Best Built RV EVER! INSANE SOLAR and Batteries! Living Vehicle HD30 Pro
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2023
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I have been looking at LV since their first model. I wish I was in the tax bracket to buy one. I love what they have created and how they continue to evolve. Simply amazing and second to none.
Thank you for following our journey over the years. Lots of exciting developments in the works!
Agreed!
💯👍🏼 LOVE the LV. 💚
*What blew me away* was the price.
Heat pump technology is the best thing that ever happened to home heating and cooling. I'd like to see more rv manufacturers use it.
Tough for most manufacturers to use this as a single zone that operates off 120 isn’t quite enough and will ultimately heat or cool only one side of the unit. You really need a 240 V system with multiple zones like we have a Living Vehicle. The power needs of that type of system to allow for regular use both on and off grid is quite complex and expensive for manufacturers that optimize for price. that being said, I agree with you it is an absolute game changer that completely elevates the efficiency of the HVAC system.
These trailers are literally works of art.
And they are functional, too!
The main thing wrong with the LV is no soft closing drawers and cabinets. I don't think if I spend $800 on a camper, no matter how perfect, I should get those loud, banging drawers and cabinets. They say I can close them slowly and then softly but I shouldn't have to train every guest I have over on how to shut the drawers and cabinets slowly so they don't wake me up in the morning. It's ridiculous that Mathew can't figure this out. Everything is perfect! You just have to do that for us. Love everything else about LV and the team!
Another great feature is the fact that there are no holes in the roof for vent fans, AC's, satellite dishes, or any of the other rooftop appliances that you typically see on large travel trailers and fifth wheels.
Right?! Don’t give water a chance to get in. Plus it allows for those solar panels to fill the whole area, tho this video showed one where the coverage wasn’t 100%
These builders thought of everything and provide at least one solution.
The price is surprising but then you see the quality and all the options and it makes sense!
That's the nicest Snap-on toolbox I've ever seen! $700,000 makes sense with that name brand.
This price point even put snap-on to shame 😆. But a little red and you couldn't tell the difference.
@@anthonyreith7056If you bought enough boxes to make that many compartments you’d probably be pretty close
Nice unit, if a person or persons want to go off grid and set it up this would be the unit to get, these are just amazing.
Badass unit! I'd be all aboard if money weren't the issue! Well done, well built, and great options!
It's "high end" too.
Holy cow. What an amazing product!
Love the wood accents. The aluminum construction makes it durable but the wood gives some warmth so it feels almost like a home.
If I had money, I'll buy a waterfront property or something with a great view to the mountains and park it thete.
I'll built the minimum infrastructure to be completely off grid like a water well and a septic tank (additional bathroom and showers) and have it as a vacation home. Instead of going to all the tribulations of building a new house, I'll just get one of these.
Clever idea the movable kitchen island.
I would live on that patio happily ever after.
Love the redundancy and accessibility of the systems if repairs are needed.
So freaking cool! The only thing I don’t like is my own finances 😂
So many awesome things on this rv. I LOVE the water reclamation feature. Being in east Texas mostly, we are used to high summer temps with humidity, so we have started putting a bucket to catch the run off from our ac in order to water flowers and plants. Being able to safely use this type of condensation is mind blowing to me. Kudos to the genius minds who included this in this amazing rv. Removable island..more genius! And the double split.. also a very good idea (as I type this,, hubby is on top of our 2015 360IBL to figure out what's wrong with our a/c). We are hoping to go back to Montana next spring and work as camp hosts again right off Flathead Lake and this rv would be so awesome there. I just may go buy a lotto ticket this weekend.... smiling... Thanks for a fun video and a look at this wonderful work of art.
Thanks for watching, Debbie!
stay tuned for a dedicated video on the water generation system!
I Like it because it Has No Slides. U don’t have to Mess with.
Finally a trailer my truck won’t beat to pieces. Now to get money for one
I’m blown away by the build quality JD!! Great job LV!!
It’s not for me but I’m part of a large percent that this style RV would never fit their lifestyle. There is a market for the small percent that will buy this though and the proof is that they are selling them.
I love it. I hope you get into more about how the body itself is built. Roof material, walls, floor, insulation, etc.
I also love that there is people out there willing to build something like this and put cost to the side and put quality first.
Could you possibly power your house with this unit?
Yes, you can power both your house and EVs with our onboard 240v power receptacle.
Now there is a serious consideration, power enough to service your home as well? Way cool.
I’m for sure a fan, doesn’t mean I’m ever going to own one though. I love the concept they are working under, quality first.
