Two things I wish I could ask Ray. 1. Screen visibility outside. My 7300 is horrible outdoors. 2. To save battery can the GPS digital stuff be turned off? I'm cautiously excited with this one. Oh and fliberglass vertical with a wire and 3 radials... 3 minutes and 6 seconds if I break a sweat.
Thanks Mike for do the interview with Ray! New Icom radio new solar cycle on the horizon what can go wrong? Forgot an adapter for a line or my tent stakes yes I did that once. Force to use my mfj2286 which I still love. It would take me the longest to untangle and layout the ground radials. Very impressive radio and the well thought out menu design. I hope to be able to send a picture over hf lol. Dstar too I don't have dstar. Thank you again. I'm still keeping my IC7200
Good video Mike! I love the IC-705. If ICOM plans to compete with Elecraft, which they really are, they should have included an on board tuner. And hopefully the receiver is as hot as the Elecraft radios. I looked at that same exact radio Saturday. I was there at HamCation all day Saturday and I am surprised I didn't run in to you. I would have really liked to meet you. I did meet Eric of HRC and a couple of other RUclips creators. I had a blast at HamCation and I am looking forward to next year. 73!
I was only there Friday. Not sure how the receiver is going to be but I would guess it would be the same as the 7300. Won’t find out until I get one I guess. The tuner is kind of a let down I agree. Not a deal breaker, but I can’t use my PackTenna mini without an external tuner still.
Absolutely Outstanding. You know the Icom 7300 is going for under a thousand bucks now. They will shoot this radio in the foot if it comes in more expensive than the 7300. Anyway I've got my reservation in and I'm looking forward to this radio being released.
Thanks Julian. It’s def gonna be more expensive at launch I’m sure. But man this thing packs a punch in a tiny package. I was thinking about a kx2 but I’ve pretty much changed my mind. I love my 7300, just not so much taking it portable.
Looks like a great little radio. I hope it lives up to the hype. The Raspberry Pi had this kind of hype at the beginning and look how successful that it has become. Thanks for the video! I would be one of those guys looking around the shoulder saying "What you guys doing? Oh, a video!!! Sorry!" Loved it!
Yeah I think Icom has another game changer with this rig. They revolutionized the radio world with the 7300 and I think this is going to change the game for the portable ops too.
remember, $50 or so buys a small manual tuner... yes, I said manual, lol, like the 2 I bring for POTA fun. My autotuner stays home :) For me the deal breaker is the $$ @ ~3xFT891. But then again, am not currently in need of a new rig anyway or I'd have already bought the 891. It IS a VERY nice rig though - so no demerits meant for ICOM.... As always, nice video & thanks for it!
Take the 7300 and the 9700, put them in the same box and squish it down to a small, compact, light weight portable rig and that's what you get. Pure awesomeness.
Was planing to get one but got the IC-7300 instead. May get one for VHF/UHF, but still low for base use plus then an amp, in that case, will get the IC-9700 instead.
It's pretty amazing. I went straight to it once I got inside. It was a lot smaller and lighter than it looked from the videos they put out in Japan last year.
@@hamradiotube I realise you didn't really get to play with it or anything, but what's your sense of it? Do you think it has a chance of living up to the hype? I think iCOM hit a home run with the IC-7300, and I would love to think that the 705 will be in that league in terms of quality. And the fact that it's all-mode makes it seem like it should be another home run for running QRP. But then, you can also hook up an amp and go higher power for base station use. I can't imagine what's no to like! I know, I sound like I'm already sold on the thing. But I want to believe it could be the rig I've been waiting for all my life! ;-)
I'm a "resonant antenna guy" too but it really needs a tuner option. I mean come on, there is times you can only get a wire out or need to touch up the swr a bit. It astounds me all these bells and whistles and no tuner, maybe this is not the elecraft slayer we all thought it would be. This was a great video, thanks....
Ok so jump ahead 9 months from now, what will be the defining feature that this gives over other portable QRP radios? Seems there's no insight into how it performs outdoors under sunlight, frost, rain, damp conditions. Is it really a portable radio or a small QRP SDR computer.
Bet there will be a load of new screens wanted as well after its taken a tumble on a SOTA trip.... nargh.... not for me sorry.... not rugged enough... and as you say...that screen will be crap in sunshine... excellent remarks made though Carl...
He Carl, thanks for watching. I’ve taken my 7300 portable plenty of times and the screen is fine in the daylight, unlike some of the qrp radios I have. I don’t know of any Hf radio that is resistant to the weather, this one included. For me the defining features are hf/vhf/uhf dstar all in one tiny portable radio. And it has a (kind of) internal battery. I don’t have a radio that does 2 meter ssb either and this will fill that void for me too. Well have to see once it is released out in the wild and we put it through the ringer.
@@radioman6489 Really? Interesting. I use my WRC antenna on my trunk mount, (a really crappy one at that) not grounded or bonded to anything at all running qrp and get out all over the place. I activate POTA all the time on my lunch break from my car as I work right down the street from a state park. Granted, all power from the car is shut off lest I get all kinds of noise.
The most important on a QRP expedition is how sensitive is the receiving if it can beat my Elecraft KX2 it will be a keeper but if not I will put it on sale period
Speculating on price as in the video but if it is 12 to 1500 US it's a deal breaker. I know price is not yet known but anything more that 8 to 950 US is over the top. And the back pak with it's contents is extra.
