The begs never flew for free. It was always calculated in the price of a ticket. This new feee is an additional cost forced on the traveler just because they can.
I remember baggage handlers in Miami DIRECTLY ASKING FOR TIPS for putting peoples bags on the conveyor. In Philadelphia they made it more difficult for passengers to handle their baggage by getting rid of baggage carts. I asked an airline employee where the baggage carts were, and he asked me, "Baggage carts?" Like he didn't know what I was talking about. The airlines cause problems so that they can charge more money. If fuel costs more, they charge more for tickets. Not even a little sympathy from me. This is a USA-specific problem. I avoid US carriers whenever I can.
Of course they are trying to maximise revenue. Ryanair started charging people for luggage to change peoples behaviour (train them not to being the kitchen sink with them), this resulted in savvy travellers packing light and only bringing hand luggage. When this became a problem (too many carry on) they limited to first 90pl people on board (you could pay for priority), they would then take the excess at the gate and bring down to plane, saving expense of using baggage handling. This affected turnaround times, so now, you get your 10kg carry included, but you have to check it in (only small bag that fits under seat in front allowed). You have to pay to carry on your 10kg case. Much faster loading passengers.
Airlines prefer all inclusive no bag fee that why the model of the past, in part they get to charge more in total. Example first class bags, food, drinks all included in the price. They are trying to max revenue and that requires fuller planes so lower fare as consumers are often fools on prices has increased number of flyers on their airline.
That is why you shouldn't fly Frontier or Spirit. Do not be fooled by that small price tag for the actual flight. You will be paying for a carry on, anything bigger than a small purse or fanny pack.
When you fly Spirit or Frontier, they let you bring an item you can fit under the seat in front of you. I have a small gym duffel bag I use. I can fit up to a week worth of clothes in there.
@@yyyid9518 if you have to fly with your baby, you effectively don't get a bag because you'll have to choose between bring the baby bag or your stuff and you end up paying extra now. Back when the carryon size was just a it bigger, I would bring a bag that had room for me and baby 👶 It was way worse than flights in previous years and I just have 1 baby ✋💀😭
i can attest to the transferring of bags. when i worked at FLL for the best airline in the world (Spirit, lol) i was i charge of transferring bags tail to tail. so, i would have about 4 carts and have my own system of which flights are transferring from a flight. i knew that a particular transferring flight would be heavier than the rest and that would usually fill up one cart. i’d also have to make sure i had the bags for the flight that was leaving the soonest. it was a tad stressful, but i can honestly say, i never got bags late to their corresponding destinations. i find it sad that they pay them so poorly. they’re the heart of the whole operation.
Greetings from South Texas.. Man! we are so far far away! I have always been interested in New Zealand, I don't like big cities with many people, I have the impression there is a lot of land between people over there, I like watching videos about your island, you are very lucky, if we have a zombie apocalypse, I think you guys will be the only ones to survive!! : ) by the way I live about 70 miles from SPACE X Boca Chica Tx, so you have an idea how is this area...
Odd that airlines have not standardized bags. A standard bag might fly for no charge, whereas an odd sized bag would get a charge. A bag designed to experience fewer jams or with a built in barcode might help reduce the number of lost pieces of luggage.
I am very confident in saying that airlines will NOT change the baggage policy. They have gotten comfortable with the added revenue from checked luggage. Anything and Everything that is checked WILL BE charged.
I flew out of San Jose to Chicago with Virgin and I paid $50 for the one bag. I didn’t know I had to pay a bad fee. I could have flown with Southwest for a little cheaper if I’d known. I stopped flying domestic because of that bag fee. I’ve only flown internationally since then where two bags are always included in the price of the ticket. It’s my way of protesting bag fees.
Airlines charge so much nowadays, that I use one of the suitcase shipping services. I don't have to carry it at all and it is insured, shows up at the hotel before I arrive.
To save money and reduce stress when flying, buy your plane ticket on a Tuesday, avoid peak travel days, chose a direct flight, and travel light by sticking to a carry-on bag. If you're less likely to need the lavatory and you don't want to be bothered, opt for the window seat.
Not a junk fee. It started after 9/11 as a recovery fee for the loses suffered after the event. And then became permanent because companies love to exploit people.
Honestly, it makes sense for airlines to charge for carryons, but NOT checked bags (at least the 1st one). If I’m southwest, I’d implement a change to charge for Carryons and keep checked bags free, that way boarding and deplaning can be much more quicker.
The bag fee was supposed to be temporary.....the airlines have no real competition....I bet if we open our domestic gates to Emirates, Cathy Pacific, or Lufthansa all of a sudden those fees would disappear...
I legit did this to save 40 bucks in baggage fees. When I was in Vegas, I bought stuff, clothes, etc, and before I flew back to my city, I stepped into a packaging store and ship the stuff back to my house via UPS. It was cheaper to ship it than to pay for baggage fees
As someone who worked at Heathrow for 10.5 years, I know what is talked about the ant hill. Passengers don't really appreciate what is involved in getting them and their luggage to there destination. Christmas pressure one year, I personally loaded a Uld unit (aircraft bin), with 4 tons of post. It was going on a jumbo flight to New York. The driver of the truck couldn't believe how much the suspension dropped when the Uld left the high lift.
As someone who works in baggage for the featured airline, I can only say it's not for the weak. Also ppl will literally bring everything on a plane. They will bring bags weighing literally over 100 lbs & I'm not joking
baggage fees will only go away if airlines take a hit to their main revenue stream because customers hate baggage fees. however, because of the monopoly airlines hold over certain routes, the consumer is just SOL.
@@jobunaga4178 No. This is a new thing that started after 9/11. Airlines started a temporary charge for baggage to recover the loses from the attack. Before that, there was almost no limit to how much you could check in. We are seeing the same now, with business charging for things that were included before the pandemic. To ”recover”, but all these new charges will become permanent.