Its over $500k none of us will ever own one lol 😅
Two thumbs up for the brass Pex fittings and the use of wire loom, very neat mechanicals/electricals. One of these on a Prevost class A chassis would be sweet. My wife would without question injure herself on those sharp corners on the shower shelves though.
We went to their shop years ago to see how they remodeled Airstreams after we purchased an older one ourselves. The blonde man in your video is an architect as well as his father who is involved in at least the trailer renovation part of their company. We got to see a very early rendition of this trailer as they were going thru ideas for what they wanted to do. Super friendly and talented guys !
Appreciate the kind words! A lot has changed since that first model you saw 6 years ago. Hope you can make it back to SB for another visit soon.
I like the concept and execution. Thanks for showing us interesting trailers, JD.
The drawers remind me of toolbox drawers. The way they sound and open and close.
Totally agree. I inquired as to why they didn't use soft closed drawers, and they opted for longevity and overall reliability over that cosmetic function
Excellent quality build.
I’d like to see their take on building a slide out unit.
very cool units. the metal storage is very much like mech tool boxes. cool channel bud.
You know it’s an amazing product when enthusiasts are genuinely excited!
Extremely over built but will last a lifetime in my thinking.Very smart build,so I can compute the cost for what your getting.
This is true off grid living with all the luxury. The battery system price alone must be insanely expensive. It is clear this is high commercial quality. Not in most people’s price range but thanks for sharing.
Wow!!! Impressive for sure.
50 amp power in case you get caught in a bad hail storm that damages the solar panels.
They do look like flex panels and should handle pretty much any hail storm (maybe). I still wouldnt camp inside this expensive snow cone stand
Texas, Oklahoma and Colorado have entered the chat.
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Snow cone stand, perfect. I hate the box trailer look. It even has the vertical rows of rivets holding the sheet panels on. All the tech and quality is badass, but they put a faberge egg in a moldy cardboard box and want three quarter million for it?
Very good review of an extremely nice high quality trailer! Like you, I have never seen a travel trailer that was so well designed and built! In a conventional trailer, I think the Airstream and the Lance trailers are at the top when it comes to quality!
Is this made to park for good and just live in or can you take it from place to place like a campground? It’s an awesome coach!
I've never heard someone say high-end so many times in one video lol.
Liked this so much I looked up the company and scanned their inventory. They have a USED one listed for a measly $465,000.00. Most people would have to sell their paid off house and STILL take out a small mortgage to afford to live off-grid. Talk about a niche market!! Sheesh!
Definitely caters to a specific group. There's just that group of rv'ers who just loves that give me all the solar and batteries you can give me. I guess I don't understand because I dont ever want to be in that group or need. Give me shore power, a generator(rarely need it) and I'll have money to buy and pull my dinosaur fuel burning real lamborghini behind it. Again, not being hateful, but looks like something Dexter might use.
Incredible! I'd still rather have an airstream + house for 700K! #$%#
At least it's still cheaper than the average house in Santa Barbara 😆
I don't think you can actually find a single-family-dwelling in Santa Barbara for under a million.
This is the travel trailer I have waited my entire adult life for. Uncompromising build quality. I will own one of these.
Hey JD. If you are still there can you ask if a sunshade can be attached to the edge of the solar panel when it's extended. The lack of a full awning is a bummer especially for an RV that is designed for the owner to enjoy the outdoors.
Yes, there is a sail cloth option that covers the entire patio just like a boat. Also there are two umbrella stands on either corner of the patio. Happy to answer any other questions you have. Thanks for watching!
@@LivingVehicle thanks!
@@LivingVehicleweird question, any chance of building a model that can be towed by a Cybertruck? 13,500 tow max, 3500 payload, 4 wheel steering to help with trailer control…. supposed to have many features to make up for regular rear axle, not duel.
I wonder about a slightly smaller battery since the truck would have a big battery itself.
I want one of these so bad I can almost touch it but the Cybertruck is going to be my vehicle so that’s where my need starts and ends.
Wonderful stuff, you all are exceptional people and builders. Best of luck to you all
I almost choked when you said the price. Wow!
All Terrain Warrior also uses High Grade Marine components in their builds. They actually started in the yacht building industry and they say the All Terrain Warrior is so tight that it will float. I've never tested that theory.
Beautiful unit for sure. I didn’t realize that you could use torsion axles on something that heavy. Why don’t toy haulers use them?
AMEN! The price is LUDICROUS!!
So...a dehumidifier basically. That would be busy here in SC right now.
