Michelle Troconis criminal trial | Day 20 afternoon
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2024
- Testimony continues in the criminal trial of Michelle Troconis, who is charged in connection to Jennifer Dulos' disappearance.
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It's funny how the defence keeps objecting when it gets near to his client, possibly being exposed and calling it a waste of court time!!! Has he forgotten just how he presents his side? Constant repeating over irrelevant points, I know it's his job, but come on!! She knows where Jennifer is and can't say as will prove her involvement.... JUSTICE FOR JENNIFER!
Yes its his job to object...to win his client....he will block all the witnesses say or testify to weaken the case...and we hope the truth comes ...and that is justice for this dedicated mom Jennifer🙏🙏🙏🙏
Yes, without fail!
Michelle is obviously working for her lawyer to cut costs. She's frantically doing searches through material on offer for argumentative fodder, every day.
@@lesleyhughes3174😂😂 Yeah, so funny! She stopped using her cell phone 😂 Must have been told the whole world is saying how rude she is 🤦♀️🙆♀️
❤ Hello from Melbourne Australia! I am still waiting for that part 🤦♀️🙆♀️ Can't stand his entitlement much longer but we must endure and see that Jennifer gets justice and MT pays! I am replaying the afternoon video 😂 it's 10.25am Friday here!
Seriously? Lincoln’s birthday is a holiday but only in CT, NY, MO and IL 😵💫 What the hell am I supposed to do today without my new favorite judge?!
What a boring and annoying defense attorney
Learned last week that he wanted a "standing objection" to all of the testimony presented by the prosecution. The judge denied his motion , and told him he will have to object to every single witness. I'm guessing he must have been a "C" student in Law school
Any cases this lawyer has won, he should feel lucky because he isn’t the brightest bulb in the bulb even though he try’s he misses every time. 😂
Worst defense attorney. Most annoying. Seems like he doesnt know court procedures. Why is Troconis using him to defend her with such a serious charge relating to murder? Perhaps she couldn't afford better?
I've wondered about that often during the last three weeks. I'm sure her family is paying good money for legal representation, and this is all they could find? Beyond embarrassing when he misspeaks or misrepresents what witnesses have said, and then they correct him. Lack of preparation at the very least. Maybe he should stop whispering with the client and taking cues from her. We can already see where her poor judgement has landed her.
Am I the only one that logs off when the Defense Attorney talks? His competitive questions are so annoying and going nowhere.. get to the facts!!!
His primary goal is to plant the doubt with the jury. Have firsthand experience with jury duty in CT, and I know the makeup of the juries I sat on. If this jury is anything similar to those, there's no predicting what will happen
No....he is so annoying to me as well😢😢😢😢😢.
Justice for Jennifer
All the defense seems to be doing is to attempt to dis-credit the forensic experts....
Which is his biggest mistake. What does he think "expert ' means? Thursday's testimony of two experts , and then he's asking dumb questions about navigation systems and cellphone towers. I found the testimony extremely interesting and learned quite a bit about the story your car's navigation system can tell. Maybe he should have paid closer attention to the witness's initial comments before getting up there and making a fool of himself.
If they moved the screen a little to the left I would be able to read the Greek conversation and translate. I hope they do get Greek translator!
Couple of observations: 1) Has anyone else besides me noticed how easily Michelle converses with her attorneys, seems no translator is necessary. I really hope the jury is paying attention to that, as I'm positive the Defense's closing argument will include her "limited" knowledge of the English language😏 2) Someone should advise the Defense Attorney that objecting to DNA, Digital and Forensic evidence makes him look ignorant, or annoying, and neither is attractive. In fact, I think it will make things worse for his client at deliberation time. 3) People seem to be hung up on the employee Pawel. I suspect he inadvertently helped Fotis either hide or destroy some of the evidence, before realizing what actually had happened to Jennifer. Him being granted immunity tells me that the prosecution felt his testimony was necessary to shine a light on the " real Michelle". 4) Really impressed with the investigative work done both by the CT State Police and the respective CT state agencies. As a CT resident, happy to see competent individuals who enjoy their work, and do it well. 5) At this point, no way to gauge what the jury will decide, but hoping they ignore the grandstanding of the Defense, and give serious consideration to the factual evidence presented.
