I lived many years in both countries and speak both italian and spanish fluently, and have actually had jobs in both countries: Here is what I observed: Friendliness of the people: Italy wins big time. Spain is riddled with xenophobia though it can be convert. I don't want to generalize, there are different types of people in Spain, but the bad experiences are extremely high, especially the longer you stay there. Most people who live in spain from the other countries usually form their own communities and don't mix with the Spanish. It is very strange to see. For example there are communities("colonies") of English, communities/colonies of Germans, Dutch, and communities of Northern African(Algerian, Moroccan) and communities of South/central American. Each of these different communities speak there respective languages and go to stores ran by their own people, etc. It is very strange indeed. To the contrary in Italy, it is more that you "become" Italian and they accept you. Also many Spanish(not everyone) will just stop talking to you and just rudely walk off if you speak with an accent. To the contrary Italians, will help you with the language and want you to learn Beauty/ living/etc : Italy wins hands down, there is no place like it the world. Spain has beaches and sun, but also lots of arid desert. The heat in summer in spain can be unbearable. The buildings in Spain are generally newer than Italy, thus it can be mistaken that it is "better", but the build quality is Spain is extremely poor. In Spain, most buildings are demolished and rebuilt every 40 to 50 years(due to such poor build quality and poor upkeep). Italy to the contrary does an extremely exceptional job of conserving older buildings. Also FTW, recently in Spain(look at the news) there have been huge demonstrations(mini riots) against foreigners coming to Spain, which alludes to the underlying xenophobia. If you go to Spain, the best is to work for a foreign company. working for a Spanish company is extremely low pay, but also being a foriegner in a Spanish company means you will be paid less than natives. ...It is just the way it is. I have worked for 3 different Spanish companies and attest it happened in all 3. If you are retiring or are working for a foreign country, and want only hot sun and beach, and like the desert climate, Spain is for you, and you will probably be living sheltered in one of the communities depending on your nationality. If you are not retiring, and are not semi-rich, and don't have a job in a foreign company I would recommend Italy most definitely. Being on your own in Spain is a lot scarier than being on your own in Italy.
jajajaj what's wrong with you? xdd I see that you have spent a lot of time hating Spain (I have seen some of your comments on this post). What trauma do you have with Spain? Maybe a Spanish woman broke your heart?
@@Daniel_MeyerI have lived in Spain for my whole life and I can confirm that this place is an absolute sh#thole I don't know how it was here 300 years ago when they were in their glory days but I can assure you that isn't now. Unless you are rich you should exit this place asap. It's already bad living here as an average Spaniard, I don't even want to know what it feels like being a foreigner + not rich. Ask anyone that actually lives here, they all think this place sucks, the government sucks, the pay sucks, the weather especially sucks, I shall never understand those who want to live on a 24/7 hot grill. And that's not all most places here look like dumps, I mean you could take pictures of several locations here and people would probably think it's Afghanistan.
I own two homes in Spain on the Costa Blanca. I love Italy and I am of Italian descent with dual citizenship, but it was a better choice for Airbnb in Spain.
I can see why, I feel in Italy you have some coastal towns, then Milan and Rome. Next project I'm doing in Italy has a strong summer season buy weak winter
Italy can sometimes be even colder than the UK in winter! But very hot summers. Italy’s climate I think is quite extreme both ways kind of like the way New York is aswell. Where as Spain generally doesn’t get below 15 Celsius in the winter.
That's not true, spain has the most diverse ecosystems out of any other country in Europe hence its diversity in temperature and landscapes, not to mention that Spain is bigger than Italy. From Madrid and up, winter can get as cold as - 20 in winter like in my family's village in Castilla y León. In southern Spain however that might be more difficult to find but less than 15 degrees is fairly easy to reach.
what ? in the inner Castille they have up to minus 20 Celsius in the Winter....not below 15 Celsius is for Southern Mediterranean Coast or the Canary Islands
If you focus on pasta vs pasta Italy wins. If you focus on REAL food and product, Spain wins. Best food in the world, but not for kids menu (pizza pasta😅)
España , su gastronomía,está en entre las 3 mejores. China, Francia y España. No comer en bares y restaurantes turísticos. La mejor comida....en casa de los españoles 😂
Last fall my wife and I spent 6 weeks traveling around both Spain and Italy, so I can add something to this discussion. First we landed in Madrid in late August. It was very hot. 95 degrees and not much cooler at night. But Madrid is a marvelous city with lots to do and see, great museums, great food, flamenco shows, music....everything functions well. We took a high speed train to Segovia which was a wonderful day trip. Then to Sicily. We got very lost the first day trying to drive from Catania to Buccheri, the town where my wife, who is Italian, spent much of her childhood. We followed a road for miles in the middle of the night which ended up a dead end. Buccheri is a small mountain town, very pretty, quiet except for the bells (see previous post), good food, nice people. Driving there is quite a challenge. Small narrow streets, one way. These are medieval cities not built for cars. But one can walk everywhere so who needs a car. From there to Rome. Rome is a mess. Graffiti and garbage, traffic jams, no parking. Expensive. Then to Florence (beautiful) and Gubbio (wonderful small town). Then Milano and a town outside call Vigevano where my wife's sister and family live. Moderate size town known for shoe making. Large population of immigrants from the middle east. Fairly expensive. We took a train into Milano (very large city, crowded) one day and on the way back they put us all off the train and we waited for three hours in the middle of the night for a bus to take us into Vigevano. What a fiasco. Then back to Spain. Algeciras, Sevilla. A lot of tourism in Sevilla but still a wonderful place. Good food. So all in all Spain is run better (getting a phone in Spain was a lot easier than Italy), more affordable but Italy has better food. I don't know personally about the healthcare in either place but I can tell you that the Italian system is highly bureaucratic and there are a lot of complaints. Spain might be better as there are more expats living there. I would say, generally speaking, Italy, especially in the larger cities, is more chaotic, but the smaller towns are quiet, especially up in the mountains. Spain in general functions better.
