This is my preferred technique. I like to think of my hands as a base of a triangle and the slide is the top. I want to be pushing inwards towards the top of the triangle.
Two things that I noticed, Matt has a tendency to hunch down, potentially leading him to shoot low because he's dipping his head down to get on target. I've always liked the approach of presenting at full eye level. It feels like you're going to shoot high, but I've found for me that it eliminated me shooting low. The other thing, in a more defensive aspect, staging the trigger is not very important. That's more of a competition thing. Under pressure, you're more likely going to squeeze a round off prematurely than to actually help. Sidenote, the "horseshoe" is my preferred technique. I like to think of my hands as a base of a triangle and the slide is the top. I want to be pushing inwards towards the top of the triangle. When I shoot my CZ P07, it makes it practically not move at all. My .2 cents.
Something that helped me fix my accuracy almost instantly was not gripping too tight with my shooting hand so that my trigger finger was tight against the grip. I find that if I use the tip/pad of my trigger finger on the trigger and let it come out from the trigger guard a bit then i shoot much more accurately and consistently
Came back to say that after trying the horseshoe method during dry fire practice, the results are promising indeed. Despite having regular high scores on the Mantis, I saw a lot of issues appear to be resolved with that technique. Looking back, I've normally had my best results while focusing control toward the top of the frame, behind the trigger. Looking forward to giving it a practical test at my pin match tomorrow😎
Definitely interested in the horseshoe thought. I've not heard that before, or, at least, not stated in such a readily visualized manner. Have to try that out next time. Pistol is definitely not my confidence point... competent is not the same as confident.
I like Jason's idea. I learned using the "twist a jar top" with my grip but the horseshoe seems to make more sense. One difference for me though is that it works better for me if I'm trying to _make_ the horseshoe rather than "open" it up. Maybe I missed the analogy but "unbending" the horse shoe makes my palms drift away from the grip.
It’s 1:19AM for me right now as I’m watching the video and reading the comments as well I hear Jason give the horseshoe analogy and I started dry firing my Canik TP9 SC Elite. My first handgun I’ve shot it 2 times now and I’ve noticed every time I shot I’ve had to reset my grip on it. And I gotta say if felt way more comfortable gripping it with the analogy Jason made. I definitely gotta try that in the range now 🙌🏽. Loving the information.
If you're a right handed shooter, low and left is typical. If you're like me, you're pulling the gun slightly when you pull the trigger. When I figured out my trigger manipulation that problem stopped immediately.
I would say that a little less stiff arm would help. Many of my prospective newbies either are limp wrist.arm or the opposite stiff arms. Good demonstration and refresher.
I have tried the horseshoe tip in dry fire. A little awkward at first but I like it. I have always been a push/pull guy with locked elbows. I can't wait to get to the range and work on my horseshoe grip with more relaxed arms. Thanks, and we need Jason and Aaron in the intros. Matt, I'm 65 so I love you reppin for the older guys....but please lose the hat.😂
I believe we pay too little attention to ammunition performance in low/no light situations. The fireball created by a shot, especially from a short barreled pistol, is not noticed in daylight - which is when most people practice. But at night it can potentially blind you, making follow-up shots that much more difficult. Since you guys take on all kinds of topics, I would love to see some serious comparisons of SD ammo performance at night.
I just learned I've been gripping wrong. I hold the gun toght with my shooting hand (left) then my off hand hold the the left hand. I didn't know about pushing/pull or left right pulling.
Have you guys ever done research on the best shooting courses? Now that I am becoming more consistent and getting better grouping with a few different types of drills, I would like to do a few courses. I would love to find a weekend course or two as well in the future.
YES, unless you’re rich and can buy ammo with no money worries dry firing helps you learn your trigger,work on your grip and build muscle memory so you shoot better instead of just slapping the trigger
Short answer is yes dry fire does help. But it depends on what are you doing in your dry fire practice and what equipment are you using. Dry fire can help at; overall efficiency in mechanics, manual of arms, trigger press, draw, grip, trigger reset, malfunction clearing, presentation, etc... It will have limited help with flinching or overall pre-ignition movement of the barrel which is a problem with shooters of various skill levels.
I think it's just empty. When he tap and racks, nothing happens, probably just because the slide is locked back. Also, nothing ejected, so that's what I'm going with.