@@Dangic23 Baggage fees did start as a way to recoup financial loss after 9/11, but then with soaring fuel prices is what kept bag fees to stay. It's really not absurd. The more a plane weight, the more fuel it burns. If you travel light, you don't have to pay for that extra fuel burn. If you chose to travel with more, you pay for it. Very sinple. and not greedy at all.
I've wondered why airlines haven't learned from the maritime cargo industry? When cargo ships started using standard containers, the entire industry became so mush more effective and efficient. The airlines should standardize suitcases and carry-ons. One small and one big, and all the same. No extra pockets, expanders, or things dangling off the sides. Now of course people are still going to travel with golf clubs, surf boards, bicyles, etc. but those will be handled as oversized and charged accordingly. At least this way we know that all carry-ons will fit rather than watch some try to cram what should have been a checked bag into an overhead compartment.
**ALWAYS** take a picture of your checked bags, it will save you if a bag is lost or sig delayed. Also, I think the airlines should not impose a flat bag fee, but should reflect whether full fare tickets are bought v. heavily discounted.
It’s not cost saving. They are making you uncomfortable by charging for something that was already included before. Is like saying that you are ok with the airline charging for the seatbelt, because you are bringing your own seatbelt and “outsmarted “ them. 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Dangic23 it is definitely cost saving and its not uncomfortable, way more uncomfortable to be carrying a check bag around... I only pay for what I need. I can fit everything in a personal item & carry on so I dont need to check a luggage.
That delta employee is lying..the average narrow body aircraft hold about 150 seats.. on average every passenger will have 1.5 bags.. you can fit almost every passengers bag in the forward or aft hold. I worked for several regional carriers back in the 1990's and we always got every bag on the plane .. and theses planes seats for at least most 50 people .. what a joke ..
The solution is simple. Airlines should allow passengers to check at least one bag for free, but charge them for carry-on luggage (except for a purse or small backpack, etc). That would improve efficiency, speed, and the overall experience.
I travel light. Hand bag and carry on. If it dont fit then it doesn't come. Simple. Saves time ⏲️ and any possibility of misplaced luggage in the event of connecting flights
In the 80s it was long lines at the check in counter with no bag fee's and you had your free seat assignment. Now in the 2020s its no check in counter all computer check in and a fee for everything.
@@virginiakingsford9470 😂 they all act like “oh i will use this and that”, but ended up not using most of the things they packed. They just ended up as dead weight in the suitcase.
This video changed my mind about bag fees. I used to think the airlines are greedy but they showcased Delta's baggage operations and what the baggage operations team was doing. They are leveraging some efficient technology. Im all for the bag fees. PAY THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THEMSELVES IN DANGER TO TRANSFER OUR BAGS! Iwill be more patient when waiting for my checked bags because they are doing the lords work.
It's Free on Asian airlines, with top-notch services & quality control. Staff handle the baggage with care mostly, no theft, less lost bags than US. Its so much better than US baggage operations yet is FREE!
They are being greedy. All that PROFIT does not go into paying employees better. Thats why Delta strikes more frequently and longer than any other airline. Airlines are constantly looking for another way to squeeze more money out of us. Prime example is their new class for tickets. This is what Late Stage Capaitalism looks like.
We pay this much for checked bags but as soon as we receive our bags in the carousel baggage claims. Our bags are either have zipper broken, the wheels came off, cracked hard case luggage, etc. Airports should train their staff NOT to throw bags around.
Why does CNBC spend so much airtime doing 'man on the street' interviews? Do these random people have anymore insight into a topic than I do just because you stick a microphone in their face? Anecdotes are not news.
I wish they start charging the bathroom also, or maybe include in a package like Wifi + bathroom + luggage = $200. I think it’s doable and customers will appreciate in the long run (because they choose to run instead of flying).
I flew Delta to Australia, and they wanted $100 for my second bag. When I found I could carry on the bag, they kept the $100 even though I didn't check it in. At least I now have more understanding and sympathy for all the workers behind the scene that handle the bags.
You'd be amazed how many people overpack for short trips. Just properly packing a bag could change your checked bag to a carry on (obviously without the full sized liquids). I think a better way to do it would be to weigh checked bags and charged you based on weight (capped out at $25) so you might only have to pay $15 dollars for example for the weight. If you can afford to pay for the plane ticket and often transportation to the airport usually a checked bag fee is pretty minimal.
Save money following these simple rules and don't check bags: 1. Pack bare essentials only. 2. If needed, ship some stuff to yourself ahead of time. I've saved a lot of money following those simple rules.
Bag fee isn’t junk fee is called people are so cheap forcing airlines to separate ticket prices into different chunks. If you add everything together its the whole ticket price, in the past they don’t charge baggage fees is because those fees were all included in the ticket price you paid thats why flight in the past actually cost a lot more than now (inflation adjusted price), now the price is just all unbundled.
Yeah I don’t think so. The price of a flight between NYC and ATL is almost the same on Delta and Southwest. However, when you add baggage and select the option that allows a carry-on, the ticket price increases by almost $100 on Delta. Prices are not cheaper today, baggage fees were a “temporary” fee put in place after 9/11 due to the downturn, and pure greed is what has kept them around 2 decades later.
Kind of like the streaming services. We used to pay one cable bill for hundreds of channels, not people like to pay for separate services. It was probably cheaper the old way.
@@Clipper1094 price is cheap today, than it was in the 1960 1970 1980 1990. You think around trip NYC to ATL is expensive now? LOL. go check the inflation adjusted prices back then! In 1970 nyc to london on average cost 550 that is $5350 in todays money. Today same flight on average cost less than $1200.
I’m very happy that by not giving airlines $30 for something that once was free and now decided to charge for, potentially is costing them three or four times more in lost revenue and delay compensation. I’d keep bringing carry on baggage filled to the brim and putting it on the compartment as slow as possible.
