It's good that there's at least one John Brzenk, but let's not go so far as to say everyone should be like that. If everyone was like that, the sport would never get any attention and it would be super boring to watch. John is great because he's one of the few like that, but I'm glad it's rare.
Being a gentleman is the most important thing for the sport? No wonder Armwrestling hasn’t caught fire yet. Trying to see the “ gentleman” crowd… for Armwrestling…
I agree. John and Levan are good examples of guys who are so good at what they do that they don't have to resort to mind games, or worse, rudeness or intimidation. They know they're going to win and therefore they're relaxed and confident. Women like that in guys, not insecurity.
FYI normally these two legends would not be competing against each but Allen Fisher was there first and John Brzenk was nowhere to be seen so Allen Fisher entered the heavy weight class too. At the last minute John Brzenk showed up and the rest was history.
i h8 competition arm wrestling, there is no such thing as cheap moves. i prefer a good clean arm wrestling match. no wrist popping shit, no body weight assistance, and no elbow moving spazzes
So u didn't knew that since you born to 60 years old of life you can keep the same power u had on your 30's or get even stronger? sorry if any mistake, im not english
Fisher arm wrestles like a weasel and a cheat. He jumped the go the first time and only wins with a flash hit from the go usually. Cheap and sneaky. Damn his style. He has no real fans.
A few years ago, I saw Allen Fisher ordering Chinese food at a food court near Sacramento. Was amazed at how ripped he was and how massive his hands and forearms were. I should have asked him for a selfie, lol.
@@lobo53695 Yeah, it's so crazy how strong some people are in orders of magnitude. Imagine an amateur guy probably toys with 99% of people, then a senior toys with him, then a national makes the senior look like a kid. Then you have people that are world class athletes that toy with that national. Then goats like John and Devon and Denis are probably so much stronger than that guy. Then there is Levan who's probably twice as strong as the latter.
@@Nick.L. exactly! That's how I think of it. It fries my brain. Like, how freaking strong can 'that' dude be if he toys with 'that' dude who crushed a different guy who can beat any guy on the street with complete ease etc. Kind of doesn't make sense in your brain! When Dennis toyed with Devon it was mind boggling lol
You probably don't know him that well then, watch some of his performances in big tournaments during his prime, he enjoyed screaming and flexing just like other people. True, he's not an asshole or someone that acts like an idiot during the match, but he still enjoys himself.
@@lepe true, but he actually talked about this at least once sorta. He said he found that when he let the excitement get to his composure like that that his focus could slip and lead to him losing. So when he recognized that problem, he decided to explicitly make efforts to remain calm and collected throughout his matches.
Andrei Mateus Mancilla Herrera he’s still not as crazy as matt mask and travis bagent. To be honest john is still one of the most composed armwrestlers but cyplenkov is a whole another level of calm. True definition of a gentle giant.
Although Fisher is a legend in his own right, Brzenk has been pulling against ridiculously strong heavyweights and super heavyweights over the years so it just wasn't likely that Fisher could throw anything at Brzenk that he hasn't encountered many times over.
@ Brzenk was a middleweight most of his career at 195 I believe. The thing I like about Brzenk when he lost to much bigger guys in heavier weight classes he never once made an excuse about size as far as I know.
@@DexterHaven - I know that I've seen them matched up before. But I don't remember how it went (other than John, winning..of course). Let me guess, Cobra put his arm in jeopordy and it looked like his arm was going to break...but it didn't? hehe Every time Corba loses, it looks like his arm is going to snap. He puts himself in some very dangerous positions. The dude has iron rods for a humerus
Fisher is one of the best of all-time, but Brzenk is THE best of all-time. Yes, there are a ton of 280 pound monsters out there today; some who are allowed to compete but shouldn't (Cyplenkov). Accomplishments, impact on the sport, and reign of relative dominance are all as important as head-to-head matches.
I saw both of their arms get measured after the ROTN and actually, Fisher's forearm was 14 even with his arm straight out and forearm flexed. Brzenk's was 15.5". Brzenk's upper arm was 18.25'" (he was surprised it was that big). Fisher's was 15.75". Fisher's forearms look about the same size as Brzenk's but it must just be because they are so big compared to the rest of his body.
