Thank you for your honesty! I was forced onto these drugs at 13 years old following trauma. I became disabled, severely depressed, sleeping 14+ hours daily, and chronically suicidal. I lost 11 years of my life. Thankfully, I got off the poison in my mid-twenties, but still have physical health issues and complex trauma from the experience. We need more truth-tellers in psychiatry like you
I'm on arapiprizol how to wean off this drug. I feel it killing me. Really slow. I'm diabetic. And have eight stent. When will I be dead I'm 50 years old
My doctor prescribed me very small dose of Olanzepine along with antidepressants,it did help with to calm my mind down, and my sweating had stopped in public places, my hypochondria disappeared. I developed all of this after I experienced an traumatic event while in the gym doing bench press of 120kg my last rep I held my breath pushing it hard and suddenly something burst in my right temple,I got up in enormous fear and shock and left. Was experiencing headaches, blurry vision and I begun sweating profusely every where I went including in winter with - 10 in Poland. I was 19 years old at that time played Basketball and attending college. I couldn't focus on anything, couldn't stop thinking about this incident,I was taking Driving licence, and failed,as I was not able to focus on anything. Within a year of all that I gave up on all my passions which was Basketball and was going to go to University studying Sports Science and Coaching,and wanted to become Basketball coach. I was paranoid that I have certain diseases etc, like Aids, schizophrenia, Depression, then my skin went really bad because of stress from all of that. Be humble and respect life and others you don't know what can happen. What do you make of this? Comments appreciated. Thanks Sebastian
Absolutely nailed it by the 0:12 mark man. That long list you run through of medication‘s sounds like the entire scroll of treatments that the doctors had prescribed me in the past. Thanks for putting up this video, I hope it reaches the masses and gets people to question what they are taking and read into it before they swallow a pill
I'm glad to see another person that can actually understand what's going on in the mental health industy. We need more people like you to help people understand how terrible these drugs are. I am one that has been coming off the these terrible drugs that i had been prescibed for over 20 years. I feel so much better off these and now my brain can heal.
I know what's going off not mental health industry but ne tal illness in general been there got teeshirt I've had mental health issues from being 14 years old been on neds for it most of my life had a breakdown aged 14 due yo my dad dieing suddenly whenni was 9 and it caught up with me at 14 . 2017 diagnosed eith bpd after a bad sucide attrempt and GAD my executive functioning area of brain is hopeless memory very bad there's not enough services for very sever mentally ill ,there's cutbacks in care, no long stay places ,very few homes specifically for mentally ill working age adults. My care teams fantastic but not everyone's so lucky mentally ill clog up A+E as where do they go sucide rates are high as people cant cope with no help
Don't forget quetiapine...it's the sneaky antipsychotic that doctors dish out like candy for insomnia/ anxiety/ depression and its every bit as bad for side-effects ( Don't even mention withdrawals- they are HELL!)
Horrible, got addicted, horrible side effect I can't sleep normally but they don't want to prescribe sleeping pills, they did not work for my anxiety made it worse
It is sneaky, but when it is urgent and Save person to kill them self, you take it! For ocd is the Best medicine, i am also against the pill, but to try everything, and be stable with this litlle pill, it is miracle, side affect are horible yes, i Have sign of narcolepsy, but they do their job
@@StarlitMossI stopped taking them cold turkey, not because I wanted to, but because my psychiatrist literally hasn’t given me another prescription, I’ve been dealing with memory loss, confusing, agitation, nausea, loss of appetite, emotional numbness, restlessness, insomnia, it’s fucking hell
I've asked Psychiatrists - "What are you effectively doing to people and their potential?" They would reply with some Freudian rationale - if that didn't work, they implore how they're 'helping people,' via blazing indignation!
I appreciate their work - but no more antipsychotics ....they don't know how to help me now after the treatment....? insomnia that can rebound mild psychosis.. he suggested zopiclone and 75 of seroquel which will knock me out for like 2 days... I had side effects - heart palpitations - from the first time I went to a psychiatrist asking for help about severe insomnia, he had given me zopiclone.
Gaslighting is a type of psychological manipulation where someone makes another person doubt their own reality, memory, or sanity. The person doing the gaslighting may lie, twist facts, or deny things they said or did, making the other person feel confused or unsure about what’s real. The goal is to gain control or power over the victim by making them question their own perceptions.
So good to hear that I'm not the only one that hates these meds your video helped me feel less alone and you hit the nail on the hammer everything you described is 100% true
I live in the uk and was diagnosed with psychosis about 4 years ago which was when i was sectioned after a mental breakdown whilst in extended police custody after a case of mistaken identity. I spent about 8 months in hospital where i was given medication such as a clopixol depot of 1000mg every 4 weeks as well as various benzos, zopiclone as well as sodium valporate throughout my stay. I was about 63kg at the time of my section and now its been about 18 months since being completely off any medication, but prior to weaning off and stopping, it left me at about 40kg heavier with a complete apathy to life, as well as diminished cognitive ability, and some parkinson adjacent side effects. I honestly dont know what to do and I feel betrayed as even when I raised these issues in the early stages, i was dismissed as being "paranoid". I just wish medication just was not the first port off call and advertised as a quick fix for these kind of issues.
Also, I'm really considering going back to school to become a psych nurse now. I'm almost 30 so going back to school seems a little crazy. But after living with someone with schizoaffective for 6 years, I think I would love to be there for people who need help the most. We need more compassionate empathetic people (like you!!) in the health care field.
@@ChloMikell oh gosh, I am sixty and thinking about going back to school. How old is too old? 30 is just a young PUP! It sounds like you would be of great service with the wisdom you have from age and experience and your innate compassion.
@@ChloMikell Health Care is curing infection, disease, broken bones, good nutrition + exercise. Mental Health is taking up a loving dedication and thus developing a cathexis. Thus, the 2 fields are quite separate!
Thank you for sharing this. The problem is that the vast majority of people seeking mental health care are trauma survivors. Most of those people are sexual trauma survivors, and much of the trauma began in their childhood. But "mental health care" staff more often than not, gas light trauma survivors and call the recounting of their abuse and assaults as "delusional". They then dope people who are already obviously vulnerable to predators and abusers, on these drugs. This makes them even more vulnerable when they cannot run, cannot defend themselves, cannot (and should not) drive a car, and cannot even recognize danger enough to run from it. No one drugs or locks the predators up in the hospital or discusses their "behavior". They just drug and lock up their victims, even subjecting them to human rights violations that a killer on death row would not be subjected to. Then if the survivor can work at a job at all, they are apathetic and extremely accident prone, and that does not make for a productive nor safe employee. But you surely can tolerate abuse on those drugs. Is that a good thing to make people more obedient to abusers? But in my case they nearly ended my life. They destroyed everything I ever got out of bed for or worked for. They destroyed my excellent physical health, my small business, my appearance, my trust in humanity (particularly the medical practitioners) and my standing in my community. I had to go on disability and that would not have happened if I had never been poisoned by the quacks. I worked for 45 years in a hi tech and dangerous union job to earn the money to have an operational small farm business in my retirement. Someone that skilled and productive does not need "antipsychotics for delusions". Statistics show that 20% of children are sexually assaulted by adulthood and beyond the inherent dangers of childhood, 20% of female college students are sexually assaulted before they graduate. The danger lasts from cradle to grave for women. It is an epidemic and should be treated with the urgency that we treated covid. The #metoo movement has proven how much sexual aggression and harassment is part of the American reality, and yet these privileged quacks are violating the human rights of trauma survivors, when recent estimates show that 80% of suicide attempts are by sexual assault survivors...who do not survive if they are successful. Then they are simply victims or both the sexual predators and often the "mental health care" abusers, as well. I recommend that people watch youtube therapists and find online support. Seeking "mental health care" will lead to further abuse, and possibly the destruction of all that you have struggled against all odds to build, and could possibly end your life. It nearly killed me and I am so lucky to be alive today. I would like to start a coalition of sexual assault survivors, male and female, who would like to make sure that psychiatric abuse and gas lighting sexual trauma survivors never happens to anyone else ever again. You can't take a drug to heal a broken spirit any more than you can take a drug to heal a broken bone. It all takes time, radically good nutrition, a healthy lifestyle, exercise, a supportive community, and LOVING good care. The withdrawals from the antidepressants, benzos, adhd drugs and other mind altering "meds" are exactly what are causing so many people to end up in the hospital when the withdrawal syndrome mimics mental illness symptoms that the person never had prior to being poisoned with mind altering drugs, all for the crime of being sexually assaulted or abused. That's when they bring in the antipsychotics to dope you into complete submission. These drugs are increasing mental illness in this country as can be readily seen with the stats of increasingly hospitalizations since the invention of these "miracle cures". Avoid the compensatory chemical changes in your beautiful brain by simply not taking any psyche meds at all ever...no antidepressants, no antianxiety benzos, no adhd drugs, no mood stabilizers and especially no antipsychotics. I wish I had never taken that first antidepressant. I wish I had never sought "mental health care" after being traumatized as a child. It was the biggest mistake of my life. You are just handing over the power, control, agency, happiness, creativity, compassion and joy in your life, to people who don't really care about you and are most probably idiots. Don't do it!
@@clare2439 I am in a very large support group of survivors of Catholic church and Boy Scouts abuse, and the consensus is that most people who have suffered an extreme level of trauma are not able to focus for long periods of studies particularly if threats of continued abuse are present...such as the 20% female rape statistic in college. So it is a very significant problem that people who work in mental health care with any authority, have lived a naive and privileged existence that prevents them from understanding that abuse not only happens, but that it can be diabolical, severe, and committed by the least likely appearing people with the best credentials. There is a dangerous cognitive dissonance in the entire field that is unlikely to change soon. There are also a significant amount of psychopaths and control freaks who enter the profession because they have an even more dangerous mental illness than any of their patients, and there are psychopaths who enter the profession for the unquestioned power that it gives them over vulnerable people. There is a tremendous amount of bigotry and misogyny, based on both ignborance and malice. I recommend that if you find a group of survivors on any platform online that you can...or in a group IRL setting. If you have psych meds that you would like to get out of your life, please be very careful about tapering slowly. There are many social media support groups for drugs classes as well as individual drugs. I wish you the best.
@@janetnash8588 thanks for sharing. I've found the same thing actually, that many psychiatrists and even therapists are malicious. They pretend to be good by "helping others". Its the dark side of the mental health industry.
Janet thanks again for the response. I made another video where I posted your first comment and summarized it for people. Should you want to see it, here's the vid link + time stamp. ruclips.net/video/Zy8yzJADKQY/видео.html. Time stamp = 22:35 Janet Nash The State of Mental Health THANK YOU FOR BEING SO STRONG!
Thank you. I am a social work student. I am older, and have seen how systems fail people. Keep putting the word out on Robert Whitaker. I also like Peter Breggin. The number of children being drugged is the next travesty.
I was placed on risperidone after having a Manic psychosis episode. I've been diagnosed with having an eating disorder in the past and the doctors knew that, as I was under weight...and yet, they still prescribed me risperidone in the hospital. I gained 50 pounds in 5 months. Long story short, I feel a while lot better and a whole lot worse cause three years later I'm 70 pounds heavier and don't have the psychiatrist to help me ween off of it. Thank you for sharing this information. I wish I had the wherewithall during my mental health episode years ago.
I'm grateful that I'm prescribed an antipsychotic that makes me eat a lot more and gain weight. I was anorexic and very underweight as well, but now my body feels so much more comfortable. It also has soothed my ED voice so much. I'm going to need to watch what I eat soon, as I've gained 30+ pounds this year already, but it's worth it for me
@@xxbeccabrutalityxx7873 very low energy the uncontrollable eye face muscle movement seizures extreme weigh gain in the area of the knees and stomach elevated stress levels child taken away stolen motherhood
@@xxbeccabrutalityxx7873 some people got rid of anorexia without pills although there is a discrimination against fat people not that all fat people are super nasty thin people are horrible too
Antipsychotics are not a long term solution. I dont think professionals understand this. Scary stuff. There needs to be better solutions for these mental disorders.
Therapy and lifestyle changes. If you find out the psychological causes of your psychosis/mania and solve them, you won't have anymore. Therapy is very helpful with this. Also, eat healthy, stay out of every drug (my psychosis was due to weed plus awful traumas and toxic environment). Escape as much as you can from the toxic environment and you are healed. Big Pharma does not like that because a healed patient is a lost customer
I can't speak for schizohrenics, or manic depressants, but my problem is more anxiety. I also had substance abuse issues. I stopped seeing a psycharist because I refused medication, and he refuced CBT, but I only have anxiety issues so I don't speak for everyone.
My son was forced onto clozapine the deterioration in his illness is horrific. but they insist he has been properly diagnosed and the medication is a theroputic dose of medication for his condition, everybody but the professionals can recognise the terrible change in his condition. The professionals are in total denial. Defending the medication is more important than the patients mental health. The attitudes within the system is shocking.
I've been on different types of antipsychotic med for over a year and I've noticed many different types of motor decline, cognitive ability is deeply flawed and the apathy is almost unbearable. I got my Dr to discontinue the invega sustenna injection but will still be taking Xyprexa daily along with Venlafaxine…. It may take a few months for the invega to clear out of my system but thankfully, I know I won't have to put that in my body again. Antipsychotics have deeply diminished my quality of life
Thank you. I value this video so much. It reaffirms what I know. Since, it reaffirms what I already know, it in turn, grants me the confidence, strength and the faith I need to make better decisions in my future. I have had such a hard day, and my anxiety is getting the better of me. Yet I have been sitting quietly, practicing mindfulness, and researching into the facts I need to hear from another, to help instill the bravery I deserve to reclaim my life. I'm sure the racing heart, will slow to a normal place, when I can find the serenity to forgive these corrupt companies that manufacture such trash to countless innocent people.
@@kathleengivant-taylor2277 My doctor prescribed 3mg of Risperidone for the mania phase, he asked me to take it at night, I took it yesterday, but I'm feeling very dizzy, empty head, sedation, stuffy nose, I can't even stand up straight, it was the worst medication I've ever used , antipsychotic is not enough for me, before using it I could have researched more and talked to him to start with a smaller dose or not use this one, he had said anything I could have warned him, I don't know why he told me He gave me this medication which is strong, if I had known I wouldn't have taken it and I would have told the doctor about it. I'm thinking he started on too high a dose, which is why I'm so bad with the side effects.
@@babynaysc wow ,those side effects don’t sound fun. I think I’d be wanting too talk to dr about the side effects and see about changing mds or some other type of therapy to help if possible.
THE PROVIDERS HAVE KNOWN ABOUT ALL OF THESE HORRORS FOR 65 YEARS.THEY ARE THE PARTIES ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR WELLBEING.THEY ALL KNOW. DON'T FALL FOR THE LINE THAT "THEY DIDN'T KNOW." THEY KNEW.
