Thanks for sharing, if you want more info on it , you could contact Ray Hooley who used to work for Ruston Hornsby and has their records, so if you quote him the engine number etc he will be able to tell you when it was dispatched from Lincoln. Just Google oldengine Ray Hooley and you should get his website home page. He has been a big help with the 1928 Size 5 Class ME I am restoring for a customer. Also the "internal fire museum" have a lot of info on their website.
Reminds me an old bandsaw I used in a boatyard on the coast of Maine. 3 ft diameter wheels top and bottom, and took a good 16 seconds to come up to speed. When turned off though, it took a good 3-5 minutes to spin to a stop, so if I was fitting pieces of wood, I could come back within that time and trim the work piece a little more.
one very similar but taller I believe 8 HP. with a car alternator ran on waste oil charging batteries will not start under load. Once up to speed run for days charging 12v and giving hot water
its fantastic to listen to these old engines plodding along, the great thing with them being just that, low RPMs so they dont wear out the same as modern engines. I wouldnt keep using ether to start it though, as the engines will somehow get used to it and wont start without the stuff eventually. You could also source a generator head to go with the engine to power the workshop or your home if the power fails.
@@exploringabandonedmines The ether explodes in the cylinder breaking the rings..... Once you break the rings...you don't have sufficient compression to start the engine any other way than by ether.... If you do have to use ether, use it only while turning the engine over so the engine ingests both air and ether, diluting the ether..... If you need to check if a diesel engine will run...without getting the whole fuel system overhauled or prepped...just squirt WD40 into the intake while turning the engine over...it will run on WD40 as long as you keep squirting in WD40...without any diesel at all. Useful in an emergency if something happens when coming into a wharf...and the engine quits re fuel......
We have a yearly celebration here near my house called "Matlock Days" where they run old hit and miss motors,drag saws and even a steam donkey that pulls a round of logs back and forth.
Hey Frank I have this old Single Cylinder Roto Tiller that I inherited from my Great Grandfather , Grandfather , Father . This Thing Screams . If you get it to Start every 5 years .
those motors are made to run around 600 rpm by a govener...it sounds like its full throttle in the video..nice very nice! and the rad would be a 55gallon drum most likely
Not hit and miss... 4 stroke with fuel injection every time and compression ignition every time it cycles. Just slow running, massively overbuilt for 24/7 operation at 1 pint an hour fuel consumption....
What a fantastic old machine that is , so simple . The weight and force of the fly wheels , even when almost at a stop and you can fire it back up again 😄 I loved seen the old stationary engines a the Country Fair and Forestry Show's .
Lots of hit miss units still powering oil well pump jacks in my neighborhood, can hear them all the time echo up through the holler. After watching you mess with this I'd assume the ones on the pumpjacks have a govoner that shuts the fuel on and off as they constantly eb and flow as they run. Very cool engine you have, well deserving of preserving.
Any diesel engine like this is not a hit and miss type..it's a straight always injecting 4 stroke diesel with no missed firing phases.....but the consumption may be only a pint of diesel an hour at low revs.....
The usual cooling for an engine this size, under say a 2000 watt generator load, is an open topped 55 gallon water drum elevated so the bottom of the drum is level with the inlet pipe to the water jacket. As the water heats it rises in the water jacket and out the top pipe into the top 6 inches of the drum. It is like the Model T Ford...hot water rises, cold water "sucks" into the bottom of the water jacket and circulates with no pump necessary.....and the 55 gallons is thermal mass enough to have very little evaporation happening...just top up very few days...if necessary. The engine is built to run 24/7
Hi Frank, wow that is so cool, how long did you have to work on her to get her running ???. What sort of thing would that power ??. Awesome, thank you for sharing. xx 🙏💖
@@exploringabandonedmines It's a fantastic piece of history and a great find. I think it's awesome you guys got it going, it just goes to show how well built things were back in the day. xx
@@deathk26 Think about it. The shaft has a dog which allows you to crank the engine in the direction of rotation by engaging with a ramp on the cranking shaft ...so if it kicks back...say you are trying to start it without using the compression release and it hits compression and bounces back... that dog is still engaged... and will hurt your hand or wrist...or arm. Only when the engine speeds up past your ability to crank does the detent push the crank away from the dog which allows you to hold the crank and slip it off the shaft.... These engines have a compression release so you are meant to engage the compression release and spin the engine over as fast as possible, then flip the lever allowing full comprssion to start the engine...and you draw back the crank handle from engagement at the same time....so no kick back....