Weight matters to a degree, until it doesn't. Check out Brzenk vs. Richard Lupkes from 1988 on YT. Jonh also gave away over 300 lbs. to Cleave Dean and won anyway. If weight matters that much, that should not happen. But it did. @@debanitdas520
It's so impressive the way John just snatches up Allen's hand like it's nothing. I don't think people realize just how difficult that is to do on Allen. He has abnormally large hands (Allen Fisher does) that are often compared to catcher mitts. Anyone that can just snatch up that hand like that must have extreme power. I've only ever seen John do it with that kind of ease.
He's big, he's strong, he's young. That can't be denied, but look at what Brzenk has done for decades. It is unmatched in sports. Nothing to even compare it to.
dvr1337 imo, it's easier to be champ in lightweight division, rather than dominate in heavyweight, cause it's more traumatic, and yeah, John could beat superheavyweights while being just heavyweight
Darchan Darchan I'm pretty sure it's all relative. Larger weight classes are going to have stronger guys on the whole but by and large getting to the top of your own weight division is going to be tough in any case. People who do that and are still exceptional can tango with dudes in higher weight classes - this applies to smaller and bigger dudes. Brzenk is a beast, but last time they went up he got toasted by Larratt, who has a significant size advantage. I know Brzenk has beaten him in the past but Devon is just getting stronger. Hell Devon just took down Jerry Cadorette despite a 100 or so pound weight disadvantage. My point is there are too many variables to say one weight class is easier than another and it just comes down to which two competitors you're talking about and how they compare at any given time.
You may keep the same power, but muscle regeneration, hormone/blood delivery, bone density, nervous system "firing" time, etc., all slow down with age. Once you cross 44-45, it degenerates quickly. Power can stay, but all of those other little factors make it much harder on the old legends to keep up with the Larratt's, Kostadinov's and Cyplenkovs of the world.
Poor bastard didn't stand a chance, yet Fisher is a legend in his own weightclass nonetheless, but Fisher would be better suited to pull guys like Geoff Hale (Halelraiser) and the likes.
My response to this, is Voevoda beat him once in tournament, it's not enough. He should have stayed around for 2-3 years, or a do a few super matches, so it's not like (it's an off-day for Brzenk, or he just got a good pull or whatever it is). Consistency winning is better than winning.
fucking hell have i seen bullshit on here, vevoda has age and wieght on john whereas experience is on johns side, the only thing that would make the match even against said opponents is age, if they were the same age john would win hands down, this guy pulls young guys in their prime, john is the greatest armwrestler and will remain so for an extremely long time, no one can match what he has done for the sport and what he has earnt within the sport... legend and always will be... john brzenk
wow, i've always wanted to see these two guys pull. I never doubted john for a second, but i know allen has a good rep. BUT like always, john prevails! Good job, and excellent video. i cant wait to see john rematch devon larate (spelling?) and win
@kevlarunderwear22 NO not for the actual pulling. The weigh-ins yes. Have you ever seen john brzenk beat the 700 lbs cleave dean? If weight was an issue, then he'd beat everyone. It's illegal to put your weight on top of your hands and press down with your chest. A tricep press is okay though. If your weight is pulling you down, your bicep still has to pull your opponents arm down. Weigh in just match you up appropriately. A 40 year 300 lbs dude against a 18 year old 150 boy is pretty unfair.
At this point in Allen's career, age, and then John just being heavier, not much of a chance. Always amazed at the natural genes that Fisher has. John is just the top bar of the sport that no one else will ever surpass. It is always harder when you are the guy who done all this stuff first. John is "the goal" for all these younger guys, and some may break some of his accomplishments, but they have him as a goal to look at. John didn't really have anyone, he was the first man on the moon of real mainstream arm wrestling. ANd even with him as a goal, I'm not sure anyone will do it quite as long at that level. Maybe Michael Todd and Devon will get close, they've both been at this a long time. But even they aren't quite as competitive with the foreign monsters as John was.