Rome is a gigantic city compared to many other European capitals, but the good thing is that most of the tourist attractions, ancient ruins, and architectural masterpieces are concentrated in the historic center and are within walking distance. Leave the car and walk to really explore it. Rome is an open-air museum and is affordable for anyone. There is so much art and beauty in every corner that you now find a piece of history in the most unthinkable places. In how many cities you've been to can you say you've had free access to all the National Museums in the area every first Sunday of the month? Monuments like the Colosseum, the Roman Forum, the Baths of Caracalla, the Borghese Gallery etc... completely free. I can understand your complaints about traffic and expensive parking (private garages cost between 10€ and 20€ per day), but other than that, visiting Rome costs nothing. You can literally enter a church completely free of charge and admire the likes of Michelangelo and Caravaggio's works. I have an endless list of works and galleries to visit in Rome at no cost, if you are interested. And despite, as you say, the city is full of graffiti in quaint neighborhoods like Trastevere or in the suburbs, despite being chaotic and a bit dirty because of the millions of inhabitants and millions of tourists who tread its streets every day, it remains magical. Rome was the cradle of modern civilization and there is nothing comparable to it. Yes, maybe nowadays it has organizational problems, but I challenge anyone to carry out renovations in the Eternal City or administer an area as large as Rome. Traffic is always there because there are "Restricted Traffic Zones" and "Green Areas" where in Rome no one can enter unless you have a working license or an environmentally sustainable car. So logically, those who don't fall into these categories, in order to avoid a fine, have to circumnavigate the historic center and its pedestrian area and wait in line at the traffic lights like everyone else. Equally for public transportation, excavations to renovate the subways are going slowly as they continually find new priceless millennia-old relics hidden in the ground. That is the charm of Rome, there is an immortal city buried under our feet, the heart of the Roman Empire. How can you call it just "a mess"?
I’m from the US and my husband, kids and I visited Milan over a year ago in November. We were there several days. We liked the city. and had a great time. Best gelato store our whole Italy trip. Loved the risotto. So much to see and do. It reminded me of New York City. Lots of young people go there for the jobs so there are a lot of them and families with kids. The only downside was the frequency of days with bad air quality. But that’s true of all of the northern Italian cities unfortunately.
I started to watch yr channel interested in euro homes, from NY … Any euro homes in Spain? I thght of Italy, but I speak Spanish…thinking of buying now for the future …retirement.
Brother I love your videos and your content. I am about to retire from the US Military. Currently I am stationed in Europe. Loving the vibe and the atmosphere in Europe. My Wife loves it too!!! Keep up the great work!!! 👍🏿💯
Spain is more similar to southern USA & more connected by flights etc.. more organized and more international.. / Italy is less connected and less Americanized..
Not sure if Portugal is on your radar but I’d be very curious for you to do a similar comparison between Spain and Portugal. I realize you may have no interest in Portugal so this might be wishful thinking on my part but maybe one day if you do also explore Portugal. Thanks!
I've considered Portugal but have never visited. I have a sweet spot for Brazil and the language, so I've been interested in knowing what life is like in Portugal. A lot has changed there over the years lately, but it's on my radar, maybe covering it next year
Si è dimenticato che l’Italia è una delle nazioni più importanti al mondo.. Oltre che per l’economia, l’appartenenza ai G7, la Nazione con più siti UNESCO, l’ alfabeto Latino usato dalle più importanti lingue mondiali, l’impero Romano, il Rinascimento, le opere d’arte, la musica, la scienza, la biodiversità ecc. ecc. L’autore di questo video deve informarsi meglio!!!
Grazie per la condivisione. L'Italia ha infatti un significato culturale, storico ed economico incredibilmente ricco, e i suoi contributi al mondo sono vasti e diversificati. Il video vuole fornire un confronto equilibrato tra Spagna e Italia dal mio punto di vista.
I’m a foreign medical student in Georgia 🇬🇪 and I’m planning on transferring to either Spain or Italy next year. Which one is the better option for me? Considering medical research and affordability. PS: I want to do my residency in the USA
Hello, we have a video that has gotten 6M views in 2 weeks and a few thousand emails. Right now we are going through them and replying in the order received with time we will get in touch and see. Which property and what's you're budget?
@@Karl__Pierre Scusami Karl...But a lot of people want to come to live in Italy and do not want to learn the language...It irks me when they say they will get by with Spanish....As you might have noticed...Very few people in Italy speak more than one language.....Do you live in Sicily?
@@Karl__Pierre Wise Choice...I lived in super BEAUTIFUL south Florida for 10 blissful years....Then I was "kidnapped" out of paradise and brought up here in Misery....ooooops...I meant Missouri...LOL
Please. A review that discusses countries that are favorable for dark-complexioned peoples vs those that exhibit negative attitudes. This is not a crazy question, other channels have done this but i respected your perspective that is why I asked you but if you want to pretend you don't understand the question then that is fine. Thank you for the information you have shared.-Spirit Woman@@Karl__Pierre
@@fletcherchristian6411 Good to know the Spanish and Portuguese countries don't have the same problems we have in the US. Its a problem here mostly in the south. The Northeast and west coast are better.
@@spiritwomanwarrior4211 I knew exactly what you meant. Unconscious bias is something that as people of colour we are well aware of! Time for us to boldly go where we want. Anyone with an issue? Their problemo!!! 🎉
If you're planning to work there, average wage can not be considered by itself. Before that, you compared cost of living, which is cheaper in Spain, so it's normal that wages would be lower there too. To be accurate, you have to combine cost and wages. For retirees, only cost of living is of importance.