Same with antidepressants. Withdrawals from psych meds are a pure nightmare even if tappered down very slowly, I can't believe that doctors are still denying withdrawals and the severity of it. To all the psychiatrists I talked so far about it they just laughed it off, this problem does not exist for them which is just shocking to me.
Everything is relative. You should try self-medicating with strong opiates. Then quitting. THAT, is WITHDRAWAL. I have tried and for various reasons, quit taking almost all common antidepressants. They are nothing to quit. UNLESS...they REALLY HELP,! Then it isn't withdrawal that comes on from quitting them! It is the Hell of having the DEPRESSION COME BACK!
@@jeffjones3040I'm a recovering opiate addict and I'll tell you straight up antidepressant screwed me up worse they probably had me go to opiates to give myself that Rush of dopamine that I was lacking from being on antidepressants my whole life all different kinds and antipsychotics, it's just that the SSRI and antipsychotic after effects or withdrawal issues are not stated straight to our face from the prescribing psychiatrists, so you then think that it's just you, but when you really think about it your brain has changed you know you better than anybody else so
You know... There is such a thing as "Over Medicating". You are right. Antipsychotics are definitely overused. I think the same holds try for antidepressants and antianxiety drugs. ( I have first hand experience with all 3)
Same here with antipsychotics and benzos and when they left me feeling complete apathy they started prescribing me antidepressants to counter-blance the issues it created
I couldn't smell the champoo in my shower, feel the breeze in my face, feel the hair of my dog whenever I pet him, taste the food I was eating, or feel the movement of my limbs. My physical health, mind and life went from good to nightmerish and hellish.
Hello! Thank you for making this video. It has given me hope. My story began this year in March: I went into a temporary psychosis/mania from smoking weed. And was put into a mental health clinic where i was told i had bipolar. I was told i need medication and later injected with abilify and told i need to be on it for years. May, I noticed i no longer had feelings/emotions, and i knew something was wrong. June, i was told to take another shot and i decided to take the oral route instead. July, i did research and i decided on my own to get a new psychiatrist, told him my story and he allowed me to taper off the abilify. August, I've been a week and a half drug free. I am still concerned about my emotions/feelings/thinking. Do you have any advice on the healing journey? As of now i am eating healthy/exercising/vitamins. I'd love to hear from you! Thank you again for making all of your videos
Hi Jessie, my son had a very similar episode about a year ago. He started smoking weed and went into psychosis, then he was given antipsychotics, which helped him come back to reality but now, he's been taking medicine for a little under a year. Has your doctor advice you to taper off your medication? Our doctor told us that my son would be taking these medications indefinitelly. My son is tired of the medicine already and wants to stop taking them. I wish he can stop taking them but I am afraid of him going into another episode of psychosis.
@@CRVGinc I suggest you get another opinion. If this was his only episode of psychosis and it was induced by street drugs, he may not have another episode. Best wishes to you and your family.
thank you for such an informative and educated explanation, i always questioned the hidden long term effects of mental health meds, would love a video on SSRI’s too
One thing that psychiatrists do which frustrates me is that they do not want to prescribe benzodiazepines, which can relieve depression and anxiety and gave very few bad side effects. Instead they like to give you too large doses of antipsychotics with a heck of a lot of bad side effects.
I suggest researching more into benzodiazepines. This class of medication can be harmful if taken long-term. It's a great medication to stabilize someone's anxiety over the short-term, but it almost always needs to be withdrawn once the person has developed other coping mechanisms. Long-term benzodiazepine use can cause addiction where the body and brain gets physically dependent on it and more dosage is needed to achieve the same result. Withdrawal from long-term use can be deadly. I no longer mess with them.
I second this. My understanding is that w/ benzos you "could" use them for psychosis (which they are sometimes, and indicated in catatonia), but that they don't often use them not so much b/c of the side effects--surely they don't have worse side effects than antipsychotics (AP)--but b/c of the tolerance issue. It sounds like you have to eventually keep upping the dose, and then one day, no matter how much you up the dose, it doesn't help, then you want off of them and sometimes the withdrawal can be a living hell, and tapering can be very difficult. then again, i wonder about APs too as it seems like the above would apply to them as well . .I would imagine the neurotransmitter receptors die off/atrophy and something similar occurs, and they can have withdrawal issues too. would be curious what the research has to say on this. I'll ask the prescriber I work with about this. I think there's more prescribing stigma around benzos and i think there's prescribers who don't want to draw unnecessary attention from the DEA since it's a scheduled substance as well.
Move to Vermont where they are so in the back pocket of big pharma that they pass out any psyche meds like Halloween candy. I don't even really have any anxiety that was not based on real life stressors. I have depression and PTSD for 4 decades after childhood sexual assault. In other states doctors told me NOT to take any psyche drugs because I don't need them and they mess with your brain chemistry. In Vermont they gas lit my sexual violence and harassment history, and forced me onto benzos, APs, ADs, mood stabilizers and more. But the benzos for me were as bad as the AP's in a different way. The benzos made me more anxious when I wasn't high on them, than I ever was in my life....terrified in fact....and they gave me severe akethesia, and caused me to have suic1dal thoughts. They also caused "benzo rage", although some APs like risperidone also caused rage. But what is odd is that I am by nature a very peaceful person, so how they thinks that these drugs given out with zero conclusive diagnostic testing and based on a "doctor's" hunch, is "health care" or even care at all. It is pure insanity and proves to me just how closely related to chimps we humans are.
it sucks. I have nowhere to turn. This explains my experience entirely, but i am so numb all I can do is wait. I have job training coming up im waiting for so i can afford to move without being homeless, all while being coerced through court-ordered medication. I'm looking into moving somewhere far away from hospitals and institutions, without living in a tent, but I'm afraid with the drowsiness I wont do well in a lot of high-demand jobs that demand some form of mental rigor. When I'm off the drugs though, I was off them for 9 months, I was supremely paranoid, which could be the side effects from insomnia/symmptoms of coming off cold-turkey of the meds. It's literally tiring to be alive, at this point.
I wish we can someone like you in NZ, to talk to the local pharmacies and health professionals to talk about more awareness of the medications. I am also coming forward to talk about Mental Health, and the silent stigmatisation of Mental Health in our country. The silent stigmas of Mental Health has to stop. No body should have to suffer issues alone in this life. We all need to give an account about what changes need to be made and what works or what doe not work for people in the community, and I believe Mental Health, the silent stigma has to stop. Matt
Thanks for this info!! I was on Latuda for 2 years, I gained around 50 pounds. I stopped taking it last year (2023) around Thanksgiving. I was tired of having to eat 350 calories just to take the med and would fall asleep about an hour later whether I wanted to or not. I was feeling so down because I felt like my personality just wasn't there anymore. I've lost 30 pounds since being off and so happy! My brain isn't completely back to normal, but I'm so happy to be off Latuda and will never go back unless I absolutely have to.
This may also prove helpful to the innocent victims of dark psychology practitioners: 'Reactive abuse' occurs when someone who has been enduring ongoing abuse or provocation finally reacts emotionally, often with anger or defensiveness. The abuser then uses this reaction to label the victim as 'aggressive' or 'unstable,' gaslighting or manipulating the situation to appear as though they are the victim. This tactic can make the true victim feel guilty and question their own behavior, while allowing the abuser to justify their actions and maintain control. Recognizing 'reactive abuse' and dark psychology is crucial for victims to understand that their reaction is a response to continuous harm, not a sign of personal instability or mental illness. Do not be fooled by an overly clever web of liars. Stay safe from mental traps.
My weight gain from quetiapine and other antipsychotics was so fast that I thought some of my clothes had shrunk in the wash. I now have hypothyroidism and high cholesterol. I went from normal weight to having my mom making me some clothes because I can’t find clothes in the store that fit me very easily. I’m scared.
@@A_Psych_Nurse not much at all. Some house work. But that’s all. I get out of breath very quickly. I now have a space cleared out where I can start doing some basic exercise. Thinking of asking for metformin as well.
I got put on quetiapine years ago and I too have developed under active thyroid, went from a size 8 to a 22. Not a happy bunny, now told my shrink I refuse to take it any longer
I am so so scared that I am damaged for life due to antipsychotics. I have been prescribed different types of antipsychotics on and off for serveral years and also given injections with zyprexa at times. I feel every bit of these horrible side effects and that is also why I always seem to stop taking them. It scares me and I dont feel like it is accurately prescribed to someone like me, just like youre talking about. Is it possible for the brain to recover completely from these types if lobotomy-like effects once you stop taking them or ammI damaged for life?…
I was on Quetiapine or as it's known Seroquel along with Lorazepam which I still believe Benzodiazepines are the most dangerous of any drug. Now I don't know which one did it, but when I was coming off the Seroquel I developed more visual and perceptions issues that I didn't know was possible. From seeing visual snow, aggressive after images, seeing flashing aggressive patterns when my eyes are closed, nightmares, hair loss, sensitive eyes to everything, light sensitivity, seeing yellow and blue spots in my vision, this over whelming restlessness sensation through my body almost like Akathisia, inability to gain an erections, I'm just now starting to feel my left arm again... And I keep having these brain sensations I could explain if I tried. It's like my brain is splitting from reality it's the scariest thing I've gone through to date well that and my vision issues
Scary! thanks for sharing snake. I've heard the benzos are VERY difficult to come off of, esp. once you've reached a point where you don't feel like they are helping much and are on a very high dose. Supposedly titrating from say 10mg of Lorazepam a day to 5mg a day (over months and months of time of course) is easier than once you make it down to 2mg/day and trying to titrate to 1mg/day. wishing you the best of luck and i firmly the believe the body and brain have an immense capability to heal and recover!
@@A_Psych_Nurse Being on 30+ different psych meds ovr a 40+ yr period (starting w/Ritalin @ age 4 in 1971; I'm 55 now), I can attest 2 the damage caused by psych meds (became psych med-free on 1/1/2017 after witnessing a 4mer neighbor/friend being addicted 2 Ativan; I've been since psych med-free since then). All psych meds r "chemical pacifiers" (designed 2 silence u when standing up 2 & defending myself against abusers, antagonists, bullies, harassers, instig8rs, & perpetr8rs). Sorry but psych meds (especially ANTIPSYCHOTICS) r very unnecessary.
i was od'd with zyprexa aka olanzapine which is a thienobenzodiazapine they injected my front hips with 30mg and other drugs as well. i have serious damage tremors seizure etc and if i dont get the proper dosage of cbd now along with proper diet and thc it feels like i begin dying. horrible feeling. cant wait to go to heaven.
@@JCRastafari Actually; Zyprexa/Olanzapine r neuroleptics but bc Olanzapine ends in "zapine", I completely agree w/u RE: the term "thienobenzodiazapine". That's bc neuroleptics function in a similar manner 2 benzos. There4; I thank u 4 that "new" term.
I've been on rispolux for almost a fake diagnosis of schizophrenia. My decision making, conversation skills, planning, problems in memory, loss of pleasure, weight gain drastically happened. My problems are completely rejected by my psychiatrist (Azizul Islam in Dhaka, Bangladesh) and my parents are manipulated by them and I'm bound to carry on this sufferings 😭
Take agency and take back control of your life. I’m the same I’ve been extremely passive but if you don’t take responsibility for your life you will have no life! I should know I’ve lost so many relationships because of this drug
Medicating children is basically punishing them for the deficits in their family, and not being born with instincts the way animals are and having to be nurtured and taught properly. That’s not even human. Medicating a child is a sorry excuse for love and proper Medical care in some cases, such as pandas -or physical deformities that affect blood flow to the brain. Or allergies..
Famous folk singer Woody Guthrie had a genetic disorder that caused mental imbalance. A doctor told his wife over the phone that her husband had delusions of grandeur he thinks he is a famous singer and author. His wife rushed to make the two hour drive to show the doctor Woody's records and published books.
I hope you or someone on here can help me! Cut the long story short I was sectioned last year after being medication free for 3 months. I was living a really healthy meaningful life for those 3 months. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder about 11 years ago and in that time I’ve been on and off antipsychotics. When my mental health team found out I stopped taking medication and my family reported that I was “becoming more spiritual” due to me completing a Reiki Master course, they came out to my house and deemed me to be manic and psychotic. On admission to the hospital I was seen by a consultant and they said I fit the criteria for manic because I was irritable (well hey you just locked me up for no reason!) and had grandiose beliefs because I thought I could heal people through Reiki (they said they didn’t believe in Reiki). After 3 weeks of me refusing medication because I was totally normal ( I have proof of this because I kept a vlog on Facebook of my time in there), they restrained me and injected me with a first generation antipsychotic called Depixol (also breaking 2 of my ribs in the process!). They put me on 2 weekly depot injections and I quickly declined into a depressive state. I went from being social with other inpatients to a total recluse on the ward just wanting to sleep all the time and cut myself off from the world. They released me on a community treatment order (UK) meaning I am forced to have my depot injections of the antipsychotic in the community and if I don’t they will forcefully return me to hospital and administer it there. I wake up most days feeling suicidally depressed just wanting to curl up and die but feeling restless at the same time. I also suffer from TD side effects but I’m just told to take procyladine (anticholagenic) as and when I experience any attacks. My consultant and mental health team refuse to accept it’s the antipsychotic causing the depression when I know 100% it is as I’ve experienced the same before when on the Abilify depot (as soon as I came off it within 2 months all suicidal thoughts stopped). They won’t change my meds and have just renewed my CTO for another year. I have low dopamine anyway due to me having severe ADHD too so the further reduction in it is causing chaos in my brain. I really can’t see a light at the end of the tunnel and battle with these horrible thoughts every hour of every day. I’ve had enough I really have so this is my last resort reaching out on here….if anyone can help me I would really appreciate it from the bottom of my heart. In my experience antipsychotics are killing me 😢
See if you can get on quietipine if uou meet them half wsy it's best then if you take uour meds you will be taken off a community section bearing in mindxwhile your on thst police can come to your home any time they like, and take you back into hospital same in public you wouldn't be covered by insurance to fly anywhere on uour own an airline can turn you away even at gate your gps will jump on any rudeness at doctors go get you back in hospital and you need your gps, friends, care team
One time at the group home that I used to live in, they decided that I was irritable because I didn't feel like eating dinner and going to my room. And the answer to that was anti-psychotics lol. Just to be clear, they offered an adult with no mental illnesses or personality disorders anti-psychotics just simply because they weren't hungry or sleepy. Wild.
Off-label promotion refers to the sale of medications for uses outside of the approved indication. In these cases, medications are prescribed for a variety of symptoms that are not directly related to the purpose for which they were originally developed. This expands the use of the drug, resulting in increased sales. A notable example is Johnson & Johnson, which was forced to pay a legal settlement of 2.2 billion dollars for promoting Risperdal and Invega for unapproved uses, that is, off-label. Off-label increases largely sales, and thats why so many mental illnesses are diagnosed.