Suggest to do a long term evaluation on one of these
What do you think, @BTBRV - Should we put you up on some land somewhere for a while?
Seven hundred thousand dollars is obscene ffor something that looks like somebody did a home-conversion of a box trailer.
The quality is out of this world, but you can tell they're boat-people. I saw some boat-people make a himemade teardrop trailer, the interior was hideous and dead and sterile, too.
Cabinets and features and solar is badass. I'd say it's very competitive at 300k.
I would agree it would be very competitive, but for many of their units that are well above that price point, the cost of developing one exceeds that. They do start at below $300,000 though
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Nice! I believe you when you say they have a hundred thousand dollars of solar on this one though. Batteries are PRICEY. And that's like 3 times as many as what a prius has.
And the smart controllers, wiring, points of use, failsafes, panels, mounting, monitoring system. It adds up.
BEAUTIFUL
I took a shot of vodka every time he said high-end. I only remember 3 mins of the video and woke up in the ICU 3 days later.
Freaking awesome!!!
Never heard of these so thanks JD. Now if I could marry this with the ATC Game Changer Pro.
OMG WOW
Incredible unit. I'd like to see a more aerodynamic front. As is, it's just a big, flat wall of wind resistance.
Aerodynamics of the leading edge have more to do with the tow vehicle than the trailer itself. Take a semi trailer for example. Without the very aerodynamic truck in front of it, it’s just a box.
Vern impressive. Thanks
So cool 😊
Are you planning on showing any other units? They have a nice drop down bed option over the living area as well as the option of the bedroom Murphy bed/office desk plan that’s really nice. You also didn’t show/mention the washer/dryer unit in the bedroom.
You really know your LVs! Thanks for the support :)
Amazing. Will this be your next RV? 😅
The wife says if I want one I have to sell the yacht.😉
Kudos to these young people for thinking out of the box! I have played the lotto, so I am IN, but wondering about this unit.
TO JD--------------->
1. Let us suppose these wonderful young people ring out 90% of RV failures, by their over engineering these systems. When it DOES have a failure, and we all know it will; who fixes it? Campland crooks, nor any privately owned place is going to touch this thing. Are we suggesting, we have to take it back to California?
2. You had better love camping above anything else. Why? Because if you don't expect to keep this thing for years; a lot of years, NOBODY is ever going to give you what it is worth! Can you imagine going in 6 or 7 years down the road, and trying to tell someone when purchased, this thing cost you, 500 grand, so you want 300.000, or even 250,000! People change as they age; and want differnt things..........those are the people who HAVE THE MONEY, we all know this. So, to suggest this thing will be a forever camper for a couple, is faulty reasoning.
3. I have been a total proponent of admitting that RV manufacturers are sticking it to the consumers. This they have done it for years, and it is a total sad state of affairs. Personally, I would not buy anything but an Alliance or Brinkley as of this writing, and I am not as confident as I should be in either of them........... and if I had to choose one on my life, it would have to be a Brinkley; although as everything in the RV industry, that could change.
4. Thank you JD for showing us a niche camper. Unless it is a 10 year warranty, it is not worth much, but it is interesting. A 10 year warranty doesn't mean much, if the company is not capitalized enough to sustain it, or has enough outlets to service it. Does NOT mean they are on the wrong track, just means those on the cusp of being able to afford one of these; if they are smart, will never do it unless all the above boxes are filled in!
VERY insightful and important questions.
I would love if this brand would delve into producing cheaper models that are more basic and simple. Take what they've learned on building these ultimate RV's and see how stripped down they can go while still employing their amazing build quality. And of course, I would love to see a bunk house.
They didn't show it here but it has an optional drop-down queen-size bed that comes down from the ceiling above the lounge/dining area. Even the bedroom can be outfitted with another drop-down bed, so essentially, 8 persons can sleep in this unit.
Crazy cool but I would have to sell my house to buy one.
What a very nice RV. Very impressive....along with the price tag. I am not taking away from their build quality or the passion of the owners. This is definitely catering to a specific demographic that can spend that type of money. Just like you said, a Lamborghini or Ferrari cater to a specific demographic, but rest assured, the Lambo or Ferrari are not their daily driver. They will have another vehicle they will take out on crappy or most days in general. I don't think the person who can and will purchase this type of unit will be a fulltime RV'er. They will most likely have a million-dollar mansion, (with a Lambo or Ferrari in the multi-car garage) to live in and only take this out for short trips. Again, not taking away from this work of art, if you can afford it, good on you. I've been full-time now for 2.5 years in a 44ft 5th-wheel toy-hauler but would love to try out their 5th-wheel (GT-38). Thanks for sharing your video.
