The Sad State of Punk Fashion

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024

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  • @danframpt0n
    @danframpt0n  6 месяцев назад +30

    hey punkers, thanks for watching.

    • @anarchords1905
      @anarchords1905 6 месяцев назад

      Good morning, lad. Today I shall be going up the town wearing (bottom - top) :
      24-hole cherry-red paten Docs,
      liquid latex,
      a hat.

    • @michellebonner18
      @michellebonner18 6 месяцев назад +1

      Hey, Dan! ~How 'bout a Big, fat tusk through the septum and a left nipple piercing?!. 😎☺

    • @aotctd
      @aotctd 3 месяца назад

      What the fvck have you got to do with Punk ?

  • @willy_b_coyote
    @willy_b_coyote 6 месяцев назад +68

    Clothes don’t make the man. If you want to dress up in studded leather jackets, doc martens, and so on, then DO IT. But if you want to just wear converse, a t shirt, and jeans, that’s perfectly fine too.
    Wear what you want, how you want, and don’t let ANYONE tell you otherwise.

    • @MacGuffinExMachina
      @MacGuffinExMachina 6 месяцев назад +3

      I always switch up my look depending on my mood and how introverted or extroverted I feel. This pfp is a year old, but I have a more normal haircut now. Dressnin basic stuff. Vans, jeans, and tees. Sometimes i go more goth. As a teen, I felt like I was being a poseur to go buffet style on subculture, but it's more poseurish to try to go against what you wanna do.

    • @MacGuffinExMachina
      @MacGuffinExMachina 6 месяцев назад

      Wish I could edit my typos.

    • @cimmeriakurt
      @cimmeriakurt 6 месяцев назад

      Hey Dan, let's face it Sid Vicious had the best PUNK look. And that's the TRUE look. The CRAP you listen to sucks. You better adopt the Sid VICIOUS look so you can look the opposite of your nemesis FIN MCKENTY!! What do u say? #GETSOME

    • @free-the-whales
      @free-the-whales 6 месяцев назад +1

      I dress like a normie and go to shows. I enjoy dressing up, however.

    • @midnightwitch606
      @midnightwitch606 5 месяцев назад +1

      Best comment here, punk is literally wear what the heck you want

  • @coolea
    @coolea 6 месяцев назад +4

    It's cooh-lee-ah. Much love

  • @free-the-whales
    @free-the-whales 6 месяцев назад

    At 0:12 I thought they were gonna call you a hipster haha

  • @electronlibre7356
    @electronlibre7356 15 дней назад

    Danfram…Être punk et s’afficher comme tel permettait dans les 80 de te reconnaître au milieu des gens lamda comme toi,être tatouer sur les mains ou le visage te poussait au ban de la société alors que maintenant des type comme toi se font tatouer sur les doigts et peuvent travailler dans une entreprise,les temps changes et on ne peux pas comparer les look aux travers des décennies,je n’ai pas tout compris à tes critiques mais si le punk n’avait pas été aussi une manière de se coiffer il serait peux être oublié comme le grunge,qui parle du grunge pas toi pourtant tu as un look de grunge ,il n’y a rien d’exitant dans le look grunge avec un baggie,une chemise claire et des basquettes ,les punkettes on un look sexy tes copines porte des habit ultra large asexués ,bon je te laisse à tes critiques j’ai fais la mienne

  • @terminaldeity
    @terminaldeity 6 месяцев назад +30

    A big reason I was drawn to hardcore was that everyone wore normal ass clothes. Dudes wearing collared button down shirts going hard in the pit was so badass to 14 year old me.

    • @off6848
      @off6848 6 месяцев назад +7

      I once went to a metal show in red basketball shorts and a white t shirt and immediately got mean mugged by everyone in the pit lol

    • @Chilloutandwatchanime
      @Chilloutandwatchanime 4 месяца назад

      @@off6848I went to a local death metal show in a anime baseball Jersey and a regurgitation shirt on mind you im a known local in the scene didn’t get mean mugged at all guess your scene is just different lol

    • @off6848
      @off6848 4 месяца назад

      @@Chilloutandwatchanime it was Thou x Cloud Rat

  • @kabukimanindahouse
    @kabukimanindahouse 6 месяцев назад +16

    dressed like a lars frederiksen clone from 14 up until 28 or something. then in 2016 i grew my hair out to my navel, started wearing comfy, but colorful clothes, just doing whatever i like and ironically became more punk, than the guy wearing two studded belts, a bleach-splattered vest and spiked up bleached hair ever was. i started to realize, that i'm just conforming to a uniform and that every regular teen has green hair, tats and piercings anyway. criticize me, sure. i mean, still like the music and scene, but i'd rather look like i do now and feel like myself, instead of trying to be gbh. am 36 now.

