I’m a braves fan and that game was painful to watch. But man, I can’t help but just sit in awe of DeGrom. I’ve never seen someone make batters look so helpless at the plate. He is truly something special
He is amazing. Even more effortless in person! He looks flawless. He’s the epitome of a good pitcher, the aura he exudes helps him as well, as he seems very concentrated & confident.
deGrom has perfect mechanics for him. He's long and lanky. That low 3/4 arm slot works for him. He does have elite shoulder/hip separation. He's on time every time.
I think Degrom has kind of “broke” pitching. There have always been 2 kinds of dominant pitchers for the last 20 years. 1. The Ace Starter- a starter with high end stuff- including a mid-high ninety fastball and a ++ breaking pitch to go along with two average options. This is the kind of pitcher who “sets-up” hitters by establishing different quadrants of the zone, changing the eye level of the hitter and then getting outs by forcing the hitter to extend on pitches outside of the zone. This guy can go two or three times through a lineup because he can vary his approach and location. 2. The lights out reliever- this is a guy with has two ++ pitches- including a power fastball. But that’s it. He can’t confuse the hitter with by throwing 4 kinds of pitches, changing speeds and eye level. It’s just case of- you cannot hit this, I dare you to try. The hitter has to cover the heater, and looks foolish on the breaking stuff. These pitchers can’t face a lineup more than once and they can hardly maintain their max effort stuff for more than one inning. 3. DeGrom- a pitcher with 2 closer level pitches that can go as long as a starter!! This guy throws two pitches to only two quadrants of the plate but he commands them at a Mariano Rivera level. He’s the answer to the question- what if a pitcher as good as Mariano Rivera was a starter??
Not just because I’m a Mets fan … pitchers usually have at least one flaw , be it control , not a 95 + arm , tipping pitches etc … he doesn’t, he’s 6 ft 6 with a 7 ft stride , 100 fastball, great slider that looks like a belt high fastball when he throws it … and he doesn’t walk anyone … I’ve never seen anything like it , let’s just hope he stays healthy.
Right. Usually aces limit walks and get strikeouts, but can still give up solo homers and hard contact on the fastball. Scherzer, Cole, Verlander, Ohtani are like that. Degrom is a total outlier.
Al Leiter’s the right guy on the network to talk about spin and spin efficiency, given that high, efficient spin is Jack Leiter’s calling card. Also, that chart of deGrom’s year-by-year velo is misleading because it’s missing 2015, when he averaged well over 95mph. But his velo dropped in 2016, perhaps in part from all the innings he threw the previous year, deep into October.
@@tpsin713 yeah not his fast ball 😂😂 y'all never faced a pitcher who can throw a 96 mph slider before good luck with and I bet they do love fast balls let's just hope they don't know it's coming again because against degrom and mad max y'all might need them videos again 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Whats even scarier is the Mets beat the Dodgers in LA 3 out of 4 without degrom or Scherzer. You have a right to be scared. If those two guys go into October healthy not sure anyone beats the Mets. Mets also have 3 other pitchers capable of shutting down anyone on a given night.
Jacob deGrom is built physically like a wet noddle but can he bring the gas. We’ve all been waiting for this. Jake you do not have to throw straight gas all the time. Save your arm brother. With all the others pitchers Cole, Bauer, etc imagine if deGrom used this substances he would unhittable.
@@SmokeyNeyland yeah maybe it’s more like 94. I know the fastest fastball I’ve ever got is 102. Have you seen faster? Degrom throwing 96mpg sliders I don’t even think ThTs possible in the game lol
@@Flowerz__ I've not seen faster than 102 for the 4 seam fastball and 94 is the fastest I've seen with the slider. I'm gonna keep grinding my player and see what I can do with it though
@@SmokeyNeyland yeah I think 102 is fastest you can get. My velo is over 100 with pulse pounder and the other perk than increases velo and never got more than 102.