My wife just brought up Greece. I was leaning towards Sicily because of the climate and affordability. However, Greece's climate would be the same. If costs are equal, or close to equal, I'd consider it. Your thoughts?
I have a special diet and it seems that Italy has a great network of "natural" grocers where most of the products I get here in the US I can get in Italy. I'm attempting to get my dual citizenship in Italy and trying to learn Italian (I wish I had learned from my grandfather who lived with us, but no one thought to let me learn Italian except for a few words here or there!) And the stupid thing I did was having moved to New Mexico 20+ years ago, I never took advantage of brushing up my high school Spanish and having so many Spanish-speaking people around me!
You mentioned that you were in healthcare. Does a US Medical Assistant or RN license transfer over to Italy? What if you are not fluent in Italian, could you still work in healthcare?
3:40 I can you tell you the average wage in Spain is NOT 1700€ it is between 900-1200€ if you are lucky. Those "official" numbers are not correct. I have lived there for more than a decade. Also the cheapest rent in Spain is 600 to 700€, so you will have about 500€ at most for electric, water, food. Most likely you will have to rent a room not an entire apartment in the case you don't have a foreign job or retirement.
¿Quién lo gana? Un reponedor a media jornada o un extra de camarero. El salario medio neto está sobre 1600 euros, vivirías en un barrio malo y con gente sin cualificación. El salario mínimo en España son 1360 euros al mes, nadie gana por debajo de eso y son camareros, dependientes y cajeros
@@Antonio-fm4md España está repleta de contratos basura, si realmente vives en España lo sabes. La gran mayoría no lleva a casa más de 1200 al mes, yo conozco a una auxiliar de enfermería que trabaja a jornada completa, y su salario está por debajo de eso, yo he trabajado de desarrollador de software y me llevaba a casa entre 1300 y 1400 trabajando para una compañía española, me cansé, encontré un trabajo para la unión europea y haciendo exactamente lo mismo con el mismo nivel de cualificaciones y me lleve 6000 a casa, además, conozco específicamente a 3 desarrollador de software españoles que se han mudado a los Estados Unidos debido a los pésimos sueldos de aquí, ellos no tienen ninguna intención de volver a España. Y otro que también se largó a Finlandia, está ahora trabajando para Ericcson y según él ni de broma vuelve aquí, de hecho los barrenderos ganan más que los desarrolladores de software aquí. Por favor basta de difundir mentiras.
@@deckard5pegasus673 Mentiras? Una auxiliar de enfermería es una auxiliar, no una enfermera, que también las hay, ni un médico, ni un jefe de equipo o encargada. Yo no digo que los sueldos sean altos, porque no lo son cuando comparas, pero que la gente gana 1000 euros es mentira. Un salario medio está de 25 a 30 euros, que son unos 1700-2000 netos al mes. Muy mala suerte tienes porque mi mejor amiga trabaja de ui/ux y gana 45.000 al año, dos amigos de project manager que están sobre los 42.000, otro amigo de mi grupo trabaja de facility manager y gana 48 y yo soy funcionario, gestor y gano 38.000... así que muy avispaos no estarías. Obvio que jamás vamos a cobrar 6000 limpios al mes, pero con cerca de 2500.. vivimos todos muy bien en España, y trabajos hay a patadas en estos rangos
This was great and spot on. One thing that you should at some point touch on, is how easy it is to get visas and residence cards in each country. Some places want so much info and others are like come on in.
I suggest one more category; noise and especially bells. We spent a couple weeks in a small village in Sicily last fall. Unfortunately it was right next to a church and not far from a school, both of which had bells. The church bells sounded every fifteen minutes, 24 hours a day. Louder and longer at certain hours like 8 am and noon. The school bells ring all day as well, louder at certain hours. Also, the church would broadcast music to whole town on Sunday. This despite the fact that no one went to this church. It was locked. Crazy.
@@Karl__PierreOne can get used to suffering through a lot, but who needs it. The church is really outdated in Italy, few people attend, and the bells are a kind of revenge.
Hi Karl, greetings from Washington DC. I love your videos, they are very informative! Would you make a video about the Costa Blanca (Spain) housing? My husband and I are federal employee but we want to move to Spain. We are very interested in Valencia and Alicante areas. Many thanks in advance. ❤
@@Karl__Pierre Italy has better taxes for foreign HNWI (some sort of flat tax or smth) while Spain doesn't have that. The channel Nomad Capitalist covers this
Karl Pierre, I want visit nature places in Colombia. Please list some places mentioned by Laura Londono, chef of OCI. Is difficult to learn the spellings of those places. I like doing fitness at Estadio Olympica complex and have explored Department Santander Parque Chicamocha & etc. ! I’d to visit many of the places that Laura has experienced on weekends ! Please list some. 😊
Italia es mas que españa en historia antigua,arte, arquitectura, musica, personajes historicos y religiosos. Y España a continuacion, y mejor en gastronomia y seguridad.
Y tampoco es mas segura, mira las estadisticas, tienen el mismo Crime Index y La Costa del Sol es una de las areas con mas crimenes violentos de Europa, busca las noticias de Interpol.
@@Karl__Pierre I know that Italy also uses a lot of seafood and fish in their pasta But i feel like not in the same amount like spain does. Just see the nationaldish from italy (pizza) and the nationaldish from spain (paella). I know not every paella is with seafood But the original is. Also Many spanish dishes only contain fish and seafood. In italy they east pasta to a lot. Pasta contains a lot of calories that seafood and fish doesnt 😊
@@asgerpetersen7936rice contains a lot of calories too 😂 Anyway, you're not obliged to eat pasta and pizza every day. I'm 100% italian and I eat pasta once a week and pizza once a month, even less, and I'm still alive... Oh, and I eat at least two servings of fish per week despite living in Lombardy.