It might be steep for sure. We'll have to wait and see. You are getting a whole lot of features in a tiny package though. HF, VHF, UHF, D-STAR. If you are patient, like everything else, the price will drop eventually. Look at the 7300, you can get that for under $1000 now.
I would be interested in a in an HF only version with antenna tuner and capable of 100 watts. I would be fine with losing the battery space to achieve the 100 watts goal. Their response to the antenna tuner question is interesting. Why do you want one when you can buy this $400+ antenna instead. Setting it up to sell the radio, antenna, and bag as a grossly overpriced package deal? He had a big gulp in there when you mentioned a price range and avoided the subject. For a product set to release in less then 2 months you would think maybe they would at least hint at a price range. Thanks for the videos.
Apparently confirmed in UK on Friday as £1199 but it could change - seem to remember a estimate of £800 when it was mid launch. Very nice piece of kit but I also wanted a 9700 at the time but not at £1800. For a hobby that’s suffering membership issues, these prices won’t attract new members. The old 703 will have to keep going a bit longer yet ......
That would be very cool to have a full power all band all mode radio from Icom. I don’t know how they are going to package the radio, antenna etc. Ray said the dealers will really come up with those. I sure as heck wouldn’t pay $400 for that antenna. That is insane. Prob $20-30 in parts.
So is the answer to the question of "why isn't there a tuner" then "just get a mag loop that can be made resonant on all your frequencies?" And if so...how much will that mag loop set me back?
Another great video - thank you... I'm really excited about this new radio. Do you know the specific model number/name of the Comet and Alpha antennas referenced in the video? Michael VA6XMB
For you QRP fans out there I see they have released the new icom 705 for about $1,300 dollars. But for about $450 dollars you can get a small lightweight QRP size Xiegu G90 transciever with internal antenna tuner that is so good it could probably tune up a head of lettuce, an antenna analyzer, a water fall, and up to 20 watts. However if you save up all your hard earned money, for and extra $850 more dollars you can actually get an icom 705 with no antenna tuner. ??? uh what did you say $850 dollars more of my hard earned money and NO ANTENNA TUNER. ??
Yeah but you haven't held the 705 in your hand. It is an amazing radio. You're really not comparing apples to apples though. Icom vs. Xiegu is like Ferrari vs. Kia. Yes, they are both radios, but one is a base grade entry level, with very, very few features other than the waterfall and a great tuner, the other is a high end, fine tuned machine with filters, a way better receiver, the same touch screen as on the 7300 and 9700, all band all mode. I completely understand where you are coming from, but they are not even in the same league. No antenna tuner is not a deal breaker for me at all. My first "portable" radio was the Yaesu FT-891. That doesn't have a tuner. I used resonant antennas. The first of which was a speaker wire dipole cut for 20 meters and it worked great. They will both get you on the air, and that's the most important thing.
K8MRD RADIO STUFF Au contraire I beg to differ with you. Obviously you have not held a Xiegu G90 In your hand. It is pure quality because of the features it has. It has wonderful filters. It also has a CW decoder that is great. Just because that 705 has a flashy look to it does it mean under the hood it has quality like the Xiegu G90. I really like Icom ‘s. My favorite one is the 7300. I was looking forward to the 705 until I found out they took a 7300 and dumbed it down by removing the internal antenna tuner and much less Power and want to charge more money than for a 7300. Just because the crowd wants to go with a little flash I am not like one of the dumb lemmings jumping off the cliff after everybody else. Let me tell you one reason why. I have my small G 90 and I really really like to carry the portable chameleon Cha micro antenna with the 60 foot wire That I can use on bands up to 160 m. But the only way is to use an antenna tuner. If I bought one of those 705’s I would have to go and buy an external antenna tuner to carry two things to do what I do with one right now with one small radio. Otherwise I am stuck to a narrow spot of only having to have a resonant antenna. And I do not want to carry a whole bag of resonant antennas for each and every band. There are a few Antennas with Coils and different things on them to be able to make them resonant. But then I am restricted to only those products. I like the versatility of an antenna tuner and use a lot larger range of Antennas that I might want to use. Not only is the G 90 a first class outstanding quality QRP size Transceiver it is possible to turn it up to 20 W even though it is a small QRP size radio. For 2m I simply have an icom handheld. I have D star On my handheld and also on my icom 7100. but where I am there are no repeaters for D star that I can reach so it’s sort of useless for me right now where I Live. One person did put in a UHF D star repeater but hardly Anyone can reach it from my area. So I don’t have access to it where I am. I have a small go box that I made up. Look at my QRZ page KB5IOC to see it. It has the G 90 with its decoder and its internal antenna tuner where I can reach all bands but in my briefcase size waterproof go box I also have a 2 m connected to a TNC so I can get email even though I do not have access to the Internet by using Winlink. For me the 705 is a day Late and a dollar short of everything that I really need. If it had an internal antenna tuner I might have bought it but to me it’s just a dumbed down 7300 that cost more than the 7300 does. do not discount the G 90 is a fine quality instrument. I do not like to be restricted to have to only use certain antennas. I like to have a higher choice. And I really really like my chameleon cha micro antenna. And I do not want to have to give it up for a 705 that has no internal antenna tuner and it’s just a dumbed down 7300 that cost more.
