His name was Lennon, no connection with Vladimir Ulyanov (who used the nom de Guerrero Lenin), nor to bedsheets. One of the most famous musicians of Deutero-Elizabethan England.
Correction, after a brief bit of digging it seems all of JS Bach's direct descendants died off in the mid to late 19th century but there are quite a few Bach's around today descended from Bach's grandfather.
@@Quotenwagnerianer Are you sure about that? Because when I look up "Does anybody living today have the last name of Mozart" quite a few results show up of people living today still bearing the last name of Mozart. This suggests that maybe like with Bach, there are living direct descendents of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's grandfather but we just don't know much about the Mozart bloodline except the part that leads to Leopold Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's father.
This can only mean one thing: Dwight Shrutte is of the Beethoven ancestory! Beethoven is in occupational surname in German meaning Beetroot Farms, and Dwight is a German Beetroot Farmer... This is the ultimate conspiracy theory!
Beethoven's last descendent took up the mantle of his namesake and followed in his great ancestor's footsteps, taking up music. He worked hard and became a famous DJ and remix artist with the name of Beat Lovin (pronounced Bait Loeven)
You say that his origins lie in The Netherlands. But actually the Van Beethoven family came from Mechelen (Malines), a city in Flanders, Belgium. As a Belgian viewer of your channel I find that important.
*Bach is a very common family name: so either way, there are still plenty, ranging from the chief of the Olympics to the dentist down the block from me.*
Well seeing as how the old stud had a couple dozens kids, I'm sure there are quite a few direct descendants floating around. Edit: Apparently not. Seems they died off in the 19th century.
I highly recommend the movie Immortal Beloved for anyone who enjoys Beethoven. It's a historically loose drama based on Beethoven's later life. Great music and great dialogue.
I was very curious in what form 12Tone would appear in your video, and laughed out loud when he arrived as an elephant! Great job all round. I remember when Elvis died, oddly I don't remember hearing the news about John Lennon and as later became a huge Beatles fan, this is somewhat troubling. Beethoven died before I was born, though.
When Beethoven's father died, the Duke of Cologne condoled by writing: "Die Getränke-Akzise hat einen Verlust erlitten." ("The bavarage excise has suffered a loss")
@@rosiefay7283 than he had to say modern day Belgium. Still even regardless that he is still wrong since Belgium was a part of Austria not the Netherlands.
are there any descendents of jean-baptiste lully, 1632-1687 left? he was a great composer of the baroque era, and court composer to king louis the fourteenth.
Random person on youtube In the German language, w’s will most likely be pronounced as the v sound, so the word wasser (German for water) will be pronounced like “vosser” and the way j’s are pronounced has a rule as well. Jungen (Boys) will be pretty much pronounced as “youngen” due to the y sound replacing the j sound. Edit: the word “Ja” (yes) will sound like ya, which is pretty good for English as well, so that’s good to know.
Honestly, I don't really care for classical music too much, but Beethoven's work, especially after his hearing got worse and worse, are just admirable. Although I did a presentation about him myself for school (and having heard several of them, because I live in Germany...), this video was still interesting, as it went deeper into Beethoven's familytree. And now I also know what Beethoven actually means!
His father never hit him. He was rude, yelled at him, woke him in the middle of the night to play, but that's it. There's also the hypothesis that he had a child with Josephine, who's the best candidate to be the immortal beloved from the letter. She had a daughter, called Minona when she was separated from her husband, and the child has been conceived around the time she and Beethoven were in Prague at the same time. If you take a look at Minona's photography, you can see a resemblance with Ludwig. Nothing has confirmed this, but Josephine never told anyone who the father was, not even Minona (or she never wanted to tell anyone either).
One of his sons was a somewhat famous engineer in America. One of his grandsons owned (no kidding) a used car business in California. In the 1980s, he had a real TV ad where he actually said, 'It doesn't take an Einstein to know that this is a great deal!". The NY Times had that story in an article about the Einsteins.
go to Xidnaf's channel. In short, China comes indirectly from the ruling Qing dynasty. The empires of China never really had a name and since they were the most important polity they called themselves the middle empire (middle as in between Heaven and Earth, as in, close to Heaven).
