The Best Ways to Voice High Woodwinds? (and Why Should You Use Woodwinds?)

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  • Опубликовано: 5 ноя 2019
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    In this one we look at how to voice your melodies and chords for the High Woods, Piccolo, Flutes, Oboes, Clarinets.. and explore the many amazing textures and colours available!
    LOGIC FILE: - we.tl/t-X6qQILdsxa
    #oneorchestra
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  • @deedub760
    @deedub760 3 года назад +10

    I love how you didn't waste any time addressing the topic. You got right into it. Thank you. Great information, too.

  • @btidelius7344
    @btidelius7344 4 года назад +14

    Paul, this is I would say one of the most clear, inspiring and useful series on the tube right now. We all know the marketing side of a business like Spitfire, and we realise that this is a part of all that is needed to keep thing working for you and your team. But the way you do it is a treat, a win-win that really shows your commitment and love for music. We are many thats is looking forward to the next episode. Many thanks, MOMA, Stockholm Sweden.

  • @peekpen
    @peekpen 2 года назад

    Thank you for inviting us in on your process with cinematic woodwinds.

  • @waynebacer6235
    @waynebacer6235 4 года назад +11

    This video series is great Paul, keep em coming.

  • @sheldonmercury9252
    @sheldonmercury9252 3 года назад +3

    Very useful. I have looking for exactly this. Was writing a piece and got stuck on the woodwind section because I couldn't get it to sound quite right. Now I know how to approach the problem. Thank you very much Paul. For this and everything else that you all do at spitfire

  • @Mrjononotbono
    @Mrjononotbono 4 года назад

    Absolutely love these videos you do Paul. Thank you.

  • @davidandronicomusic
    @davidandronicomusic 4 года назад +1

    This is SO great! Thank you Paul!

  • @dafingaz
    @dafingaz 4 года назад

    Another great installment!

  • @OliKember
    @OliKember 4 года назад

    Loved listening to this audition process. Many thanks for doing this!

  • @nedfo72
    @nedfo72 4 года назад +2

    This is awesome, Paul! Thank you for including the project session. I love writing for woodwinds. Such important "spices" for the orchestra
    I'm loving this whole #oneorchestra thing

  • @secretreleases
    @secretreleases 4 года назад

    Thank you for that kind of high quality content you keep providing!

  • @ridgero
    @ridgero 4 года назад +1

    This series is an absolute gem, please keep that up. I appreciate your effort very much Paul, thumps up!!!

  • @yvanroustan4426
    @yvanroustan4426 4 года назад

    These videos series are great Paul ! more please !

  • @marcolyott
    @marcolyott 4 года назад

    Paul ,this is brilliant! Thank you so much and looking forward to the next video in this series, most excellent.

  • @jonasdenolf4831
    @jonasdenolf4831 4 года назад

    Thanks for this tutorial! i think these tutorials are great for every composer, thank you so much.
    Keep making these!!

  • @Carsons12
    @Carsons12 4 года назад

    Really love these type of tutorial videos which related to orchestration as well as your Basic Instinct video.

  • @samshrimpton407
    @samshrimpton407 4 года назад

    Knew I had an upcoming woodwind section to write, so I've been saving this. Awesome video Paul! Thanks for making these. Really getting a lot out of this voicing series!

  • @matiassantana4596
    @matiassantana4596 4 года назад +2

    Man, you are amazing!
    Thanks for these videos.

  • @BillyPalmerMusic
    @BillyPalmerMusic 4 года назад

    I've been making an effort to polish my woodwind writing and this was super helpful!

  • @XeNoS_Music
    @XeNoS_Music 4 года назад

    Incredible video thank You Paul ! ,...Im looking forward for more, especially brass :)

  • @JayKay0245
    @JayKay0245 4 года назад

    Really informative Paul, thanks

  • @wakitakiwakitaki
    @wakitakiwakitaki 4 года назад

    Thanks, Paul!

  • @radcliffechris
    @radcliffechris 4 года назад +2

    Paul! This was extremely helpful for me. Definitely speaking a musical language I can understand. :)

  • @AlistairMelville
    @AlistairMelville 4 года назад

    Paul, very much appreciate the Logic File. This is so handy for all of us who are new to this. I guess the Brass and Percussion will be next? I really do feel that this is what #ONEORCHESTRA is all about. Many thanks.

  • @carlstephenkoto619
    @carlstephenkoto619 4 года назад

    I need to spend some serious time listening to all these combinations. But what a great lecture! I need to go back and do the "strings" lecture soon. Thanks a million Paul!

  • @chrismeyers7487
    @chrismeyers7487 4 года назад

    Ah! Thank you, Paul!!!!

