Gustav Holst: Indra (1903)
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Gustav Holst (1874-1934): Indra, Symphonic Poem, op.13 H.66 (1903).
Ulster Orchestra diretta da JoAnn Falletta.
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Holst is still underrated, a unique and fascinating figure in English music
Agreed
Holst completed Indra while on holiday with his wife in Berlin. Holst music is supposed to portray Indra, the Hindu god of rain and storm, in a struggle with a dragon, Vrita, who causes a massive drought. In the end, Indra overcomes Vrita and the rain begins to fall.
Sarcastic comments made by Hubert Parry during the rehearsal of "Indra" upset Holst and the work was never publicly performed.(notes from an essay by Kenric Taylor) BRIAN
Speaking of Berlin, is it true that Germany 'discovered' Elgar?
Can any of the experts of this form of music help me understand the nuances of this piece.
@@arunram.curations This really is simply Holst's interpretation of the events described in "Indra." It is an English composer at his point in time and understanding interpreting through music as he understood it. "Indra" is not like Beethoven's 6th "Pastorale" Symphony or Vivaldi's "Four Seasons" where there are special notations from the composers as to what they are intending to communicate in various themes and movements. "Indra" is best enjoyed as pure music thus allowing the listener to hear what he/she wants to hear based upon what "Indra" is about. I hope this helps.
@@arunram.curations you don t need to understand anything. it s music
Silly Parry, Sparry
ホルストはまるで映画音楽だ！
そこが素晴らしい！
A perfect upload. The sound is forward and clear. Many thanks for uploading this treasure.
At least I've finally figured out where we get all of our hollywood, superhero music from..
And Richard Strauss -- the Superman love theme "owes" a lot to Tod und Verklarung. And, more subtly, the alien message in Close Encounters appears to be the opening notes of the Rosenkavalier final trio. But the Holst Mars was, I think, suggested in Star Wars because George Lucas made an advance cut of the film to it, making Williams go for a similar hammering rhythm.
DeGuillac Take a listen to rimsky korsakov‘s „Night before christmas“ piece (ruclips.net/video/k0vFOax7ZeU/видео.html) - i thought it sounded supermanny, my wife tended towards star trek..
you might want to check out Vaughan Williams, Malcolm Arnold, William Walton, Arthur Bliss, Elgar, William Alwyn, and a host of other English composers..including Eric Coates, who wrote one or two more "popular" tunes.....which you will DEFINITELY recognise. It`s a long tradition..
@@kieranryan6148 Yes! I have been savoring that piece since the '60s! RK is an unsung genius. So sad he suddenly died at 64, he was on the verge of what could have been his greatest work.
Superb! Holst was so amazingly prolific, and all those Planets get in the way of discovery of his output.
This might be the best piece of music that nobody knows about.
Brillante und wunderschöne Interpretation dieses fein komponierten Tongedichts mit farbenreichen und gut phrasierten Tönen aller Instrumente. Die geniale Dirigentin leitet das perfekt trainierte Orchester im inspirierenden Tempo und mit möglichst effektiver Dynamik. Wunderbar!
His music is heaven. Something so lovely and playful about even his more serious tones.
Start wars at his best. Genius in time. A master piece for the future generations.
This wonderful symphony was rather harshly critiqued by a prominent critic when this recording was published (being too incoherent apparently) . I'm glad others here in the comment section share my appreciation for Holst's symphonic works!
It’s no symphony but a symphonic piece. I like this piece very much!
beauty
I'm loving these weeks found out great songs from different composers
same here
Thanks for the very interesting upload! Holst's music is very seldom performed even in Britain... What a shame!... Shared on Google+
I'm getting ready for the works of Holst to be recognized more; they should be played and heard everywhere,
The language of this tone poem is quite original. It is a very interesting score, very well orchestrated
Great Piece! It would be a hit everywhere it would be played.
There are various explanations for why the orchestral music of Holst (beyond The Planets) was largely ignored in his lifetime, but I agree that a reappraisal is long overdo. The majority of his output needs to be scheduled, played and heard more often.
Outstanding.
Meraviglioso! Molto grazie!
Ted Wilks
Hi WatermanmcD....I've always thought that position goes to Wagner....lots of obvious inspiration there too!
Holst a complété Indra en vacances avec sa femme à Berlin. La musique de Holst est censée représenter Indra, le dieu hindou de la pluie et de la tempête, dans une lutte avec un dragon, Vrita, qui cause une sécheresse massive. En fin de compte, Indra surmonte Vrita et la pluie commence à tomber. Les commentaires sarcastiques faits par Hubert Parry lors de la répétition de "Indra" bouleversent Holst et l'œuvre n'a jamais été publiquement
exécutée (notes d'un essai de Kenric Taylor)
In fact, Indra of Vedic Aryans is not storm god (though he was made into so in later Hinduism and often confused) but the ultimate divine expression. He was venerated all over Eurasia in various names and forms. The first record for Indra comes from Mitanni in Syria. The "dragon" whom he fights is the symbol of lawlessness, called Vṛtra, and Vṛtra is not an "opponent", but is shown as someone who goes against the natural flow, Ṛta. (cognate with English "order") Indra as Vṛtrahan, Vrethraghan, Vahagn, was venerated all over prehistoric Eurasia, and his symbol of killing the obstacle against cosmic order was appropriated to dragon slaying of St. George into Christianity.