missed a really good opportunity when they showed the heat maps guys. we don't care what DeRo would have liked, what's valuable from the heat maps is to show the how effective the slider is because it's so constant in plane with FB but end up 10" off att the plate
Look where 102 has gotten us. One elite pitcher after another getting Tommy John. This isn't working out. DeGrom not being able to finish the 21" season was the most disappointing thing I've ever witnessed watching sports. I've watched a lot of baseball and at 37 years old, DeGrom is the most dominant pitcher I've ever seen pitch. He really was unhittable
i can confidently say that degrom, as of right now, his peak....he's the best pitcher of all time. yes, better than pedro, randy johnson, rocket his command, the nastiness of his pitches, the heat ...it's all just insane
Come on get serious. Jacob is great but he is 34 and doesn't really have the numbers to be ranked all time. 78-53 w/l record for a 13-9 average. Only 4 complete games and 2 shutouts. Don't get me wrong I am a DeGrom fan and I enjoy watching him pitch but GOAT? No way.
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Why did deGrom slam his glove down on the bench after being pulled? Because he lost the shutout, perfect game, elevated his ERA? He shouldn't think about any of that when he's in the zone. . . one pitch at a time! They wanted to hold him to 75 - on 76 pow batter goes yard, dinger! If they pulled him at 70 then no HR.
I really think he was more upset with the walk before giving up the homer. If I'm correct he may have been ahead in the count before the balls up in the strike zone. But it was an incredible performance by an amazing pitcher.
Degrom hates when someone hits a home run off him and he also upset for leaving the ball up. This guy is a perfectionist when he pitches. It's not the first time he's been seen slamming the gove down for the same reason.
This is 🤣😂😂 funny......I just at here n watched 2 shows on MLB Network 2hrs......mentioned every team in the hunt for the playoffs besides the Phillies.....no love for the Phillies.......just proved me right on how philly teams are the most hated in each sport......that's unreal.....the Phillies only are 39-19 since June 1st.... 3rd best in the entire league.....pitching is seventh overall......leads the leagues in home runs hit and extra base hits.....defense is top ten....bullpen top five surprisingly.....2 four game sweeps in 8 days..... Just past San Diego for the 2nd playoff spot..... So keep sleeping on the Phillies...it's starting to remind me of 2008 right now.....feeling the vibe....keep sleeping 😴.....
Im a Mets fan and yeah the phillies arent really being talked about like they should but heres the good thing. YOu guys get to play us at Citi next week. You likely face Scherzer and deGrom. Beat both of them and youll get all the attention you could want by making a big statement. Should be a fun series.
@@Bdot1588 get on top of the division? F...k divisions.........doesn't mean anything in the playoffs...and maybe I need to be more clearer to you.........Atlanta not on top of division.....never was.....still talked about.......San Diego Padres not in division lead ....3rd wildcard spot still talked about......the San Francisco Giants not even close to wildcard spot.....still praised....... I'm talking about playoff teams in general.......read my comment right before responding.... prove to me once again Philly is the most hated organization in sports..... another philly hater.. keep hating........we will see what happens when games really counts.....
A week ago it was "they'll blow the division" Now its "they'll crumble in the postseason" I wonder what the quote we'll be if they win the WS..."they wont repeat"? Maybe this statement should be saved for a team that is more HR or nothing, or without 2 future HOF'ers at the top of their pitching staff.
Two geniuses with barely a high school education trying to explain hard pitching. Dude half the league throws 100. The difference is he throws it for six innings, not just one. Major leaguers can hit 100. It's the pinpoint control and consistency.
I’m a braves fan and that game was painful to watch. But man, I can’t help but just sit in awe of DeGrom. I’ve never seen someone make batters look so helpless at the plate. He is truly something special
Didn't you watch the 14 strikeout game in 2019 deGrom had against you guys?
@@TheFruitney hahahaha this was even crazier I think cause of his 75 pitch count when he’s ready to give them 100 😬
Yea and let's not forget 2nd game back from a 390 plus day hietus
@@Mike-rh8ii exactly
Hope baseball gets to enjoy a healthy deGrom for years to come.