The estimated total pay for a Operations Manager at Delta Air Lines is $131,895 per year.Feb 20, 2023 Pay them good and hopefully 110% employee performance circle s back to Delta.
Airlines make the least money from selling seats compared to bag fees and the very very profitable frequent flyer plans. Freq fler plans can be worth more than the airline division.
Those bag fees are why I always carry on all day and if I need to check my bag at the gate, then I make sure I can check it for free. I pay nothing extra if I want to carry my bag. Also, as a previous Ramp agent, one thing that the airlines don’t do is have a commission for every bag that is checked for both their ticketing agents checking peoples bags and for the ramp agents handling their bags.
Many airlines are getting rid of carry on too on their cheapest fares. So when you “upgrade” to the regular fare, you are paying more than $50 to get the privilege of bringing a carry on and choosing your middle seats in the back row that are left to be picked.
Amazes me how baggage theft isn’t more popular. All you need to do it walk into any airport and the baggage claims are after security so you can just walk in and out with them
There’s plenty of ticket options that still include a checked bag. If y’all keep booking the cheapest ticket, don’t expect much. If you pay for a first class, you get 2 free (included) bags.
It wasn't that long ago that a worker checked your ticket vs. your luggage when you left the baggage claim area. Nowadays, just anyone off the street can grab a bag and walk away. What happened?
Here's something you can do: pay the baggage fee on the outbound flight, then send your bags home by UPS ground service - after all, you have the rest of your wardrobe waiting at home. A buddy saved about 50 bucks doing this.
I mean, as somebody who does the excat job they are talko g about, in some respects the fees are a good thing from my view. It is a incentive to properly planning your packing. Central and South american, as well as African flight are notorious for having huge bag loads on the narrowbodies and heavy bag loads on the widebodies. And these bags are not properly packed, falling apart, round little balls.... everything but a rectangular bag that has a even weight distribution. I have had 1 bag rip as i picked it up, and it was full of oatmeal. Like 15 gallon bags filled with steel cut oats. Its frankly silly what people put in these bags. And sure we constantly try not to lose track of or misload anything. And while the raw number of missed bags may be really high, if I am getting 99% of the bags on board thats really good. If your car is 99% full of gas, of your phone is 99% charged that pretty good right?
US service in hospitality has become one of the worst in the world. Extra charges everywhere when flying, idiotic "resort" and other fees for hotels, endless tipping.
We flew on Alaska from SEA to MSY on Friday. We paid a $100 overweight fee on our one piece of luggage, it came out on the carousel at MSY torn up and missing a wheel. We had to shop for 2 carryon suitcases to evenly divide what was in our suitcase with a receipt to provide to Alaska in hopes of compensation on top of waiving the $100 overweight fee they charged us at SEA.
Nationalized highspeed rail. No need to worry about bag fees or getting separated from your bags while getting to where you need to get fast. Bonus, no TSA.
With America being such a large country I'm not sure I'd want to sit on a train for a day or two crossing the country. I believe in regional high speed rail to connect larger cities but cross country would not be an ideal way to travel.
@@Truth-of-the-matter Rail can't replace all air travel and not all luggage is from cross country flights. The average flight distance is ~500mi which is perfect for HSR.
These costs and the sheer annoyance of getting to a flight is the reason I haven't flown since 2005. If I can't get there on the ground I simply don't go, with apologies to those I have been unable to attend... because flying has become more of a nightmare than convenience. Case in point: I was just coming into Atlanta when that idiot ran down the up escalator when the airport was under extreme security (2002). Ended up shutting down the airport for like... 4+ hours> Another incident was when I got my bag I found it was no longer neatly packed but crammed and poorly secured. When I got home I noticed that a few of the clothing items were not mine. One of them had a small wallet, the kind a tourist might carry with as little as possible but it did have someone's driver license in it. Took me couple weeks, back then, to track them down and make direct contact rather than going through the airline. They were delighted to get their license back after almost a month.
They shouldn’t charge. Never get charged in Europe, Asia or Australia. In Australia not only do they not charge but they still provide full food service with alcohol on afternoons. That’s full service.
why are US based airlines making you pay for carry ons???? I flew frontier from NYC to Orlando i was only allowed a personal item and my friend is flying united from NYC to LAX and she's not able to bring a bag larger than a piece of paper on board that's disgusting imo
1:54 Video shows misleading statistical analysis imo Here's just and example from looking online from the US Department of Transportation 2018 Delayed bags: Delayed less than 12 hours: 20.5 million Delayed between 12 and 24 hours: 2.7 million Delayed more than 24 hours: 0.2 million Damaged bags: Minor damage: 1.8 million Major damage: 0.3 million Lost bags: Lost, later found and delivered to owner: 0.6 million Lost, never found: 0.4 million Stolen bags: Stolen from checked baggage: 12,400 Stolen from other locations, including gates, baggage claim, etc.: 5,000 ···································· 2019: Delayed bags: Delayed less than 12 hours: 21.7 million Delayed between 12 and 24 hours: 2.3 million Delayed more than 24 hours: 0.1 million Damaged bags: Minor damage: 2.4 million Major damage: 0.4 million Lost bags: Lost, later found and delivered to owner: 0.5 million Lost, never found: 0.4 million Stolen bags: Stolen from checked baggage: 9,400 Stolen from other locations, including gates, baggage claim, etc.: 4,500
Even worse. Usually you have a cabin bag. A Spanish airline now only include a "personal item" that has to fit under the seat. And they really check the size before you board. .
One checked bag should be part of the lowest fare ticket on the plane for international flight. They are going to nickle and dime everything to keep YoY profit increase.
My view is the airlines should charge a standard price for a ticket as it once was. If that means raising fares then so be it. There is no excuse for this buy a ticket, then pay added charges for the one bag you check in, then you pay added charges for the seat you select. It's gotten to the point if you find a round trip fare for $350, then add in seats and your luggage. That damn ticket is approaching or has hit $500. Otherwise you have to fly Southwest whenever you fly. You pay the roundtrip fare and your done with it unless you have more than 2 bags. Truthfully it wouldn't bother me anymore if the airlines all started going out of business, since its become a total misery to fly anymore at least within the USA.
