a game if a BH with griffon foot is in the lobby.
Who the hell thought it was a good idea to remove Bounty hunters godly special sniping ability, in favour of a horde clear that denies the rest of the team THP while simultaneously shooting teammates in the back?
What difficulty do you play on?
I do agree ff is a huge problem in this game, all thanks to green circles chasers.
@@rivenskyallonce I play cata and legend book runs. I will admit when playing on cata, this problem almost entirely disappears as most people playing on that difficulty are pretty decent.
It’s the book runs on legend where I come across these players. That difficulty is easy enough for most people to be able to complete a level, without having to really work as a team. It promotes behaviors like circle chasing, running ahead and just all-round overconfidence.