These are a 4 stroke fuel injected diesel that operate at slow revs but do not miss any operating stroke at any time.... they can run on 1 pint of diesel an hour 24/7
A trusty 1VSO, they are direct injection 4.5" bore & stroke. Then dont really need eater. I own several of these engines and typical. Please have a look at my channel.
The ether explodes in the cylinder breaking the rings..... Once you break the rings...you don't have sufficient compression to start the engine any other way than by ether.... If you do have to use ether, use it only while turning the engine over so the engine ingests both air and ether, diluting the ether..... If you need to check if a diesel engine will run...without getting the whole fuel system overhauled or prepped...just squirt WD40 into the intake while turning the engine over...it will run on WD40 as long as you keep squirting in WD40...without any diesel at all. Useful in an emergency if something happens when coming into a wharf...and the engine quits re fuel......
No, this fires on every cycle. Hit and miss engines fire and free-wheel for a bit until it slows down enough for a governor on the flywheel to engage and fire it again.
This is a precison instrument, injected diesel, 4 stroke that never misses any cycles when running; massively built to run 24/7 and use a pint of diesel in an hour...or any other fluid such as hydraulic oil sump oil, 2 stroke oil, ATF etc. The fact that this only starts on ether points to broken rings from ether explosions...so low compression and inability to start without further use of ether. Only use ether to start a diesel while the engine is cranking over so the cylinder ingests air with the ether and dilutes it.... You can run a diesel on WD40... just keep squirting it into the intake from the start while the engine is turning and then running and you don't need diesel at all.... Good way to check an old unknown condition diesel to see if it only has fuel problems...
Thanks for sharing, if you want more info on it , you could contact Ray Hooley who used to work for Ruston Hornsby and has their records, so if you quote him the engine number etc he will be able to tell you when it was dispatched from Lincoln. Just Google oldengine Ray Hooley and you should get his website home page. He has been a big help with the 1928 Size 5 Class ME I am restoring for a customer. Also the "internal fire museum" have a lot of info on their website.
Well i am not quite that intetested. It is just nice to see the passed presereved. And it is some time amasing to see old equipment still being used.
Hi 👋 Frank great 👍 video 📹 amazing to see 👀 old engine up and running again cool 😎 please keep the great videos 📹 coming cheers 🍻 friend 👍
lovely to see and hear an old engine from the past coming back to life, nice restore guys
Glad you enjoyed it
Amazing old technology right there
Love making old machinery run again. Nice job.
Thanks 👍
Runs good for old single cylinder. Nice 👍
Yes, thanks
You have to love these old engines, especially when they are running. Beautiful! Thanks Frank!
You bet
I love old engines, thanks for sharing Frank ✌❤
You bet
It's amazing you two got that running and it's only one cylinder keep up the great videos
I love that sound !!
Great job Frank. It was fun watching the old engine to come to life.
Reminds me an old bandsaw I used in a boatyard on the coast of Maine. 3 ft diameter wheels top and bottom, and took a good 16 seconds to come up to speed. When turned off though, it took a good 3-5 minutes to spin to a stop, so if I was fitting pieces of wood, I could come back within that time and trim the work piece a little more.
one very similar but taller
I believe 8 HP. with a car alternator ran on waste oil charging batteries will not start under load.
Once up to speed run for days charging 12v and giving hot water
well done frank that engine would of been made less than 3 miles from me in Lincoln Uk nice to see it running.
what a beautiful sound I went to that Britannia Mine today seen a BUNCH of Ruston equipment
Pretty cool one lunger Frank, nice addition to your museum on modern history... 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Wow, a bit of hard work and it runs like brand new again
These were actually made not far from where I live, amazing to see one there
You need to put a downwards bend in the exhaust through the wall or it will feed rain water into your engine causing problems.