While it isn't a new thing to charge for checked baggage, US airline companies are the ones to take the practice to the extreme. Take for instance a flight from JFK to LAX is around about 600+ on average one way and takes about 5.5 hours to fly there, depending on traffic. Take the same distance trip in Australia, Brisbane to Perth, which is almost the same distance, cost almost 150US less and doesn't charge for checked baggage. Now I can add the fact that flying isn't exactly fun in the US and the way people are treated in US airports is a travesty but that is going outside the focus of this subject. Consider the fact that checked baggage comes just under revenue, in the profit and loss statement that is, no one can tell how much they actually make but as the numbers show, it will keep going up as these corporations want. To put it into perspective, US airlines are consistently rated lower in almost every aspect of their service with respect to their pricing. Also, US airlines are not known for treating your luggage very well, and AA is one of the worst while earning 1.2US billion in revenue just for baggage handling. That is all I wanted to say.
My new luggage got destroyed once. The other time the lock was destroyed and it was wrapped up by plastic. I no longer have faith in American airline luggage handlers.
This short helps me have more empathy for the people working in the luggage department and for airport staff overall.
My uncle was a luggage handler in NYC. Definitely a physically demanding job with unpredictable weather.
This is not a short genius
@@walkingwithsandels5728 you're annoying lol
A tough job to get right. Kudos to these workers
That Pay and extra money is justified
Yet they managed to do the same job for 60- 70 years without all these "technology improvements" and without baggage fees. 100% scam.
Where the lost bags go for auction so can buy them
The begs never flew for free. It was always calculated in the price of a ticket. This new feee is an additional cost forced on the traveler just because they can.
I remember baggage handlers in Miami DIRECTLY ASKING FOR TIPS for putting peoples bags on the conveyor. In Philadelphia they made it more difficult for passengers to handle their baggage by getting rid of baggage carts. I asked an airline employee where the baggage carts were, and he asked me, "Baggage carts?" Like he didn't know what I was talking about. The airlines cause problems so that they can charge more money. If fuel costs more, they charge more for tickets. Not even a little sympathy from me. This is a USA-specific problem. I avoid US carriers whenever I can.
LMFAO
Although this could have been summed up in 5 minutes. Airlines were just seeking another revenue stream. It was cool to see the operations.
Of course they are trying to maximise revenue.
Ryanair started charging people for luggage to change peoples behaviour (train them not to being the kitchen sink with them), this resulted in savvy travellers packing light and only bringing hand luggage. When this became a problem (too many carry on) they limited to first 90pl people on board (you could pay for priority), they would then take the excess at the gate and bring down to plane, saving expense of using baggage handling.
This affected turnaround times, so now, you get your 10kg carry included, but you have to check it in (only small bag that fits under seat in front allowed). You have to pay to carry on your 10kg case. Much faster loading passengers.
Customer demand for ever lower fares. Going to a add on cost system allowed lower fares.
Airlines prefer all inclusive no bag fee that why the model of the past, in part they get to charge more in total. Example first class bags, food, drinks all included in the price.
They are trying to max revenue and that requires fuller planes so lower fare as consumers are often fools on prices has increased number of flyers on their airline.
😂😂
I dont mind being charged to bring a checked in bag, what I DO mind is that I have to pay for a carry on . Like, as if you could take nothing ✋👀
That is why you shouldn't fly Frontier or Spirit. Do not be fooled by that small price tag for the actual flight. You will be paying for a carry on, anything bigger than a small purse or fanny pack.
And they all charge for carry on they just tag it to the ticket price .. you pay a little more to have the ability to bring one
When you fly Spirit or Frontier, they let you bring an item you can fit under the seat in front of you. I have a small gym duffel bag I use. I can fit up to a week worth of clothes in there.
@@yyyid9518 if you have to fly with your baby, you effectively don't get a bag because you'll have to choose between bring the baby bag or your stuff and you end up paying extra now.
Back when the carryon size was just a it bigger, I would bring a bag that had room for me and baby 👶
It was way worse than flights in previous years and I just have 1 baby ✋💀😭
For the young ones reading and unaware of the root.
This was supposed to be a temporary measure to recover from loses due to 9-11.
Never knew that... As a younger individual
Sometimes I need to check in a bag, sometimes I don't. I do my darndest to not have to.
i can attest to the transferring of bags. when i worked at FLL for the best airline in the world (Spirit, lol) i was i charge of transferring bags tail to tail. so, i would have about 4 carts and have my own system of which flights are transferring from a flight. i knew that a particular transferring flight would be heavier than the rest and that would usually fill up one cart. i’d also have to make sure i had the bags for the flight that was leaving the soonest. it was a tad stressful, but i can honestly say, i never got bags late to their corresponding destinations. i find it sad that they pay them so poorly. they’re the heart of the whole operation.
Sounds like excuses! So where did you put all these transfer bags?
I do love watching how other airlines operate!
Greetings from New Zealand 🙂
Greetings from South Texas.. Man! we are so far far away! I have always been interested in New Zealand, I don't like big cities with many people, I have the impression there is a lot of land between people over there, I like watching videos about your island, you are very lucky, if we have a zombie apocalypse, I think you guys will be the only ones to survive!! : ) by the way I live about 70 miles from SPACE X Boca Chica Tx, so you have an idea how is this area...
Odd that airlines have not standardized bags. A standard bag might fly for no charge, whereas an odd sized bag would get a charge. A bag designed to experience fewer jams or with a built in barcode might help reduce the number of lost pieces of luggage.
Common sense isn’t common lol
I am very confident in saying that airlines will NOT change the baggage policy. They have gotten comfortable with the added revenue from checked luggage. Anything and Everything that is checked WILL BE charged.