0:49 My surname is *van den Akker,* it's Dutch and yes I'm from Holland 🇳🇱. _van den = of the_ Akker = farmfield. But it sounds cooler when saying it meant Acre... like large peace of land. That's what I used to say, when I lived in the USA. HAHA... Oh well... what's a name...
Actually Beethoven's Choral Fantasia predates the Choral Symphony and some of the phrasing reflects the musical structure. I am not sure if it was a full orchestra, but it is easy to find here on YOutube and is worth a listen.
It seems Beethoven ancestors and of spring were either musiscans or members of the army hence the name and the meaning of his surname involes war and peace, precisely farms and military.
Music has been rebooted to "drum" music but with new technological elements i will guess if we cloned Beethoven today he would be an electronic experimental musician like many German and European modern composers.It took like 300 years of classical music to get a Bethoven maybe we will see a modern Beethoven for our modern music in 250 years who knows everything is happening so fast these days.
According to a Belgian newspaper we still have a couple 100 Van Beethoven's living in Belgium today... So if you are just looking for people with the same name... You can still find them in the country of his grandfather, Belgium... Back then it was the Netherlands... But now its of course Belgium.
The last one in your line! There is likely many of your Hawkes relatives still around, but you will likely share common ancestors from the tenth century onwards...earlier for aristocracy.
I meant in relation to the actual origin of your Hawkes line which won't predate the 10th century when the Normans started to instigate surnames in Britain. They already had surnames as had the SAxon chiefs. I am not sure how surnames started elsewhere in Europe and I am assuming your surname is British! Apologies.
I’d ask for a study into the descendants of Jan Vermeer, the Dutch Renaissance painter, but as I am one of them it wouldn’t be terribly interesting. He has a lot of descendants.
I was born in a palace in old vienna, danubian waltses my llulubyes, my father was yohann with great moustaches my mother maria with emerld eyes. Bethovens parents were maria and Yohann and had a child named anna. Could this been anne of green gables fairytail parents
I have tried to look up if there are any Bachs left or if there are any Mozarts left and while Bach's family tree is super complicated, Mozart's is simple and it quickly leads me to an answer of inconclusive. Yeah, the only lineage I can find is that towards Leopold Mozart, who isn't to say that there are possibly people related to Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's great grandfather living today that still bear the last name Mozart? And when I look up something along the lines of "Does anyone have the last name Mozart that is living" and surprisingly, I get quite a few results. Though these people certainly aren't descended from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, they could still be distant, distant relatives of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. Or it could be that there have been multiple separate lineages with the last name of Mozart, who knows?
I have read many answers to that question, with the ine dated furthest back was in the 27th century bc. So, it would seem that cogs were a thing when beethoven was alive
Married and had no children?? what did they use? the withdrawal method? How does a married couple - considering all things in working order - avoid pregnancy, in the absence of effective or reliable contraceptive methods?
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I guess it takes a deaf musician to compose something unheard of.
Genius
Underrated
*_woah_*
Now that's what I call music
;-;
John Lenin, the motherlands most psychedelic musician
He's so dangerously deluded that if he told you that he was in The Beatles you'd have to simply agree.
He imagined no possessions. And no religion too.
His name was Lennon, no connection with Vladimir Ulyanov (who used the nom de Guerrero Lenin), nor to bedsheets.
One of the most famous musicians of Deutero-Elizabethan England.
That's the point of the joke.
Vladimir Lennon was the leader of the Bolsheviks, translated as Beatles in English
Are there any Mozarts or Bachs left?
Don't know about Mozarts but there a lots of Bachs around
Correction, after a brief bit of digging it seems all of JS Bach's direct descendants died off in the mid to late 19th century but there are quite a few Bach's around today descended from Bach's grandfather.
