Beretta Silver Pigeon Sporter Review After 2 Months and 1200 Shots ROGER PACE
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- The video looks at gun fit and the various types of guns that are out there. Is an adjustable stock really necessary?
Does the silver pigeon do the job in different types of clay disciplines.
Is an expensive gun necessary or just a joy and pleasure to hold and look at the fine machining and hand engraving?
Has the Beretta been reliable over the last two months? Will it do the job for you and should you buy one. Thank You...... ROGER PACE
I started shooting trap with a Franchi Instinct. I chose it to serve multiple purposes, ie: trap, sporting clays and upland bird hunting. I also have the option of doubles trap if I decide to try it.
I have high cheek bones so I did have to add a riser to the comb to get it to align my eye with the bead.
Two years ago I bought a used Browning BT-99 with a 32 inch barrel for down the line and handicap. I noticed right away an improvement on my scores, especially on handicap. I had to add a comb riser to it as well.
Keep the videos coming!
Tim...makes good sense...glad it's all going well...stay well over there and thanks for watching !!!
Good honest review, love my sp No1 30 inch barrels, clays, game, pigeons,and wildfowl, as my old dad used to say point it in the right direction and they will smash or fall, practice.practice. regards from The north of England.
David...thank you and stay well!!!
Thanks Roger, finally ordered my first ever Beretta. Left Handed 686 Sporter, 30” . Can’t wait! She’s on her way from Italy as we speak.
Good on you ...and enjoy shooting it...stay well !!!
I'm four months in with mine and loving it as a reliable purchase. Nothing flash or impressive, and maybe predictable, but that's how I do considered purchases.
Simon...yes...very reliable!!!
Nice video! I too love the 686 series. But I’m a hunter, not a sport shooter. I’ll shoot sporting clays maybe once per year, but I’ll hunt all upland game species by making at least 20+ trips during the year for table fare. Dove, quail, pheasant, chukar, cottontail rabbit and woodcock. Then there’s ducks and geese which is another field event I do a few times per year. My Beretta 687 is now my main gun for those activities. I did however purchase the 687 because I liked the slightly nicer aesthetics, wood and deeper engraving of the gun, but it is the same “bullet proof” action as the 686.
My 687 came with 5 chokes, but my dealer threw in two additional Beretta optima HP chokes of my choosing and for free. My SKB SxS of 40+ years has now taken a back seat for all of my upland hunts.
Good on you...thanks for the info and for watching...stay well and happy shooting !!!
I bought Beretta Silver Pigeon 1 Sporting 30” Barrels few years ago.
I’m more like a hunter rather than a clay shooter and this gun does both beautifully.
Doesn’t have the vented ribs I just don’t like the look of it but they do serve a purpose I believe.
Now I’m into the side by side guns
Got a silver hawk 471 20 gauge 28” barrels and the 486 Paralello 12 gauge 30” barrels
Yes I’m a Beretta huge fan, for a reason
Nothing beats the traditional classical guns especially for hunting.
The DT 11 is a beautiful piece of art and yes if you wanna spoil yourself get it but you already have a wonderful SP1 Sporter maybe you should consider the 486 Paralello instead 😜 joking joking joking if you’re not into hunting then what’s the point unless you want it to be a safe queen.
I never knew there was SP1 sporter until I watched your video.
Mine is sporting and I wanted the field version with lower rib but wasn’t available at that time so I got the sporting version instead and I don’t regret it so will do more clay shooting more often
Thanks for the video pleasure to watch like always
Sam...many thanks... happy new year and stay well!!!
Roger Pace I learnt a lot from you Roger your videos are amazing especially the one about cleaning and storing your gun
Very informative thank you
Happy new year to you and your family
Thank you Roger, i learned a lot from your videos and tips that improved well my trap clay shooting. I am waiting the gov permission for a new gun (686 or 692 sporting). God bless you.
You will be happy with the 692...happy shooting!
Have to agree with you Roger. I was always a Browning/Miroku shooter because being a big guy I liked the weight, but I’ve just bought a basic fixed choke 2009 Silver pigeon for £600, no extras but in good sound condition. My shooting has marginally improved with the beretta and I just like shooting gun, not concerned about the looks. Between that and my 26 year old Browning 425 I think I’ve got the 2 guns that suit me now and (probably? ) won’t change either 😊. Enjoy your vids over here in Liverpool. Best wishes.
Good to hear from you in Liverpool... thank you for watching...stay well and happy shooting.!!!
