Flat Earther Thinks They are Taking Over the World
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
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Mark Sargent recently spoke at another conference, and this was his speech. He claims that flat Earth is about to take over. No, it's not Mark. No, it's not. Let's listen in, shall we...
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500, 000! Congratulations!
Love the channel... detest the cheap, nasty sound of Raycons.
This Nicholas Cage movie ad came on before, and where they have the ad link they had a community note about flat earthers.......I was so excited there was a new Nicholas Cage flat earth film........but it appears to not be true.......😞
AND YET MARK.... The MAJORITY OF THE PLANET. (MOST NOT CONNECTED TO that (supposedly) 'Evil/conspiring' NASA .. STILL ACCEPTS... The Scientific FACTS, REPEATABLE EVIDENCE AND... WHAT WE SEE... The Earth IS INDEED... An oblate SPHEROID, rotating in space, with A REAL Moon, which we BOTH rotate around the Sun (9ish MILLION miles away) and the WHOLE Solar system IS travelling through space going around OUR GALAXY - the Milky Way!
So fella... WHY DO YOU PERSIST in either Theistic or Nonsensical and/or BOTH (NO ACTUAL FACT/EVIDENCE based) theories? There IS NO POINT continuing with this UTTER BUNKUM... 😏
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At 3:56 there is actually a frame that has Mark's personal info right after you said you wouldnt include it. Just something I saw.
Missed an opportunity not titling this “Flat Earther thinks they’re taking over the GLOBE”
😂
Nice! Well done. 😊
“Flat earther thinks they are rounding up and taking over the globe”
Bloody ego much?
Thanks. That's definitely a laugh-out-loud observation.
The irony of a Flat Earther saying everybody else is living in ignorance. It's lost on all of them.
It's the old joke of the radio warning about a wrong way driver on the highway and a guy yelling "One? Hundreds!"
Flat Earthers are just too pathetic to live !!!
“We are coming for you and your families”
I can’t think of any other way to sound creepier than that. It’s the only accomplishment he deserves credit for.
It immediately reminded me of _First they came ..._ by Martin Niemöller but as told by the people on the attack. It's sad if that was what he was going for, and unfortunate that my mind immediately went to that poem with his words.
He basically said "You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile."
@@NovaSaber I suppose it was better than "Exterminate. Exterminate!"
Ol boy can get kneecapped😂
I hope that Homeland Security is looking too... they love it when you spread threaths to the US people...
"The masses have been enjoying our content for years." Yes Mark, everyone enjoys a good laugh.
All that and yet Mark Sargent still can’t even produce a verifiable map or model of the world. What a grifter.
The fact that maps, navigation and general reality work with a globe and not with a flat earth doesn't seem to matter to them. "We don't need a model" was quite the rallying cry but only serves to hide that they're evidence basically comes down to I-don't-believe-it. It's both amusing and frustrating that their beliefs are based on doubling down and cherry picking.
I think the old "we're coming for you" is Bible based. He thinks Armageddon is near and all us devil worshippers are gonna be sorry.
none of them can. only thing they agree is that earth is flat, all the rest is different to every flatter, they cant even agree on having a map that works for everyone 😄
And they still use Google Earth/Maps to navigate/measure distances.
I'd still love to hear any kind of explanation on how Australia has long days in summer, when the spotlight sun should just whizz past them even faster than in winter.
@@TheRenofox Well quite a few of them deny Australia even exists. Apparently when you meet Australians we are all just paid actors.
I spent 3 years aboard ship. I sailed halfway around the world. A buddy actually sailed completely around it on an Aircraft Carrier. There ain’t no Flat Earth Navy.
I imagine there's no flat earth air force, artillery division, or snipers for very similar reasons.
I was talking to a 90 year old a few months ago and she remembered mocking her mother in-law in the 60s for believing the earth was flat. They don't realise they've been the butt of many jokes for several generations now and it always ties back to the Bible.
An annual conference means nothing there is a comic and sci-fi convention in virtually every western country, it doesn't prove Spiderman is real.
Religion stams out critical thinking and the bible contains the lies that replace it.
Isn’t it nice to believe you are the special creation of an all-knowing all-powerful being you will spend eternity with. If you don’t think about how long eternity actually IS, that is.
The fact that their logic stems from The Bible, tells you something about The Bible.
Don't you dare tell me that Spiderman isn't real!
@@gqsmooth1969 but which Spiderman, now there's a multiverse?!?
My great grandmother apparently didn't believe the moon landing was real. She was convinced it was done in a movie studio. However, she was born in the 1890's and just couldn't get her head around the idea of going to the moon.
The real question for Mark is why hasn't he left flat earth like he promised after so many people met his argument. He wouldn't even acknowledge MCToon even when people raided his live stream to ask why he was ignoring Michael
That's what grifter con-artists do. Mark has no intention of being honest or sincere.
Money.
@@mikebronicki8264Eugene/Mr Krabs from Spongebob Squarepants will be very proud of grifters like Mark.
Cuz he never intended to honor that agreement. The only reason he made that challenge was because he knew the earth was a globe and never cared about the evidence. This is all a big moneygrab for these people, nothing more.
Simple
$$$$$$$$$
Love how he declares flat earth “won the social media war” then immediately goes on to show how little footprint they actually have on RUclips and the like 😂
To be fair I do think they probably took over myspace and parts of facebook by now.
It perfectly lines with with how flat earthers think. Reality is what they say it is no matter how objectively wrong they are. I'm amazed they don't all claim to half 10" schlongs 😂
You've broken my arm, making me the victor.
Hearing a Flerf talk about critical thinking literally made me laugh out loud.
