@@dan3886If you rewatch the scene where Max is shot, (which, by the way, is the first, last and only scene of Max) Hector makes a homophobic joke when he’s pissing in the pool. Stating they (looking at Gus and Max) like what they see.
@@Kickex I think he once said to Walt, the one time he invited him over, that his Family was away or something. I think it was a lie. I'm not sure, but I think Gus might have been gay. There really aren't any scenes where he interacts with Women in a social setting, so we have no idea his orientation it may not be anything that needs to be touched on. But he was certainly very close to both of his cooks that he trained himself, more with the first. Doesn't make him Gay but it's not impossible. As for Gale, when he got killed, I wonder if he viewed it as a repeat of his past mistakes. That could be why he seemed to make killing Walter very personal and not just business. It's also possible he intended to get rid of Jesse all along as soon as he trained a new chemist. We'll never know what he intended of course but it is fun to speculate.
@@wotmait_1115 Sure bud, go ahead and ignore the vast majority of my comment and miss the whole point. I never said he was 100% gay, I expressed a suspicion that he was, listed my reasons, most of which you ignored it seems, and then I said there's no definitive proof of it, and maybe we don't need to know, but it's possible. That's all...Glad I could clear that up for you.
Gus's reaction to his partner being killed basically sobbing on the ground poolside Gus looked just like Walt did after losing Hank. Walt clearly wasn't into Hank in a gay way, he was crying about losing family. The kid Gus sent through college was probably the closest thing to family Gus had since Chile.
Also after rewatching the show i noticed that hector made a gay joke after peeing in the pool. He most likely knew that gus and his partner were gay but it went over my head first time i watched that scene
I want to see a spin-off that is all about Gus's backstory. It will be like an 80s Miami Vice but with breaking bad writing. From his childhood to when he imigrates (smuggles) into america. Like, was Gus a big gang leader in or army leader in Chille? Maybe president? I'd like to see his rise to that and everything up to when his friend got shot back in the 80's/90's by Don Eldonido Please make a spin-off show that explores gus's backstory chnronologically.
Heh, always thought Guss' folks would come back to seek vengeance on his killers. Kind of sad that the story of Gus died with him, no one from his past showed up or influenced anything post-mortem.
There's a series in this because not only is there this clue but there's also Max's very odd line that Gus rescued him from the Santiago slums. A possibly repressed military man under Pinochet deciding to leave Chile and start a drug business north with a guy from the slums is really rich fodder for a series!
Is it just me but I always assumed Gus was gay.When his partner was executed I got the sense that the bond between them was even greater than just bussiness or friendship and had a romantic component.
Whether romantic or not, it seems clear he loved Max in some way. The fountain that he had built for him and scholarships he arranged were part of that.
I always imagined Gus as a secret police type back in Chile. His character seems right at home tossing the family members of political dissidents from a helicopter.
In fact we can be pretty sure that Gus was in his actual home. Why? Because it was the same place that Hank found Gus returning to everyday without fail on the gps tracking. Gus spoke of a special dish that he could not make often because his children wouldn't eat it. Also his home has toys strewn about. Gus's home was also watched by Mike, particularly when Walt was sitting outside Gus' home with intent on killing him. The reason we don't see Gus's family is a typical issue around casting.
Gus is dead and we still don't know much about him..he was probably one of the more interesting characters in Breaking Bad, also..the guy who played him was great.
Of course you would be upset.However there was something about the way he looked at the guy that signified love.That being said I will concede that may have been an indication of a very close friendship instead of romance.
How so? And for your information, Vince Gilligan himself refused to either confirm or deny the possibility of them being a couple, leaving it open for interpretation.
A Gus Fring prequel should be made. Even after the conclusion of Better Call Saul, Gus’s past was in Chile still left unexplored. Seeing how Giancarlo is now too old to play Gus at this stage in his life, they should cast a younger actor and bring Giancarlo back for perhaps a cameo after he’s older at some point during either Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul.
When you cast a family member of a major character, which Gus was, you almost always have to give them something to do. Since Gus' family is immaterial to the story, none were cast. Nevertheless Gus alludes to them and there is no suggestion that he was lying.
I believe it was to foreshadow Walter White's numbness to death at the end of season 4 and halfway through season 5. If you rewatch the Crazy 8 plot in season 1, Walter and early Gus are very similar.
right! He could no longer have Victor wandering around his facilities. Fringe didn't kill him JUST to send a message. That being said, he used his having to dispose of Victor to send a message nevertheless.
