We have updated some practices since this video came out! For one, we have used non-fermentable sugars with great success. Allulose and erythritol work well. Video here: Sugar? Honey? Erythritol? What to Backsweeten Mead with? ruclips.net/video/3M5Up696Ivc/видео.html Also, we have learned that open containers during pasteurization do NOT lost alcohol. Of course, carbonated beverages will lose carbonation though. Here is our latest pasteurization video: Easiest Way to Pasteurize Mead, Wine, and Cider! (no gunk in your bottles!) ruclips.net/video/zWBU3EI-EFo/видео.html
January 2024. Mead brew, 13 litres, 13 days old, still in fermenter. 28g yeast nutrients, original gravity of 1070, gravity today is 1003- ABV 9.48. I want to back sweeten with honey. I have Campden tablets, but not sure what the next step is. Do I transfer brew to another vessel and add campden tabs to stall fermentation?
@@robboisvert2442 Well, pasteurizing kills off beneficial bacteria and enzymes that are in unpasteurized milk, and isn’t necessary for healthy cows in healthy environmental conditions (though it also extends shelf-life which serves a commercial purpose).
@@CitySteadingBrews At a normal walking speed of 3mph, it would take roughly 8300.33 hours to walk all the way around the earth; or roughly 345.8 days. One could suppose it would take roughly a year to accomplish it.
Oh My Word!!! You just helped me so much! I had some Elderflower Orange Blossom Honey Mead turn into a highly carbonated 14% rocket fuel champagne like monster last year. Who knew that throwing some Elderflowers in the secondary was going to make such a difference! Even now, the bottles are near enough to a fizz fountain each time I open one. They were nearly undrinkable last year and haven't improved all that much. After listening to the first half of this video, I ran down to the cave, grabbed a bottle risking life and limb and brought it upstairs. Once I opened it and poured myself a glass, I mixed in some mandarin orange infused honey, and the result is absolutely astounding! I was almost thinking of pouring them all down the drain until just now!
Backsweetened a batch of mixed berry that I thought was maxed out. It didn't react right away, so I thought it was good and I bottled it all. It did activate after a couple weeks, but not too much. Instead of blowing up, they were perfectly champaign-bubbly. It was AMAZING!
This saved my first mead, which I started from an online recipe, before I found your channel. So many mistakes were made. Maybe because of using a whole cut up orange and a 16% alcohol tolerant yeast, it was very dry and bitter. But by step feeding it, the bitterness went away, it reached a mild sweetness and when it finally stopped fermenting, the peach flavors came out. Thank you. I also made your Beginner mead, and it is lovely. I have six Bottles of each mead now aging. I started a batch of the spiced mead on the winter solstice and will start a batch of the ginger mead and one of apple melomel in the new year. Thanks for giving me one more reason to start keeping bees again.
For those that are worried about controlling the temperature for pasteurization, you could get a Sous-vide the basic unit cost around $80 and you just dial in the temperature and don't have to worry you're going to over heat it plus you can use it to cook a real good steak. Great video by the way! Learning a lot from your channel.
Good job. I agree with you on the "coffee " slurping. No one really needs that......but your video was very concise, clear, well spoken and accurate. Well done Sir.
Been brewing for 20 years and still learn things everyday. Tried all kinds of things to make my cider sweeter. None worked. Thanks! Will try some of methods mentioned.
I used your traditional mead recipe recently for my first brew. I used a high tolerance yeast because I want it to go dry, and then I plan to stepfeed it like you've described. Hopefully I end up with a high abv, sweet mead! we'll see how its progressing in 4-6 weeks I guess
We love your videos. All our equipment is arriving in the next few days for the first attempts at Mead minus carboys for racking. Kimchee comes in the same jars so my Korean wife has a collection of 50+ in the garage.
I made your traditional mead and back sweetened it with 12 oz. of Cinnamon Red Hots. It is awesome and definitely sweet I named it Firebird in honor of Carthage College Football 🏈 where my son plays. Thanks some much for your great channel.
I love these videos. I went from "maybe making mead would be cool. I should try it sometime" to buying all that I need and being a few days away from starting thanks to your channel
I pasteurize my sparkling sweet cider easiest way is to use water bath and a sousvide. Or an electric smoker set to lowest setting like 150. Place one bottle of water in with your brew so you can use thermometer to check temp once you reach temp hold it there until padtuerized. You can google temperature and time tables for pastuerizaton.
So, are you guys ever willing to have a viewer send in a bottle? It would be neat to see you two diagnose the mead. I'll be first and send you two! Thats a real offer. I do think it would be lots of fun on Friday or Saturday nights to see something like that; or better yet, whenever you felt like doing it.
The info about carbonating and pasteurization was super helpful! I made a mango apple cider last year that tasted great, but I drank it still because I was terrified of trying to carbonate. I’m ready to give it another go.
This was such an informative video! Thank you so much. I like how you inform us about how yeast actually works and why certain methods work better than others. This was very appreciated!
*Do I understand this correctly: you shouldn’t back sweeten unless pasteurized, or the yeast has maxed out the alcohol it can tolerate? *Or does the yeast die once it has finished 2nd fermentation, and I can back sweeten then. Or will it restart fermentation because living yeast is still there? Thank you for everything you have taught me. 😊 I watched all of your videos that I thought the answer would be in, but I still don’t understand.
