I went to the Boeing factory in Everett in January 2020 just before Covid pandemic hit. It was amazing to see how the planes were made and on the tour they talked about 747 freighters, 777x, etc but nothing about the 737 because of the Max incidents. :)
You got that backwards dude, the Renton Factory existed decades before the Everett Plant broke ground. The 707 was built in Renton, the Everett Factory was originally built for the 747,
The merger, when McDonnell douglas bought boeing, with Boeing's money. Running the company like McD into the ground. They treat employees, customer's, suppliers like shit. They give bonuses to their series E managers, for imaginary goals by managers unaware they build airplanes. Go for zero, the threat to anyone getting hurt in their work safety program. Too bad the 737 max crasher suicide plane didn't have a go go zero plan. We would only be imagining the passengers dead on a chart in their world. They need to clean house at the top, all senior and executive managers need to be walked out. Start new. Failing this, they will continue to fail.
@Anonymous Anonymous I like how you say "We're the better of only two large aerospace companies." First at least you admitted you are biased by using "we" in association with Boeing. Second, that's the problem. Consolidation. Boeing used to be a great company. Now its falling apart. Its space division got beat to the ISS by a company that built their first rocket a decade ago despite having a head start, decades of experience, and being paid twice as much. Boeing's planes are crashing themselves into the ground. I wish I never had to get on another Boeing jet again. One thing you are right about though, despite failing, Boeing isn't going anywhere. At this point they are too big to fail and too important to our national security (again due to consolidation). So despite how horrible the company is being run we are stuck with them. And that is not a comforting thought. Boeing is a cautionary tale about uncontrolled mergers and reduced competition.
I live getting chances to visit the plants. There is a hotel basically on the grounds of the Everett operation. You can walk across to their small museum and stand on the deck to see all the planes.
Right? You can move, but if your quality goes down, well, screw you too. This is like how the big three left Detroit for Mexico, but quality went pshhhh. But those are personal vehicles. These are airplanes. Not in same ball park. Not even close.
@@ABCantonese I grew up in Detroit, and was acquainted for a number of years with the now-deceased national director of customer relations at Pontiac, who privately admitted to me that he wasn't sure his boss Roger Smith knew what he was doing; so the problems in Detroit started long before any production relocation.
The situation is so bad I know of 3 major airlines who won't take planes from the Charleston factory. It's actually in their purchase contracts. How is this going play out?
Coby, we’re all here because you have a really information dense yet comprehensible approach to all your videos. Your videos are as long as they need to be, no longer. So I click your content as soon as I see it because I learn something new each time.
That’s so cool that you were inspired to create this channel after visiting the Everett factory. I visited for the first time a couple years ago (after talking about doing it for a couple of decades). It’s hard to describe to people the massive scale of that place. It is awesome!
We were there when the everett plant was built.My dad was the major subcontracts manager for the 747. I was a preflight mechanic (PAN AM #7)at Boeing field in Seattle.Sad about Seattles problems it all started when they moved Managment to Chicago Dad said "dad said the company was taken over by politics.
This is truly sad for me to see. My grandfather served in the military and then worked in the Boeing Everett factory. He is now retired, but it is still so sad for me to see this happen. I always have and probably will associate Boeing with the iconic Everett factory. I remember visiting the factory some summers ago. I believe it was called the “Museum of Flight Tour” and it was truly inspirational like you said. So inspirational in fact, that I decided I wanted to pursue my goal of becoming a pilot. Truly a magical place.
My Father was a Top Engineer for Boeing and designed the entire electrical system for the Minuteman Missile Silos, the Everett hangar, and buildings, along with the Auburn buildings just to name a few, plus helped design critical systems on the Boeing military Hydrofoil Tucumcari, a gunship that would do 50mph above the waves on hydrofoils, that still holds records today and Venezuela uses it for chasing drug runners. 32 Long years of dedicated service, overtime, etc. And at his retirement, they gave him a measly pension and a small wood desk clock that said Made in China.......Our neighbor worked for the railroad, home every night and weekends, and retired with 3 times the pension...... Not Impressed with the way Boeing rewards their top men.....
@@timmorris3056 Yes, I completely agree. My grandfather received a Boeing “Next 100 Years” plaque for his retirement, that I’m pretty sure was made in China as well. Most of his retirement benefits are from the military.
@@cobyexplanes Boeing got too much of the "diversity hire", that is why the quality issues...they simply are unable to pay that much attention to details...Airbus is way ahead in many regards by now...
As a professional aircraft mechanic and an Everett native who now lives in Germany, this touched my heart. Great work man. My heart breaks that we're losing out on a lot and I hope when the world gets back to normal, my old home can keep its mainstay.
I worked at Everett for 7 months 4 years ago. I loved watching the dreamlifters come and go. The 787 will be missed in Washington, but their departure was no surprise given the rocky relation with labor. Great video!
PNW unions are pretty difficult to work with across all industries.... Maybe no Philadelphia bad, but certainly in the bottom quartile nationwide... Cost of living in the area along with increasing state and local regulations really justifies Boeing to diversify laa or market exposure.... Though that is not to say Charleston was the best choice with a total lack of aerospace/aviation history
I worked at everett factory for a bit. The place is enormous. You can walk 15 minutes in a straight line without stopping and only be a bit over half way
I think i'm one of the newest subsribers to your channel (a 737 video appears in my recomendations) and you explain every situation very clear and to make everyone understand what you are talking about. I don't know if here are more people from Mexico, but now you hace one!😁
Proud to be one of the 49K subscribers. You produce fantastical informative, well researched and interesting videos. This one was particularly great as you showed all sides and reasons of Boeings move of the 787 production line to S.C. Congrats on the channel, onwards and upwards (pardon the pun) and so glad you have your face on a mug! (even if it doesn't have eyes :-p)
Yes! Seeing the Dreamlifters and the 747 line was awesome. It's been the largest building in the world by volume since it was built in the 1960s. That being said, I completely understand why Boeing is wanting out.
Been there twice. First time was when the 787 was having birthing pains and there were cubicles set up next to the assembly line for the engineers. Second time there the cubicles were gone.
@@cb2000a Your first visit sounds about the same as my first visit to Everett in February 2008. I thought it was interesting that they had a cubical farm right on the production floor next to the prototype.
Really like all of your content Colby and have enjoyed seeing the progression/growth over the past year or so. I’ve shared your videos with both aviation enthusiasts and other common folk (lol) and they’re enjoyed by all! Cheers.