He is amazing. Even more effortless in person! He looks flawless. He’s the epitome of a good pitcher, the aura he exudes helps him as well, as he seems very concentrated & confident.
deGrom is easily the best player in the game. Man has perfect genetics, perfect mechanics and he is ALWAYS DOMINANT it’s ridiculous
deGrom has perfect mechanics for him. He's long and lanky. That low 3/4 arm slot works for him. He does have elite shoulder/hip separation. He's on time every time.
@@hoanpham4545 exactly
I think Degrom has kind of “broke” pitching.
There have always been 2 kinds of dominant pitchers for the last 20 years.
1. The Ace Starter- a starter with high end stuff- including a mid-high ninety fastball and a ++ breaking pitch to go along with two average options. This is the kind of pitcher who “sets-up” hitters by establishing different quadrants of the zone, changing the eye level of the hitter and then getting outs by forcing the hitter to extend on pitches outside of the zone. This guy can go two or three times through a lineup because he can vary his approach and location.
2. The lights out reliever- this is a guy with has two ++ pitches- including a power fastball. But that’s it. He can’t confuse the hitter with by throwing 4 kinds of pitches, changing speeds and eye level. It’s just case of- you cannot hit this, I dare you to try. The hitter has to cover the heater, and looks foolish on the breaking stuff. These pitchers can’t face a lineup more than once and they can hardly maintain their max effort stuff for more than one inning.
3. DeGrom- a pitcher with 2 closer level pitches that can go as long as a starter!! This guy throws two pitches to only two quadrants of the plate but he commands them at a Mariano Rivera level. He’s the answer to the question- what if a pitcher as good as Mariano Rivera was a starter??
the crazy thing is degrom has a great curve and change up and doesn't need it
you said it, that's it
Mariano Rivera was a starter first. That didn't work out. Then became the greatest closer in baseball. Final destination Hall of Fame.
His changeup against lefties is quite nasty too🫣
Great vid. Love the enthusiasm
We can thank Terry Collins
I know exactly what you are talking about. That bad start in 2016 or 2017 in texas
@@TheFruitney yea. It was after that rough outing that deGram turned it around. Terry told him something.
2017 “The Conversation That Made An Ace”
Not just because I’m a Mets fan … pitchers usually have at least one flaw , be it control , not a 95 + arm , tipping pitches etc … he doesn’t, he’s 6 ft 6 with a 7 ft stride , 100 fastball, great slider that looks like a belt high fastball when he throws it … and he doesn’t walk anyone … I’ve never seen anything like it , let’s just hope he stays healthy.
He does have a flaw. His health. Since hes been throwing 100 he has missed most of the last two years.
Right. Usually aces limit walks and get strikeouts, but can still give up solo homers and hard contact on the fastball. Scherzer, Cole, Verlander, Ohtani are like that. Degrom is a total outlier.
the only flaw is sadly the Mets lineup not bothering to score when deGrom is pitching.. also applies to Scherzer 😶
The really scary part is he CAN throw other pitches if he ever needs to. He's got the occasional changeup, AND a curveball in his back pocket.
When healthy, he is the most dominating pitcher since the peak Pedro with Red Sox.
Great analysis, never heard of the tucked thumb before.
Insane that deGrom and Al Leiter's son are on the Rangers
Al rocking the Hulk Submariner
He really threw a 96 slider.. good freaking luck hitting him
I’m not religious but I’m actually praying 🙏 he stays healthy. It’s too cool watching this amazing dude
he mentioned in an interview he made some mechanical changes i wonder what those where
Trying to rotate from hips and leg more to take strain off arm side
@@johnforster2375 i see yeah he is a lot more fluid than when he first came up
Al Leiter’s the right guy on the network to talk about spin and spin efficiency, given that high, efficient spin is Jack Leiter’s calling card. Also, that chart of deGrom’s year-by-year velo is misleading because it’s missing 2015, when he averaged well over 95mph. But his velo dropped in 2016, perhaps in part from all the innings he threw the previous year, deep into October.
DeGrom is a great pitcher. 100 mph fastball and 96 mph slider.
No he is not he’s a fraud
astros luv the fast ball!!
