6:19 Skeleton calling "risking it for the biscuit" then aggroing two massive pulls at once, then panicking in the worst way deserved to die. Someone behind him just have put in serious work to keep those mobs at bay while he ran in circles for the first 30 seconds. This guy is the reason I don't dungeon.
You don't dungeon because you suck. Anyone can sit behind a good tank and clear stuff at a lazy pace. It's not rocket science. It is for you. First person to ever declare they suck in a comment while actually making it believable. I wouldn't dungeon with you thanks for the heads up.
Anyone can pull slow yes, but did you not literally just finish watching video evidence showing they don't, and can do reckless things? @@ProfessorThinker-zv5vt
lmao yes, untill you float into a giant camp of gnolls lol if they do this they should do so you drop directly down but doesnt take a single hp fall damage that can also be fucked up timed, but atleast you dont just SPLAT
You just need to heal the one taking damage. Healer can easily outheal that incoming damage for 3-4 casts. What could possibly go wrong ? Healer isn't reactive at all.
@@behindthescene2805 Healer not being reactive will get the blame. Thanks for showing us your inability to understand a short video about content you probably think you're knowledgeable about.
the worst part about the last clip is that he only casts that chain spell onto someone in melee range, but it chains to pets and totems and if just a single character stands mid-way between the melees and the range camp... well... bye bye
are you saying it chains in a different way on pets? or simply that they can be a problem if it's cast on them and there's a melee running towards him like it kind of looks like in the clip.
It chained from the tank to the owl pet to melee running towards the boss to the ranged group. @@Unavenged Would have been easily avoided if the ranged were farther from where the melee were fighting the snakes.
Thats such a risky way to do that pull though to just rely and noone connecting the groups. Instead just dont stack ranged, then you dont need every melee/pet to position perfect. Spread and live even if the chain goes out, its a trivial mechanic if you position right.
6:18, that whole pull is so fucked! trying to slip between 2 packs then just panic back n forth instead of running to LoS and making some calls. id never want that guy to tank for me
I'd never want someone with such a mindset to be in my group too. No need for whiners. You're gonna type longass comments instead of doing the dungeon. Nope, you're out.
If you're actually trying to be your best at the game hotkeys are not just helpful they're required. It's like an nba player having to look down and watch the ball while dribbling. Your mind is forced to multitask more than it needs to leaving errors in other things more likely.
Maaaan that last clip. The chain hit TWO hunter pets before going into the rest of the raid... One out of the 3 hunters lived, I hope it was the innocent one that lived 😂
@@Lors_101 The chain always starts in melee though and both the hunter pets were needed to chain it to the rest of the raid. Melee were even patiently staying out till phase 2
That was a clutch light of elune, but he might have lived that fall anyway. You can fall pretty far in WoW, not that I would have chanced it either, lol.
@@holyflygon Oh, he woulda been almost dead, if he lived, but pre-HC I was always doing long jumps on toons, and when achieves came out I was always looking for spots to do the fall achieve so I'm just basing my guess on that experience. I have to admit that the screen being blocked may be throwing me off, but my guess is road = dead, but on that hill, I think he would've had a couple hit points left. Funny story, one of the guys I knew who had been playing longer than me, I made toon on his server horde side. Me and him were grouped, I think his druid was forty something, I think my undead rogue was lvl 6. We take the zep to org, he jumps off, I jump off of after him, and he was surprised I lived. He didn't know fall damage was % based. IIRC, there was a HC druid dismount a while back where a druid did get dismounted and switched to cat before landing to live.
@@Mr.Sr.Jr. It just occurred to me that someone with the right level of autism could probably time the video, compare it to different timed falls, and estimate if he would have lived and give a range of % health he might have left.
for that reason i kinda only play pala in hc :D too much random dogshit that can kill you that is not in your hands. LoE every 5 min? hell yeah, sign me up :p pala ftw!
first clip he got poison procs... no he has poison ticking on him. Guzu doesn't understand what proc is. A poison DOT ticking is not proc. Proc is an activation of chance ability like HOJ extra swing, or crusader enchant activating, or if a weapon says chance to deal 30 damage. He is has been playing wow for how long and calling a dot tick a proc. And this been a recent thing calling non procs procs.