I would like to see a prequel series of 😊 Gus & his Chilean backstory o as a army general during the Chilean revolution & befriending all the Nazis from WW2 that were literally hiding out in South America after war that all started huge secret colonies there that are actually still there to this very day & not just Chile , where Gus was born & grew up & joined the military & government at but also cuz they colonized Chile , Argentina & Paraguay & parts of Brazil & Uruguay under the protection of those governments!!!!! It only makes sense that the German owner of Madrigal was atleast a second generation Nazi that got involved with the Chilean government & dictator at the time in some fashion that he met Gus while Gus was a general in the Chilean army back then!!!! Call that a reach but honestly , Gus talks to him about it in Better Call Saul about their time together back then fighting together in South America so either he was a German tourist that randomly got involved with the revolution going on at that time or he was a Nazi colonizer that was born there & already had ties with the Chilean government hence how he met Gus !!!! After all is Don Eladio says to Gus the day he meets him : "The only reason you're alive & he is not is because I know who u are !!!! But just remember that ur not in Chile anymore" Him saying those words to Gus lets us know as a audience that Gus was just as ruthless if not more ruthless than the Cartels in Mexico hence why Eladio feels forced to demonstrate his own dominance to remind Gus that he is in Mexico now & that the Cartel is the only badasses that call any of shots in that part of the world!!!!
That's idiotic. It doesn't matter how YOU PERSONALLY perceive the character. Being gay isn't a sign of weakness. Interpreting something in your own way is fine, but projecting your homophobia onto a character which is left open to interpretation is pathetic. Being gay didn't make Omar Little any less menacing in The Wire, for example.
Always assumed Gus' backstory was erased after Don Eladio killed Max as one of his steps to become the cautious man we got to know. Gus mentioned to Walt how the kids don't eat his Chilean food so i always thought Eladio held his family over his head, not some Pinochet connections...
it's funny you say that. found this online before ' Series creator Vince Gilligan has chosen to leave the relationship ambiguous, but has said that if you were to infer this about their relationship, you "wouldn't be wrong."
I heard that conversation too. Tio starts out by saying "No I do not like him." Also Tio makes a reference to the filthy south Americans, an ethnic slur common in Mexico.
SPOILER (well maybe) But IMO Gus' back story is absolutely crucial to the new season (5)! In the flashback episode Don Edalio tells Gus that the only reason he doesn't kill him too is because he knows who Gus is in Colombia. The cartel sniper emphasizes this when he refuses to kill Gus too. Walter White killed Gus. The Colombians are coming for him. The machine gun from Season 5 Episode 1's cold scene is protection from them. I highly doubt Walt would go out blazing against Hank. But that's me.
My Gus, ah guess is, that the Chile connection could turn out quite "German" - there's evidence, and I can't wait to see the flashbacks: blogDOTjensprausnitzDOTcom/2011/breaking-bad/
I personally think Gus was a general who tried to lead a rebellion. There's a line in 4x08 which I though was unnecessary unless he was against Pinochet. Gus says to the DEA "The Pinochet government was notorious for their human rights violations". And that line struck me because it didn't seem like something a person on Pinochet's side would say.
Vince Gilligan who created the character says that Gus character is not homosexual. However he says that individual people can see his characters any way they care to interpret them.
People develop bonds with human beings that are not sexual in nature. Any war film focusing on the bond between soldiers who fight side by side should clue you in on that.
Then we are in agreement. Gus was horrified by his friend's death which he was partly responsible for by trying to manipulate Eladio. You are correct about the ambiguity of Gus and Max's relationship. There most likely will never be confirmation either way (maybe in an interview after the series ends). You may be incorrect about Gus having a family. He most likely doesn't have one. Whenever he met someone he adjusted his character and setting. The "family man" story was just to manipulate Walt.
@KoRMaK1 Oh I didnt hear that right the first time. Yes! please let us see what his time rising to be and then his time served with the Army! How do you spell it? Peneche Army?
Wrong, What Vince Gilligan actually said was this, , “It’s open to interpretation. It’s Whatever the audience wants it to be.” i.e. the audience is free to interpret the characters whichever way they want, and people can infer whatever they want.
The actor who plays Fringe thinks that some people come to this conclusion because Fringes business partner was a good looking guy. If he had been ugly or very plain, no one would come to that conclusion. That being said, who wouldn't become upset if their friend has his brains blown out during a meeting that YOU plotted to set up?
