The brilliance of this film is that even when the Narrator tries to rebel against the conformist nature of society, he still ends up being a conformist himself when Project Mayhem is born. A truly timeless film.
@@SacredCASHcow we all are conformists. You think Palahniuk isn't a conformist? Look at the end of his story. How was the protag saved at the end? By having his grl friend show up. No answers beyond - ''get the grl'' Calling disenfranchised men ''Incels'' is not a non-conformist move
@@citycrusher9308 He isn’t really calling disenfranchised men “incels” but criticizing how those type of men get attached to violent subgroups that betray themselves
@@dennisrodmanburner7348 Yes he is. His solution was - ''get the gf'' and things will look up. The guys in Fight Club are single men. You have to read in between the lines
@@SacredCASHcow Tate and Palahniuk have one thing in common: They both hate men. Tate scams men. Palahniuk attacks men via the ''toxic masculinity'' trope
One of the best video essays you've made. It's amazing that after an entire generation has passed since this movie was made, the themes are more poignant now than ever. Men are dropping out of the labour force and college in record numbers, suicide and depression is near all time highs, if not there already, and being a man carries with it so many connotations that many men no longer know who they are.
Sorry Paprika, but I have to disagree. This is very paint-by-numbers non analysis. Pointing out men are disenfranchised without pointing the cause is B-paper at best
@@olzhas1one755 The cause is: Men want to get the ladies - Men need status to get the ladies - men can't get the status due to unemployment. Now you know
@@citycrusher9308 that's an incredible oversimplification, as well as an overgeneralization based in antiquated Freudian sensibilities. JustAnOb lies out pretty succinctly that, at least in the context of the film, an overbearing corporate environment and realignment in commoditized values is what is killing men. And personally speaking, I've never felt more shame of just being a man in 2023. You can't even watch 5 minutes worth of commercials without a stereotypical male bumbling around in an otherwise simple situation, or a male being the antagonist of sorts in whatever narrative these commercials are trying to sell. Not to mention the fact that masculinity itself is treated as toxic, just look at what James Cameron said last year. He said that testosterone is a poison that needs to be removed from men's bodies. I truly feel that a couple generations from now the zeitgeist will look back and realize how vilified men are today, and it's unfortunate that it's slipping under the radar of legacy media, because men are suffering. Rather than developing solutions to modern problems, it's just easier to make someone out to be the bad guy, and that's what's happening today
@@qjames0077 It isn't ''oversimplification''. It is just simplification. The ladies live in the exact same world the men do. They also live in a corporate environment. Yet they aren't suffering as the men do - do they? The answer is: Men want to get with w men while the gals don't feel the same way about men. So men need to bribe the girls and they don't have the means to achieve that bribe. So they stay single when they rather not.
Much like the other Edward Norton classic, American History X, Fight Club treats its audience with respect by presenting them with nuance. It makes the film's lessons so much more powerful when they're revealed through a sympathetic character who ends up doing horrible things rather than by lecturing the audience with heavy-handed messaging.
One of the last points the narrator makes in the videos is about the two sides of men,the good,obedient one who wants peace and stability and the reckless,rebelious one that wants to do something here and now in order to change things. I have been feeling like this for a really long time and I had never actually put it into words or have it explained by anyone in such a manner in order to understand it myself. Thank you sir for giving me some peace finally and to anyone who has read this far into my comment
Yeah i feel like that too. One side of me wants to make my prents proud and get good grades and never do anything out of the normal. The other part of me wanrs to just quit school and live in a forest or something. I just wanna get away from the position i am rn and idk what to do.
I feel exactly the same lmao. Maybe we should try to mix both but in a healthy way, trying not to hurt anyone. Kind of like a cowboy, who has moral standarts and protects his family but still explores and lives a adventurous lifestyle
What do you mean by "silent majority"? I am genuinely curious. (The "crisis of men" worries me.). You have used a term, coined as a campaign sound-bite by Richard Nixon, that is more than a little ambiguous. It's also a highly-charged term that could trigger someone to jump to an incorrect assumption. A writer should aspire to clarity and precision. Take the trouble to say what you mean.
This video deserves SO many more views; you’ve analyzed the movie with nuance, patience, and understanding, finding exactly the perfect way to relate it to the modern day, while also talking about its contemporary context, without being either judgmental or condescending in the process (as many seem to when talking about this movie). The fact that videos like this exist gives me so much hope in the world today, so thank you so much. Hats off to you, and here’s to many, many more views!
Literally just watched the movie for the first time last night. I was even looking for articles that explore the philosophy about and modern day connections to it. And here you post this. Mind blowing.
It really comes down to luck and what difficulty setting the universe has you on. I have a friend that I went to school with, we got similar degrees, got similar grades, but he got a job right out of school while I couldn't even get an interview. After a while he got promoted, headhunted by other companies and offered higher, better paying jobs, meanwhile I kept struggling to get anywhere. Success was pretty much laid out for him, as long as he showed up and did his job, it was smooth sailing. For me, no matter how much overtime I put in, how early I arrived, how late I stayed, or how much work I got done, obstacle after obstacle was put in my way. If you're like my friend, I understand why staying in your lane and being a part of society is appealing, but if the universe hates you, you learn to hate it right back.