I've been on zyprexa for 2 months and I quit cold turkey. I know this is wrong but the anxiety I was getting when trying to taper off from the fact I was still taking this poison was driving me insane. Now I just don't feel normal...I don't have physical withdrawals but I just feel incredibly off as if I'm inprisoned in my own mind. Does this thing ever go away?
yeah i think you should recover b/c 2 months ain't that long--fortunately! i'd say make sure you're doing the right stuff right--drinking water, getting moderate exercise, prioritizing sleep/sleep schedule, healthy relationships & diet, etc :). Your brain/neurotransmitters/receptors just need some time to heal most likely.
My experience: I was forcefully fed with anti-psychotics by Indian daacatars without any diagnosis or tests and them vaguely claiming it to be delusions and paranoia. I had C-PTSD caused by bullying, abuse and sexually harassment by Indian schoolmates and ex Indian friends cuz insecure and envious and my narc. Indian parents along with them spreading rumors, sexual innuendoes and so on. I went through these bitter experiences for five years, it was long term, and it actually never stopped even till today. They used coercion tactics to feed me with high doses of antipsychotics prescribed by low-skilled Indian daacatars, cuz I confronted them (my parents) about the abuse which inturn had adverse effects on my self esteem, and later was gaslighted by the abusers (that includes my family), to make me seem like delusional or crazy. I was always sedated while going to college, barely was aware of my surroundings, having allergies, jaw twitching frequently. Even tho nothing changed I learnt to cope the abusers, tried to act like I never noticed their abuse for a year, using gray rock method, reverse gaslighting strategies to cope with their harassment and ultimately the medications were stopped by them.
I think something that's often overlooked is how the medication interacts with others, like SSRIs. I'm on quetiapine and wasn't experiencing anything major that I didn't think I couldn't power through. Was put on an SSRI later on and my body immediatly hated it, and started getting the bad symptoms from the quetiapine even aftet stopping the SSRI. I'm fully on board going off of it but because of my constant hessitation with medication my dosage method was changed so I couldn't taper off (instead of two 25mg pills I was changed to one 50mg pill. This meant I couldn't cut my dosage in half for a little bit).
I have a granddaughter that was suffering with depression and anxiety. The psychiatrist gave her one after another antidepressants which did not help much. Then she moved onto antipsychotic medication olanzapine changing her previous diagnosis to bipolar. I’ve seen the difference in my granddaughter as of the last six months. She has gained weight, she lacks emotion or interest in most things. I can’t imagine what it’s doing to her on the inside. Having seen your video I can understand what’s happening to her. I want her off these toxic drugs How do I approach her parents about this since she lives with them although she’s not a minor? She’s convinced she needs these drugs. What are the alternatives?
Get her to a Chinese acupuncture doctor + with herbs. He has to prescribe herbs. And go to a homeopath. Your daughter will be completely free you will see a new girl. Look up how many people got off their medication with acupuncture. Its unreal. Go for it. I promise you will not be disappointed. I promise you ❤️
@@RelentlessTriumph My granddaughter is easing into a keto diet and uses the keto gummies to help her along. She is starting to lose weight but these medications have really messed with her metabolism. It will be an uphill battle for her in the coming months but her mood has improved and she has her grandparents support which has helped.
I was given quetiapine for anxiety and insomnia I gained a kilo in a month and my cholesterol shot up to 7. That's only some of the horrible side-effects I got. I was told to eat less ( try that when you're in a zombie state and you're eating everything in sight in the middle of the night) the carb craving is insane, its just uncontrolable. I'm tapering off them and getting withdrawals such as increased anxiety and insomnia, constant overheating and sweats, formication and crazy moodswings.. I told my psychiatrist of this and she denied that withdrawals happen, basically telling me its all in my head.
Yikes! I'll be doing a video covering metabolic stuff here in a while--but yeah the antipsychotics mess w/ all of that stuff--including hormones regulating appetite, and then it's a vicious cycle (just gets worse and worse).
@@A_Psych_Nurse I look forward to that video. There's so little new/recent videos on mental health and medication difficulties.. I think people suffering really need to talk to eachother and compare notes.. I find I just can't get any honest information from any psychiatrists I deal with. I used to not understand what gaslighting meant but now I have firsthand experience of it from my psychiatrist!
@@A_Psych_Nurse i am so glad to have found your channel since it is very hard for me to find info relating to my circumstance .. would you mind also if you come across anything related to big time type damages that remains post discontinuation of zyprexa? everything i can find talks about peoples bodies regaining normalcy after discontinuing the pharma... 😥 maybe brains and hearts just dont heal up if damaged to a certain degree. just sitting here feeling like death again today. oh well.
I was also given quetiapine for my anxiety after I was in hospital for a couple of months. It actually made me feel better while I was on it but I'm really happy I stopped taking them .
I respect your opinion and mostly agree. However, I take Invega sustenna injections for schizoaffective disorder bi-polar type. Without it, I couldn’t speak coherently (much like he described in the video), I didn’t know what was going on around me, I’d be awake for a week at a time, wasn’t eating, and would spend all day taking to the voices in my head. I couldn’t even remember how old my daughter was. This DX came out of nowhere, I am 36 years old. Thank you for speaking out I do appreciate others knowing what those with mental health conditions have to deal with. I HAVE to take this medication and I HAVE to live with the side effects. I’ve gained 100lbs in a year, I no longer get my period, I have been lactating for almost 3 years now cz of it, and I have severe muscle cramps around the week of the month that I get my shot. It all becomes worth it though because I am able to be a mother to my daughter again, able to go back to work and school. Antipsychotics are definitely a double edged sword!
thanks for this perspective :). I'm GLAD that Invega is working for you despite you experiencing some of the side effects--and yes, if Invega is giving you your life back, then more power to you!
You don’t have to live with this. Look into ketogenic diet. It’s not pseudoscience-there’s plenty of scientific research readily available online to prove it’s an effective treatment for severe mental illness. It has worked for me. Please just look into it. You don’t have to live like this.
Thank you for your perspective. I was reading the comments and feelling guilty for takeing the meds I take. I’m also a mother of 3 kids, so I have to function properly not a good time tom make experience a on taking off some meds…
I have been prescribed Seroquel 300mg for insomnia. I hate it because it is making me diabetic. I have weaned off of it down to 100mg. It's been rough trying to sleep. Really rough. I want off Seroquel altogether. It's horrible.
The thing is we still do not know the fine details of how the brain works and what exactly causes psychosis or what we collectively call psychosis even is. We have some very plausible ideas but the brain is so complex with things compounding off each other that when we try to address these issues something else breaks quite often. Its VERY IMPORTANT that your psychiatrist is a great one since poor choice of drug influencing the brain can destroy a life extremely quick. Might not kill the patient but can make their life not worth living.
I believe I am suffering from ptsd from an incident where a neghbour of mine was going nuts. When I was in the hospital for a week on no anti psychotics 3 months ago, I felt way better than I have since
Thanks for this video! It feels really nice to hear you describe so many things that happen to me and I had to go through especially during involuntary medication
when my wife was suffering from a TBI and i could no longer take care of her alone i took her to the ER to get help with her gaining weight because she wouldn't eat enough and was too thin. even though i stayed there in the ER every day with her she would always start yelling for me whenever i left the room. she did the same at home. whenever she would be loud they would give her antipsychotics to knock her out. i had to constantly supervise to try to prevent that from happening. i fed her every meal while she was in the ER for over a week like i did at home. half the time she couldn't eat because they would keep her knocked out with the antipsychotics. then they transferred her to the nursing home and i was there feeding her every day again and making sure she was comfortable but they would knock her out with the antipsychotics every day and half the time she could only eat one meal a day because she was unconscious. i spoke to all of the staff every day nearly to make sure they knew i was going to feed her dinner and that i expected her to not be knocked out so she could eat. that was the situation for i think a couple months. i was there every day and it was always the same and then they called hospice in and she passed away. i disagree completely with the use of antipsychotic use for anyone. i think it should be criminal to drug people like that in ERs or nursing homes. someone who works in your profession has the credentials to contact government officials and ask for changes to the laws. thanks for being active on this issue with your youtube channel.
Sad thing is most their victims are ppl under 18 with no rights. In the U.S the mental health system is the #1 branch of the cash for kids system and it's tied to all the branches.
That is the difficulty. You have on the one hand patients who must be treated because otherwise it will result in psychotic episodes, and they can cause the deaths of patients and also other people. On the other hand these drugs do not have good adverse effect profiles, especially at high doses. If someone has bipolar disorder then for mania there is often a better option and that is the anticonvulsants, epileptic medications. Much better side effect profiles and they often work well, and if needed they can probably be combined with a low dose antipsychotic. One of the big problems is that many patients are treated in the public system and the doctors often don’t have the time to work on dosing levels.
What about taking abilify for tics and intrusive thoughts? A doctor prescribed me aripiprzole or abilify 5 mg. I been taking half of a pill at night . Im on my third day and already had side effects hands shaking neck twitching lightly , I feel sleepy and I feel a pressure on my chest when I'm breathing. This medication helped me with my intrusive thoughts, I have less now but I'm afraid If something bad happens. They don't know for sure if I have OCD .
There's a number of studies that come up if you google Abilify and tics, and it looks like it's been studied to decrease symptoms of Tourette's. At the same time, we know Abilify can cause involuntary movements with long-term use, so I'd be curious what your prescriber would say about that. And yes, Abilify is commonly prescribed for intrusive thoughts. Also curious what a neurologist would advise. Do you see a neurologist?
Some countries rely less heavily on antipsychotics than the US does and supposedly have better outcomes. I think there may be some people who need to take them long-term; then again, if it were me who was diagnosed w/ schizophrenia and I had the wherewithal/insight to slowly taper off my medications, I would try to periodically do so, ensuring that either I wouldn't need them at all, or that I was on the lowest and effective dose possible (this isn't possible for all diagnosis w/ schizophrenia and it really depends on severity of the disease). It seems there are some who need them on a short-term basis, and there are others who do okay taking them on a long-term basis, and may even need them long-term. The best alternative may be nothing. It's a VERY complex situation. (For some people, given their circumstance, drug use, lack of resources, etc., antipsychotics seem to have a place in their life). I think healthy overall life (diet, exercise, social life, abstaining from environmental and drug-induced triggers, etc.) + some sort of productive activity is best. This is sometimes a pie-in-the-sky idea though. Hopefully I answered your question.
@@A_Psych_Nurse thanks so much for your reply! I lead a productive life but my episodic illness has meant I always end up relapsing and back on long term antipsychotics. I'm starting more exercise and will look at diet
@@libotoole8489 you may want to look into Kelly Brogan, Libby. I've listened to her on a Joe Rogan podcast and she has some interesting ideas on diet (haven't researched them myself yet, so cannot confirm, but may be worth the review). thanks Libby :)
@@A_Psych_Nurse you can sign up for her email list too. Gut health is extremely important, I have found and studies have also shown. Glyphosates in commercial consumer foods are killing the shikimate pathways in our gut microbiome. That is why I eat 100% organic foods much of which I grow myself. Exercise in nature is so good for mental health too. And gardening is a good starting place to getting exercise, nature, fresh organic foods, and lovely flowers too. As well, joining gardening and food foraging groups that take walks in the forest looking for wild foods, is great for mental health. You can find these groups if you search facebook, and also those "meetup" groups. I personally think that gardening and radically healthy foods saved my life. I have been drug free for 2 years now after being drugged extensively and for a long period. Nothing is better than being drug free for me.
Hello, Doctor diagnosed my father with dementia and prescribed medication including antipsychotic. The medication caused severe adverse effects and washed the memory in 7 days. My father has forgot ways, even the home address. His memory has washed away. He even doesn't know his family members names now. He starts screaming odd things if we take him somewhere outside of the house. This is really very frustrating. Please, is there anyway to reverse the adverse effects. I want my father in the previous position.
Thank you so much for this information. My son is taking antipsychotic medication and he doesn't want to take it anymore, but what is the alternative. We are told he can't stop it right away and if we take it out slowly, will that not put him in psychosis again? Is there a more natural way to heal? My son is 16 and is dianozed with schizophrenia less than a year ago and is taking 2 medications. Haloperidol 5mg and Valproate semisodium 500mg. What better options are there?
While on these dopamine BLOCKING drug's, preventing the brain's regulation of this dopamine to go where it wants &needs to go, your brain, now signaling no dopamine getting where it expects it to be, starts producing MASSIVE amounts of dopamine in effort to compensate. So, when coming off of these drug's your brain is NOW with this over Abundance of dopamine that, prior to taking these drug's, was already thought responsible for symptoms being experienced, the massive excess of dopamine your brain produced in damage control mode- is WHY drugged patient's on these meds will then experience more extreme & even worse episode of psychosis. Results following might be hospitalization, increasing dosages or adding new drug's ontop of existing. THIS is what happens and THIS is why or How they make arguments for WHY one needs to remain w drug's as (bullshit) proof that they were working. ALTERNATIVE'S: Get Help dealing w the trauma's unresolved that are likely causing your child's mental health issue's. Brain injuries can also do this. But drugging your child's still developing brain w these Black Boxed warning drug's( I'll bet your doctor never even warned or informed) is impho, extremely problematic. CONNECT w National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI). This is an excellent resource to help get you connected with the right ppl to support you with what your struggling.
How was he diagnosed with schizophrenia at sixteen? I’d be very surprised if he has it even to begin with. I would recommend to do some research as vitamins can help whilst coming off but I’d imagine long term he needs to heal from his traumas. Exercise, good food and good people. That’s it no life-altering drugs! Good luck
The akathesia from risperidone and amisulpride was unbearable. Once I stopped it went away, now I lay in bed feeling so much joy that I don't have the urge to constantly have to walk around.
@@A_Psych_Nursebut if you also think about it there are microbiological changes that can happen from things we still don't even know about to this day that could attribute to a lot of the reasonings for psychosis, and those are things that have yet to be discovered and may never be discovered so that's why I look at things from a third person's perspective❤
I have the same doubts… but since Im a mother of 3, I cannot “pay to see “ what would it be without medications… I have severe adhd and autism level 1 of suport… It scares me that I take two antipsychotics before sleeping… take off those two it’s also dangerous and very unpleasant… One got me very depressed and suicidal when I tried to quit… the other gave me lots of nausea and dizzyness really hard to bare… but at least I got to reduce both to really short doses❤ But watching videos like this makes me feel bad for needing them… As I said… with 3 kids I cannot risk not being functional or going through the withdrawals and not being able to deal with all my mom and life dutties… they need me… I also have sensorial disorders and anxiety…😢
my psychiatrist, knowing i’m epileptic, had me on quetiapine followed by abilify. i had seizures nearly daily and often multiple times a day. i gained about 10-15 lbs and haven’t stopped experiencing some of the side effects even after a few months off of them. worst time ever, i’ll never recommend anti psychs.