Mark does put the "moron" in oxymoron, doesn't he?
"Do your own research" is their saying. They should buy a direct flight from South America to Australia and see that it isn't impossible.
@@helmuttrzoska4572 the best part about that point is that when they do their own research, the experiment proves the globe, but they either misinterprete the results or misrepresent them to support their pre-conceived notions.
I'm very critical of their thinking.
Flerf saying Critical Thinking is hot...
Like man, ever gone into a date and all you do is talk about university assignment that dues tomorrow on a group work while being left in a group of 9? Lovely night that makes huh?
I've gone to sea... in the age when sextants were used to locate oneself.
We had Loran-A and Loran-C but we always used a sextant, too.
We wanted to keep our skills up in case the electronic aid went down.
We used spherical trigonometry tables to solve the curved triangles of navigation.
It works.. and it would not work on a flat earth
how much do people like you get paid by nasa? not mocking actually interested is it salary or hourly? any benefits? /s
Having done survey work, I wish the Earth was flat. It would make thing so much easier. I can hear all the civil engineers agreeing.
That's the thing isn't it? In the age of sail we knew the Earth was roughly spherical. We didn't have to look down on it from satellites, we didn't have to go to space to see it for ourselves.
But now we have a gang of yahoos who thinks that the fact that they don't feel motion when they are standing still on the ground somehow proves that the earth must be stationary.
@@angelofdeath251 I do it for free.
@angelofdeath251 you can prove it to yourself by doing it, yourself. get out that bubble and actually broaden your mind. Oh, and Stop trolling 😂
University Geology Professor here. I love flat Earth. Students choose various flerf "proofs" and test them against reproduible, scientific measurements. Admittedly, a few students initially think there "might be something to" the ice wall, dome, flat Earth etc. But, once they test their own topic, I have yet to see anyone persist. BTW, this assignment is graded (by students in the class) based solely on their research, testing, and presentation, not on their conclusion. I LOVE flerf!
Have you ever thought about inviting one popular flat earther to your course, so they get the tools they need to test there theory?
@@alexgloomandor3956The problem is the popular flerfs wouldn’t accept the invite, much less accept the results.
That's amazing!!! Well done to you for taking something as toxic and delusional as flat earth and using it to educate young minds. I tip my hat to you.
@@alexgloomandor3956Did you see the netflix documentary that did that?
@@goldenalt3166 no. What's the name of the documentary?
I'm grateful to Mark for trying to convince my friends and coworkers, it will make the problem of weeding out the idiots much easier :D
I love how his argument basically is ”everyone is laughing at us, but at least they are playing attention to us.”
Like the child that throws the vase on the floor so at least his parents won't ignore him anymore. Kinda sad.
There is no such thing as bad PR!
Any publicity is good publicity 🤷♂️
@@0x777 Or like a conservative.
Lol the flerfs sharing that poll like crazy and it still only showing as 37% for flat Earth and 63% for globe. In reality I bet less than 10% of people think the Earth is flat.
You know, during my PhD time (4y), I 've written 13 papers where 3 were in high impact journals. Retrospectively, this is by no means that much, but at the time I became depressed once or twice because of them. These sorry excuses of clowns say that they have "proven" and "researched" what they are preaching, yet I can't seem to find any publications. Not even unpublished ones. C'mon give me some papers to read. After all, 1 publication / year should be easy for such great scholars.
Correct. When they say we are nod doing research, this is 100% psychological projection.
I met Mark at their conference in Auckland, New Zealand, in 2019. Didn't really have a conversation but during my presentation against their bullshit, he asked me what I thought about their cold moonlight experiments. My reply, "Absolute nonsense".
I don't recall any further discussion on that.
Didn't know that someone can argue on their conventions against flerfism 🤔
Cold moonlight. I remember that. One experiment included taking temperature readings inside a window. Science at its finest! /end sarcasm font/
Ah yes, Cold Moonlight. At least two arguments go against Cold Moonlight:
1. Repeat the experiment twice in the exact same setup under nearly the same outdoor conditions. Once with a full moon, and once with a new moon. You will see that the temperature measurements will be nearly the same relative to each other. This proofs that at least the moonlight itself is not what is cooling.
2. There are two hypthesis as to what the light o the moon is. Either a reflection from the suns light, or self-illuminating. If you assume the reflected sunlight is strong enough to even have an effect on us, it should be warming things up, like the sun at day. However, the Cold Moonlight experiments show a cooling effect under "direct moonlight". Therefore, it couldn't be reflected light from the sun (all good, it's not like FE believes that anyway). If the moon self-illuminates it might be another type of light that actually takes away energy from its surroundings, which would create a cooling effect. However, the moon is not self-illuminating. If you look at it with even a good camera zoomed in, you can see shadows on craters on its surface. A self-illuminating object does not have shadows on its surface, so it's also not that. Therefore, you have the only two possibilities where the moonlight comes from, and none fit the observations. Which would make you believe that your experiement is just invalid.
@@christophsiebert1213 " If the moon self-illuminates it might be another type of light that actually takes away energy from its surroundings" Give literally one example of light that drains energy.
@@christophsiebert1213 Another example: The lunar filter, which is screwed onto the inside of my telescope's eyepiece becomes notably warm after 30 minutes of lunar observation.
Moonlight is obviously not cooling. 😃
Met a flerf in real life today, he said "there's too many flat earthers now"... Basically confirming the real reason he believes is to feel special knowing a secret.
That's actually really interesting. That they feel special because they think this.
Even if most people think that the Earth is flat, that still doesn’t make it flat. Nothing that Mark said is attempting to discover what the actual shape of the Earth is.