@@tpsin713 yeah not his fast ball 😂😂 y'all never faced a pitcher who can throw a 96 mph slider before good luck with and I bet they do love fast balls let's just hope they don't know it's coming again because against degrom and mad max y'all might need them videos again 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a Dodger fan, Degrom scares me.
See u in October hahahaha
Whats even scarier is the Mets beat the Dodgers in LA 3 out of 4 without degrom or Scherzer. You have a right to be scared. If those two guys go into October healthy not sure anyone beats the Mets. Mets also have 3 other pitchers capable of shutting down anyone on a given night.
@@mr.nobody9697 they split not 3 out of 4 but they did split without Degrom and scherzer, and with facing all the best dodger pitchers that series
@@JonMa273 I stand corrected.
Jake is a Duds killer.
DeRo is a treasure.
AWESOME!
Jacob deGrom is built physically like a wet noddle but can he bring the gas. We’ve all been waiting for this. Jake you do not have to throw straight gas all the time. Save your arm brother. With all the others pitchers Cole, Bauer, etc imagine if deGrom used this substances he would unhittable.
I know it hurts some of the other pitcher's ego to not get 1/4 of the praise deGrom gets, but cmon. This is unreal.
deGrom > Ohtani
Jake is just king to watch at the field.
My mlb the shower player with maxed velo throws like 92mph slider lol. Degrom is literally above video game numbers.
Currently throwing 94 with mine, but that's with the pulse pounder perk
@@SmokeyNeyland yeah maybe it’s more like 94. I know the fastest fastball I’ve ever got is 102. Have you seen faster? Degrom throwing 96mpg sliders I don’t even think ThTs possible in the game lol
@@Flowerz__ I've not seen faster than 102 for the 4 seam fastball and 94 is the fastest I've seen with the slider. I'm gonna keep grinding my player and see what I can do with it though
@@SmokeyNeyland yeah I think 102 is fastest you can get. My velo is over 100 with pulse pounder and the other perk than increases velo and never got more than 102.
@@Flowerz__ I just threw a 96 mph Slider. I didn't screenshot it but I did screenshot throwing 95 with the slider.
His arm is a weapon.
This stuff is like make believe land.
missed a really good opportunity when they showed the heat maps guys. we don't care what DeRo would have liked, what's valuable from the heat maps is to show the how effective the slider is because it's so constant in plane with FB but end up 10" off att the plate
Look where 102 has gotten us. One elite pitcher after another getting Tommy John. This isn't working out. DeGrom not being able to finish the 21" season was the most disappointing thing I've ever witnessed watching sports. I've watched a lot of baseball and at 37 years old, DeGrom is the most dominant pitcher I've ever seen pitch. He really was unhittable
let’s go Mets!!!!!!!!
Bro….Uncle Stevie. 6 / $65 per. You can’t let him leave. He retires a Met.
Just imagine if Jacob had decent run support.
Best pitch in baseball is a well placed fast ball, "Dwayne Statts"
Let's not forget Jake never used spider tack or anything else for that matter
What a great segment and showing the yearly speed progression. Wow. Baseball, so great without Marxism.
Bauer has the same grip techniques, loose enough to slide out cleam, Tucked thumb.
Imagine if Bauer could throw 102!
I think Al likes watching Jake. haha
i can confidently say that degrom, as of right now, his peak....he's the best pitcher of all time. yes, better than pedro, randy johnson, rocket
his command, the nastiness of his pitches, the heat ...it's all just insane
Stuff-wise maybe but Pedro did everything deGrom did stats-wise for twice as long
@@AdamS235 Did he though? Pedro had a short peak too.
the greatest pitcher of all time
behind scherzer
Come on get serious. Jacob is great but he is 34 and doesn't really have the numbers to be ranked all time. 78-53 w/l record
for a 13-9 average. Only 4 complete games and 2 shutouts. Don't get me wrong I am a DeGrom fan and I enjoy watching him
pitch but GOAT? No way.
4:21 - 4:25, you mean roided up?
I see Mets bashers. Hate because you fear.
plot twist the mets collapse like always
Dominant until he wasn't. Go braves!!