Okay... pasteurization isn't normally necessary. Times when you want to pasteurize: 1) You want a sweet carbonated brew 2) You want to stop a brew from fermenting further when you backsweeten. Generally speaking, yeast have a tolerance level for alcohol. Generally, if you're past that level, they won't ferment more. But, that means you cannot carbonate. So, you need to carbonate then pasteurize with plenty of sugars still in it for both carbonation and sweetness. If left alone, they will explode, but by pasteurizing after some carbonation happens, it stops fermentation and you have a sweet bubbly brew. If you are backsweetening, and you have not reached the alcohol tolerance of your yeast, then pasteurizing will keep it from refermenting and keep it sweet and not raise the alcohol level. Make sense?
Glad I found this. I am a gear addicted homebrewer but my wife only drinks cider. I am getting here a little cider kit for Christmas. She only drinks sweet cider though. Now I have some directions to go when we give it a whirl.
Slytherin huh? 😁. Just getting ready to try a gallon batch of Gingerbeer. Just need to drink 11 fliptop bottles of Grolsch between now and next weekend 😂😂😄
I've been trying to get into brewing and whenever I think I've figured it out I have more questions and think I did it all wrong. The videos are really helpful. I've been doing step feeding without knowing what it's called and whether or not you should even be doing this. Hearing that it's a real thing and a viable option eases my mind.
Usually it will far exceed your target ABV. You’ll know by the concussion type hangover that you get from it! Unfortunately, best practice is to dump it or like you said add sugar at time of opening. Great videos!!
Thank you so much for this. The last part, where the big batch is still in the fermenter and very dry...is Exactly where I am at with my brew. This video popped up in my feed exactly when i needed it.
Thank you I will try this I watched your vide on how to make mead ( honey, black tea, raisins, orange) first batch came out great it was sweet! Second batch was dry and I didn't know what to do so I'm glad to find another video helping with this! You two are awesome!
@@CitySteadingBrews I thought I put the same amount in but maybe I need a new scale! No worries I have a bee keeper who sells honey (I heart bees) 2 minutes from the house I'll just pick up some more and continue the adventure
I just back-sweetened some very dry apple wine with some clear apple juice (what you call cider in the US), it's given it a really appley taste and has softened the harshness of the dry wine beautifully.
This helped a lot. I'm going to do the step sweetening if my brew is not quite to my liking. 1/2 c sugar wait a week...still fermenting? Add another 1/2 c of sugar and wait another couple weeks.
found this channel while searching for making rice wine. I love your videos. When I back sweeten, I typically use corn syrup. And I always chuckle when you talk about bottle bombs....I made one a few years ago in a 1 gal carboy. It exploded on my dining room table. Fortunately no one was in there. It literally sprayed all 4 walls. We were finding glass shards for weeks. Now I don't normally ferment in glass :P
I had to check out this video to see if it is ok to sweeten in primary or secondary. It's been two weeks and fermentation has stopped. I tasted ginger apple wine and it is too dry. I may sweeten in secondary so there will be less sediments. This is my first-ever wine. Didn't take a reading because my hydrometer broke. So everything is blind brewing. Thanks for the video. So helpful.
Your video was very helpful! Answered alot of the questions I had. I liked the way you presented the info. You didn't talk down like you were talking to a bunch of idiots, but you were clear and direct without all the overly technical stuff. (For those of us who are new and maybe feel a little like idiots.) Awesome video. Thanks
Great straightforward explanation. My local brew shop recommended dextrose in fermentation to up fermentable sugar content in a cider I was planning. Dextrose (made from corn) has a neutral flavor profile and won't interfere with the cider flavor.
Great video. In a past SMaSH brew, I had used Lav 71B, was aware it wasn't going to hit the tolerance of the yeast and bottled with a few mg of sweetner to get the carbonation in the bottles.
One thing I'd like to be explored is the process of re-using yeast. I don't know the exact terminology, but the same way that beer brewers use the same yeast for decades by letting the yeast grow and multiply in another container. I hope that makes sense.
Was looking for a alternative to back sweeten wine v.s. using potassium sorbate. That's interesting bottling the wine and then cork. Fill the large pot warm water to 140 deg then place bottles in 10-15 minutes to kill the yeast. Makes sense. Thanks for the great tip.
I'm a little confused. Potassium Sorbate is not for back sweetening.... Unless you mean an alternative to using it when backsweetening, then yes! I agree.
I JUST did my 1st rack on 15 gallons of Fig wine 🍷. I used approximately 20 pounds of frozen figs per 5 gallons ( my 2 fig bushes produced over 75 lbs Summer 21) and 10 lbs of brown sugar. This is the reason why I am watching this video. I do not want a dry fig wine 😩 I also used 2 strains of yeast that tolerates high abv 18%. 🤞
The best Cider I make is also the easiest (if you have a keezer) Store bought juice at a OG of 1.05, bumped to 1.06 with brown sugar, dumped in a brew bucket. After about a week or so it's Fermented dry to 1.00 FG, with an ABV of about 8%!! I then rack to a glass carboy. I put the whole carboy in my keezer and cold crash for a week. I then transfer to my keg, throw in a few cans of concentrate (I also enjoy it dry on occasion) and force carb it for a few days. At this point the first glass I pour is sludgy. Every glass after is a beautiful hazy cider. It never lasts long enough for me to be concerned about any residual build up of less. The cold keezer keeps it hazy and cold.
You have just saved me from having a nervous breakdown. I'm RUclips drunk ! Way too much info. that my brain doesn't compute. I can understand you. You make sense. And, you're entertaining. Now I can finish. I just subscribed and I'll be back. Thank you !
Video perfect timing my Black Current Apple Cider just finished and it pretty dry. Tasty but dry, I was looking for something with a tad bit more sweetness to it. I was just going to attempt to back sweeten this weekend. Since I made a 5 gallon batch may do only half because it's still pretty tasty dry
I'm just getting back into home brewing since retiring. I traveled a lot. But as I recall (I was doing primarily beer), But what are advantages/disadvantages of using dextrose as the sweetener. I was under the impression it gave you a cleaner flavor. Thanks Love your videos by the way.