Well when your MO is to ignore proof and cry CGI regarding anything that has to do with space, discovery and proof have nothing to do with it. The shape of the earth has been hypothesized for over 2000 years. Now that we can go there and have a working model of how celestial bodies move, most people have moved on. Mark and anyone else believing in this are only arguing with themselves.
Imagine if the shape of the world was formed by consensus... LOL
Mark is performing the very definition of the word hubris here.
It's actually stunning how utterly arrogant this comes across, the lack of self awareness almost makes this satire
That and his constant references to how they're controlling things, the "hivemind", we're all gonna suffer while they laugh once they've been vindicated, they all just need to wait while someone else pulls the strings for them because they know they can't, all very dystopian authoritarian stuff. Insufferably arrogant and dangerously autocratic. Very Christian of him.
Proud to have been part of the SciManFam since the beginning. The channel just keeps going from strength to strength. Here's to 500,000 more!
Same
If you line up all your subscribers head to toe, they would stretch half way across the flat earth
😂@@martinjohnfox
Just a reminder - he promised to delete his channel if someone emailed him a picture of the curve. This has now happened dozens of times and he has not deleted the channel.
It would be nice if YT deleted Mark’s channel for him. I think it would go something like this. “ Dear Mark Sargent. We note that you promised to delete your channel if certain evidence was presented to you. We also see that such evidence HAS been presented, multiple times. We can only assume that your failure to delete your channel is an oversight, so, to save you the trouble, we have deleted it for you. Happy to help!”
@@booboyBL ha ha if only!
@@booboyBL he would just take it out of context and use it to prove the government is after him.
@booboyBL See that would be a single point of evidence to a conspiracy to silence flat earth. It's nothing on its own. Simply withering on the vine. But flat earthers have subsisted on literally nothing for years. Having a single point would make them go insane. It would either revitalize the movement or make them so ridiculous the movement would tear itself apart
Come on, next you want to take his meth and crack too?!!! 😄😁😆😂
Notice his reason for being optimistic about flat earth was not "The physical evidence proves it is true." The whole affair he described has produced exactly 0 pieces of solid physical evidence, despite having gotten far more attention than it deserved. They've had ample opportunity to prove their claims and the reality is, they can't.
Well its a grift. He knows it's bullshit. This video of his is just a manipulation tactic to make easily swayed people think they need to join flat earth to not be socially ostracized.
If he didn't think it was bullshit he'd be hiding in a bunker with a gun pointed at the door waiting for the government to break it down and kill him. Unless he is so monumentally egotistical he just thinks the government just can't think of a single way to permanently shut him up. Their simultaneously this evil shadow cabal run by Satan. And simply to incompetent to pull a leafyishere and wipe them from the internet entirely. Which can happen at literally any time
In fairness to Mark, he never stated that the evidence for Flat Earth was strong, more that the movement that believes in Flat Earth is strong. I'm not sure he proved that either. The biggest Flat Earth youtubers have merely 350k subscribers. Meanwhile a couple of guys watching things blow up in slow motion have 26million subscribers. A scottish guy talking about how shit movies are has 1.8M subscribers. And a guy rebuilding a Cessna has about 690 thousand subscribers. So they're hardly making any impact at all on RUclips's top subscribed channels. Hell even Dan has more subscribers
@@tedferkin Just imagine how many subscribers they would get if one day just one of them presented a flat Earth model that explained seasons, tides, eclipses, planetary transits in front of the Sun, and everything else that is perfectly predictable with the globe model. They're not going to get many with videos of a guy holding a flashlight over a model explaining how night works.
@@scottlarson1548 *_if one day just one of them presented a flat Earth model that explained seasons, tides, eclipses, planetary transits in front of the Sun, and everything else that is perfectly predictable_*
I keep asking for any of them to do just this. If any one of them could do this they would be famous and would likely change the world as we know it. The silence is deafening.
"We were doing conferences during the pandemic when nobody else was!"
Not really something to brag about. So you got a bunch of people who dont believe the Earth is round and, coincidentally, dont believe a virus is real, to come gather in a small area during a time when everyone else knew it wasnt safe.
Great job! Kudos to you! You're doing terrific!
Regardless of what the flat earth loser does in his spare time… the so called pandemic really wasn’t all it was cracked up to be… sure Covid was a real virus… but it wasn’t nearly as ‘unsafe’ as y’all made it out to be… no more or less unsafe than I feel around flu season, granted I don’t get sick easily… but even my family and friends who get sick every other week were fine… apparently my uncle caught covid… though he never noticed so it’s hard to say.
Fun fact: the high number of deaths & long-term damage amongst antivaxxers was claimed, by flerfs & others, to be proof of a conspiracy against them (and that the deaths were targeted assassinations).
Because cause & effect don't seem to matter to conspiracy nuts.
Considering the way that governments jumped onboard the censorship trains regarding covid (including youtube, facebook, and other social media outlets) just like they did with other political/social narratives I can't say I blame them for this. Covid was awful yeah, but why is it that the solution for a pandemic that is highly adaptive is constantly pushing for repeated shots of a somewhat effective vaccine? Places like Japan of course took it extremely seriously and US citizens should be more hygienic and mindful when sick but the threat has been made worse because of the way they pushed their answer to the problem. The vaccines don't always work, fair enough, but intimidating and censoring people for not blindly supporting what was a rushed and unprecedented response by at least the US government specifically only made more people doubt the threat of it more. Doesn't help that there was the whole political assassination thing regarding Trump going on before and during that as well either. The Russian collusion lie was spread around and multiple persons lied directly to congress about 100% verified evidence of it and it's been shown that they never had any. Flat earthers are laughable but I worked through the pandemic, I lived through seeing the panic, and I know plenty of people who had Co-Vid after getting all the jabs for it. I can't say I blame the Flerfers for adding the unprecedented response from an untrustworthy or at least highly incompetent government as some kind of test to see how much they can control citizens. Both political parties in the US have a history of intentionally twisting history and of collaborating to take platforms away from "independent" and "third party" political opponents so that they are all but forced to run as a republican or democrat so at least as far as the States go I can get why they would still hold meetings in person if the people meeting where in fact healthy just like we all do when influenza spreads around every single year.