Where do I find records on successful litigation against any maker of an anti-psychotropic medication in criminal court? These would be a great find for my current research interests. Looking up the companies and then looking up the cases individually would be quite a task that one reference to this source could eliminate. Thanks for the video. This was a good one. ✌️❤️🖖
I have been on antipsychotics since my first hospitalization for anorexia nervosa when I was 13, I am 19 now, and still on antipsychotics. I was told I would not be discharged unless I began medications. I was coerced into taking them against my own will. I was started on risperidone , my period stopped for about two years and my body stopped producing estrogen, but that also had to do with being severely underweight, but then there was the lactation. I was switched to olanzapine on my 5th hospital admission , terrified of the weight gain, but thankfully I did not experience that side effect, and it was still a struggle to get me to a healthy weight. Though It zombified me making me so exhausted and lethargic, I would fall asleep on the school bus and in class and my teachers were really concerned. But then the dose was increased when I was around 16-17 and it caused fluid retention especially in my face and I looked so bloated, it was awful. With the dose lowered to 5 mg which I’m currently on the swelling no longer happens but I have been having troubles with movement, I already have movement problems because of my FND but gradually I have been getting new involuntary movements such as grimacing and chewing movements and my fingers moving like I’m playing piano and toes curling in and out, and waving my arms without meaning to and even neck twisting and head nodding. I’m always restless and can rarely sit still. I want to tell my doctor but I’m afraid she’ll say it’s just my FND and keep me on these meds. I want to get off, for years I begged my psychiatrist to take me off these meds telling him that I feel like something is off and they’re not helping and never have. these medications were supposed to help my thoughts be less ridged , that never happened, it only made me lethargic and easy to control. My psychiatrist never took me off these meds. I have also been on antidepressants since 2020 and those probably are affecting me negatively too.
Why are you on the drugs tho at such a young age? Childhood trauma? Abuse? I was on anti psychotics for about 1 week before i realised i gotta start healing myself. 1 year in and im better.
I have another video covering this but sometimes you can do nothing and let the condition run its course other times you can try an antipsychotic with the hopes of tapering down eventually. :) Other times I don't think it really needs treatment just a supportive environment.
At one of my lowest points, I tried several "downer"s. It was horrible. Did nothing to make annoyance easier to stand and could not wake up in morning. That was Seroquel. Somebody mentioned some call it jail house heroin. Tapered off and done with all of them. I went back to taking cat naps. I am retired now, wth do I care? Flat mood. Yuck. I'll never forget Richard Gere's line in Mr. Jones: Walking on the peaked roof he said. "The highs are the only thing that gets me thru the lows". So true. Tee in N.M.
My son doesn't have constipation he has diarhea...he doesn't mind the blood work (clozepine) sons weight has remained very stable on clozepine (he did gain some weight on zyprexa) on no meds son also quit eating..was down to 70something lbs. Antipsychotics and antidepressants have saved my son. Now I also work in a psych unit.
Does therapy even work to treat schizophrenia? I don't see that there are many other options other than antipsychotics. Are you sure that the antipsychotic cause frontal lobe damage? I thought it was the schizophrenia itself. Clozapine might have a lot of terrible side effects, but without it, someone close to me would either be dead or in a mental hospital. Zyprexa made me fat, but it also kept me relatively sane. I just don't see what our options are.
Lots of hardwork, a part time job, college or some form of education if not in a part time job, sometimes you e en just get use to the hallucinations because the body adapts and it becomes normal instead I'd what the voices are saying try ans see a different perspective of it rather than a negative if they say something like kill yourself just think this will pass its just an intrusive thought, try searching will hall, Eleanor longden, the medication are good for short term and even little doses but my doctors told me it's everything that helps people to recover like having hobbies, having friends. It's hard I'm still in the process of recovery but I know I will get better because I believe in myself. I'm only on anti depressants at the moment, run everyday, talk to people, been having a lot of quiet moments it's a start.
I had psychotic depression from bipolar disorder and it did help me to go on and antipsychotic caplyta to help pull me out of that depression but I do try to use natural vitamins and diet and exercise to treat the bipolar disorder I've had eight years inb between major psychotic episodes.
Excellent video, they are very dangerous. I'm glad you have the courage to speak out and tell the blunt truth. Peter's book is excellent, I showed it to my psychaitrist when I got detained, needless to say he avoided me lol. These products have no place in healthcare, the benefits can never outweigh the risks. Invega has me in a prolonged chemical straight jacket. They tested invega on rats and they all died from cancerous tumours. Awful stuff.
Hello, how long were you on invega? If you are off it, how long have you been off it? Are you improving? Any withdrawals? I was on it for just under four months and been off for a month and my life is a living nightmare
Antipsychotics aren't "sedation" they are elimination, an elimination of abilities related to the frontal lobe. They are an assault on the patient, a violent battery permanently damaging the brain and having the consequence/treatment and desired effects of limiting the patient's Mental and physical abilities which makes the patient easier to maintain/contain or control. This is a practice dating all the way back to Bethlehem/bedlam with lobotomy destroying the same parts of the frontal lobe that today's anti-psychotropics do. They are just the latest version of this technique that was recently primarily done through electrocution in what they would call "electroshock therapy". Where electroshock would would use electricity to burn up the fibers connecting neural pathways, psychotropics burn them up chemically and lobotomy would straight up remove them physically/surgically. This practice should be considered a litmus test for a society's decay. If you allow them to treat your poor like this then they will eventually treat you and yours the same. ✌️❤️🖖
It’s disgusting. I can’t get into my story right now but please don’t forget about neuroplasticity. I’m withdrawing from a few drugs right now and have been doing a lot of research the last few months. I have hope after being polydrugged for so long, and at crazy high doses for my diagnosis. I’m down to 6mg Abilify from 20. And down to 200mg Effexor XR give or take from 300.
What he doesn’t mention is that some antipsychotics (eg clozapine) can cause psychosis in someone who has never previously been psychotic. Trust me I know first hand. I also seem to have permanent physical side effects from one of the antipsychotics I was forced to take.
Is 5 years considered long terms use that could cause effects similar to a lobotomy as you explained? I have been taking zyprexa a little over 5 years now and just came to realize the dangers recently and began tapering off around 6 months ago. I'm trying to research to find out what damage has really or could be done in 5 years.
I can't say specifically a time frame for the lobotomizing effects, but I would say 3+ years of consistently taking a high dose might be a good guestimate (we'd have to look at the research to be surer). I also think there's a profound ability for the body/neurons to heal.
you can actually have noticeable permanent brain anatomy and or functional changes occur after one single neuroleptic dose. i am also living proof but many pub med papers investigate these facts.
@@JCRastafari yes I came across a paper (can't find it anymore) where healthy subjects took 1 dose of 5mg zyprexa and their blood work was thrown all out of wack (increase lipids/triglicyerides and other stuff i'm forgetting).
@@A_Psych_Nurse wonder which specific systems get damaged (methylation is something i would like to understand more in how it affects daily life) and the degrees at which repair and healing are not as possible... 🤔
I gained on average 90 lbs. I've lost 75 + lbs. 8 times and once 100 lbs. in my life. I've done this 3 times in the past 10 years alone. I'm currently 90 lbs. over weight again. I really don't care to live. It's take the meds or be completely insane. I've been on clozaril with a ton of complications. I'm currently on zyprexa and I hate it. Mornings are very tough.
I know that others on here see antipsychotics as being very bad. I see their point. I have been on an antipsychotic consistently for 10 years. I noticed when I first started taking it that it was like all the wild emotions I experienced were dampened. However, I'm more concerned that the voices people hear that have Schizophrenia are somehow people watching us and then punishing us for our behavior. Because the United States is not supposed to be a police state and people are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. If there is an intervention where someone's behavior is out of control, I suppose a group of people could justify harassing individuals until they change their behavior. But there is a thin line between behavior modification and slavery. Since history doesn't repeat itself but often rhymes I figure that slavery of the past may have simply taken another form. They say big brother is watching us and they get everyone on RUclips and other social media platforms so they can monitor them. It is like the 1984 movie... All I'm saying is that it is silly thinking that we live during an era where the bad things are all in the past. That perhaps there is something sinister going on. 😢
I get 400mg Aripiprazole a month and I have been on it for several years. I just hope that it doesn’t make me feel worse, because I don’t think my psychiatrist would take me off it, because I always seem to have a problem with my mental health if I miss an appointment for the medication. I have been on various antipsychotics for 40 years since I was a teenager. I hardly know what life is without being ill all the time. I am really worried that these medications are making me physically ill as I now have diabetes as well.
@@wee-subwilson1897 I've been on it for a year or 2 but I read somewhere that a severe side effect of abilify is diabetes. Then again I'm no medical professional
My mother in law was prescribed antipsychotic drug for a once in a year migraine, we had no idea until we found the half empty pill sheet in her drawer. She is suffering big time from multiple neurotoxic meds she never needed, no tests or review of meds in 3 decades.
Great video. I am also an admirer of Dr. Breggin. These medications are also known to cause brain atrophy with long term use. I can't help but think that for the patients who do improve with medication that they need not be taken long term.
Great video. I'm now trying to come off of the medications for schizoaffective disorder. The blunted affect is the worst side effect for me. I've been off the injection for nearly 2 weeks and I feel my mental faculties coming back very slowly
Hi, thanks for sharing your story. My son, 16 now, was diagnosed with schizophrenia at 15 and is now with 2 types of medication. He doesn't want to take his medicine anymore but we are told it is dangerous. Are you being guided by someone to help you remove the medication? Are you replacing it with something else? Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide.
@@CRVGinc No worries. 16 is very early for schizophrenia so it may be a bit different for him. Im in my late 20’s. Unfortunately, no. I’m not being helped to come off them whatsoever. My Dr thinks otherwise and doesn’t listen to my pleas when I tell her the side effects are worse. I am coming off them altogether and I’m trying to go medication free. I dont want it in my life any more. Medication did reduce some of the symptoms for me and although I am trying to come off them, I would say at his young age, staying on the medication would be his best bet at living a normal life and not allowing the illness to exacerbate. Maybe when he’s a bit more mature, he can decide. My honest opinion is that at such a young age, the medication is probably keeping his illness at bay. All the best
I know people blame the manufacturers a lot but if you really think about it the doctors also know about this stuff whether they admit it or not they are partially to blame too at least the ones that prescribe it to people without letting them know the side effects or the history of the medication those ones are blame worthy to
Seems like many of these symptoms are from taking too high of a dosage of these medications. I am schizoaffective and know that if I do not take these medications I will not feel well and my life will fall apart. I know someone who is bipolar and does not take meds and is life is a disaster and he abuses drugs and alcohol to cope. I do not think this is very responsible to suggest that there is no one who needs to take these medications. I take Saphris and Viibryd and live a normal life (own a home, have had the same good job for a very long time,) etc
If I said "no one needs to take these medications" then I was wrong. I don't believe that necessarily, and think there are people who benefit from them. Generally, I do think it's a good idea to periodically attempt to taper down very gradually with the idea of either getting of the meds entirely or making sure you've found the smallest/effective dose possible :). Thanks for the comment.
I am switching from lurasidone to generic geodon in the next few days. Last year I had 6 ect treatments that didn't help either. I cry a lot because I'm so scared. Idon't know what to do anymore. I have osteoarthritis and cervical damage and the severe pain makes me very depressed in itself. It seems like I'm on a rollercoaster ride I cannot get off of. What are the alternatives 😢
Thank you for your honesty! I was forced onto these drugs at 13 years old following trauma. I became disabled, severely depressed, sleeping 14+ hours daily, and chronically suicidal. I lost 11 years of my life. Thankfully, I got off the poison in my mid-twenties, but still have physical health issues and complex trauma from the experience. We need more truth-tellers in psychiatry like you
@@AnaTubeEu wrong the medication are worse then the actuall cause.
@@AnaTubeEumost people who get prescrived Zyprexa for example are not even schizophrenic
I'm on arapiprizol how to wean off this drug. I feel it killing me. Really slow. I'm diabetic. And have eight stent. When will I be dead I'm 50 years old
My doctor prescribed me very small dose of Olanzepine along with antidepressants,it did help with to calm my mind down, and my sweating had stopped in public places, my hypochondria disappeared.
I developed all of this after I experienced an traumatic event while in the gym doing bench press of 120kg my last rep I held my breath pushing it hard and suddenly something burst in my right temple,I got up in enormous fear and shock and left.
Was experiencing headaches, blurry vision and I begun sweating profusely every where I went including in winter with - 10 in Poland.
I was 19 years old at that time played Basketball and attending college.
I couldn't focus on anything, couldn't stop thinking about this incident,I was taking Driving licence, and failed,as I was not able to focus on anything.
Within a year of all that I gave up on all my passions which was Basketball and was going to go to University studying Sports Science and Coaching,and wanted to become Basketball coach.
I was paranoid that I have certain diseases etc, like Aids, schizophrenia, Depression, then my skin went really bad because of stress from all of that.
Be humble and respect life and others you don't know what can happen.
What do you make of this?
Comments appreciated.
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@anatubeeu yea while in psychosis. Not for every day multi year (or even decade) use. Shutting up, that’s priceless.
Absolutely nailed it by the 0:12 mark man. That long list you run through of medication‘s sounds like the entire scroll of treatments that the doctors had prescribed me in the past. Thanks for putting up this video, I hope it reaches the masses and gets people to question what they are taking and read into it before they swallow a pill
I'm glad to see another person that can actually understand what's going on in the mental health industy. We need more people like you to help people understand how terrible these drugs are. I am one that has been coming off the these terrible drugs that i had been prescibed for over 20 years. I feel so much better off these and now my brain can heal.
I know what's going off not mental health industry but ne tal illness in general been there got teeshirt I've had mental health issues from being 14 years old been on neds for it most of my life had a breakdown aged 14 due yo my dad dieing suddenly whenni was 9 and it caught up with me at 14 . 2017 diagnosed eith bpd after a bad sucide attrempt and GAD my executive functioning area of brain is hopeless memory very bad there's not enough services for very sever mentally ill ,there's cutbacks in care, no long stay places ,very few homes specifically for mentally ill working age adults. My care teams fantastic but not everyone's so lucky mentally ill clog up A+E as where do they go sucide rates are high as people cant cope with no help
Don't forget quetiapine...it's the sneaky antipsychotic that doctors dish out like candy for insomnia/ anxiety/ depression and its every bit as bad for side-effects ( Don't even mention withdrawals- they are HELL!)
Horrible, got addicted, horrible side effect I can't sleep normally but they don't want to prescribe sleeping pills, they did not work for my anxiety made it worse
It is sneaky, but when it is urgent and Save person to kill them self, you take it! For ocd is the Best medicine, i am also against the pill, but to try everything, and be stable with this litlle pill, it is miracle, side affect are horible yes, i Have sign of narcolepsy, but they do their job
They give it to women that were placed in the mental hospital under the wrong last name experiment on humans
I was on that and abilify and omg I never realized how bad it was
@@StarlitMossI stopped taking them cold turkey, not because I wanted to, but because my psychiatrist literally hasn’t given me another prescription, I’ve been dealing with memory loss, confusing, agitation, nausea, loss of appetite, emotional numbness, restlessness, insomnia, it’s fucking hell
Damn, ur so brave coming out to warn people. Psychiatrists hate being criticised.