    • @cimmeriakurt
      @cimmeriakurt 6 месяцев назад +2

      Hey Dan, let's face it Sid Vicious had the best PUNK look. And that's the TRUE look. The CRAP you listen to sucks. You better adopt the Sid VICIOUS look so you can look the opposite of your nemesis FIN MCKENTY!! What do u say? #GETSOME

  • @aaronruiz2896
    @aaronruiz2896 6 месяцев назад +16

    Being punk is a state of mind .. not fashion. 😂

    • @SomeRandomPunk
      @SomeRandomPunk 6 месяцев назад

      👍

    • @cimmeriakurt
      @cimmeriakurt 6 месяцев назад +1

      Hey Dan, let's face it Sid Vicious had the best PUNK look. And that's the TRUE look. The CRAP you listen to sucks. You better adopt the Sid VICIOUS look so you can look the opposite of your nemesis FIN MCKENTY!! What do u say? #GETSOME

  • @noone26667
    @noone26667 6 месяцев назад +8

    Unfortunately I have a family to feed so I can’t look punk. My work clothes cover all my tattoos, though, so at least I have that.
    Edit: I also have a massive scar that runs down the center of my head to behind my ear so that’s pretty punk if brain surgery counts.

  • @eancurtis9333
    @eancurtis9333 6 месяцев назад +6

    We are all poseurs !

  • @lyudmilapavlichenko7551
    @lyudmilapavlichenko7551 6 месяцев назад +6

    Avril Lavine is the apex of punk fashion. If you wear anything else you're a poser.

    • @trashcanjam
      @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад

      Hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha *takes a breath* hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahaha…. Ha.

  • @virgilflowers9846
    @virgilflowers9846 6 месяцев назад +6

    I stopped dressing Street punk pretty quickly after I started when I was a teenager, when I started getting into hardcore and post hardcore, and most of those guys dressed pretty normal in the late 90s. As a musician it was more appealing to me to see those dudes go on stage and crush it wearing every-man clothes than the dudes that were dressing in 70s-80s punk fashion.

  • @Stuntman87
    @Stuntman87 6 месяцев назад +4

    😂 introducing Erin Micklow 😆 🤣

    • @EncoreASMR
      @EncoreASMR 6 месяцев назад +1

      She's a true punk. She puts everyone to shame 😂

  • @dayleebree3255
    @dayleebree3255 6 месяцев назад +3

    I’m not punk I’m grunge . So I’m told . Grunge is a marketing term to sell advertising same as punk .

  • @ShawnxEdge
    @ShawnxEdge 6 месяцев назад +4

    I dress like cross between a straight edge hardcore punk, skateboarder and lots of black. Oh and my studded belt I’ve had for 30 years that I can’t seem to ditch. The chain wallet sadly had to go.

  • @18JR78
    @18JR78 6 месяцев назад +4

    11:09 I guess Erin Micklow is the most punk by definition 😂
    ruclips.net/user/shortsoNVzBjxFwfc?si=SOgwDDFtJrMYMhBS

    • @standinsilence
      @standinsilence 6 месяцев назад +3

      Erin Micklow invented punk rock fashion. :-p

    • @18JR78
      @18JR78 6 месяцев назад +2

      🤣

    • @standinsilence
      @standinsilence 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@18JR78
      And you can be part of it by paying her to wear your bands t-shirt!! 💥

    • @18JR78
      @18JR78 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@standinsilence
      Punk Billboard 101.

