just wanted to express sincere gratitude for the work you are doing. IMHO one of the best RUclips channels I have found. Thank you so much for sharing your expertise. bigup
Glad I stumbled across this vid! Luca mixed and mastered my July release 'The Wasp', and I couldn't be happier with it. This vid is gonna help me with self mastering for sure. Thx man.
Really good video! I still need to get my head around the L2 clipper thing, but I tend to use a clipper before and don't need to use a limiter because my mixes can go sensibly loud even with very little compression used throughout. The harmonic signal side signal generator looks intriguing as well, that's worth a look.
It would be great to see a video on Dynone. I love it but I dont know why. lol. I tend to start using the McDSP ML4000 because I just cant get my head around the D1. thanks in advance
TOP TOP TOP Video man !! I have a question. The bassline plugin technique is achivable with the Ozone 10 imager ?. I' am thinking of putting it on MID/SIDE mode, then add a band between 200 hz and maybe 500 hz and apply some saturation just on the sides. Is it different, maybe "the same". I am curious. PD: The last technique blews mi mind !
Thanks for watching mate; muchly appreciated; adding saturation to the side signal is different to what Basslane is doing; basslane is adding the harmonic information to the sides; but those harmonics are generated from the fundementals of the mid signal;
Thank you for every video that you uploaded! Those are always give me a huge tips for audio engineering!😊 I have a single favor, would you please upload that proper usaage of Acustica audio plugin's Pre button and Input trim??😮
Parallel compression is NOT upward compression. Yes, I know Katz said it was in his book. It's one of the few things he was wrong about. Pro-MB can be set as an upward compressor with the range set positive. You can also use it with only 1 band.
I 100% understand what you're saying and your not the first to flag this with me; however the verbiage Bob Katz uses literal descriptors of the ballistics in the signal flow; here's some explanations from my notes; Upward Compression; raises the volume of low-level passages/information in a waveform UP; Upward compression is more-so a technique than the inherent processing technology; even though it can be found inside of processors like Leapwing DynOne; 1. Upward compression is achieved by agressive compression in parallel with a dry source; where the aim is to heavily downward compress transients in the parallel channel so that in relation to the decau and sustain of a wave form the transients become weaker; this then gives the user the ability to bring up the low level detail in parallel with an original signal without the need to comprimise the integrity of the peak and transential information of the original dry signal; Upward Expansion; brings high level passages UP in volume; it’s basically the opposite gain action of downward compression; as signal passes the threshold the control voltage is inverted; and boosts rather than attenuates the signal; this is typically represented as fractional or inverse ratios on a parameter set; or the processors are entirely designed as what we know to be expanders; Waves C1 can operate in both these functions; and was first put together commerically in the DBX model 117 decimator. --- Not to be confused with Downward expansion; brings low-level passages or information in a waveform DOWN; when the signal drops BELOW a set threshold the downward expander will pull the gain information DOWN towards the noise floor These are typically reffered to as GATES; but can also be produced by a similar effect of monitoring the difference or delta signal of a downward compressor; Downward expansion we’ll explore in two roles;
@@panorama_mastering right. But, he's wrong. Parallel compression is equivalent to a lower ratio with more makeup. It still lowers the level of loud with respect to average. Upward compression increases the level of quiet with respect to average. They are not the same thing.
Thank you for all the knowledge Nicholas. I definitely have taken notes from all those mastering engineers along with Bob Ludwig also. In our field you have to stay up on all knowledge consistently. Side note... what is the track at 5:30? Felt like something Tiesto would put on his In Search Of series.
I promise you that I won't watch another channel that talks ab mixing and mastering. one more thing could you give me the track's name (5:40) cause I'm in looooooove with it. thanks
@@scotthstevenson My estimate is that because soundbars are usually not very wide compared to your average stereo speaker pair setup (distance between speakers) you are not profiting by the stereo manipulation as much since with a narrower setup between 2 speakers you get less of an "a ha!" experience or more simply put , a narrower Stereo Imaging. Everything has a price. So when the OP started messing with the bass and started stereoizing it even though it is fully mono compatible I have still never come across a method of doing this without sacrificing something for it to work. In theory you don't but as your observation shows in reality something got lost on the way. So while your subwoofer is playing the same thing , when you give the ear more stereo information after a point you lose perceptual focus of the lows. Its easier to like it when is sounds "huge and impressive" with a big speaker setup with lots of space between them and in a big room Also the fact that he pushed it 8+ db has a price also. In my experience squashed mixes always sound more shallow and more narrow as the effects have no space to move in the dynamic dimension. By no means can I prove what I say on a scientific way and I really hope I won't come across as arrogant . Am just trying to express my thoughts in a way that beginners can follow and more advanced engineers than me won't find ridiculous. Just wanted to share my thought because I found your observation very interesting and tried to come up with a possible explanation. And to the OP, I absolutely loved the video and love the channel. Keep them coming !