Currently making a peach wine and it’s soo sour but still fermenting and I was wondering how I’m going to make it sweet at the end but this video answered all my questions
This was incredibly helpful!! I was wondering how I could backsweeten a cider I'm making in case it became too dry, but without pasteurizing. I'm excited to try this!!
Without pasteurizing, I think the best option would be to use non fermentable sugars. They say erythritol is the closest to sugar that doesn't have a lot of off flavors. I've never used it, but a lot of people do
Double checking that I did this right. Started my first Vikings blood with tart cherries(3#) and a fruit mix(4# raspberries, black raspberries, blueberries) with 15# of honey for 5 gallons. Starting gravity of 1.11 using Lalvin K1-1116. Racked off the fruit after 1 month, gravity .996. Gravity stable at .996 so roughly 15% alcohol and still stable after another month. Added 5# more honey looking for a semi-sweet finish. Current gravity after additional honey 1.028. Did not want to back sweeten in bottling as way to much fermentation. Shooting for about 18% alcohol with about 2% semi-sweet. Thanks in advance.
Awesome video, thanks for adding the Celsius in there, yeah I can google it but it's a nice touch. The blooper at the end was funny as all heck should do that more often!
Thanks for the information! I just started my fermentation adventures last year and so far have been very successful at making apple cider and mead, as well as fruit vinegars. I’ve been binge watching your videos, so many cool recipes I’m going to try! Cheers to you and Derica!
Thank you for these videos! I recently have tried home brews with some mead! I wanted to make it a carbonated mead and your pasteurization video and this video helped me make sure I didn’t end up with some glass bombs! Thanks!
I got you bromosapien! You and your wife are extremely entertaining and doing what you do very well. You've answered a lot of questions that I was curious about. I'm glad that I followed your channel. It's been quite inspirational in fact.
Love all your video's,you inspired me to go out get some apple's and start brewing,the one tip I took from you was to keep to one technique,I started confusing myself by looking at other contributors,well done and keep up the good work, Andy UK
God I can't believe I just found you all! I have a batch of pear wine that has fermented dryer than I wanted (Using the apparently HIGHLY contested EC1118) and I was looking into ways to back sweeten it a bit Love this content and love the channel! Now I've got a two year backlog of content to get through haha! Cheers!!
🍻🍻👍🇨🇦 1 year in , making another batch. I liked it 1 month in and drank all but 1 within 3 months, OMG drank last bottle 12 months and amazed how much better it was.
After primary when I found my meads to be dry, I just took a glass with 100ml mead and added honey until I liked the taste, then put the same ratio of honey into the big batch. Now they're sitting in conditioning. Will taste again after more months have passed, I figured.
I've been thinking about trying to make a sack mead at some point. This video has been very helpful in terms of the back sweetening process and I just might get one started in a few weeks. Thank you both very much for the information and advice
Whats funny is I was going to comment on one of your other videos where you talked about back sweetening but I forgot to. RUclips algorithm sends me this!
Hello Derica and Brian, I am late to the game trying to research all your older videos. Thankyou both for your inspiration and excellant teachings. I am sure this is not a new idea, I did just pasturize a blueberry mead... your recipe which is incredible but is dry. Now , my inspiration which I have not found which has worked incredibly is and again I am sure this is not new, I introduced a lb of bochet with a have stick of cinnamon and a tsp of vanilla the readings went from .996 to1.010 and is the most successful mead I have made. It is not overly sweet but the carmel ,smoky notes are intense and a pleasure. It was interesting to have the pure flavours of a bochet and does not get lost in primary. Just my experience and thankyou for all you are sharing your knowledge.
This was extremely helpful! Thank you for sharing this. I've been worrying about how to pasteurize my brew w/o affecting the taste "too much" and I think your method of bringing water to 180°F and then putting my bottles into that bath is going to be my answer. Especially with my peach/habanero wine that I'm about to start.
We can offer one better. Heat the water to 160f. Put an open bottle of water in the middle. when you put the bottles in after removing from the heat. Monitor that water bottle. Keep it at 140f for 15-20 minutes. Done. Much safer method!
This video helped me on the question I left on another. Thank you oh and I ordered the hydrometer you suggested should be here tomorrow. Thanks again for all your help.
You speak on being careful with backsweetening as you could restart fermentation. I've got a plum melomel that is aging currently and I'm think it will need bscksweetening. I'm thinking about 24hr before I'm ready to bottle I'll use a campden tablet the back sweeten. In theory this should prevent fermentation restarting. Thoughts? What your opinion of campden tablets? I've noticed you've never used them. Love this channel and these videos. I've learned so much and gotten do great ideas from you guys. Thanks.
This question is just about mead. Would you recommend adding vanilla beans and strawberries in the fermenting carboy or put in the racked carboy? Or should I put one in the other? Also would you recommend putting the entire split vanilla bean in or would you recommend I make a extract with bourbon, vodka, whiskey, brandy etc. Thanks! Love your videos!
Best explainer on this topic I’ve come across, thanks Brian. Question: if I do the step feeding method in my fermenter (a 3 gallon carboy) and bring it to the maximum alcohol tolerance of the yeast, does that mean I’ll basically be stuck with a non-carbonated cider when I bottle it?.