I flew out of San Jose to Chicago with Virgin and I paid $50 for the one bag. I didn’t know I had to pay a bad fee. I could have flown with Southwest for a little cheaper if I’d known. I stopped flying domestic because of that bag fee. I’ve only flown internationally since then where two bags are always included in the price of the ticket. It’s my way of protesting bag fees.
Airlines charge so much nowadays, that I use one of the suitcase shipping services. I don't have to carry it at all and it is insured, shows up at the hotel before I arrive.
To save money and reduce stress when flying, buy your plane ticket on a Tuesday, avoid peak travel days, chose a direct flight, and travel light by sticking to a carry-on bag. If you're less likely to need the lavatory and you don't want to be bothered, opt for the window seat.
Part of the growing junk fee trend
This isn’t a junk fee they don’t want to deal with all these bags it’s too much work so you pay a premium to get this service
Not a junk fee.
It started after 9/11 as a recovery fee for the loses suffered after the event.
And then became permanent because companies love to exploit people.
Honestly, it makes sense for airlines to charge for carryons, but NOT checked bags (at least the 1st one). If I’m southwest, I’d implement a change to charge for Carryons and keep checked bags free, that way boarding and deplaning can be much more quicker.
My problem is why did they have to start at 50 dollars. If they started at 1-5 dollars people wouldn't care as much and just pay it. Corporate greed
The bag fee was supposed to be temporary.....the airlines have no real competition....I bet if we open our domestic gates to Emirates, Cathy Pacific, or Lufthansa all of a sudden those fees would disappear...
I legit did this to save 40 bucks in baggage fees. When I was in Vegas, I bought stuff, clothes, etc, and before I flew back to my city, I stepped into a packaging store and ship the stuff back to my house via UPS. It was cheaper to ship it than to pay for baggage fees
How does this justify the baggage fee?? This sounds like we only have airports since last year, ridiculous
As someone who worked at Heathrow for 10.5 years, I know what is talked about the ant hill. Passengers don't really appreciate what is involved in getting them and their luggage to there destination. Christmas pressure one year, I personally loaded a Uld unit (aircraft bin), with 4 tons of post. It was going on a jumbo flight to New York. The driver of the truck couldn't believe how much the suspension dropped when the Uld left the high lift.
As someone who works in baggage for the featured airline, I can only say it's not for the weak. Also ppl will literally bring everything on a plane. They will bring bags weighing literally over 100 lbs & I'm not joking
That's airline's and the person that accepts the bag's fault.
@@gaoxiaen1 ticket agents don't give af. They don't care what happens below wing
Why the misinformation?
@@davidsmiths5471 y would I lie?
@@NicotineRosberg No passenger can bring a bag over 99lbs! So they are not over that weight literally!
During the 2008 financial crisis, our government bailed out all the major airlines. To show their gratitude, they started charging bag fees
Luggage fees is just absurd.
Airplanes flights are expensive as are the manhours in moving it
baggage fees will only go away if airlines take a hit to their main revenue stream because customers hate baggage fees. however, because of the monopoly airlines hold over certain routes, the consumer is just SOL.
@@jobunaga4178 Dude, we all know the result is people carry less baggage
@@jobunaga4178
No.
This is a new thing that started after 9/11.
Airlines started a temporary charge for baggage to recover the loses from the attack.
Before that, there was almost no limit to how much you could check in.
We are seeing the same now, with business charging for things that were included before the pandemic.
To ”recover”, but all these new charges will become permanent.
@@Dangic23 Baggage fees did start as a way to recoup financial loss after 9/11, but then with soaring fuel prices is what kept bag fees to stay. It's really not absurd. The more a plane weight, the more fuel it burns. If you travel light, you don't have to pay for that extra fuel burn. If you chose to travel with more, you pay for it. Very sinple. and not greedy at all.
Baggage fee is a scam, not a 'business'..
That's silly. No one is lying about the charges and the service is real.
I've wondered why airlines haven't learned from the maritime cargo industry? When cargo ships started using standard containers, the entire industry became so mush more effective and efficient. The airlines should standardize suitcases and carry-ons. One small and one big, and all the same. No extra pockets, expanders, or things dangling off the sides. Now of course people are still going to travel with golf clubs, surf boards, bicyles, etc. but those will be handled as oversized and charged accordingly. At least this way we know that all carry-ons will fit rather than watch some try to cram what should have been a checked bag into an overhead compartment.
**ALWAYS** take a picture of your checked bags, it will save you if a bag is lost or sig delayed. Also, I think the airlines should not impose a flat bag fee, but should reflect whether full fare tickets are bought v. heavily discounted.
They literally do this. Atleast American Airlines does.
Another reason why I'm a carry-on only guy. So much more convenient and cost saving
Except some of us have knives and electronics
It’s not cost saving.
They are making you uncomfortable by charging for something that was already included before.
Is like saying that you are ok with the airline charging for the seatbelt, because you are bringing your own seatbelt and “outsmarted “ them.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@samsonsoturian6013 u dont have to check electronics and why are you travelling with knives 🤔
@@Dangic23 it is definitely cost saving and its not uncomfortable, way more uncomfortable to be carrying a check bag around... I only pay for what I need. I can fit everything in a personal item & carry on so I dont need to check a luggage.
@@fpl_bailey because I don't want to buy one when I get where I'm going.
That delta employee is lying..the average narrow body aircraft hold about 150 seats.. on average every passenger will have 1.5 bags.. you can fit almost every passengers bag in the forward or aft hold. I worked for several regional carriers back in the 1990's and we always got every bag on the plane .. and theses planes seats for at least most 50 people .. what a joke ..
Hope this bad habit of charging for bags doesn't catch on with other airlines outside US😢.
The solution is simple. Airlines should allow passengers to check at least one bag for free, but charge them for carry-on luggage (except for a purse or small backpack, etc). That would improve efficiency, speed, and the overall experience.