Heaps of people do this, and it's a pet peeve of mine. Proc stands for Periodic Random Occurrence, meaning that an On-Use trinket isn't a proc "I just procced my ToEP". A poison tick isn't a proc. People use it incorrectly so often. Weapons like Ironfoe, Sulfuras, Thunderfury and Drake Talon Cleaver a proc. Trinkets like Hand of Justice, Mark of the Chosen and Heart of Wyrmthalak have a proc. Not the biggest deal in the world, but words mean certain things and you're just going to cause confusion if you use 'proc' for any item effect in-game.
I don't know the range of the beam (never had it go off, lol), but pretty sure that huntard pet zooming in at 9:07 is what did them in by bridging the chain. Auto-pet attack macro or some shit and it directed it to Venoxis. It could have been a lack of mechanical awareness but it doesn't look like it to me. He could have went in too early with pet but either way, huntard screwed up and it cost them dearly.
Clicking is not fine cuz when you have to click and move at the same time you can't use mouse to use the camera and can fuck up so no clicking is not okay
Yeah I was thinking "LEAVE GROUP" at him while he just sits there screaming his head off. Honestly would've deserved the death, it's so funny to me how people die even after using Petri or having a Petri in their bags.
why do i see so many human mages die without mana and the OH from the lvl 10 mage quest isnt on their bars? it doesnt share a CD with pots and its a weapon so it can be equipped in combat....
I can understand some clicking of spells, but damn, he's clicking everything. I have smaller fingers, and still had plenty of macros/binds when I played. It's harder to watch than a back peddling melee player in PvP.
F*ck that black panther. I got PTSD from that clip. Exactly how I died on my 43 warrior. Ran out of a tricky situation, sat down to eat and that mfer crits me out of stealth because I sat down. Pfffft.
Guzu man it's kind of annoying when you show clips and do not comment about what boss they're fighting or area they're in. Please provide some context so the rest of us can keep up.
@@bobjones4469 dunno why to say. nobody considers binding high and mighty. its a basic thing. noobs will find anything to justify not bindin tho. always the boomers
3:13 Prime example for a group made of stupid. Group has 5 players, everybody could have called out the fact that this place needs to be cleared out first just in case someone doesnt know. They deserved that wipe and the hunter is rat, dont ever bring hunter or rogue into hardcore dungeons.
You can't really blame the hunter for FD in this situation, he wasn't the one that caused it and everyone was already dead when he used it. But yeah as a group someone should have known the sides will pull with the boss. A rat would have been running for the door the moment the boss was pulled without the sides cleared.
I rolled a rogue expecting to be grouped with players that will panic and cause a wipe. I wanted a guaranteed escape from dumbasses. I’m also not the type to just bail early, especially knowing I can at anytime. What’s so bad about a rogue like that
@@gregg9725 Because a lot of rogues vanish way before they have to and stop contributing to a wipe prevention. Hunters are worse though, because they cause more wipes with bad pet management + they get to survive. I personally wouldn't want to group with a rogue or hunter. The stakes are not the same for them at all, its like they get to play a lite version of HC. So they are playing a cheese version on top of the fact that cheese will cause them to abandon the group at the time you need everyone on deck. I've watched so many of these clips where the group wipe or a death could have been prevented simply if the hunter or rogue used one of their other abilities that didn't just eject them from the encounter.
Why are people still tolerating clicking? It was bad almost 20 years ago when vanilla came out now, but nowadays most/almost all games have keyboard inputs as well. Unless they only play Minesweeper/Solitaire besides WoW, which just might be true...