I am making a Quince Vanilla Cinnamon Mead that has stopped fermenting after 2 weeks. I used D47, since I read that is what is used for Riesling wines and I wanted a semi-sweet style Mead. It is currently VERY dry, though the aromatics are beautiful. Currently it looks like it is at about a little over 9%, which means it is only half way to the max yeast tolerance. I am going to rack it from the brew bucket to a carboy to get it to secondary fermentation and remove it from the fruit and am thinking about back sweetening it. I am out of the same honey that I had used previously, but to help with the complexity of the mead and quince I used a 1/2lb block of piloncillo (which gave it an amazing caramel odor), so I was thinking of adding a slightly cooked (caramelized) 1/2lb piloncillo to the carboy during secondary fermentation. Do you think this will allow for a slightly sweeter, slightly higher in ABV mead that has the tasting notes I am looking for?
@@CitySteadingBrews That's exactly what I did. Might add back the cinnamon stick when racking and possibly more sugar but so far I am liking it's flavoring. The sourness mellowed out, but it's still pretty dry. Thanks!
I acted rashly this morning and back sweetened by putting sugar in my wine after its second racking. The SG was .99 so I figured fermentation was over. I think it started fermentation again! I hope that I haven't destroyed my wine!
Hi Brian, love your videos, I have just started the hobby of brewing, and have watched your brewing videos several times trying to get it right, I have a traditional, a JAO and some ginger beer brewing there two weeks old so far, hope you continue to make making videos on brewing, Thanks !!
Thank you, you make everything as easy as it can be. I am trying to make the wine you made from grape juice. The first batch came out so good my girlfriend who does not drink said it tasted good. It tasted like Welche's Grape juice with after taste of wine. Sooo good I think I drank about a gallon. However, my next 2 tries or batches have turned out really dry. I am new at this but with your help I am figuring out how to make that first batch again. I think the key is checking the fermentation and stopping it while there is still juice sugars present. keep doing what your doing
The key is doing EXACTLY the same thing we did. Same juice (or as close as you can get), same amount of sugar and same yeast. Any changes will affect the final outcome. Here's our latest simple wine video to help out: ruclips.net/video/vXmrBmAEcvg/видео.html
Another great video guys! If you used the pasteurised method to retain the sweetness level you want and to kill the yeast to stop further carbonation and fermentation. How much would the ABV increase whilst it is in the bottle during the second fermentation? Also, how long does the second take and when should you pasteurise the bottles to kill the yeast? TIA!
If you pasteurize, the ABV will not go up. The yeast are dead. I highly suggest watching some of our "making of" videos. We have many! They will show you everything you are asking. It's far too much to explain in one response.
Thank you for tour video! I just fermented my first wine! I was wondering how to sweeten it. So my question is: if I pasteurize the bottles while there are a little bubbles, then add syrup, will it spoil the wine?
We have updated some practices since this video came out!
For one, we have used non-fermentable sugars with great success. Allulose and erythritol work well. Video here: Sugar? Honey? Erythritol? What to Backsweeten Mead with?
ruclips.net/video/3M5Up696Ivc/видео.html
Also, we have learned that open containers during pasteurization do NOT lost alcohol. Of course, carbonated beverages will lose carbonation though. Here is our latest pasteurization video: Easiest Way to Pasteurize Mead, Wine, and Cider! (no gunk in your bottles!)
ruclips.net/video/zWBU3EI-EFo/видео.html
January 2024. Mead brew, 13 litres, 13 days old, still in fermenter. 28g yeast nutrients, original gravity of 1070, gravity today is 1003- ABV 9.48. I want to back sweeten with honey. I have Campden tablets, but not sure what the next step is. Do I transfer brew to another vessel and add campden tabs to stall fermentation?
@edithroberts1844 we never use chemical stabilization but you need more than camden tablets.
Irrelevant fun fact, Louis Pasteur originally came up with pasteurization to help the wine industry, not the dairy industry.
I rather like irrelevant fun facts.
priorities...
@@CitySteadingBrews Same here. For some reason, I seem to always remember those irrelevant fun facts; don't know why that happens.
@@robboisvert2442 Well, pasteurizing kills off beneficial bacteria and enzymes that are in unpasteurized milk, and isn’t necessary for healthy cows in healthy environmental conditions (though it also extends shelf-life which serves a commercial purpose).
@@CitySteadingBrews At a normal walking speed of 3mph, it would take roughly 8300.33 hours to walk all the way around the earth; or roughly 345.8 days. One could suppose it would take roughly a year to accomplish it.
Oh My Word!!! You just helped me so much! I had some Elderflower Orange Blossom Honey Mead turn into a highly carbonated 14% rocket fuel champagne like monster last year. Who knew that throwing some Elderflowers in the secondary was going to make such a difference! Even now, the bottles are near enough to a fizz fountain each time I open one. They were nearly undrinkable last year and haven't improved all that much. After listening to the first half of this video, I ran down to the cave, grabbed a bottle risking life and limb and brought it upstairs. Once I opened it and poured myself a glass, I mixed in some mandarin orange infused honey, and the result is absolutely astounding! I was almost thinking of pouring them all down the drain until just now!
Infused honey to flavour and back sweeten! Pure genius! I'm so doing this. Mulled honey, here I come.
That was a hilarious story. Thank you 😊 😂
Backsweetened a batch of mixed berry that I thought was maxed out. It didn't react right away, so I thought it was good and I bottled it all. It did activate after a couple weeks, but not too much. Instead of blowing up, they were perfectly champaign-bubbly. It was AMAZING!
Star San sharing the spotlight with whisky bottles.
