So I can really relate to this. July 4 I went to a party. I quit benzos on June 3. Coming home from the party which was a disaster for me as I was completely wigged out, the sun was coming through the trees and we are riding along, and it was sun no sun, sun, no sun sun, no sun.I had to go and hide in my basement and cover up my brain when I got home it was terrible. Things are much better now thank goodness.
I just wanted to share my story here since this channel seems to be very on point ragarding withdrawals. I didn't take benzos, I took Sertraline, and SSRI, for 3+ years. It was during a quarter life identity/existential crisis, I was also suffering (C-)PTS symptoms such as (emotional) flashbacks, and I tried to make sense of all of it the best I could, to reprocess everything, I wanted to reach my full potential, and for that I needed to give meaning to my suffering and trauma, to heal and overcome it, but it was trauma and you need other people validation to heal your trauma, and I didn't have that sadly, even if I tried for years. I was involuntary commited to a psychiatric ward because I was so angry and wanted to function so much but I couldn't because of said PTS symptoms. I was already carrying a lot of traumatic/"toxic" shame and reppressed anger (which is basically internalized oppression), and I tried to control said symptoms and to force myself to be functional controlling my food intake, using food as a reward-punishment for doing the "right" thing, as a positive-negative reinforcement. I also knew what was coming if I couldn't show myself in public in an acceptable way: I was going to be pathologized. And I got pathologized when I was hospitalized. In fact, I tried so hard to keep the logic in my story that I was diagnosed with OCD (total bullshit, if you ask me). Even before the hospitalization I searched for answers and meaning to my experiences in the DSM/mainstream psychology, as lots of people do, but there is no real meaning to be found there, its explanations are not scientific knowledge, those diagnoses are circular logical fallacies, you have deppression because you are deppressed, you are deppressed because you have deppression... Yeah, there is something wrong in your brain but it can't be medically proven... Your deppressed brain can be scanned to "prove" that it's ill, abnormal, but that's it, no other "medical" tests are on the table, that's why people are not diagnosed with mental illnesses following medical tests, It's a joke, it's all lies, so there are no real answers there. Most of the so called mental Illnesses can not be proven medically which means they are not real medical illnesses but pure social constructs based in what is considered normal VS abnormal behavior. If you are expected to be functional all your life, i.e. to work until you can't any longer without showing sign of emotional distress, then for example "deppression" becomes and illness, meaningless, illogical, abnormal, pathological. Western society is very individualistic, and judgemental, that means that no one can heal their traumas because if you can't see past the individual (believing that individual can act totally freely and disconnected from the environment, which is this society blind belief in free will) then you can not understand him and give him compassion as well, you just judge others and yourself, thinking that it's all personal choices, no validation can be found, received or given, no heal can happen. So I couldn't heal, as the rest of this deeply traumatized and disconnected individualistic society. But I didn't even realized, because with Sertraline I was high, totally dettached from my real and natural emotions, in fact, it worked so well that I thought my trauma and long standing emotional and personal/life issues were finally in the past. It turned out I was just emotionally numbed, sedated, and confused, it's what Peter Breggin calls medical spellbinding, and I didn't realize that until 2-3 years after I stopped taking the pills. I was so confused. I forgot how to live and cope with reality without Sertraline, I couldn't move on, so I got stuck in the past at an emotional and mental level. What these psychiatrists do is criminal, they're so indoctrinated and are so blind to the consequences of their acts, so brainwashed. Psychiatry and mainstream psychology is the worst place to find meaning and healing, it's all indoctrination, victim-blaming and gaslighting, more of the sick individualistic Western mindset.
From someone that has experience with both benzo and opiate withdrawal...benzos can actually be much more difficult to quit. It's very complex and takes a lot of patience. It's nice to see you advocating knowledge about harm from benzos. There simply isn't enough people with benzo experience that can effectively teach others. It's something I feel most people don't properly recover from and we need to spread all the knowledge we can. Thanks Dan!
The other day I was in my living room and started to become overwhelmed because all the furniture, doors, trim, TV were made up of right angles and it looked artificial and made me think I was living in a simulation and I was literally freaking out that there WAS such a thing as right angles. Last week at work the warehouse that shares a wall with us was blasting music and I could hear the bass and was so distressed I almost cried. My manager has an awesome Russian accent that I could normally listen to for hours but a couple months back I could hear him talking and it just bored into my brain, " Nyip nyup nap nyip nyup..." Again, I almost had to run away. Thank you as always for your insight.
Thanks for this Dan. You are helping so many people, and I'm glad to have you helping me. Sensory issues are just horrible. Nice smile by the way. :). Smiles help a lot too!
