probably the hologram sight thingy is on the end of the barrel, usually both are closer to your eye or the dot is the one at the end of the barrel like real life iron sight, anyway the gun feels zoomed in so that the reticle doesn't look small
@@daythemilfslayer uhhh it’s like plus 1 from base so it’s not the greatest but with unfliching and all accuracy bumps and the 100 range letting you play afar it works Edit: no 2 points from enhanced intrinsic yet
I think the reason why it looks weird because its the Trust gun model so the back part of the sight is actually like half way up the gun where as other hand cannons its way back near the hammer thing, so the back sight part has to be where the other guns usually are and that makes its look bigger because the back hand of the gun is closer to the screen.
It’s the spare rations model not trust. Season of the deep also had a similar gun using the same model. Trust has a thinner barrel and different hammer.
btw wallah crimials dagger feels so good now with the sideways buff. highly recommend giving it another try. i have max range roll if you wanna try it if you don’t have it
the gun model is just really big when you scope, i think the gun model is zoomed in more than the rest of the screen, so the gun feels like it kicks really weird and the model moves in an unexpected way
Ya that’s what I was gonna say. The gun model is closer to the screen so the recoil seems more extreme than it is and feels like the pattern is weird. I expect them to fix that eventually
It reminds me of Trust model kinda, and trust model is GOATED, it really changes the feel of the gun, basically since it feels this weird and different, it gives you a better experience while using it. Happens for me with Dire too, that's why I love it so much
@@TheCartograqher I never thought about every weapon having it's own unique hand model until now. Instead of the hands being dynamic and adjusting to what's being held. Not sure which is the case but it's an interesting concept.
@LivingTheorem Not a conspet, In fps games (Halo, OW2, D2) Devs try to make First Person and Third Person player animations/models. Since the character modle might look good in 1prsn while holding a weapon. it might not in 3prsn. That's why sometimes, a reload or Melee animation might look diffrent between you and your teammates. Not all game companies do this ofc if they don't have the budget to animate diffrent relods or Melee animations ect. This can be applied to to how a character holds a weapon this is known as "weapon offsets"
I lost a match of 6's and got a fluted barrel, accurized, keep away, precision instrument with a master work that i didn't even pay attention to because I enhanced it so fast 🤷🏻♂️😏😎 love the gun and the content brother 👊🏻💯
Maybe someone else already came up with this but the reason WHY it looks weird is because the actual character 3D model hands are way closer to the camera when ADSing this thing. If you look at the Thorn footage you can see the hands are further "away" from the camera. Anyway, gun is good, Encore + Precision Inst is very fun. Cheers, Wallah!
I enhanced one with encore, precision instrument, steady rounds, hammer forged, and a range MW. On console, it is great! I’ve got a few good rolls though I’m trying out.
I usually go for range, but ever since I got a Something New with fluted/handling mw, i can't go back. Added the range/stability ballistics to it and its now the perfect 120, to me at least.
Something new is better than this for sure. I always try to get fluted on 120's. I got a a god roll with snap/pi and one with elecap/pi. I only used the snap one cause I don't use an arc super but with fluted/snap, it handles damn good for a 120. SN has a beautiful sight and gun model. Way better than this and Crimil's.
have you tried slideways after the buff ? I'm having so much fun using a slideways crimals dagger and this video reminded me of the new fun im having lol
I think I got a 4/5 for pvp. Fluted accurized rimestealer and ep with range mw. Has only 38 stab with the new mod but still slaps. I dont even notice the low stability on console
I think in one of the call of duty’s, I think modern warfare 2019 or new modern warfare 2 there was an option to use a scalar to slide how close are how far the weapon model is to your camera. I think weapon stocks would effect this as well like when using the default stock vs the no stock option
Honestly, Exuviae. Keep Away, Lone Wolf and Encore are all excellent 3rd slot picks, and ofc you have Precision Instrument for those overshields and 2 tapping potential. It's also earnable as of right now and you can specifically grind for it through the tonics. Feels like a dream to shoot aswell.
Personally, I'd say Something New. If you run an arc super it can get insane handling and if not you can run snapshot. It also has the True Prophecy Gun model which is better than this. This thing has a goofy gun model. I don't know how much handling lucky pants add but it doesn't add ads speed. So snap would be great to run with lucky pants. Snap/PI is what I use.
if youre talking about to weapon itself, thats just the normal shooting anymation of any 140 and 120. otherwise, the weapon has deterministic recoil, meaning it has a set recoil pattern, which is then manipulated by the recoil stat
@@uniball1700 I would have assumed a recoil stat of 93 would cause it to kick to the left instead, which is what I was slightly confused about. What if you threw on a Counterbalance mod, or used Extended Barrel to bring the recoil stat up to 100? Would it kick straight up instead?