@gh4pwner But THATS armwrestling dude. If you pull with a straight arm and no body positioning adjustment, you risk breaking your arm. Besides, there really is no "body weight assistance" invovled. The weigh of the body is useless if the bicep isnt strong enough to pull with it. You can weigh 500 lbs, doesnt mean your arm is strong enough to pull the other guy down.
John Brzenk is such a gentleman on the arm wrestling table, that is the most important thing for the sport, Great example for arm wrestling.
It's good that there's at least one John Brzenk, but let's not go so far as to say everyone should be like that. If everyone was like that, the sport would never get any attention and it would be super boring to watch. John is great because he's one of the few like that, but I'm glad it's rare.
@@maxxxmodelz4061 but if the boss is like that, then it just suits him
Being a gentleman is the most important thing for the sport?
No wonder Armwrestling hasn’t caught fire yet.
Trying to see the “ gentleman” crowd… for Armwrestling…
I agree. John and Levan are good examples of guys who are so good at what they do that they don't have to resort to mind games, or worse, rudeness or intimidation. They know they're going to win and therefore they're relaxed and confident. Women like that in guys, not insecurity.
and thats why he is the greatest of all time of armwrestling
I love it when John nods like he was saying: "gg, you tried"
Brzenk looked so comfortable before it even started
geezus brzenk looked strong there
it seems to me that john always holds you there like a brick wall, and waits for the right time and wam, there he wins again
FYI normally these two legends would not be competing against each but Allen Fisher was there first and John Brzenk was nowhere to be seen so Allen Fisher entered the heavy weight class too. At the last minute John Brzenk showed up and the rest was history.
Brzenk went through them all and defeated EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM
allen had zero chance
what kind of event was this? since usually there are different classes of body weigt
John dropped to 198. Allen pulled up.
It was an overall I believe.
+Matthew Craig
Really? I wonder what weight Allen was
Allen Fisher has born in 1957? So Wikipedia is wrong, because there it says that he has born in 1944...
does allan have a bigger hand?
Start at 1:07
John Machine
prime vs prime, brzenk would still own fisher anyday
Allen is like 53 now, back in his prime he could have given Brzenk a good go
*WITH EASE*
A human vs a machine... just impossible
Two goats meet
@NOTguineapigeon proof?
i h8 competition arm wrestling, there is no such thing as cheap moves. i prefer a good clean arm wrestling match. no wrist popping shit, no body weight assistance, and no elbow moving spazzes
Bald guy! what where you thinking?
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So u didn't knew that since you born to 60 years old of life you can keep the same power u had on your 30's or get even stronger?
sorry if any mistake, im not english
always has a female voice shouts to John "come on" can only be his wife ...
Allen is a legend in his weight class but Brzenk just toyed with him.
John are all times best arm wrestler (legend)
@True Grit sure he is 26 time champ, been at it for what 30+ years? Whats your definition of legend?
Yeah, there was no chance there. Allen could have use both hands to John's one. Allen is one of the greatest in his class, but John is the GOAT.
Fisher arm wrestles like a weasel and a cheat. He jumped the go the first time and only wins with a flash hit from the go usually. Cheap and sneaky. Damn his style. He has no real fans.
@True Grit u don't know shit about fisher, the guy is an incredible armwrestler.
A few years ago, I saw Allen Fisher ordering Chinese food at a food court near Sacramento. Was amazed at how ripped he was and how massive his hands and forearms were. I should have asked him for a selfie, lol.
Should have asked him to crush your hands as an autograph
@Tony tone I disagree because u r wrong
He literally looks like Popeye lol
Should’ve asked him for a forearm/ hand pic...LMFAO
@@pooplicker8889 *holds up limp hand* "coool"
I have pulled Allen on a practice table, he was a wall. John is super human
If Allen was a wall, brzenk must be a whole damn mountain 😂💪
@@lobo53695 Yeah, it's so crazy how strong some people are in orders of magnitude. Imagine an amateur guy probably toys with 99% of people, then a senior toys with him, then a national makes the senior look like a kid. Then you have people that are world class athletes that toy with that national. Then goats like John and Devon and Denis are probably so much stronger than that guy. Then there is Levan who's probably twice as strong as the latter.