Not really all interchangeable. The virus was real, but people take risks on their own accord and decide for themselves what is dangerous to them and what isn't. I decide whether I stand in a room with people or not
@@brandonhill2183 My reply to this got deleted apparently😂 The issue with the virus specifically in the US was how the government so uncharacteristically decided this was the thing to shut down social gatherings and private businesses for when other outbreaks of serious viruses are handled more locally and like you said we are trusted to reason the risks of them. You are considered intelligent enough to decide whether or not you want to meet with other people you know when influenza rolls around despite it countless people throughout history and being highly adaptive and that is perfectly acceptable. But if no one in a group had CoVid or was around anyone who had CoVid it was still forbidden to meet up at church anyway. Didn't help with the way the relatively poorly effective vaccines were pushed en masse and we ended up with more dangerous strains of CoVid as a result from how many did not work for many people. It is a real thing and something to be careful of but I can't blame the flerfies for gathering unless someone can prove the people there knew they were compromised.
6:09 „We have essentially won“… man, this is Dunning-Kruger in all its splendor! 🤣 congrats on the 500.000, proud to be one of them and not the „Flat Earth Army“ 🤣
Yeah, it’s a giant cope by the leaders of this grift, who can’t handle or recognize, how this entire fad is over; people have walked over to the next conspiracy. Flat earth is dead.
Mark is a knowing conman, not a flat earth believer. That's why he's articulate and reasonable but it's also why he puts out videos like this that are nothing but rhetoric and don't really have anything to do with pretending the Earth is flat. He wasn't even insisting that the Earth is flat here, only that "more people are becoming flat Earthers", according to him. That level of distancing is very telling and he does it during interviews and on talk shows, as well.
This is my insight too and frankly I am slightly concerned by how many people here are responding to his "content" for the lack of a better word.
I've seen some Flat Earthers whom I am convinced believe in the flat earth but Mark Sargent has from the first second I laid eyes on him struck me as a classic Con Man.
True. I've been saying this for years. I don't believe for one second that these people truly believe the Earth is flat. Perhaps they did initially when coming across flat earth content, but not anymore... Mark, CC, LEO. I just don't buy it.
In the same league as televangelist and Alex jones
@@forthehomies7043Now, come on. CC definitely believes this shit, poor guy.
Not only is CC definitely a believer, he's so far gone that he'll be making newspaper headlines if he doesn't get a serious mental health intervention soon. LEO is 90% a believer. His content is kind of poe-ish but I don't think he's smart enough to pull off a convincing poe for so long.
Mark is just a demagogue fighting a losing battle. His fame is fading out, his bank-account is drying up. And his “flat-facts” didn’t hold up. Speeches like these only shows the urgency in his desperation. Soon he will be nothing more than a failed and forgotten meme …
TRUTH! Just like trump.
@@theultimatereductionist7592 Nah, it's the idiots in america that elect things like trump, trump set that standard, he's gone his near identical replacement will appear, because that's what a lot of really stupid americans want.
It's like he's trying to sound like Anonymous lol
@@theultimatereductionist7592 Why are lefties so triggered, they just cant help themselves and keep from talking about Trump. Talk about living in peoples heads rent free!!!!
Mark Sargent's definition of "critical thinking":
1. Reject anything that doesn't comport with his view of reality, especially if it's backed by icky science.
2. For those things that do fit his FLERF view:
2a. presuppose they are all true
2b. try to invent clever-ish talking points to make them seem plausible, at least in his own head
2c. prattle on about them endlessly until he convinces himself that they are true
3. Not view MCToon's video that was requested
Definition of Mark sargent is a liar.
It's the old adage of "I don't believe A, because who told me A turned out to be a liar, but I also never learned how to test and verify what I'm told, so I'll now instead believe B for the same reason I originally believed A: Jack sh.., other than it not being A".
You forgot a couple:
3. Yell up basement stairs to Mom to ask her to make him a grilled cheese.
4. Sit in corner and stare at picture of Patricia Steere, crying.
you forgot "Mark Sargent and his followers threaten violence b/c no one will take them seriously enough"
Mark Sergent is so scared of being irrelevant now his numbers are dropping to zero. He may even have to go out and get an actual job. Devastating!
Maybe he can get a job as a used car salesman. He has experience in selling BS to gullible people.
Doesn't he live with his mom?
this phenomenon is so amazing. there's so many intricate layers of flat-earthers' psyche that fold in on themselves and feed off one another: their ignorance supplies their arrogance, which supports their self-importance and mirrors their paranoia rooted in ignorance, like a perpetual motion machine that creates its own energy. truly incredible
This, by definition, is what conspiracy theorists do.
@@Denebreus no it's not. Completely different. It only applies to conspiracy theories that arent true, not objective thought.
Congrats on half a mil, Dan! Thanks for all the quality content over the years. 💜
I remember when he still had 20,000 subscriptions. How that time passes.
I'll take "Does not understand they're the butt of the joke" for 100, Alex.
One thing that social media has done It makes it easier for self-aggrandizing people to run their mouth and tout how awesome they are with no real evidence to back it up
Like "Truth Social". A site dedicated to cultists telling Trump how great he is.