Splendid.
Nice.
thank you very much
thank you....:)
thank you
Gustav Holst:Indra-szimfonikus költemény Op.13
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Vezényel:JoAnn Faletta
What a superb piece - as someone noted in terms of the piece reminding them of John Adams there is a connection between much Holst and what we today call MIMIALISM - I wonder why this has not been more commonly noted???
Because what you're saying is complete nonsense. Holst's work is about as far from minimalism as you can get. What is in this piece that remotely resembles minimalism?
@@devindevonI couldn't possibly say, Devin. 😁
I wonder what his inspiration was for writing this lovely piece.
Holst's “Indian period” was brought about by reading Robert Watson Frazer's book of stories from Indian mythology, “Silent Gods and Sun-steeped Lands, which was published in 1895. Indra was Holst's earliest work using subject matter from that source. The work is a portrayal of the god Indra and his battle with the drought.
Oh Lord I thankyou! ;]
Thou Art Now the Blessed of The Lord
Could be channeling Richard Wagner IMHO.
Reminds me of John Adams’ “chairman dances”.
Is this photo of Erawan Elephant captured in Thailand?
The closest piece to his Planets.
Even closer to his huge Wagnerian opera Sita, which was never performed -- partly due to his awkward libretto.
I wonder if you, or anyone else knows where he got the association of "the magician" for the planet Uranus. I have looked everywhere but have never heard of Uranus being associated with "the magician" before. Maybe it comes from an Indian tradition (Indian astrology?) as he was deeply interested in Indian religion.
Katherine A. Budd When Holst gave the planets their characteristics in The Planets, it was to an extent related directly to astrology, but it was also simply what he thought about them. Hope that helps :3
There could be no Indian astrological tradition about Uranus because their astrologers didn't know it existed! It needed a telescope, and a relatively advanced one, and therefore it was only discovered in 1781 by the Englishman Herschel. Holst's assignment of characters to the Planets is influenced by the Vedas and other Sanskrit writings, but is just as much classical. Mercury, Venus, Mars are all as the Greeks or Romans saw them; Jupiter is "Jovial". Perhaps Uranus's classical character was too grim for him, and Neptune too remote from the sea.
I prefer "The Cloud Messenger" It's wonderful
I detect some similarity to "Neptune".
Now we know where some of the " Dark Horse' instrumentals came from in Katy Perry's song... Can you hear it?
Where can I find the score for this?
Grande compositore e grande brano sinfonico. Ma cos'è "Indra" per Holst??
Domenico Trentadue Indra is the God of Rain and storm
Domenico Trentadue In India
In fact, Indra of Vedic Aryans is not storm god (though he was made into so in later Hinduism and often confused) but the ultimate divine expression, who re-establishes cosmic order Ṛta (cognate with English "order", Avestan "aśa") after putting an end to the agents who work against He was venerated all over Eurasia in various names and forms. The first record for Indra comes from Mitanni in Syria. The "dragon" whom he fights is the symbol of lawlessness, called Vṛtra, and Vṛtra is not an "opponent", but is shown as someone who goes against the natural flow, Ṛta. When Vṛtra is drought, Indra brings rain. Indra as the killer of Vṛtra, the Vṛtrahan, Vrethraghan, Vahagn, was venerated all over prehistoric Eurasia, and his symbol of killing the obstacle against cosmic order was even appropriated to dragon slaying of St. George into Christianity.
Sounds like music of the spheres from that American composer
This sounds remarkably like the soundtrack of Superman, 1978. It could be that Mr. Williams borrowed from this great work, as "Superman" and Indra have somethings in common.
Indra and Superman have very little in common.
Indra is a God, Superman is a comic book character.
Indra is more like Greek Zeus, Roman Jupiter, German Odin, Baltic Perun, this are all in fact, different names refereeing to one same entity, the Sky Father God.
@@DurgeshYadav-ip1zr The wondering was whether Williams borrowed musically from this piece to score Superman, not if the fictional character Superman has anything in common with the equally fictional character Indra. And he does; both are fictional.
@@DaveDexterMusic He exists. Look around.
@@DurgeshYadav-ip1zr If we listen to the beginning theme of Superman, we can here some striking tones and cords similar to Holst's 1903 Indra. When I remarked that Superman and Indra had "somethings in common", I was suggesting that both behaved in similar fashion, not to compare their philosophical, religious or technical aspects. Fundamentally, "Superman" is like a god to humans, and is especially known for his flying and command of the sky, among other amazing powers. He is also known as a generous, open-minded cosmic being, who sees only humanity and not the social and racial divisions that humans have created for themselves, much to their own great suffering.
@@panther15zodiacgods47 the theme is similar to Superman's, yes.
But the entities are not similar at all, Superman like you said, is a godlike being capable of doing extraordinary things while Indra in Rigveda is simply 'God', the one and only, he is more than just God of lighting and thunder as most assume.
I am of course, discounting the fact that Superman is a comic book character.
This berthed children’s movie music
I think I may have unlocked the secret as to why this piece is never played. I am listening to it, and it is boring me to death.
Ouch
Ye Indra se match nahe hota ...ye music
Bilkul hota h
@@tchaivorakfauresohnsieg9532 nnHe hota bhai...may India se hoon...may undra ko behtar samajhta hoon ...aapke naam se lagta hay ..aap videsh k rehne wale hain ...