Both her lawyers speak spanish
@@irenetsomidis2167 I understand that. I am also able to speak it, and I can also lip read. They were not speaking to her in Spanish. Nice try though !
prosecution is also quite lame presenting all this detail cell calls , msg & location ect that doesnt prove Michelle's involvement.
@@ritaeichler2066 I wouldn't say lame as I think the evidence, particularly regarding the GPS of the Ford Raptor, was revealing. I did think however, that much more detail needed to be shared about the owners of the cell phones who participated in the group texts. Wasn't actually necessary to highlight that Fotis was or wasn't on his phone, but rather the other people he was communicating with.
@@irenetsomidis2167 yeah well for those of us able to lip read, they aren't responding to her in Spanish when they're sitting in court. Also suggest Michelle stop texting whomever while testimony is taking place. She make think this is a cake walk, and her attorney has assured her she'll walk, but some of the evidence presented simply cannot be ignored. Looking forward to the testimony of Kent Mahwinney. If his comments are similar to those of the employee Pawel, Michelle's going to have a problem. And it's amusing her attorney trying to discredit Pawel. Honestly, all three of them are guilty for not immediately reporting what Fotis did. What should really happen here is all three of them go to jail. But two of them cut a deal with the state, and apparently Michelle received some bad advice about not immediately telling all she knew. So now her fate will rest with the jury
Speaking objections only when judge requests clarification and Judges usually do give long winded speaking rulings to those objections, he knows the law, sustain or over rule objections and move on. Judge focus is the trial, not educate spectators on the law. This is the only Judge I’ve ever seen give speaking ruling on every objection. A good Judge is very knowledgeable on the law, makes a ruling and understands it is not necessary to flaunt his knowledge on the law, speaking objections and speaking justification by the judge of his rulings only waste time an prolong the trial. I know onlookers love this judge because he has a good voice, explaining every nuance to them, the jury doesn’t need to know why a objection is overruled or sustained, they understand the judge is an expert of the law in that court room and they must abide by his ruling, if the Judge made a mistake that is for the appeals court. How many times did Darrell Brooks try to pry an explanation out of the Judge, “I am the Judge, I made my ruling and the record speaks for itself, MOVE ON, ask you next question!
Regarding her needing translator… during her interrogation she spoke and understood the English language very well
I think with this, they don't want to risk anything causing mistrial. Plus some of this is long and complex so I'd imagine she would need some help. I could do with translation for some of this tecky stuff!
Still think her attorney is going to hang his hat on that. He won't succeed, but should she get convicted, there will definitely be an appeal.
At this point I'm getting tired of her attorney using that excuse. They played the police interview videos. We could hear her for ourselves. She seemed to be able to not only speak English, but to also answer questions in a relevant manner. I just know that defense attorney is going to make that part of his closing argument and I pray the jury doesn't fall for that nonsense.
Why can’t we see the messages?
Probably because it has innocent peoples numbers and email addresses on them. Like lawyers or staff or clients, etc.
@@tracy6756
EXAAAAACTLY!!!
This is one of the first trials I've seen where they've tried to protect people. I remember during the Depp V Heard trial and a bunch of people's numbers were doxxed.
7:44
Great job camera person with trying to keep some of the people's phone numbers private, since I'm sure some of them still use the same numbers and it wouldn't be fair for them to receive calls from crazy people who watch this trial and want to call them!
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Did the defendant have her phone with her during the time period of the murder and all the cleaning up they did at the murder scene and while dumping all the trash
The defense attorney seems in over his head a bit, asks questions of which an unknown or surprise answer is provided
objects to no end. His delivery is quite annoying. 😮 He is throwing linguini, angel hair, penne pastas all over the wall, trying to make anything stick. And let's not forget the endless frivolous motions.
Judge Randall is always cool, calm, collected. Quite a teacher/mentor to both attorneys, however, he is really teaching the defense attorney so much about the laws, who is coming a across as somewhat of a dingbat.