@@FelixBat
And you felt the need to bring this BS into the mix why?
@@thatmar1neguy I was giving an example of social media doing what you said. The role of cult leaders.
@@FelixBat
Ok simple logic, though most cult leaders are long in the tooth with self aggrandizement, not all whom self aggrandize are cult leaders
@@FelixBat Why cant lefties get Trump out of their heads??? What is wrong with you people, well I really shouldnt ask, its pretty obvious.
Hilarious that Mark imagines Flerfs could launch any Military endeavor when the Aim of any Military is to overwhelm the enemy through superior Intelligence, a Flerf Army could not calculate the trajectory of the simplest artillary strike.
Not to mention that the military uses many weapon systems that often have to take the curve of the earth into consideration to work (e.g. artillery and naval guns). So if the "flerf army" tries to fight using a fast earth model. They will get outshot very easily.
@@mattyb7183 Exactly what I meant! Don't even mention satellites! It is too ludicrous these people!
Superior intelligence *_AND_* superior numbers, neither of which do they have.
@@John_Smith_60 True!
@@mattyb7183 Would love to see them explain the math behind those calculations. Would be dodging so many bullets trying to avoid mentioning a curve.
I feel so incredibly sorry for anyone having to deal with this guy in their everyday lives
C C is worse. He's hard to listen to.
@@alanbiker5838Is that the guy who makes his videos in the car so his wife doesn't call him an effin' idiot on the air?
@@0x777That's him.
@@0x777 C C is playing a character in order to make money. Why else would he have kept the clip of his wife calling him out. He does make entertaining content. And we all willingly go along for the ride.
@@j.hueston4370 Speak for yourself.
He doesn't know everyone watches to laugh at them? This is comedy gold!
i dont think these people realize that alot of people watch flat earth crap (me included) because it is utterly baffling to us how stupid they can be. we just love hearing their poor reasons. makes me feel smart. XD
I'm subscribed to a Few of them because it's pure Comedy and Yes absolutely Buffling that there are people that believe the earth is Flat
I think this is true, I think a lot of these channels have more people watching them because they think they are ridiculous than people watching them because they actually support them. Incidentally I think it's the same situation with those 5 minute craft channels that show all sorts of ridiculous completely impractical and often dangerous projects. I don't think anyone takes them seriously, I just think a lot of people watch them to laugh at them.
Yep, as bad a things might get, at least I'm not those guys
Yes, they simply dont seem to understand that watching a video has absolutely no correlation to whether the viewer agrees or disagrees with the content. To equate this bluntly, millions of people watch the news over the troubles with Israel/Palestine, but no one(not even these flerfs) would then claim millions of people support hamas.
Recently copped a great YT short of some poor soul trying to explain metres/kilometres to Nathan Oakley.
I have actually met one person that became a flat Earther. Totally scientifically illiterate, not even worth arguing with. That's one in over sixty years. Long way to go Mark.
Edit: Beavers have always been popular.
I know one as well, he’s the most ignorant person you can imagine, not just in his belief in pizzaworld. I didn’t’t even bother to argue with him as he knows everything about everything and is as dumb as a rock.
Edit: I love beavers.
I work with a flat earther, but not totally convinced he isn't just hamming it up for the laughs. He also talks about birds are drones.
Based on my calculations there are about 20,000 worldwide. Maybe 30k.
I haven't met a single one in 40 years. I can only see them occationally in YT videos ^^. Though I know anti-vaxxers, , anti-science and alt-med-people. Though even though a lot of them are way into woo, the concept of a flat-earth is severals level below them.
@kirkcharlton1308 the birds thing sounds absurd but they actually believe it. There's a flat earther at my work.
I subscribed to a Flat Earth channel because I think it is extremely entertaining and I love to watch these people making fools of themselves.
The Dunning-Krueger effect is major here. Mark thinks FE is so mainstream and is taking over but is somehow over looking the fact that everyone just tunes into flat earth videos just to laugh at them.
I don't subscribe to them not because of scared of what my friends and family would, the amount of conspiracy theorists I know is staggering, but because I don't want to subject myself to brain rot. I follow debunkers, like Dan, because I usually learn something new.
I won't subscribe either, but that's because some of them charge to subscribe and I won't give them a penny (mainly because I don't have any spare). At least Dan's is free, but I still opted to follow instead. I was rubbish at science when in school, 40+ years ago (understatement of the millenium there) so I find Dan's explanations nice and simple, as I do of other debunkers - FTFE, Conspiracy Catz, Creaky Blinder etc.
@@richs8754I have no need to subscribe to those idiots; I get enough FE content here and with Creaky et al.
I'm sometimes - sometimes - tempted to view the original material, but I don't want to give them one additional view.
Just the few bits I see blended in on debunker videos makes hair grow on my teeth there is no way in hell I would watch them or even worse sub to them, I can´t take their shit longer than 2 minutes stright. Thats why I am sorry to say I cant watch FTFE, I like Graig but hearing a flat earther talk more than 2 minutes just makes me wanna puke not to forget the headinjuries I have to endure from all those facepalms.
My wife can't even watch these videos, much less the actual flerfer videos. It's all too infuriating for her, even watching someone debunk their BS is too much to bear.
@@CD_Characterwhy? The more views they have, the more content they will produce. Isn't that what you want?
‘No motion has been detected’. Bob Knodel, were he still alive, would beg to differ.
Your „enemies“ are just in your head, Mark! Everything you say is just in YOUR head. You have to realize the GRAVITY of this situation.