  • @redlester
    @redlester 4 года назад

    Brilliant stuff Paul, really useful.
    It’s really interesting when you take it up the octave! (Sorry, couldn’t resist 😉 )

  • @jammusique
    @jammusique 4 года назад +1

    Interesting Paul ! That great that you think about these things, and that you share this here. I can tell you're passionate about this, so take a look at The Rite of Spring (Stravinsky), the opening of the 2nd part (rehersal number 79) Where he's got 2 clarinets above 3 flutes (all separate lines) and below the flutes, a piccolo clarinet (yes, you read correctly ;) It's a beautiful effect ! Cheers

  • @WillWilson
    @WillWilson 4 года назад

    I always struggle with Woods! This is great thanks. Looking forward to the brass ;) PS the BBCSO Oboe is beautiful!

  • @jimsanger
    @jimsanger 4 года назад +1

    Really useful, woodwinds get so underused compared to strings. I recently did a film with the British Drama Toolkit woods and the director loved the mood it created.

  • @BluemountScore
    @BluemountScore 4 года назад

    The BBCSO woodwinds are great. My favorite section of the library.

  • @klavierunterricht-bergstra2187
    @klavierunterricht-bergstra2187 3 года назад

    great content

  • @orrinbynum5978
    @orrinbynum5978 3 года назад

    Mr. Thomson this video was very helpful to me as well. I really enjoyed watching you. Can you please make a Video on how to voice the French horns, trumpets, and the rest of the lower end woodwinds section please. Thank you so much. I look forward to your next video.

  • @mybiggrin
    @mybiggrin 3 года назад

    This melody is very Stravinsky. Thank you for the tips and insights.

  • @simonturner1
    @simonturner1 4 года назад +4

    Ok, that was interesting.

  • @colinwight6995
    @colinwight6995 3 года назад

    Very interesting, helpful, informative & very useful - thanks Paul! Will you be doing a session on voicing low woodwinds?

  • @RenevolutionAccount
    @RenevolutionAccount 3 года назад

    great Video, thank you
    Hello Paul, I am a big fan of your videos. It would be great if you made a video about : The Best Ways to Voice BRASS? (and what IS BRASS voicing?)

  • @pjdahmen
    @pjdahmen 4 года назад +1

    Great tutorial

  • @benjaminduk5764
    @benjaminduk5764 4 года назад +17

    Paul would you be able to get someone at Spitfire to convert your Logic project to a Cubase project so that us Cubase users can also benefit from studying your files please :D

    • @mirzaaljic
      @mirzaaljic 4 года назад +7

      I use Cubase and this would be awesome. But what I'm doing instead, I am following the video and then recreating the project along the way and slightly tweaking it for my own purpose. I find that to be more engaging and actually feels like live practice.

  • @keiththeodosiou
    @keiththeodosiou 4 года назад

    Thanks Paul, very informative indeed. So many combinations is mind boggling :)

  • @paradis3r3gain3d
    @paradis3r3gain3d 4 года назад +4

    Very interesting and useful demonstration, thank you. However, as a clarinet player, I would just say that these samples are a very long way from reproducing how a clarinetist would approach blending with the rest of the woodwind section or indeed the orchestra as a whole. The clarinet is one of the hardest instruments to sample convincingly simply because there are so many different possible colours (not merely dynamics and articulations) within a given note and as a player you're continuously bending the sound to fit the musical context. (Obviously every player does this to some degree but the options for the clarinet are vastly more extreme.) So while all the advice here is super-useful in terms of scoring for samples, if you assume that this accurately reproduces what the clarinet section can do (and how it can blend), you're missing out on a lot of colour possibilities. (PS. the chalumeau range is not the area you describe - you're talking about the throat notes and the chalumeau is everything below that. Also the clarion range is very, very different from the chalumeau range and it's really important to understand the difference in colour and power. Again samples never seem to be able to convey that very significant difference, for reasons I have never understood.)

    • @PaulThomsonMusic
      @PaulThomsonMusic  3 года назад +2

      Thanks Simon - blimey that’s a bit of a clanger re the ranges.. I’ve played the clarinet since I was 10! Totally agree - samples will only ever be an imitation of the beauty of a fine player. Although - I’d challenge you and say the Oboe is harder to sample!!

    • @paradis3r3gain3d
      @paradis3r3gain3d 3 года назад +5

      @@PaulThomsonMusic I've done a lot of RUclips tutorials and I wish my worst clanger was as mild as that! Thank you so much for everything that you guys do - the products are inspirational in themselves but the videos take it to the next level. Funny you should say that about the oboe though - as someone who doesn't play the oboe it's always struck me as an instrument that samples really well ... unlike the clarinet which frequently sounds like either an oboe (how is that possible?) or a flute, but never really much like a clarinet. Perhaps the answer is that you're never going to love the sampled sound of an instrument that you have played for a long time.

  • @PeteCalandra
    @PeteCalandra 4 года назад

    Great vid Paul. I also learned a cool new word today: completist ☺️😊

    • @nowomannotie
      @nowomannotie 4 года назад +1

      It's actually spelt completest

    • @PeteCalandra
      @PeteCalandra 4 года назад +1

      W W thank you. I should have googled the spelling..

    • @nowomannotie
      @nowomannotie 4 года назад

      @@PeteCalandra I just listened again and I have changed my mind. You are right I think , completist as in obsessive.