I vistited the Airbus Factory in Hamburg Germany two years ago. Amazing experience, state of the art factory, located on the bank of the mighty river Elbe
When I was 10, I went on a huge across-the-country road trip with my grandparents. This was also the same time I was getting really interested into planes. We went through the southern states getting to California, going through Route 66 along the way, visiting many air museums and other places, then heading up to the Pacific Northwest. We stopped in Washington for a while and I didn't really know what we'd be doing there. My grandparents surprised me by taking me to the Future of Flight Aviation Center in Everett where the factory was. I explored the center and stuff before we went on the tour. It was beautiful to see the Dreamlifter sitting out there and pass by it and to see the giant hangar doors with the woman on the side (which I found out was a photo from a German/Swiss cookie commercial). I didn't see the 747 line, but I got to see the 777 and the 787 line and it was so beautiful. I looked at it all in awe. I knew that I was really interested in planes, but I think that's what cemented my love for aviation and made me want to work for Boeing. It was such an impactful moment for me. Come to 2020, I'm going for a degree in aerospace at UCF and I still have loved planes since that moment in 2010. I hope that I can work for Boeing in the future (I wouldn't mind working for NASA either). I know it kind of stinks what Boeing is doing now, but I still want to fulfill my dreams to design airplanes and I think Boeing would be a great place to work. Maybe I could also help in making a difference at the company (I doubt it, but it would be nice if I could).
I was in the Boeing factory in Everett as a child when it was being built, the first two 747s were being assembled and the factory floor wasn’t fully finished being poured, my dad was a supervisor on the first 747s. The first 707s, and he started at Boeing at Plant 2 in Seattle on B-52 #11
@@derekhieb7458 well technically, Boeing bought MD. But MD executives staged an internal coup. And the results have manifested as the poor quality and shifty business practices that had doomed MD previously.
One might call this the Harry Stonecipher affect. He was responsible for Boeing's "Integration is our core strength" initiative which lead to the extended delays of the 787 program per se. I could go on but this is the primary issue IMHO.
Terrific video! Yes! I have been to Everett back in 2000. Went on a sorta random trip out west to Seattle and while there I made it a point to rent a car and drive up and see the plant. I was amazed at size of the building and the aircraft in production. I made sure to hit the Boeing store on the way out. I was a kid in a candy store in that place! I wanted one of each of the desktop models. Looking back i should have pickup up a 747 desktop model with them retiring. Instead I picked up a f/A 18 hornet blue angles desktop model and several Boeing t-shirts. Many still new to this day!
I was fortunate to be able to tour the Boeing Everett plant in the 60s when the very first 747s were being built. These were pre-production units. A family friend’s business was a vendor and got us special acess. I vividly remember a roomfull of engineers/draftsmen, doing drafting by hand, working on a problem with vibration in the flaps. We were also allowed on a 747 pre-production unit being built that was far from finished....a bare interior with wires hanging out everywhere. I was in junior high then and I wish I could have appreciated then how special and unique that access was.
Sometimes I drive from my home in Wyoming to the Pacific Northwest on vacation and I always make it a point to drive past the Boeing plant, probably because I'm a massive Boeing fanboy.
If they don't get their quality control right, orders from legacy safety-minded or premium airlines (like QANTAS, Singapore Airlines, or ANA) will dry up.
Retired from Boeing Everett in 2017. Worked the 747, 767, 787, 737. It is bittersweet today. I could share so many stories...some great and many, well sad. Cheers!
@@mikelp72 You will never fix quality issues by paying people peanuts. In their efforts to go full out capitalism, Boeing is actually copying socialism and communism by underpaying their employees in South Carolina. Some international airlines have already refused to take delivery of new Boeing 787s out of South Carolina. So much for Boeing quality.
@@TheChiefEng ah yes, the definition of socialism: normal capitalist factories that have low wages. For real though, I'm not saying socialism is better than capitalism here, just pointing out that funny statement. The last thing I'd want to do is to get into a youtube comment section fight in an aviation video.
Honestly that sounds like a pretty good idea to add extra 737 production to Everett with the 787 leaving. Of course that is if demand picks back up after the airline industry makes a full recovery in the future.
Wow thanks for this video! My family is moving to Charleston, South Carolina too and I’ve been wanting more information about the factory there, since I thought Boeing was only in Everett, Washington. Thanks so much for this video!
Yes! I live in PNW and I've been to the Boeing plant in Everett a few times! My dad worked for Boeing in the 90's and so I got to see the roll out of the 777. It was very impressive. I also really loved "take your daughter to work day", that always came along with a tour of the facility. Some of my favorite memories with my dad. Cool channel btw, you got a new sub out if me! 👍😊✈️❤️
Boeing's blunder was moving to South Carolina rather, for instance, to the large tract of land they owned next to the airport in Huntsville, Alabama. When it comes to worker quality, there are two Souths. -One is the Black Belt, meaning land where cotton was grown and where slavery destroyed the work ethic. That culture remains, along with widespread poverty and an almost illiterate population. Columbus, SC was not only in the slave belt, it was a prominent center in slave trading. Boeing's quality problems there are hardly surprising. -The other lies in the Piedmont regions of the South, where hills and poor soil made cotton growing impractical. There the population was small independent farmers who knew they must work or starve. Huntsville is an example of the latter region, one that not only had little slavery, many of its inhabitants were anti-slavery and, like my ancestors from near there, called the Civil War, "a rich man's war, a poor man's fight." One business advisor described the difference well when he said, "If you want to locate in the South, look for hills. If you see hills, you'll find good workers." ---- Huntsville had other advantages, including a highly educated population, a 15,000 foot runway, excellent highway, rail and water connections. Aerospace firms would have been able to located on the Interstate between Huntsville and Mobile, where Airbus has a factory, making for a excellent supply chain. Ah, but there was one major negative factor for Boeing executives when it came to Huntsville. While the wages they'd need to pay in Huntsville would be less than those in Seattle, they'd be more than those in South Carolina. Boeing decided to go cheap and is reaping the consequences. Here's is what Boeing in Huntsville is already accomplishing. ---- "Key programs underway in Huntsville include Ground-based Midcourse Defense; PAC-3 Missile Seeker and other missile defense systems; the Minuteman III Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM); NASA’s heavy-lift Space Launch System; and the International Space Station. Boeing Research & Technology develops innovations that apply across commercial, defense and space programs. Boeing Global Services supports a variety of Department of Defense platforms, including Army programs in Alabama. Boeing assembles electronic boxes and circuit cards at the company’s Fabrication Center of Excellence in Huntsville. Huntsville is a growing region, with the highest ratio of engineers in the U.S. and a cost of living 10% below the national average. In 2019, U.S. News & World Report named Huntsville the #11 Best Place to Live in the country, and Kiplinger’s Personal Finance has named Huntsville one of the country’s Top 10 Cities for Raising Families." jobs.boeing.com/boeing-in-huntsville More and more, as a former Seattle resident I've come to believe that Boeing Corporate has decided to major in stupidity. With its focus on the pennies, decision after decision has been a blunder.
Im from SC. The whole slavery/work ethic thing is spot on. It's brings us down hard on the employment rate and education rate. It saddens me seeing the problems we have at the charleston plant. But it's all work ethic related. You got it 100% figured out.
While I appreciate your videos the comments about the unions are missing one import part. Unions play a very large roll in educating the workforce. They provide training and incentives to update training as new techniques are developed. This value isn't accounted for directly as this is deemed an "institutional knowledge" and cannot be quantified in direct costs/benefits to the employer. So while the direct costs to Boeing may be higher in cost per hour, the indirect benefits in total costs of productivity benefits are not observed in standard accounting practices and metrics (at least in what I've seen which arguably is lacking). These education and training and institutional knowledge costs are real but often not respected by current business training and accounting practices.