No pun intended? 😂
🤷♂😁
I'm not a physicist and have forgotten most of the physics I learned 50 years ago, but every flatearther I have been debating, specially on Quora, just stop answering when I point out that the arguments they end up using actually prove the earth is a spehere, 😂
My favorite was the bloke who said that if the Earth was round, then Polaris (North star) would drop in the sky and disappear below the horizon as you travelled South. As he had never been out of his basement then his argument was true. QED globeheads!
Physicists.
Physicians are medical Drs.
@@FreeFlyerUk Thank you, corrected. Missed the autocorrect there, but I am neither a physicist nor a physician 😅
@@Eirran2 No worries mate.
My question to them is what makes up the bottom side of the earth? One said lava. Me: What prevents the lava from drifting away. FE: the dome. Me: ok, so a dome like the one over us? FE: yes. Me: so the flat earth is globally covered by two semi hemispherical domes? FE: (crickets).
Guy actually makes it sound like a zombie apocalypse rather than an outrageous belief
well, he's a christian, so the accurate way to describe him is a death cultist with no intellect, they're pretty damn near zombie levels.
"Because behind the scenes, we are still the biggest secret guilty pleasure of the Internet." - uh oh, he doesn't know what the Internet is for
Cat videos…right?
Would explain the beaver searches
In fairness, porn isn't a secret
Tatjana is certainly doing well out of it :)
Congrats, this made me laugh !!
I remember that the day after that flat Earth documentary aired, everyone at work was talking about it and having a good laugh at the stupidity of it. These are people who had no interest in the subject before that, and pretty much no interest later on. The idea of the Earth being flat is so absurd to them that it’s not worth their time thinking about it.
Out of interest. How would you easily prove that earth is not flat?
Laughing at flat earthers is easy but most people can't say why they know earth is round
@@albertoandrade9807 As long as the flat-earthers can’t prove the earth is flat, no one has to prove it isn’t.
@@albertoandrade9807Probably because all of science has evidence for it and all the phenomena we experience are easily explained on a globe but not a flat earth.
There‘s also loads of pictures of it from space, easy to quickly find one at any given situation in this age.
The evidence is overwhelming, if flerfs want to dismiss the evidence they better come up with some compelling evidence themselves.
@@albertoandrade9807 Sail blue water at night. Simple. Watch the moon rise, pass overhead and then set. Watch the sun rise at sea. Simple. Use your eyes, no scientific knowledge needed. Just a working brain.
Then try to fix your position using a sextant and a chronograph. If you can prove to me that a sextant works on a flat earth, I will nominate you for a Nobel Prize.
By the way, any flat Earther needs to show me the following: -
1. an accurate, definitive "Flat Earth" map or chart,
2. the distance and size of the Sun, and how sunrises and sunsets work,
3. the distance and size of the moon, and how the moon's phases work,
4. how the Earth's magnetic field is generated (and show where the South Magnetic pole is situated),
5. how tides work and why and how the tidal range varies with the phases of the Moon.
There, that'll do for starters. Next time we'll get on to the really difficult scientific stuff.
@@albertoandrade9807 Rooftop TV satellites. In the N. hemisphere they point south, toward the "ecliptic" which is where the geosynchronous satellites are that transmit the signal. In the S. hemisphere they point north, because the equator is north of them. Guess what? At the equator, the dishes must point straight up in order to get the signal. Key point: If you block the dish with a big old piece of metal, you'll lose the signal. These dishes work in the middle of the ocean as well, so you cannot say that the TV signal comes from cell towers. So, rooftop TV dishes work the same as GPS receivers do with their satellites, except you can physically witness where the satellites are by looking at the rooftop dishes and triangulating the spot they're all pointing at. Look around your town: all dishes are pointing south. Go on google Earth and pick an australian city. The dishes all point north. You can see it yourself.
Once upon a time, pretty much everybody thought the world was flat. That didn't mean it was.
OMG I agree with Mark Sargent on the most significant thing he has ever said. *"Elon Musk is not your friend".*
Yeah that was the only thing I agreed with him on 😂
@@TomDarkwulf87why?
Mad because people aren't being silenced?
Because he's doing great with Space X?
Why? Envy?
@@Hamphield No. Because they see with open eyes and a clear head instead of ignoring factors that don't jive with an agenda.
@@Hamphield
Musk deserves as much credit for SpaceX as Chris Kempczinski does for making Big Macs to feed people.
Envious of an inherited blood emerald fortune? Not so much.
@@Hamphield Musk is a toxic anti-Semite out for a buck. Plus he tries to screw with society. He's just another Sargent.
Congratulations, Dan! So happy for you hitting half a million!!!
Unless I’m mistaken, didn’t MC Toon provides Mark the evidence he demanded that would make him “quit flat earth?”
Oh, wait: he was never gonna do that. He just backed out of his promise. Go figure. 🙄
Mark refuses to even watch the video. MCToon only sent the link to Mark.
@@TsudicoMark's literally doing the internet equivalent of putting his fingers in his ears & shouting "la la la, I can't hear you!"
All flerfers do this. They all deny any evidence against them.
This makes me so mad. They have literally proven earth’s rotation, the earths curve, seen the ISS with their own eyes and STILL toss the evidence off. Aren’t they now being the shady ones that they accuse nasa of doing? They are not immune to human nature.
The irony of flerfdom.
He is supposed to be giving up flat earth after a challenge he issued has been met.
Flat Earthers are incredibly optimistic for people whose world view gets railed hard twice a day by the actions of the sodding Sun being inexplicable for them.
I love that cat. Cat's thinking, "This is my chair. I'll let you borrow it to do your stupid video."
It just proves what Flerfs really want!
ATTENTION.
And being important.