Thanks for reminding me...I will!
Exploring Abandoned Mines Frank fort God sake don’t put your thumb over the crank handle .Only needs to backfire and you have a broken thumb or wrist
Great Sound!
Very cool!
its fantastic to listen to these old engines plodding along, the great thing with them being just that, low RPMs so they dont wear out the same as modern engines. I wouldnt keep using ether to start it though, as the engines will somehow get used to it and wont start without the stuff eventually. You could also source a generator head to go with the engine to power the workshop or your home if the power fails.
I think that is an old wives tale, I have heard it before!
@@exploringabandonedmines
The ether explodes in the cylinder breaking the rings.....
Once you break the rings...you don't have sufficient compression to start the engine any other way than by ether....
If you do have to use ether, use it only while turning the engine over so the engine ingests both air and ether, diluting the ether.....
If you need to check if a diesel engine will run...without getting the whole fuel system overhauled or prepped...just squirt WD40 into the intake while turning the engine over...it will run on WD40 as long as you keep squirting in WD40...without any diesel at all.
Useful in an emergency if something happens when coming into a wharf...and the engine quits re fuel......
We have a yearly celebration here near my house called "Matlock Days" where they run old hit and miss motors,drag saws and even a steam donkey that pulls a round of logs back and forth.
Pretty cool !
No surprise, It runs just as good as the day it was made.
Like a kid with a new toy. A very cool toy!
Cool motor.
Cool engine!good job fellas👍
Thanks 👍
Unreal!
Nice! Ruston's of Lincoln made some of the first tanks in WW1 as well as making planes for the Sopwith company.
👍😎💖🍻🍻 IT'S Alive!!! I had a John Deere B (1946) an old 2 "lunger" that you had to start by cranking the fly wheel.
Very cool!
That sound though it, reminds of an old world car sound love your videos keep it up
Love to see those old engines running again. Keep up the great work and videos
Nice you got it running and saved it 👌. Case wash state.
Thanks 👍
Great work guys!
Glad you enjoyed it!
That’s awesome!
sounds like a 50 john deere. awesome
Hey Frank I have this old Single Cylinder Roto Tiller that I inherited from my Great Grandfather , Grandfather , Father . This Thing Screams . If you get it to Start every 5 years .
Good stuff, Thanks
You bet
COOL! Whats that Noise?...Why it's Frank coming up the road on his new Chopper! :o)
Nice engine, and they run forever if maintained well.
Yes they are!
Pretty cool,I like the old motors!
They are!
Dude that is awesome!!!
Glad you think so!
this was a video i have been waiting to see, looks like it runs very nicely, now to put some lineshafts up and run some things off it
That's awesome I gotta make the trek across the Paulson pass to your museum one day
Please do!
Can't wait Franky
OH wow! you got the tach working! It must have come out of a dry mine. the thing looks amazing!
It is an oil pressure gauge.
@@exploringabandonedmines That is cool. Looks to have decent oil pressure. thanks for the reply!
Wow! well done gentlemen, that was awesome indeed. 👏 😲 👍🤩❤️
Thank you so much 😀
Cool 👍
those motors are made to run around 600 rpm by a govener...it sounds like its full throttle in the video..nice very nice! and the rad would be a 55gallon drum most likely
That is so Kool !!
man those hit and miss motors are sooo cool!! :D
Not hit and miss...
4 stroke with fuel injection every time and compression ignition every time it cycles.
Just slow running, massively overbuilt for 24/7 operation at 1 pint an hour fuel consumption....
What a fantastic old machine that is , so simple . The weight and force of the fly wheels , even when almost at a stop and you can fire it back up again 😄
I loved seen the old stationary engines a the Country Fair and Forestry Show's .
Yes indeed!
That was so cool guys. Don't put your finger near them moving parts. Lol.
Well, that was hard, now wasn't it? Lol.
Another great one, as usual. Keep em coming!!!
Watching and hearing.that old engine....makes me hope maybe.someday that u will get some.belts.or something running off.her...she wants to work...