I've asked Psychiatrists - "What are you effectively doing to people and their potential?" They would reply with some Freudian rationale - if that didn't work, they implore how they're 'helping people,' via blazing indignation!
Because they are mentally ill narcissists
I appreciate their work - but no more antipsychotics ....they don't know how to help me now after the treatment....? insomnia that can rebound mild psychosis.. he suggested zopiclone and 75 of seroquel which will knock me out for like 2 days... I had side effects - heart palpitations - from the first time I went to a psychiatrist asking for help about severe insomnia, he had given me zopiclone.
You’re right about the trauma upon trauma.
Gaslighting is a type of psychological manipulation where someone makes another person doubt their own reality, memory, or sanity. The person doing the gaslighting may lie, twist facts, or deny things they said or did, making the other person feel confused or unsure about what’s real. The goal is to gain control or power over the victim by making them question their own perceptions.
So good to hear that I'm not the only one that hates these meds your video helped me feel less alone and you hit the nail on the hammer everything you described is 100% true
You are not alone 😊 Take care of yourself ok
@@MichelleJones-ky8gx Thank you! You too
@@AnaTubeEu Zombies and preferably dullards - which is why neurotoxic drugs are used in prisons!
I live in the uk and was diagnosed with psychosis about 4 years ago which was when i was sectioned after a mental breakdown whilst in extended police custody after a case of mistaken identity. I spent about 8 months in hospital where i was given medication such as a clopixol depot of 1000mg every 4 weeks as well as various benzos, zopiclone as well as sodium valporate throughout my stay. I was about 63kg at the time of my section and now its been about 18 months since being completely off any medication, but prior to weaning off and stopping, it left me at about 40kg heavier with a complete apathy to life, as well as diminished cognitive ability, and some parkinson adjacent side effects. I honestly dont know what to do and I feel betrayed as even when I raised these issues in the early stages, i was dismissed as being "paranoid". I just wish medication just was not the first port off call and advertised as a quick fix for these kind of issues.
@LyricalPlusdegree clopixol is an evil drug talk to you psychiatrist on weaning off it
Has the cognitive ability came back at all?
Love everything you're doing on your channel! Thank you so much for sharing all of your insight. I wish more people knew about these things!
Also, I'm really considering going back to school to become a psych nurse now. I'm almost 30 so going back to school seems a little crazy. But after living with someone with schizoaffective for 6 years, I think I would love to be there for people who need help the most. We need more compassionate empathetic people (like you!!) in the health care field.
@@ChloMikell oh gosh, I am sixty and thinking about going back to school. How old is too old? 30 is just a young PUP! It sounds like you would be of great service with the wisdom you have from age and experience and your innate compassion.
@@ChloMikell Health Care is curing infection, disease, broken bones, good nutrition + exercise. Mental Health is taking up a loving dedication and thus developing a cathexis. Thus, the 2 fields are quite separate!
Thank you for sharing this. The problem is that the vast majority of people seeking mental health care are trauma survivors. Most of those people are sexual trauma survivors, and much of the trauma began in their childhood. But "mental health care" staff more often than not, gas light trauma survivors and call the recounting of their abuse and assaults as "delusional". They then dope people who are already obviously vulnerable to predators and abusers, on these drugs. This makes them even more vulnerable when they cannot run, cannot defend themselves, cannot (and should not) drive a car, and cannot even recognize danger enough to run from it. No one drugs or locks the predators up in the hospital or discusses their "behavior". They just drug and lock up their victims, even subjecting them to human rights violations that a killer on death row would not be subjected to.
Then if the survivor can work at a job at all, they are apathetic and extremely accident prone, and that does not make for a productive nor safe employee. But you surely can tolerate abuse on those drugs. Is that a good thing to make people more obedient to abusers?
But in my case they nearly ended my life. They destroyed everything I ever got out of bed for or worked for. They destroyed my excellent physical health, my small business, my appearance, my trust in humanity (particularly the medical practitioners) and my standing in my community. I had to go on disability and that would not have happened if I had never been poisoned by the quacks. I worked for 45 years in a hi tech and dangerous union job to earn the money to have an operational small farm business in my retirement. Someone that skilled and productive does not need "antipsychotics for delusions".
Statistics show that 20% of children are sexually assaulted by adulthood and beyond the inherent dangers of childhood, 20% of female college students are sexually assaulted before they graduate. The danger lasts from cradle to grave for women. It is an epidemic and should be treated with the urgency that we treated covid.
The #metoo movement has proven how much sexual aggression and harassment is part of the American reality, and yet these privileged quacks are violating the human rights of trauma survivors, when recent estimates show that 80% of suicide attempts are by sexual assault survivors...who do not survive if they are successful. Then they are simply victims or both the sexual predators and often the "mental health care" abusers, as well. I recommend that people watch youtube therapists and find online support. Seeking "mental health care" will lead to further abuse, and possibly the destruction of all that you have struggled against all odds to build, and could possibly end your life. It nearly killed me and I am so lucky to be alive today.
I would like to start a coalition of sexual assault survivors, male and female, who would like to make sure that psychiatric abuse and gas lighting sexual trauma survivors never happens to anyone else ever again.
You can't take a drug to heal a broken spirit any more than you can take a drug to heal a broken bone. It all takes time, radically good nutrition, a healthy lifestyle, exercise, a supportive community, and LOVING good care. The withdrawals from the antidepressants, benzos, adhd drugs and other mind altering "meds" are exactly what are causing so many people to end up in the hospital when the withdrawal syndrome mimics mental illness symptoms that the person never had prior to being poisoned with mind altering drugs, all for the crime of being sexually assaulted or abused. That's when they bring in the antipsychotics to dope you into complete submission. These drugs are increasing mental illness in this country as can be readily seen with the stats of increasingly hospitalizations since the invention of these "miracle cures". Avoid the compensatory chemical changes in your beautiful brain by simply not taking any psyche meds at all ever...no antidepressants, no antianxiety benzos, no adhd drugs, no mood stabilizers and especially no antipsychotics. I wish I had never taken that first antidepressant. I wish I had never sought "mental health care" after being traumatized as a child. It was the biggest mistake of my life. You are just handing over the power, control, agency, happiness, creativity, compassion and joy in your life, to people who don't really care about you and are most probably idiots. Don't do it!
THIS. THIS. THIS. Thank you Janet for this incredible and insightful comment. It's EXACTLY how I feel about so much of mental illness.
thank you Janet. ive also been thru some heavy abuse and been gaslit by psychiatrists that im apparently "delusional".
@@clare2439 I am in a very large support group of survivors of Catholic church and Boy Scouts abuse, and the consensus is that most people who have suffered an extreme level of trauma are not able to focus for long periods of studies particularly if threats of continued abuse are present...such as the 20% female rape statistic in college.
So it is a very significant problem that people who work in mental health care with any authority, have lived a naive and privileged existence that prevents them from understanding that abuse not only happens, but that it can be diabolical, severe, and committed by the least likely appearing people with the best credentials. There is a dangerous cognitive dissonance in the entire field that is unlikely to change soon.
There are also a significant amount of psychopaths and control freaks who enter the profession because they have an even more dangerous mental illness than any of their patients, and there are psychopaths who enter the profession for the unquestioned power that it gives them over vulnerable people. There is a tremendous amount of bigotry and misogyny, based on both ignborance and malice.
I recommend that if you find a group of survivors on any platform online that you can...or in a group IRL setting. If you have psych meds that you would like to get out of your life, please be very careful about tapering slowly. There are many social media support groups for drugs classes as well as individual drugs. I wish you the best.
@@janetnash8588 thanks for sharing. I've found the same thing actually, that many psychiatrists and even therapists are malicious. They pretend to be good by "helping others". Its the dark side of the mental health industry.
Janet thanks again for the response. I made another video where I posted your first comment and summarized it for people. Should you want to see it, here's the vid link + time stamp. ruclips.net/video/Zy8yzJADKQY/видео.html. Time stamp = 22:35 Janet Nash The State of Mental Health
THANK YOU FOR BEING SO STRONG!
Thank you. I am a social work student. I am older, and have seen how systems fail people. Keep putting the word out on Robert Whitaker. I also like Peter Breggin. The number of children being drugged is the next travesty.
I was placed on risperidone after having a Manic psychosis episode. I've been diagnosed with having an eating disorder in the past and the doctors knew that, as I was under weight...and yet, they still prescribed me risperidone in the hospital. I gained 50 pounds in 5 months. Long story short, I feel a while lot better and a whole lot worse cause three years later I'm 70 pounds heavier and don't have the psychiatrist to help me ween off of it. Thank you for sharing this information. I wish I had the wherewithall during my mental health episode years ago.
50 pounds, very slow brain, inability to concentrate,
try some cbd sis it help with my damages big time 😊
I'm grateful that I'm prescribed an antipsychotic that makes me eat a lot more and gain weight. I was anorexic and very underweight as well, but now my body feels so much more comfortable. It also has soothed my ED voice so much. I'm going to need to watch what I eat soon, as I've gained 30+ pounds this year already, but it's worth it for me
@@xxbeccabrutalityxx7873 very low energy the uncontrollable eye face muscle movement seizures extreme weigh gain in the area of the knees and stomach elevated stress levels child taken away stolen motherhood
@@xxbeccabrutalityxx7873 some people got rid of anorexia without pills although there is a discrimination against fat people not that all fat people are super nasty thin people are horrible too
Antipsychotics are not a long term solution. I dont think professionals understand this. Scary stuff. There needs to be better solutions for these mental disorders.
100% agree… they work great in acute instances.
Treat the traumas. There’s probably no such thing as mental disorders. Thats what I’m starting to believe…
They do understand this. They dont care about you. Its their business.
Therapy and lifestyle changes. If you find out the psychological causes of your psychosis/mania and solve them, you won't have anymore. Therapy is very helpful with this. Also, eat healthy, stay out of every drug (my psychosis was due to weed plus awful traumas and toxic environment). Escape as much as you can from the toxic environment and you are healed. Big Pharma does not like that because a healed patient is a lost customer
I can't speak for schizohrenics, or manic depressants, but my problem is more anxiety. I also had substance abuse issues. I stopped seeing a psycharist because I refused medication, and he refuced CBT, but I only have anxiety issues so I don't speak for everyone.
Thank you for making this video, people need to know these things
My son was forced onto clozapine the deterioration in his illness is horrific.
but they insist he has been properly diagnosed and the medication is a theroputic dose of medication for his condition,
everybody but the professionals can recognise the terrible change in his condition. The professionals are in total denial.
Defending the medication is more important than the patients mental health. The attitudes within the system is shocking.
Well said!! This is our experience as well.
I've been on different types of antipsychotic med for over a year and I've noticed many different types of motor decline, cognitive ability is deeply flawed and the apathy is almost unbearable. I got my Dr to discontinue the invega sustenna injection but will still be taking Xyprexa daily along with Venlafaxine…. It may take a few months for the invega to clear out of my system but thankfully, I know I won't have to put that in my body again. Antipsychotics have deeply diminished my quality of life
Thank you. I value this video so much. It reaffirms what I know. Since, it reaffirms what I already know, it in turn, grants me the confidence, strength and the faith I need to make better decisions in my future. I have had such a hard day, and my anxiety is getting the better of me. Yet I have been sitting quietly, practicing mindfulness, and researching into the facts I need to hear from another, to help instill the bravery I deserve to reclaim my life. I'm sure the racing heart, will slow to a normal place, when I can find the serenity to forgive these corrupt companies that manufacture such trash to countless innocent people.
Agree. They can be very dangerous and life altering
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My doctor prescribed 3mg of Risperidone for the mania phase, he asked me to take it at night, I took it yesterday, but I'm feeling very dizzy, empty head, sedation, stuffy nose, I can't even stand up straight, it was the worst medication I've ever used , antipsychotic is not enough for me, before using it I could have researched more and talked to him to start with a smaller dose or not use this one, he had said anything I could have warned him, I don't know why he told me He gave me this medication which is strong, if I had known I wouldn't have taken it and I would have told the doctor about it. I'm thinking he started on too high a dose, which is why I'm so bad with the side effects.
@@babynaysc wow ,those side effects don’t sound fun. I think I’d be wanting too talk to dr about the side effects and see about changing mds or some other type of therapy to help if possible.
THE PROVIDERS HAVE KNOWN ABOUT ALL OF THESE HORRORS FOR 65 YEARS.THEY ARE THE PARTIES ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR WELLBEING.THEY ALL KNOW. DON'T FALL FOR THE LINE THAT "THEY DIDN'T KNOW." THEY KNEW.
Same with antidepressants. Withdrawals from psych meds are a pure nightmare even if tappered down very slowly, I can't believe that doctors are still denying withdrawals and the severity of it. To all the psychiatrists I talked so far about it they just laughed it off, this problem does not exist for them which is just shocking to me.
ruclips.net/video/Zy8yzJADKQY/видео.html. Time stamp = 20:12 Afura33 Antidepressant Withdrawals
Everything is relative. You should try self-medicating with strong opiates. Then quitting. THAT, is WITHDRAWAL. I have tried and for various reasons, quit taking almost all common antidepressants. They are nothing to quit. UNLESS...they REALLY HELP,! Then it isn't withdrawal that comes on from quitting them! It is the Hell of having the DEPRESSION COME BACK!
@@jeffjones3040 then be happy that you are one of the lucky people that don't get withdrawals from antidepressants.
this UK
want to kill men off
@@jeffjones3040I'm a recovering opiate addict and I'll tell you straight up antidepressant screwed me up worse they probably had me go to opiates to give myself that Rush of dopamine that I was lacking from being on antidepressants my whole life all different kinds and antipsychotics, it's just that the SSRI and antipsychotic after effects or withdrawal issues are not stated straight to our face from the prescribing psychiatrists, so you then think that it's just you, but when you really think about it your brain has changed you know you better than anybody else so
You know... There is such a thing as "Over Medicating". You are right. Antipsychotics are definitely overused. I think the same holds try for antidepressants and antianxiety drugs. ( I have first hand experience with all 3)
Same here with antipsychotics and benzos and when they left me feeling complete apathy they started prescribing me antidepressants to counter-blance the issues it created
@@Elevennineight Freudian disease-like labeling and neurotoxic drugs - have no limits!
lmao they prescribed me anti-psychotics just for anxiety due to severe abuse. 😂
It took less than 1 month for me to stop taking them.
Evil life destroying drugs
to quote Lisa Simpson: " the whole damn system is wrong!"
I couldn't smell the champoo in my shower, feel the breeze in my face, feel the hair of my dog whenever I pet him, taste the food I was eating, or feel the movement of my limbs.
My physical health, mind and life went from good to nightmerish and hellish.
From what?
@@timcepin3386 Whatcha mean?