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This saved my first mead, which I started from an online recipe, before I found your channel. So many mistakes were made. Maybe because of using a whole cut up orange and a 16% alcohol tolerant yeast, it was very dry and bitter. But by step feeding it, the bitterness went away, it reached a mild sweetness and when it finally stopped fermenting, the peach flavors came out. Thank you. I also made your Beginner mead, and it is lovely. I have six Bottles of each mead now aging. I started a batch of the spiced mead on the winter solstice and will start a batch of the ginger mead and one of apple melomel in the new year. Thanks for giving me one more reason to start keeping bees again.
Bow did you make the spiced mead? I am looking to make it too , but i do not know a reliable recepie, they all look so different
This pasteurization idea is what I've been looking for after two batches of too dry cider! Thanks so much!
For those that are worried about controlling the temperature for pasteurization, you could get a Sous-vide the basic unit cost around $80 and you just dial in the temperature and don't have to worry you're going to over heat it plus you can use it to cook a real good steak. Great video by the way! Learning a lot from your channel.
If you do this... set the temp to 140 f, otherwise bad things can happen.
Actually, that is a great idea. I just happened to get one of these the other day, now I have a good reason to own it, LOL.
Good job.
I agree with you on the "coffee " slurping.
No one really needs that......but your video was very concise, clear, well spoken and accurate.
Well done Sir.
I was drinking coffee while watching this and listening to the bloop bloop bloop of my cider under my desk.
Back Sweetening for Dummies! Thank you Brian.
getting alton brown vibes here, specially with "that's another video"
Been brewing for 20 years and still learn things everyday. Tried all kinds of things to make my cider sweeter. None worked. Thanks! Will try some of methods mentioned.
Henry VIII spooned sugar into his wine. I remember how weird that sounded when I first heard that, until I started making mead.
There was a guy in a movie that did that too... never understood. Then I made wine, and a light bulb went off, lol.
Henry VIII also got super obese after getting hurt and stopped being active 😂
Thank you for this video. For a new home brewer who's first batch is as dry as the desert, this will help greatly.
I used your traditional mead recipe recently for my first brew. I used a high tolerance yeast because I want it to go dry, and then I plan to stepfeed it like you've described. Hopefully I end up with a high abv, sweet mead! we'll see how its progressing in 4-6 weeks I guess
How did it turn out because I'm doing the exact same thing
Updates HOW DID IT TURN OUT?!
We love your videos. All our equipment is arriving in the next few days for the first attempts at Mead minus carboys for racking. Kimchee comes in the same jars so my Korean wife has a collection of 50+ in the garage.
I made your traditional mead and back sweetened it with 12 oz. of Cinnamon Red Hots. It is awesome and definitely sweet
I named it Firebird in honor of Carthage College Football 🏈 where my son plays. Thanks some much for your great channel.
I love these videos. I went from "maybe making mead would be cool. I should try it sometime" to buying all that I need and being a few days away from starting thanks to your channel
Awesome! Everyone should brew. It’s really simple and inexpensive.
You thought it was simple I thought it was simple. But you came up with some things I never thought about. Thanks man
I pasteurize my sparkling sweet cider easiest way is to use water bath and a sousvide. Or an electric smoker set to lowest setting like 150. Place one bottle of water in with your brew so you can use thermometer to check temp once you reach temp hold it there until padtuerized. You can google temperature and time tables for pastuerizaton.
So, are you guys ever willing to have a viewer send in a bottle? It would be neat to see you two diagnose the mead. I'll be first and send you two! Thats a real offer. I do think it would be lots of fun on Friday or Saturday nights to see something like that; or better yet, whenever you felt like doing it.
We do not accept brews from anyone but licensed wineries and meaderies :)
@@CitySteadingBrews Meh.
Mehhh!!!!
Meh.
@@mycrofttanstaafl9517 send me some, I love drinking random stuff people from the internet send me, YOLO
I was wondering when the internet would show up..
@@mycrofttanstaafl9517 From their point of view, drinking random brews from internet people is a little risky
A thorough addition to the public knowledge of home brewing. Thank you both for sharing this knowledge.
The info about carbonating and pasteurization was super helpful! I made a mango apple cider last year that tasted great, but I drank it still because I was terrified of trying to carbonate. I’m ready to give it another go.
This was such an informative video! Thank you so much. I like how you inform us about how yeast actually works and why certain methods work better than others. This was very appreciated!
Glad it was helpful!
*Do I understand this correctly: you shouldn’t back sweeten unless pasteurized, or the yeast has maxed out the alcohol it can tolerate?
*Or does the yeast die once it has finished 2nd fermentation, and I can back sweeten then. Or will it restart fermentation because living yeast is still there?
Thank you for everything you have taught me. 😊
I watched all of your videos that I thought the answer would be in, but I still don’t understand.
Okay... pasteurization isn't normally necessary.
Times when you want to pasteurize:
1) You want a sweet carbonated brew
2) You want to stop a brew from fermenting further when you backsweeten.
Generally speaking, yeast have a tolerance level for alcohol. Generally, if you're past that level, they won't ferment more. But, that means you cannot carbonate. So, you need to carbonate then pasteurize with plenty of sugars still in it for both carbonation and sweetness. If left alone, they will explode, but by pasteurizing after some carbonation happens, it stops fermentation and you have a sweet bubbly brew.
If you are backsweetening, and you have not reached the alcohol tolerance of your yeast, then pasteurizing will keep it from refermenting and keep it sweet and not raise the alcohol level.
Make sense?
@@CitySteadingBrews YES 👍
Thank you!
Glad I found this. I am a gear addicted homebrewer but my wife only drinks cider. I am getting here a little cider kit for Christmas. She only drinks sweet cider though. Now I have some directions to go when we give it a whirl.