I have a very different and yet strangely parallel experience in life. In my late 40s, I finally figured out that having ADHD makes an almost imperceptible difference, but leaves me out of step with other people in "ordinary" society. There's, like, a rhythm to the way people connect with one another that gets thrown off when someone's pace of learning, working, remembering details, even just connecting, is different. I've found myself not fitting in to the corporate world, gravitating instead toward neuro-divergent communities (like this whole world of nerdy over-analysis of films, for example) where others have similar experiences. Maybe that's the issue you're having as well. It may not be luck, it may be that you're on a different frequency from "normal" folk, and you just need to find your people.
@@rottensquid I can absolutely entertain that idea. I've had ADD my entire life and have never really fit in with society or its rules. I spend a lot of my time watching in depth breakdowns on films and cinematography, quantum physics, astrophysics, the mechanics of atomic and hydrogen bombs, and have taught myself coding and various 3D rendering software and game engines for fun. I have a weird sense of humor and often find myself feeling like I'm a different species from most people. So yeah, what you're saying resonates.
@@fuzzypanda1684 Same here. I recently lived with someone who's decidedly not ADD, and we just found we sucked at working together. I usually suck at working with people. They get frustrated or I get frustrated that we're never on the same page, and never able to sync up. But when I work with someone who I can sync up with, stuff I always think of as difficult becomes laughably easy. Last weekend I was camping with someone who's also ADD, and breaking down camp went so smooth and easy I wanted to cry. No bickering, just two people smoothly, patiently working out the best way to do things. It was weird. I think with non-ADD people, they plan out the steps and then do it. With ADD people, we figure it out as we go, because we know we're probably not going to understand it theoretically, only through experience. And I certainly can't memorize more than maybe two steps at a time. But when I dive into some project before a neurotypical knows what they're doing, they get frustrated. A lot of partners have called me "Charge Ahead Ted."
You sound like you have a sense of entitlement. Maybe your friend had drive. No point to put it in the universe, that’s what we do, we strive we struggle and then we die.
@@yareyaredaze9656 Entitlement is thinking you deserve things for doing nothing. Expecting a have a good career after going to school, getting good grades and a good degree, then busting your butt trying to get your foot in the door is not entitlement. As for my friend, I was more driven than he was. He'd tell you the same. We talked about it out of school and he said that he thought I'd go farther than him because all I cared about was career and money, whereas he cared more about starting a family and enjoying life.
Fight Club literally predicted Andrew Tate and the pickup artist community who prey on disenfranchised men. That fact will make it relevant for years to come and important. It was ahead of its time.
I think there's a big difference though, even though there are similarities too. Tyler Durden's philosophy is a total rejection of consumerism. He and his cult deliberately live in squalor. They eschew modern comforts and only make enough money to live a very spartan life because they're ultimately only interested in spiritual and not material goals. The guys he recruits (as exemplified by the narrator) weren't struggling financially or feeling stressed because of the pressures of the world. They had comfortable jobs and lives and could buy the things they wanted, but they knew this left them still feeling hollow and unfulfilled which is why they were lured to the fight club. Guys like Tate and the redpill community though are almost the opposite. They completely glorify consumerism and conspicuous consumption. That's basically treated as the end goal. You'll never see one of these guys selling their snake oil from a dank dingy house or apartment. They don't want the anarchistic society Durden tries to create, they like having hierarchies and being above than others, they just sell it that by listening to them, YOU will be the one who is on the top of the heap.
@@krombopulos_michael Oh definitely, the approaches towards materialism and consumerism are completely opposite lol . But it's the appeal to disenfranchised men and drawing them into hyper masculinity cults that is frighteningly similar.
Predicted? It was already happening at that time. None of this is new. Fight Club wasn’t meant to prophetic.. it was representational. It was showing what already existed at the time of it creation. What we are experiencing now is just proof it still hasn’t changed for young nor the old. It still is.
@@krombopulos_michael they are both cults, that are brainwashed by fanatic narcissists who pray on men with a weak sence of masculinity. And they are easy to exploit because society as a whole are mostly exploiting the same weakness. Don Draper say it in Mad Men, that most humans are desperat to find somebody they can follow blindly ( to escape the burden of responsibility for our own choises, in a caotic world full of randomness)
those who see the glass half full would say "prey" but those who see it the other way would say hope. Andrew Tate like Tyler Durden is the modern archetypal man.
When i was 15, Fight Club, American Beauty, and The Beach all released within 6 months of each other and looking back I think that heavily influenced my world view and how I feel about what life should truly be about
Wow that was really good, this clarified so much of what's happening today and helped me reflect on my life. The source of all the problems is that so many people are feeling empty, unhappy and lost in this consumeristic corporate society. People have a spirit and a soul that needs things that the current materialistic system cannot provide. Also city life sucks ass.
i watched the film a week ago to see what the hype was about and my god, its easily one of my favorites now. i can see why its considered a timeless classic. great vid btw.