Hello! Thank you for making this video. It has given me hope.
My story began this year in March: I went into a temporary psychosis/mania from smoking weed. And was put into a mental health clinic where i was told i had bipolar. I was told i need medication and later injected with abilify and told i need to be on it for years.
May, I noticed i no longer had feelings/emotions, and i knew something was wrong.
June, i was told to take another shot and i decided to take the oral route instead.
July, i did research and i decided on my own to get a new psychiatrist, told him my story and he allowed me to taper off the abilify.
August, I've been a week and a half drug free.
I am still concerned about my emotions/feelings/thinking.
Do you have any advice on the healing journey?
As of now i am eating healthy/exercising/vitamins.
I'd love to hear from you! Thank you again for making all of your videos
I'm glad you're going better!
Hi Jessie, my son had a very similar episode about a year ago. He started smoking weed and went into psychosis, then he was given antipsychotics, which helped him come back to reality but now, he's been taking medicine for a little under a year.
Has your doctor advice you to taper off your medication? Our doctor told us that my son would be taking these medications indefinitelly. My son is tired of the medicine already and wants to stop taking them. I wish he can stop taking them but I am afraid of him going into another episode of psychosis.
@@CRVGinc I suggest you get another opinion. If this was his only episode of psychosis and it was induced by street drugs, he may not have another episode.
Best wishes to you and your family.
Thank you so much for speaking up about what goes on.
thank you for such an informative and educated explanation, i always questioned the hidden long term effects of mental health meds, would love a video on SSRI’s too
The loss of joy is the hardest
OH I KNOW my dopamine centres are fried.
@@JCRastafari how are you now? Are your dopamine levels back to normal?
Med induced anhedonia could be permanent
@@granvilleisaac5689 no. i have countless health issues now including seizures. looking into acetylcholine repairing nutrients lately..
@Bitcoinfreedom - that is NO way to live. whats the point of living without joy?
One thing that psychiatrists do which frustrates me is that they do not want to prescribe benzodiazepines, which can relieve depression and anxiety and gave very few bad side effects. Instead they like to give you too large doses of antipsychotics with a heck of a lot of bad side effects.
I suggest researching more into benzodiazepines. This class of medication can be harmful if taken long-term. It's a great medication to stabilize someone's anxiety over the short-term, but it almost always needs to be withdrawn once the person has developed other coping mechanisms. Long-term benzodiazepine use can cause addiction where the body and brain gets physically dependent on it and more dosage is needed to achieve the same result. Withdrawal from long-term use can be deadly.
I no longer mess with them.
@@PC1989 what about an overdose damage like what i am forced to suffer due to forceddrugging
I second this. My understanding is that w/ benzos you "could" use them for psychosis (which they are sometimes, and indicated in catatonia), but that they don't often use them not so much b/c of the side effects--surely they don't have worse side effects than antipsychotics (AP)--but b/c of the tolerance issue. It sounds like you have to eventually keep upping the dose, and then one day, no matter how much you up the dose, it doesn't help, then you want off of them and sometimes the withdrawal can be a living hell, and tapering can be very difficult.
then again, i wonder about APs too as it seems like the above would apply to them as well . .I would imagine the neurotransmitter receptors die off/atrophy and something similar occurs, and they can have withdrawal issues too.
would be curious what the research has to say on this. I'll ask the prescriber I work with about this. I think there's more prescribing stigma around benzos and i think there's prescribers who don't want to draw unnecessary attention from the DEA since it's a scheduled substance as well.
Yup . Doesn’t make sense at all. .
Move to Vermont where they are so in the back pocket of big pharma that they pass out any psyche meds like Halloween candy. I don't even really have any anxiety that was not based on real life stressors. I have depression and PTSD for 4 decades after childhood sexual assault. In other states doctors told me NOT to take any psyche drugs because I don't need them and they mess with your brain chemistry. In Vermont they gas lit my sexual violence and harassment history, and forced me onto benzos, APs, ADs, mood stabilizers and more. But the benzos for me were as bad as the AP's in a different way. The benzos made me more anxious when I wasn't high on them, than I ever was in my life....terrified in fact....and they gave me severe akethesia, and caused me to have suic1dal thoughts. They also caused "benzo rage", although some APs like risperidone also caused rage. But what is odd is that I am by nature a very peaceful person, so how they thinks that these drugs given out with zero conclusive diagnostic testing and based on a "doctor's" hunch, is "health care" or even care at all. It is pure insanity and proves to me just how closely related to chimps we humans are.
it sucks. I have nowhere to turn. This explains my experience entirely, but i am so numb all I can do is wait. I have job training coming up im waiting for so i can afford to move without being homeless, all while being coerced through court-ordered medication. I'm looking into moving somewhere far away from hospitals and institutions, without living in a tent, but I'm afraid with the drowsiness I wont do well in a lot of high-demand jobs that demand some form of mental rigor. When I'm off the drugs though, I was off them for 9 months, I was supremely paranoid, which could be the side effects from insomnia/symmptoms of coming off cold-turkey of the meds. It's literally tiring to be alive, at this point.
God bless for this honest testimony .
I wish we can someone like you in NZ, to talk to the local pharmacies and health professionals to talk about more awareness of the medications. I am also coming forward to talk about Mental Health, and the silent stigmatisation of Mental Health in our country. The silent stigmas of Mental Health has to stop. No body should have to suffer issues alone in this life. We all need to give an account about what changes need to be made and what works or what doe not work for people in the community, and I believe Mental Health, the silent stigma has to stop.
Matt
Well said!❤
Thanks for this info!!
I was on Latuda for 2 years, I gained around 50 pounds. I stopped taking it last year (2023) around Thanksgiving. I was tired of having to eat 350 calories just to take the med and would fall asleep about an hour later whether I wanted to or not. I was feeling so down because I felt like my personality just wasn't there anymore. I've lost 30 pounds since being off and so happy! My brain isn't completely back to normal, but I'm so happy to be off Latuda and will never go back unless I absolutely have to.
Good video. Please do a video on how safe mood stabilizers are. Depakote etc.
This may also prove helpful to the innocent victims of dark psychology practitioners: 'Reactive abuse' occurs when someone who has been enduring ongoing abuse or provocation finally reacts emotionally, often with anger or defensiveness. The abuser then uses this reaction to label the victim as 'aggressive' or 'unstable,' gaslighting or manipulating the situation to appear as though they are the victim. This tactic can make the true victim feel guilty and question their own behavior, while allowing the abuser to justify their actions and maintain control. Recognizing 'reactive abuse' and dark psychology is crucial for victims to understand that their reaction is a response to continuous harm, not a sign of personal instability or mental illness. Do not be fooled by an overly clever web of liars. Stay safe from mental traps.
yes this is totally true in mental health and i feel like we see it all time! :(
My weight gain from quetiapine and other antipsychotics was so fast that I thought some of my clothes had shrunk in the wash. I now have hypothyroidism and high cholesterol. I went from normal weight to having my mom making me some clothes because I can’t find clothes in the store that fit me very easily. I’m scared.
Sorry to hear Amy, thank you for sharing this comment. What kind of physical activity are you getting on a daily basis?
@@A_Psych_Nurse not much at all. Some house work. But that’s all. I get out of breath very quickly. I now have a space cleared out where I can start doing some basic exercise. Thinking of asking for metformin as well.
I got put on quetiapine years ago and I too have developed under active thyroid, went from a size 8 to a 22. Not a happy bunny, now told my shrink I refuse to take it any longer
You are right about antipsychotics being unsafe but having a psychotic episode is more damaging / debilitating than the drugs could ever be.
Same with SSRI SNRI antidepressants, they can cause permanent side effects like PSSD (post ssri sexual dysfunction)
I am so so scared that I am damaged for life due to antipsychotics. I have been prescribed different types of antipsychotics on and off for serveral years and also given injections with zyprexa at times. I feel every bit of these horrible side effects and that is also why I always seem to stop taking them. It scares me and I dont feel like it is accurately prescribed to someone like me, just like youre talking about.
Is it possible for the brain to recover completely from these types if lobotomy-like effects once you stop taking them or ammI damaged for life?…
Untreated schizophrenia has a bunch of crappy side effects too. How does anyone balance the risks of all of these things?
lmao they gave it to me just for anxiety.......
Thank you for telling truth. Yes it is used too much. To manage people in the ward.
I was on Quetiapine or as it's known Seroquel along with Lorazepam which I still believe Benzodiazepines are the most dangerous of any drug. Now I don't know which one did it, but when I was coming off the Seroquel I developed more visual and perceptions issues that I didn't know was possible. From seeing visual snow, aggressive after images, seeing flashing aggressive patterns when my eyes are closed, nightmares, hair loss, sensitive eyes to everything, light sensitivity, seeing yellow and blue spots in my vision, this over whelming restlessness sensation through my body almost like Akathisia, inability to gain an erections, I'm just now starting to feel my left arm again... And I keep having these brain sensations I could explain if I tried. It's like my brain is splitting from reality it's the scariest thing I've gone through to date well that and my vision issues
Scary! thanks for sharing snake. I've heard the benzos are VERY difficult to come off of, esp. once you've reached a point where you don't feel like they are helping much and are on a very high dose.
Supposedly titrating from say 10mg of Lorazepam a day to 5mg a day (over months and months of time of course) is easier than once you make it down to 2mg/day and trying to titrate to 1mg/day.
wishing you the best of luck and i firmly the believe the body and brain have an immense capability to heal and recover!
@@A_Psych_Nurse Being on 30+ different psych meds ovr a 40+ yr period (starting w/Ritalin @ age 4 in 1971; I'm 55 now), I can attest 2 the damage caused by psych meds (became psych med-free on 1/1/2017 after witnessing a 4mer neighbor/friend being addicted 2 Ativan; I've been since psych med-free since then). All psych meds r "chemical pacifiers" (designed 2 silence u when standing up 2 & defending myself against abusers, antagonists, bullies, harassers, instig8rs, & perpetr8rs). Sorry but psych meds (especially ANTIPSYCHOTICS) r very unnecessary.
i was od'd with zyprexa aka olanzapine which is a thienobenzodiazapine they injected my front hips with 30mg and other drugs as well. i have serious damage tremors seizure etc and if i dont get the proper dosage of cbd now along with proper diet and thc it feels like i begin dying. horrible feeling. cant wait to go to heaven.
@@JCRastafari Actually; Zyprexa/Olanzapine r neuroleptics but bc Olanzapine ends in "zapine", I completely agree w/u RE: the term "thienobenzodiazapine". That's bc neuroleptics function in a similar manner 2 benzos. There4; I thank u 4 that "new" term.
Ahhh. I thought I had heard the Quetiapine before. Haha.
I've been on rispolux for almost a fake diagnosis of schizophrenia. My decision making, conversation skills, planning, problems in memory, loss of pleasure, weight gain drastically happened. My problems are completely rejected by my psychiatrist (Azizul Islam in Dhaka, Bangladesh) and my parents are manipulated by them and I'm bound to carry on this sufferings 😭
Take agency and take back control of your life. I’m the same I’ve been extremely passive but if you don’t take responsibility for your life you will have no life! I should know I’ve lost so many relationships because of this drug
Unfortunately you are one of many.
@@hummingbird4934YES. THAT HAPPENS TO VIRTUALLY EVERYONE WHO IS A VICTIM OF THESE DESTROYERS OF LIFE.
Medicating children is basically punishing them for the deficits in their family, and not being born with instincts the way animals are and having to be nurtured and taught properly. That’s not even human. Medicating a child is a sorry excuse for love and proper Medical care in some cases, such as pandas -or physical deformities that affect blood flow to the brain. Or allergies..
Famous folk singer Woody Guthrie had a genetic disorder that caused mental imbalance. A doctor told his wife over the phone that her husband had delusions of grandeur he thinks he is a famous singer and author. His wife rushed to make the two hour drive to show the doctor Woody's records and published books.
I hope you or someone on here can help me!
Cut the long story short I was sectioned last year after being medication free for 3 months. I was living a really healthy meaningful life for those 3 months. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder about 11 years ago and in that time I’ve been on and off antipsychotics.
When my mental health team found out I stopped taking medication and my family reported that I was “becoming more spiritual” due to me completing a Reiki Master course, they came out to my house and deemed me to be manic and psychotic. On admission to the hospital I was seen by a consultant and they said I fit the criteria for manic because I was irritable (well hey you just locked me up for no reason!) and had grandiose beliefs because I thought I could heal people through Reiki (they said they didn’t believe in Reiki).
After 3 weeks of me refusing medication because I was totally normal ( I have proof of this because I kept a vlog on Facebook of my time in there), they restrained me and injected me with a first generation antipsychotic called Depixol (also breaking 2 of my ribs in the process!). They put me on 2 weekly depot injections and I quickly declined into a depressive state. I went from being social with other inpatients to a total recluse on the ward just wanting to sleep all the time and cut myself off from the world.
They released me on a community treatment order (UK) meaning I am forced to have my depot injections of the antipsychotic in the community and if I don’t they will forcefully return me to hospital and administer it there. I wake up most days feeling suicidally depressed just wanting to curl up and die but feeling restless at the same time. I also suffer from TD side effects but I’m just told to take procyladine (anticholagenic) as and when I experience any attacks.
My consultant and mental health team refuse to accept it’s the antipsychotic causing the depression when I know 100% it is as I’ve experienced the same before when on the Abilify depot (as soon as I came off it within 2 months all suicidal thoughts stopped). They won’t change my meds and have just renewed my CTO for another year. I have low dopamine anyway due to me having severe ADHD too so the further reduction in it is causing chaos in my brain.
I really can’t see a light at the end of the tunnel and battle with these horrible thoughts every hour of every day. I’ve had enough I really have so this is my last resort reaching out on here….if anyone can help me I would really appreciate it from the bottom of my heart.
In my experience antipsychotics are killing me 😢
I’m praying for you in Jesus name , - Christian music has been proven - it heals
Sounds like my story- I feel ya through and through! ❤️
Praying for you brother ! I hope things get better for you, we are not meant to suffer! We should be enjoying life !
See if you can get on quietipine if uou meet them half wsy it's best then if you take uour meds you will be taken off a community section bearing in mindxwhile your on thst police can come to your home any time they like, and take you back into hospital same in public you wouldn't be covered by insurance to fly anywhere on uour own an airline can turn you away even at gate your gps will jump on any rudeness at doctors go get you back in hospital and you need your gps, friends, care team
One time at the group home that I used to live in, they decided that I was irritable because I didn't feel like eating dinner and going to my room. And the answer to that was anti-psychotics lol.
Just to be clear, they offered an adult with no mental illnesses or personality disorders anti-psychotics just simply because they weren't hungry or sleepy. Wild.