Enjoy!
Eleventy-seventh! I felt left out. Good video, always at the intersection of Information Street and Entertainment Avenue.
Love that!
Great way to put it Shannon!
Fantastic way of explaining the correlation between Yeast, Sugar, and Alcohol
Slytherin huh? 😁. Just getting ready to try a gallon batch of Gingerbeer. Just need to drink 11 fliptop bottles of Grolsch between now and next weekend 😂😂😄
John Silva sounds like a good time!
I just started the Ginger beer as well. Good luck
Ginger beer bros! I just bottled/carbonated my 2nd batch. Cheers to ginger beer!
Thanks. Coffee is a vitamin. Nothing wrong with that at all.
I've been trying to get into brewing and whenever I think I've figured it out I have more questions and think I did it all wrong. The videos are really helpful. I've been doing step feeding without knowing what it's called and whether or not you should even be doing this. Hearing that it's a real thing and a viable option eases my mind.
You're my favorite brewing channel. Thanks for the help!
Wow, thanks!
Usually it will far exceed your target ABV. You’ll know by the concussion type hangover that you get from it! Unfortunately, best practice is to dump it or like you said add sugar at time of opening. Great videos!!
What?
This was the highest cs video that came up when I search for how to make mead at number 5.
Thank you so much for this. The last part, where the big batch is still in the fermenter and very dry...is Exactly where I am at with my brew. This video popped up in my feed exactly when i needed it.
Wonderful! Thank you for watching!
Thank you.,i now feel little sweeter.,and yes by just adding sugar to your glass just like adding sugar to your coffe work just fine.thanks again.
Thank you I will try this I watched your vide on how to make mead ( honey, black tea, raisins, orange) first batch came out great it was sweet! Second batch was dry and I didn't know what to do so I'm glad to find another video helping with this! You two are awesome!
Could have been less honey in the second?
@@CitySteadingBrews I thought I put the same amount in but maybe I need a new scale! No worries I have a bee keeper who sells honey (I heart bees) 2 minutes from the house I'll just pick up some more and continue the adventure
I just back-sweetened some very dry apple wine with some clear apple juice (what you call cider in the US), it's given it a really appley taste and has softened the harshness of the dry wine beautifully.
This helped a lot. I'm going to do the step sweetening if my brew is not quite to my liking. 1/2 c sugar wait a week...still fermenting? Add another 1/2 c of sugar and wait another couple weeks.
I'm just learning and your video was exceptional! Everything you said made perfect sense and you're a great teacher! Thanks!
Always failed when it came to back sweatening. I gave up but after watching this video i think iĺl start making mead again :) Thanks
Go for it!
found this channel while searching for making rice wine. I love your videos. When I back sweeten, I typically use corn syrup. And I always chuckle when you talk about bottle bombs....I made one a few years ago in a 1 gal carboy. It exploded on my dining room table. Fortunately no one was in there. It literally sprayed all 4 walls. We were finding glass shards for weeks. Now I don't normally ferment in glass :P
The only way a fermenter will explode is if you don't use an airlock.
Ha... This was one of the most informative videos I have seen in a while. Good job.
I am about ready to start my first mead. Please, wish me luck ! It’s going to be a learning process.
I'm loving the deep dive. Lots to learn here, thank you
I had to check out this video to see if it is ok to sweeten in primary or secondary. It's been two weeks and fermentation has stopped. I tasted ginger apple wine and it is too dry. I may sweeten in secondary so there will be less sediments. This is my first-ever wine. Didn't take a reading because my hydrometer broke. So everything is blind brewing. Thanks for the video. So helpful.
Probably rack, then sweeten and pasteurize so it doesnt keep fermenting
Your video was very helpful! Answered alot of the questions I had. I liked the way you presented the info. You didn't talk down like you were talking to a bunch of idiots, but you were clear and direct without all the overly technical stuff. (For those of us who are new and maybe feel a little like idiots.) Awesome video. Thanks
Great straightforward explanation. My local brew shop recommended dextrose in fermentation to up fermentable sugar content in a cider I was planning. Dextrose (made from corn) has a neutral flavor profile and won't interfere with the cider flavor.
I just made some habiscus mead, with 🍋 citrus peeling, and backsweetened with grade A 🍁 maple syrup
Great video. In a past SMaSH brew, I had used Lav 71B, was aware it wasn't going to hit the tolerance of the yeast and bottled with a few mg of sweetner to get the carbonation in the bottles.
One thing I'd like to be explored is the process of re-using yeast. I don't know the exact terminology, but the same way that beer brewers use the same yeast for decades by letting the yeast grow and multiply in another container. I hope that makes sense.
Was looking for a alternative to back sweeten wine v.s. using potassium sorbate. That's interesting bottling the wine and then cork. Fill the large pot warm water to 140 deg then place bottles in 10-15 minutes to kill the yeast. Makes sense. Thanks for the great tip.
I'm a little confused. Potassium Sorbate is not for back sweetening....
Unless you mean an alternative to using it when backsweetening, then yes! I agree.
I JUST did my 1st rack on 15 gallons of
Fig wine 🍷. I used approximately 20 pounds of frozen figs per 5 gallons ( my 2 fig bushes produced over 75 lbs Summer 21)
and 10 lbs of brown sugar. This is the reason why I am watching this video.
I do not want a dry fig wine 😩
I also used 2 strains of yeast that tolerates high abv 18%.
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There's no reason for 2 yeast strains, as one will likely overtake the other.
The best Cider I make is also the easiest (if you have a keezer)
Store bought juice at a OG of 1.05, bumped to 1.06 with brown sugar, dumped in a brew bucket.