One of the best movies I've ever seen when watching it the first time back in November. So many deep themes within Fight Club. One notably is nihilism and understanding Joker's mindset
I can remember sneaking into the theatre to watch this. I instantly fell in love with Fight Club. It's sad they didn't produce the sequels there is much more to Tyler Durden than the original film. I won't posts spoilers but the fact that Fight Club connected lost men to a cause was an excellent observation. One that I should have taken to heart when I originally saw the film. Now as a middle aged man I can say that most of my mistakes along the way corollate to this very premise. If there are younger men out there reading this invest your energy and time into something tangible. Not the superficial.
Wow. I’m almost speechless. Brilliant observations. And the movie, already my favorite all time, is even further elevated by them. Bravo. That’s the word. Ok I wasn’t actually speechless.
GREAT OBSERVATION! Superb comparison in today's age! Brilliant references of today's people! I love this film and love how you analyze it different to others! SUBBED SIR! =D
This take is the best explanation of what’s happening with young men I have ever watched or read. Seriously. I’m going to have my therapist wife watch this to better understand some of the things coming up in sessions with her patients.
Agreed. Filmento is severely underrated and gets way too much hate just based on his thumbnails. The content of his videos and how he deconstructs different aspects to a narratives success/failure is brilliant.
Great video, and always loved this film. However, my constant distrust of groups and the individual motives within them keep me on my own path away from the notion of staring at a screen all day to live in a box. But this comes from forging a path for myself that I've yet to allow even myself to walk because it is not yet time, but that time draws near and I'm constantly excited by not having to set that alarm anymore.
Wow. Really well done. Most people that do commentary on this stuff just way too interested in themselves. You really had a very interesting Point and presented the writing and edited it together with the author so well i subscribed .
This is honestly the way I have seen the film it isn't about (at least to me) the fall of masculinity or men being brought down by consumerism or yada yada, although those themes are very much there, but I always saw it as a warning. What I mean is in an uncertain world where meaning is seeming to be lacking we search for it and it could lead us into the unwelcome arms of someone like Tyler. There are always people in this world who will lead you astray from who you are and take advantage of you, weaponize you for their own purposes especially if your vulnerable, and in this period we are especially vulnerable
Ultimately Tyler was an accelerationist. The reason he had no problem watching the world burn is bc he thought it was inevitable anyway. His goal was to speed that process up and he did that by "enlightening" others. The reason he was so effective is bc he was never completely wrong about that.
There are a lot of ways one could look at this film. But coming from a man's perspective it still holds up as one of if not the most important films about and for men. Bottom line, as a man in this life, you're gonna go through a lot of hard things. As past generations was a physical struggle, ours is a mental one. A battle for the mind and soul. It's only when you let go and realize instead of resisting those hard things in life and trying to pretend like they're not there, but be fully present in that discomfort, where you as a man truly find some form of well deserved triumphant peace.
I've finally watched this after having it in my watch later for the last couple of weeks. I'm sorry it took so long. What a great analysis. Us men are really going through it right now. It's amazing to me that things like this movie or Marvin Gaye's What's Going On or pretty much any Rage Against the Machine were supposed to become less relevant with time, not more.
I watched Fightclub nearly 16 years ago for the first time and since then I was captivated by the anger it depicts toward the dominant system. But this video essay for the first time opend a new prospective for me. I guess I should watch it again with fresh eyes
I always laugh when I think of this film. So the main character basically gets a ton of minions because of fight club. But when the first few guys joined, they supposedly saw Tyler fighting Norton's character and wanted to "join". But we know they were always the same person, so basically a bunch of guys joined fight club because they saw an insane person punching himself in the face.
@@drlca6601 The end of the film shows the unreliable narrator, that was the twist. He was literally fighting himself. People overlook it, but it is a HUGE plothole as to why anyone would follow "Tyler" initially from that fight. The guy was punching himself. LOL
Im 33 and I barely watched this movie for the first time a couple months ago, I had no idea it was so insightful and deep. Also, since watching the movie I haven't stopped listening to Where Is My Mind by the Pixies.
Mr Robot pays tribute to the book/film also if you're looking for something more recent :) cyberpunk in all but name. I am Jack's ruclips.net/video/Tr4imnT8oKE/видео.html
The best and worst thing about this film is that is does such a great job showing why men follow Tyler that many miss the point that it's a cautionary tale. How society can inadvertently push people in a way where enigmatic leaders who take advantage of the wayward (and pander to their feelings) can create really dangerous idealogies and groups. Tyler is a fascist, Project Mayhem literally has them become skin heads and the narrator ends up needing to stop Tyler. There are many other clear themes and aspects to show this but it gets lost to many; critics and those praising Tyler. It's the Scorsese issue: where you need to show what makes the actions enticing or influences the characters, but you do it too well and all the negatives are completely ignored. It's one of my favorite films of all time that only gets better with each watch but it's very misunderstood in pop culture. I also am not speculating this, read and watch interviews and the people who made it are very left. It's a timeless movie that never loses relevance because we will never have a perfect world where people cannot be influenced by those with negative intentions. But on a personal interpretation, I don't even think it's a film about masculinity; the original book is but not the film. I think it's just the theme used for the larger point. There will always be people who feel the world has taken from them the things they rightfully believe they deserve and blame everyone else on the woes. Masculinity and misunderstanding it are just one way, and a common one for fringe groups to focus on.