Unions train workers? Since when? Even if that is so, for some bizarre reason, Boeing has plenty of workers who know how everything works, inside and out, that can easily do the training. Boeing provides incentives for workers to upgrade their skills and knowledge by increasing their pay for higher skills, and fireing workers who refuse to keep up with changing technology. As if before unions nobody knew how to crack open a book or a manual or how to take a course.
I gotta wonder what the Boeing exc's were thinking when back in 2008 the the machinists went on strike and Boeing was losing millions each day. I would've thought they would've settled with the union demands for a bit more coin for its workers quicker considering the strike impact had on production ?
I drove up to the Everett factory in 1971. Didn't get inside, but it was very impressive from the outside! 74's were everywhere, with markings from all over the world. The wing testing rack was visible, pretty impressive. I am sure things have changed a bit in 50 years.
I toured the Everett factory back in 2008 and it was such an amazing experience. I toured the 747 line and the 787 test planes that were just starting to take shape. When I lived in North Carolina for a couple of years, I called the South Carolina plant and asked if they were offering tours or open house visits for the public. Unfortunately the SC plant was not open to the public so I did not get a chance to see it.
Too bad, after 10 years in SC, BSC still can't build a plane that doesn't need to be flown to Everett to be reworked. There are airlines that refuse BSC built planes, which saddens me. Having talked to people at BSC, they believe that they will unionize in 21. Hopefully that's true. Right now its get those out the door, get your bean sold so the accountants can count it. Push push push. One of the reasons why they make so many mistakes. The rear join appears ro be a mystery because the last 4 have had to be reworked in Everett. In a survey by customers, they said that boeing employees work too much overtime and make mistakes.
Yeah I was on that picket line. Which part of it was funny? It was not in France. We physically were in the pacific Northwest. That Boeing was losing 100 million dollars a day should tell you beyond any doubt they were not into math during that conflict. They were into being assholes. I know. I went back to work after it was settled and the company had destroyed all the bicycles we used to get to the machine shop or to the flight line. Why? No other reason than they wanted us to walk everywhere. I remember my boss telling me we wouldn't be getting another bicycle in the shop in the worlds biggest building. i replied to him. Add another hour to every job we do in here. Boeing management is a bunch of Fucking morons.
@@allmightygriff So it’s your belief that management should be able to walk over for employees and they should just be happy they have jobs? That was the way it was in the 1920s. Why don’t you look and see how many workers died for each skyscraper or bridge built back in that era.
@@neilkurzman4907 it is my belief that workers and employers are equal. Unions are important. But are not necessary. They do more harm than good. It is in an employers best interest to treat their employees as good as possible. Unions only raise the bar to impossible heights and drive their industry to bankruptcy.
The work in the South Carolina plant is often shoddy to the point that safety is compromised. Qatar Airlines won't accept planes built there, and KLM has complained of poor quality control. Boeing is acting is if they wish to become the General Motors of the aviation world. There may be a need for a third company that could compete with Airbus. It would be unfortunate if China became a competitor.
@@twixieshores Ilyushin is still active as a brand of UAC (their primary civilian product is the Il-96 quad-jet airliner), it's just that for marketing purposes the majority of airliners produced by UAC carry the Antonov branding and most Ilyushin aircraft are military planes.
@@thermitebanana------- Yup, I heard that bit. That's why workers unionized. But soon enough the gangsters realized that the unions had a lot of cash for them to steal.
The main reason the Boeing management moved to Chicago was that it’s a city with more interesting cultural and social life than is Seattle with similar mixed weather, and large square footage housing is somewhat reasonably priced... lastly, Chicago is still a geographic midpoint to all of their operations...
Another bad decision by the management team at Boeing... The management is completely disconnected from the reality at the Boeing engineering and production plant, as the management sits far away in Chicago... There have been so many issues with the 787 production in South Carolina, as the workforce their is often quite unqualified. I remember the Broken Dreams documentary where they showed the problems in the South Carolina factory. And in 2020 we saw the first problems with 787‘s made there... (also fatigue of body parts). There are some rumors that a few airlines won’t even accept planes made in South Carolina... Another reason why I am a happy Airbus stock owner ...
@@mgsaviation9292 It’s not clear yet where they intend to go and when it will happen but I definitely remember reading an article a little back saying they were looking to move out in the future to cut costs like why they moved 787 production to SC
Went to the Everett plant starting in 1985. Fortunate to get a engineering tour with Boeing staff in 2002. Helped with the 777X design center in 2015 and toured the 737 plant in Renton. Boeing is an awesome company.
@@Obelisk57 As an engineer at the top. 100% will. As engineers that actually understand the dire consequences of shoddy worksmanship, we will gladly sacrifice profits for a great product. How many disasters have we seen was caused by those in power that understand nothing about the technology over ruling the recommendation and decisions of the engineers that built the thing?
after the lowlifes of MD got into boeings workings and started penny pinching boeing was no longer a good company they changed a damn lot with the get it out get it flying no matter what happens to the plane money over life is their new motto
Moved to the Seattle area back in 2017 and now live just up the road from the 737 plant in Renton. Last year we took the tour in Everett, the building is mind boggling huge! You could get dizzy looking out across the hangers from the top floor. Really sad to see Boeing moving operations away from Washington, it's such a huge part of the economy here so I can only hope there's a reversal of sorts when things improve. Great video as always!
My first visit to the Everett plant was in December 1974 I was 13 years old, I came back in 1994 for a second visit. I’ve visited Seattle several times. I remember the Boeing filed right there in Seattle.
And the 787s produced in N Carolina are having problems. This has already cost Boeing. Not looking like a good move. This is what happens when the bean counters are in charge and a lack of communication exists. Boeing should never have moved out of Wa and never let the bean counter have power. The formula of the past that worked so well should not have been abandoned.
thats what happens when you buy a shit company (MD) and then let their penny pinchers take over it drags down your company i have no sympathy for boeing they deserve to fade into history for their disgusting profits over safety approach that killed MD off
Thanks for this video... I wanted to express my concern... during all my life I saw two aeronautical companies competing. Boeing and Airbus, yes they weren't the only ones, but they managed to be alone, I read several texts about the duopoly... close their original factory is the biggest mistake that they can do... the board is making patent their stupidity. Coby, could you find the cost of working hours to AirBus in Europe and the USA? All we know the problem with the industry now, but I am afraid that we are living in the last days of Boing before the crash, and the government of the USA takes control of the company like with GM years before.
1) you hit 50k, congrats! And 2) yes, I have visited the Everett plant, but only once. That visit was significant because Boeing also conducted its first test flight of the 787 with its new battery packs the same day I was there. In short, I got to tour the factory, and then went to a hillside off of the departure end of 34L where we saw it take off! It was a brand new 787 that would later be put into service with LOT.