Gus did have very strong feelings around family however, I.e. his speech to Walt about what a man is and a mans responsibility to his family. Not the sentiments one would expect from a possible homosexual whose lifestyle is at odds and in rebellion against family and traditional manhood. Nothing about Gus suggests homosexuality.
Dudeeee I was just saying what if Gus is that dictators son and that's why he wasn't killed when Max was shot. Back then cartel ruled mostly the north . Why gus doesn't have a birth certificate because his identify needed to be secret
Totally agree.In every other sense he was one of the best characters on this show.But the idea of him being Chilean,or from the Chilean military just did'nt ring true,given the racial make up of that country.However because Esposto's portrayal was so authoritative and the part was so well written I was able to ignore this minor foible.
Its a sad commentary when people decide that every emotional relationship must have a sexual component. If that were so then war films featuring men sobbing over their friends deaths must also bespeak homosexual ties. What a sick society we have today where sex is considered the prime motivator for any deep relationship.
Nope, Vince Gilligan said that such a relationship was not intended in anyway. However he allows that each viewer can make his own assumptions. That being said, Gus has children and alludes to them in the episode where he invites Walt to dinner. There are toys seen throughout the home. That Gus' family is not present is not surprising, as it would seem unlikely that he would introduce his children to his criminal cohorts.
He was horrified because HE/GUScaused the event/meeting to take place, he wrangled for the meeting, it was his manipulations that brought about the meeting, therefore he was responsible for his friends death. The writers have not identified Max as Gus lover, only his friend. and "partner" at that time in history had NO sexual implications. Gilligan cannot categorically state that Gus was not gay because to do so would seem homophobic. Gus has children and speaks of family as being EVERYTHING.
The family man "story" may well have been just that. But there is no confirmation on that theory. Nevertheless, there is no real reason to presume Gus and Max had a sexual relationship. No reason what so ever. For Vince Gilligan to answer clearly on the matter would be unpolitical these days. So one can understand his vague response. Trying to identify Gus and other fictional characters as gay smacks of the same desperation of trying to label past notables as homosexual when no evidence exists.
As a Gus fan it would disgust me to think of him tounge kissin young dudes. I don't interpret him that way. I think of his relationship to the kid as student and teacher/ father-son, like Walt and Jesse's relationship. The kid broke Gus into the business just as Jesse had small connections in the drug business.
He wasn't horrified by the violence. He was horrified because that was his lover.
Also after he got over the shock, what did he do next? He lunged immidietly at Hector, despite that he had a gun.
damn how did you figure out they were lovers 10 years ago?😮 I never got the implication until better call saul
@@dan3886If you rewatch the scene where Max is shot, (which, by the way, is the first, last and only scene of Max) Hector makes a homophobic joke when he’s pissing in the pool. Stating they (looking at Gus and Max) like what they see.
the biggest loose end in the serie
And wasn’t there something about him having kids...??
@@Kickex I think he once said to Walt, the one time he invited him over, that his Family was away or something. I think it was a lie. I'm not sure, but I think Gus might have been gay. There really aren't any scenes where he interacts with Women in a social setting, so we have no idea his orientation it may not be anything that needs to be touched on. But he was certainly very close to both of his cooks that he trained himself, more with the first. Doesn't make him Gay but it's not impossible. As for Gale, when he got killed, I wonder if he viewed it as a repeat of his past mistakes. That could be why he seemed to make killing Walter very personal and not just business. It's also possible he intended to get rid of Jesse all along as soon as he trained a new chemist. We'll never know what he intended of course but it is fun to speculate.
@@michaelheath2866 yea when he does not have his kids in house during a business meeting he must be gay
@@wotmait_1115 Sure bud, go ahead and ignore the vast majority of my comment and miss the whole point. I never said he was 100% gay, I expressed a suspicion that he was, listed my reasons, most of which you ignored it seems, and then I said there's no definitive proof of it, and maybe we don't need to know, but it's possible. That's all...Glad I could clear that up for you.
@@michaelheath2866 people like gus see family as weaknest, if he has family, his family would totally on other country
He didn't kill victor just to make a point, it was also because people had seen him when Gale was killed.
I badly wish that episode would have happened. I suspected Gus was ex military and hope now they might touch on it one day in Better call Saul.
They’re definitely touching on it now lmao, ss6 will reveal his background
They need to make "Volvo" to explore Gus' past
@@JR-jh4rehopefully they decide to do a gus spin off series/movie
not a soldier, he shots like a basic trained guy
Did they?@@JR-jh4re
still waiting for Better Call Saul to address what Gus did in Santiago. They keep referring to it, but never reveal what he actually did.