I travel light. Hand bag and carry on. If it dont fit then it doesn't come. Simple. Saves time ⏲️ and any possibility of misplaced luggage in the event of connecting flights
that is not a good excuse to charge money on check bag
In the 80s it was long lines at the check in counter with no bag fee's and you had your free seat assignment. Now in the 2020s its no check in counter all computer check in and a fee for everything.
The funny thing is them making it seem easy when cameras around😂🤣😂🤣 IYKYK
the real story should be why people carry their kitchen sinks on the plane for a 2-4 day domestic trip in America! 😂
for me it's cuz my family is usually a doing a 2 week road trip somewhere.
Consumerism and social media
Exactly. I can fly internationally for a month with a carryon and a small backpack (not one of those huge ones).
Let me ask my sister in law. She went across the state for 48 hours and brought a full sized checked bag and a carry on suitcase. 48 hours.
@@virginiakingsford9470 😂 they all act like “oh i will use this and that”, but ended up not using most of the things they packed. They just ended up as dead weight in the suitcase.
This video changed my mind about bag fees. I used to think the airlines are greedy but they showcased Delta's baggage operations and what the baggage operations team was doing. They are leveraging some efficient technology. Im all for the bag fees. PAY THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THEMSELVES IN DANGER TO TRANSFER OUR BAGS! Iwill be more patient when waiting for my checked bags because they are doing the lords work.
"because they are doing the lords work"
Sure buddy.
It's Free on Asian airlines, with top-notch services & quality control. Staff handle the baggage with care mostly, no theft, less lost bags than US. Its so much better than US baggage operations yet is FREE!
They get paid because it's their job. They're free to quit.
Airline should pay them, not you.
They are being greedy. All that PROFIT does not go into paying employees better. Thats why Delta strikes more frequently and longer than any other airline. Airlines are constantly looking for another way to squeeze more money out of us. Prime example is their new class for tickets. This is what Late Stage Capaitalism looks like.
We pay this much for checked bags but as soon as we receive our bags in the carousel baggage claims. Our bags are either have zipper broken, the wheels came off, cracked hard case luggage, etc.
Airports should train their staff NOT to throw bags around.
To be fair, have you seen how TSA handles luggage?
Why does CNBC spend so much airtime doing 'man on the street' interviews? Do these random people have anymore insight into a topic than I do just because you stick a microphone in their face? Anecdotes are not news.
I wish they start charging the bathroom also, or maybe include in a package like Wifi + bathroom + luggage = $200. I think it’s doable and customers will appreciate in the long run (because they choose to run instead of flying).
You’re talking about RyanAir’s possible plan?
@@jtgd I don’t know about the bathrooms , but they wish to put the standing air tickets if they get the approval, most likely it won’t.
is this a joke?
@@--julian_ these all are the proposed plans, but not guarantee to get approvals any time soon.
I flew Delta to Australia, and they wanted $100 for my second bag. When I found I could carry on the bag, they kept the $100 even though I didn't check it in. At least I now have more understanding and sympathy for all the workers behind the scene that handle the bags.
We need regulation for the airline industry. Baggage fees are way to expensive. Baggage used to be free with every flight.
You'd be amazed how many people overpack for short trips. Just properly packing a bag could change your checked bag to a carry on (obviously without the full sized liquids). I think a better way to do it would be to weigh checked bags and charged you based on weight (capped out at $25) so you might only have to pay $15 dollars for example for the weight. If you can afford to pay for the plane ticket and often transportation to the airport usually a checked bag fee is pretty minimal.
Save money following these simple rules and don't check bags:
1. Pack bare essentials only.
2. If needed, ship some stuff to yourself ahead of time.
I've saved a lot of money following those simple rules.
or just fly southwest. simple
@@jackli6592 sw isn't always available, nor always economical.
A checked bag was never free, it was included with the price of the ticket.
Well now is still included and they also charge for it.. the government (DEM or REP) allows them to steal from us
And now that you have to pay extra (since 9/11), the ticket didn’t go down.
So you are still paying even if you don’t have luggage.
Now you pay twice.
@@gaoxiaen1 Exactly, it's called double dipping.
Bag fee isn’t junk fee is called people are so cheap forcing airlines to separate ticket prices into different chunks. If you add everything together its the whole ticket price, in the past they don’t charge baggage fees is because those fees were all included in the ticket price you paid thats why flight in the past actually cost a lot more than now (inflation adjusted price), now the price is just all unbundled.
Yeah I don’t think so. The price of a flight between NYC and ATL is almost the same on Delta and Southwest. However, when you add baggage and select the option that allows a carry-on, the ticket price increases by almost $100 on Delta. Prices are not cheaper today, baggage fees were a “temporary” fee put in place after 9/11 due to the downturn, and pure greed is what has kept them around 2 decades later.
Kind of like the streaming services. We used to pay one cable bill for hundreds of channels, not people like to pay for separate services. It was probably cheaper the old way.
@@Clipper1094 price is cheap today, than it was in the 1960 1970 1980 1990. You think around trip NYC to ATL is expensive now? LOL. go check the inflation adjusted prices back then! In 1970 nyc to london on average cost 550 that is $5350 in todays money. Today same flight on average cost less than $1200.
I’m very happy that by not giving airlines $30 for something that once was free and now decided to charge for, potentially is costing them three or four times more in lost revenue and delay compensation. I’d keep bringing carry on baggage filled to the brim and putting it on the compartment as slow as possible.
The complexity of these operations is one reason a flight will rarely leave on time. Like taxes, delays are here to stay.
Thats why I fly foreign airlines, no added fees
Try Volaris
The estimated total pay for a Operations Manager at Delta Air Lines is $131,895 per year.Feb 20, 2023
Pay them good and hopefully 110% employee performance circle s back to Delta.
Airlines make the least money from selling seats compared to bag fees and the very very profitable frequent flyer plans. Freq fler plans can be worth more than the airline division.