Was there in 1969 in Everett working on flight test wiring so the 747 could do it's first flight. Then it went to Seattle for flight test which I was on. Had 5 planes for certification. Great plane
@@MrWATM California Businesses Leave The State By The Thousands by Lee Ohanian Tuesday, September 8, 2020 California businesses are leaving the state in droves. In just 2018 and 2019-economic boom years-765 commercial facilities left California. This exodus doesn’t count Charles Schwab’s announcement to leave San Francisco next year. Nor does it include the 13,000 estimated businesses to have left between 2009 and 2016.
@@heronimousbrapson863 Define "decent wage," & "Safe working conditions." If it takes you more than a paragraph (50 words or less,) congratulations, you should become a government tyrant.
Everett 747- 400 was my first Job out of A&P School in 1989 and then they went out on strike in Oct of that year,we delivered the 747th 747 to Lufthansa that year also,and then they had a layoff the following Jan of 1990 so mine was a short stay with them.
You talk about unions if it was bad, without them the employers can use us workers harder without fair pay. just look at us in europe, better wellfare and happier workers
@@totallysmooth1203 yeah blame "liberals", but if the US had normal labour laws like any other developed country, none of this would happen. Boeing is moving out of WA because it's cheaper for them to underpay unionless workers in SC. This would be unthinkable in Europe.
@@totallysmooth1203 hahaha sure, sounds totally legit and not far right conspiracist propaganda at all. It's a shame that the US can't take care of their own workers because aparently that would be "communist". In the end, your own companies pay the price. It happened to your automobile industry, and it's happening to your aviation industry now. Meanwhile, European and Chinese manufacturers are filling the gap. Good luck with that.
@@totallysmooth1203 hah, that's a petty excuse. The USA have the softest laws and regulations when it comes to manufacturing industries. American cars can't even be sold overseas because they don't meet most countries' standards. Same applies to food, cosmetics and whatnot. But your delusional ass is gonna blame your failure on "liberal" over-regulation, right? Good, keep denying the problem. In the end, it's you who lose.
@@osasunaitor In most of the US $24.00 an hour is a good wage. I worked for a union for 15 years and most of the time the rich union bosses ignore the union worked until it was time to get re-elected. I stood on a picket line for 5 month Los and watch the union bosses collect their pay why the employees on the picket line starved and lost our homes.
The funny thing is as I have worked on this program and in both facilities.. the difference is huge! The SC facility is filled with mall walkers, people walk around all day and don’t work, WA teams worked and got the job done… the QC is also completely different and the way the SC program, the issues started when Alenia and Boeing tried to replicate Airbus model. There was so many issues with Alenia and FHI and KHI and Spirit prices lining up… the labor is unskilled and the training is sub par… the workers just want a pay check, stamps are abused and the CT process is a joke too. This move will set on motion the 2nd set of problems since the design issues with the 787… also you failed to mention the main reason for the 08 strike. I believe it was started due to Boeing seeking to fire the entire logistics dept and outsource it. The workers United to protect their brothers and sisters.
no hate to boeing but there making to much mistakes in my opinion airbus is winning the doupoly only reason boeing is tthis realivent is because of the airlines that are pro boeing
I went to the Boeing factory in Everett in January 2020 just before Covid pandemic hit. It was amazing to see how the planes were made and on the tour they talked about 747 freighters, 777x, etc but nothing about the 737 because of the Max incidents. :)
That's because the 737s weren't built in Everett.
You got that backwards dude, the Renton Factory existed decades before the Everett Plant broke ground. The 707 was built in Renton, the Everett Factory was originally built for the 747,
The merger, when McDonnell douglas bought boeing, with Boeing's money. Running the company like McD into the ground. They treat employees, customer's, suppliers like shit. They give bonuses to their series E managers, for imaginary goals by managers unaware they build airplanes. Go for zero, the threat to anyone getting hurt in their work safety program. Too bad the 737 max crasher suicide plane didn't have a go go zero plan. We would only be imagining the passengers dead on a chart in their world. They need to clean house at the top, all senior and executive managers need to be walked out. Start new. Failing this, they will continue to fail.
Thank you for getting it right.
You're right.
@Anonymous Anonymous I like how you say "We're the better of only two large aerospace companies." First at least you admitted you are biased by using "we" in association with Boeing. Second, that's the problem. Consolidation. Boeing used to be a great company. Now its falling apart. Its space division got beat to the ISS by a company that built their first rocket a decade ago despite having a head start, decades of experience, and being paid twice as much. Boeing's planes are crashing themselves into the ground. I wish I never had to get on another Boeing jet again. One thing you are right about though, despite failing, Boeing isn't going anywhere. At this point they are too big to fail and too important to our national security (again due to consolidation). So despite how horrible the company is being run we are stuck with them. And that is not a comforting thought. Boeing is a cautionary tale about uncontrolled mergers and reduced competition.
I live getting chances to visit the plants. There is a hotel basically on the grounds of the Everett operation. You can walk across to their small museum and stand on the deck to see all the planes.
I get the money part but Boeing still needs to fix the quality control aspect in South Carolina
Right? You can move, but if your quality goes down, well, screw you too.
This is like how the big three left Detroit for Mexico, but quality went pshhhh. But those are personal vehicles. These are airplanes. Not in same ball park. Not even close.
The QC aspect will prevent me from ever flying on a Boeing plan again.
@@ABCantonese I grew up in Detroit, and was acquainted for a number of years with the now-deceased national director of customer relations at Pontiac, who privately admitted to me that he wasn't sure his boss Roger Smith knew what he was doing; so the problems in Detroit started long before any production relocation.
@@mka4pol So no more southwest or Ryanair for you?
The situation is so bad I know of 3 major airlines who won't take planes from the Charleston factory. It's actually in their purchase contracts. How is this going play out?
Coby, we’re all here because you have a really information dense yet comprehensible approach to all your videos. Your videos are as long as they need to be, no longer. So I click your content as soon as I see it because I learn something new each time.
I appreciate that!
Visit the "Museum of Flight" in Seattle when it re-opens. It's a terrific stop in addition to the Everett Boeing factory tour.
Congratulations! You’ve got a fantastic aviation channel, focusing on the comercial part of the industry!
Thanks :)
That’s so cool that you were inspired to create this channel after visiting the Everett factory. I visited for the first time a couple years ago (after talking about doing it for a couple of decades). It’s hard to describe to people the massive scale of that place. It is awesome!
We were there when the everett plant was built.My dad was the major subcontracts manager for the 747. I was a preflight mechanic (PAN AM #7)at Boeing field in Seattle.Sad about Seattles problems it all started when they moved Managment to Chicago Dad said "dad said the company was taken over by politics.
This is truly sad for me to see. My grandfather served in the military and then worked in the Boeing Everett factory. He is now retired, but it is still so sad for me to see this happen. I always have and probably will associate Boeing with the iconic Everett factory. I remember visiting the factory some summers ago. I believe it was called the “Museum of Flight Tour” and it was truly inspirational like you said. So inspirational in fact, that I decided I wanted to pursue my goal of becoming a pilot. Truly a magical place.