After about a week or so it's Fermented dry to 1.00 FG, with an ABV of about 8%!! I then rack to a glass carboy. I put the whole carboy in my keezer and cold crash for a week.
I then transfer to my keg, throw in a few cans of concentrate (I also enjoy it dry on occasion) and force carb it for a few days. At this point the first glass I pour is sludgy. Every glass after is a beautiful hazy cider. It never lasts long enough for me to be concerned about any residual build up of less. The cold keezer keeps it hazy and cold.
To stop fermentation I just put the bottles in the refrigerator. But pasteurization works great too. Especially if you don’t have the fridge space
Cold slows fermentation but does it stop it. I know people who have had explosions in the fridge.
You have just saved me from having a nervous breakdown. I'm RUclips drunk ! Way too much info. that my brain doesn't compute. I can understand you. You make sense. And, you're entertaining. Now I can finish. I just subscribed and I'll be back. Thank you !
Video perfect timing my Black Current Apple Cider just finished and it pretty dry. Tasty but dry, I was looking for something with a tad bit more sweetness to it. I was just going to attempt to back sweeten this weekend. Since I made a 5 gallon batch may do only half because it's still pretty tasty dry
I understood!!!! I think I can....I think I can!!! You made something complicated into an oohhh now I see moment.
I actually can use this video to show people what I'm talking about thank you
I'm just getting back into home brewing since retiring. I traveled a lot. But as I recall (I was doing primarily beer), But what are advantages/disadvantages of using dextrose as the sweetener. I was under the impression it gave you a cleaner flavor. Thanks Love your videos by the way.
I just use table sugar or brown sugar.
Currently making a peach wine and it’s soo sour but still fermenting and I was wondering how I’m going to make it sweet at the end but this video answered all my questions
This was incredibly helpful!! I was wondering how I could backsweeten a cider I'm making in case it became too dry, but without pasteurizing. I'm excited to try this!!
Without pasteurizing, I think the best option would be to use non fermentable sugars. They say erythritol is the closest to sugar that doesn't have a lot of off flavors. I've never used it, but a lot of people do
Double checking that I did this right. Started my first Vikings blood with tart cherries(3#) and a fruit mix(4# raspberries, black raspberries, blueberries) with 15# of honey for 5 gallons. Starting gravity of 1.11 using Lalvin K1-1116. Racked off the fruit after 1 month, gravity .996. Gravity stable at .996 so roughly 15% alcohol and still stable after another month. Added 5# more honey looking for a semi-sweet finish. Current gravity after additional honey 1.028. Did not want to back sweeten in bottling as way to much fermentation. Shooting for about 18% alcohol with about 2% semi-sweet. Thanks in advance.
Awesome video, thanks for adding the Celsius in there, yeah I can google it but it's a nice touch. The blooper at the end was funny as all heck should do that more often!
Thanks for the information! I just started my fermentation adventures last year and so far have been very successful at making apple cider and mead, as well as fruit vinegars. I’ve been binge watching your videos, so many cool recipes I’m going to try! Cheers to you and Derica!
Thank you for these videos! I recently have tried home brews with some mead! I wanted to make it a carbonated mead and your pasteurization video and this video helped me make sure I didn’t end up with some glass bombs! Thanks!
I got you bromosapien! You and your wife are extremely entertaining and doing what you do very well. You've answered a lot of questions that I was curious about. I'm glad that I followed your channel. It's been quite inspirational in fact.
Awesome thank you!
Thank youuuuu. This video would get my desired result.
Love all your video's,you inspired me to go out get some apple's and start brewing,the one tip I took from you was to keep to one technique,I started confusing myself by looking at other contributors,well done and keep up the good work, Andy UK
Good stuff
God I can't believe I just found you all! I have a batch of pear wine that has fermented dryer than I wanted (Using the apparently HIGHLY contested EC1118) and I was looking into ways to back sweeten it a bit Love this content and love the channel! Now I've got a two year backlog of content to get through haha! Cheers!!
Thank you this was just what I was looking for!
Love the Walt Disney World coffee cup. I'm from the house of Gryffindor.
My lid flew off but the mead was good because of your advice I know more for next time
🍻🍻👍🇨🇦 1 year in , making another batch. I liked it 1 month in and drank all but 1 within 3 months, OMG drank last bottle 12 months and amazed how much better it was.
Love your vidoes wish I had the patience to wait weeks on weeks to sweater I just disolve sugar by the glass
After primary when I found my meads to be dry, I just took a glass with 100ml mead and added honey until I liked the taste, then put the same ratio of honey into the big batch. Now they're sitting in conditioning. Will taste again after more months have passed, I figured.
I've been thinking about trying to make a sack mead at some point. This video has been very helpful in terms of the back sweetening process and I just might get one started in a few weeks. Thank you both very much for the information and advice
my home brewed cider is ALWAYS dry. I love making it a Champagne cider.
Great Clip...I'm a home beer brewer, and I'm looking to make a (my first) Peach-strawberry sparkling (sweet'ish) wine...info heped a lot, thanks!
Go for it!
Well youve sorted out my mystery. It had eaten all the sugar. Thank you 🎉
Loved this video! Makes things so easy to understand
Thanks for all your help Brian!!
Whats funny is I was going to comment on one of your other videos where you talked about back sweetening but I forgot to. RUclips algorithm sends me this!