    • @PeteCalandra
      @PeteCalandra 4 года назад

      @@nowomannotie It's good to know both... :)

  • @natemurphy7272
    @natemurphy7272 3 года назад +1

    thats interesting

  • @MePeterNicholls
    @MePeterNicholls 4 года назад

    9:00 Ennio Morricone ;)

  • @OliKember
    @OliKember 4 года назад

    As per your frustrations with the MIDI ending up randomly named as you drag them around, you can quickly rename the MIDI block based on the track they're sitting on. Shit Alt N in Logic. Also, if you hit Shift Alt C the MIDI blocks change colour to the track colour they're sat on. Very handy stuff and part of my muscle memory now.

    • @AdrianVeale
      @AdrianVeale 4 года назад +1

      Oliver Kember That’s such a useful tip! Thanks Oliver.

    • @OliKember
      @OliKember 4 года назад

      @@AdrianVeale Pleasure! Love finding out a new tip too. :)

  • @Nicolas-et8hf
    @Nicolas-et8hf 4 года назад

    Will you do a brass video?

  • @MePeterNicholls
    @MePeterNicholls 4 года назад +1

    “A toir” please 😝😜

  • @renatozanardo9648
    @renatozanardo9648 4 года назад

    Hi Paul, I have existentials doubt about a composition I'm still doing. How can I make you listen it?

  • @carlstephenkoto619
    @carlstephenkoto619 4 года назад

    I exported the Logic midi regions to midi tracks. You should be able to just drag the 10 tracks into your daw (worked in Reaper 5) and use whatever libraries you have (I used Spitfire Studio WW since I don't have BBC yet). If you want to move the tracks around like Paul did, you'll need to split the tracks into regions again.
    drive.google.com/drive/folders/1hJjA34rpkiTkL1AutKIeJvMhw7HgxJ6j?usp=sharing

  • @moviekidtechlife
    @moviekidtechlife 4 года назад

    Paul please let us know where you got the mouse wrist support things from ... they look great

    • @synkrotron
      @synkrotron 4 года назад +1

      www.brownmed.com/product/imak-ergo/wrist-cushion-for-mouse/

    • @moviekidtechlife
      @moviekidtechlife 4 года назад

      Legend I hope they ship to the uk though !

    • @synkrotron
      @synkrotron 4 года назад

      @@moviekidtechlife would probably cost a bit...
      www.brownmed.com/faq/

  • @charlesgaskell5899
    @charlesgaskell5899 4 года назад

    Very interesting! There was at least one combination (oboes at the top of their range, flutes at the bottom of their range, in octaves) where I disagreed with your assessment and really liked the sound. But I guess different people have differing tastes.
    You describe the clarinet as the "cello" of the woodwind section, but shouldn't that honour really belong to the bass clarinet (with whom it shares an almost identical range)? I would have the clarinet more as a viola instrument...
    And now I must watch the video again, I'm interested to see how many times you say "interesting"...

    • @AGVersace100
      @AGVersace100 4 года назад

      the sound might be good, the point though is that flutes don't have much power down on the bottom of the range while oboes do. It is difficult to make the two sound even without the oboes overpowering the flutes.

  • @whaleguy
    @whaleguy 4 года назад +1

    Hi Paul, could you provide the midi files for download so that those of us who use other sample libraries can listen and follow along :)

    • @kristoffersundberg123
      @kristoffersundberg123 4 года назад

      +1, but also for those of us who use the same sample library but a different DAW (or you could just dump silly Logic and come join us cool Reaper kids! ;) ).

    • @carlstephenkoto619
      @carlstephenkoto619 4 года назад

      I linked the files in my post above.

    • @whaleguy
      @whaleguy 4 года назад

      @@carlstephenkoto619 YT marks any posts with links as spam. Your post isn't visible. Please post it again but put spaces in between so that YT doesn't mark it.

  • @alainthiry3965
    @alainthiry3965 4 года назад

    thank you. just at 30min too confusing for me who play what notes...

  • @N-JKoordt
    @N-JKoordt 4 года назад

    Very nice - more thorough than Adler.

    • @nicholas72611
      @nicholas72611 3 года назад

      Good video but I disagree so much

  • @quatricise
    @quatricise 4 года назад

    I'm having a hard time focusing on what's happening when you keep switching between the camera and DAW. I think it would be better to just keep the video focused on the screen the whole time and occasionally view the keyboard as you're playing.

  • @agorgedslug
    @agorgedslug 4 года назад

    This is great information Paul. I'm sure you're aware yourself that your choice of adjectives is very limited and starts to sound rather forced. I.e. "Ok that sound was INTERESTING, now while we've STILL GOT THAT SOUND IN OUR MIND'S EYE, etc. As you start to become more comfortable with the series I'm sure this will go away :-D

  • @novanova1644
    @novanova1644 4 года назад

    The sounds are very UNATURAL, even tacky. The real wood instruments are much warmer and breathy...