K8MRD RADIO STUFF I see you mention filters in the 705 but you did not mention the wonderful outstanding filters in G90. You say you own one obviously you have not checked it out very closely because You Did not mention those wonderful filters in the G 90. Why is this? have you over looked them. check out this comparison of the great filters in the G 90 compared to the Kenwood ruclips.net/video/l4C8QI7L_lM/видео.html Icom has obviously hoisted its own petard where it left off that antenna tuner.
@@docpearson Oh boy, you again. Dude, I'm not going back and forth with you. You clearly are pretty narrow minded and have made up yours. Thats great. You like the G90. I do too. You seem to think it's the greatest radio since sliced bread and you are entitled to your opinion. But show me where the notch filter or the noise reduction is. Oh, wait, you can't. We all know you can narrow your band width with it. Not what I'm looking for.
The Elecraft T1 20 Watt Tuner will EASILY Velcro to the back of this thing if you absolutely have to have a tuner: elecraft.com/products/t1-miniature-stand-alone-atu-and-accessories A couple of 90 degree bnc connecters (maybe a bnc spacer in between) and its almost invisible from the front. But honestly if you are taking this out in the field, you can get good resonance with a Wolf River Coil without it!
@@hamradiotube It's been confirmed that it will have 4m for UK versions, so it is technically capable of it, so other countries that have 4m shouldn't have an issue :).
Willian. Direction I agree. Needs an ATU like my KX3. No need to carry a backpack of stuff, just a wire and counter poise. You can bet Elecraft will make the KX4.
10:52 "Wow, just set up and ready to operate." At 5% efficiency, where as if we spend 20-30 mins putting up a proper antenna, you can get all 10w into the air :). Loops are great to have in tight spaces, but using them as an argument against having a built in atu is a poor argument. Better just to take your own external atu if you MUST use a non resonant antenna. 2nd hand Z11 pro2's aren't that expensive :)
I agree with you 100%. I really wish they would have put a tuner in it. They could have put that in instead of D-Star. Who the heck is going to be going portable and want to use that? Not this guy. Still a very cool radio. Who knows, maybe they will see the error of their ways in the next gen? I know a lot of people are disappointed because of the lack of tuner.
Besides no ATU, (not a huge deal) I don't like the form factor much. It doesn't look like it sets well, needs a stand or something. Secondly I don't think, from what little I could find, it covers the noaa band's which would be nice for portable ops. Lastly touch screen and cold weather or wet weather might be an issue. Just my opinion. Love my 7300 alsoI have the 817 and an x5105 for portable. Still love the 817 best for cw/digi mode. 73 good video de KF7VUT
Ray told me they are looking into some designs for a stand. Would be silly for it to be sitting there looking straight ahead. I’m not sure how wide the receiver is so I don’t know about noaa. Hopefully it’ll go up there. It’s not that far above 70cm.
I am you usually a YAESU man . But this little ICOM ic-705 is a very cool QRP radio . Would love to know how much it will cost. YAESU needs to get on the band wagon and get something going in the same area. 73 AE4OY WILLIAM EM-81UF
Yaesu would make it so overly complicated though. Their menus are terrible. I don't think they really know what it takes to innovate. Look what they did with the FTDX101MP. The 3D scope they put in it looks like it came out of the 80's. It reminds me of Tron. I have 3 of their radios so I can say that. I've heard through the grapevine somewhere around $1200 for the radio. I would guess way more for the whole kit shown in this video.
Expensive radio... likely worth it for what you get. No tuner? They showcase it with a crazy expensive antenna to compensate? Gah. Great video, but icom needs to find a tuning solution rather than what they are doing here. Xiegu comes to mind...
Yes all band all mode plus D-star is quite compelling. No doubt it will be on the upper side of the price range, but compared to its competition like the KX2/3, you get a lot more radio. The lack of tuner seems to be the hot button for some. Yes it would be nice to be able to use random wire antennas without an external tuner, like my PackTenna mini, but its not a deal breaker for me.
That's not a deal breaker for me at all. Sure it would be nice to have, but resonant antennas are always going to be best. You can always use a portable tuner too.
@@hamradiotube Yes got, the Elecraft T1 tuner which is great. But I really like radios like the KX2 which include everything in a small box. :-) less wires, less hassle :-) Anyways, I will have a closer look at the IC-705 as soon as it is available. :-) 73, Stephan
I don't think there are going to be too many people buying this radio for D-Star. Us portable folk are clamoring for this radio because of the all band/all mode portable awsomeness that is packed inside. It's a portable 7300+9700. I can't wait to get mine!