No Mozart's left. Mozart's son Franz Xaver was the last to bear this name.
Bach had 20 kids
@@Quotenwagnerianer Are you sure about that? Because when I look up "Does anybody living today have the last name of Mozart" quite a few results show up of people living today still bearing the last name of Mozart. This suggests that maybe like with Bach, there are living direct descendents of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's grandfather but we just don't know much about the Mozart bloodline except the part that leads to Leopold Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's father.
This can only mean one thing:
Dwight Shrutte is of the Beethoven ancestory!
Beethoven is in occupational surname in German meaning Beetroot Farms, and Dwight is a German Beetroot Farmer...
This is the ultimate conspiracy theory!
when I hear beet, I think shrutte
I think it would have been funny for Dwight's last name to be Beethoven. Would have opened up some more great scenes. 😂
Mose-zart
My last name is Beethoven 😮😮 💀
Last Beethoven died in ww1, he was the grandson of Beethoven's nephew.
@@fluffytom82 Wow, really? How cool!!
What was his name?
@@mashynua1751 Beet B Hoven?
@@Scrub_Lord-en7cq wait a minute what is that pfp💀
Beethoven's last descendent took up the mantle of his namesake and followed in his great ancestor's footsteps, taking up music. He worked hard and became a famous DJ and remix artist with the name of
Beat Lovin (pronounced Bait Loeven)
You should do Ben Franklin, since he has so many illegitimate children
Illegitimate children don't carry on the family name.
Person 1: Hi, my names John, what’s yours?
Person 2: *Beetroot Farm*
Watch *Immortal Beloved (1994)* with *Gary Oldman* as the titular character: it's the *best movie about Beethoven* out there!
Totally wrong woman as the the title character. All clues point to the another; the one mentioned in this video.
Are there any Beethovens left?
Spoiler:
*No*
I see it as being about the journey, not the destination.
I know somebody who is named Beethoven, and he is a comedian in my country.
thank you for 10 minutes of life
Is he a patriot?
Wow lol
You say that his origins lie in The Netherlands. But actually the Van Beethoven family came from Mechelen (Malines), a city in Flanders, Belgium. As a Belgian viewer of your channel I find that important.
At the time, IIRC, Belgium was part of the Netherlands.
Well Flanders is majority Dutch speaking and many people from there have Dutch descent :p
Ey maet maybe get a watch n you can be Yannick De Early
@@Copyright_Infringement this is why my dad keeps saying French Fries is in fact French.... nope
@@Copyright_Infringement for 15 years between 1815 and 1830. Not when the Beethovens lived in modern day Belgium
The next will be Mozart, Bach and Haydn :-0
And Strauss
*Bach is a very common family name: so either way, there are still plenty, ranging from the chief of the Olympics to the dentist down the block from me.*
@@Suite_annamite I know it's popular. But the question is about particular line.
Well seeing as how the old stud had a couple dozens kids, I'm sure there are quite a few direct descendants floating around. Edit: Apparently not. Seems they died off in the 19th century.
So is Strauss but not every Strauss in the world is a descendant of Johann Strauss or Richard Strauss
The song playing in this vodeo is in this video is the 1st movement of moonlight sonata
tmw two RUclipsrs you subbed but completely unrelated suddenly create a coop
*coup
*lenin* did you mean:
VLADIMIR LENIN
Are there any Lenins left?
Setsuko Momoka thats a good question
Setsuko Momoka Not really, Vladimir Lenin’s real last name is Ulyanov. Lenin was just an alias.
5h4d0w The EdgeHog just because he used “lenin” as an alias doesn’t mean he **COULD** have generations down the line
Mid ary exactly
I highly recommend the movie Immortal Beloved for anyone who enjoys Beethoven. It's a historically loose drama based on Beethoven's later life.
Great music and great dialogue.
Totally wrong woman as the the title character. All clues point to the another; the one mentioned in this video.