I searched for “is there a person which could be considered leader of earth?” and got a very different set of results. Needless to say, Mark wasn’t there.
Almost as if Mark Sargent's search engine I'd calibrated by his own search history! They never realise do they...
@@deGooderactually that's not what's going on. I have never searched his name or anything like that, but I did the search and I found the same thing. Actually what happened is a radio station website has an article posted about him, and the headline of the article describes him as "leader of the flat earth movement". That headline contains the words "leader", "of", "the", and "Earth", so Google returns it as seemingly being relevant to the search query.
That's it. It's just an accident. What I want to know is how long he had to search to find that. Or perhaps he knew of the article and knows how Google works so he tried to reverse engineer a search term that would accidentally lead to it?
I don't know. It just doesn't look good that he's making it look like he is spending all this time googling himself.
@@NomadSoul76that’s right, Doctor Who was the world leader in one episode
@@NomadSoul76 Thanks for your hints. I searched for "Debunked leader of the earth" and guess what, he is showing up on place 1.
Good old Mark, always good for a laugh.
My search for leader of earth produced a Marvel database entry for The Leader (a character introduced in Hulk comics); a Forbes article on the most powerful national leaders with a photo of Putin; the article on Mark; and an article on the Earth nation from Avatar: The Last Airbender. (Plus, three more Marvel articles on various different takes on The Leader.)
To me,this sounds like the ramblings of a dying man,trying to build up some courage while facing the inevitable outcome.
Congrats for the milestone,Dan!
Come to think of it - you may be right.
Every lonely conspiacy theory ends this way. "We are actually everywhere and everyone is just secretly supporting us"
First question for Mark if aliens do invade is "Where did they come from?" 🤫
They used a glass cutter on the dome. Unfortunately, now all the air is escaping because the vacuum is sucking it all away.
" We`ll be coming for you" sounds a lot like a threat to me !
congratulations on getting to half a million, keep it coming Dan. 😊👍
It’s so ironic that when he was talking about other flat earth channels each one had a different model of the fat Earth. Mark’s has the North Pole in the center of his model while Jeranism has Africa in the center of theirs. The fact that they can’t produce a simple model of the flat earth is hilarious.
😊 The flat Earth seemed confused that in the modern world and in the past we've been able to get all over the planet with maps and yet they can't make a map of their world. Hilarious
😂😂😂
I thought jeranism and sargent were the same person!!!
I noticed on his flat earth map that Australia appears to be about three times as wide from east to west as the distance from north to south. In reality it’s about 4000 kms each way. Having driven from north to south I can confirm that measurement. That should make it about 12,000 kms wide (33% larger than Russia)
gotta love the irony of him literaly showing a video of a dude going in space and filming it showing the earth isnt flat
Dude doesn't realize that google searches are personalized based on history. He comes up in the search because he's googled himself so much already.
Lol! I'm surprised Dan missed that point
I just checked and he was listed as leader of the FLAT earth society. Also some cartoon images were shown. What he has proven is that google algorithm needs some serious work.
Just love how flerfers equate some clicks on the internet with anything in the real world. Especially reality itself.
Congratulations on reaching 500k!
CONGRATULATIONS, SIR!!!!
They were putting on conferences and filling rooms crammed with flatearthers while everybody else was at home because nobody knew at that time how dangerous that pandemic was. That must be critical thinking.
What pandemic?
@@benjaminlambert8944the one that killed many many people. You may have missed it, it was easy for the ignorant.
There is a very strong correlation between flerfers and antivaxers. Flerfers usually think COVID is some kind of hoax to "control people" for no obvious reason.
@@benjaminlambert8944 it might be the one that killed 7 million people worldwide, and counting?
@@benjaminlambert8944ok flerf
I don't think I could survive a head injury serious enough to turn me into a flat earther.
Does Sargent expect anyone to believe him let alone even acknowledge him? What's he gonna do, gunpoint?
@RideAcrossTheRiver There were a lot of pictures of guns in that video, accompanied by threatening language.
Sargent is 100% right. "Delusional" is definitely the right word.
The sad thing is even if you could fly all the flat earthers up into space to show them the Earth they would still find some way to not believe it, there really is no hope for them. Good work on the channel Dan, keep it up! 🌍
I’ve been saying for years that the only way to convince them is to send one of them to space so they could literally see it for themselves but you’re probably right that they’d still argue that the Earth isn’t a globe.
@@Boyso5407a Virgin Galactic ticket costs $450k. You'd think that with the number of supporters they claim to have they could fundraise that in no time.
@@Boyso5407 When one flerfer was building a rocket to prove the earth is flat, the flerf leaders boasted that this was going to prove the earth flat, BUT also reminded that if it doesn't it would be because the wanna-be astronaut was using an old NASA spacesuit.
So, "in case it doesn't prove us right, it still won't prove us wrong." Not to mention I've already heard them literally use "eyes are round" as an excuse to not believe their own eyes.
@@TheRenofoxif a flat earther actually did go up in space he or she would claim that the spacecraft had fisheye windows, kind of like the fisheye lenses that they say all the pictures of the globe Earth have been taken with
@@sabbur15 All we need is a dollar from all of the subscribers here to send Mark to space! Too bad we can't pay double and leave him there.
I have time and sympathy for genuine flat earthers that have been duped into this belief. I don't for the likes of Dubay and Sargeant. I do not believe that they believe the nonsense they spout. The grift is obvious, disingenuous and morally corrupt.
I agree with you. I dont think they really believe in i this idiocy either. Grifters, every one of them.
Thanks Bob!!!