That's really cool
It's Got To B Good 😊 It Was Made In The 🇬🇧 🇬🇧👍👀😎🙏
nice chunk of iron, sounds very good...
It does!
Set the reminder for this one!
Good job Frank. What did this particular engine provide power for?
I don't know
Lots of hit miss units still powering oil well pump jacks in my neighborhood, can hear them all the time echo up through the holler. After watching you mess with this I'd assume the ones on the pumpjacks have a govoner that shuts the fuel on and off as they constantly eb and flow as they run. Very cool engine you have, well deserving of preserving.
Any diesel engine like this is not a hit and miss type..it's a straight always injecting 4 stroke diesel with no missed firing phases.....but the consumption may be only a pint of diesel an hour at low revs.....
Nice old motor.
Indeed!
This would look good powering your new Dodge truck. It would be the most reliable thing on the whole vehicle. Signed, a Ford guy
It might be more power than that station wagon you call a truck has!
12 valve cummins baby. Still driving it daily
Wow, really cool. My first thought was how much CO was thing putting out down in a mine? Thanks.
It's the model usually gold lettered on the side "Greta's Darling".
I hit the 👍
AWESOME. WHERE IS YOUR MUSEUM FRANK? I NEED A VACATION. COULDN'T THINK OF A BETTER PLACE TO COME SEE.
Grand Forks BC
Great old machinery built to last and simply to work on to keep running not what is built today.
It sure is
How does the water circulate on that awesome little engine? I also wonder what top rpm that has too?
It looks like a Hit n miss engine?
It has a water jacket but no water pump so it doesn't circulate much.
The usual cooling for an engine this size, under say a 2000 watt generator load, is an open topped 55 gallon water drum elevated so the bottom of the drum is level with the inlet pipe to the water jacket.
As the water heats it rises in the water jacket and out the top pipe into the top 6 inches of the drum.
It is like the Model T Ford...hot water rises, cold water "sucks" into the bottom of the water jacket and circulates with no pump necessary.....and the 55 gallons is thermal mass enough to have very little evaporation happening...just top up very few days...if necessary.
The engine is built to run 24/7
How cool . Are you going to run something off it?
I don't think so. We will just fire it up for visitors of the museum.
Hi Frank, wow that is so cool, how long did you have to work on her to get her running ???. What sort of thing would that power ??. Awesome, thank you for sharing. xx 🙏💖
It didn't take long a day, we had to fit a new fuel tank from another engine and figure out the controls. I could run a small jaw crusher.
@@exploringabandonedmines It's a fantastic piece of history and a great find. I think it's awesome you guys got it going, it just goes to show how well built things were back in the day. xx
Should there be some of govner operating that fuel shut off, for it to be a hit and miss? Cool motor either way. Thanks
I don't think it is a hit and miss.
@@exploringabandonedmines It's definitely not a hit and miss...!
They have an inbuilt governor operating on the injector rack controlling the fuel injection stroke....
I thought there was a special way you hold the crank? incase it backfired, it would not break your hand?
Just let go!
@@exploringabandonedmines In the event of a backfire I really don't think you have a choice in letting go or not.
The crank handle is designed to prevent that. It only locks to the shaft in one direction and can free-wheel past as you see in the video.
@@deathk26
Think about it.
The shaft has a dog which allows you to crank the engine in the direction of rotation by engaging with a ramp on the cranking shaft
...so if it kicks back...say you are trying to start it without using the compression release and it hits compression and bounces back...
that dog is still engaged...
and will hurt your hand or wrist...or arm.
Only when the engine speeds up past your ability to crank does the detent push the crank away from the dog which allows you to hold the crank and slip it off the shaft....
These engines have a compression release so you are meant to engage the compression release and spin the engine over as fast as possible, then flip the lever allowing full comprssion to start the engine...and you draw back the crank handle from engagement at the same time....so no kick back....
What fuel does it use? It sounds like a diesel, but looks like a gas engine...?
Deisel
If you get some Rode radio lav mics the audio will really be able to level up.
You need a more sophisticated video editing suite that processes the sound track separately.