Icom really had a chance. But what they did was a collosal stupid mistake of epic proportions. What they did was just took their icom 7300 and “dumbed it down” by removing the internal antenna tuner which is the stupidest thing anybody could’ve done in the world just so they could shrink the size of the radio and gave it the new name of icom 705. But what they have done is they were close so close to the brass ring and could have had one great QRP radio. But Nooo. What they did by removing the internal antenna tuner thus dumbing down their radio and thus left the door wide open and guess what. Xiegu an upstart new company that wants to go places just walks right in With their smaller new G 90 “with” an internal antenna tuner and a waterfall and one of the coolest SWR’s That can easily diagnosed antenna problems. And the price is a fraction of what icom wants. And walks off with the prize and leaves icom eating their dust. Icom had the chance and they just dropped the ball and fell flat on their qrp faces. Whoever in their company that decided to remove the internal Antenna tuner and everyone that let them get away with it was the stupidest move Icome has ever made in their history. Icom should be out right ashamed but they are going to pay through the nose because Xiegu’s new G 90 is going to walk off with their lunch. Let me add an additional note here. Every radio I own is icom. I love icom but I have to be honest. Icom has absolutely been hoisted by their own petard by leaving that internal antenna tuner out. Opening the door for Xiegu g90 to walk right over them.
Yes, I agree for the most part. I think its still going to be a way better quality radio. The G90 is good, but it has no filters, no notch, no nothing. It serves it's purpose, and does it well for the price. The only gripe I have w/ the 705 is the lack of a tuner. Other than that, I think it is a great radio.
Actually Ciegu G90 has an outstanding first class Notch filter that is extremely good at cutting out extraneous noise and clearing up the signal. Here is a link to that RUclips video showing you that that great notch filter ruclips.net/video/nIQIWCUcSxY/видео.html. The G90 manual also mentions a digital filter.
Clearly you haven’t watched me work POTA QRP. The bands are only dead because people say the bands are dead instead of getting on the air and calling cq.
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Ray Novak we love your presentation on this new radio I can't wait to get one thank you for sharing
Thanks for watching!
BIG thanX. Best video I've seen so far about the IC-705 !!
73's everyone de EA6VY
Two things I wish I could ask Ray. 1. Screen visibility outside. My 7300 is horrible outdoors. 2. To save battery can the GPS digital stuff be turned off? I'm cautiously excited with this one. Oh and fliberglass vertical with a wire and 3 radials... 3 minutes and 6 seconds if I break a sweat.
Thanks Mike for do the interview with Ray! New Icom radio new solar cycle on the horizon what can go wrong? Forgot an adapter for a line or my tent stakes yes I did that once. Force to use my mfj2286 which I still love. It would take me the longest to untangle and layout the ground radials. Very impressive radio and the well thought out menu design. I hope to be able to send a picture over hf lol. Dstar too I don't have dstar. Thank you again. I'm still keeping my IC7200
Good video Mike! I love the IC-705. If ICOM plans to compete with Elecraft, which they really are, they should have included an on board tuner. And hopefully the receiver is as hot as the Elecraft radios. I looked at that same exact radio Saturday. I was there at HamCation all day Saturday and I am surprised I didn't run in to you. I would have really liked to meet you. I did meet Eric of HRC and a couple of other RUclips creators. I had a blast at HamCation and I am looking forward to next year. 73!
I was only there Friday. Not sure how the receiver is going to be but I would guess it would be the same as the 7300. Won’t find out until I get one I guess. The tuner is kind of a let down I agree. Not a deal breaker, but I can’t use my PackTenna mini without an external tuner still.
Absolutely Outstanding.
You know the Icom 7300 is going for under a thousand bucks now. They will shoot this radio in the foot if it comes in more expensive than the 7300. Anyway I've got my reservation in and I'm looking forward to this radio being released.
Thanks Julian. It’s def gonna be more expensive at launch I’m sure. But man this thing packs a punch in a tiny package. I was thinking about a kx2 but I’ve pretty much changed my mind. I love my 7300, just not so much taking it portable.
Looks like a great little radio. I hope it lives up to the hype. The Raspberry Pi had this kind of hype at the beginning and look how successful that it has become. Thanks for the video! I would be one of those guys looking around the shoulder saying "What you guys doing? Oh, a video!!! Sorry!" Loved it!
Yeah I think Icom has another game changer with this rig. They revolutionized the radio world with the 7300 and I think this is going to change the game for the portable ops too.
remember, $50 or so buys a small manual tuner... yes, I said manual, lol, like the 2 I bring for POTA fun. My autotuner stays home :) For me the deal breaker is the $$ @ ~3xFT891. But then again, am not currently in need of a new rig anyway or I'd have already bought the 891. It IS a VERY nice rig though - so no demerits meant for ICOM.... As always, nice video & thanks for it!
Ray Novak sure is eating pretty good. Damn!
Yep. He needs to get to Cross Fit.
Wow that’s childish tad bit offensive 😳
Great video! Glad you asked the question about the tuner. It is a real disappointment that it does not have one built in.
Agreed!
Mike and Ray and Icom...Three of my favorites! I have met Ray at Oshkosh....I Love Icom...I will meet Mike when I invade Dodge Park this Spring! W8RFC
Haha, I'll see you there!
Looks like a fantastic radio!
Take the 7300 and the 9700, put them in the same box and squish it down to a small, compact, light weight portable rig and that's what you get. Pure awesomeness.
Thanks for the video. I might have to get this transceiver
Yeah I think a lot of people are having those feelings.
Very cool radio!
Very cool indeed.
nice to meet you at Orlando I did get me a wolf river coils antenna. haven't got it out yet but cant wait to get it in a park. Thanks for the video
I can't wait to see it at Hamvention!
Jason Siebert you will need a bat to beat your way to it.😀 should be say to find just look for the biggest crowd...