@@alihorda guy with hand disabilities here, I find it way more comfortable and 'easier' to use shift/ctrl/alt modifiers and keybinds for everything than moving my mouse around to click. I never run out of keybinds since I use 1 to = with shift, ctrl, alt, as well as the letter keys surrounding WAD with modifiers.
@@Drylands oh my…. Clearly you have never tried both. You must think your the best clicker in the world. Play how you want. But know those precious seconds while you move your eyes to find the button and you move your mouse to click. Players may die and your dps may suffer. That’s just my opinion and experience
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6:19 Skeleton calling "risking it for the biscuit" then aggroing two massive pulls at once, then panicking in the worst way deserved to die. Someone behind him just have put in serious work to keep those mobs at bay while he ran in circles for the first 30 seconds. This guy is the reason I don't dungeon.
You don't dungeon because you suck. Anyone can sit behind a good tank and clear stuff at a lazy pace. It's not rocket science. It is for you. First person to ever declare they suck in a comment while actually making it believable. I wouldn't dungeon with you thanks for the heads up.
Anyone can pull slow yes, but did you not literally just finish watching video evidence showing they don't, and can do reckless things? @@ProfessorThinker-zv5vt
are you the skeleton?@@ProfessorThinker-zv5vt
@@ProfessorThinker-zv5vtthis guy clearly is skeleton
@@markxv2267 Nah I'm fine in Frontier with my Warr. I've tanked dungeons with noob players. Smooth run still.
Blizzard needs to add a slowfall when dismounted from flight paths that removes when you are on the ground just to fix that nonsense.
Blizzard has bigger problems than worrying about hardcore classic.
@@bobjones4469that’s where most of the player base is rn dipshit lmao
lmao yes, untill you float into a giant camp of gnolls lol
if they do this they should do so you drop directly down but doesnt take a single hp fall damage
that can also be fucked up timed, but atleast you dont just SPLAT
2:00 taunt resisted twice here. Warrior is 4 levels below the boss and cannot generate threat. what could possibly go wrong here
You just need to heal the one taking damage. Healer can easily outheal that incoming damage for 3-4 casts. What could possibly go wrong ? Healer isn't reactive at all.
@@ProfessorThinker-zv5vt and healer get aggro and die?
tank should never be 4 levels lower@@ProfessorThinker-zv5vt
@@ProfessorThinker-zv5vtfound the person who always blame the healer for everything.
@@behindthescene2805 Healer not being reactive will get the blame. Thanks for showing us your inability to understand a short video about content you probably think you're knowledgeable about.
Mages. If you’re sketched out about a pull, drop a portal. It lasts 60 seconds, and can be the difference between getting out and going agane
I don't know why I'm so silly but I never thought about the portal drop
Pretty big
The korean clip might have been fine until the hunter pet went in. The boss only hits melee targets with chain lightning.
Thought the same thing... huntard and his pet lol.
Hunters are the same everywhere i guess
The hunter single handedly killed an entire raid of level 60 guys on hardcore. That's hillarious
crazy how many ppl are dedicated enough to hit 60 and gear up in HC yet dont learn fight mechanics
@@RoAoG yea their name is mitchjones
the worst part about the last clip is that he only casts that chain spell onto someone in melee range, but it chains to pets and totems and if just a single character stands mid-way between the melees and the range camp... well... bye bye
Yeah, was it the hunter pet I saw that started it all or just the caster on the entrance side that started it all?
are you saying it chains in a different way on pets? or simply that they can be a problem if it's cast on them and there's a melee running towards him like it kind of looks like in the clip.
It chained from the tank to the owl pet to melee running towards the boss to the ranged group. @@Unavenged
Would have been easily avoided if the ranged were farther from where the melee were fighting the snakes.
at least prior to level 50. but yea dungeons are too risky with randoms. especially pre lvl 30 randoms
Thats such a risky way to do that pull though to just rely and noone connecting the groups.
Instead just dont stack ranged, then you dont need every melee/pet to position perfect. Spread and live even if the chain goes out, its a trivial mechanic if you position right.