My Father was a Top Engineer for Boeing and designed the entire electrical system for the Minuteman Missile Silos, the Everett hangar, and buildings, along with the Auburn buildings just to name a few, plus helped design critical systems on the Boeing military Hydrofoil Tucumcari, a gunship that would do 50mph above the waves on hydrofoils, that still holds records today and Venezuela uses it for chasing drug runners. 32 Long years of dedicated service, overtime, etc. And at his retirement, they gave him a measly pension and a small wood desk clock that said Made in China.......Our neighbor worked for the railroad, home every night and weekends, and retired with 3 times the pension...... Not Impressed with the way Boeing rewards their top men.....
@@timmorris3056 Yes, I completely agree. My grandfather received a Boeing “Next 100 Years” plaque for his retirement, that I’m pretty sure was made in China as well. Most of his retirement benefits are from the military.
Nuttin lasts forever, Washington bleed the company dry along with new management
I'm just so fascinated by the Coby explanes videos
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@@cobyexplanes Boeing got too much of the "diversity hire", that is why the quality issues...they simply are unable to pay that much attention to details...Airbus is way ahead in many regards by now...
As a professional aircraft mechanic and an Everett native who now lives in Germany, this touched my heart. Great work man. My heart breaks that we're losing out on a lot and I hope when the world gets back to normal, my old home can keep its mainstay.
You left the US to go to Germany???that's an L move bro
Did you go to work at the Airbus plant in Bremen?
I worked at Everett for 7 months 4 years ago. I loved watching the dreamlifters come and go. The 787 will be missed in Washington, but their departure was no surprise given the rocky relation with labor.
Great video!
PNW unions are pretty difficult to work with across all industries.... Maybe no Philadelphia bad, but certainly in the bottom quartile nationwide...
Cost of living in the area along with increasing state and local regulations really justifies Boeing to diversify laa or market exposure.... Though that is not to say Charleston was the best choice with a total lack of aerospace/aviation history
I went to the Everett Washington facility in 2010 when the 787 was there and no where else yet and it was very new so I was so lucky to see it!
Keep up the good work pumping out interesting and educational aviation videos!
Toured the Boeing factory in 2017 - a truly awesome place and a must see
I worked at everett factory for a bit. The place is enormous. You can walk 15 minutes in a straight line without stopping and only be a bit over half way
No, Boeing has been in Everett since 1967 (53 years), when the widebody factory was built.
Correct - Boeing was founded in Seattle in 1916.
@@valuedcustomer9614 Seattle not Everett.
I think i'm one of the newest subsribers to your channel (a 737 video appears in my recomendations) and you explain every situation very clear and to make everyone understand what you are talking about. I don't know if here are more people from Mexico, but now you hace one!😁
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You're vids are great Cody, they are a welcomes escape from 2020. Keep up the great work and have a very Happy and safe holiday.
GREAT JOB, NARRATIVE, and RESEARCH! Thank you for this program!
Went to the Everett site august 2019, saw a 747 cargo plane in the assembly line. The scale of the factory is mind blowing
once you have walked on every floor and every room then you will think its small. I spent 12 years in that prison.
Proud to be one of the 49K subscribers. You produce fantastical informative, well researched and interesting videos. This one was particularly great as you showed all sides and reasons of Boeings move of the 787 production line to S.C. Congrats on the channel, onwards and upwards (pardon the pun) and so glad you have your face on a mug! (even if it doesn't have eyes :-p)
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Hey Coby! Congrats on the 50k followers! Can't wait to see what you have in store! Keep up the good work.
Very well spoken . Great job. Kept my attention listening to someone smart. Thanks
Been to the Everett factory before. Interesting place. Best part was seeing the dreamlifters.
Yes! Seeing the Dreamlifters and the 747 line was awesome. It's been the largest building in the world by volume since it was built in the 1960s. That being said, I completely understand why Boeing is wanting out.
Been there twice. First time was when the 787 was having birthing pains and there were cubicles set up next to the assembly line for the engineers. Second time there the cubicles were gone.
@@cb2000a Your first visit sounds about the same as my first visit to Everett in February 2008. I thought it was interesting that they had a cubical farm right on the production floor next to the prototype.
thank you for the great material Coby you will always be my crush enjoy your material keep it up
Congratulations on reaching 50k! Great content.
Really like all of your content Colby and have enjoyed seeing the progression/growth over the past year or so. I’ve shared your videos with both aviation enthusiasts and other common folk (lol) and they’re enjoyed by all! Cheers.
Much appreciated!
Congratulations on 50k
Hi Coby i totally agree and congrats for the 50k subs! i'm here since 700 subs!
Thanks for sticking around :)
This channel is definitely in my rotation of aviation channels now
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I vistited the Airbus Factory in Hamburg Germany two years ago. Amazing experience, state of the art factory, located on the bank of the mighty river Elbe
I vistited the Cheese Factory in Vladivostok lately. Amazing experience
1:36 ok coby, *Shares video to friends and fellow avgeeks
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When I was 10, I went on a huge across-the-country road trip with my grandparents. This was also the same time I was getting really interested into planes. We went through the southern states getting to California, going through Route 66 along the way, visiting many air museums and other places, then heading up to the Pacific Northwest. We stopped in Washington for a while and I didn't really know what we'd be doing there. My grandparents surprised me by taking me to the Future of Flight Aviation Center in Everett where the factory was. I explored the center and stuff before we went on the tour. It was beautiful to see the Dreamlifter sitting out there and pass by it and to see the giant hangar doors with the woman on the side (which I found out was a photo from a German/Swiss cookie commercial). I didn't see the 747 line, but I got to see the 777 and the 787 line and it was so beautiful. I looked at it all in awe. I knew that I was really interested in planes, but I think that's what cemented my love for aviation and made me want to work for Boeing. It was such an impactful moment for me. Come to 2020, I'm going for a degree in aerospace at UCF and I still have loved planes since that moment in 2010. I hope that I can work for Boeing in the future (I wouldn't mind working for NASA either). I know it kind of stinks what Boeing is doing now, but I still want to fulfill my dreams to design airplanes and I think Boeing would be a great place to work. Maybe I could also help in making a difference at the company (I doubt it, but it would be nice if I could).
I was in the Boeing factory in Everett as a child when it was being built, the first two 747s were being assembled and the factory floor wasn’t fully finished being poured, my dad was a supervisor on the first 747s. The first 707s, and he started at Boeing at Plant 2 in Seattle on B-52 #11
Will you do a video/update on Ryanair ordering lots of 737max and why that is?
"Buddy Order".
Cheap planes. That is it. The company can order more planes at the same cost. Allowing Ryanair to grow.
I think the MD "merger" marked the beginning of the end of Boeing......
Boeing was bought out by MD because they had ruined their own brand.
@@derekhieb7458 well technically, Boeing bought MD. But MD executives staged an internal coup. And the results have manifested as the poor quality and shifty business practices that had doomed MD previously.
One might call this the Harry Stonecipher affect. He was responsible for Boeing's "Integration is our core strength" initiative which lead to the extended delays of the 787 program per se. I could go on but this is the primary issue IMHO.