I was very curious in what form 12Tone would appear in your video, and laughed out loud when he arrived as an elephant! Great job all round. I remember when Elvis died, oddly I don't remember hearing the news about John Lennon and as later became a huge Beatles fan, this is somewhat troubling. Beethoven died before I was born, though.
I don't care if there's any Beethoven's with that surname. I want to know if anyone blood related to him is still alive.
When Beethoven's father died, the Duke of Cologne condoled by writing: "Die Getränke-Akzise hat einen Verlust erlitten." ("The bavarage excise has suffered a loss")
I wonder who the familiar face will be in the 12tones video! Must see!
I think they're going to do "Understanding Badgers-Badgers-Badgers". Should be interesting.
Are there any descendants of Otto von Bismarck left
Yea, the noble tite is even still alive, prince/ss bismarck i think
German politician Carl-Eduard von Bismarck is the great-great-grandson of Otto von Bismarck
Of all the Beetoven songs to have in the background you choose my favorite. Thank you.
Famous in wars from Beetfarms. What a prestigious title.
So there are living relatives of him, but they don't have his surname..
Interesting...
Thank you for this marvelous video
Two of my favorite RUclips channels, great collab!
Great video, beautifully edited and narrated, with the background music to top it all; moreover, the information, really interesting. Thanks!
Oh my, two of my favorite channels together? Sign me in!
Are there any Hamiltons left?
Are there any Washingtons left?
Are there any Jeffersons left?
Yes. Lewis, Denzel, and that family from the homonymous 70s TV show.
@@joe_ita He meant direct descedents
@@philipgagarin6673 i was joking lol
@@joe_ita
Movin' on up
To the East Side
To a deluxe apartment
In the sky....
Let the world know their last names
Van Beethovens ancestors came from Belgium and not from the Netherlands
But Belgium didn't become independent until after Ludwig died. So it would be anachronistic to say "Belgium" for where his ancestors came from.
@@rosiefay7283 than he had to say modern day Belgium. Still even regardless that he is still wrong since Belgium was a part of Austria not the Netherlands.
Flanders
@@rosiefay7283 he really meant to say Flanders
Fact. Dwight Schrute is the last Beethoven.
Dwight Schrute has a son named Philip so he's not the last 😂
we may never have another Beethoven again but...
we do have some geniuses like John Williams, Ennio Morricone and Hans Zimmer
CARRLLLLL. CARLLLLLLLL. THE WALKERS CARLLLL.
Nah, that "Coral".
Ohhhh, hey, how did he get here?
are there any descendents of jean-baptiste lully, 1632-1687 left? he was a great composer of the baroque era, and court composer to king louis the fourteenth.
This is my favorite series of yours
It's pronounced Lud-VIG not Lud-WIG. At lesat 12Tone got it right!
What's the difference
Like I heard both of them say Ludwig and I can't hear a difference in pronunciation
Random person on youtube
In the German language, w’s will most likely be pronounced as the v sound, so the word wasser (German for water) will be pronounced like “vosser” and the way j’s are pronounced has a rule as well. Jungen (Boys) will be pretty much pronounced as “youngen” due to the y sound replacing the j sound.
Edit: the word “Ja” (yes) will sound like ya, which is pretty good for English as well, so that’s good to know.
Actually, since voiced consonants are usually pronounced voiceless at the end of a word, a more accurate pronunciation would be /ludvik/.
My brain:sees "Beet Farm"= Shrute Farms.
Conspiracy theory?
Aw damn I was *beet*
Angela Kamene
I thought the same thing lol
Beethoven's Choral Fantasia is great...but with the lyrics of Johannes Becher it became a masterpiece!
Honestly, I don't really care for classical music too much, but Beethoven's work, especially after his hearing got worse and worse, are just admirable. Although I did a presentation about him myself for school (and having heard several of them, because I live in Germany...), this video was still interesting, as it went deeper into Beethoven's familytree. And now I also know what Beethoven actually means!