I live in Lincoln in the uk and have several of these motors my dad worked there if ther"s anything i can do to help with spare let me know
It is running good. We fire it up everytime someone visits the museum
I need some spare parts for mine do you have an email cheers
Cool engine MSHA probably would not approve!!!
So would that engine run a pump or just whatever needed power?
They used them in tanks and boats 100 years ago and anything else you can think of.
Usually pumps or generators or fans for freah air....in a mine. they can be used on dinghies with the right gearbox and thrust bearings...
Sure seem to have a knock though when you started it back up after slowing down.
It was cold and being asked to rev from near standstill...you would knock too.....
What was horsepower ? 5?
About that.
Slow the roll on that old engine , I think the governor maybe sticky , it would be sad to see it grenade.
It looks very much like a 1941. Model 1VTO. 5.5 hp
It is!
If its old has everything there for it to function theres a 95 % chance it'll run without major work
So long as is isn't seized!
@@exploringabandonedmines been there done that.
You need a flashing on the exhaust or your wall will rot out from water damage over time.
It is all metal.
@@exploringabandonedmines I think the worry is water running down the outside of the exhaust and whicking onto that OSB the inside wall is made of
There goes the ozone layer..
Is it a diesel?
Now do you have some belts for running other toys? It's interesting how they put them on.
Yes diesel. No belts.
We call those hit or mis engine. Nice job preserving history
We call them single piston engine.
These are a 4 stroke fuel injected diesel that operate at slow revs but do not miss any operating stroke at any time....
they can run on 1 pint of diesel an hour 24/7
It's not a hit and miss its throttle govenored
Can any one contact me I have same kind of engine I need little information
Google it!
Do you think people will ever stop calling engines motors?
And thinking a 4 cycle diesel engine is a hit and miss?
@@charlienorton2337 CHUCK
A trusty 1VSO, they are direct injection 4.5" bore & stroke. Then dont really need eater. I own several of these engines and typical. Please have a look at my channel.
You need to get that can of easy start and throw it away.... Not needed and very damaging.
It doesn't start without it and it hasn't hurt it.
@@exploringabandonedmines It doesn't start without it? So it has already hurt it.
The ether explodes in the cylinder breaking the rings.....
Once you break the rings...you don't have sufficient compression to start the engine any other way than by ether....
If you do have to use ether, use it only while turning the engine over so the engine ingests both air and ether, diluting the ether.....
If you need to check if a diesel engine will run...without getting the whole fuel system overhauled or prepped...just squirt WD40 into the intake while turning the engine over...it will run on WD40 as long as you keep squirting in WD40...without any diesel at all.
Useful in an emergency if something happens when coming into a wharf...and the engine quits re fuel......
@@exploringabandonedmines you've buggered the engine already then, good job, it should start right up first crank over compression without any ether
it looks like a lister parts still maide
I am 99.999% shure my grandma is older and she still runs so I feel like it will start
Its diesel not hit and miss.
True
Isn't that what yhey call a hit and miss sounds like the ones my grandpa had that ran his shop
No, this fires on every cycle. Hit and miss engines fire and free-wheel for a bit until it slows down enough for a governor on the flywheel to engage and fire it again.
This is a precison instrument, injected diesel, 4 stroke that never misses any cycles when running; massively built to run 24/7 and use a pint of diesel in an hour...or any other fluid such as hydraulic oil sump oil, 2 stroke oil, ATF etc.
The fact that this only starts on ether points to broken rings from ether explosions...so low compression and inability to start without further use of ether.
Only use ether to start a diesel while the engine is cranking over so the cylinder ingests air with the ether and dilutes it....
You can run a diesel on WD40...
just keep squirting it into the intake from the start while the engine is turning and then running and you don't need diesel at all....
Good way to check an old unknown condition diesel to see if it only has fuel problems...
Can you say giant potato 🥔 gun?
Frank, I think this might be your engine.
If I'm right the fuel lever also doubles as the throttle.
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Stop taking stuff from the mines who cares about future generations see mining stuff.
If you aren't interested in mining history watch some other channel.