I think it's about masculinity, but toxic masculinity specifically. Fighting for the sake of fighting. No desire to build or protect, just to destroy with no plan afterwards. It's a supposed enlightenment through violence, not education. It's basically the worst parts of masculinity on display.
My personal definition of being a man is not following anyone; you pick up what you agree with and leave the rest. People are way too flawed to idolize; so I've never understood the groups, cults, movements. You make your own value judgments and find your own way. It's not about getting women, it's not about having money or power - it's about not being someone's pawn. This is NOT saying be a selfish prick who never makes sacrifices or compromises; it's saying be your own person.
Individualistic thinking and conformity are both flawed and both necessary. Change doesn't come against a popular conformity by many individuals thinking the same thing. Power comes from influence (indirect) or force (direct), none of which any one man can gain by himself over a society. There are figureheads but the power is by group. Very few groups are cults of personality where they are following because of the person. Most are the value system that unites people. You can say your freedom is your power. What about when change needs to happen for you to be free?
this video gave me the motivation to finally close the computer and focus on myself and my life in my small world right now. social media makes us feel useless like we can't change anything and like nothing is ever going to go our way because everyone else is controlling everything out of our hands. but thats simply not true...
The older Ive gotten the more I think that its not about fighting the system. Its more about going another direction from that system. Always defend yourself but hey instead of blowing up buildings, I think some acreage out in the country is a better investment. The companies who own that building can make a million more. Put your time into something that'll actually be worth while.
Thanks for the vid! 3:50 - Any reports etc showing this dearth of jobs for educated individuals, and specifically how this is a modern problem? Thanks again!
this movie explores a classic dilemma of life. We're so necessarily interconnected, yet so fiercely individualistic. It's an inescapable yin and yang without a simple solution. But neither extreme is correct. It's the continued timeless struggle of our species, and I think the story does a good job of exploring this in an entertaining and thought-provoking manner. The solution isn't to become a soulless absorbed automaton, nor is to burn it all to the ground.
It's not a simple solution because it's a customizable solution. What works for me won't work for you. I like to go camping alone and for the weekend, just let everything primal out, howl at the moon and be a caveman. It keeps me in touch with the wild within and then I can go back to civilization feeling refreshed and maybe a little more werewolf but in a healthy way.
watching this beautiful crafted masterpiece about materialism and then an ad pops up😂 not ur fault this my fav channel id watch 20 ads to see one of ur vids
The brilliance of this film is that even when the Narrator tries to rebel against the conformist nature of society, he still ends up being a conformist himself when Project Mayhem is born. A truly timeless film.
Palahniuk disgusts me. He is hostile to other men and his film is an attack on men.
@@SacredCASHcow we all are conformists. You think Palahniuk isn't a conformist? Look at the end of his story. How was the protag saved at the end? By having his grl friend show up. No answers beyond - ''get the grl''
Calling disenfranchised men ''Incels'' is not a non-conformist move
@@citycrusher9308 He isn’t really calling disenfranchised men “incels” but criticizing how those type of men get attached to violent subgroups that betray themselves
@@dennisrodmanburner7348 Yes he is. His solution was - ''get the gf'' and things will look up. The guys in Fight Club are single men. You have to read in between the lines
@@SacredCASHcow Tate and Palahniuk have one thing in common: They both hate men.
Tate scams men. Palahniuk attacks men via the ''toxic masculinity'' trope
One of the best video essays you've made.
It's amazing that after an entire generation has passed since this movie was made, the themes are more poignant now than ever.
Men are dropping out of the labour force and college in record numbers, suicide and depression is near all time highs, if not there already, and being a man carries with it so many connotations that many men no longer know who they are.
Sorry Paprika, but I have to disagree. This is very paint-by-numbers non analysis. Pointing out men are disenfranchised without pointing the cause is B-paper at best
@@citycrusher9308 Pointing to the cause could get you into trouble. Serious trouble.
@@olzhas1one755 The cause is: Men want to get the ladies - Men need status to get the ladies - men can't get the status due to unemployment.
Now you know
@@citycrusher9308 that's an incredible oversimplification, as well as an overgeneralization based in antiquated Freudian sensibilities.
JustAnOb lies out pretty succinctly that, at least in the context of the film, an overbearing corporate environment and realignment in commoditized values is what is killing men.
And personally speaking, I've never felt more shame of just being a man in 2023. You can't even watch 5 minutes worth of commercials without a stereotypical male bumbling around in an otherwise simple situation, or a male being the antagonist of sorts in whatever narrative these commercials are trying to sell. Not to mention the fact that masculinity itself is treated as toxic, just look at what James Cameron said last year. He said that testosterone is a poison that needs to be removed from men's bodies.