@@Arkstellar if you have a recoil pattern that goes to the left youd have to get the recoil direction stat to go to the right to counteract the set recoil pattern. its a really stupid system because of how poorly it interacts with the recoil direction stat imo
I am a player who prefers crafting over chasing so I can get what I want then actually just use it. That being said, at least had 25 drops…not one with PI yet. And this guy gets the god roll to drop…ugh
Having fun?? In Destiny 2??? Next week's TWID: EXUVIAE nerfed into the ground > -100 airborne effectiveness (attempting to shoot this weapon in the air will just beaver you instantly) > handling reduced to 2 > just use meta weapons again bro
You can see the iron sights and it also has the dot sight. That may be what's making it feel so weird.
probably the hologram sight thingy is on the end of the barrel, usually both are closer to your eye or the dot is the one at the end of the barrel like real life iron sight, anyway the gun feels zoomed in so that the reticle doesn't look small
Gun model looks larger too so that may mess with people.
I got an 100 range roll and I am using it with lucky pants and MAN is this thing good. I feel so powerful. I am using to the pain precision instrument
How much stability u got on ur roll?
100 range is insane 💀 70 already gets you 36.5 meters of range
bro is roleplaying a scout rifle
I got one with 87 range and ep and got a we ran with it it's amazing
@@daythemilfslayer uhhh it’s like plus 1 from base so it’s not the greatest but with unfliching and all accuracy bumps and the 100 range letting you play afar it works
Edit: no 2 points from enhanced intrinsic yet
U cheating 😂
I think the reason why it looks weird because its the Trust gun model so the back part of the sight is actually like half way up the gun where as other hand cannons its way back near the hammer thing, so the back sight part has to be where the other guns usually are and that makes its look bigger because the back hand of the gun is closer to the screen.
It’s the spare rations model not trust. Season of the deep also had a similar gun using the same model. Trust has a thinner barrel and different hammer.
@@jamand9201 nah its Trust. equip both of them and swap between the two and you'll see how similar they are
Glaxing the AE every 2 seconds btw :D
btw wallah crimials dagger feels so good now with the sideways buff. highly recommend giving it another try. i have max range roll if you wanna try it if you don’t have it
Lucky pants feels awesome, the slide feels so great I'm never taking them out
the gun model is just really big when you scope, i think the gun model is zoomed in more than the rest of the screen, so the gun feels like it kicks really weird and the model moves in an unexpected way
Ya that’s what I was gonna say. The gun model is closer to the screen so the recoil seems more extreme than it is and feels like the pattern is weird. I expect them to fix that eventually
It reminds me of Trust model kinda, and trust model is GOATED, it really changes the feel of the gun, basically since it feels this weird and different, it gives you a better experience while using it. Happens for me with Dire too, that's why I love it so much
0:47 I think its still a bug since the hand is way closer than other hand cannons, not sure why they would change the way things work now right
It's not a bug they probably just messed up the first person player modle when they were making it
@@TheCartograqher I never thought about every weapon having it's own unique hand model until now. Instead of the hands being dynamic and adjusting to what's being held. Not sure which is the case but it's an interesting concept.
@LivingTheorem Not a conspet, In fps games (Halo, OW2, D2) Devs try to make First Person and Third Person player animations/models. Since the character modle might look good in 1prsn while holding a weapon. it might not in 3prsn. That's why sometimes, a reload or Melee animation might look diffrent between you and your teammates. Not all game companies do this ofc if they don't have the budget to animate diffrent relods or Melee animations ect. This can be applied to to how a character holds a weapon this is known as "weapon offsets"
One of the new weapon mods bungie added was to decrease or increase the zoom so if that's a big problem for anyone you could try that out
I like how the view model looks on the Scorn-cannon (I'm too lazy to look up its actual name) better than other 120s.
I lost a match of 6's and got a fluted barrel, accurized, keep away, precision instrument with a master work that i didn't even pay attention to because I enhanced it so fast 🤷🏻♂️😏😎 love the gun and the content brother 👊🏻💯
I got fluted, accurized, lone wolf and pi + a range masterwork so I might be cooking in pvp this season🤔🤔 (and it was my first drop of the gun)
Hurrng, ophidian/coyote class item carrying all my low handling weapons.