Thanks for the selfie and showing off my radio there :D
Haha. No problem buddy. It’ll be both of ours, we’ll just keep it at my house.
Was planing to get one but got the IC-7300 instead. May get one for VHF/UHF, but still low for base use plus then an amp, in that case, will get the IC-9700 instead.
The main purpose of this radio is for portable use. Not so much a base rig. They don’t have plans to make an amp or anything for it.
My next rig fo sho. Reserved it the first day they offered.
Thanks so much for this, man! I can't wait to get my hands on this baby!
It's pretty amazing. I went straight to it once I got inside. It was a lot smaller and lighter than it looked from the videos they put out in Japan last year.
K8MRD RADIO STUFF that’s good to hear cause looks like a chunk.
@@hamradiotube I realise you didn't really get to play with it or anything, but what's your sense of it? Do you think it has a chance of living up to the hype? I think iCOM hit a home run with the IC-7300, and I would love to think that the 705 will be in that league in terms of quality. And the fact that it's all-mode makes it seem like it should be another home run for running QRP. But then, you can also hook up an amp and go higher power for base station use. I can't imagine what's no to like! I know, I sound like I'm already sold on the thing. But I want to believe it could be the rig I've been waiting for all my life! ;-)
I'm a "resonant antenna guy" too but it really needs a tuner option. I mean come on, there is times you can only get a wire out or need to touch up the swr a bit. It astounds me all these bells and whistles and no tuner, maybe this is not the elecraft slayer we all thought it would be. This was a great video, thanks....
I have a reservation in at both GigaParts and DXEngineering. Whoever gets it first is getting my money :)
And then it gets sent to me right haha?!
Ha! Hey Mike, I'm about 10min from you! Can't wait for this rig to be released.
Right on man! We're all waiting in anticipation!
Ok so jump ahead 9 months from now, what will be the defining feature that this gives over other portable QRP radios? Seems there's no insight into how it performs outdoors under sunlight, frost, rain, damp conditions. Is it really a portable radio or a small QRP SDR computer.
Bet there will be a load of new screens wanted as well after its taken a tumble on a SOTA trip.... nargh.... not for me sorry.... not rugged enough... and as you say...that screen will be crap in sunshine... excellent remarks made though Carl...
He Carl, thanks for watching. I’ve taken my 7300 portable plenty of times and the screen is fine in the daylight, unlike some of the qrp radios I have. I don’t know of any Hf radio that is resistant to the weather, this one included. For me the defining features are hf/vhf/uhf dstar all in one tiny portable radio. And it has a (kind of) internal battery. I don’t have a radio that does 2 meter ssb either and this will fill that void for me too. Well have to see once it is released out in the wild and we put it through the ringer.
I'm still waiting for a 200 watt mobile from Icom. What gives, Kenwood has had one out for ages. Last thing I need is 5 watts.
Yeah but really 100W VS. 200W isn't going to get you much more.
@@hamradiotube ,. In a moblie it makes a HUGE difference.
@@radioman6489 Really? Interesting. I use my WRC antenna on my trunk mount, (a really crappy one at that) not grounded or bonded to anything at all running qrp and get out all over the place. I activate POTA all the time on my lunch break from my car as I work right down the street from a state park. Granted, all power from the car is shut off lest I get all kinds of noise.
@@hamradiotube , well I'd rather have 200 watts.
Great looking, well featured radio, but a little too expensive for me at the minute.
did icom never learned from there ICOM-02N antenna connector?
Sounds so amazing. But you might have lost me on the 10 watt output and > $1000 street price.
Thats the going rate for a quality qrp radio though. For everything they pack in this one, I think its priced pretty fair.
How much current does it draw on rx ssb? My IC-703 draws 350mA @9.6v on rx and of course it also has a tuner in it.
No clue. They haven't released many of the specs at all.
What is de RX frequency range. of the IC-705 ?? I can not find it in the brochure ??
Nice, but still mixed feelings. Used kx3 or ic705? I guess hands on at Hamvention will be the deciding factor!
I was thinking about getting a KX2 at Dayton this year but this has me reconsidering that.
I'm really eyeing this rig. I'm wondering if it will have any water resistance? I'm hoping so since it is being marketed as an outdoors/portable unit.
I don’t think it has any water resistance, but I can’t think of an hf radio off the top of my head that does.
@@hamradiotube, it's odd that they don't do it since they target it specifically for portability in the open world.
Good Morning. Sorry I missed you down there. I can't wait to see a full hands on review of the FCC legal version
Function screen 1 at 6:35 shows greyed out 'TUNER' button, any thoughts?
Well Ray said no tuner so I’d be inclined to believe him, but we can hope.
The most important on a QRP expedition is how sensitive is the receiving if it can beat my Elecraft KX2 it will be a keeper but if not I will put it on sale period
ALPHA1 good luck 👍 I like Icom but no chance it’s compares to kx2 front end
Yeah I’m curious. I’ve never used a kx2 but I really want one. Now that this is out it’s making it very hard to decide.
Ray, Where do we get the 5.11 Icom shirts? the concealed pocket will be perfect for the BP-272
It's a secret that I don't even know but now I want one!
Speculating on price as in the video but if it is 12 to 1500 US it's a deal breaker. I know price is not yet known but anything more that 8 to 950 US is over the top. And the back pak with it's contents is extra.