I truly feel that a couple generations from now the zeitgeist will look back and realize how vilified men are today, and it's unfortunate that it's slipping under the radar of legacy media, because men are suffering. Rather than developing solutions to modern problems, it's just easier to make someone out to be the bad guy, and that's what's happening today
@@qjames0077 It isn't ''oversimplification''. It is just simplification.
The ladies live in the exact same world the men do. They also live in a corporate environment. Yet they aren't suffering as the men do - do they?
The answer is: Men want to get with w men while the gals don't feel the same way about men. So men need to bribe the girls and they don't have the means to achieve that bribe. So they stay single when they rather not.
This is one of the best, accurate, and analytical video essays I have ever seen, goddamn well done.
Much like the other Edward Norton classic, American History X, Fight Club treats its audience with respect by presenting them with nuance. It makes the film's lessons so much more powerful when they're revealed through a sympathetic character who ends up doing horrible things rather than by lecturing the audience with heavy-handed messaging.
I am Jack's supportive comment
One of the last points the narrator makes in the videos is about the two sides of men,the good,obedient one who wants peace and stability and the reckless,rebelious one that wants to do something here and now in order to change things. I have been feeling like this for a really long time and I had never actually put it into words or have it explained by anyone in such a manner in order to understand it myself. Thank you sir for giving me some peace finally and to anyone who has read this far into my comment
Yeah i feel like that too. One side of me wants to make my prents proud and get good grades and never do anything out of the normal. The other part of me wanrs to just quit school and live in a forest or something. I just wanna get away from the position i am rn and idk what to do.
I feel exactly the same lmao. Maybe we should try to mix both but in a healthy way, trying not to hurt anyone. Kind of like a cowboy, who has moral standarts and protects his family but still explores and lives a adventurous lifestyle
please keep making these. There's nothing like this on this platform but there's so much demand in the silent majority.
the silent majority agrees with you
I am Jack's silent demand.
@@yaqubebased1961i am jack’s lack of disagreement
What do you mean by "silent majority"? I am genuinely curious. (The "crisis of men" worries me.). You have used a term, coined as a campaign sound-bite by Richard Nixon, that is more than a little ambiguous. It's also a highly-charged term that could trigger someone to jump to an incorrect assumption.
A writer should aspire to clarity and precision. Take the trouble to say what you mean.
This video deserves SO many more views; you’ve analyzed the movie with nuance, patience, and understanding, finding exactly the perfect way to relate it to the modern day, while also talking about its contemporary context, without being either judgmental or condescending in the process (as many seem to when talking about this movie). The fact that videos like this exist gives me so much hope in the world today, so thank you so much. Hats off to you, and here’s to many, many more views!
Literally just watched the movie for the first time last night. I was even looking for articles that explore the philosophy about and modern day connections to it. And here you post this. Mind blowing.
I think it is one of the greatest films of the 20th century.
It really comes down to luck and what difficulty setting the universe has you on. I have a friend that I went to school with, we got similar degrees, got similar grades, but he got a job right out of school while I couldn't even get an interview. After a while he got promoted, headhunted by other companies and offered higher, better paying jobs, meanwhile I kept struggling to get anywhere.
Success was pretty much laid out for him, as long as he showed up and did his job, it was smooth sailing. For me, no matter how much overtime I put in, how early I arrived, how late I stayed, or how much work I got done, obstacle after obstacle was put in my way.
If you're like my friend, I understand why staying in your lane and being a part of society is appealing, but if the universe hates you, you learn to hate it right back.
I have a very different and yet strangely parallel experience in life. In my late 40s, I finally figured out that having ADHD makes an almost imperceptible difference, but leaves me out of step with other people in "ordinary" society. There's, like, a rhythm to the way people connect with one another that gets thrown off when someone's pace of learning, working, remembering details, even just connecting, is different. I've found myself not fitting in to the corporate world, gravitating instead toward neuro-divergent communities (like this whole world of nerdy over-analysis of films, for example) where others have similar experiences. Maybe that's the issue you're having as well. It may not be luck, it may be that you're on a different frequency from "normal" folk, and you just need to find your people.
@@rottensquid I can absolutely entertain that idea. I've had ADD my entire life and have never really fit in with society or its rules. I spend a lot of my time watching in depth breakdowns on films and cinematography, quantum physics, astrophysics, the mechanics of atomic and hydrogen bombs, and have taught myself coding and various 3D rendering software and game engines for fun.
I have a weird sense of humor and often find myself feeling like I'm a different species from most people. So yeah, what you're saying resonates.
@@fuzzypanda1684 Same here. I recently lived with someone who's decidedly not ADD, and we just found we sucked at working together. I usually suck at working with people. They get frustrated or I get frustrated that we're never on the same page, and never able to sync up. But when I work with someone who I can sync up with, stuff I always think of as difficult becomes laughably easy.
Last weekend I was camping with someone who's also ADD, and breaking down camp went so smooth and easy I wanted to cry. No bickering, just two people smoothly, patiently working out the best way to do things. It was weird. I think with non-ADD people, they plan out the steps and then do it. With ADD people, we figure it out as we go, because we know we're probably not going to understand it theoretically, only through experience. And I certainly can't memorize more than maybe two steps at a time. But when I dive into some project before a neurotypical knows what they're doing, they get frustrated. A lot of partners have called me "Charge Ahead Ted."