Off-label promotion refers to the sale of medications for uses outside of the approved indication. In these cases, medications are prescribed for a variety of symptoms that are not directly related to the purpose for which they were originally developed. This expands the use of the drug, resulting in increased sales. A notable example is Johnson & Johnson, which was forced to pay a legal settlement of 2.2 billion dollars for promoting Risperdal and Invega for unapproved uses, that is, off-label. Off-label increases largely sales, and thats why so many mental illnesses are diagnosed.
I've been on zyprexa for 2 months and I quit cold turkey. I know this is wrong but the anxiety I was getting when trying to taper off from the fact I was still taking this poison was driving me insane. Now I just don't feel normal...I don't have physical withdrawals but I just feel incredibly off as if I'm inprisoned in my own mind. Does this thing ever go away?
yeah i think you should recover b/c 2 months ain't that long--fortunately!
i'd say make sure you're doing the right stuff right--drinking water, getting moderate exercise, prioritizing sleep/sleep schedule, healthy relationships & diet, etc :). Your brain/neurotransmitters/receptors just need some time to heal most likely.
How do u feel now? Going through the same phase. Any advice will be helpful.
He’s telling the truth. Think Twice before taking any drugs.especially those.
My experience: I was forcefully fed with anti-psychotics by Indian daacatars without any diagnosis or tests and them vaguely claiming it to be delusions and paranoia. I had C-PTSD caused by bullying, abuse and sexually harassment by Indian schoolmates and ex Indian friends cuz insecure and envious and my narc. Indian parents along with them spreading rumors, sexual innuendoes and so on. I went through these bitter experiences for five years, it was long term, and it actually never stopped even till today. They used coercion tactics to feed me with high doses of antipsychotics prescribed by low-skilled Indian daacatars, cuz I confronted them (my parents) about the abuse which inturn had adverse effects on my self esteem, and later was gaslighted by the abusers (that includes my family), to make me seem like delusional or crazy. I was always sedated while going to college, barely was aware of my surroundings, having allergies, jaw twitching frequently. Even tho nothing changed I learnt to cope the abusers, tried to act like I never noticed their abuse for a year, using gray rock method, reverse gaslighting strategies to cope with their harassment and ultimately the medications were stopped by them.
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I think something that's often overlooked is how the medication interacts with others, like SSRIs. I'm on quetiapine and wasn't experiencing anything major that I didn't think I couldn't power through. Was put on an SSRI later on and my body immediatly hated it, and started getting the bad symptoms from the quetiapine even aftet stopping the SSRI. I'm fully on board going off of it but because of my constant hessitation with medication my dosage method was changed so I couldn't taper off (instead of two 25mg pills I was changed to one 50mg pill. This meant I couldn't cut my dosage in half for a little bit).
I have a granddaughter that was suffering with depression and anxiety. The psychiatrist gave her one after another antidepressants which did not help much. Then she moved onto antipsychotic medication olanzapine changing her previous diagnosis to bipolar. I’ve seen the difference in my granddaughter as of the last six months. She has gained weight, she lacks emotion or interest in most things. I can’t imagine what it’s doing to her on the inside. Having seen your video I can understand what’s happening to her. I want her off these toxic drugs How do I approach her parents about this since she lives with them although she’s not a minor? She’s convinced she needs these drugs. What are the alternatives?
ruclips.net/video/Zy8yzJADKQY/видео.html. Time stamps = 17:28 Jim Granddaughter Depression + Bipolar. Hope this helps Jim :)
Get her to a Chinese acupuncture doctor + with herbs. He has to prescribe herbs. And go to a homeopath. Your daughter will be completely free you will see a new girl. Look up how many people got off their medication with acupuncture. Its unreal. Go for it. I promise you will not be disappointed. I promise you ❤️
@@ciancoyle9913 Thank you for the advice. I will see if she will try that.
@@jimmcconnell7328 no worries I hope it goes very well 💖 in the meantime Google acupuncture + homeopathy for anxiety it should give you both hope
@@RelentlessTriumph My granddaughter is easing into a keto diet and uses the keto gummies to help her along. She is starting to lose weight but these medications have really messed with her metabolism. It will be an uphill battle for her in the coming months but her mood has improved and she has her grandparents support which has helped.
I was given quetiapine for anxiety and insomnia
I gained a kilo in a month and my cholesterol shot up to 7. That's only some of the horrible side-effects I got. I was told to eat less ( try that when you're in a zombie state and you're eating everything in sight in the middle of the night) the carb craving is insane, its just uncontrolable.
I'm tapering off them and getting withdrawals such as increased anxiety and insomnia, constant overheating and sweats, formication and crazy moodswings.. I told my psychiatrist of this and she denied that withdrawals happen, basically telling me its all in my head.
Yikes! I'll be doing a video covering metabolic stuff here in a while--but yeah the antipsychotics mess w/ all of that stuff--including hormones regulating appetite, and then it's a vicious cycle (just gets worse and worse).
@@A_Psych_Nurse I look forward to that video. There's so little new/recent videos on mental health and medication difficulties.. I think people suffering really need to talk to eachother and compare notes.. I find I just can't get any honest information from any psychiatrists I deal with. I used to not understand what gaslighting meant but now I have firsthand experience of it from my psychiatrist!
@@A_Psych_Nurse i am so glad to have found your channel since it is very hard for me to find info relating to my circumstance .. would you mind also if you come across anything related to big time type damages that remains post discontinuation of zyprexa? everything i can find talks about peoples bodies regaining normalcy after discontinuing the pharma... 😥 maybe brains and hearts just dont heal up if damaged to a certain degree. just sitting here feeling like death again today. oh well.
I was also given quetiapine for my anxiety after I was in hospital for a couple of months. It actually made me feel better while I was on it but I'm really happy I stopped taking them .
You left this drug use ????what should I do???I take quetiapine 50 mg
I respect your opinion and mostly agree. However, I take Invega sustenna injections for schizoaffective disorder bi-polar type. Without it, I couldn’t speak coherently (much like he described in the video), I didn’t know what was going on around me, I’d be awake for a week at a time, wasn’t eating, and would spend all day taking to the voices in my head. I couldn’t even remember how old my daughter was. This DX came out of nowhere, I am 36 years old. Thank you for speaking out I do appreciate others knowing what those with mental health conditions have to deal with. I HAVE to take this medication and I HAVE to live with the side effects. I’ve gained 100lbs in a year, I no longer get my period, I have been lactating for almost 3 years now cz of it, and I have severe muscle cramps around the week of the month that I get my shot. It all becomes worth it though because I am able to be a mother to my daughter again, able to go back to work and school. Antipsychotics are definitely a double edged sword!
thanks for this perspective :). I'm GLAD that Invega is working for you despite you experiencing some of the side effects--and yes, if Invega is giving you your life back, then more power to you!
You don’t have to live with this. Look into ketogenic diet. It’s not pseudoscience-there’s plenty of scientific research readily available online to prove it’s an effective treatment for severe mental illness. It has worked for me. Please just look into it. You don’t have to live like this.
Thank you for your perspective. I was reading the comments and feelling guilty for takeing the meds I take.
I’m also a mother of 3 kids, so I have to function properly not a good time tom make experience a on taking off some meds…
I have been prescribed Seroquel 300mg for insomnia. I hate it because it is making me diabetic. I have weaned off of it down to 100mg. It's been rough trying to sleep. Really rough. I want off Seroquel altogether. It's horrible.
The thing is we still do not know the fine details of how the brain works and what exactly causes psychosis or what we collectively call psychosis even is. We have some very plausible ideas but the brain is so complex with things compounding off each other that when we try to address these issues something else breaks quite often. Its VERY IMPORTANT that your psychiatrist is a great one since poor choice of drug influencing the brain can destroy a life extremely quick. Might not kill the patient but can make their life not worth living.
I believe I am suffering from ptsd from an incident where a neghbour of mine was going nuts. When I was in the hospital for a week on no anti psychotics 3 months ago, I felt way better than I have since
Thanks for this video! It feels really nice to hear you describe so many things that happen to me and I had to go through especially during involuntary medication
when my wife was suffering from a TBI and i could no longer take care of her alone i took her to the ER to get help with her gaining weight because she wouldn't eat enough and was too thin. even though i stayed there in the ER every day with her she would always start yelling for me whenever i left the room. she did the same at home. whenever she would be loud they would give her antipsychotics to knock her out. i had to constantly supervise to try to prevent that from happening. i fed her every meal while she was in the ER for over a week like i did at home. half the time she couldn't eat because they would keep her knocked out with the antipsychotics. then they transferred her to the nursing home and i was there feeding her every day again and making sure she was comfortable but they would knock her out with the antipsychotics every day and half the time she could only eat one meal a day because she was unconscious. i spoke to all of the staff every day nearly to make sure they knew i was going to feed her dinner and that i expected her to not be knocked out so she could eat. that was the situation for i think a couple months. i was there every day and it was always the same and then they called hospice in and she passed away. i disagree completely with the use of antipsychotic use for anyone. i think it should be criminal to drug people like that in ERs or nursing homes. someone who works in your profession has the credentials to contact government officials and ask for changes to the laws. thanks for being active on this issue with your youtube channel.
Stay away from psychiatrists im begging you guys.
A psychiatrist is a drug dealer working for the pharmacutical industry, duty bound to priscribe and defend the drugs,
very well paid.
Thank you
Mostly not trustworthy. Yes, rather avoid them. At least don't expect help from these people. They seem only to help themselfes.
Sad thing is most their victims are ppl under 18 with no rights. In the U.S the mental health system is the #1 branch of the cash for kids system and it's tied to all the branches.
As someone who's been to 8 of them I couldn't agree more
Never met this dude but I promise you he has experience in emergency inpatient care for psychiatric needs...
A lot of experience.
Well then what must I do to get rid of manic psychosis? I need to prevent episodes but I don’t want an antipsychotic.
That is the difficulty. You have on the one hand patients who must be treated because otherwise it will result in psychotic episodes, and they can cause the deaths of patients and also other people. On the other hand these drugs do not have good adverse effect profiles, especially at high doses. If someone has bipolar disorder then for mania there is often a better option and that is the anticonvulsants, epileptic medications. Much better side effect profiles and they often work well, and if needed they can probably be combined with a low dose antipsychotic. One of the big problems is that many patients are treated in the public system and the doctors often don’t have the time to work on dosing levels.
What about taking abilify for tics and intrusive thoughts? A doctor prescribed me aripiprzole or abilify 5 mg. I been taking half of a pill at night . Im on my third day and already had side effects hands shaking neck twitching lightly , I feel sleepy and I feel a pressure on my chest when I'm breathing. This medication helped me with my intrusive thoughts, I have less now but I'm afraid If something bad happens. They don't know for sure if I have OCD .
There's a number of studies that come up if you google Abilify and tics, and it looks like it's been studied to decrease symptoms of Tourette's. At the same time, we know Abilify can cause involuntary movements with long-term use, so I'd be curious what your prescriber would say about that. And yes, Abilify is commonly prescribed for intrusive thoughts. Also curious what a neurologist would advise. Do you see a neurologist?
Hi @A Psych Nurse. If these medications shouldn't be used long term, then what do you consider is the best alternative?
Some countries rely less heavily on antipsychotics than the US does and supposedly have better outcomes. I think there may be some people who need to take them long-term; then again, if it were me who was diagnosed w/ schizophrenia and I had the wherewithal/insight to slowly taper off my medications, I would try to periodically do so, ensuring that either I wouldn't need them at all, or that I was on the lowest and effective dose possible (this isn't possible for all diagnosis w/ schizophrenia and it really depends on severity of the disease).
It seems there are some who need them on a short-term basis, and there are others who do okay taking them on a long-term basis, and may even need them long-term.
The best alternative may be nothing. It's a VERY complex situation. (For some people, given their circumstance, drug use, lack of resources, etc., antipsychotics seem to have a place in their life).
I think healthy overall life (diet, exercise, social life, abstaining from environmental and drug-induced triggers, etc.) + some sort of productive activity is best. This is sometimes a pie-in-the-sky idea though.
Hopefully I answered your question.
@@A_Psych_Nurse thanks so much for your reply! I lead a productive life but my episodic illness has meant I always end up relapsing and back on long term antipsychotics. I'm starting more exercise and will look at diet
@@libotoole8489 you may want to look into Kelly Brogan, Libby. I've listened to her on a Joe Rogan podcast and she has some interesting ideas on diet (haven't researched them myself yet, so cannot confirm, but may be worth the review).
thanks Libby :)
@@A_Psych_Nurse you can sign up for her email list too. Gut health is extremely important, I have found and studies have also shown. Glyphosates in commercial consumer foods are killing the shikimate pathways in our gut microbiome. That is why I eat 100% organic foods much of which I grow myself. Exercise in nature is so good for mental health too. And gardening is a good starting place to getting exercise, nature, fresh organic foods, and lovely flowers too. As well, joining gardening and food foraging groups that take walks in the forest looking for wild foods, is great for mental health. You can find these groups if you search facebook, and also those "meetup" groups. I personally think that gardening and radically healthy foods saved my life. I have been drug free for 2 years now after being drugged extensively and for a long period. Nothing is better than being drug free for me.
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Hello,
Doctor diagnosed my father with dementia and prescribed medication including antipsychotic. The medication caused severe adverse effects and washed the memory in 7 days. My father has forgot ways, even the home address. His memory has washed away. He even doesn't know his family members names now. He starts screaming odd things if we take him somewhere outside of the house. This is really very frustrating. Please, is there anyway to reverse the adverse effects. I want my father in the previous position.
Thank you so much for this information. My son is taking antipsychotic medication and he doesn't want to take it anymore, but what is the alternative. We are told he can't stop it right away and if we take it out slowly, will that not put him in psychosis again? Is there a more natural way to heal? My son is 16 and is dianozed with schizophrenia less than a year ago and is taking 2 medications. Haloperidol 5mg and Valproate semisodium 500mg. What better options are there?
While on these dopamine BLOCKING drug's, preventing the brain's regulation of this dopamine to go where it wants &needs to go, your brain, now signaling no dopamine getting where it expects it to be, starts producing MASSIVE amounts of dopamine in effort to compensate. So, when coming off of these drug's your brain is NOW with this over Abundance of dopamine that, prior to taking these drug's, was already thought responsible for symptoms being experienced, the massive excess of dopamine your brain produced in damage control mode- is WHY drugged patient's on these meds will then experience more extreme & even worse episode of psychosis. Results following might be hospitalization, increasing dosages or adding new drug's ontop of existing. THIS is what happens and THIS is why or How they make arguments for WHY one needs to remain w drug's as (bullshit) proof that they were working.
ALTERNATIVE'S:
Get Help dealing w the trauma's unresolved that are likely causing your child's mental health issue's. Brain injuries can also do this. But drugging your child's still developing brain w these Black Boxed warning drug's( I'll bet your doctor never even warned or informed) is impho, extremely problematic. CONNECT w National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI). This is an excellent resource to help get you connected with the right ppl to support you with what your struggling.