In India we can check in a Luggage bad and a carry on bag together weighing less then 23kgs. air india allows even more
Those bag fees are why I always carry on all day and if I need to check my bag at the gate, then I make sure I can check it for free. I pay nothing extra if I want to carry my bag. Also, as a previous Ramp agent, one thing that the airlines don’t do is have a commission for every bag that is checked for both their ticketing agents checking peoples bags and for the ramp agents handling their bags.
Seeing how people is abusing it, the end of free carry on is near.
Many airlines are getting rid of carry on too on their cheapest fares. So when you “upgrade” to the regular fare, you are paying more than $50 to get the privilege of bringing a carry on and choosing your middle seats in the back row that are left to be picked.
@@jorgebolivar I’m going to be honest, they already were on the legacy carriers anyway since the bag fees were first introduced
same, when I travel I only use a carry on and a back pack
this was pretty interesting
Amazes me how baggage theft isn’t more popular. All you need to do it walk into any airport and the baggage claims are after security so you can just walk in and out with them
There’s plenty of ticket options that still include a checked bag. If y’all keep booking the cheapest ticket, don’t expect much. If you pay for a first class, you get 2 free (included) bags.
My sister was planning on coming but when she how expensive the plane tickets and the Bag limit fees were she had to dip out.
It wasn't that long ago that a worker checked your ticket vs. your luggage when you left the baggage claim area. Nowadays, just anyone off the street can grab a bag and walk away. What happened?
Costs $$ to pay bag pick-up attendants.
Probably cheaper for them to deal with a small percentage of stolen bag claims
Wait what
Don’t security check bag otherwise baggage Stealer
When did that happen? I've been flying for 20+ years and I have never seen anyone check the bag to match your ticket.
I feel that the baggage fees are getting outrageous i fly southwest first then delta then American I’d walk before i fly spirit
This is why i love rail travel. 🚄 Bring your bag in the train with you.
What was your longest trip?
Theres a funny side to this. Ever seen passengers wearing every item of clothing they posess?
Here's something you can do: pay the baggage fee on the outbound flight, then send your bags home by UPS ground service - after all, you have the rest of your wardrobe waiting at home. A buddy saved about 50 bucks doing this.
I didn’t check, but I believe 30lb checked bag shipping to home via UPS will be more expensive than on Delta
I figured out how to beat the airlines and never pay for bags...
I just wear everything when I fly.
Another thing where US is about 10 years behind Europe.
This is a global thing, silly
This is a business no one knew would explode like it did. Your are better off shipping your luggage through Fedex or UPS
This is an industrial engineer’s dream job
as an IE in the airline industry - YES
I mean, as somebody who does the excat job they are talko g about, in some respects the fees are a good thing from my view. It is a incentive to properly planning your packing. Central and South american, as well as African flight are notorious for having huge bag loads on the narrowbodies and heavy bag loads on the widebodies. And these bags are not properly packed, falling apart, round little balls.... everything but a rectangular bag that has a even weight distribution. I have had 1 bag rip as i picked it up, and it was full of oatmeal. Like 15 gallon bags filled with steel cut oats. Its frankly silly what people put in these bags. And sure we constantly try not to lose track of or misload anything. And while the raw number of missed bags may be really high, if I am getting 99% of the bags on board thats really good. If your car is 99% full of gas, of your phone is 99% charged that pretty good right?
What does it matter if they’re bringing in their luggage? Ppl bring stuff to others overseas all the time
No.
Absolutely nothing to do with packing.
It’s about exploiting people for the money.
@@cocomalonee foodstuffs are highly suspect to Customs. Agricultural safety. Dont want to import(or export) pests that will ruin crops.
US service in hospitality has become one of the worst in the world. Extra charges everywhere when flying, idiotic "resort" and other fees for hotels, endless tipping.
We flew on Alaska from SEA to MSY on Friday. We paid a $100 overweight fee on our one piece of luggage, it came out on the carousel at MSY torn up and missing a wheel. We had to shop for 2 carryon suitcases to evenly divide what was in our suitcase with a receipt to provide to Alaska in hopes of compensation on top of waiving the $100 overweight fee they charged us at SEA.
Nah that's too much. Buy a weighing machine at home
Are you dumb? If you go to the airline counter right away, they give you another bag free or compensation
Delta has one of the most beautiful airline transportation systems, no complaints here👌👍🏼🙌💪😀😎🤙🏽
A ticket fromMiami to Frankfurt last December ($850) 1 st bag a whooping $200 price tag , second bag I couldn’t bother to check price !!
If I have to pay a fee for my luggage, I am not lugging it through the airport.
Nice RUclips show 👍🏼 👌 👏🏽 😀 🙌 😎 🤙🏽
The real answer is even shorter. Customers let them. If customers refused to fly right when bag fees were introduced there would be no bag fees today.
i understand the fees but damn....
O'Hare used to be the busiest. Times have changed.
Nationalized highspeed rail. No need to worry about bag fees or getting separated from your bags while getting to where you need to get fast. Bonus, no TSA.
There will be a TSA because America has a mass shooting problem
Do you really think they wouldn't put TSA on high speed rail?
With America being such a large country I'm not sure I'd want to sit on a train for a day or two crossing the country. I believe in regional high speed rail to connect larger cities but cross country would not be an ideal way to travel.
@@Truth-of-the-matter Rail can't replace all air travel and not all luggage is from cross country flights. The average flight distance is ~500mi which is perfect for HSR.
missing bags are far beyond annoyying,
Most bags flew for free..... Really???
What about the the ticket fare?? . Bag's fee was already included. Now, you have to pay more
Osama went away by giving corporate America a lot of money😂
Noice
''For decades most bags flew for free'' - Was that really so?
These costs and the sheer annoyance of getting to a flight is the reason I haven't flown since 2005.