You sound like you have a sense of entitlement. Maybe your friend had drive. No point to put it in the universe, that’s what we do, we strive we struggle and then we die.
@@yareyaredaze9656 Entitlement is thinking you deserve things for doing nothing. Expecting a have a good career after going to school, getting good grades and a good degree, then busting your butt trying to get your foot in the door is not entitlement.
As for my friend, I was more driven than he was. He'd tell you the same. We talked about it out of school and he said that he thought I'd go farther than him because all I cared about was career and money, whereas he cared more about starting a family and enjoying life.
Fight Club literally predicted Andrew Tate and the pickup artist community who prey on disenfranchised men. That fact will make it relevant for years to come and important.
It was ahead of its time.
I think there's a big difference though, even though there are similarities too. Tyler Durden's philosophy is a total rejection of consumerism. He and his cult deliberately live in squalor. They eschew modern comforts and only make enough money to live a very spartan life because they're ultimately only interested in spiritual and not material goals. The guys he recruits (as exemplified by the narrator) weren't struggling financially or feeling stressed because of the pressures of the world. They had comfortable jobs and lives and could buy the things they wanted, but they knew this left them still feeling hollow and unfulfilled which is why they were lured to the fight club.
Guys like Tate and the redpill community though are almost the opposite. They completely glorify consumerism and conspicuous consumption. That's basically treated as the end goal. You'll never see one of these guys selling their snake oil from a dank dingy house or apartment. They don't want the anarchistic society Durden tries to create, they like having hierarchies and being above than others, they just sell it that by listening to them, YOU will be the one who is on the top of the heap.
@@krombopulos_michael Oh definitely, the approaches towards materialism and consumerism are completely opposite lol . But it's the appeal to disenfranchised men and drawing them into hyper masculinity cults that is frighteningly similar.
Predicted? It was already happening at that time. None of this is new. Fight Club wasn’t meant to prophetic.. it was representational. It was showing what already existed at the time of it creation. What we are experiencing now is just proof it still hasn’t changed for young nor the old. It still is.
@@krombopulos_michael they are both cults, that are brainwashed by fanatic narcissists who pray on men with a weak sence of masculinity. And they are easy to exploit because society as a whole are mostly exploiting the same weakness. Don Draper say it in Mad Men, that most humans are desperat to find somebody they can follow blindly ( to escape the burden of responsibility for our own choises, in a caotic world full of randomness)
those who see the glass half full would say "prey" but those who see it the other way would say hope. Andrew Tate like Tyler Durden is the modern archetypal man.
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When i was 15, Fight Club, American Beauty, and The Beach all released within 6 months of each other and looking back I think that heavily influenced my world view and how I feel about what life should truly be about
The beach is underrated gold that I don’t think gets discussed enough and heavily influenced me as well
Could watch anyone of those three films at anytime!
I've seen probably all of the video essays on Fight Club. This is by far the most accurate, valuable, and essential.
Wow that was really good, this clarified so much of what's happening today and helped me reflect on my life. The source of all the problems is that so many people are feeling empty, unhappy and lost in this consumeristic corporate society. People have a spirit and a soul that needs things that the current materialistic system cannot provide. Also city life sucks ass.
which city? I agree but living out in the stix is much more difficult
Being a declawed and defanged lion is so much worse than being just a sheep.
Love the deep dives into all these characters. So many movies with no story or depth, bad vs good. Love the ones who make you actually think
i watched the film a week ago to see what the hype was about and my god, its easily one of my favorites now. i can see why its considered a timeless classic.
great vid btw.
Watch America Psycho. if you haven't already?
One of the best movies I've ever seen when watching it the first time back in November. So many deep themes within Fight Club. One notably is nihilism and understanding Joker's mindset
One of the best film essays I’ve seen
While watching this essay I get commercials in between, oh sweet irony... 🙄 Love the essay by the way!!!! 🙌🙏😍
One of the best film analysis channels on RUclips. Thank you and I appropriate the work it takes to do these videos. Keep them coming 👍🏾
Absolutely brilliant analysis and video
I think this Analysis its you're best one yet.
every single one is awesome.
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I can remember sneaking into the theatre to watch this. I instantly fell in love with Fight Club. It's sad they didn't produce the sequels there is much more to Tyler Durden than the original film. I won't posts spoilers but the fact that Fight Club connected lost men to a cause was an excellent observation. One that I should have taken to heart when I originally saw the film. Now as a middle aged man I can say that most of my mistakes along the way corollate to this very premise. If there are younger men out there reading this invest your energy and time into something tangible. Not the superficial.
Its 2023 and it’s crazy how relevant, if not more relevant than ever this movie and it’s themes on masculinity are.
Wow. I’m almost speechless. Brilliant observations. And the movie, already my favorite all time, is even further elevated by them. Bravo. That’s the word. Ok I wasn’t actually speechless.