First off, get the halo sights off of the guns! Anyone can shoot a pistol with an electronic aiming device, kids learn n video games all the time. Second, make and open-sight video - the end!
The main issue i see in Matt’s shooting is his off hand grip. His right hand is waaayyy to low on the grip, it looks like he’s shooting almost one handed with a slight support from the right.
Jason - I like the horseshoe analogy. Never heard that before. Works well in dry fire so I will be testing it on the range. Appreciate it!!
I grabbed a pistol and immediately tried gripping like that. Felt good. Definitely going to try that next range day!
This is my preferred technique. I like to think of my hands as a base of a triangle and the slide is the top. I want to be pushing inwards towards the top of the triangle.
@@MikoFiticus Stop giving away the secrets man lol
Hey to you guy. This is from a left handed person. All people need to also learn to use both hands. Very good job.
Been watching a ton of videos on grip lately and that's the first time i heard it put that way. It felt great on the gun when I tried it.
Two things that I noticed, Matt has a tendency to hunch down, potentially leading him to shoot low because he's dipping his head down to get on target. I've always liked the approach of presenting at full eye level. It feels like you're going to shoot high, but I've found for me that it eliminated me shooting low.
The other thing, in a more defensive aspect, staging the trigger is not very important. That's more of a competition thing. Under pressure, you're more likely going to squeeze a round off prematurely than to actually help.
Sidenote, the "horseshoe" is my preferred technique. I like to think of my hands as a base of a triangle and the slide is the top. I want to be pushing inwards towards the top of the triangle. When I shoot my CZ P07, it makes it practically not move at all.
My .2 cents.
Something that helped me fix my accuracy almost instantly was not gripping too tight with my shooting hand so that my trigger finger was tight against the grip. I find that if I use the tip/pad of my trigger finger on the trigger and let it come out from the trigger guard a bit then i shoot much more accurately and consistently
Can we get Jason and Aaron in the intro cinematic? They've more than earned their spots
I've been thinking that. I was gonna ask when are they gonna update the intro lol
Facts
Matt you’re shooting it wrong, use your other hand😂jk
Came back to say that after trying the horseshoe method during dry fire practice, the results are promising indeed. Despite having regular high scores on the Mantis, I saw a lot of issues appear to be resolved with that technique. Looking back, I've normally had my best results while focusing control toward the top of the frame, behind the trigger. Looking forward to giving it a practical test at my pin match tomorrow😎
Love the horseshoe tip, keeping it in mind instantly made my grip stronger
Definitely interested in the horseshoe thought. I've not heard that before, or, at least, not stated in such a readily visualized manner. Have to try that out next time. Pistol is definitely not my confidence point... competent is not the same as confident.
I like Jason's idea. I learned using the "twist a jar top" with my grip but the horseshoe seems to make more sense. One difference for me though is that it works better for me if I'm trying to _make_ the horseshoe rather than "open" it up. Maybe I missed the analogy but "unbending" the horse shoe makes my palms drift away from the grip.
Grip!! Matters a lot. You can slap that trigger all day long like les claypool if your grip is strong
Not really.. It depends on the triggers weight, travel and reset
It’s 1:19AM for me right now as I’m watching the video and reading the comments as well I hear Jason give the horseshoe analogy and I started dry firing my Canik TP9 SC Elite. My first handgun I’ve shot it 2 times now and I’ve noticed every time I shot I’ve had to reset my grip on it. And I gotta say if felt way more comfortable gripping it with the analogy Jason made. I definitely gotta try that in the range now 🙌🏽. Loving the information.
Never heard of the horse shoe method and I will definitely try that at the range
Giving the horse shoe a go next time, first time I heard about that grip. I am a fairly new shooter shooting low and left.
If you're a right handed shooter, low and left is typical. If you're like me, you're pulling the gun slightly when you pull the trigger. When I figured out my trigger manipulation that problem stopped immediately.
What is the holster Jason is using and do they make them for a glock 27
Great video. Thanks for the reminder on some things and the new tips and lessons on others!
I would say that a little less stiff arm would help. Many of my prospective newbies either are limp wrist.arm or the opposite stiff arms.
Good demonstration and refresher.