How was he diagnosed with schizophrenia at sixteen? I’d be very surprised if he has it even to begin with. I would recommend to do some research as vitamins can help whilst coming off but I’d imagine long term he needs to heal from his traumas. Exercise, good food and good people. That’s it no life-altering drugs! Good luck
Takk!
The akathesia from risperidone and amisulpride was unbearable. Once I stopped it went away, now I lay in bed feeling so much joy that I don't have the urge to constantly have to walk around.
I don't know if you've ever been in psychosis, it's a lot easier being numb than having a TV talk to you
this is fair, thx for sharing Vincent--I think it's very situational for patience and yes, depending on the hallucinations, sometimes numb IS better
@@A_Psych_Nursebut if you also think about it there are microbiological changes that can happen from things we still don't even know about to this day that could attribute to a lot of the reasonings for psychosis, and those are things that have yet to be discovered and may never be discovered so that's why I look at things from a third person's perspective❤
What about those of us that are constantly over stimulated? I don’t know what’s worse, the medicine or the disease symptoms.
I have the same doubts… but since Im a mother of 3, I cannot “pay to see “ what would it be without medications…
I have severe adhd and autism level 1 of suport…
It scares me that I take two antipsychotics before sleeping… take off those two it’s also dangerous and very unpleasant…
One got me very depressed and suicidal when I tried to quit… the other gave me lots of nausea and dizzyness really hard to bare… but at least I got to reduce both to really short doses❤
But watching videos like this makes me feel bad for needing them…
As I said… with 3 kids I cannot risk not being functional or going through the withdrawals and not being able to deal with all my mom and life dutties… they need me…
I also have sensorial disorders and anxiety…😢
I forgot to tell, the overstimulation is a big deal for me. I cannot deal with everyday noises with out my loop earplugs…
my psychiatrist, knowing i’m epileptic, had me on quetiapine followed by abilify. i had seizures nearly daily and often multiple times a day. i gained about 10-15 lbs and haven’t stopped experiencing some of the side effects even after a few months off of them. worst time ever, i’ll never recommend anti psychs.
What about for a schizophrenic? Do you still say get off the antipsychotics?
Where do I find records on successful litigation against any maker of an anti-psychotropic medication in criminal court? These would be a great find for my current research interests.
Looking up the companies and then looking up the cases individually would be quite a task that one reference to this source could eliminate.
Thanks for the video. This was a good one.
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Ok...agreed. So what are the alternatives. Help please.
Jesus
Really?
I have been on antipsychotics since my first hospitalization for anorexia nervosa when I was 13, I am 19 now, and still on antipsychotics. I was told I would not be discharged unless I began medications. I was coerced into taking them against my own will. I was started on risperidone , my period stopped for about two years and my body stopped producing estrogen, but that also had to do with being severely underweight, but then there was the lactation. I was switched to olanzapine on my 5th hospital admission , terrified of the weight gain, but thankfully I did not experience that side effect, and it was still a struggle to get me to a healthy weight. Though It zombified me making me so exhausted and lethargic, I would fall asleep on the school bus and in class and my teachers were really concerned. But then the dose was increased when I was around 16-17 and it caused fluid retention especially in my face and I looked so bloated, it was awful. With the dose lowered to 5 mg which I’m currently on the swelling no longer happens but I have been having troubles with movement, I already have movement problems because of my FND but gradually I have been getting new involuntary movements such as grimacing and chewing movements and my fingers moving like I’m playing piano and toes curling in and out, and waving my arms without meaning to and even neck twisting and head nodding. I’m always restless and can rarely sit still. I want to tell my doctor but I’m afraid she’ll say it’s just my FND and keep me on these meds. I want to get off, for years I begged my psychiatrist to take me off these meds telling him that I feel like something is off and they’re not helping and never have. these medications were supposed to help my thoughts be less ridged , that never happened, it only made me lethargic and easy to control. My psychiatrist never took me off these meds. I have also been on antidepressants since 2020 and those probably are affecting me negatively too.
Oh wow...I have a similar story. The damage is sadly big....
Why are you on the drugs tho at such a young age? Childhood trauma? Abuse?
I was on anti psychotics for about 1 week before i realised i gotta start healing myself. 1 year in and im better.
Some say that it is used for control
how do you propose you treat someone suffering from schizophrenia?
I have another video covering this but sometimes you can do nothing and let the condition run its course other times you can try an antipsychotic with the hopes of tapering down eventually. :)
Other times I don't think it really needs treatment just a supportive environment.
So how do you get someone out of a drug induced psycosis?
At one of my lowest points, I tried several "downer"s. It was horrible. Did nothing to make annoyance easier to stand and could not wake up in morning. That was Seroquel. Somebody mentioned some call it jail house heroin. Tapered off and done with all of them. I went back to taking cat naps. I am retired now, wth do I care? Flat mood. Yuck. I'll never forget Richard Gere's line in Mr. Jones: Walking on the peaked roof he said. "The highs are the only thing that gets me thru the lows". So true. Tee in N.M.
My son doesn't have constipation he has diarhea...he doesn't mind the blood work (clozepine) sons weight has remained very stable on clozepine (he did gain some weight on zyprexa) on no meds son also quit eating..was down to 70something lbs. Antipsychotics and antidepressants have saved my son. Now I also work in a psych unit.
Awesome!
Does therapy even work to treat schizophrenia? I don't see that there are many other options other than antipsychotics. Are you sure that the antipsychotic cause frontal lobe damage? I thought it was the schizophrenia itself. Clozapine might have a lot of terrible side effects, but without it, someone close to me would either be dead or in a mental hospital. Zyprexa made me fat, but it also kept me relatively sane. I just don't see what our options are.
Lots of hardwork, a part time job, college or some form of education if not in a part time job, sometimes you e en just get use to the hallucinations because the body adapts and it becomes normal instead I'd what the voices are saying try ans see a different perspective of it rather than a negative if they say something like kill yourself just think this will pass its just an intrusive thought, try searching will hall, Eleanor longden, the medication are good for short term and even little doses but my doctors told me it's everything that helps people to recover like having hobbies, having friends. It's hard I'm still in the process of recovery but I know I will get better because I believe in myself. I'm only on anti depressants at the moment, run everyday, talk to people, been having a lot of quiet moments it's a start.
There a tons of people off medication like sir John nash.
I had psychotic depression from bipolar disorder and it did help me to go on and antipsychotic caplyta to help pull me out of that depression but I do try to use natural vitamins and diet and exercise to treat the bipolar disorder I've had eight years inb between major psychotic episodes.
Excellent video, they are very dangerous. I'm glad you have the courage to speak out and tell the blunt truth. Peter's book is excellent, I showed it to my psychaitrist when I got detained, needless to say he avoided me lol. These products have no place in healthcare, the benefits can never outweigh the risks. Invega has me in a prolonged chemical straight jacket. They tested invega on rats and they all died from cancerous tumours. Awful stuff.
Hello, how long were you on invega? If you are off it, how long have you been off it? Are you improving? Any withdrawals? I was on it for just under four months and been off for a month and my life is a living nightmare
@@MAC-xe8pk my sleep is messed up, I pretty much go without. This in turn effects my memory. Impossible to lose weight.
My sleep was already messed up I was already messed up then one day things got better then worse then some idiot left these on
The benefits absolutely outweigh the risks for myself and many others with similar psychiatric history as me
Like WTH did they approve this poison for use
Antipsychotics aren't "sedation" they are elimination, an elimination of abilities related to the frontal lobe.
They are an assault on the patient, a violent battery permanently damaging the brain and having the consequence/treatment and desired effects of limiting the patient's Mental and physical abilities which makes the patient easier to maintain/contain or control.
This is a practice dating all the way back to Bethlehem/bedlam with lobotomy destroying the same parts of the frontal lobe that today's anti-psychotropics do. They are just the latest version of this technique that was recently primarily done through electrocution in what they would call "electroshock therapy". Where electroshock would would use electricity to burn up the fibers connecting neural pathways, psychotropics burn them up chemically and lobotomy would straight up remove them physically/surgically.
This practice should be considered a litmus test for a society's decay. If you allow them to treat your poor like this then they will eventually treat you and yours the same.
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It’s disgusting. I can’t get into my story right now but please don’t forget about neuroplasticity. I’m withdrawing from a few drugs right now and have been doing a lot of research the last few months. I have hope after being polydrugged for so long, and at crazy high doses for my diagnosis. I’m down to 6mg Abilify from 20. And down to 200mg Effexor XR give or take from 300.
What he doesn’t mention is that some antipsychotics (eg clozapine) can cause psychosis in someone who has never previously been psychotic. Trust me I know first hand. I also seem to have permanent physical side effects from one of the antipsychotics I was forced to take.
Is 5 years considered long terms use that could cause effects similar to a lobotomy as you explained? I have been taking zyprexa a little over 5 years now and just came to realize the dangers recently and began tapering off around 6 months ago. I'm trying to research to find out what damage has really or could be done in 5 years.
I can't say specifically a time frame for the lobotomizing effects, but I would say 3+ years of consistently taking a high dose might be a good guestimate (we'd have to look at the research to be surer). I also think there's a profound ability for the body/neurons to heal.
you can actually have noticeable permanent brain anatomy and or functional changes occur after one single neuroleptic dose. i am also living proof but many pub med papers investigate these facts.
@@JCRastafari yes I came across a paper (can't find it anymore) where healthy subjects took 1 dose of 5mg zyprexa and their blood work was thrown all out of wack (increase lipids/triglicyerides and other stuff i'm forgetting).
@@A_Psych_Nurse wonder which specific systems get damaged (methylation is something i would like to understand more in how it affects daily life) and the degrees at which repair and healing are not as possible... 🤔
I gained on average 90 lbs.
I've lost 75 + lbs. 8 times and once 100 lbs. in my life. I've done this 3 times in the past 10 years alone. I'm currently 90 lbs. over weight again. I really don't care to live. It's take the meds or be completely insane. I've been on clozaril with a ton of complications. I'm currently on zyprexa and I hate it. Mornings are very tough.
All of them is a poison!
Best way is sobriety.
I know that others on here see antipsychotics as being very bad. I see their point. I have been on an antipsychotic consistently for 10 years. I noticed when I first started taking it that it was like all the wild emotions I experienced were dampened. However, I'm more concerned that the voices people hear that have Schizophrenia are somehow people watching us and then punishing us for our behavior. Because the United States is not supposed to be a police state and people are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. If there is an intervention where someone's behavior is out of control, I suppose a group of people could justify harassing individuals until they change their behavior. But there is a thin line between behavior modification and slavery. Since history doesn't repeat itself but often rhymes I figure that slavery of the past may have simply taken another form. They say big brother is watching us and they get everyone on RUclips and other social media platforms so they can monitor them. It is like the 1984 movie... All I'm saying is that it is silly thinking that we live during an era where the bad things are all in the past. That perhaps there is something sinister going on. 😢
What about Abilify (aripiprazole)? I've been on 10mg for a year i think. I was on zyprexa before that and the weight gain was horrible
I get 400mg Aripiprazole a month and I have been on it for several years. I just hope that it doesn’t make me feel worse, because I don’t think my psychiatrist would take me off it, because I always seem to have a problem with my mental health if I miss an appointment for the medication. I have been on various antipsychotics for 40 years since I was a teenager. I hardly know what life is without being ill all the time. I am really worried that these medications are making me physically ill as I now have diabetes as well.
@@wee-subwilson1897 I've been on it for a year or 2 but I read somewhere that a severe side effect of abilify is diabetes. Then again I'm no medical professional
My mother in law was prescribed antipsychotic drug for a once in a year migraine, we had no idea until we found the half empty pill sheet in her drawer. She is suffering big time from multiple neurotoxic meds she never needed, no tests or review of meds in 3 decades.
Does vraylar count in this category? What are your thoughts on this medication?
yes, and my thoughts on Vryalar are the same for all the antipsychotics (same general side effects)
Plus, if you have low self esteem with don’t care about yourself, you’ll be more vulnerable to giving them a try. Loneliness and inability to change.
Great video. I have a mild form of tardive dyskinesia. It's pretty bad.
Great video. I am also an admirer of Dr. Breggin. These medications are also known to cause brain atrophy with long term use. I can't help but think that for the patients who do improve with medication that they need not be taken long term.
I'm on invega sustenna and I have a tremor in my chin and lower jaw.
That is Tardive Dyskinesia !!! Try to ween off that toxic drug !! I have permanent Tardive Dyskinesia..it is hell.
Great video. I'm now trying to come off of the medications for schizoaffective disorder. The blunted affect is the worst side effect for me. I've been off the injection for nearly 2 weeks and I feel my mental faculties coming back very slowly
Hi, thanks for sharing your story. My son, 16 now, was diagnosed with schizophrenia at 15 and is now with 2 types of medication. He doesn't want to take his medicine anymore but we are told it is dangerous. Are you being guided by someone to help you remove the medication? Are you replacing it with something else? Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide.
@@CRVGinc No worries. 16 is very early for schizophrenia so it may be a bit different for him. Im in my late 20’s. Unfortunately, no. I’m not being helped to come off them whatsoever. My Dr thinks otherwise and doesn’t listen to my pleas when I tell her the side effects are worse. I am coming off them altogether and I’m trying to go medication free. I dont want it in my life any more. Medication did reduce some of the symptoms for me and although I am trying to come off them, I would say at his young age, staying on the medication would be his best bet at living a normal life and not allowing the illness to exacerbate. Maybe when he’s a bit more mature, he can decide. My honest opinion is that at such a young age, the medication is probably keeping his illness at bay. All the best
@@franktherabbit42 Thank you for your advise, I really appreciate it.
@@CRVGinc Yeah thats not a problem. All the best 👍
@@franktherabbit42how are you feeling now ?
One thing that helped me with panic attacks is fish oil capsules.
I know people blame the manufacturers a lot but if you really think about it the doctors also know about this stuff whether they admit it or not they are partially to blame too at least the ones that prescribe it to people without letting them know the side effects or the history of the medication those ones are blame worthy to
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Seems like many of these symptoms are from taking too high of a dosage of these medications. I am schizoaffective and know that if I do not take these medications I will not feel well and my life will fall apart. I know someone who is bipolar and does not take meds and is life is a disaster and he abuses drugs and alcohol to cope. I do not think this is very responsible to suggest that there is no one who needs to take these medications. I take Saphris and Viibryd and live a normal life (own a home, have had the same good job for a very long time,) etc
If I said "no one needs to take these medications" then I was wrong. I don't believe that necessarily, and think there are people who benefit from them. Generally, I do think it's a good idea to periodically attempt to taper down very gradually with the idea of either getting of the meds entirely or making sure you've found the smallest/effective dose possible :). Thanks for the comment.
I am switching from lurasidone to generic geodon in the next few days. Last year I had 6 ect treatments that didn't help either. I cry a lot because I'm so scared. Idon't know what to do anymore. I have osteoarthritis and cervical damage and the severe pain makes me very depressed in itself. It seems like I'm on a rollercoaster ride I cannot get off of. What are the alternatives 😢