Legend.. this really resonated… who would have thoughts a movie analysis would give such an accurate critique of the state of the world.
friggin' fantastic analysis!! keep up the good work!
It’s kind of scary how accurate the analysis is
GREAT OBSERVATION!
Superb comparison in today's age!
Brilliant references of today's people!
I love this film and love how you analyze it different to others!
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Excellent analysis. Well done!
This take is the best explanation of what’s happening with young men I have ever watched or read. Seriously. I’m going to have my therapist wife watch this to better understand some of the things coming up in sessions with her patients.
This guy and filmento are some of the best critics on youtube
Agreed. Filmento is severely underrated and gets way too much hate just based on his thumbnails.
The content of his videos and how he deconstructs different aspects to a narratives success/failure is brilliant.
@@Onezy05 I love filmento thumbnails 🤣🤣
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This movie is and always will be one of my favourite movies out there
This spoke to me on so many levels. Thank you for such a thought inducing video.
wow phenomenal breakdown, your ability to write never ceases to amaze me
great video
great linkup between movies, people's mood and the connection between all of that to chaos.
looking forward to more videos like this.
... Damn, this video makes a scary amount of good points. This examination truly lives up to the quality of the source that inspired it.
This video is a masterpiece, I just know I will rewatch it many other times, even though I have seen it 4 times already
this is one of the best video essays i've ever seen. keep up the good work bro you're an inspiration
Just brilliant brother. 💫💫
Incredible video man, such a thorough and well argued narrative.
Finaly someone explains the strong reactions I had as a teenager, an adolescent and an adult to this film.
Your videos are Art
Great video, and always loved this film. However, my constant distrust of groups and the individual motives within them keep me on my own path away from the notion of staring at a screen all day to live in a box. But this comes from forging a path for myself that I've yet to allow even myself to walk because it is not yet time, but that time draws near and I'm constantly excited by not having to set that alarm anymore.
Wow. Really well done. Most people that do commentary on this stuff just way too interested in themselves. You really had a very interesting Point and presented the writing and edited it together with the author so well i subscribed .
The analysis in this video is a masterpiece
This was an absolutely wonderfully constructed and articulated video. Very well done sir.
This film will live on forever.
Echoing everybody else here - well done on this video! Keep up the great work. Happy to be supporting you :)
This is honestly the way I have seen the film it isn't about (at least to me) the fall of masculinity or men being brought down by consumerism or yada yada, although those themes are very much there, but I always saw it as a warning. What I mean is in an uncertain world where meaning is seeming to be lacking we search for it and it could lead us into the unwelcome arms of someone like Tyler. There are always people in this world who will lead you astray from who you are and take advantage of you, weaponize you for their own purposes especially if your vulnerable, and in this period we are especially vulnerable
Amazing and well thought out video.
Excellent analysis!!!!!
Ultimately Tyler was an accelerationist.
The reason he had no problem watching the world burn is bc he thought it was inevitable anyway.
His goal was to speed that process up and he did that by "enlightening" others.
The reason he was so effective is bc he was never completely wrong about that.
So basically Nietzsche
This needs more views. God damn.
There are a lot of ways one could look at this film. But coming from a man's perspective it still holds up as one of if not the most important films about and for men. Bottom line, as a man in this life, you're gonna go through a lot of hard things. As past generations was a physical struggle, ours is a mental one. A battle for the mind and soul. It's only when you let go and realize instead of resisting those hard things in life and trying to pretend like they're not there, but be fully present in that discomfort, where you as a man truly find some form of well deserved triumphant peace.
So, yes revolt or no revolt?
@@ArgonNoble Oh 1000% there's gonna be a revolt. It's already on the horizon. More and more young men are starting to wake up.
"be fully present in that discomfort, where you as a man truly find some form of well deserved triumphant peace."
What does that mean really?
@@FlorianCalmer I think he's talking about going through suffering to do something that will create meaning in your life.
Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives
Great analysis
I've finally watched this after having it in my watch later for the last couple of weeks. I'm sorry it took so long. What a great analysis. Us men are really going through it right now. It's amazing to me that things like this movie or Marvin Gaye's What's Going On or pretty much any Rage Against the Machine were supposed to become less relevant with time, not more.
I watched Fightclub nearly 16 years ago for the first time and since then I was captivated by the anger it depicts toward the dominant system. But this video essay for the first time opend a new prospective for me. I guess I should watch it again with fresh eyes
I always laugh when I think of this film. So the main character basically gets a ton of minions because of fight club. But when the first few guys joined, they supposedly saw Tyler fighting Norton's character and wanted to "join". But we know they were always the same person, so basically a bunch of guys joined fight club because they saw an insane person punching himself in the face.
well maybe, but there's also the case of the unreliable narrator or in the case of film, unreliable perspective.
@@drlca6601 The end of the film shows the unreliable narrator, that was the twist. He was literally fighting himself. People overlook it, but it is a HUGE plothole as to why anyone would follow "Tyler" initially from that fight. The guy was punching himself. LOL
@@bobross1829simple, they wanted to beat up a crazy person for fun. I dont think any of them were expecting him to fight back
Im 33 and I barely watched this movie for the first time a couple months ago, I had no idea it was so insightful and deep. Also, since watching the movie I haven't stopped listening to Where Is My Mind by the Pixies.