    • @EncoreASMR
      @EncoreASMR 6 месяцев назад +1

      Real punk. She puts all punks to shame

  • @LocalMansOpinion
    @LocalMansOpinion 6 месяцев назад +4

    I was a troll/ borderline hater in the past but your content is getting a lot better

  • @spderman123
    @spderman123 6 месяцев назад +3

    i gave up on fashion lost interest like 10 years ago when yeezy messed up clothing lol now its dad fits

  • @danieljames7037
    @danieljames7037 3 месяца назад +1

    Meat Hammers, Mohawks, liberty spikes
    Spike leather jackets, bondage pants and etc. Was a statement of not being part of working class society or government.
    and skinheads are working class with pride
    It was pretty divided between the punks and skins, Back in 80's growing up. I am skinhead that love punk rock still today

  • @camerondodge2070
    @camerondodge2070 6 месяцев назад +6

    The funniest thing is how much glam metal stuff I was able to refashion into more punk looking attire, and vice versa.

    • @free-the-whales
      @free-the-whales 6 месяцев назад +1

      I was on pinterest recently and saw this term for the first time: glam punk 🤔 Y'all can name 3 Def Leppard songs?

    • @camerondodge2070
      @camerondodge2070 6 месяцев назад

      @@free-the-whales I usually think of glam punk as more Towers of London, but sure, I can. "When the Walls Come Tumbling Down", "Stagefright", and "Nine Lives".

  • @danieljames7037
    @danieljames7037 3 месяца назад +1

    The biggest sell out was the Sex Pistols with the fashion and one ablum produced.

  • @munkyzzb7504
    @munkyzzb7504 6 месяцев назад +3

    Fr I've never had to pay for clothes ppl just give you them if you will take them

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад +5

    Safety pins are the most punk

  • @WesleyGravolet
    @WesleyGravolet 3 месяца назад +1

    Being yourself is just about as punk rock as you can be...

  • @BlakeBlackstone
    @BlakeBlackstone 6 месяцев назад +2

    Damn bro you take forever to roll just one joint. I couldn't be in rotation with you.

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад +2

  • @EyeAteCod
    @EyeAteCod 6 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you! I love your channel but it has been hard to to take you seriously when you are dressed the way you are. Usually I just put on head phones and listen but when I catch a glimpse sometimes I have to shut the video off. Please start dressing more punk 🙏

    • @18JR78
      @18JR78 6 месяцев назад

      Sheep

  • @baileymoran8585
    @baileymoran8585 6 месяцев назад +2

    I exist in many alt genres. But I consider myself a punk among other things because I align with the music and the values of it… and here’s the thing. I am punk whether I’m in my metalhead fantasy nerd gear, my casual leggings and a tank top, my work clothes, or my DIY leather shit. I’m still a punk when I go to goth nights because I also enjoy some of that music and have friends in that scene. I’m still a punk when I’m naked in the shower. I’m still a punk if I were to wear a dinosaur costume for whatever fucking reason. If you look at the early days of ‘punk fashion’ in the late 70s/early 80s, you would see jeans and a hoodie with an old shirt and chucks or work boots. You would see a dude in a thrifted prom dress from the 60s and a pair of neon rain boots. You would see a woman with a shaved head, loud make up, and an oversized t shirt she turned into a dress, with no shoes at all. It was ‘wear whatever the fuck you want whether it was ridiculous, some neutral abscess if fashion, or something you made yourself just for the hell of it.’ Coffee table books just focused on the more wild examples. So each generation got a more extreme impression of what they had to look like to be a part of the scene but the bands at the core often didn’t even care about all that. They promoted dressing like you. Not giving a fuck what anyone else wore. Finding your own style, and expressing your values in whatever way you wanted, whether you spray painted a vulgar message on a jacket or you just dressed like you were only interested in covering your body enough for legal purposes, or if you wore neutral clothes and let your mouth do the talking. So wear whatever you want even if it changes every day.

  • @ShawnxEdge
    @ShawnxEdge 6 месяцев назад +2

    Took and aboot I had a feeling you were Canadian.

  • @OrbyEvil
    @OrbyEvil 6 месяцев назад +2

    Slop content 4 life.

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад +2

    I think you should get your septum done

  • @Jakethefartist
    @Jakethefartist 6 месяцев назад +1

    Birthday suit is punk af clothes are for corporate posers

    • @18JR78
      @18JR78 6 месяцев назад

      Show the assets

  • @food4drugs967
    @food4drugs967 6 месяцев назад +6

    “PuNk’s sHoUlD AlWaYS DResS PunK!!” Y’all know that’s fascism…right? Dress how you want. Everyone needs to know a “hXc Mike” IYKYK

    • @off6848
      @off6848 6 месяцев назад +1

      I think the idea is that the normie society is fascist because its homogenous its uniform of normalityand so dressing crazy subverts it. But I can agree that punk definitely has its uniforms which defeats the point

    • @18JR78
      @18JR78 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@off6848
      It’s always been a contradiction.