Sounds like they mixed the old moon hand cannon with spare rations. Honestly one of the best sounding hand cannons ever imo
Maybe someone else already came up with this but the reason WHY it looks weird is because the actual character 3D model hands are way closer to the camera when ADSing this thing. If you look at the Thorn footage you can see the hands are further "away" from the camera. Anyway, gun is good, Encore + Precision Inst is very fun. Cheers, Wallah!
The god roll was my first overall drop and I really like this.
Its the spare rations gun model with a scorn ornament and gun sound is volume lowered
Haven’t played this game in over a year and it sounds just like all the other 120s true prophecy , something new etc.
THIS GAME AAAH IT BECKONS ME, CLEAN SINCE MAY… WALLAH GIVE ME STRENGTH
Same
Explosive payload got fix btw, it deals the same dmg as normal shot now
Finally
Yeah I noticed that, my Rose was hitting for 58 instead of 55 like last season. I guess that will push out the range a tiny bit.
I enhanced one with encore, precision instrument, steady rounds, hammer forged, and a range MW. On console, it is great! I’ve got a few good rolls though I’m trying out.
I usually go for range, but ever since I got a Something New with fluted/handling mw, i can't go back. Added the range/stability ballistics to it and its now the perfect 120, to me at least.
Something new is better than this for sure. I always try to get fluted on 120's. I got a a god roll with snap/pi and one with elecap/pi. I only used the snap one cause I don't use an arc super but with fluted/snap, it handles damn good for a 120. SN has a beautiful sight and gun model. Way better than this and Crimil's.
@otisdriftwood7094 Yeah mine has fluted, acc rounds, rapid hit, precision instrument with a handling mw, i can't put it down.
Shoots like loud lullaby
have you tried slideways after the buff ? I'm having so much fun using a slideways crimals dagger and this video reminded me of the new fun im having lol
Try the new pistol next it’s actually very good
My current thoughts on why its so nice/niche to aim with is because it looks like a cleaner thorn
I swear I just get lasered by the enemy, and tons of my shots don't register, maybe its time to upgrade my xbox.
It’s sounds like a higher pitched version of the pump action from fortnite
also, the only thing that makes igneus better is the stability, idk man if people dont wanna farm trials I see this being used much more
I know that the focus is on lucky pants rn but i really want to try this gun with ophidian or with solar hunter for the extra handling.
14:14 don’t you shoot these for more ammo? Either way it’s from the origin perk I think
So what you're saying is the guns are worth getting back on for?
It seems to have the same odd view model as Zaoli's Bane from KF.
i bet this thing feels great on roller
Me who got the yellow version from onslaught, a god roll. And still deleted it, personally on console it’s wonky
Something New became something old
i think it looks weird because the gun is closer to the camera maybe? i have absolutely zero proof on that but that’s what it looks like to me
I think I got a 4/5 for pvp. Fluted accurized rimestealer and ep with range mw. Has only 38 stab with the new mod but still slaps. I dont even notice the low stability on console
If you look at the 120 vs the thorn comparison, the 120 is way closer to the camera and blocking way more of your view, thanks for the video wallah
I think in one of the call of duty’s, I think modern warfare 2019 or new modern warfare 2 there was an option to use a scalar to slide how close are how far the weapon model is to your camera. I think weapon stocks would effect this as well like when using the default stock vs the no stock option
New edit/into goes hard and is to-the-point. Pls keep 🙌
Is my Igneous Hammer still better?
-Yes it is
Man that strand knife just whiffs like that it's so weird 4:35
They changes the bottom dollar's shooting sound to this... I feels like I'm stepping in water everytime I shoot it
They changed it?? Dang
I love this sound and bottom dollar is my favourite hc yaaaaas
Damn, homeboy got super lucky with that roll 😅
did u get a new mic recently cause i havent watched in a min and u sound crispier
go steady rounds and a range mw its free ae
the gun sits closer to the face, thats why it feels off. this is because the sights is closer to the end of the gun
it feels weird because your character holds the gun significantly close to the camera than the other hand cannons
If you haven't tried slodeways yet it's now one of the best perks in the game.
Hey Wallah, do you know if Yunger is okay?
Between this and something new which would you say is better? Great vid btw
Honestly, Exuviae.