Mr Robot pays tribute to the book/film also if you're looking for something more recent :) cyberpunk in all but name.
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You reminded me why I love Tyler so much
I am so thankful for this video, especially with how comfortable some people are to celebrate their hatred of men
I really enjoyed this video, thank you
One of the best deconstructions I've seen for this film. Very intelligent and well thought out
The film is more relevant today in 2023 than in 1999
Great work as always
Your video analisis are just amazing
The best and worst thing about this film is that is does such a great job showing why men follow Tyler that many miss the point that it's a cautionary tale.
How society can inadvertently push people in a way where enigmatic leaders who take advantage of the wayward (and pander to their feelings) can create really dangerous idealogies and groups.
Tyler is a fascist, Project Mayhem literally has them become skin heads and the narrator ends up needing to stop Tyler. There are many other clear themes and aspects to show this but it gets lost to many; critics and those praising Tyler.
It's the Scorsese issue: where you need to show what makes the actions enticing or influences the characters, but you do it too well and all the negatives are completely ignored.
It's one of my favorite films of all time that only gets better with each watch but it's very misunderstood in pop culture. I also am not speculating this, read and watch interviews and the people who made it are very left.
It's a timeless movie that never loses relevance because we will never have a perfect world where people cannot be influenced by those with negative intentions.
But on a personal interpretation, I don't even think it's a film about masculinity; the original book is but not the film. I think it's just the theme used for the larger point.
There will always be people who feel the world has taken from them the things they rightfully believe they deserve and blame everyone else on the woes. Masculinity and misunderstanding it are just one way, and a common one for fringe groups to focus on.
I think it's about masculinity, but toxic masculinity specifically. Fighting for the sake of fighting. No desire to build or protect, just to destroy with no plan afterwards. It's a supposed enlightenment through violence, not education. It's basically the worst parts of masculinity on display.
This is one of the best analysis I seen on a while
Great Film, Great Analysis, I love you channel keep up the great work.
This Movie along with the movie "Gattica" (Eathan Hawk) - That's the best recipe for us MEN finding our value and how hard we work at it.
This went alot deeper than expected
So much better than moons analysis
Amazing Video. Love your take on the movie.
great video, writing, themes. bravo!
My personal definition of being a man is not following anyone; you pick up what you agree with and leave the rest. People are way too flawed to idolize; so I've never understood the groups, cults, movements. You make your own value judgments and find your own way. It's not about getting women, it's not about having money or power - it's about not being someone's pawn. This is NOT saying be a selfish prick who never makes sacrifices or compromises; it's saying be your own person.
Individualistic thinking and conformity are both flawed and both necessary. Change doesn't come against a popular conformity by many individuals thinking the same thing. Power comes from influence (indirect) or force (direct), none of which any one man can gain by himself over a society. There are figureheads but the power is by group. Very few groups are cults of personality where they are following because of the person. Most are the value system that unites people. You can say your freedom is your power. What about when change needs to happen for you to be free?
Excellent video, I must give this “fight club” a watch
Do it.
this video gave me the motivation to finally close the computer and focus on myself and my life in my small world right now. social media makes us feel useless like we can't change anything and like nothing is ever going to go our way because everyone else is controlling everything out of our hands. but thats simply not true...
"We Are A By-Product Of A Lifestyle Obsession"
This video needs more views
The older Ive gotten the more I think that its not about fighting the system. Its more about going another direction from that system. Always defend yourself but hey instead of blowing up buildings, I think some acreage out in the country is a better investment. The companies who own that building can make a million more. Put your time into something that'll actually be worth while.
In Tyler We Trust.
Thanks for the vid! 3:50 - Any reports etc showing this dearth of jobs for educated individuals, and specifically how this is a modern problem? Thanks again!
this movie explores a classic dilemma of life. We're so necessarily interconnected, yet so fiercely individualistic. It's an inescapable yin and yang without a simple solution. But neither extreme is correct. It's the continued timeless struggle of our species, and I think the story does a good job of exploring this in an entertaining and thought-provoking manner. The solution isn't to become a soulless absorbed automaton, nor is to burn it all to the ground.
It's not a simple solution because it's a customizable solution. What works for me won't work for you. I like to go camping alone and for the weekend, just let everything primal out, howl at the moon and be a caveman. It keeps me in touch with the wild within and then I can go back to civilization feeling refreshed and maybe a little more werewolf but in a healthy way.
Thank you brother. Great video and analysis of the masterpiece that is Fight Club
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best video on youtube ever.
Thanks for your videos
watching this beautiful crafted masterpiece about materialism and then an ad pops up😂 not ur fault this my fav channel id watch 20 ads to see one of ur vids
Very well done. A+
Glad I stumbled upon this
This movie is a straight up 10/10 man.
Stunning
This was great. Well done. 🙂
great analysis
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Excellent analysis