Roger, When I started shooting I was on an industrial trap team, in USA. Started out with a Laurona. Short barrel, fixed choke ,field gun. I shot a few 25's and a couple of 50' with that "wrong gun". I now have a 682 trap combo and a 687 EELL trap X. The Laurona still feels the best and I can control the best. In fact, After years in the safe, I took it out last December and it did as usual, 23,22,24. You are so right when you say the higher grades are not always the high scorers. How a gun fits and handles is way more important than wood and engraving. But I do have a couple of EELLs and an EL that are really nice to look at. Not to mention show off at the trap range. Take care Brian
Brian...you are spot on ...and you have some very nice guns...good on you!
I picked up an older 686 field gun with fixed chokes in a 20g with 26 inch barrels. I didn’t have very high expectations - was planning just to use it for hunting. Took it clay shooting and I’ve never shot better. I’m a believer.
Foxxy...good on you...just goes to show ..you just have to point it in the right place.
Great gun, i'm upgrading from a Benelli supernova to the Silver Pigeon 1 Sporter this week. They are a fab gun, best for the money.. very popular here in Ireland!! I'm pretty excited
+Sayers Pipes Good on you ...I have shot about 4000 to 5000 rounds through mine and it has never missed a beat...they are a good gun...I've been to Ireland great place ...great people...happy shooting with the new gun...best wishes...Roger
Bought a silver pigeon game in 1996 and always regretted not getting a sporter.not used it in 10 years. Recently got into clays and traded for a 30" silver pigeon 1 sporter yesterday and shot a 50 bird practice at olympic ball trap with 23/25 1st round and 2nd round with only 1 shot to count on each bird hitting 18 for a total score of 41. Not bad for its first outing. Delighted with it
Great gun and good to hear from you!
Dave Brady did you buy the game version for a reason or by accident?
Do you do hunting?
I wanted the game version but ended up with sporting not sporter it does both
Enjoy your gun
Cheers
I own 3, best shotgun ever
you're absolutely right roger. At the gun club I see these beautiful shotguns ( to expensive for me, but one day hope to afford one). But my silver pigeon( thanks to this video I bought one awhile back) has been reliable and I still fair well with true pairs and reporte , even with those high end shotguns. Great video sir!
Ralph...I've had the 690 now for about 6/7 weeks ...they are both great guns and the only reason I changed over was that i wanted an adjustable stock and also to be able to review another gun.
Roger Pace how much height did you add on adjustment, just curious
I added 7mm ...and now the gun patterns at about 70/30
Whew 2k plus man that's crazy mark up.
Thank you for the review
Michael...and thank you for watching!!!
Just getting into clay shooting and was going to get the silver pidgeon as my first gun. Your videos have help me in deciding, thank you (UK)
It's a very reliable sturdy gun...Stay well...Roger
Hi Roger! I've watched all your videos and I really like your relaxed style and the old school presentations. Hopefully you'll keep making more videos.
I'm buying a new gun and I'm getting a Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon I Sporting with an adjustable stock. The only thing I can't decide is if I should get 28" or 30" barrels. I'll be using it for everything. Sporting, international skeet and the occasional trap round. I'll also be hunting with it. I've been using a semi auto with 28" barrels which is about exactly the same overall length as the 686 with 30" barrels, and I've done very well with it.
Also handled a 692 at the gun store which felt great but I can't justify paying twice as much for it compared to a 686. Probably will end up getting the 30" barrels as a bit of a compromise for all around use. Hopefully I won't come to regret the extra 2 inches when I've walked all day in the fields with my dogs.
Papu...it is a brilliant gun and will do all those things you say...mine had 30" barrels ...and that is what I would recommend...stay well!
Thanks Roger! If you're looking for ideas for future videos, barrel length might be a good one.
How does barrel length effect the balance and swing of the gun? What are the advantages and disadvantages of different barrel lengths? How does barrel weight affect the required barrel length?
I know the answer to barrel length is always personal preference but it
might be an interesting topic to talk about objectively.
Just both the 686 sporting myself in 30". Fantastic gun. Preferred the sporting to the standard 686 because of the wider rib and better defined end sight.
Greetings from Cyprus. Got the same gun but 28''. I m lovin it
Looking to buy one here in the states so I thank you for your help!
Mark...you are very welcome...Stay well!
Beautiful Gun! Thank you for the video..
werner you are very welcome...thank you!!!
Nice video! I just ordered the 686 SP I sporting AS earlier today. This was after a lot of contemplation. I had shortlisted the 694, 690 black, and the 686. As you mentioned too, all Beretta shotguns shoot very well and as a beginner, I do not fancy the high-end wood and engraving. Therefore, decided to buy the 686. I am gonna use the money saved for practicing at the range or get some lessons.