So glad I’am not alone feeling with extreme sensory issues Every hair follicle on my head is painful itches, if one hair touches my face omg! My skin gets extremely itchy then stings. I have to change my clothes several times a day due to the skin sensitivity. Thanks for touching on this. It’s so distracting every day along with the rash and dry skin. Thanks Dan so much ♥️
Ps. Ohh. Was going to ask Did you have constant vibrations inside? It sucks muffins too. 😢. I think it might be connected to akathisia. Not sure though
I understand the sensory overload and still have it. That was funny about clothing I remember times when I was fidgeting and or certain fabrics seemed to make my nerves heighten.
Truly a horrifying experience. I'm finding it really difficult to not harbor resentment for me Dr. Maybe a video on paranoia, or losing your default mode network? Thx.
Also Dan . Have you cover this topic . What about body heat like internally? Is that a symptom as well. Can benzo withdrawal cause your body temperature to be irregulated ?
Maybe we could talk about potential treatments for speeding up recovery. It should not take years, that is crazy and I'm sorry you had to go through that. I wonder if mHBOT can help with speed up the process
Hi Dan! Thanks for doing a video on this. I'm going through this right now. On my 19th month of tapering off a 40 year Ativan dependence. I am now on quarter milligram. My last cut was bad (quarter milligram). Lights at night were so blinding I had to wear sunglasses.I couldn't drive myself because I couldn't handle the car headlights. Cannot tolerate anything too loud. Taste buds are heightened (the ONLY good sensory overload), sense of touch, double vision and the most prevalent one is my sense of smell. I have the nose of the bionic woman! Not good sometimes. On my 3rd month of a hold and the eyes and sound issues have resolved a little. So, thanks for bringing this up. This has been the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. Have a great day.
Absolutely. I nearly lost my mind when the gardener came one day making so much noise! I am extremely sensitive to the feel of fabric on my skin. Every single movement required tremendous effort still. It’s been 4 years.
The worst is when people don't believe you. My husband think i have general anxiety disorder. But i feel so ill. i had noise sensitivity, light sensitivity, sleep destroyed. He yells at me. Im extremely more sensitive. I try to explain that it hurts me more when he yells, Because of what happened to me. He said " i hurt you" no im telling you the truth. He was so frustrated with me. Its awful awful the way he treats me being this way. Im sick. Im mean you would not treat a cancer patient this way and yell at them. He yells, he tell me go away go to your room, i don't want to hear you scream , i sream because my fear has become even more so because of how i am.
@@philosophicalfishing thanks you I was thinking of maybe doing a session with you. For coaching. I'm still thinking about it. Thanks for reaching out.
Dan I’m about to take my last .5 one month taper from 3MGs a day this month till my last .5 I have gabapentin for seizures and some supplements that’s it. can’t go to facility cuz I have no money or insurance. Any advice ? Me and my mom are concerned btw I actually been feeling withdrawals bad already so it’s already started before this last .5 me and my mom want to know any advice ?
@@philosophicalfishing it’s been very horrible tho . Todays been different I’m smiled laughed and joked and today I’m wondering why am I so happy when the last week has been like crazy bad really tough my whole nervous system in total shock .. I can try and get a script . But I just wanted off so I tapered and didn’t do it write . My mom really likes your channel and we watch all your videos .
@@philosophicalfishing Dan is everyone’s DPDR different? The world don’t look artificial to me or fake . To me it’s brown fog numbnesss . I don’t feel real . Like I’m fading away feeling . But not to the extent I feel above myself or anything. With your experience from people . Is dpdr different for alot of people ?
My worst symptom is that my nerves are moving, my nervous system is not in its place its moving up and down, its freaking me out.. i had this after stopping benzos after 6 weeks and was getting worse after being polydrugged in 4 months time with 7 meds.. i am out now for 4 months but i dont see really improvement my brain feels also really locked
Yes, but if you’re already in sensory overload I would suggest lighter body movement such as walks, stretching, yoga, or lighter weight/higher rep workouts.
Wow. This is me. Thanks Dan. Hey are you going to have a link tree on your website? Just wondering. Some want to buy you a coffee. I don’t use my phone to purchase. 😮. P
Brother please reply i Used klonopin 2 years and stopped no withdrawal effects again my GAD worsened recently 2 years used then tapered and 3 months more than 15 side effects i experienced main problem is I don't know the word to explain that it's like I am spaced or little dissociated like the whole environment I am seeing differently it is not going and this is not psychosis or nothing i again took klonopin i thought it should resolve but it won't is this cure the injury 😢 please reply
Taking more benzos won’t help once the injury has happened. It sounds as though you may be experiencing depersonalization and derealization, which is very common for those of us harmed by medications.
Did anyone go through a stage they couldn’t work ? I’m going through that now and did that heal for anyone ? I’m so scared I’ll never have a future and be a husband and have a normal job and life..