@@Nick.L. The levels are definitely jaw dropping. Levan is a straight up planet lmao
@@Nick.L. exactly! That's how I think of it. It fries my brain. Like, how freaking strong can 'that' dude be if he toys with 'that' dude who crushed a different guy who can beat any guy on the street with complete ease etc. Kind of doesn't make sense in your brain! When Dennis toyed with Devon it was mind boggling lol
Isn't John simply a bigger version of Allen?
I very like Brzenk. He's very quiet and calm man. Not a crazy showman like all other
You probably don't know him that well then, watch some of his performances in big tournaments during his prime, he enjoyed screaming and flexing just like other people.
True, he's not an asshole or someone that acts like an idiot during the match, but he still enjoys himself.
Yes, you don't know him very well lol.
He is also a showman who like the screaming and violence lol
@@AndreiMateusMancillaHerrera19 Violence? I don't think so :)
@@lepe true, but he actually talked about this at least once sorta. He said he found that when he let the excitement get to his composure like that that his focus could slip and lead to him losing. So when he recognized that problem, he decided to explicitly make efforts to remain calm and collected throughout his matches.
Andrei Mateus Mancilla Herrera he’s still not as crazy as matt mask and travis bagent. To be honest john is still one of the most composed armwrestlers but cyplenkov is a whole another level of calm. True definition of a gentle giant.
Although Fisher is a legend in his own right, Brzenk has been pulling against ridiculously strong heavyweights and super heavyweights over the years so it just wasn't likely that Fisher could throw anything at Brzenk that he hasn't encountered many times over.
@ Brzenk was a middleweight most of his career at 195 I believe. The thing I like about Brzenk when he lost to much bigger guys in heavier weight classes he never once made an excuse about size as far as I know.
@@Olds79Starfire but didn't he beat those guys he lost against like that monster of a man richard lupkes
Where you going buddy?
Haha Brzenk vs Michael Todd when Todd tried to hide under the table
No he was talking about me
*Michael Todd has left the chat*
Under the table bud..
Man Brzenk barely tried it seemed, he's just that strong and dominant. Fisher is a legend, but even he couldn't beat John
Travis could...left handed of course...not right handed.
Zzzzzz... he's also. Not 50 years old
Brzenk probably has a 30-40 lb weight advantage.
Check out Brzenk vs. Cobra Rhodes too. John barely tried and Cobra had fits.
@@DexterHaven - I know that I've seen them matched up before. But I don't remember how it went (other than John, winning..of course). Let me guess, Cobra put his arm in jeopordy and it looked like his arm was going to break...but it didn't? hehe Every time Corba loses, it looks like his arm is going to snap. He puts himself in some very dangerous positions. The dude has iron rods for a humerus
Allen trying to hook, lmaooo
Fisher is a 26 time world champion though so he's one of the best of all time. Brzenk has hydraulics in his arms lol.
The "26 time world champion" is nonsense. Fisher is indeed a legend of the sport though.
@@lepe I agree
John looks like hes a lot bigger than fisher
@ Because he is, lol.
You must be delusional. So he won 26 world titles? Like jn 26 years? Mate I've never saw him win world class championship
not a fucking chance
I am watching this video 12/06/2024😏
Brzenk won the Over the Top comp in Las Vegas 1986 at age 20. amazing. he won the 250000 USD truck, but sold it and baught a corvette instead lol
EmotionalShredd lol
Fisher is one of the best of all-time, but Brzenk is THE best of all-time. Yes, there are a ton of 280 pound monsters out there today; some who are allowed to compete but shouldn't (Cyplenkov). Accomplishments, impact on the sport, and reign of relative dominance are all as important as head-to-head matches.
Laratt is the best of all time
@@tonymichaelmonchinski2624
Even Larratt says it's John..so does almost every pro arm wrestler
I saw both of their arms get measured after the ROTN and actually, Fisher's forearm was 14 even with his arm straight out and forearm flexed. Brzenk's was 15.5". Brzenk's upper arm was 18.25'" (he was surprised it was that big). Fisher's was 15.75". Fisher's forearms look about the same size as Brzenk's but it must just be because they are so big compared to the rest of his body.