3:49 “Aspect of Running Slow” 🤣
6:18, that whole pull is so fucked! trying to slip between 2 packs then just panic back n forth instead of running to LoS and making some calls. id never want that guy to tank for me
I'd never want someone with such a mindset to be in my group too. No need for whiners. You're gonna type longass comments instead of doing the dungeon. Nope, you're out.
Never gets old seeing AOE mages die rip bozzo back to elewyn
Youre just jealous
rip bozzo back to elewyn@@Mati-mk5wd
Go back and stay go back.
@@NoksUndKutten what? lol
If you're actually trying to be your best at the game hotkeys are not just helpful they're required. It's like an nba player having to look down and watch the ball while dribbling. Your mind is forced to multitask more than it needs to leaving errors in other things more likely.
0:30 nah, being a clicker is totally not fine. HUUUGE loss of performance and/or awareness
Oh that was just beautiful in SM, totally deserved wipe because of pure laziness
Is ZG different in korea? Man that chain needs to be made into a new constellation for HC, right above stv a night
bro how do you run SM cathedral and not clear the whole room ?!
You just saw a clip. Open your eyes.
@@ProfessorThinker-zv5vt the question was "HOW"! smartass
SM Cath pull can be easily done, but only if you have 2 mage+lock or 3 mages and 2 palas.
"It can be easily done if you have the best AoE comp"
well, no shit, most people still mess it up.
You can do it with few other comps, but "easily" yes, imagine, best comp is best.
No, you can do it with regular dps. Just need engineering. Why such weird limits xD. Must be a very toxic player.
That first guy named his first bind HC 😂
the starting death of mage didn't use fire ward or dampen magic, could of sheeped a caster as well
Maaaan that last clip.
The chain hit TWO hunter pets before going into the rest of the raid... One out of the 3 hunters lived, I hope it was the innocent one that lived 😂
I mean it wasn't really the hunter pets. The whole raid spaced out perfectly for a chain for some reason
@@Lors_101 The chain always starts in melee though and both the hunter pets were needed to chain it to the rest of the raid. Melee were even patiently staying out till phase 2
That was a clutch light of elune, but he might have lived that fall anyway. You can fall pretty far in WoW, not that I would have chanced it either, lol.
a rogue and druid 100% live that drop because of the reduced fall dmg but idk if that warrior was going to live
@@holyflygon Oh, he woulda been almost dead, if he lived, but pre-HC I was always doing long jumps on toons, and when achieves came out I was always looking for spots to do the fall achieve so I'm just basing my guess on that experience.
I have to admit that the screen being blocked may be throwing me off, but my guess is road = dead, but on that hill, I think he would've had a couple hit points left.
Funny story, one of the guys I knew who had been playing longer than me, I made toon on his server horde side. Me and him were grouped, I think his druid was forty something, I think my undead rogue was lvl 6. We take the zep to org, he jumps off, I jump off of after him, and he was surprised I lived. He didn't know fall damage was % based.
IIRC, there was a HC druid dismount a while back where a druid did get dismounted and switched to cat before landing to live.
He woulda lived. Wasn't that far..
@@Mr.Sr.Jr. It just occurred to me that someone with the right level of autism could probably time the video, compare it to different timed falls, and estimate if he would have lived and give a range of % health he might have left.
Yo dont you have connection to Blizard? They need to add slowfall when you go onto the flypath, this dismounting happend to me too.
I think that would be fair since you're not supposed to dismount like that!
Do you use RestedXP addon also like the guy in the clip?
@@andrewg3196 Nah, in dont like that, love to always go another path. totaly not into min maxing everything.
for that reason i kinda only play pala in hc :D too much random dogshit that can kill you that is not in your hands. LoE every 5 min? hell yeah, sign me up :p pala ftw!
@@Bastyyyyyy yea absolutley. i also only survived because i was able to bubble. It is one of the strongest classes in Vanilla for survivablility.