He might be trying to plant a seed of doubt, however, he has to be also annoying some of the jurors as well as some viewers.😅
Does anyone know when the next session is on day 21
The defence team look like father and daughter.
2:21:40
I'm honestly not sure why he decided to include this, because it actually seems to hurt Michelle's case, showing that Fotis was up all night, which would make me think that he was planning what he did later that morning. Usually when people plan to murder somebody, they don't sleep well the night before... this shows just that!
In fact, it makes it look like from the info, that Fotis only slept from around midnight/1am until 413am. Or that he was not moving around during that time. Or, set his phone down during that time.
@@goose7574 omg. I agree. Never thought of it that way… prosecution only had it from 5AM something! This means #Fotis was UP & MOVING around ALL NIGHT! So unfortunate jurors won’t have #MichelleTroconis’ phone! Jury will probably wonder why & be confused!
Do they not have her phone because of the warrant issues? If nothing to hide, they could have added it in 🤷
@@hjsparks85
I'm not sure...I would think that they'd have her stuff
I agree. The cellphone testimony certainly tells a story, doesn't it ?. And if Fotis was supposedly away from 4 Jefferson Crossing on the morning of 5/24, without his phone ,then we'll have to assume MIchelle had possession of his phone. Only wish they had elaborated on who was involved in those group texts, other than Fotis. The evidence that has sealed it for me though, is Michelle having possession of the keys to the Tacoma Truck for several hours. Plenty of time to have an ignition key copied, and that, combined with Fotis's insistence that the employee leave the Tacoma truck, and take the Jeep instead, to the job site on Fri. 5/24, provides the missing piece to the puzzle. And certifies that Michelle was involved, prior to the murder.
The defense is just mudding the waters for the jury. He is trying to cause doubt with all his nonsense. Unfortunately, he is causing all of us to dislike him and question his professional abiliity.
What's with the camera man not focusing on the part of the screen they're speaking about?!!
I would guess that they are trying to protect the people who the calls/msgs went to/came from, that still use the same number and don't want their info doxxed to the public.
I think it actually shows how thoughtful & respectful they are truly to be since some of the people who are a party to this trial/case, didn't choose to be and shouldn't be targeted or bothered because of it.
Hopefully that helps a bit!
At least they’re showing some of the screen. Law & Crime has it totally blurred out. 🤷🏻♀️ Law & Crime kinda messes with entire screen view at times.
And! This crazy annoying defense attorney. 😳 Not sure how jurors have patience with him! Cannot imagine how long & drawn out #Schoenhorn defense presentation will be!!
It's weird how they hide this but so much other personal things shared.
Food for thought there
The defense is horrible!!
Is her screen saver Jennifer's Children?
It's looks likes like a bunch of children , I could be mistaken.
Can anyone sum up this evidence for me? I'm totally zoned out!
They should look at Michelle’s phone around the afternoon of the 24 th. Because he’s (Fotis) probably communicating with her that day
Warrant didn’t include it!!! They seized it but pre trial argument over it kept it out of trial! Gee must of been some good stuff for defense to fight to suppress it- if she has nothing to hide let them prosecution have it!!
I have found when Connecticut wants a person they Will get it Noo matter what!!!!!
Have to disagree. The forensic and cellphone data tells a huge story. And it's more than coincidence that the three people initially suspected of this crime, are now the same people who's DNA is found all over the crime evidence, whose cellphones indicates their true whereabouts on the morning of 5/24/19, and that they all were communicating with each other, multiple times that morning. The game changer is Michelle taking the keys to the Tacoma ( the day before the murder) and keeping them several hours, before returning them. No doubt now, she had that ignition key copied, and then when Fotis told the employee to leave the Tacoma and take the Jeep to the jobsite on 5/24, yeah, I really don't need to hear anymore. They were trying to set that employee up, knowing once Police knew the vehicle spotted at Waveney Park, they'd come after the employee. Only thing that Fotis & Michelle didn't count on, is that the employee would get suspicious of them, and saved those truck seats.
what is the point of this review 🤨
Fotis said he didn't have his phone and MT said he had left his phone at home in the office... Probably seeing who what and when the phone was active 👌
@@Graciela.Feb28th exactly!!