Terrific video! Yes! I have been to Everett back in 2000. Went on a sorta random trip out west to Seattle and while there I made it a point to rent a car and drive up and see the plant. I was amazed at size of the building and the aircraft in production. I made sure to hit the Boeing store on the way out. I was a kid in a candy store in that place! I wanted one of each of the desktop models. Looking back i should have pickup up a 747 desktop model with them retiring. Instead I picked up a f/A 18 hornet blue angles desktop model and several Boeing t-shirts. Many still new to this day!
I was fortunate to be able to tour the Boeing Everett plant in the 60s when the very first 747s were being built. These were pre-production units. A family friend’s business was a vendor and got us special acess. I vividly remember a roomfull of engineers/draftsmen, doing drafting by hand, working on a problem with vibration in the flaps. We were also allowed on a 747 pre-production unit being built that was far from finished....a bare interior with wires hanging out everywhere. I was in junior high then and I wish I could have appreciated then how special and unique that access was.
Sometimes I drive from my home in Wyoming to the Pacific Northwest on vacation and I always make it a point to drive past the Boeing plant, probably because I'm a massive Boeing fanboy.
But we're airlines want seattle built 787 over South Carolina built 787?
Yep, several airlines don't want Carolina planes do to the obvious quality difference
If they don't get their quality control right, orders from legacy safety-minded or premium airlines (like QANTAS, Singapore Airlines, or ANA) will dry up.
Shut up.... you're gonna get the airplanes we at Boeing decide on ..... and you're gonna like it
Airbus folks have a big smile over this
Retired from Boeing Everett in 2017. Worked the 747, 767, 787, 737. It is bittersweet today. I could share so many stories...some great and many, well sad. Cheers!
Your channel is fantastic Coby, keep up the good work!
Glad you enjoy it!
R.I.P quality. When you pay peanuts you get...
Anyway I guess it's an unexpected gift to Airbus.
They can get their QC issues under control without overpaying for labor. Unions ran the jobs out of town.
@@mikelp72 Yeah blame the unions for fighting for fair wages and not the asshats that want their quarterly stock gains.
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You will never fix quality issues by paying people peanuts. In their efforts to go full out capitalism, Boeing is actually copying socialism and communism by underpaying their employees in South Carolina. Some international airlines have already refused to take delivery of new Boeing 787s out of South Carolina. So much for Boeing quality.
@@OlafoWaffle Yea ok. The proof is in the pudding. Jobs are leaving, union bosses get rich off those they ‘represent’. Believe what you want.
@@TheChiefEng ah yes, the definition of socialism: normal capitalist factories that have low wages.
For real though, I'm not saying socialism is better than capitalism here, just pointing out that funny statement. The last thing I'd want to do is to get into a youtube comment section fight in an aviation video.
They’ll likely still stay at Everette for 777X and possible future 737 Max production there due to no more space at Renton for above 60 a month
Honestly that sounds like a pretty good idea to add extra 737 production to Everett with the 787 leaving. Of course that is if demand picks back up after the airline industry makes a full recovery in the future.
Wow thanks for this video! My family is moving to Charleston, South Carolina too and I’ve been wanting more information about the factory there, since I thought Boeing was only in Everett, Washington. Thanks so much for this video!
Yes! I live in PNW and I've been to the Boeing plant in Everett a few times! My dad worked for Boeing in the 90's and so I got to see the roll out of the 777. It was very impressive. I also really loved "take your daughter to work day", that always came along with a tour of the facility. Some of my favorite memories with my dad. Cool channel btw, you got a new sub out if me! 👍😊✈️❤️
Let’s get him at 50k!
Got it!
The count is now past 50,000. He did it!
2:45 They squashed Disneyland, those bastards.
Keep up the good work Coby!
Nice job Coby! Keep it up.
Boeing's blunder was moving to South Carolina rather, for instance, to the large tract of land they owned next to the airport in Huntsville, Alabama. When it comes to worker quality, there are two Souths.
-One is the Black Belt, meaning land where cotton was grown and where slavery destroyed the work ethic. That culture remains, along with widespread poverty and an almost illiterate population. Columbus, SC was not only in the slave belt, it was a prominent center in slave trading. Boeing's quality problems there are hardly surprising.
-The other lies in the Piedmont regions of the South, where hills and poor soil made cotton growing impractical. There the population was small independent farmers who knew they must work or starve. Huntsville is an example of the latter region, one that not only had little slavery, many of its inhabitants were anti-slavery and, like my ancestors from near there, called the Civil War, "a rich man's war, a poor man's fight."
One business advisor described the difference well when he said, "If you want to locate in the South, look for hills. If you see hills, you'll find good workers."
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Huntsville had other advantages, including a highly educated population, a 15,000 foot runway, excellent highway, rail and water connections. Aerospace firms would have been able to located on the Interstate between Huntsville and Mobile, where Airbus has a factory, making for a excellent supply chain.
Ah, but there was one major negative factor for Boeing executives when it came to Huntsville. While the wages they'd need to pay in Huntsville would be less than those in Seattle, they'd be more than those in South Carolina. Boeing decided to go cheap and is reaping the consequences. Here's is what Boeing in Huntsville is already accomplishing.
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"Key programs underway in Huntsville include Ground-based Midcourse Defense; PAC-3 Missile Seeker and other missile defense systems; the Minuteman III Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM); NASA’s heavy-lift Space Launch System; and the International Space Station. Boeing Research & Technology develops innovations that apply across commercial, defense and space programs. Boeing Global Services supports a variety of Department of Defense platforms, including Army programs in Alabama. Boeing assembles electronic boxes and circuit cards at the company’s Fabrication Center of Excellence in Huntsville. Huntsville is a growing region, with the highest ratio of engineers in the U.S. and a cost of living 10% below the national average. In 2019, U.S. News & World Report named Huntsville the #11 Best Place to Live in the country, and Kiplinger’s Personal Finance has named Huntsville one of the country’s Top 10 Cities for Raising Families." jobs.boeing.com/boeing-in-huntsville
More and more, as a former Seattle resident I've come to believe that Boeing Corporate has decided to major in stupidity. With its focus on the pennies, decision after decision has been a blunder.
Im from SC. The whole slavery/work ethic thing is spot on. It's brings us down hard on the employment rate and education rate. It saddens me seeing the problems we have at the charleston plant. But it's all work ethic related. You got it 100% figured out.
dont give me that slave crap thing seeing i lived in new orleans and seen many gulf coast plantations so take your racist attitude somewhere else
While I appreciate your videos the comments about the unions are missing one import part. Unions play a very large roll in educating the workforce. They provide training and incentives to update training as new techniques are developed. This value isn't accounted for directly as this is deemed an "institutional knowledge" and cannot be quantified in direct costs/benefits to the employer. So while the direct costs to Boeing may be higher in cost per hour, the indirect benefits in total costs of productivity benefits are not observed in standard accounting practices and metrics (at least in what I've seen which arguably is lacking). These education and training and institutional knowledge costs are real but often not respected by current business training and accounting practices.