RIP
It's wild that he cites Vsauce when the whole video was talking about the absurdity of Flat Earth
It's sad because Mark presents himself well and does speak in a nice calm way. He sticks to his stuff and seems genuine. Wasting that on total delusion is just kind of crazy and it really sheds light on just how confused people can be. They can be well spoken and clean cut but just be so out there at the same time.
Except he's not genuine. I don't follow him enough to know but someone else in the comments said that he offered to quit flat earth entirely if someone would disprove something and someone did just that, and he just ignored it. Also the arguments he makes just in this video are dishonest.
He may seem that way, but he's a sleaze bag.
He isn't dillusionsl, he is just a conman. His apparent politeness and calm demeanor is just part of his pitch. It's not wasted... it's his primary way of making a living.
@johncoops6897 fully agree. Unlike the ones that are actual idiots ranting and simply parroting what they find others saying on the internet that can barely string a coherent sentence together, those like mark do actually know better, its a choice and should be viewed in the same manner as any entertainment broadcast.
I watched "Behind the Curve", and I couldn't help feeling he seemed like an innocent little child.
Well now we all know that data analysis is NOT one of Mark's strengths.
Love you Scimandan ... You are awesome
🎉🎉Congrats on half a million
He's well spoken for sure. I honestly enjoy listening to him talk, very radio friendly voice.
I have been laughing at Mark Sargent since forever. The highlight was seeing him get friend-zoned by Patricia Steele in the first flat earth movie.
I remember watching that, and it's the first thing I think of when I hear/read his name
Instant, visible, CC levels of despair.
Good job. You deserve it, plus more. Keep these idiots in check. 👍
"15... degrees an hour."
That silly woman with the gun “say gravity one more time”
Ok but let me use it in this question
Figure out the drop rate of the bullet you fire without considering gravity.
I wonder how a flat earther would explain the Coriolis effect. Just extra wind I guess
@@rando3939 they simply believe it’s a lie
Long time subscriber. Huge congratulations on hitting 500k - you deserve it. The globe needs more people like you challenging disinformation.
Well the leader of an army shouldn't be a liar, he promised to leave the movement if some one provided a picture of the curvature on a plane, and it has been done over and over and he's still there.
This is the problem with echo chambers. I think he genuinely believes what he is saying because what he sees on a daily basis is (what he perceives to be) a lot of people agreeing with him. The reality is, they are barely a drop in the ocean. There will always be those who gravitate to "anti-establishment" conspiracies - but the reality is, the only reason FE is ever a trending topic, or gets high views is because of how insanely ridiculous an idea it is. We're here for the fun!
Note - that's a drop in the "level" ocean.
/s
Mark Sargent, still as delusional as when he thought he had a shot at Patricia.
That is seriously one of the BIGGEST cats I've ever seen outside of an African safari!
The funny part is how many people probably voted for Flat Earth just "for the lulz"
I'd have lodged a protest vote against "oblate spheroid". Hate that term - earth is a full-on sphere within reasonable tolerance. It's as if we have to call every single table a skewed rectangle
@@muskyoxes earth is a standard shaped 3 dimensional object with all points an equal distant from the center with a tight margin of error. i guess you could say the mariana trench would be like a nick on it or something? places is scary deep.
@@angelofdeath251it is, approximately 11km,and yet that is not even 1% deviation. It is only a 1.7‰. So deviation is super small. A sphere is ok.
@@angelofdeath251 That trench isn't much compared to the radius. Words like "oblate" or "pear shaped" cause people to envision shapes that the earth isn't
Yeah, bit like registering your religion as 'Jedi'.
I'm over here just waiting for them to publish their flat earth model. Also claiming your movement is growing because you had a "conference" probably at some janky hotel that 20 people attended, doesn't really count.
And 16 of those were there just to see the clowns.
In was quite large, maybe 100 or more attendees. There's a video online of a guy who infiltrated and filmed inside... even asked questions in the Q&A section.
Oh they have models. I'm still waiting for one, though, that doesn't contradict itself when it tries to explain everything observed at the same time.
I got a gig videotaping speakers at a "convention" in Silicon Valley years ago. Yes, actual DV format videotape. As a guestimate maybe 300 or so over two days. Multiple seminars took place simultaneously with each having average 20 attendees, though one was at max capacity of 50. All the usual FE / UFO / moon travel topics. Seminars were more FE focused, merch venders were more UFO orientated.
Gem shows that are essentially row after row of rocks in trays attract a thousand times as many people as a flerf "convention". Those trays of rocks are also more intelligent.
It is more like a pie dropped from a second-story window.
When Mark realizes there are no “enemies” and it’s really just rationale vs ridiculous beliefs like Flat Earth Theory, he might then understand why he’s been embarrassed and humiliated over and over again. It’s denialism and it doesn’t help Mark or those like him.
This guy is clearly a victim of the internet algorithms that only show him stuff similair to what he watched before.
He lives in a flat earth bubble.
Bubbles are flat 😂
Don't Flat Earthers know that most of there views are from people that only watch them to have a good laugh.
Mark completely ignoring the fact that Mr. Beast went on a camping trip to Antarctica? 😂
All of those flat earth channels probably share subscribers. So the total number of flat earth subscribers and flat earth gawkers is even lower than he thinks.
That light appearing over head made me realise wat a bafoon i had been n quickly went about mending bridges..
Ironic that flat earthers value critical thinking so much yet they can’t seem to understand that most ppl watch their videos to have a laugh😂
You're both right in a roundabout way. The vehement criticism is what's brought them into the light. The majority of interest is from people who can't believe it's a thing, but it's attracted so many more fruit loops than would have got on board orherwise.
No way a spherical earth could support a cat that big Dan. Busted!