It might be steep for sure. We'll have to wait and see. You are getting a whole lot of features in a tiny package though. HF, VHF, UHF, D-STAR. If you are patient, like everything else, the price will drop eventually. Look at the 7300, you can get that for under $1000 now.
Mike, nice video. Can you tell me the model the Alpha antenna mag loop he was using? Thanks 73 and have fun at Hamcation de Roger W8RLP
Roger, Roger. I was so mesmerized by the radio I wasn’t paying much attention to the antenna so I really have no idea unfortunately.
I would be interested in a in an HF only version with antenna tuner and capable of 100 watts. I would be fine with losing the battery space to achieve the 100 watts goal. Their response to the antenna tuner question is interesting. Why do you want one when you can buy this $400+ antenna instead. Setting it up to sell the radio, antenna, and bag as a grossly overpriced package deal? He had a big gulp in there when you mentioned a price range and avoided the subject. For a product set to release in less then 2 months you would think maybe they would at least hint at a price range. Thanks for the videos.
Apparently confirmed in UK on Friday as £1199 but it could change - seem to remember a estimate of £800 when it was mid launch. Very nice piece of kit but I also wanted a 9700 at the time but not at £1800. For a hobby that’s suffering membership issues, these prices won’t attract new members. The old 703 will have to keep going a bit longer yet ......
That would be very cool to have a full power all band all mode radio from Icom. I don’t know how they are going to package the radio, antenna etc. Ray said the dealers will really come up with those. I sure as heck wouldn’t pay $400 for that antenna. That is insane. Prob $20-30 in parts.
So is the answer to the question of "why isn't there a tuner" then "just get a mag loop that can be made resonant on all your frequencies?" And if so...how much will that mag loop set me back?
That's not the answer to not having a tuner. Far as cost, I'm sure you could have easily bought a tuner for the price they will charge for the loop.
Nice job Mike!
I already pre-ordered one months ago.
Well when it comes be sure to immediately mail it to me for a complete review. I may or may not send it back after haha!!
Another great video - thank you... I'm really excited about this new radio. Do you know the specific model number/name of the Comet and Alpha antennas referenced in the video?
Michael VA6XMB
I don’t have any idea other than it’s Alpha. I looked at their website and only saw one antenna like that. It goes for $400. I’ll pass on that.
What exactly is changed at 11:00 or so that brings 40M into tune?
He's tuning the antenna for resonance by turning the knob on the box that the coax connects to.
How come he just pulls of the battery from the radio that's running.
The radio was plugged into an external power source for the show so the battery didn't matter.
For you QRP fans out there I see they have released the new icom 705 for about $1,300 dollars. But for about $450 dollars you can get a small lightweight QRP size Xiegu G90 transciever with internal antenna tuner that is so good it could probably tune up a head of lettuce, an antenna analyzer, a water fall, and up to 20 watts. However if you save up all your hard earned money, for and extra $850 more dollars you can actually get an icom 705 with no antenna tuner. ??? uh what did you say $850 dollars more of my hard earned money and NO ANTENNA TUNER. ??
Yeah but you haven't held the 705 in your hand. It is an amazing radio. You're really not comparing apples to apples though. Icom vs. Xiegu is like Ferrari vs. Kia. Yes, they are both radios, but one is a base grade entry level, with very, very few features other than the waterfall and a great tuner, the other is a high end, fine tuned machine with filters, a way better receiver, the same touch screen as on the 7300 and 9700, all band all mode. I completely understand where you are coming from, but they are not even in the same league. No antenna tuner is not a deal breaker for me at all. My first "portable" radio was the Yaesu FT-891. That doesn't have a tuner. I used resonant antennas. The first of which was a speaker wire dipole cut for 20 meters and it worked great. They will both get you on the air, and that's the most important thing.
K8MRD RADIO STUFF
Au contraire I beg to differ with you. Obviously you have not held a Xiegu G90 In your hand. It is pure quality because of the features it has. It has wonderful filters. It also has a CW decoder that is great. Just because that 705 has a flashy look to it does it mean under the hood it has quality like the Xiegu G90. I really like Icom ‘s. My favorite one is the 7300. I was looking forward to the 705 until I found out they took a 7300 and dumbed it down by removing the internal antenna tuner and much less Power and want to charge more money than for a 7300. Just because the crowd wants to go with a little flash I am not like one of the dumb lemmings jumping off the cliff after everybody else. Let me tell you one reason why. I have my small G 90 and I really really like to carry the portable chameleon Cha micro antenna with the 60 foot wire That I can use on bands up to 160 m. But the only way is to use an antenna tuner. If I bought one of those 705’s I would have to go and buy an external antenna tuner to carry two things to do what I do with one right now with one small radio. Otherwise I am stuck to a narrow spot of only having to have a resonant antenna. And I do not want to carry a whole bag of resonant antennas for each and every band. There are a few Antennas with Coils and different things on them to be able to make them resonant. But then I am restricted to only those products. I like the versatility of an antenna tuner and use a lot larger range of Antennas that I might want to use. Not only is the G 90 a first class outstanding quality QRP size Transceiver it is possible to turn it up to 20 W even though it is a small QRP size radio. For 2m I simply have an icom handheld. I have D star On my handheld and also on my icom 7100. but where I am there are no repeaters for D star that I can reach so it’s sort of useless for me right now where I Live. One person did put in a UHF D star repeater but hardly Anyone can reach it from my area. So I don’t have access to it where I am. I have a small go box that I made up. Look at my QRZ page KB5IOC to see it. It has the G 90 with its decoder and its internal antenna tuner where I can reach all bands but in my briefcase size waterproof go box I also have a 2 m connected to a TNC so I can get email even though I do not have access to the Internet by using Winlink. For me the 705 is a day Late and a dollar short of everything that I really need. If it had an internal antenna tuner I might have bought it but to me it’s just a dumbed down 7300 that cost more than the 7300 does. do not discount the G 90 is a fine quality instrument. I do not like to be restricted to have to only use certain antennas. I like to have a higher choice. And I really really like my chameleon cha micro antenna. And I do not want to have to give it up for a 705 that has no internal antenna tuner and it’s just a dumbed down 7300 that cost more.