Very Nice
Beautiful trailer we’ll done video
Do they do custom builds..... toy hauler version that sleeps 10 plus.
Love this so much. My only issue is that I intend to tow with my Cybertruck which doesn’t with dual rear axles.
And the13,500 tow limit.
But I think I’d rather have this than a second home. Getting into astronomy and astrophotography. Love the idea of heading out to clear, dark skies whenever and enjoy the all-electric, sustainable life I have at home.
I might even consider making this a full time home with a small plot and some storage units and gardens to tend.
I’d sell my home for it. Have to at $500-600k.
But I’d need a smaller lighter version so, with my luck, it’d be even more expensive lol.
With all the videos about the horrors of owning a travel trailer or RV i don’t want to spend as little as possible on something like this. You get what you pay for with this company.
Basically if Tesla and Microsoft shares go up substantially I’m in.
After briefly looking at their site, it looks like you can charge your EV with the DC power ports
that would be awesome.... if you could tow this with a R1T.
Are these rigs available in a 5th wheel or gooseneck towing configuration?
How much profit margin do they have in this unit!
Yes I'm curious on that question as well
Santa Barbara Profit Margin. Think "I'm going to open a RV manufacturing facility on Beverly Hills Rodeo Drive" kinds of expenses.
At that weight, it got the wrong hitch on it these should come with a ProPride 3P Weight Distribution Hitch w/ Sway Control for class 1 or 2" Receivers -
Love it, can I buy the positive locking system for my caravan, cheers
I like the move away from using wood. Looks great but not great for long term durability.
I cannot believe what I viewed. I bought a used 32’ aluminum trailer that I’ve been gutting and have written ideas in a log book for customizing my trailer. They’ve done my ideas and I’m so upset that they’ve beat me to it. An all electric trailer solar powered with the generator backup system. I love the water reclamations system they did. I didn’t think of that. I do have other ideas on my custom design ideas that they didn’t use. I’m going to raise my aluminum trailer for better living accommodations and belly storage. I will be running aluminum vents through the ceiling and belly for ac/heat. I’m still going to use a large full size canopy that when opened I can hang screening that will keep bugs out. I don’t like the all aluminum interior, just doesn’t seem homely to me. I will still use wood cabinets. This LVH is a great trailer however the price has got to come way down. I’m disappointed that a lot of my ideas are here but I’m gonna use some of theirs also! 😂
Santa Barbara has excellent wine.
I'm so excited to see if they use their profits to build a "model y" so to speak. That would be amazing to have these features and something affordable
We're designing 40%+ efficiency solar thin film of fired ceramic semiconductor crystals on durable metal sheet that could take you from 2 kW to 4 or even, a few years down the line, 6 kW, and batteries that will be over 2 kWh per kg. That could enable you to power not only the home, but a BEV truck as well.
Very cool What 5th wheel hitch brand do you suggest for towing now.
2 questions...1 Would you not get wet on the deck when its raining? I say that as there seems to be a large gap from the solar panel extension to the roof. 2 Can you walk on the roof if so is there enough space to clean the bank of solar panels as I doubt that you can walk on the solar panels, also I'm sure you can't walk on the awning so is there space to clean those solar panel while in travel mode?
Two things as a watched your video, the black trim as you walked in the unit was poorly fitted and the cord on the cushions in the living area was poorly done. Both did not scream high end, more like low end!
Though you're getting cushions, that's not what you're paying for with this unit. Cosmetic accessories are subjective and often replaced
They have this insane price tag and then expect us to replace their shitty cloth work? Uhm, No. Not even if I were a billionaire. JD, I used to respect your honesty and your reviews, but with this company, it seems like you've gone all Hollywood Flack PR on us. 😂
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The sour grapes are strong in this comment section.
@@thekinarbothat’s a big assumption on your part!
@@thekinarbo Truth hurts. Freaking thing looks like Snap-on built it LOL.
I'd expect it to be winterized with them thick walls and doors
LV is rated down to -4 degrees F.
Being as short as it is and having 3 axles, would it still be putting around 2000 lbs on the back of your tow vehicle?
What is the kilowatt rating for the solar array? (When fully extended)
Up to 6kW total. 4.4 kW on the roof when extended. Optional deployable solar, too.
Highend this and highend that but it's got the same toolboxes and storage boxes with cushions as my 12ft dirtbike trailer..lol
Wait till the Cybertruck comes out. It can be charged by the Living Vehicle's solar panels. The combination will be unbeatable... and very "high end."