Gus's reaction to his partner being killed basically sobbing on the ground poolside Gus looked just like Walt did after losing Hank. Walt clearly wasn't into Hank in a gay way, he was crying about losing family. The kid Gus sent through college was probably the closest thing to family Gus had since Chile.
@@beepain6005 creators confirmed gus to be gay
@@totallynotlilly no, they did not
@@shronkler1994 yes they did. gould went on a podcast and confirmed it (i replied with a link but yt took it down so youd have to google it)
@@totallynotlilly not only that, but Giancarlo Esposito himself had said that he was under the impression they were lovers
Also after rewatching the show i noticed that hector made a gay joke after peeing in the pool. He most likely knew that gus and his partner were gay but it went over my head first time i watched that scene
fantastic actor
We need movie for story Gus in Chile
You played Gus absolutely perfectly!!! :D You're a legend!
So much can be speculated from Gus's character. I certainly hope the Saul Goodman prequel will explain a little bit more about Gus.
Gustavo was apart of the Chilean Gustapo
CNI
Lol
Great pun!
Means bubkes. Like Stalin, Khruschev and later Zelensky Pinochet used to turn on his own. Ask Michelle Bachelett. She knows all about it.
I would absolutely love to see more on Gus' story.
We need a Gustsvo Origins series
I want to see a spin-off that is all about Gus's backstory. It will be like an 80s Miami Vice but with breaking bad writing. From his childhood to when he imigrates (smuggles) into america.
Like, was Gus a big gang leader in or army leader in Chille? Maybe president? I'd like to see his rise to that and everything up to when his friend got shot back in the 80's/90's by Don Eldonido
Please make a spin-off show that explores gus's backstory chnronologically.
Pinochet's son went into self imposed exile and became a narcotics dealer in the US. I'm pretty sure that's the main inspiration for Gus.
@@barryschalkwijk9388 9 years Ago dude
@@Ace-dv5ce and now we're here together, isn't it amazing?
@@barryschalkwijk9388 It is, although i just found this
I bet that one dislike came from Don Hector LOL
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!!!!!!
breaking bad is amazing.
Heh, always thought Guss' folks would come back to seek vengeance on his killers. Kind of sad that the story of Gus died with him, no one from his past showed up or influenced anything post-mortem.
There's a series in this because not only is there this clue but there's also Max's very odd line that Gus rescued him from the Santiago slums. A possibly repressed military man under Pinochet deciding to leave Chile and start a drug business north with a guy from the slums is really rich fodder for a series!
we didn't :-(
We can only hope for something in Better Call Saul
We didn't. Great series though!
He was Chile's number one Pollo frier
Is it just me but I always assumed Gus was gay.When his partner was executed I got the sense that the bond between them was even greater than just bussiness or friendship and had a romantic component.
Oh boy! 2022 called, you're right!
Whether romantic or not, it seems clear he loved Max in some way. The fountain that he had built for him and scholarships he arranged were part of that.
or he was close to him
like walt was to hank
I always imagined Gus as a secret police type back in Chile. His character seems right at home tossing the family members of political dissidents from a helicopter.
In fact we can be pretty sure that Gus was in his actual home. Why? Because it was the same place that Hank found Gus returning to everyday without fail on the gps tracking. Gus spoke of a special dish that he could not make often because his children wouldn't eat it. Also his home has toys strewn about. Gus's home was also watched by Mike, particularly when Walt was sitting outside Gus' home with intent on killing him. The reason we don't see Gus's family is a typical issue around casting.
I think it's best if we don't learn anything about his past, that way it stays as mysterious as the character himself.
Gus is dead and we still don't know much about him..he was probably one of the more interesting characters in Breaking Bad, also..the guy who played him was great.
Now we'll hopefully find out in BCS.
Awesome, I love this guy
i would love a book or even a new show just about gus.... everything, that happened before he met walt ang jesse.
The smudge on the back of that laptop is driving me nuts
After bcs. We want Gustavo Fring
Of course you would be upset.However there was something about the way he looked at the guy that signified love.That being said I will concede that may have been an indication of a very close friendship instead of romance.
How so?
And for your information, Vince Gilligan himself refused to either confirm or deny the possibility of them being a couple, leaving it open for interpretation.