@@docpearson I own a G90.
K8MRD RADIO STUFF I see you mention filters in the 705 but you did not mention the wonderful outstanding filters in G90. You say you own one obviously you have not checked it out very closely because You Did not mention those wonderful filters in the G 90. Why is this? have you over looked them. check out this comparison of the great filters in the G 90 compared to the Kenwood
ruclips.net/video/l4C8QI7L_lM/видео.html Icom has obviously hoisted its own petard where it left off that antenna tuner.
@@docpearson Oh boy, you again. Dude, I'm not going back and forth with you. You clearly are pretty narrow minded and have made up yours. Thats great. You like the G90. I do too. You seem to think it's the greatest radio since sliced bread and you are entitled to your opinion. But show me where the notch filter or the noise reduction is. Oh, wait, you can't. We all know you can narrow your band width with it. Not what I'm looking for.
The Elecraft T1 20 Watt Tuner will EASILY Velcro to the back of this thing if you absolutely have to have a tuner:
elecraft.com/products/t1-miniature-stand-alone-atu-and-accessories
A couple of 90 degree bnc connecters (maybe a bnc spacer in between) and its almost invisible from the front.
But honestly if you are taking this out in the field, you can get good resonance with a Wolf River Coil without it!
Does it have 4 mtr band?
Not in the US. I would think it would for the countries that use that band but I’m just guessing.
@@hamradiotube It's been confirmed that it will have 4m for UK versions, so it is technically capable of it, so other countries that have 4m shouldn't have an issue :).
HF, 6, and 2meters? I need this.
oak 1971 KD9NXQ plus air band ☺️
Isn't the power on this limited to 10W?
Yes this is a qrp portable radio.
@@hamradiotube I suppose it can always be used with an amp if used in a home setting. Nice looking rig.
KX 3 /2 still rules as the best portable radio IMHO .
Willian. Direction I agree. Needs an ATU like my KX3. No need to carry a backpack of stuff, just a wire and counter poise. You can bet Elecraft will make the KX4.
We’re gonna see. I think they are going to give them some competition for sure.
Showing the radio but doesn't now how many amps? 1.800 ma? my Chinese DMR has a better 2.800 ma batery. For a radio that price.
10:52 "Wow, just set up and ready to operate." At 5% efficiency, where as if we spend 20-30 mins putting up a proper antenna, you can get all 10w into the air :).
Loops are great to have in tight spaces, but using them as an argument against having a built in atu is a poor argument. Better just to take your own external atu if you MUST use a non resonant antenna.
2nd hand Z11 pro2's aren't that expensive :)
I agree with you 100%. I really wish they would have put a tuner in it. They could have put that in instead of D-Star. Who the heck is going to be going portable and want to use that? Not this guy. Still a very cool radio. Who knows, maybe they will see the error of their ways in the next gen? I know a lot of people are disappointed because of the lack of tuner.
@@hamradiotube It's a very cool radio indeed, already got a deposit down on one :).
Pieh0 as the saying goes,One born every minute. lol 😂
Does anybody know the IPX water proof rating for IC-705?
I don't think it has any rating for that.
I'm already sold on the radio does anyone know if it will have noaa frequencies on it?
I don’t know how high up 400mhz it tunes too. Hopefully it will go up to 470 like a lot of other radios.
Are they ever going to actually release this? 🙄
How many milliwatts is that battery. Oh man
enough to last several hours.
Whats a milliwatt battery???
Besides no ATU, (not a huge deal) I don't like the form factor much. It doesn't look like it sets well, needs a stand or something. Secondly I don't think, from what little I could find, it covers the noaa band's which would be nice for portable ops. Lastly touch screen and cold weather or wet weather might be an issue. Just my opinion. Love my 7300 alsoI have the 817 and an x5105 for portable. Still love the 817 best for cw/digi mode. 73 good video de KF7VUT
Ray told me they are looking into some designs for a stand. Would be silly for it to be sitting there looking straight ahead. I’m not sure how wide the receiver is so I don’t know about noaa. Hopefully it’ll go up there. It’s not that far above 70cm.