Why is it called "mastering" anyways? A "Mastering Engineer".. first time I've heard of it. hehe I just listen what others make. Way too complicated for me.
Mastering; the process of authoring the production master which is either disseminated digitally; or replicated on physical formats; The process of authoring that production master includes; Quality Control; Tonal presentation Dynamic Presentation Overall Loudness & Final Formatting
Sir the problem with your videos, I have three or so and you dont say what you are clicking or turning and since you dont zoom in for us to see, then why even make something where the message is not comming across, of course will say this, they feel you might not like it. But zoom in, or speak, right now I am increasing the such such fader, and bring your attention to how bigger the snare or kick gets. But just turning and saying nothing is poor communication. this is just feedback not hate or something. you have great content but poor delivery, we are not in your mind and dont even see what you touching on the screen. Why is this hard for some RUclipsrs to see. I think I just leave the video, I dont want to be guessing what he doing. Its allowed to speak even over the audio. you are playing and showing the viewer something.
just wanted to express sincere gratitude for the work you are doing. IMHO one of the best RUclips channels I have found. Thank you so much for sharing your expertise. bigup
Thanks a bunch man; thanks for watching!
Glad I stumbled across this vid! Luca mixed and mastered my July release 'The Wasp', and I couldn't be happier with it. This vid is gonna help me with self mastering for sure. Thx man.
For the second tip I recommend using the FDR function in Kotelnikov GE instead of a multiband, especially for mastering as there are no crossovers 👍🏾
Rapidly becoming one of my favourite mixing and mastering channels. Much love from the UK this Pom approves :D
Ha ! Lovely! Thanks!
100% agree with cranking it loud (at spot checks) ... and this saturator plugin is so interesting. Can't wait to cop it and get it on my masters.
Loveed the trick with Pro L2 and Basslane Pro, these are incredible plugins. Amazing!
Thanks mate! Basslane Pro is definitely a killer new bit of kit;
Just found your channel a couple days ago, loving the content. It's so refreshing to get some concise honest mixing and mastering tips, Thank you!
Welcome aboard!
@@panorama_mastering all da way from 🇨🇦
Why wouldn’t you use iZotope rx which would work better than as shortening the sustain?
Fantastic video! Thank you for sharing this useful information, much appreciated
My pleasure! No sweat!
Really good video! I still need to get my head around the L2 clipper thing, but I tend to use a clipper before and don't need to use a limiter because my mixes can go sensibly loud even with very little compression used throughout. The harmonic signal side signal generator looks intriguing as well, that's worth a look.
Thank you!
Definitely; here's a link to the clipper video -> ruclips.net/video/K6gIUO6q_3E/видео.html
It would be great to see a video on Dynone. I love it but I dont know why. lol. I tend to start using the McDSP ML4000 because I just cant get my head around the D1. thanks in advance
Where's the link to the track that was used for the example?
open.spotify.com/album/7e4pGLW9i2x76U842LTID8
TOP TOP TOP Video man !!
I have a question. The bassline plugin technique is achivable with the Ozone 10 imager ?. I' am thinking of putting it on MID/SIDE mode, then add a band between 200 hz and maybe 500 hz and apply some saturation just on the sides. Is it different, maybe "the same". I am curious.
PD: The last technique blews mi mind !
Thanks for watching mate; muchly appreciated; adding saturation to the side signal is different to what Basslane is doing; basslane is adding the harmonic information to the sides; but those harmonics are generated from the fundementals of the mid signal;
Thank you, this was a good video once again. What's the name of the track? Is it out already? I would like to listen to it. Regards
Going Home, MorningMaxwell Jade Alice!
Thank you for every video that you uploaded! Those are always give me a huge tips for audio engineering!😊
I have a single favor, would you please upload that proper usaage of Acustica audio plugin's Pre button and Input trim??😮
My pleasure and thanks for watching! I'll look into it!
@@panorama_mastering Thank you so much!
Parallel compression is NOT upward compression. Yes, I know Katz said it was in his book. It's one of the few things he was wrong about. Pro-MB can be set as an upward compressor with the range set positive. You can also use it with only 1 band.