We need the Rise/Past of Gus spin-off real quick
A Gus Fring prequel should be made. Even after the conclusion of Better Call Saul, Gus’s past was in Chile still left unexplored. Seeing how Giancarlo is now too old to play Gus at this stage in his life, they should cast a younger actor and bring Giancarlo back for perhaps a cameo after he’s older at some point during either Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul.
Be super cool if they made a prequel all about Gus before he made it to the US.
Super actor! Keep up the great work! :)
Yeah!
This is what I imagine Donald Glover will look like when he's older.
Gus doesnt have family because Cartel would kill them
When you cast a family member of a major character, which Gus was, you almost always have to give them something to do. Since Gus' family is immaterial to the story, none were cast. Nevertheless Gus alludes to them and there is no suggestion that he was lying.
I think, if they were ever to do another prequel series after Better Call Saul, it'd have to be based on Gus.
I believe it was to foreshadow Walter White's numbness to death at the end of season 4 and halfway through season 5. If you rewatch the Crazy 8 plot in season 1, Walter and early Gus are very similar.
Damn, if you're right, props dude, imma go check it out
right! He could no longer have Victor wandering around his facilities. Fringe didn't kill him JUST to send a message. That being said, he used his having to dispose of Victor to send a message nevertheless.
but thats not the case
vince said he killed many people before
I would like to see a prequel series of 😊 Gus & his Chilean backstory o as a army general during the Chilean revolution & befriending all the Nazis from WW2 that were literally hiding out in South America after war that all started huge secret colonies there that are actually still there to this very day & not just Chile , where Gus was born & grew up & joined the military & government at but also cuz they colonized Chile , Argentina & Paraguay & parts of Brazil & Uruguay under the protection of those governments!!!!! It only makes sense that the German owner of Madrigal was atleast a second generation Nazi that got involved with the Chilean government & dictator at the time in some fashion that he met Gus while Gus was a general in the Chilean army back then!!!! Call that a reach but honestly , Gus talks to him about it in Better Call Saul about their time together back then fighting together in South America so either he was a German tourist that randomly got involved with the revolution going on at that time or he was a Nazi colonizer that was born there & already had ties with the Chilean government hence how he met Gus !!!!
After all is Don Eladio says to Gus the day he meets him : "The only reason you're alive & he is not is because I know who u are !!!! But just remember that ur not in Chile anymore"
Him saying those words to Gus lets us know as a audience that Gus was just as ruthless if not more ruthless than the Cartels in Mexico hence why Eladio feels forced to demonstrate his own dominance to remind Gus that he is in Mexico now & that the Cartel is the only badasses that call any of shots in that part of the world!!!!
That's idiotic. It doesn't matter how YOU PERSONALLY perceive the character. Being gay isn't a sign of weakness.
Interpreting something in your own way is fine, but projecting your homophobia onto a character which is left open to interpretation is pathetic. Being gay didn't make Omar Little any less menacing in The Wire, for example.
What is this in reference to?
Always assumed Gus' backstory was erased after Don Eladio killed Max as one of his steps to become the cautious man we got to know. Gus mentioned to Walt how the kids don't eat his Chilean food so i always thought Eladio held his family over his head, not some Pinochet connections...
There are certainly no "heroes" under Pinochet though lol
here after BCS s5e1, so curious if they'll expand on Gus' history in Santiago as Lalo alludes to
what? he was horrified because the dude was either his very close friend or more likely his lover
I had assumed he was somebody's son or something like that
it's funny you say that. found this online before ' Series creator Vince Gilligan has chosen to leave the relationship ambiguous, but has said that if you were to infer this about their relationship, you "wouldn't be wrong."
I heard that conversation too. Tio starts out by saying "No I do not like him."
Also Tio makes a reference to the filthy south Americans, an ethnic slur common in Mexico.
SPOILER (well maybe) But IMO Gus' back story is absolutely crucial to the new season (5)! In the flashback episode Don Edalio tells Gus that the only reason he doesn't kill him too is because he knows who Gus is in Colombia. The cartel sniper emphasizes this when he refuses to kill Gus too. Walter White killed Gus. The Colombians are coming for him. The machine gun from Season 5 Episode 1's cold scene is protection from them. I highly doubt Walt would go out blazing against Hank. But that's me.
Its 5 years late, but gus is originally from chile
who was were in Chile*
My Gus, ah guess is, that the Chile connection could turn out quite "German" - there's evidence, and I can't wait to see the flashbacks: blogDOTjensprausnitzDOTcom/2011/breaking-bad/
I personally think Gus was a general who tried to lead a rebellion. There's a line in 4x08 which I though was unnecessary unless he was against Pinochet. Gus says to the DEA "The Pinochet government was notorious for their human rights violations". And that line struck me because it didn't seem like something a person on Pinochet's side would say.