@@asgerpetersen7936another Spanish ignorant who thinks Italians only eat pasta while their gastronomy is the best in the world, even though the world barely knows paella and tortillas.
I had been to Italy 🇮🇹 and Spain 🇪🇸 and both are good. Spain 🇪🇸 is more popular than Italy 🇮🇹 and Spain 🇪🇸 is catching up France 🇫🇷 as a most visited country in the world 🌎. I would say Barcelona is the city with the biggest amount of pickpockets in Europe 🇪🇺 followed by Paris, Rome, Prague, and Madrid.
Yea I think Italy is relying heavily on their Juy Sanguris to attract individuals of Italian ancestry to maintain the c ountry's economy seems to deteriorating. I would choose Italy just because I can obtain a passport there, food, culture, and some extent familial connections. I also dont want to raise kids of color in America because it is also going to shit too. BTW Italian is far better than Spanish food, not even close. Mexican and Cuban food is better than Spanish food.
What makes you thing that either Spain or Italy, or anywhere in the EU will accept you ? For sure you will have to obtain both residence and work permits. Both are very difficult to obtain. If your a multi millionaire or a brain surgeon then maybe. Otherwise your chances are extremely small.
@MENSA.lady2 ... hahahahahahahahahahhahahah that let's me know you don't know anything about marketing and the power of social media. I would bet that off my youtube alone I generate more than you do annually and youtube is far from my top income producer. In fact, I probably spend more maintaining my youtube channel and social media than you earn. Let that sink in for you. If you have an issue with me, it's more telling that the real issue is you and you're just projecting. All I do here is share information and try to encourage people to pursue their individual goals, only someone lost in their own life will try to critique that. The first thing you started with was this idea I wouldn't be accepted...where did that come from, your own doubtful mind, perhaps you feel unacceptable and must look at me and think the same... then the next comment was about being a multi-millionaire. Which I am and it's not that incredible to be one, I often feel I'm still much further behind than I would like to be. Other multimillionaire people would probably say the same and would never use that term as a solution to a problem because we don't look at ourselves that way. Most view themselves as problem solvers that know they can do whatever they'd like, but based on what you say I'd also guess earning above average money is another thing you haven't achieved so it seems mytical in your eyes. I am responding to this solely for the entertainment of optimistic people because I don't think my message is for you. For those of you reading this, this is the mentality of a person who would rather invest time trying to tear someone else down then build themselves to the person they wish they could be...please don't allow yourself on fall into such a state it could be irreparable.
@@Karl__Pierre You know, I liked you until you started shooting insults at this random commenter. RUclipsrs get all kinds of people commenting. It's better to ignore the weird ones; everyone else does. You cheapen yourself with such rude statements. Showing off how much of a "multi-millionaire" you are is also not classy at all.
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It will always be Spain for me. Planning to move there within the next 3-5 years. Right now I’m comfortable in Bogotá from Baltimore (US).
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Y ya hablas español amigo? O también quieres imponer el ingles como tus connacionales
I lived many years in both countries and speak both italian and spanish fluently, and have actually had jobs in both countries: Here is what I observed:
Friendliness of the people: Italy wins big time. Spain is riddled with xenophobia though it can be convert. I don't want to generalize, there are different types of people in Spain, but the bad experiences are extremely high, especially the longer you stay there. Most people who live in spain from the other countries usually form their own communities and don't mix with the Spanish. It is very strange to see. For example there are communities("colonies") of English, communities/colonies of Germans, Dutch, and communities of Northern African(Algerian, Moroccan) and communities of South/central American. Each of these different communities speak there respective languages and go to stores ran by their own people, etc. It is very strange indeed. To the contrary in Italy, it is more that you "become" Italian and they accept you. Also many Spanish(not everyone) will just stop talking to you and just rudely walk off if you speak with an accent. To the contrary Italians, will help you with the language and want you to learn
Beauty/ living/etc : Italy wins hands down, there is no place like it the world. Spain has beaches and sun, but also lots of arid desert. The heat in summer in spain can be unbearable. The buildings in Spain are generally newer than Italy, thus it can be mistaken that it is "better", but the build quality is Spain is extremely poor. In Spain, most buildings are demolished and rebuilt every 40 to 50 years(due to such poor build quality and poor upkeep). Italy to the contrary does an extremely exceptional job of conserving older buildings.
Also FTW, recently in Spain(look at the news) there have been huge demonstrations(mini riots) against foreigners coming to Spain, which alludes to the underlying xenophobia.
If you go to Spain, the best is to work for a foreign company. working for a Spanish company is extremely low pay, but also being a foriegner in a Spanish company means you will be paid less than natives. ...It is just the way it is. I have worked for 3 different Spanish companies and attest it happened in all 3.
If you are retiring or are working for a foreign country, and want only hot sun and beach, and like the desert climate, Spain is for you, and you will probably be living sheltered in one of the communities depending on your nationality.
If you are not retiring, and are not semi-rich, and don't have a job in a foreign company I would recommend Italy most definitely. Being on your own in Spain is a lot scarier than being on your own in Italy.
@deckard5pegasus673 thanks for adding to conversation with real world experiences
jajajaj what's wrong with you? xdd I see that you have spent a lot of time hating Spain (I have seen some of your comments on this post). What trauma do you have with Spain? Maybe a Spanish woman broke your heart?
@@Daniel_MeyerI have lived in Spain for my whole life and I can confirm that this place is an absolute sh#thole I don't know how it was here 300 years ago when they were in their glory days but I can assure you that isn't now. Unless you are rich you should exit this place asap. It's already bad living here as an average Spaniard, I don't even want to know what it feels like being a foreigner + not rich. Ask anyone that actually lives here, they all think this place sucks, the government sucks, the pay sucks, the weather especially sucks, I shall never understand those who want to live on a 24/7 hot grill. And that's not all most places here look like dumps, I mean you could take pictures of several locations here and people would probably think it's Afghanistan.