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Unions train workers? Since when? Even if that is so, for some bizarre reason, Boeing has plenty of workers who know how everything works, inside and out, that can easily do the training. Boeing provides incentives for workers to upgrade their skills and knowledge by increasing their pay for higher skills, and fireing workers who refuse to keep up with changing technology. As if before unions nobody knew how to crack open a book or a manual or how to take a course.
I gotta wonder what the Boeing exc's were thinking when back in 2008 the the machinists went on strike and Boeing was losing millions each day. I would've thought they would've settled with the union demands for a bit more coin for its workers quicker considering the strike impact had on production ?
I drove up to the Everett factory in 1971. Didn't get inside, but it was very impressive from the outside! 74's were everywhere, with markings from all over the world. The wing testing rack was visible, pretty impressive. I am sure things have changed a bit in 50 years.
I toured the Everett factory back in 2008 and it was such an amazing experience. I toured the 747 line and the 787 test planes that were just starting to take shape. When I lived in North Carolina for a couple of years, I called the South Carolina plant and asked if they were offering tours or open house visits for the public. Unfortunately the SC plant was not open to the public so I did not get a chance to see it.
I have delivered inside the SC boeing hub, It's beautiful. But theirs so many building and I've only been in 2.
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Love the Palmetto state!!!!
Too bad, after 10 years in SC, BSC still can't build a plane that doesn't need to be flown to Everett to be reworked. There are airlines that refuse BSC built planes, which saddens me. Having talked to people at BSC, they believe that they will unionize in 21. Hopefully that's true. Right now its get those out the door, get your bean sold so the accountants can count it. Push push push. One of the reasons why they make so many mistakes. The rear join appears ro be a mystery because the last 4 have had to be reworked in Everett. In a survey by customers, they said that boeing employees work too much overtime and make mistakes.
I visited and toured the Boeing assembly plant in 2013. Amazing place!
very well explained and researched video!
Gosh he is so handsome lol but besides all that his Videos are so informative and greatly put together.
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Congrats on 50K!
congrats! 50k soon to come. you are gonna have a great future
Lmao at the last strike in 2008, they wouldn’t like to be in France 🤣
Yeah I was on that picket line. Which part of it was funny? It was not in France. We physically were in the pacific Northwest. That Boeing was losing 100 million dollars a day should tell you beyond any doubt they were not into math during that conflict. They were into being assholes. I know. I went back to work after it was settled and the company had destroyed all the bicycles we used to get to the machine shop or to the flight line. Why? No other reason than they wanted us to walk everywhere. I remember my boss telling me we wouldn't be getting another bicycle in the shop in the worlds biggest building. i replied to him. Add another hour to every job we do in here. Boeing management is a bunch of Fucking morons.
@@fxsrider well that’s an angry comment... I just meant that in France we have way more strikes than that
@@fxsrider you never should have gone on strike then. You would still have bikes
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So it’s your belief that management should be able to walk over for employees and they should just be happy they have jobs? That was the way it was in the 1920s. Why don’t you look and see how many workers died for each skyscraper or bridge built back in that era.
@@neilkurzman4907 it is my belief that workers and employers are equal. Unions are important. But are not necessary. They do more harm than good. It is in an employers best interest to treat their employees as good as possible. Unions only raise the bar to impossible heights and drive their industry to bankruptcy.
The work in the South Carolina plant is often shoddy to the point that safety is compromised. Qatar Airlines won't accept planes built there, and KLM has complained of poor quality control. Boeing is acting is if they wish to become the General Motors of the aviation world. There may be a need for a third company that could compete with Airbus. It would be unfortunate if China became a competitor.
Part of that was a design problem in a specific 787 variant. They only made that one in SC, now they make all of them in SC.
Someone should revive Ilyushin.
@@twixieshores Ilyushin is still active as a brand of UAC (their primary civilian product is the Il-96 quad-jet airliner), it's just that for marketing purposes the majority of airliners produced by UAC carry the Antonov branding and most Ilyushin aircraft are military planes.
Great job doing what you do!
Congrats Coby for 50k subs before January, i wish u will reach 1m soon, and also dont forget us when ur famous!
Unions main job is to enrich high ranking union executives.
Did you listen to the bit about higher wages and less dangerous working conditions?
@@thermitebanana------- Yup, I heard that bit. That's why workers unionized. But soon enough the gangsters realized that the unions had a lot of cash for them to steal.
@@BoopShooBee - Sadly, it’s true. Some of them worked with management to rid of senior engineers cuz they’re too expensive.
I can't understand why they moved to Chicago. Top brass and the engineers need to be together. Some things just don't work over the internet.
There was a shift from engineering being priority to accountants being a priority.
@@MrRailfan I think you're right.
The main reason the Boeing management moved to Chicago was that it’s a city with more interesting cultural and social life than is Seattle with similar mixed weather, and large square footage housing is somewhat reasonably priced... lastly, Chicago is still a geographic midpoint to all of their operations...
Chicago is basically budget NYC
Love your videos, keep it up!
Great video, Coby. Good work.
Thanks!
Love the video but Duwamish is Due-wah-mish. Not do-a-mish.
Another bad decision by the management team at Boeing...
The management is completely disconnected from the reality at the Boeing engineering and production plant, as the management sits far away in Chicago...
There have been so many issues with the 787 production in South Carolina, as the workforce their is often quite unqualified. I remember the Broken Dreams documentary where they showed the problems in the South Carolina factory. And in 2020 we saw the first problems with 787‘s made there... (also fatigue of body parts).
There are some rumors that a few airlines won’t even accept planes made in South Carolina...
Another reason why I am a happy Airbus stock owner ...
Apparently now they are looking to leave Chicago
@@filledwithvariousknowledge1065 where do they wanna go ?
@@filledwithvariousknowledge1065 is that true? Will that happen? When will it happen? Is there a hope? Where will they go?
@@mgsaviation9292 It’s not clear yet where they intend to go and when it will happen but I definitely remember reading an article a little back saying they were looking to move out in the future to cut costs like why they moved 787 production to SC
@@filledwithvariousknowledge1065 to cut costs - ok..., they won’t come back to Seattle 🙄
Maybe also to South Carolina or Texas...
Excellent and detailed summary.
Went to the Everett plant starting in 1985. Fortunate to get a engineering tour with Boeing staff in 2002. Helped with the 777X design center in 2015 and toured the 737 plant in Renton. Boeing is an awesome company.
Chalk it up to another great engineering firm getting gutted by peny pinching businessmen.
No, it was when McDonnell-Douglas took control of Boeing in 1996. I mean, how good an airplane was the deadly DC10?
Yeah, sure. Completely ignore the politicans looking to tax them to death.
If you were the "businessman" I am sure you would have chosen to pay more in labor and put up with labor strikes once in a while, right?
@@Obelisk57 As an engineer at the top. 100% will. As engineers that actually understand the dire consequences of shoddy worksmanship, we will gladly sacrifice profits for a great product.