Keep Away, Lone Wolf and Encore are all excellent 3rd slot picks, and ofc you have Precision Instrument for those overshields and 2 tapping potential. It's also earnable as of right now and you can specifically grind for it through the tonics. Feels like a dream to shoot aswell.
Personally, I'd say Something New. If you run an arc super it can get insane handling and if not you can run snapshot. It also has the True Prophecy Gun model which is better than this. This thing has a goofy gun model. I don't know how much handling lucky pants add but it doesn't add ads speed. So snap would be great to run with lucky pants. Snap/PI is what I use.
so onslaught is back? any difference?
wait 10:15 i used to really like this map back in the day. when did they bring it back?
This episode
Why does it kick to the right when the recoil direction is 93?
if youre talking about to weapon itself, thats just the normal shooting anymation of any 140 and 120. otherwise, the weapon has deterministic recoil, meaning it has a set recoil pattern, which is then manipulated by the recoil stat
@@uniball1700 I would have assumed a recoil stat of 93 would cause it to kick to the left instead, which is what I was slightly confused about.
What if you threw on a Counterbalance mod, or used Extended Barrel to bring the recoil stat up to 100? Would it kick straight up instead?
@@Arkstellar if you have a recoil pattern that goes to the left youd have to get the recoil direction stat to go to the right to counteract the set recoil pattern. its a really stupid system because of how poorly it interacts with the recoil direction stat imo
The gun sounds like Round Robin
is lucky pants the move now
Why wouldn't you switch to an energy hand cannon to compare the two directly 😮💨
Sounds like the Vulpecula
What is the best energy weapon primary ps good vid
Before the slight nerfs it was probably Elsie's. I imagine it probably still is.
Dat it is a consistent mid range scout rifle made into a hand cannon let's be real here
Its a pretty good hc plus it feels pretty good
I’ve only played one day of the new season and I got this from eido and I liked it
I am a player who prefers crafting over chasing so I can get what I want then actually just use it. That being said, at least had 25 drops…not one with PI yet. And this guy gets the god roll to drop…ugh
crazy how he already has a god roll and its only been two days lmao
LET’S GO WALLAH
Am I trippin or does it sound like queen breakers bow
It's equally fun and good on PvE also and yeah, I'm just as good as Wallah after 48+ h !
Wallah be honest, are you feeling disappointed with the new season?
I think Keep Away enhanced gives 15 range not 12
ngl. this handcannon looks like spare rations but shoots like cantata. nahhh man
we have low zoom mod anyways
It won’t change the way it looks since the zoom isn’t actually increased here
@@SayWallahBruh yeah but it'll help people with the placebo that it is zoomed
SMH people fatshaming the scope 😔.
Bro, that is the trust re skinned
Bro did not mention the guns name anywhere 😆
Cant use conditional with = cant use it
8:25 yeah ain't nothing wrong with the little chubby ones 😂
IF ONLY I CAN CRAFT IT 😢😢😢😢
Literally everyone on the other team has a shotgun wth
Not taking my something new off
I definitely said Ewww after the first few shots.
Nah bro the roll has to be lone wolf and frenzy it melts in 6v6s it’s okay in comp
You never stopped being addicted. Stop the cap 😂
revision zero is bugged
Bro you’ve never not been addicted to destiny
wallahs sens hurts my eyes, lol
W gun
crispy
Having fun?? In Destiny 2??? Next week's TWID: EXUVIAE nerfed into the ground
> -100 airborne effectiveness (attempting to shoot this weapon in the air will just beaver you instantly)
> handling reduced to 2
> just use meta weapons again bro
I’m in love with wardens law right now. Should try back. Full bore, accurized, perpetual kill clip. 38 meter range 2 tap
It’s crusty tho 😂
WHAT it’s not crusty 😢
Skill issue
Basically just knock off ignous hammer adept
When have you not been addicted to destiny 😂
Nice
The gun is closer to your face
its always good to see that you need these clickbait titles
Wallah but sturmmmm
Oh "addicted again", yeah sure, not click bait at all.
Addicted again?! Brother all you do is play this game you are already addicted 😂
Aww man, they reskinned Trust. Dang it.
Day 585 of asking for drip explination
Dang have you really been spelling explanation wrong for almost two years?
@@Hugh_Jundies He is tallguy not smartguy....
@@Hugh_Jundiestrust me you don’t know the guy who were 700+ days asking for “Wallah 1v1 GoldExgle” bro...
@@MADOYSamazing
You can’t be tall and smart at the same time I got you my guy