I 100% understand what you're saying and your not the first to flag this with me; however the verbiage Bob Katz uses literal descriptors of the ballistics in the signal flow; here's some explanations from my notes;
Upward Compression; raises the volume of low-level passages/information in a waveform UP;
Upward compression is more-so a technique than the inherent processing technology; even though it can be found inside of processors like Leapwing DynOne;
1. Upward compression is achieved by agressive compression in parallel with a dry source; where the aim is to heavily downward compress transients in the parallel channel so that in relation to the decau and sustain of a wave form the transients become weaker; this then gives the user the ability to bring up the low level detail in parallel with an original signal without the need to comprimise the integrity of the peak and transential information of the original dry signal;
Upward Expansion; brings high level passages UP in volume; it’s basically the opposite gain action of downward compression; as signal passes the threshold the control voltage is inverted; and boosts rather than attenuates the signal; this is typically represented as fractional or inverse ratios on a parameter set; or the processors are entirely designed as what we know to be expanders; Waves C1 can operate in both these functions; and was first put together commerically in the DBX model 117 decimator.
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Not to be confused with
Downward expansion; brings low-level passages or information in a waveform DOWN; when the signal drops BELOW a set threshold the downward expander will pull the gain information DOWN towards the noise floor These are typically reffered to as GATES; but can also be produced by a similar effect of monitoring the difference or delta signal of a downward compressor;
Downward expansion we’ll explore in two roles;
@@panorama_mastering right. But, he's wrong. Parallel compression is equivalent to a lower ratio with more makeup. It still lowers the level of loud with respect to average. Upward compression increases the level of quiet with respect to average.
They are not the same thing.
Oh; ok; I see what you're saying here; My miss-interpretation of your first comment, sorry!
I’ve said it before and I’ll say jt again. Upwards compression is the most underrated tool in the game
I say it ALL the time!
thanks so much for sharing!!
No worries; my pleasure!
Danke
Amazing tips, Nick. Keep up the good work. :)
WIll do ! Thanks for watching;
Thank you! Great video
You're welcome! Thanks for watching;
Thank you for all the knowledge Nicholas. I definitely have taken notes from all those mastering engineers along with Bob Ludwig also. In our field you have to stay up on all knowledge consistently. Side note... what is the track at 5:30? Felt like something Tiesto would put on his In Search Of series.
Thank you for sharing valuable information :)
Glad it was helpful! My Pleasure!
Name of the Song?
whaha you are beyond GOAT man, thanks !
NO worries; thanks for joining along!
some of the best, not sure about a couple of the guys on that list
So afraid you are going to knock that coffee over with your right elbow.
haha ! no the first person to mention this!
I promise you that I won't watch another channel that talks ab mixing and mastering. one more thing could you give me the track's name (5:40) cause I'm in looooooove with it. thanks
Am I the only one that thought bypass sounded better on pretty much every example ?
Maybe? Send notes! Happy to to discuss;
@@panorama_mastering I watched on a tv with sound bar and sub and the low end noticeably reduced when plug-ins engaged.
@@scotthstevenson My estimate is that because soundbars are usually not very wide compared to your average stereo speaker pair
setup (distance between speakers) you are not profiting by the stereo manipulation as much since with a narrower setup between 2 speakers you get less of an "a ha!" experience
or more simply put , a narrower Stereo Imaging.
Everything has a price. So when the OP started messing with the bass and started stereoizing it even though it is fully mono compatible I have still never come across a method of doing this without sacrificing something for it to work. In theory you don't but as your observation shows in reality something got lost on the way.
So while your subwoofer is playing the same thing , when you give the ear more stereo information after a point you lose perceptual focus of the lows.
Its easier to like it when is sounds "huge and impressive" with a big speaker setup with lots of space between them and in a big room
Also the fact that he pushed it 8+ db has a price also. In my experience squashed mixes always sound more shallow and more narrow as the effects have no space to move in the dynamic dimension.
By no means can I prove what I say on a scientific way and I really hope I won't come across as arrogant . Am just trying to express my thoughts in a way that beginners can follow and more advanced engineers than me won't find ridiculous.
Just wanted to share my thought because I found your observation very interesting
and tried to come up with a possible explanation.
And to the OP, I absolutely loved the video and love the channel. Keep them coming !
Why is it called "mastering" anyways? A "Mastering Engineer".. first time I've heard of it. hehe I just listen what others make. Way too complicated for me.
Mastering; the process of authoring the production master which is either disseminated digitally; or replicated on physical formats;
The process of authoring that production master includes;
Quality Control;
Tonal presentation
Dynamic Presentation
Overall Loudness
& Final Formatting
Sir the problem with your videos, I have three or so and you dont say what you are clicking or turning and since you dont zoom in for us to see, then why even make something where the message is not comming across, of course will say this, they feel you might not like it.
But zoom in, or speak, right now I am increasing the such such fader, and bring your attention to how bigger the snare or kick gets.
But just turning and saying nothing is poor communication. this is just feedback not hate or something. you have great content but poor delivery, we are not in your mind and dont even see what you touching on the screen.
Why is this hard for some RUclipsrs to see. I think I just leave the video, I dont want to be guessing what he doing.
Its allowed to speak even over the audio. you are playing and showing the viewer something.