I am you usually a YAESU man . But this little ICOM ic-705 is a very cool QRP radio . Would love to know how much it will cost. YAESU needs to get on the band wagon and get something going in the same area. 73 AE4OY WILLIAM EM-81UF
Yaesu would make it so overly complicated though. Their menus are terrible. I don't think they really know what it takes to innovate. Look what they did with the FTDX101MP. The 3D scope they put in it looks like it came out of the 80's. It reminds me of Tron. I have 3 of their radios so I can say that. I've heard through the grapevine somewhere around $1200 for the radio. I would guess way more for the whole kit shown in this video.
Hi, the key are backlight?
You know I didn't check for that. They are not on the 7300 and I wish they were. I would guess no.
We need full duplex for this rig CQ Satellite
Aventon is it full duplex?
That and an internal tuner would be just about the only things missing from the radio.
If it had that i'd be waving bye to my dual 817's in a heart beat, but it looks like they'll be around for a while.
Expensive radio... likely worth it for what you get. No tuner? They showcase it with a crazy expensive antenna to compensate? Gah. Great video, but icom needs to find a tuning solution rather than what they are doing here. Xiegu comes to mind...
Yes all band all mode plus D-star is quite compelling. No doubt it will be on the upper side of the price range, but compared to its competition like the KX2/3, you get a lot more radio. The lack of tuner seems to be the hot button for some. Yes it would be nice to be able to use random wire antennas without an external tuner, like my PackTenna mini, but its not a deal breaker for me.
@@hamradiotube Sotabeams antenna would match perfectly with this as it is resonant set.
Fortunately, I have a Chameleon F Loop waiting to be used.
Very cool radio. But no ATU means, no ATU.... :-) 73 Stephan, DF6PA
That's not a deal breaker for me at all. Sure it would be nice to have, but resonant antennas are always going to be best. You can always use a portable tuner too.
@@hamradiotube Yes got, the Elecraft T1 tuner which is great. But I really like radios like the KX2 which include everything in a small box. :-) less wires, less hassle :-) Anyways, I will have a closer look at the IC-705 as soon as it is available. :-) 73, Stephan
It would be a much better radio if they would dump D-Star and add DMR.
I don't think there are going to be too many people buying this radio for D-Star. Us portable folk are clamoring for this radio because of the all band/all mode portable awsomeness that is packed inside. It's a portable 7300+9700. I can't wait to get mine!
Cute but 1k-800$ after Dayton rush 😉
Apparently it will retail in the UK at £1200!--NO THANKS
1200 they can p155 off not getting one ..jeff..
Is your camera the size of a grape? How many people are going to walk in front of it? Lol.
It’s just like if you set up an antenna in the middle of nowhere to operate portable, people will flock to it like a moth to a flame.
@@hamradiotube Sounds like a Ham Radio CQ experience lol.
Yeahooo are you watching this kg6mn
“Everyone’s favourite radio”????? Seriously? It may be a very popular radio but it certainly is NOT everyone’s favourite. It’s not mine for sure!!!
Icom really had a chance. But what they did was a collosal stupid mistake of epic proportions. What they did
was just took their icom 7300 and “dumbed it down” by removing the internal
antenna tuner which is the stupidest thing anybody could’ve done in the world
just so they could shrink the size of the radio and gave it the new name of
icom 705. But what they have done is they were close so close to the brass ring
and could have had one great QRP radio. But Nooo. What they did by removing the
internal antenna tuner thus dumbing down their radio and thus left the door
wide open and guess what. Xiegu an upstart new company that wants to go places
just walks right in With their smaller new G 90 “with” an internal antenna
tuner and a waterfall and one of the coolest SWR’s That can easily diagnosed
antenna problems. And the price is a fraction of what icom wants. And walks off
with the prize and leaves icom eating their dust. Icom had the chance and they
just dropped the ball and fell flat on their qrp faces. Whoever in their
company that decided to remove the internal Antenna tuner and everyone that let
them get away with it was the stupidest move Icome has ever made in their
history. Icom should be out right ashamed but they are going to pay through the
nose because Xiegu’s new G 90 is going to walk off with their lunch. Let me add
an additional note here. Every radio I own is icom.
I love icom but I have to be honest. Icom has absolutely been hoisted by their own petard by leaving that
internal antenna tuner out. Opening the door for Xiegu g90 to walk right over
them.
Yes, I agree for the most part. I think its still going to be a way better quality radio. The G90 is good, but it has no filters, no notch, no nothing. It serves it's purpose, and does it well for the price. The only gripe I have w/ the 705 is the lack of a tuner. Other than that, I think it is a great radio.
Actually Ciegu G90 has an outstanding first class Notch filter that is extremely good at cutting out extraneous noise and clearing up the signal. Here is a link to that RUclips video showing you that that great notch filter ruclips.net/video/nIQIWCUcSxY/видео.html. The G90 manual also mentions a digital filter.
Here is another RUclips video comparing the better G 90 filter against the Kenwood. ruclips.net/video/l4C8QI7L_lM/видео.html
I still think it is unwise to yank the battery out like Ray did, otherwise, why bother putting an On/Off switch on it :)
Aint goin to hurt it
@@jeromegrzelak8236 what other devices/appliances do you power off that way?
Nope! I Not everybody's favorite
Well now we know lol!! Thanks for watching.
Band conditions SUCK & ICOM releases a QRP rig? They are so Out Of Touch with reality it’s Pathetic.
Clearly you haven’t watched me work POTA QRP. The bands are only dead because people say the bands are dead instead of getting on the air and calling cq.