    • @off6848
      @off6848 6 месяцев назад

      @@18JR78 I think by the 90s they just concluded that queer culture was the only thing left

    • @cimmeriakurt
      @cimmeriakurt 6 месяцев назад

      Hey Dan, let's face it Sid Vicious had the best PUNK look. And that's the TRUE look. The CRAP you listen to sucks. You better adopt the Sid VICIOUS look so you can look the opposite of your nemesis FIN MCKENTY!! What do u say? #GETSOME

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hahaha spiky mess

  • @BlakeBlackstone
    @BlakeBlackstone 6 месяцев назад

    I'd argue that The New York Dolls werent even really punk in terms of music or style. More of predecessor to punk. They had the glam thing going way too hard.

  • @donkelly4718
    @donkelly4718 Месяц назад

    Actually, I'm less than 40 seconds in and I can see the punk. I mean, no liberty spikes, no death hawk, no studs, spikes, safety pins, etc., no crust punk battle jacket, no torn fishnets.....but there's a certain Anti-punk independence and nonconformative rebellious aesthetic that is very punk, as we saw it in its later "grunge" years.

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад +2

    That’s so crazy how it haut couture hahahaha

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад +2

  • @cimmeriakurt
    @cimmeriakurt 6 месяцев назад

    Hey Dan, let's face it Sid Vicious had the best PUNK look. And that's the TRUE look. The CRAP you listen to sucks. You better adopt the Sid VICIOUS look so you can look the opposite of your nemesis FIN MCKENTY!! What do u say? #GETSOME

  • @buddhull
    @buddhull 3 месяца назад

    I don’t know what about punk, but, to put it simply, I’ve just always worn my studded cod piece because I’m a Pisces… pretty self-explanatory

  • @clestis4591
    @clestis4591 5 месяцев назад

    "The lack of showers led to dreadlocks being a commonly seen thing." The anti-Blackness of it all. Locs are not a result of dirtiness. Locs are something that naturally happens for Black people who have curly and coily hair. They can be washed and are meant to be washed. People who have manicured locs, get them retwisted every so many weeks. White people do not have hair that can naturally loc and so when they try to achieve locs, their hair gets matted.

  • @NipplesOfDestiny
    @NipplesOfDestiny 5 месяцев назад

    I've been going to shows since I was 13 and Im 335 now, back in the day there was a time when you could meet another punk rocker who dressed like you and you both kneww you were instantly friends, like if you saw them standing in line at McDonalds or something you would walk away best friends going to a show later that night... at least that's why I dressed up. I dunno if that's still the same thing today because I'm old and all the punk rockers my age are now drug addicts, but that's why I did it back then...

  • @gadgettv2023
    @gadgettv2023 6 месяцев назад

    I’m not saying people who dress bland aren’t punk. But I am saying that you should actually enjoy what you’re wearing and not feel apathetic about it. That’s just old Native American wisdom right there.
    You don’t want to look like a “nothing man”

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад +1

    🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞

  • @westhesoikid
    @westhesoikid 6 месяцев назад

    I’d definitely rather keep watching your videos than that guy’s… Holy shit, that censoring is so annoying.

  • @k4kayfourk4
    @k4kayfourk4 6 месяцев назад +2

    Another banger from Daniel Framptoniel

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад +2

  • @jayritchie1532
    @jayritchie1532 6 месяцев назад

    I always pretty normal. T-shirt, jeans. No time for all that Halloween bullshit. Most of the best bands are the same.

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад +1

  • @danieljames7037
    @danieljames7037 3 месяца назад

    Knox Gelatin was Proper use of spiking your hair
    In the early days

  • @BlakeBlackstone
    @BlakeBlackstone 6 месяцев назад

    You look like Ian, which is pretty punk.

  • @bill8146
    @bill8146 6 месяцев назад +1

    Good video. Cat in the background was the star of the show.