Hi you mentioned a video on battery solar system I can not find it
Coming up
@@BigTruckBigRV thanks for the reply
What would be nice if you have an electric truck and the solar panels charge the truck as you drive to extend the tow distance and or keep it charged.
It has level 1 charging, and probably requires the solar awnings to be out to even deliver 5KW. Even if you had that, it only adds about 10-15 miles of range per hour of charge time, for a regular electric car. For an electric truck capable of pulling this? Maybe 3 miles of range per hour. So if you drive 20 mph it might make a difference to your range. And you'd have to drive with the awnings out.
EVs use incredible amounts of power compared to what solar systems are able to generate, until you start talking about house-sized arrays.
Would be cool to pull with your F450 to see how it pulls.
Is winter heat compatible
Does it only come plain or do they have paint options . And are those tires necessary since those are made for grip those axles have no power so wouldn't you be better off with high end heavy duty trailer tires . and the offroad suspension
The exterior is anodized aluminum and will last for generations. We don’t offer paint options, but if you wanted you could get it custom wrapped.
Off-road tires increase surface grip and stopping power on dirt road and in winter weather conditions.
Awesome thanks for the answers 👍
I like it, but I'm a car guy. I think they'd do well with that price area if they now make it much more plush. Rich people are going to want wood cabinets (super high quality ones) and a luxury home feeling rather than a race car trailer feeling. But I love the quality and their ideas behind this concept. I wish them well.
I love it, but, and you knew there would be a very big but, SEVEN-HUNDRED-THOUSAND DOLLARS? I get it... There's a market for these things. We used to live in Santa Barbara, and left when we realized we'd never really be able to afford a (decent) home there. I suppose if I wanted an all out boondocking trailer that's darn near indestructible, I might consider the Living Vehicle trailer. Or, I'd just build my own. At that price, though... There's a whole lotta "look at me!" status-seeker money in that thing. Pretty much what Santa Barbara is all about. :)
Can it handle a hard freeze?
Can they do slide outs? For possibly more room.
That was cool watching you guess what some stuff was ! LOL What was the speaker thing again? I would be a Buyer at $250,000...... $699,000 Not so much Good Luck ! how much ground clearance ? looked kinda low......
All of our vehicles are custom built and we offer a variety of models. Well equipped units starting at 299k.
I love your content and im not bashing you, but I could buy a new Grand Design travel trailer every 10 years for the rest of my life and spend about the same amount of money as i would on one of these trailers that might last me 20 years if im lucky. And how much do they want for replacement batteries? I'm sorry but its just not practical.
Awesome unit. Is there a tv in the bedroom?
2:35 Probably the New F-450 base model, max tow package.
Extremely impressive
Well designed WOW
only word that comes to mind.
I only ask can there be colour choices interior ?
I am reading a neutral warm grey same for upholstery and window treatments 😊
What are the Walls and Ceilings made of?
Aluminum coated with heat- treated epoxy.
I’ve been checking out the living vehicle for a couple of weeks now, it is very impressive, and they absolutely have the best quality and innovation in the industry. I was also wondering if they had considered towing the LV with an electric truck, and possibly partnering with either Ford, Chevy, or Dodge designing away to use the solar from the LV to enhance the range of an electric tow vehicle or charge your EV while camping since those options are very limited?
Solar charging a vehicle is years away. Ford Lightning uses 0.49 kwh per mile. On this unit, with the awnings extended, they were pulling in 1964 watts. So in 1 hour, they generated 4 miles of range for the Ford Lightning. And that truck is nowhere near the size needed to haul this beast.
Integrating with electric trucks has always been the goal. This is absolutely possible. Our largest solar array currently is 6kW. Using the Ford Lightning mentioned in the comment below as a reference point, you would charge 12 miles of range per hour with our largest solar system. Of course that truck can’t tow LV, but there are other options that can. We also offer lighter weight models.
Our largest battery pack is 72kWh, which will allow for energy stored over a longer period of time for EV charging as needed.
Thanks for taking the time and replying, glad to hear it’s in the works. I will be looking forward to the future with hopeful optimism.
@@thomasdrue1599 Yes, stay tuned. We have lots of exciting developments in the works!
Are there any plans for slide outs on any future models?
Ok, ok, it's high end. Got it.
I've been asked no less than 1,000 times in the last year to showcase something that meets ultimate quality standards. I do it, it has a price that reflects that, and I get hate for it..