Hello Derica and Brian, I am late to the game trying to research all your older videos. Thankyou both for your inspiration and excellant teachings. I am sure this is not a new idea, I did just pasturize a blueberry mead... your recipe which is incredible but is dry. Now , my inspiration which I have not found which has worked incredibly is and again I am sure this is not new, I introduced a lb of bochet with a have stick of cinnamon and a tsp of vanilla the readings went from .996 to1.010 and is the most successful mead I have made. It is not overly sweet but the carmel ,smoky notes are intense and a pleasure. It was interesting to have the pure flavours of a bochet and does not get lost in primary. Just my experience and thankyou for all you are sharing your knowledge.
We taste and sweeten to our liking before pasteurizing. If it was dry, no reason to pasteurize.
I watched this whilst drinking wine. I may have to watch again...
Awosome info. I made dandellion honey. Which I use to sweetened anything now I have another purpose for it. Thank you.
This was extremely helpful! Thank you for sharing this. I've been worrying about how to pasteurize my brew w/o affecting the taste "too much" and I think your method of bringing water to 180°F and then putting my bottles into that bath is going to be my answer. Especially with my peach/habanero wine that I'm about to start.
We can offer one better. Heat the water to 160f. Put an open bottle of water in the middle. when you put the bottles in after removing from the heat. Monitor that water bottle. Keep it at 140f for 15-20 minutes. Done. Much safer method!
Even better.. Good looking out. Thank you again. 👍
Thanks a lot. Have learnt lots from your videos.
This video helped me on the question I left on another. Thank you oh and I ordered the hydrometer you suggested should be here tomorrow. Thanks again for all your help.
You speak on being careful with backsweetening as you could restart fermentation. I've got a plum melomel that is aging currently and I'm think it will need bscksweetening. I'm thinking about 24hr before I'm ready to bottle I'll use a campden tablet the back sweeten. In theory this should prevent fermentation restarting. Thoughts? What your opinion of campden tablets? I've noticed you've never used them.
Love this channel and these videos. I've learned so much and gotten do great ideas from you guys. Thanks.
It's not the way we do things, and I'm not certain it will work.
This question is just about mead. Would you recommend adding vanilla beans and strawberries in the fermenting carboy or put in the racked carboy? Or should I put one in the other? Also would you recommend putting the entire split vanilla bean in or would you recommend I make a extract with bourbon, vodka, whiskey, brandy etc.
Thanks! Love your videos!
What they said. Exactly :)
Great thanks for this! I found out a really great way to increase the alcohol content in wine use 2 hydrometers instantly doubled the alcohol~!
Lol
Best explainer on this topic I’ve come across, thanks Brian. Question: if I do the step feeding method in my fermenter (a 3 gallon carboy) and bring it to the maximum alcohol tolerance of the yeast, does that mean I’ll basically be stuck with a non-carbonated cider when I bottle it?.
Yes. Once the yeast hits tolerance it can’t ferment any more so… no carbonation.
I am making a Quince Vanilla Cinnamon Mead that has stopped fermenting after 2 weeks. I used D47, since I read that is what is used for Riesling wines and I wanted a semi-sweet style Mead. It is currently VERY dry, though the aromatics are beautiful. Currently it looks like it is at about a little over 9%, which means it is only half way to the max yeast tolerance.
I am going to rack it from the brew bucket to a carboy to get it to secondary fermentation and remove it from the fruit and am thinking about back sweetening it. I am out of the same honey that I had used previously, but to help with the complexity of the mead and quince I used a 1/2lb block of piloncillo (which gave it an amazing caramel odor), so I was thinking of adding a slightly cooked (caramelized) 1/2lb piloncillo to the carboy during secondary fermentation. Do you think this will allow for a slightly sweeter, slightly higher in ABV mead that has the tasting notes I am looking for?
I'd remove the fruit but don't rack it yet if you want to ferment it more.
@@CitySteadingBrews That's exactly what I did. Might add back the cinnamon stick when racking and possibly more sugar but so far I am liking it's flavoring. The sourness mellowed out, but it's still pretty dry. Thanks!
I acted rashly this morning and back sweetened by putting sugar in my wine after its second racking. The SG was .99 so I figured fermentation was over. I think it started fermentation again! I hope that I haven't destroyed my wine!
Hi Brian, love your videos, I have just started the hobby of brewing, and have watched your brewing videos several times trying to get it right, I have a traditional, a JAO and some ginger beer brewing there two weeks old so far, hope you continue to make making videos on brewing, Thanks !!
Thank you, you make everything as easy as it can be. I am trying to make the wine you made from grape juice. The first batch came out so good my girlfriend who does not drink said it tasted good. It tasted like Welche's Grape juice with after taste of wine. Sooo good I think I drank about a gallon. However, my next 2 tries or batches have turned out really dry. I am new at this but with your help I am figuring out how to make that first batch again. I think the key is checking the fermentation and stopping it while there is still juice sugars present. keep doing what your doing
The key is doing EXACTLY the same thing we did. Same juice (or as close as you can get), same amount of sugar and same yeast. Any changes will affect the final outcome. Here's our latest simple wine video to help out: ruclips.net/video/vXmrBmAEcvg/видео.html
Another great video guys!
If you used the pasteurised method to retain the sweetness level you want and to kill the yeast to stop further carbonation and fermentation. How much would the ABV increase whilst it is in the bottle during the second fermentation?
Also, how long does the second take and when should you pasteurise the bottles to kill the yeast?
TIA!
If you pasteurize, the ABV will not go up. The yeast are dead.
I highly suggest watching some of our "making of" videos. We have many! They will show you everything you are asking. It's far too much to explain in one response.
Thank you for tour video! I just fermented my first wine! I was wondering how to sweeten it. So my question is: if I pasteurize the bottles while there are a little bubbles, then add syrup, will it spoil the wine?
No, it won't spoil it.