Guzu could you please put the links to these clips in the video description so we can go to the channels of the people featured?
first clip he got poison procs... no he has poison ticking on him. Guzu doesn't understand what proc is. A poison DOT ticking is not proc. Proc is an activation of chance ability like HOJ extra swing, or crusader enchant activating, or if a weapon says chance to deal 30 damage.
He is has been playing wow for how long and calling a dot tick a proc. And this been a recent thing calling non procs procs.
Heaps of people do this, and it's a pet peeve of mine. Proc stands for Periodic Random Occurrence, meaning that an On-Use trinket isn't a proc "I just procced my ToEP". A poison tick isn't a proc. People use it incorrectly so often.
Weapons like Ironfoe, Sulfuras, Thunderfury and Drake Talon Cleaver a proc. Trinkets like Hand of Justice, Mark of the Chosen and Heart of Wyrmthalak have a proc.
Not the biggest deal in the world, but words mean certain things and you're just going to cause confusion if you use 'proc' for any item effect in-game.
"Not the biggest deal in the world" says the guy writing an essay in the comments section 😂
10:05 how does this happen? people go into HC raid without looking up mechanics first?
pretty much, or remembering them wrong
yep
I don't know the range of the beam (never had it go off, lol), but pretty sure that huntard pet zooming in at 9:07 is what did them in by bridging the chain. Auto-pet attack macro or some shit and it directed it to Venoxis. It could have been a lack of mechanical awareness but it doesn't look like it to me. He could have went in too early with pet but either way, huntard screwed up and it cost them dearly.
I was arrogant in the second round.
Yes, it's more fun that way. Hardcore just doubles the fun.
so on the first death. all those little stone things with the piece of wood sticking out at like 0:49 are safe spots
Clicking is not fine cuz when you have to click and move at the same time you can't use mouse to use the camera and can fuck up so no clicking is not okay
The last clip with the asian guy, he actually doesn't leave the group, so I guess his character is lost as well kek
he survived. he left party and boss didnt come back till he ported
Yeah I was thinking "LEAVE GROUP" at him while he just sits there screaming his head off. Honestly would've deserved the death, it's so funny to me how people die even after using Petri or having a Petri in their bags.
why do i see so many human mages die without mana and the OH from the lvl 10 mage quest isnt on their bars? it doesnt share a CD with pots and its a weapon so it can be equipped in combat....
I can understand some clicking of spells, but damn, he's clicking everything. I have smaller fingers, and still had plenty of macros/binds when I played. It's harder to watch than a back peddling melee player in PvP.
4:35 just another reason to not play hc
Or just don't use RestedXP and 5 trillion other add-ons. They cause weird dcs and shit like that.
@@andrewg3196any proof?
But then we wouldn't be laughing at these clips 😂
that griefing panther XD
there is nothing wrong for being a clicker
IF YOU PLAY CLASSIC
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6:47 THATS WHY YOU DONT SKIP
JESUS
Korean “C-bal” is like the “F” word in English 😂
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Huntards at it again in that last clip. Chained the pet to the melee
Two pets even!
clicking was not fine even in '05
F*ck that black panther. I got PTSD from that clip. Exactly how I died on my 43 warrior. Ran out of a tricky situation, sat down to eat and that mfer crits me out of stealth because I sat down. Pfffft.
The guy in SM had Parrot addon he deserved it.
That last clip... it's always the hunters man...
Nothing wrong with being a clicker it just means your gameplay is subpar and you are at a huge disadvantage.
It's jusat my theory... but i think that hunter in last video intentionally send pet to grief the raid
Lots of sweats mad about clickers still getting a better parse than them
Guzu man it's kind of annoying when you show clips and do not comment about what boss they're fighting or area they're in. Please provide some context so the rest of us can keep up.
Anybody know what UI addon that is at 4:00?
I did NOT think clickers still existed...im shocked.
Still too many players remain...
aspect of the runing slow on XD hahaha
lol people looking like they never did SM cath
Its weird that this can still happen. Atleast 1 person in the group should know that you nedd to clear everything.