His father never hit him. He was rude, yelled at him, woke him in the middle of the night to play, but that's it. There's also the hypothesis that he had a child with Josephine, who's the best candidate to be the immortal beloved from the letter. She had a daughter, called Minona when she was separated from her husband, and the child has been conceived around the time she and Beethoven were in Prague at the same time. If you take a look at Minona's photography, you can see a resemblance with Ludwig. Nothing has confirmed this, but Josephine never told anyone who the father was, not even Minona (or she never wanted to tell anyone either).
Do are there any Einstein’s left
One of his sons was a somewhat famous engineer in America. One of his grandsons owned (no kidding) a used car business in California. In the 1980s, he had a real TV ad where he actually said, 'It doesn't take an Einstein to know that this is a great deal!". The NY Times had that story in an article about the Einsteins.
1:32 honestly I thought you were gonna say "tone deaf"
Over 10 mins what is this
I have a question, how did Zhongguo become China?
Srsly I have no idea.
Simple answer, after the Xin dynasty. Pronounced "chin".
go to Xidnaf's channel. In short, China comes indirectly from the ruling Qing dynasty. The empires of China never really had a name and since they were the most important polity they called themselves the middle empire (middle as in between Heaven and Earth, as in, close to Heaven).
Zhongguo means "middle realm", however the western name comes from the Xin/Chin Dynasty
*The Qin dynasty (221-206BC) and the Qing (Manchu, 1644-1911) are two completely different empires!*
China is Porcelain.
Porcelain come from Zhongguo.
China from Zhongguo
Ignorant white people call the land China because it's where China come from.
0:49 My surname is *van den Akker,* it's Dutch and yes I'm from Holland 🇳🇱. _van den = of the_
Akker = farmfield. But it sounds cooler when saying it meant Acre... like large peace of land. That's what I used to say, when I lived in the USA. HAHA... Oh well... what's a name...
My real surnam is Rachach wich is acient portugese for fisher or fisherman
Actually Beethoven's Choral Fantasia predates the Choral Symphony and some of the phrasing reflects the musical structure. I am not sure if it was a full orchestra, but it is easy to find here on YOutube and is worth a listen.
3.7k views, no dislikes! That’s awesome dude!
Are there any Mozarts left?
Nice music choice with his Moonlight Sonata
9:49 whats the name of the music?
The song in the background is moonlight sonata 1st movement
His family came from the Mechelen area, in modern day Belgium.
It seems Beethoven ancestors and of spring were either musiscans or members of the army hence the name and the meaning of his surname involes war and peace, precisely farms and military.
1:53 What?
4:44 did he really die in 1826 or do you want to check that??
(He died March 26th 1827!)
Now that I know the meaning of Beethoven's name I can imagine Dwight Schrute loving him.
4:32 "... but for the time was completely unheard of." Interesting turn of phrase, 12tone.
Music has been rebooted to "drum" music but with new technological elements i will guess if we cloned Beethoven today he would be an electronic experimental musician like many German and European modern composers.It took like 300 years of classical music to get a Bethoven maybe we will see a modern Beethoven for our modern music in 250 years who knows everything is happening so fast these days.
This is the crossover my musician/linguist heart longed for!
According to a Belgian newspaper we still have a couple 100 Van Beethoven's living in Belgium today... So if you are just looking for people with the same name... You can still find them in the country of his grandfather, Belgium... Back then it was the Netherlands... But now its of course Belgium.
I think justin bieber is somehow connected to beethoven
that momment when you push a video to 10 minutes and 1 second but it get's demonitized
So the question now is "where did he get that hair?"
2:03 oh come on! Why did you have to make the text so small, that I had to pause and press my eyeball against the screen to read what is written?!
I can relate to the Beethoven’s. I’m literally the only one who can carry on my family’s last name. It’s in good hands lol
Jesse Hawkes
So I'm guessing you're either the only child or you have a sister/multiple sisters that are all married?
That's sort of sad really..
Two sisters, my uncle never had children of his own. Yes sirree, it's all me
Jesse Hawkes
Oof I missed a few possibilities lol
That's a lot of responsibility, I suppose.