Bulgaria and Portugal would be a good to compare to these two countries.
I own two homes in Spain on the Costa Blanca. I love Italy and I am of Italian descent with dual citizenship, but it was a better choice for Airbnb in Spain.
I can see why, I feel in Italy you have some coastal towns, then Milan and Rome. Next project I'm doing in Italy has a strong summer season buy weak winter
My recommendation is Spain 😊
What do you like most about Spain?
Italy can sometimes be even colder than the UK in winter! But very hot summers. Italy’s climate I think is quite extreme both ways kind of like the way New York is aswell. Where as Spain generally doesn’t get below 15 Celsius in the winter.
That's not true, spain has the most diverse ecosystems out of any other country in Europe hence its diversity in temperature and landscapes, not to mention that Spain is bigger than Italy. From Madrid and up, winter can get as cold as - 20 in winter like in my family's village in Castilla y León. In southern Spain however that might be more difficult to find but less than 15 degrees is fairly easy to reach.
what ? in the inner Castille they have up to minus 20 Celsius in the Winter....not below 15 Celsius is for Southern Mediterranean Coast or the Canary Islands
If you focus on pasta vs pasta Italy wins. If you focus on REAL food and product, Spain wins. Best food in the world, but not for kids menu (pizza pasta😅)
Ask the world what they prefer, you don’t decide.
And no, almost nobody would say Spanish over Italian.
Ah I forgot: Spanish food is just paella vs paella.
Spanish food seems enticing, I'm sick of pasta
España , su gastronomía,está en entre las 3 mejores.
China, Francia y España.
No comer en bares y restaurantes turísticos.
La mejor comida....en casa de los españoles 😂
Last fall my wife and I spent 6 weeks traveling around both Spain and Italy, so I can add something to this discussion. First we landed in Madrid in late August. It was very hot. 95 degrees and not much cooler at night. But Madrid is a marvelous city with lots to do and see, great museums, great food, flamenco shows, music....everything functions well. We took a high speed train to Segovia which was a wonderful day trip. Then to Sicily. We got very lost the first day trying to drive from Catania to Buccheri, the town where my wife, who is Italian, spent much of her childhood. We followed a road for miles in the middle of the night which ended up a dead end. Buccheri is a small mountain town, very pretty, quiet except for the bells (see previous post), good food, nice people. Driving there is quite a challenge. Small narrow streets, one way. These are medieval cities not built for cars. But one can walk everywhere so who needs a car. From there to Rome. Rome is a mess. Graffiti and garbage, traffic jams, no parking. Expensive. Then to Florence (beautiful) and Gubbio (wonderful small town). Then Milano and a town outside call Vigevano where my wife's sister and family live. Moderate size town known for shoe making. Large population of immigrants from the middle east. Fairly expensive. We took a train into Milano (very large city, crowded) one day and on the way back they put us all off the train and we waited for three hours in the middle of the night for a bus to take us into Vigevano. What a fiasco. Then back to Spain. Algeciras, Sevilla. A lot of tourism in Sevilla but still a wonderful place. Good food. So all in all Spain is run better (getting a phone in Spain was a lot easier than Italy), more affordable but Italy has better food. I don't know personally about the healthcare in either place but I can tell you that the Italian system is highly bureaucratic and there are a lot of complaints. Spain might be better as there are more expats living there. I would say, generally speaking, Italy, especially in the larger cities, is more chaotic, but the smaller towns are quiet, especially up in the mountains. Spain in general functions better.
Thanks for sharing!
Praticamente hai elencato tutti i pregi spagnoli e difetti italiani. A “medieval cities not built for cars” è meglio smettere di leggere.
Rome is a gigantic city compared to many other European capitals, but the good thing is that most of the tourist attractions, ancient ruins, and architectural masterpieces are concentrated in the historic center and are within walking distance. Leave the car and walk to really explore it.
Rome is an open-air museum and is affordable for anyone. There is so much art and beauty in every corner that you now find a piece of history in the most unthinkable places.
In how many cities you've been to can you say you've had free access to all the National Museums in the area every first Sunday of the month? Monuments like the Colosseum, the Roman Forum, the Baths of Caracalla, the Borghese Gallery etc... completely free.
I can understand your complaints about traffic and expensive parking (private garages cost between 10€ and 20€ per day), but other than that, visiting Rome costs nothing.
You can literally enter a church completely free of charge and admire the likes of Michelangelo and Caravaggio's works. I have an endless list of works and galleries to visit in Rome at no cost, if you are interested.
And despite, as you say, the city is full of graffiti in quaint neighborhoods like Trastevere or in the suburbs, despite being chaotic and a bit dirty because of the millions of inhabitants and millions of tourists who tread its streets every day, it remains magical.
Rome was the cradle of modern civilization and there is nothing comparable to it.
Yes, maybe nowadays it has organizational problems, but I challenge anyone to carry out renovations in the Eternal City or administer an area as large as Rome. Traffic is always there because there are "Restricted Traffic Zones" and "Green Areas" where in Rome no one can enter unless you have a working license or an environmentally sustainable car. So logically, those who don't fall into these categories, in order to avoid a fine, have to circumnavigate the historic center and its pedestrian area and wait in line at the traffic lights like everyone else.
Equally for public transportation, excavations to renovate the subways are going slowly as they continually find new priceless millennia-old relics hidden in the ground.
That is the charm of Rome, there is an immortal city buried under our feet, the heart of the Roman Empire.
How can you call it just "a mess"?