Good on you...it's a good gun...best wishes and let us know how you go ...!!!
@@rogerpace9322 The range opened up here in Germany last week again and I did make the best of it. I shoot international Skeet as an absolute beginner. I did not pattern the gun and was missing almost everything on the low side. Nevertheless, I am looking forward to the next session. In the meanwhile, I built myself a Skeet trainer. I've tried to match the target speeds to the best of my ability. Using this tool to practice the mount, lead, and followthrough. You can check it out here.ruclips.net/video/TOIwytW9ucE/видео.html
How is it going mate? Just ordered mine!
well done .. in fact, I had the 686 SP and i do agree with you 100 %
Yes its a good reliable gun ...mine is a sporter and ive put a comb raiser on the stock...to lift my eye up a bit...so that the gun shoots a bit higher...stay well...Roger
Man thanks for the review, I plan to buy one but with the adjustable « busc » dunno how to say that in English
Glad I could help Stay well and thanks for watching!!!
I am really taking a good look at buying this gun. Thanks for your video.
It is a very robust reliable gun...as an all round gun buy the sporter version...if you are a dedicated trap shooter buy the trap version with an adjustable stock...stay well...Roger
Thank mate.
i purchased this shotgun today my friend! :-)
and these videos made me finally bought it! =D
Auguri...Congratulations...Paolo Beretta ...is a happy man today...the oldest manufacturer that is still making guns...I will look forward to your review of it...I think you will be happy with it ...in Australia Beretta give you lifetime service...do they do that in Italy?...Stay well...Roger
+Roger Pace Beretta still make good shootgun and hunting rifle...but their policy with italian customers is very bad my friend :(
but aniway... i will test my silver pigeon at the skeet as soon as possible.
That's the gun I wanted but just a little out of my price range... and i don't like to wait for lay-a-way, lol
Its a fine looking over/under...enjoy!
Roger.....do you use your Silver P. 686 Sporting for trap or some other clay shooting discipline.
If yes, does it serve well for trap? I have recently joined a club that has a 5 Stand Sporting set up as well as Trap shooting......and skeet also.
Hi. I recently discovered your channel whilst looking to get into clay target shooting as a beginner. I know this video is old / but think you made a later one advising to buy a gun with adjustable stock...
Ian...yes there is one on adjustable stocks...with an adjustable stock we can set the gun up so that it shoots where we look and in clay sports that's what we want.
another great vid Roger!
Thank you ...positive comments give you the drive to keep going...enjoy the new gun !
Thanks for video, im about to purchase 686 and still in the process of figuring out if its what i really want :)
Your vids help!
The 686 is a great reliable gun...I've shot about 3000 rounds through mine and it has not faltered once. They come in field, sporter and trap. If you shoot trap then get one with an adjustable stock. The field shoots low...the sporter about 60/40 and the trap shoots higher again. Good luck...Roger
Hey Roger,
im still going for 686 gotta wait for one with adjusted height tho - im rather tall (194cm) so this might comes handy...
Aiming for Sporting ver - my only goal is to shoot internation skeet.
Sorry for the late reply ...the newest comments do not always show up where they should on the page...the 686 sporter will make you very happy if you are going to shoot skeet... I've raised the comb on mine so that it shoots a bit higher...I've shot skeet a couple of times but I'd be too embarassed to tell the scores...let me know what you think when you get the gun Stay well...Roger
He still looks serious
Always serious my friend...thank you for watching !!!
brilliant video! Thanks for sharing your insight :) Cheers!
Thank you...glad the video was useful...Roger
+Roger Pace l just ordered a silver pigeon, can't wait to try it out!
Joakim the silver pigeon is a great gun...I am sure you will be very happy with it ...let me know what you think when you get the gun...stay well...Roger
Great video Roger, I'm new to your channel, I'm new to shooting and I'm on the verge of buying the same gun, I used the same gun the other day at my local shooting range, it was a 28" barrel and it felt great, is there much difference with the 30" barrel ?
the 28 inch will swing faster than a 30 inch barrel gun...if you are going to shoot trap I would suggest 30 inch ..it gives you a smoother swing...but in the end it's all personal preference...stay well and good luck!
Which do you prefer the 690 or this 686 sporter series? Thanks. Love your video. These two are my short list for sporting clay. Still not sure which one is better for my intended purpose
I would have to say they will both do the job Make sure you have an adjustable comb. Go with the one that feels best for you.. Good on you !!!