Vince Gilligan who created the character says that Gus character is not homosexual.
However he says that individual people can see his characters any way they care to interpret them.
People develop bonds with human beings that are not sexual in nature. Any war film focusing on the bond between soldiers who fight side by side should clue you in on that.
Then we are in agreement. Gus was horrified by his friend's death which he was partly responsible for by trying to manipulate Eladio. You are correct about the ambiguity of Gus and Max's relationship. There most likely will never be confirmation either way (maybe in an interview after the series ends).
You may be incorrect about Gus having a family. He most likely doesn't have one. Whenever he met someone he adjusted his character and setting. The "family man" story was just to manipulate Walt.
Or maybe he was just an innocent victim like Michelle Bachelett's father. Or Gonzalo Lira. Oops, wrong dictator.
@KoRMaK1 Oh I didnt hear that right the first time. Yes! please let us see what his time rising to be and then his time served with the Army!
How do you spell it? Peneche Army?
Pinochet
Wrong, What Vince Gilligan actually said was this, , “It’s open to interpretation. It’s Whatever the audience wants it to be.” i.e. the audience is free to interpret the characters whichever way they want, and people can infer whatever they want.
The actor who plays Fringe thinks that some people come to this conclusion because Fringes business partner was a good looking guy. If he had been ugly or very plain, no one would come to that conclusion.
That being said, who wouldn't become upset if their friend has his brains blown out during a meeting that YOU plotted to set up?
Gus did have very strong feelings around family however, I.e. his speech to Walt about what a man is and a mans responsibility to his family. Not the sentiments one would expect from a possible homosexual whose lifestyle is at odds and in rebellion against family and traditional manhood. Nothing about Gus suggests homosexuality.
Dudeeee I was just saying what if Gus is that dictators son and that's why he wasn't killed when Max was shot. Back then cartel ruled mostly the north . Why gus doesn't have a birth certificate because his identify needed to be secret
Pincochet
Yeah, but does Giancarlo was made truly aware of the past of Gus in details? I wonder out of curiosity
Totally agree.In every other sense he was one of the best characters on this show.But the idea of him being Chilean,or from the Chilean military just did'nt ring true,given the racial make up of that country.However because Esposto's portrayal was so authoritative and the part was so well written I was able to ignore this minor foible.
What the hell happened in santiago de Chile? Why Lalo Salamanca said y lo que pasó en Santiago eso también era negocio?
was Gus and Maximo gay partners
He was gay no doubt. I just hope in the final 8 episodes they give some sort of insight into who Gus really was.
Its a sad commentary when people decide that every emotional relationship must have a sexual component.
If that were so then war films featuring men sobbing over their friends deaths must also bespeak homosexual ties. What a sick society we have today where sex is considered the prime motivator for any deep relationship.
Nope, Vince Gilligan said that such a relationship was not intended in anyway. However he allows that each viewer can make his own assumptions. That being said, Gus has children and alludes to them in the episode where he invites Walt to dinner. There are toys seen throughout the home. That Gus' family is not present is not surprising, as it would seem unlikely that he would introduce his children to his criminal cohorts.
He was horrified because HE/GUScaused the event/meeting to take place, he wrangled for the meeting, it was his manipulations that brought about the meeting, therefore he was responsible for his friends death. The writers have not identified Max as Gus lover, only his friend. and "partner" at that time in history had NO sexual implications. Gilligan cannot categorically state that Gus was not gay because to do so would seem homophobic. Gus has children and speaks of family as being EVERYTHING.
The family man "story" may well have been just that. But there is no confirmation on that theory. Nevertheless, there is no real reason to presume Gus and Max had a sexual relationship. No reason what so ever. For Vince Gilligan to answer clearly on the matter would be unpolitical these days. So one can understand his vague response. Trying to identify Gus and other fictional characters as gay smacks of the same desperation of trying to label past notables as homosexual when no evidence exists.
Just get this straight: The kid he partnered with was NOT his lover. Gus was NOT GAY! That would totally shatter his mystique in the show.
As a Gus fan it would disgust me to think of him tounge kissin young dudes. I don't interpret him that way. I think of his relationship to the kid as student and teacher/ father-son, like Walt and Jesse's relationship. The kid broke Gus into the business just as Jesse had small connections in the drug business.