5:00 its eu servers, these kind of laggs happen all the time, would be nice to have some attention from na streamers on that issue
I know not to do dungeons due to everyone being a fucking clicker.
Clicking spells is fine. Ya, fine if you want to be worse at the game, slower, less accurate. Yup. Its fine.
It's fine. WoW, especially vanilla, is a piss easy game anyways, no need to feel high and mighty here.
@@bobjones4469 dunno why to say. nobody considers binding high and mighty. its a basic thing. noobs will find anything to justify not bindin tho. always the boomers
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Guzu bro. Dont talk people into thinking its okay to click important abilities, especially in HC.
4:20 and he just dinged 22 to start aoe leveling hahahah
6:20 The war has the most AWFUL UI i have ever seen, nothing on the screen is understandable
Lol that asian clip, vanilla is brutal
clickers = noobs end of story
Clickers deserve to be told they're bad... because they suck and will ruin it for everyone else
hunter sent in pet and chained from boss and killed raid
3:13 Prime example for a group made of stupid. Group has 5 players, everybody could have called out the fact that this place needs to be cleared out first just in case someone doesnt know. They deserved that wipe and the hunter is rat, dont ever bring hunter or rogue into hardcore dungeons.
You can't really blame the hunter for FD in this situation, he wasn't the one that caused it and everyone was already dead when he used it. But yeah as a group someone should have known the sides will pull with the boss. A rat would have been running for the door the moment the boss was pulled without the sides cleared.
I rolled a rogue expecting to be grouped with players that will panic and cause a wipe. I wanted a guaranteed escape from dumbasses. I’m also not the type to just bail early, especially knowing I can at anytime. What’s so bad about a rogue like that
@@gregg9725 Because a lot of rogues vanish way before they have to and stop contributing to a wipe prevention. Hunters are worse though, because they cause more wipes with bad pet management + they get to survive. I personally wouldn't want to group with a rogue or hunter. The stakes are not the same for them at all, its like they get to play a lite version of HC. So they are playing a cheese version on top of the fact that cheese will cause them to abandon the group at the time you need everyone on deck. I've watched so many of these clips where the group wipe or a death could have been prevented simply if the hunter or rogue used one of their other abilities that didn't just eject them from the encounter.
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Why are people still tolerating clicking? It was bad almost 20 years ago when vanilla came out now, but nowadays most/almost all games have keyboard inputs as well. Unless they only play Minesweeper/Solitaire besides WoW, which just might be true...
They might have physical disabilities or something. I still click on less important abilities (like buffs, situational stuff ) and keybind rotation
might also be a challenge
@@alihorda guy with hand disabilities here, I find it way more comfortable and 'easier' to use shift/ctrl/alt modifiers and keybinds for everything than moving my mouse around to click. I never run out of keybinds since I use 1 to = with shift, ctrl, alt, as well as the letter keys surrounding WAD with modifiers.
sobal 😂😂😂😂😂
Hahaha i am korean . . R.i.p 60 lv
There absolutely is something wrong with being a clicker stop lying lmfao
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Nothing wrong with clikcers? Definition of wrong lmao.
Right I came here to comment this. Clicking is so inefficient. Please do your other players a favor and get an MMO multi button mouse…
Clicking is the worst way to play this game
Is there a clicking only hc challenge maybe?
@@Vioblight Clicking is not inefficient. Using your mouse is better than forcing everything on a convoluted keybind.
@@Drylands oh my…. Clearly you have never tried both. You must think your the best clicker in the world. Play how you want. But know those precious seconds while you move your eyes to find the button and you move your mouse to click. Players may die and your dps may suffer. That’s just my opinion and experience
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Stop overreacting
Welcome to classic.
As soon as I heard the mage was Russian at the start I lost all sympathy
Why
@@Ray-lw2rh do you really have to ask why Russians are detested now?
2:43 anyone knows the UI add-on name?
I'm not 100% sure but I believe it's Bartender
@@Hikari1193or Dominos