Hi Roger, just ordered a 686 SP1 Sporter 32” after selling my Browning 725 bc I wanted the 32” barrels for the longer sporting clay shots. Decided not to spend the extra $4k US for the DT11 right now. Paid $1850 US, figuring some of the savings might be better spent on a few lessons. I can’t wait to give it a try. Great video. Are you still shooting the 690? Are you still thinking about the DT11 for yourself? Great video. Hope all is well. Regards.
Yes...still shooting the 690...my mates say I should use it as a tomato stake...and yes I would like a DT 11...but will I shoot any better?
I want one. But I want better wood on it
What can I say... the wood's not going to improve the gun...but...yes...it does look nicer...good on you !!!
I have buy it today from Cyprus from a personal collector is was shoot about 1000 cartridge for 1500 euro.. Grade 3..the sporting 30.. With many extras.. Is my first gun!! I want to listen your opinion????
Andreas...sorry for the late reply...the silver pigeon is a good reliable gun...you will be happy with it.
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Should I get the 690 or the 692 with adjustable I shoot sporting clays! Thanks for all the help
Always better to have adjustable comb...then you can set your gun up to shoot where you look !!!
Heelo Mr Pace,
Is it better to store he gun in a safe or a locked up gun case ? I have kids at home so cant leave it unlocked but I have a gun safe and put a gun sock on my berretta silver pigeon.
Gun safe and gun sock is good..i put in a few little packets of moisture absorbent stuff in the bottom of the safe...stay well !!!
hey roger pace im going to buy the silver pigoen but i was wonder if the beretta silver pigeon has an udjustable comb or if you can get a different model that has one
Brison...I am fairly sure that the trap version of the silver pigeon does come with an adjustable comb...if not... beretta will do it for you... with an adjustable comb... it is a brilliant gun and well worth the money
Hi Roger. I saw one of these with matte black barrels. Do you reckon this was an aftermarket fit or can you buy the gun new with these barrels fitted?
stephen...the silver pigeons i've seen do not have matt black barrels.
@@rogerpace9322 Thanks for the reply Roger. Please forgive my questions but I'm thinking of buying this as my first gun if it's still at the dealers. As it's my first gun I want to make sure I'm not being ripped off. Are Beretta barrels stamped or anything so I know they are genuine and not some cheap knock off? I intend to head back to the store tomorrow for a closer look.
im stuck between the 686 Silver Pigeon I Sporting and the 690 sporting got any advise. can you take off the midbead aswell
Landon ...690 is in my opinion one step up from the silver pigeon...it's an entry level competition gun !!!
Can you take off the mid bead
Yes...but you will have a small drill hole in the rib !!!
Greetings Roger from the old USA. I have been considering the purchase of the Beretta Silver Pigeon and wanted to ask you are the barrels chrome lined?
Thanks for the informative video - thumbs up!
Jack
Journeyman...the barrels are chromed and its probably one of the most reliable guns around!
Is the midbead on the beretta 690 sporter removeable?
NO...if you remove it there will be a small hole .
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What changed your mind about adjustable stocks? I am considering a SP 30” for trap, skeet and sporting. No adjustable stock. You moved up to a 690?
Ed ...moved to a 690 because the silver pigeon did not have an adjustable stock...need to adjust for POI
Does the Silver Pigeon Sport come with a double rib barrel? I've been looking online to buy one but they don't have double ribs. How did you get yours?
+vizi0123 Sorry for the late reply but i have been away on holidays for a week in sunny queensland ...the sporter is an o/u and has a single 8mm rib... the pattern shoots about 60%top and 40% bottom from point of aim... I got mine from Fisher fire arms in adelaide they now cost $2950 Australian ...best wishes ...roger
Is it any good on trap?
Yes...it was my first gun on trap...if it has an adjustable stock you will be fine...Stay well and thanks for watching!!!
Hi Roger , I am thinking to buy Beretta SP1 Sporting... Are you having any problem with the gun until now?
Vastaiko...I am happy to say that the gun has never had a fail to fire...I thought it did once but i left the fired cartridge in the top barrel...it's a very reliable gun and I am very happy with it...stay well ...Roger
vastaiko you won’t go wrong with it I have the sporting version and I love it
Remember though sporting is different than sporter
If you only wanna shoot clay then get sporter
If you wanna do hunting and clay then sporter
Sporter = Field?
Michael...a field gun generally shoots lower than a sporter...stay well in these challenging times!!!
I just got mind not happy it's post to be a classic I look on internet and it show it got pigeon on the side mind hasn't and leavers on top dose not come back to senter
neville...the lever should be at the 5 0'clock position... why are you not happy!!!
The old saying..... a bad shooter always blames his gun.... applies in this case. In my opinion. I love my 686. Happy shooting everyone.
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