@@mariachiaraargentina4003tourist vs living there. Big difference
I’m from the US and my husband, kids and I visited Milan over a year ago in November. We were there several days. We liked the city. and had a great time. Best gelato store our whole Italy trip. Loved the risotto. So much to see and do. It reminded me of New York City. Lots of young people go there for the jobs so there are a lot of them and families with kids. The only downside was the frequency of days with bad air quality. But that’s true of all of the northern Italian cities unfortunately.
The comparison between Spain and Italy was outstanding.
Thanks for watching! Was there one that stood out more for you?
@@Karl__Pierre The only one that I watched was this one.
I started to watch yr channel interested in euro homes, from NY …
Any euro homes in Spain? I thght of Italy, but I speak Spanish…thinking of buying now for the future …retirement.
Yes they have them if you watch my series on Spain I show some houses from $5000-38,000
Brother I love your videos and your content. I am about to retire from the US Military. Currently I am stationed in Europe. Loving the vibe and the atmosphere in Europe. My Wife loves it too!!! Keep up the great work!!! 👍🏿💯
Thank you and go for it
Hi there. Where are you thinking?
@@BobGuilbert
Granada, Spain 🇪🇸
Italian food and friendliness hands down!!!
Yup
We are in tropea, Italy and we love this sleepy jewel of the Mediterranean
Nice
Italy us not an option eny more. Meloni is in Power!!!
Would you prefer Spain?
Spain is more similar to southern USA & more connected by flights etc.. more organized and more international.. / Italy is less connected and less Americanized..
Agreed
Italy for me
Why?
Great videos! Great info!! Thanks.
Thank you
Not sure if Portugal is on your radar but I’d be very curious for you to do a similar comparison between Spain and Portugal. I realize you may have no interest in Portugal so this might be wishful thinking on my part but maybe one day if you do also explore Portugal. Thanks!
I've considered Portugal but have never visited. I have a sweet spot for Brazil and the language, so I've been interested in knowing what life is like in Portugal. A lot has changed there over the years lately, but it's on my radar, maybe covering it next year
SPAIN
Thanks for sharing!
Informative and worth watching. I'll definitely share this video.
Thank you
Si è dimenticato che l’Italia è una delle nazioni più importanti al mondo.. Oltre che per l’economia, l’appartenenza ai G7, la Nazione con più siti UNESCO, l’ alfabeto Latino usato dalle più importanti lingue mondiali, l’impero Romano, il Rinascimento, le opere d’arte, la musica, la scienza, la biodiversità ecc. ecc. L’autore di questo video deve informarsi meglio!!!
Grazie per la condivisione. L'Italia ha infatti un significato culturale, storico ed economico incredibilmente ricco, e i suoi contributi al mondo sono vasti e diversificati. Il video vuole fornire un confronto equilibrato tra Spagna e Italia dal mio punto di vista.
For the love of God do not come to Spain, its a tourist trap.
Todos los que hayan vivido o sigan vivendo aqui lo saben.
Why do you say that?
I’m a foreign medical student in Georgia 🇬🇪 and I’m planning on transferring to either Spain or Italy next year. Which one is the better option for me? Considering medical research and affordability. PS: I want to do my residency in the USA
I would say Spain. Having the Spanish language set will be useful as nearly 1/4 of the US speaks Spanish.
Literally biting my nails every time you were about to give your ratings!😂
Blessings from San Juan
Puerto Rico...
Hahahaha funny
If you like traffic lights and absurd (low) speed limits Spain is the place to go
@@alessiopatron5894 lol slower life.
@@Karl__Pierre extremely slow😄
spain
Why did you pick Spain?
i have send many massages that i want to buy cheaper house in italy so that u can help me but no response
Hello, we have a video that has gotten 6M views in 2 weeks and a few thousand emails. Right now we are going through them and replying in the order received with time we will get in touch and see. Which property and what's you're budget?
Very well explained😊
Thanks
If you are planning to move to Italy...learn Italian....we do not abla espanol......
Yes, learning Italian will help to make the experience richer if moving to Italy
@@Karl__Pierre Scusami Karl...But a lot of people want to come to live in Italy and do not want to learn the language...It irks me when they say they will get by with Spanish....As you might have noticed...Very few people in Italy speak more than one language.....Do you live in Sicily?
@charlie20256 no I live in Florida. I would never recommend anyone move to a country and not learn the language.
@@Karl__Pierre Wise Choice...I lived in super BEAUTIFUL south Florida for 10 blissful years....Then I was "kidnapped" out of paradise and brought up here in Misery....ooooops...I meant Missouri...LOL
@@charlie20256 oh man
Please do a review of different countries for people of color.
I review what I review for all people. I don't even know what it means to review a country for people of color.
Please. A review that discusses countries that are favorable for dark-complexioned peoples vs those that exhibit negative attitudes. This is not a crazy question, other channels have done this but i respected your perspective that is why I asked you but if you want to pretend you don't understand the question then that is fine. Thank you for the information you have shared.-Spirit Woman@@Karl__Pierre
@@fletcherchristian6411 Good to know the Spanish and Portuguese countries don't have the same problems we have in the US. Its a problem here mostly in the south. The Northeast and west coast are better.
@@spiritwomanwarrior4211😂😂😂😂😂
@@spiritwomanwarrior4211 I knew exactly what you meant. Unconscious bias is something that as people of colour we are well aware of! Time for us to boldly go where we want. Anyone with an issue? Their problemo!!! 🎉
I’m living in Hawaii Honolulu trouble in paradise 😮 my heart said Spain . Better health care system. But Italy always be my lover as well ❤
Thanks for sharing!
If you're planning to work there, average wage can not be considered by itself. Before that, you compared cost of living, which is cheaper in Spain, so it's normal that wages would be lower there too. To be accurate, you have to combine cost and wages. For retirees, only cost of living is of importance.