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And this has what to do with baseball pitching
How much better is degrom than verlander
Verlander's brother says he's the best on the planet, so I'd say it's enough of a difference to where he's willing to do that.
Why did deGrom slam his glove down on the bench after being pulled? Because he lost the shutout, perfect game, elevated his ERA? He shouldn't think about any of that when he's in the zone. . . one pitch at a time!
They wanted to hold him to 75 - on 76 pow batter goes yard, dinger! If they pulled him at 70 then no HR.
I'm sure it doesn't feel good to give up a homer and then get pulled from the game. In that moment I would think that the stats are irrelevant
This man is chasing perfection every time he's out there. Anything less isn't enough, GOAT mentality.
I really think he was more upset with the walk before giving up the homer. If I'm correct he may have been ahead in the count before the balls up in the strike zone. But it was an incredible performance by an amazing pitcher.
its because it potentially allows the Braves to mount a comeback. Once you have your opponent down; you want them to stay down
Degrom hates when someone hits a home run off him and he also upset for leaving the ball up. This guy is a perfectionist when he pitches. It's not the first time he's been seen slamming the gove down for the same reason.
verlander is close lol that statement is so dumb
How many homeruns does deGrom hit? Pitcher yes, but overall, not the best. Ohtani the best overall player in baseball.
deGrom is the best player in the league, period.
@@billywayne5671 Ohtani can hit and pitch at an elite rate bub
DeGrom batted .364 last year.
Shohei hits home runs but Jacob is the best hitting pitcher in the game. A younger Zack Greinke wasn't bad either.
This is 🤣😂😂 funny......I just at here n watched 2 shows on MLB Network 2hrs......mentioned every team in the hunt for the playoffs besides the Phillies.....no love for the Phillies.......just proved me right on how philly teams are the most hated in each sport......that's unreal.....the Phillies only are 39-19 since June 1st.... 3rd best in the entire league.....pitching is seventh overall......leads the leagues in home runs hit and extra base hits.....defense is top ten....bullpen top five surprisingly.....2 four game sweeps in 8 days..... Just past San Diego for the 2nd playoff spot..... So keep sleeping on the Phillies...it's starting to remind me of 2008 right now.....feeling the vibe....keep sleeping 😴.....
Im a Mets fan and yeah the phillies arent really being talked about like they should but heres the good thing. YOu guys get to play us at Citi next week. You likely face Scherzer and deGrom. Beat both of them and youll get all the attention you could want by making a big statement. Should be a fun series.
3rd place. Get atop the division then people will talk about your team. Smfh
@@Bdot1588 get on top of the division? F...k divisions.........doesn't mean anything in the playoffs...and maybe I need to be more clearer to you.........Atlanta not on top of division.....never was.....still talked about.......San Diego Padres not in division lead ....3rd wildcard spot still talked about......the San Francisco Giants not even close to wildcard spot.....still praised....... I'm talking about playoff teams in general.......read my comment right before responding.... prove to me once again Philly is the most hated organization in sports..... another philly hater.. keep hating........we will see what happens when games really counts.....
They’ll crumble in the postseason
Not this team
Now say it without crying
Pure jealousy
@@19jtown I don’t play baseball. I never won a World Series before. Search your feelings son, you know what you are jealous of
A week ago it was "they'll blow the division"
Now its "they'll crumble in the postseason"
I wonder what the quote we'll be if they win the WS..."they wont repeat"?
Maybe this statement should be saved for a team that is more HR or nothing, or without 2 future HOF'ers at the top of their pitching staff.
Blue called this game DeGrom favor, pitches a foot outside or high ball and boom Strike 2 and pretty much you are done if you fell 0-2 on him.
He throws too hard. Hes going to stay getting hurt, watch.
Two geniuses with barely a high school education trying to explain hard pitching. Dude half the league throws 100. The difference is he throws it for six innings, not just one. Major leaguers can hit 100. It's the pinpoint control and consistency.
That’s what Al was detailing. Pay attention.
More like Janitor Jerry, middle school dropout trying to talk smack about MLB insiders making 3 figures a year 🤣
To they seem stupid to you?