The #1 thing that helps me shoot better: Cheaper ammo!
I have tried the horseshoe tip in dry fire. A little awkward at first but I like it. I have always been a push/pull guy with locked elbows. I can't wait to get to the range and work on my horseshoe grip with more relaxed arms. Thanks, and we need Jason and Aaron in the intros. Matt, I'm 65 so I love you reppin for the older guys....but please lose the hat.😂
Another Great Video , Thanks for Sharing Guys 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
If only ammo was cheaper
Jason- would it be possible… to do a in depth vid on your grip technique?
Nice looking Zev :)
I believe we pay too little attention to ammunition performance in low/no light situations. The fireball created by a shot, especially from a short barreled pistol, is not noticed in daylight - which is when most people practice. But at night it can potentially blind you, making follow-up shots that much more difficult. Since you guys take on all kinds of topics, I would love to see some serious comparisons of SD ammo performance at night.
I just learned I've been gripping wrong. I hold the gun toght with my shooting hand (left) then my off hand hold the the left hand. I didn't know about pushing/pull or left right pulling.
Have you guys ever done research on the best shooting courses? Now that I am becoming more consistent and getting better grouping with a few different types of drills, I would like to do a few courses. I would love to find a weekend course or two as well in the future.
Slapping a bit. Good hits though. He's used to shooting that way. Maybe slowing down and working the trigger. Thanks guys. Always useful information.
Time to practice my double taps!
Nice video guys, learned some things.
Jason is so high on the beaver tail he must get occasional slide bite.
Jason's holster?
As in rotating hands out or inward for the horseshoe....
Does dry fire really make a difference
YES, unless you’re rich and can buy ammo with no money worries dry firing helps you learn your trigger,work on your grip and build muscle memory so you shoot better instead of just slapping the trigger
Short answer is yes dry fire does help.
But it depends on what are you doing in your dry fire practice and what equipment are you using. Dry fire can help at; overall efficiency in mechanics, manual of arms, trigger press, draw, grip, trigger reset, malfunction clearing, presentation, etc... It will have limited help with flinching or overall pre-ignition movement of the barrel which is a problem with shooters of various skill levels.
I really does. Helps build the mind/body connection, plus you can do it anywhere, even while watching youtube videos
@@lando7756 have you heard of mantis dry firing? Kinda wanna check them out for dry fire just to see if it would improve
@@santanagamingcinema wow seems there’s more ups then downs if any downs at all
Great vid, guys!
Love to see it guys
It might help if you move up closer to the target, like point blank.
Hand grenades and horseshoes? 😁
That opening would have been even funnier if Jason had also missed every shot.
Great video
Concentrate.
I’m just happy we got a break from Kaya.
More of this kinda content would be based
whats the name of the intro song?
This will stir the pot: Rotated Palm Squeeze vs. Thumbs Forward. FIGHT!
DECENT !!!
Did i just see a Glock have a malfunction??? 🤯😅
I think it's just empty. When he tap and racks, nothing happens, probably just because the slide is locked back. Also, nothing ejected, so that's what I'm going with.
It's probably the heavy red dod,or off brand mag, or the fact that gun tobers never seem to clean their guns 😊
@@ieronmandan5dot def isn’t heavy, I just rant dry. But that reload though 😉😎
1st thing ur doing wrong is not shooting competitions.
Post Videos about hand grenades
All these videos always telling me how I’m shooting wrong..nobody telling me what I’m doing right :(
8:35 Too much trigger slap. You gotta find your reset
He’s left handed … main issue!
I'm left handed and qualified expert
@@williamwofford2503 says whom.
@@socomarylandaqua2549 the US ARMY
@@williamwofford2503 Thank you for your service, but we all know the army can’t shoot… just kidding.
Full auto....or it's wrong.
Do you have a full auto ?
Huge disagreements here. Follow competitive shooters like Stoeger and learn from the best.
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First off, get the halo sights off of the guns! Anyone can shoot a pistol with an electronic aiming device, kids learn n video games all the time. Second, make and open-sight video - the end!
The main issue i see in Matt’s shooting is his off hand grip. His right hand is waaayyy to low on the grip, it looks like he’s shooting almost one handed with a slight support from the right.
Don't be left handed would help too...
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