The last one in your line! There is likely many of your Hawkes relatives still around, but you will likely share common ancestors from the tenth century onwards...earlier for aristocracy.
I meant in relation to the actual origin of your Hawkes line which won't predate the 10th century when the Normans started to instigate surnames in Britain. They already had surnames as had the SAxon chiefs. I am not sure how surnames started elsewhere in Europe and I am assuming your surname is British! Apologies.
Cool Video!
You know "I'll be Bach" seems to run in Sebastians family ... found over 1000 in US ...
what’s the soundtrack name?
Are there any Leopolds left?(the one who made the Congo free state that lived in Belgium)
There is
It's called my violin. Its name is Beethoven.
Damm that’s seriously cool I wish I could make this kind of videos
Soooo.... the last Beethoven was also called Karl :'D
8:20 Hermine is also the german name for Hermione from the Harry Potter Books/Movies!
I’d ask for a study into the descendants of Jan Vermeer, the Dutch Renaissance painter, but as I am one of them it wouldn’t be terribly interesting. He has a lot of descendants.
As a historian of science i cant wait to see this episode for the darwin family. I would be happy to help patrick with the research if needed
hey i was actually thinking this question today! what a coincidence
Beethoven dedicated “Eroica” (aka “Symphony No.3”) to Napoleon, only to become disenchanted with the guy, later
Love the background music
Who composed it?
Guess
1:39 *more like 12 many times*
You should do are there any mussolinis left
what about the other relatives that dont have the name?
I was born in a palace in old vienna, danubian waltses my llulubyes, my father was yohann with great moustaches my mother maria with emerld eyes. Bethovens parents were maria and Yohann and had a child named anna. Could this been anne of green gables fairytail parents
(His 'pastorale' symphony is my all-time favourite of his. The 9th is too overblown ( then again I feel the same way about La Gioconda))
I have tried to look up if there are any Bachs left or if there are any Mozarts left and while Bach's family tree is super complicated, Mozart's is simple and it quickly leads me to an answer of inconclusive. Yeah, the only lineage I can find is that towards Leopold Mozart, who isn't to say that there are possibly people related to Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's great grandfather living today that still bear the last name Mozart? And when I look up something along the lines of "Does anyone have the last name Mozart that is living" and surprisingly, I get quite a few results. Though these people certainly aren't descended from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, they could still be distant, distant relatives of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. Or it could be that there have been multiple separate lineages with the last name of Mozart, who knows?
“Too many Karls…” * Cue the Rick & Carl Grimes meme *
".....one of the first Rock and Roll stars...Ludwig van Beethoven." I endose this affirmation!👍👍
I have read many answers to that question, with the ine dated furthest back was in the 27th century bc. So, it would seem that cogs were a thing when beethoven was alive
I was always taught von was used by the nobility and van was used by those who were not.
Beethoven actually died at the age of 56 on March 26, 1827 rather than 1826 as states in the video.
Married and had no children?? what did they use? the withdrawal method? How does a married couple - considering all things in working order - avoid pregnancy, in the absence of effective or reliable contraceptive methods?
Beetroot, farms... OGM DWIGHT!!!
@4:46- major problem with that fact. Might want to fix his death date :)
But do any of his relatives still exist? Even if they don't carry the name anymore?
The name was Ludwig von Beethoven in stead of Ludwig van Beethoven. "von" is German, "van" is Dutch. Translated it would be "from".
In the beginning he says Presley, Lennin, and franklin. Who's franklin?
Aretha Franklin?
Benjamin Franklin. He's one of the founding fathers of the United States.
Hayden is my name, being Haydn with an e is my game
Nice episode. On a different NOTE (get it?) are there any Tchaikovsky's left?
I found my favorite RUclipsr crossover.
Are there any Moctezumas (the Aztec king) left?
I thought this video would be about present day deaf musicians. Despite the misunderstanding, I enjoyed the video very much.
Famous in war from beetroot farms? He attacked his enemies with FlOWeR PoWEr