@@ivo4357 thanks
My wife just brought up Greece. I was leaning towards Sicily because of the climate and affordability. However, Greece's climate would be the same. If costs are equal, or close to equal, I'd consider it. Your thoughts?
I think the cost of living in Sicily is lower. Ultimately you should visit both spend 3 months there and see which is more your speed
Buying a house in Greece is a challenge, negotiations can take weeks and they may still walk away.
@@ballsflying how is this unique to greece?
I have a special diet and it seems that Italy has a great network of "natural" grocers where most of the products I get here in the US I can get in Italy. I'm attempting to get my dual citizenship in Italy and trying to learn Italian (I wish I had learned from my grandfather who lived with us, but no one thought to let me learn Italian except for a few words here or there!) And the stupid thing I did was having moved to New Mexico 20+ years ago, I never took advantage of brushing up my high school Spanish and having so many Spanish-speaking people around me!
Thanks for sharing
Spanish is more popular around the world, but Italian seems easier to pronounce. I would give a point to Italy.
Thanks for sharing!
You mentioned that you were in healthcare. Does a US Medical Assistant or RN license transfer over to Italy? What if you are not fluent in Italian, could you still work in healthcare?
The RN education might but you most likely will need to test.
3:40 I can you tell you the average wage in Spain is NOT 1700€ it is between 900-1200€ if you are lucky. Those "official" numbers are not correct. I have lived there for more than a decade. Also the cheapest rent in Spain is 600 to 700€, so you will have about 500€ at most for electric, water, food. Most likely you will have to rent a room not an entire apartment in the case you don't have a foreign job or retirement.
¿Quién lo gana? Un reponedor a media jornada o un extra de camarero. El salario medio neto está sobre 1600 euros, vivirías en un barrio malo y con gente sin cualificación. El salario mínimo en España son 1360 euros al mes, nadie gana por debajo de eso y son camareros, dependientes y cajeros
@@Antonio-fm4md España está repleta de contratos basura, si realmente vives en España lo sabes. La gran mayoría no lleva a casa más de 1200 al mes, yo conozco a una auxiliar de enfermería que trabaja a jornada completa, y su salario está por debajo de eso, yo he trabajado de desarrollador de software y me llevaba a casa entre 1300 y 1400 trabajando para una compañía española, me cansé, encontré un trabajo para la unión europea y haciendo exactamente lo mismo con el mismo nivel de cualificaciones y me lleve 6000 a casa, además, conozco específicamente a 3 desarrollador de software españoles que se han mudado a los Estados Unidos debido a los pésimos sueldos de aquí, ellos no tienen ninguna intención de volver a España. Y otro que también se largó a Finlandia, está ahora trabajando para Ericcson y según él ni de broma vuelve aquí, de hecho los barrenderos ganan más que los desarrolladores de software aquí. Por favor basta de difundir mentiras.
@@deckard5pegasus673 Mentiras? Una auxiliar de enfermería es una auxiliar, no una enfermera, que también las hay, ni un médico, ni un jefe de equipo o encargada. Yo no digo que los sueldos sean altos, porque no lo son cuando comparas, pero que la gente gana 1000 euros es mentira. Un salario medio está de 25 a 30 euros, que son unos 1700-2000 netos al mes. Muy mala suerte tienes porque mi mejor amiga trabaja de ui/ux y gana 45.000 al año, dos amigos de project manager que están sobre los 42.000, otro amigo de mi grupo trabaja de facility manager y gana 48 y yo soy funcionario, gestor y gano 38.000... así que muy avispaos no estarías. Obvio que jamás vamos a cobrar 6000 limpios al mes, pero con cerca de 2500.. vivimos todos muy bien en España, y trabajos hay a patadas en estos rangos
Por cierto mi hermana es profesora y gana sobre 1900 limpios, 14 pagas, esta es la realidad tb... Tú cuentas la tuya
@@Antonio-fm4md Es decir, después de 5 años de carrera y unos 2 años de oposiciones, gana casi como un barrendero. Tiene sentido.
This was great and spot on. One thing that you should at some point touch on, is how easy it is to get visas and residence cards in each country. Some places want so much info and others are like come on in.
Good point!
I suggest one more category; noise and especially bells. We spent a couple weeks in a small village in Sicily last fall. Unfortunately it was right next to a church and not far from a school, both of which had bells. The church bells sounded every fifteen minutes, 24 hours a day. Louder and longer at certain hours like 8 am and noon. The school bells ring all day as well, louder at certain hours. Also, the church would broadcast music to whole town on Sunday. This despite the fact that no one went to this church. It was locked. Crazy.
Haha the bells, eventually they become background noise and you get used to.
@@Karl__PierreOne can get used to suffering through a lot, but who needs it. The church is really outdated in Italy, few people attend, and the bells are a kind of revenge.
@@andrewx7806 LoL!
Enjoy, it's a Catholic country don't be so entitled or uptight
where do you live? I’ll bet your not right next to a church and school with bells ringing every fifteen minutes 24/7. Yes. Entitled to sleep.
Hi Karl, greetings from Washington DC. I love your videos, they are very informative! Would you make a video about the Costa Blanca (Spain) housing? My husband and I are federal employee but we want to move to Spain. We are very interested in Valencia and Alicante areas. Many thanks in advance. ❤
I've covered pego and Oliva and Valencia have you see those videos?
Thank you for the video and info :)
I mean no disrespect but are you able to slow down when you speak? Your cadence is very fast....
At times
Where is cost of living lower, has better taxes?
Hear my take at 1:40
@@Karl__Pierre Italy has better taxes for foreign HNWI (some sort of flat tax or smth) while Spain doesn't have that. The channel Nomad Capitalist covers this
I am in favor of them withdrawing in Italy.
Withdrawing what?