  • @PedroVasconezart
    @PedroVasconezart 4 месяца назад

    do you remember the Insta Punk Kit page? It was awesome.

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад +2

    I’ve never dressed the part.

    • @18JR78
      @18JR78 6 месяцев назад

      That’s punk

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад +1

    Devil lock!!!! Not a devy lock. That sounds like a hockey bro explaining it

  • @theghostofblakephilbrook
    @theghostofblakephilbrook 6 месяцев назад

    You look like you listen to golf grunge with that yee yee ass beanie and flannel.

  • @trentx
    @trentx 6 месяцев назад +1

    RUTHLESS 😮‍💨 my style as a juvenile 💯

  • @godsfavoritechild47
    @godsfavoritechild47 6 месяцев назад

    i heard it’s punk to pee pee your pants

  • @EncoreASMR
    @EncoreASMR 6 месяцев назад

    Erin Micklow is so punk

  • @free-the-whales
    @free-the-whales 6 месяцев назад

    You would have a nostril ring

  • @putridabomination
    @putridabomination 6 месяцев назад +1

    Got that fantano drip

  • @shanesmith2853
    @shanesmith2853 6 месяцев назад +1

    Frampton looking fly af in the McDonald's camo. Wear what you love, love what you wear. That's punk! I've settled into more of a thrift shop drag look myself 🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞

    • @cimmeriakurt
      @cimmeriakurt 6 месяцев назад

      Hey Dan, let's face it Sid Vicious had the best PUNK look. And that's the TRUE look. The CRAP you listen to sucks. You better adopt the Sid VICIOUS look so you can look the opposite of your nemesis FIN MCKENTY!! What do u say? #GETSOME

  • @free-the-whales
    @free-the-whales 6 месяцев назад

    My two lady friends wore shorts and dresses in the pit at an august burns red show lmao. They were mad @ group think

    • @free-the-whales
      @free-the-whales 6 месяцев назад

      FYI they were normie ladies!! I was the one who dressed punk! We all shared musica together though

  • @CHR1SUND4Y
    @CHR1SUND4Y 5 месяцев назад

    #HotTopic is not punkrock!

  • @aotctd
    @aotctd 3 месяца назад

    LoL Imitation of how we grew up Like you also styled like how we grew up, that you have F V C K A L L to D O W I T H !

    • @danframpt0n
      @danframpt0n  3 месяца назад

      u forgot to take your dose this morning, sweety.

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад +1

    Gotta say I love the intro so much!

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад +1

    Almost at 13k followers wooohooooo

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад +1

    A quick cheek piercing too

  • @joshsagar666
    @joshsagar666 6 месяцев назад +2

    Love your videos, but you do look like you love to cry while listening to Weezer.

    • @trashcanjam
      @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад

      That’s mean

    • @18JR78
      @18JR78 6 месяцев назад

      Hahahha.
      Btw it’s funny how punks complain about society judging based on looks but always judge others that don’t look the same. Punk is an oxymoron.

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад +1

    Coolea cheese! Mmmmmm

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam 6 месяцев назад +1

    10:00 hahahahqhahaha

  • @anarchords1905
    @anarchords1905 6 месяцев назад

    🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞

  • @megmcguigan3857
    @megmcguigan3857 5 месяцев назад

    I'm 53 and have been into both goth and punk music since 1986. I still have an undercut and regularly dye my now white hair blue. Love the video. Keep on keeping on.

  • @scalpfarmer8289
    @scalpfarmer8289 6 месяцев назад

    13:11

  • @p0ison_0ak33
    @p0ison_0ak33 6 месяцев назад

    Red, blue, yellow...and i see some green 🍃💨🫶 btw i have glasses too and I listen to punk. I dress in whatever i feel comfortable in. I can listen to NOFX, then go harder like lamb of god! i love pop punk, grew up on blink-182 and Green Day. But also listen to Britney Spears and have 3/4 gauge ears and an 8 gauge septum so I guess I'm confused af 😂

  • @davesleyer9393
    @davesleyer9393 6 месяцев назад

    If punk started with the Damned you could dress as a vampire. Or maybe a tutu and beret combo.