Thanks for the stats.
This is not a matter of weight class....Brzenk has rediculous forearm strength.
It is a matter of weight class. Even an average heavyweight would likely beat Allen
Not entirely. John has beaten many heavy weights who's aboved his weight class and those who are much bigger than him.
Weight matters
Why is there weight classes then...lol
Weight matters to a degree, until it doesn't. Check out Brzenk vs. Richard Lupkes from 1988 on YT. Jonh also gave away over 300 lbs. to Cleave Dean and won anyway. If weight matters that much, that should not happen. But it did. @@debanitdas520
fisher is a lot smaller too.
but damn, his hand is massive.
It’s funny cause at the end they look to be the same night
Voevoda has at least seventy pounds on John. Even given that, John would have owned him in his prime.
It's so impressive the way John just snatches up Allen's hand like it's nothing. I don't think people realize just how difficult that is to do on Allen. He has abnormally large hands (Allen Fisher does) that are often compared to catcher mitts. Anyone that can just snatch up that hand like that must have extreme power. I've only ever seen John do it with that kind of ease.
Brzenk’s cup is way too strong for Fischer
He's big, he's strong, he's young. That can't be denied, but look at what Brzenk has done for decades. It is unmatched in sports. Nothing to even compare it to.
One of the few times John is bigger than his opponent
Not even 29 world champ Allan Fisher can step up to Brzenk sensei. Bow to the master.
29?
dvr1337 I think it was 26 times champ🤔Correct me if I am wrong tho🤔
dvr1337 imo, it's easier to be champ in lightweight division, rather than dominate in heavyweight, cause it's more traumatic, and yeah, John could beat superheavyweights while being just heavyweight
Darchan Darchan I'm pretty sure it's all relative. Larger weight classes are going to have stronger guys on the whole but by and large getting to the top of your own weight division is going to be tough in any case. People who do that and are still exceptional can tango with dudes in higher weight classes - this applies to smaller and bigger dudes. Brzenk is a beast, but last time they went up he got toasted by Larratt, who has a significant size advantage. I know Brzenk has beaten him in the past but Devon is just getting stronger. Hell Devon just took down Jerry Cadorette despite a 100 or so pound weight disadvantage. My point is there are too many variables to say one weight class is easier than another and it just comes down to which two competitors you're talking about and how they compare at any given time.
Robert Taylor John beat Devon in 2015
@trashbash2001 if weight wasnt an issue they wouldnt have weight divisions. it does matter
You may keep the same power, but muscle regeneration, hormone/blood delivery, bone density, nervous system "firing" time, etc., all slow down with age. Once you cross 44-45, it degenerates quickly. Power can stay, but all of those other little factors make it much harder on the old legends to keep up with the Larratt's, Kostadinov's and Cyplenkovs of the world.
Well, we're about to see that.
This comment didn't age very well xD
Fisher and Brzenk both had parts in the movie Over The Top, Brzenk was like 22 yrs old in it
how come this is the only match on you tube of these two arm wrestling? Did they really only compete once against each other...
alan will be doing this when he is 80 ;] see his love for it
I bet John's breakfast could wreck me at armwrestling
jiv32 huh?
John is the GOAT!
Poor bastard didn't stand a chance, yet Fisher is a legend in his own weightclass nonetheless, but Fisher would be better suited to pull guys like Geoff Hale (Halelraiser) and the likes.
Wow... 14years ols video ❤
Not even 151 time world champ Allen fisher could move the hydraulic arm
Two legends ....... fun to see Brzenk is just a freak!!!!!GOAT
Brzenk.. a legend!
Once John has your wrist there is no getting out
John with that fat end of the baseball bat forearm.
Easy win for the goat
Great
My response to this, is Voevoda beat him once in tournament, it's not enough. He should have stayed around for 2-3 years, or a do a few super matches, so it's not like (it's an off-day for Brzenk, or he just got a good pull or whatever it is). Consistency winning is better than winning.