@@Karl__Pierre The translator does these things. I mean I'd rather they go to Italy.
I don't agree
That's the beauty of the world...we have our opinions and can choose what's best for self.
Wow thank you ! I found this video to be quite helpful. Very informative
Glad it was helpful!
Where in southern Italy would you recommend?
I like Sicily. For city life Catania, if you like the countryside I like my town Mussomeli
Both great countries. I want to visit the Balkans. Croatia looks very special
It's nice ...my issue is the language
@@Karl__Pierre Most Croatians speak English and Italian as second and third languages
Karl Pierre, I want visit nature places in Colombia. Please list some places mentioned by Laura Londono, chef of OCI. Is difficult to learn the spellings of those places. I like doing fitness at Estadio Olympica complex and have explored Department Santander Parque Chicamocha & etc. ! I’d to visit many of the places that Laura has experienced on weekends ! Please list some. 😊
Santa Fe De Antioquia, El Salto Del Buey
Muchos gracias!
Va be ma mussumeli ....😂
Haha
Italia es mas que españa en historia antigua,arte, arquitectura, musica, personajes historicos y religiosos.
Y España a continuacion, y mejor en gastronomia y seguridad.
Yes, thanks for sharing
La gastronomia esp es basura, no bromees.
Y tampoco es mas segura, mira las estadisticas, tienen el mismo Crime Index y La Costa del Sol es una de las areas con mas crimenes violentos de Europa, busca las noticias de Interpol.
That is a great comparison!
Thanks
An amazing video👍
Thank you 👍
Would say that spanish food is much more healthy than italian.
Why would you say that?
@@Karl__Pierre I know that Italy also uses a lot of seafood and fish in their pasta But i feel like not in the same amount like spain does. Just see the nationaldish from italy (pizza) and the nationaldish from spain (paella). I know not every paella is with seafood But the original is. Also Many spanish dishes only contain fish and seafood. In italy they east pasta to a lot. Pasta contains a lot of calories that seafood and fish doesnt 😊
@@asgerpetersen7936rice contains a lot of calories too 😂
Anyway, you're not obliged to eat pasta and pizza every day.
I'm 100% italian and I eat pasta once a week and pizza once a month, even less, and I'm still alive...
Oh, and I eat at least two servings of fish per week despite living in Lombardy.
@@asgerpetersen7936another Spanish ignorant who thinks Italians only eat pasta while their gastronomy is the best in the world, even though the world barely knows paella and tortillas.
I would not
always interesting thank you.
You're welcome and thanks for the feedback
Great comparison. I am favoring Spain as well, but not up against Italy, more against Colombia
Against Colombia I can do a comparison video
I love it here in Bogota
@@Karl__Pierre spain vs Columbia would be great! I enjoy your videos! I'm making the change to one of these soon :)
Have you ever been to colombia
I had been to Italy 🇮🇹 and Spain 🇪🇸 and both are good. Spain 🇪🇸 is more popular than Italy 🇮🇹 and Spain 🇪🇸 is catching up France 🇫🇷 as a most visited country in the world 🌎. I would say Barcelona is the city with the biggest amount of pickpockets in Europe 🇪🇺 followed by Paris, Rome, Prague, and Madrid.
Thanks for sharing!
@@Karl__Pierre You welcome.
Yea I think Italy is relying heavily on their Juy Sanguris to attract individuals of Italian ancestry to maintain the c ountry's economy seems to deteriorating. I would choose Italy just because I can obtain a passport there, food, culture, and some extent familial connections. I also dont want to raise kids of color in America because it is also going to shit too. BTW Italian is far better than Spanish food, not even close. Mexican and Cuban food is better than Spanish food.
Thanks for sharing
What makes you thing that either Spain or Italy, or anywhere in the EU will accept you ?
For sure you will have to obtain both residence and work permits. Both are very difficult to obtain. If your a multi millionaire or a brain surgeon then maybe. Otherwise your chances are extremely small.
What makes you think they won't or that I'm not a multi-millionaire... comments like this confuse me as I literally can achieve anything I want.
@@Karl__Pierre If you have to use RUclips you have already failed.
@MENSA.lady2 ... hahahahahahahahahahhahahah that let's me know you don't know anything about marketing and the power of social media. I would bet that off my youtube alone I generate more than you do annually and youtube is far from my top income producer. In fact, I probably spend more maintaining my youtube channel and social media than you earn. Let that sink in for you.
If you have an issue with me, it's more telling that the real issue is you and you're just projecting. All I do here is share information and try to encourage people to pursue their individual goals, only someone lost in their own life will try to critique that. The first thing you started with was this idea I wouldn't be accepted...where did that come from, your own doubtful mind, perhaps you feel unacceptable and must look at me and think the same...
then the next comment was about being a multi-millionaire. Which I am and it's not that incredible to be one, I often feel I'm still much further behind than I would like to be. Other multimillionaire people would probably say the same and would never use that term as a solution to a problem because we don't look at ourselves that way. Most view themselves as problem solvers that know they can do whatever they'd like, but based on what you say I'd also guess earning above average money is another thing you haven't achieved so it seems mytical in your eyes.
I am responding to this solely for the entertainment of optimistic people because I don't think my message is for you. For those of you reading this, this is the mentality of a person who would rather invest time trying to tear someone else down then build themselves to the person they wish they could be...please don't allow yourself on fall into such a state it could be irreparable.
There are some real pieces of garbage on the internet. Cowards smh
@@Karl__Pierre You know, I liked you until you started shooting insults at this random commenter. RUclipsrs get all kinds of people commenting. It's better to ignore the weird ones; everyone else does. You cheapen yourself with such rude statements. Showing off how much of a "multi-millionaire" you are is also not classy at all.
You can prepare Italian food in Spain
Hahaha for sure lol
@@Karl__Pierre LOL