  • @mrhappy7654
    @mrhappy7654 6 месяцев назад

    LOVEEE the longer vids!! 🤗 Side of the lip ring is for you, dude! Not the septum, never the septum 🥞

  • @gadgettv2023
    @gadgettv2023 6 месяцев назад

    7:50 No we just need excitement and expression in general. Punk or not.

  • @onesteptodeath6426
    @onesteptodeath6426 6 месяцев назад

    I don't get peircings, fear of having em ripped out in a pit, tho I gauged my ears

  • @ShawnxEdge
    @ShawnxEdge 6 месяцев назад

    I wasn’t expecting the bald head I gotta admit.

  • @chesspunk489
    @chesspunk489 6 месяцев назад +1

    There is nothing wrong with dressing punk. It's like a way of honoring tradition. There is also nothing wrong with not dressing punk.

  • @jaygutierrez9523
    @jaygutierrez9523 6 месяцев назад

    That was a awsome vid! 🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞

  • @circleboy8563
    @circleboy8563 6 месяцев назад +1

    you should get a lip ring and nose piercing!!!

  • @braddrummond9500
    @braddrummond9500 6 месяцев назад

    "Symbol of hate"

  • @stewart950
    @stewart950 6 месяцев назад +1

    nice vid bro

  • @HoboMerlin
    @HoboMerlin 6 месяцев назад

    Pierce the Grundle.

  • @Roland-v4x
    @Roland-v4x 6 месяцев назад +1

    Im a mixed bag of fashion from listening to punk and hip hop and skating in the 90s/2000s

  • @the_real_tay_loud2072
    @the_real_tay_loud2072 6 месяцев назад

    Dan guys our age are pretty much OGs at this point we done our time. It’s like when you get to a certain age you stop actively gang bangin on the street as you already put in work for the squad. Thank you for not actually quitting Dan Frampton🫡💯

  • @ThinkerOnTheBus
    @ThinkerOnTheBus 6 месяцев назад +1

    I've been listening to, purchasing music, and attending gigs since 1984, and to this day I have never owned a proper uniform, nor did I possess an appropriate costume. The biggest punk accoutrement I would ever don was my attitude. I didn't need to be recognized by others as being punk rock. I needed no such recognition, nor confirmation that I was punk . . . or punk enough. I surely borrowed a few stylings of various punk rock looks here and there, such as a flannel, but unlike many where it is always fashion, and never function, for me it was function. The function became the fashion for me, and in the case of a flannel, it was the perfect article of clothing to use during those transitional phases between summer and winter and back again, in order to stay warm enough, or cool enough while skating, or performing a whole variety of activities. If it got too warm, simply remove the flannel, and tie the sleeves around your waist. Throw in the t-shirt of some band I had seen recently, and also managed to acquire one of their t-shirts somehow, and which none of my frenemies managed to steal from me yet, and there you would have about the greatest extent of any punk outfit I had ever owned, or worn. I had no leather jacket (How many punks did you ever know who could afford a leather jacket???), no flight jacket, no red suspenders, no Dr. Martens, no chained wallet, no combat boots, no safety pin anything, no patchworked jeans, nor any patch adorned jean jacket. I never bought into the whole fashion BS, or the need to conform to a specific look. I had always believed that one of the true major tenets of punk rock was individualism, and nonconformity, not to mention possessing a DIY attitude, and way of life, with no concern for tradition or for established systems, nor the opinions which others held of me. That is why my biggest punk accoutrement was my attitude . . . because I never gave two $h175 what anybody else thought about me. I would never give such a meaningless thing, such as what others thought about me, any power over me . . . for if I were to be concerned about what others are thinking about me, then I forfeit power and control over to that thing, for I am allowing it to affect me on some level, and if it is affecting me, then it has some power over me, but I have the choice not to permit it to possess such power. Not conforming to any system, or pre-established social order, not giving a $h17 about what others thought, or more specifically, not allowing the actions or thoughts of other people to have any effect upon me, and doing things my way I had always thought was punk enough. I thought I was punk as ƒ[_]ck!!!!
    However, hanging outside a venue in Chicago, one typically chilly night, waiting to see fIREHOSE, Mike Watt walk past my friend, and I, heading inside of the venue, and without losing the pace of his stride, he looked over at me, and proclaimed, in a nonchalant, yet complimentary manner, "Nice flannel." I can only assume that for Mike, it was not a single article of some uniform or costume, but was about functionality.