This is how John would slam supers, if he was a super.
fucking hell have i seen bullshit on here, vevoda has age and wieght on john whereas experience is on johns side, the only thing that would make the match even against said opponents is age, if they were the same age john would win hands down, this guy pulls young guys in their prime, john is the greatest armwrestler and will remain so for an extremely long time, no one can match what he has done for the sport and what he has earnt within the sport... legend and always will be... john brzenk
Sheesh....Brzenk was not phased one bit
2 of the best USA Armwrestlers to ever live
Lol brzenk is crazy strong
wow, i've always wanted to see these two guys pull. I never doubted john for a second, but i know allen has a good rep. BUT like always, john prevails! Good job, and excellent video.
i cant wait to see john rematch devon larate (spelling?) and win
John face is like: go head bruh, do what you gotta do, I'm still going to beat you!
Fisher looks like an oldskool bruiser if he had a suit on he would look meek and mild but probably beat the living shit out of you if you crossed him
@kevlarunderwear22 NO not for the actual pulling. The weigh-ins yes. Have you ever seen john brzenk beat the 700 lbs cleave dean? If weight was an issue, then he'd beat everyone. It's illegal to put your weight on top of your hands and press down with your chest. A tricep press is okay though. If your weight is pulling you down, your bicep still has to pull your opponents arm down. Weigh in just match you up appropriately. A 40 year 300 lbs dude against a 18 year old 150 boy is pretty unfair.
this are 2 living legends - greeting to you john and Allen
At this point in Allen's career, age, and then John just being heavier, not much of a chance. Always amazed at the natural genes that Fisher has. John is just the top bar of the sport that no one else will ever surpass. It is always harder when you are the guy who done all this stuff first. John is "the goal" for all these younger guys, and some may break some of his accomplishments, but they have him as a goal to look at. John didn't really have anyone, he was the first man on the moon of real mainstream arm wrestling. ANd even with him as a goal, I'm not sure anyone will do it quite as long at that level. Maybe Michael Todd and Devon will get close, they've both been at this a long time. But even they aren't quite as competitive with the foreign monsters as John was.
Brzenk must have iron in his hands!
A proper stonewall was on display here.
2 of my favorite arm wrestlers right there!!!
Too big for allen
Isn’t that an arm break position he got himself into at the end there?
yep, but if his humerus can take it he can do it
@@cischsr2794 mine wasn’t able to lol
26 lần vô địch thế giới:huyền thoại ALLEN FISHER
Aaah two legends, but too much weight difference for Allen Fisher love them both
All say fisher is awfull or anything else but when was in golden days as champion awww how great are
Allen fischer is more jacked now then he was back then lol thays crazy
This is the year when Brzenk beat the big Cyplenkov, no chance for Fisher.
Both legends.
Allan has no chance. Brzenk had too much of everything.
John berserk should be hisbreal name he's like Broly on fuckin steroids 🙌
i believe i read somewhere that john took steroids that's why he was dominant for 25 years
JAAJAJAJ le gano como si fuera a un niño de 5 años, Allen Fisher no sirve
fucking weird how such a skinny guy can have such a big arm and hand..
freddie mercury vs john brzenk
A BRZENK LE DA RISA FISHER... BRZENK ES EL MEJOR DE LA HISTORIA
U need to disguise Brzenk and challenge ppl.
John was Like an Anaconda taking down a defenseless Gazelle. Respects to Fishers weight class dominance though.
super massive black hole vs john brzenk next pls
Did John get $500 for beating Allen? 😅
@sdeevooo then why do people that are clearly stronger like Cyplenkov lose so easily?
@gh4pwner But THATS armwrestling dude. If you pull with a straight arm and no body positioning adjustment, you risk breaking your arm. Besides, there really is no "body weight assistance" invovled. The weigh of the body is useless if the bicep isnt strong enough to pull with it. You can weigh 500 lbs, doesnt mean your arm is strong enough to pull the other guy down.
Looks like Allen FISHer got fried ;-)
Brzenk is a true powerhouse.