How many disasters have we seen was caused by those in power that understand nothing about the technology over ruling the recommendation and decisions of the engineers that built the thing?
That's neoliberalism for you
As always, it is a matter of costs, convenience and cooperation. Washington state changed;
Boeing did not!
Nah. Boeing changed. Re MD takeover.
@@i-love-space390 MD bought Boeing with Boeing's money.
after the lowlifes of MD got into boeings workings and started penny pinching boeing was no longer a good company they changed a damn lot with the get it out get it flying no matter what happens to the plane money over life is their new motto
Moved to the Seattle area back in 2017 and now live just up the road from the 737 plant in Renton. Last year we took the tour in Everett, the building is mind boggling huge! You could get dizzy looking out across the hangers from the top floor.
Really sad to see Boeing moving operations away from Washington, it's such a huge part of the economy here so I can only hope there's a reversal of sorts when things improve. Great video as always!
Fantastic video. Thank you so much.
Real reason: the state of Washington is going down the toilet- getting out while they still can.
totally agree
Any "human toll" in WA will be balanced by "human benefit" in SC.
My first visit to the Everett plant was in December 1974 I was 13 years old, I came back in 1994 for a second visit. I’ve visited Seattle several times. I remember the Boeing filed right there in Seattle.
Hello from Nicaragua. I enjoy your videos very much. Congrats
And the 787s produced in N Carolina are having problems. This has already cost Boeing. Not looking like a good move.
This is what happens when the bean counters are in charge and a lack of communication exists. Boeing should never have moved out of Wa and never let the bean counter have power. The formula of the past that worked so well should not have been abandoned.
thats what happens when you buy a shit company (MD) and then let their penny pinchers take over it drags down your company i have no sympathy for boeing they deserve to fade into history for their disgusting profits over safety approach that killed MD off
Thanks for this video... I wanted to express my concern... during all my life I saw two aeronautical companies competing. Boeing and Airbus, yes they weren't the only ones, but they managed to be alone, I read several texts about the duopoly... close their original factory is the biggest mistake that they can do... the board is making patent their stupidity. Coby, could you find the cost of working hours to AirBus in Europe and the USA? All we know the problem with the industry now, but I am afraid that we are living in the last days of Boing before the crash, and the government of the USA takes control of the company like with GM years before.
I think The USA government will force Lockheed Martin acquire Boeing
1) you hit 50k, congrats! And 2) yes, I have visited the Everett plant, but only once. That visit was significant because Boeing also conducted its first test flight of the 787 with its new battery packs the same day I was there. In short, I got to tour the factory, and then went to a hillside off of the departure end of 34L where we saw it take off! It was a brand new 787 that would later be put into service with LOT.
Was there in 1969 in Everett working on flight test wiring so the 747 could do it's first flight. Then it went to Seattle for flight test which I was on. Had 5 planes for certification. Great plane
Every business is leaving the Left Coast.
Uhh. No.
Every business is not.
@@MrWATM California Businesses Leave The State By The Thousands
by Lee Ohanian
Tuesday, September 8, 2020
California businesses are leaving the state in droves. In just 2018 and 2019-economic boom years-765 commercial facilities left California. This exodus doesn’t count Charles Schwab’s announcement to leave San Francisco next year. Nor does it include the 13,000 estimated businesses to have left between 2009 and 2016.
Elon musk just moved to Texas haha the west coast is to broken to fix.
Yeah, how dare those west coasters ask for a decent wage and safe working conditions...
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Is this the same Elon Musk who wants taxpayers to pay for his hyperloop scam ? He needs to be deported !
The only way to "fix it" is to start voting democrats out of office...especially the Governors.
@@heronimousbrapson863 Define "decent wage," & "Safe working conditions." If it takes you more than a paragraph (50 words or less,) congratulations, you should become a government tyrant.
Everett 747- 400 was my first Job out of A&P School in 1989 and then they went out on strike in Oct of that year,we delivered the 747th 747 to Lufthansa that year also,and then they had a layoff the following Jan of 1990 so mine was a short stay with them.
Saw the Big Boeing plant in 2012! Epic!
You talk about unions if it was bad, without them the employers can use us workers harder without fair pay. just look at us in europe, better wellfare and happier workers
RUclips “broken dreams” - this is Boeing putting corporate greed over quality! Shame on Boeing - time to go back to quality first!!
Yeah. I feel like it should focus more on engineering and safety rather than cutting corners and putting finances first.
@@totallysmooth1203 yeah blame "liberals", but if the US had normal labour laws like any other developed country, none of this would happen.
Boeing is moving out of WA because it's cheaper for them to underpay unionless workers in SC.
This would be unthinkable in Europe.
@@totallysmooth1203 hahaha sure, sounds totally legit and not far right conspiracist propaganda at all. It's a shame that the US can't take care of their own workers because aparently that would be "communist". In the end, your own companies pay the price. It happened to your automobile industry, and it's happening to your aviation industry now. Meanwhile, European and Chinese manufacturers are filling the gap. Good luck with that.
@@totallysmooth1203 hah, that's a petty excuse. The USA have the softest laws and regulations when it comes to manufacturing industries. American cars can't even be sold overseas because they don't meet most countries' standards. Same applies to food, cosmetics and whatnot. But your delusional ass is gonna blame your failure on "liberal" over-regulation, right? Good, keep denying the problem. In the end, it's you who lose.
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In most of the US $24.00 an hour is a good wage.
I worked for a union for 15 years and most of the time the rich union bosses ignore the union worked until it was time to get re-elected. I stood on a picket line for 5 month Los and watch the union bosses collect their pay why the employees on the picket line starved and lost our homes.
great explaination!
im a new susbscriber!
enjoyed the video!
Coby has, hands down, the best aviation information channel out there and deserves much more than 50k subscribers. Why you ask? Let me explain...
The funny thing is as I have worked on this program and in both facilities.. the difference is huge! The SC facility is filled with mall walkers, people walk around all day and don’t work, WA teams worked and got the job done… the QC is also completely different and the way the SC program, the issues started when Alenia and Boeing tried to replicate Airbus model. There was so many issues with Alenia and FHI and KHI and Spirit prices lining up… the labor is unskilled and the training is sub par… the workers just want a pay check, stamps are abused and the CT process is a joke too. This move will set on motion the 2nd set of problems since the design issues with the 787… also you failed to mention the main reason for the 08 strike. I believe it was started due to Boeing seeking to fire the entire logistics dept and outsource it. The workers United to protect their brothers and sisters.
no hate to boeing but there making to much mistakes in my opinion airbus is winning the doupoly only reason boeing is tthis realivent is because of the airlines that are pro boeing
Fully agree.
They should go back to their core values.
Which also means their management should come back to Seattle ...
@@Casskario You mean they should get new management then put them in Seattle.
Except Boeing still has the majority in the market share. smh
@@amtrakfanatic3547 not true anymore ...
Airbus delivered more planes in 2019 then Boeing ...
@@amtrakfanatic3547 true
Well done. Thank you.
You aviation channel is awesome!
Glad you think so!