If I can't get there on the ground I simply don't go, with apologies to those I have been unable to attend... because flying has become more of a nightmare than convenience.
Case in point: I was just coming into Atlanta when that idiot ran down the up escalator when the airport was under extreme security (2002). Ended up shutting down the airport for like... 4+ hours>
Another incident was when I got my bag I found it was no longer neatly packed but crammed and poorly secured. When I got home I noticed that a few of the clothing items were not mine. One of them had a small wallet, the kind a tourist might carry with as little as possible but it did have someone's driver license in it. Took me couple weeks, back then, to track them down and make direct contact rather than going through the airline. They were delighted to get their license back after almost a month.
You are a good person. Thank you!
Not me! I haven’t paid a baggage fee in years.
I have zero issue wearing the same thing every day
Hence the putrid body odor.
once, I was flying with sprint and they opened my bag and took my edibles and joints. The joints were gifts. won't get joints again.
Makes sense to me
Spirit bag fee is the highest to me, I guess cheap tickets means high check bags fees.
Almost all airlines now charge for carry on luggage
They shouldn’t charge. Never get charged in Europe, Asia or Australia. In Australia not only do they not charge but they still provide full food service with alcohol on afternoons. That’s full service.
In Europe they do charge in many companies like Ryanair, Easyjet, Vueling… even in some flagship companies too
@@ChichillasGM I avoid US airlines whenever I can. High prices, poor service, rude employees. It cost much less to fly Tokyo to SF than SF to Philly.
Increase the fees and cutting back on the tolerance on clothing attire
how? raising ticket prices
why are US based airlines making you pay for carry ons???? I flew frontier from NYC to Orlando i was only allowed a personal item and my friend is flying united from NYC to LAX and she's not able to bring a bag larger than a piece of paper on board that's disgusting imo
1:54
Video shows misleading statistical analysis imo
Here's just and example from looking online from the US Department of Transportation
2018
Delayed bags:
Delayed less than 12 hours: 20.5 million
Delayed between 12 and 24 hours: 2.7 million
Delayed more than 24 hours: 0.2 million
Damaged bags:
Minor damage: 1.8 million
Major damage: 0.3 million
Lost bags:
Lost, later found and delivered to owner: 0.6 million
Lost, never found: 0.4 million
Stolen bags:
Stolen from checked baggage: 12,400
Stolen from other locations, including gates, baggage claim, etc.: 5,000
····································
2019:
Delayed bags:
Delayed less than 12 hours: 21.7 million
Delayed between 12 and 24 hours: 2.3 million
Delayed more than 24 hours: 0.1 million
Damaged bags:
Minor damage: 2.4 million
Major damage: 0.4 million
Lost bags:
Lost, later found and delivered to owner: 0.5 million
Lost, never found: 0.4 million
Stolen bags:
Stolen from checked baggage: 9,400
Stolen from other locations, including gates, baggage claim, etc.: 4,500
Airline Total:
Number of Mishandled Bags :
Baggage Rate per 1,000 Passengers:
Alaska Airlines
434,568
2.81
Allegiant Air
146,510
3.74
American Airlines
1,955,811
4.34
Delta Air Lines
1,482,927
2.87
Envoy Air
355,283
5.90
ExpressJet Airlines
220,542
5.28
Frontier Airlines
236,031
3.46
Hawaiian Airlines
44,441
1.88
JetBlue Airways
268,890
2.54
Mesa Airlines
77,031
4.32
PSA Airlines
264,740 5.08
SkyWest Airlines
676,212
4.50
Southwest Airlines
747,215
2.55
Spirit Airlines
387,236
4.09
United Airlines
1,231,972
3.34
My holiday was ruined after I realized the suitcase did not arrive n to me.
And now seating selection will double that then triplwith carry on fees too
Next they will charge you for seat belt,air,bathroom,toilet paper,soap germ,crap
I just saw recently that they are only doing 1 free check in bag now instead of the normal 2.
Even worse. Usually you have a cabin bag. A Spanish airline now only include a "personal item" that has to fit under the seat. And they really check the size before you board. .
Just say it’s a carry on and check at the gate
One checked bag should be part of the lowest fare ticket on the plane for international flight. They are going to nickle and dime everything to keep YoY profit increase.
My view is the airlines should charge a standard price for a ticket as it once was. If that means raising fares then so be it. There is no excuse for this buy a ticket, then pay added charges for the one bag you check in, then you pay added charges for the seat you select. It's gotten to the point if you find a round trip fare for $350, then add in seats and your luggage. That damn ticket is approaching or has hit $500. Otherwise you have to fly Southwest whenever you fly. You pay the roundtrip fare and your done with it unless you have more than 2 bags. Truthfully it wouldn't bother me anymore if the airlines all started going out of business, since its become a total misery to fly anymore at least within the USA.
While it isn't a new thing to charge for checked baggage, US airline companies are the ones to take the practice to the extreme. Take for instance a flight from JFK to LAX is around about 600+ on average one way and takes about 5.5 hours to fly there, depending on traffic. Take the same distance trip in Australia, Brisbane to Perth, which is almost the same distance, cost almost 150US less and doesn't charge for checked baggage. Now I can add the fact that flying isn't exactly fun in the US and the way people are treated in US airports is a travesty but that is going outside the focus of this subject. Consider the fact that checked baggage comes just under revenue, in the profit and loss statement that is, no one can tell how much they actually make but as the numbers show, it will keep going up as these corporations want. To put it into perspective, US airlines are consistently rated lower in almost every aspect of their service with respect to their pricing. Also, US airlines are not known for treating your luggage very well, and AA is one of the worst while earning 1.2US billion in revenue just for baggage handling. That is all I wanted to say.
My new luggage got destroyed once. The other time the lock was destroyed and it was wrapped up by plastic. I no longer have faith in American airline luggage handlers.
From the numbers they gave, your chances of loosing your bag in the US is 0.6%! Wish they had done the math for you