@@glynhayes5930 Not trying to be personal why can’t you work ? If you don’t mind how long were you on them and what’s stopping from being able to work ? You don’t have to share but if you can share I would like to know your story ..
I was in jail. An every noise in there was torture. People yelling all the time. It sucked . The jail cell doors slamming shut all day long. An cant show any weakness either or you become a target.
@@philosophicalfishing I would like to tell everyone my story . But I wanna heal completely first tho yiu know? But when I do ill come back here an let you know brother. Hopefully ittl bring people some hope.
So I can really relate to this. July 4 I went to a party. I quit benzos on June 3. Coming home from the party which was a disaster for me as I was completely wigged out, the sun was coming through the trees and we are riding along, and it was sun no sun, sun, no sun sun, no sun.I had to go and hide in my basement and cover up my brain when I got home it was terrible. Things are much better now thank goodness.
Yes, I know what you mean. I’ve had that experience too.
I just wanted to share my story here since this channel seems to be very on point ragarding withdrawals. I didn't take benzos, I took Sertraline, and SSRI, for 3+ years. It was during a quarter life identity/existential crisis, I was also suffering (C-)PTS symptoms such as (emotional) flashbacks, and I tried to make sense of all of it the best I could, to reprocess everything, I wanted to reach my full potential, and for that I needed to give meaning to my suffering and trauma, to heal and overcome it, but it was trauma and you need other people validation to heal your trauma, and I didn't have that sadly, even if I tried for years. I was involuntary commited to a psychiatric ward because I was so angry and wanted to function so much but I couldn't because of said PTS symptoms. I was already carrying a lot of traumatic/"toxic" shame and reppressed anger (which is basically internalized oppression), and I tried to control said symptoms and to force myself to be functional controlling my food intake, using food as a reward-punishment for doing the "right" thing, as a positive-negative reinforcement. I also knew what was coming if I couldn't show myself in public in an acceptable way: I was going to be pathologized. And I got pathologized when I was hospitalized. In fact, I tried so hard to keep the logic in my story that I was diagnosed with OCD (total bullshit, if you ask me). Even before the hospitalization I searched for answers and meaning to my experiences in the DSM/mainstream psychology, as lots of people do, but there is no real meaning to be found there, its explanations are not scientific knowledge, those diagnoses are circular logical fallacies, you have deppression because you are deppressed, you are deppressed because you have deppression... Yeah, there is something wrong in your brain but it can't be medically proven... Your deppressed brain can be scanned to "prove" that it's ill, abnormal, but that's it, no other "medical" tests are on the table, that's why people are not diagnosed with mental illnesses following medical tests, It's a joke, it's all lies, so there are no real answers there. Most of the so called mental Illnesses can not be proven medically which means they are not real medical illnesses but pure social constructs based in what is considered normal VS abnormal behavior. If you are expected to be functional all your life, i.e. to work until you can't any longer without showing sign of emotional distress, then for example "deppression" becomes and illness, meaningless, illogical, abnormal, pathological. Western society is very individualistic, and judgemental, that means that no one can heal their traumas because if you can't see past the individual (believing that individual can act totally freely and disconnected from the environment, which is this society blind belief in free will) then you can not understand him and give him compassion as well, you just judge others and yourself, thinking that it's all personal choices, no validation can be found, received or given, no heal can happen. So I couldn't heal, as the rest of this deeply traumatized and disconnected individualistic society. But I didn't even realized, because with Sertraline I was high, totally dettached from my real and natural emotions, in fact, it worked so well that I thought my trauma and long standing emotional and personal/life issues were finally in the past. It turned out I was just emotionally numbed, sedated, and confused, it's what Peter Breggin calls medical spellbinding, and I didn't realize that until 2-3 years after I stopped taking the pills. I was so confused. I forgot how to live and cope with reality without Sertraline, I couldn't move on, so I got stuck in the past at an emotional and mental level. What these psychiatrists do is criminal, they're so indoctrinated and are so blind to the consequences of their acts, so brainwashed. Psychiatry and mainstream psychology is the worst place to find meaning and healing, it's all indoctrination, victim-blaming and gaslighting, more of the sick individualistic Western mindset.
From someone that has experience with both benzo and opiate withdrawal...benzos can actually be much more difficult to quit. It's very complex and takes a lot of patience. It's nice to see you advocating knowledge about harm from benzos. There simply isn't enough people with benzo experience that can effectively teach others. It's something I feel most people don't properly recover from and we need to spread all the knowledge we can. Thanks Dan!
Yes! Absolutely. Detoxing off opiates sucks but absolutely nothing compared to benzos.
The other day I was in my living room and started to become overwhelmed because all the furniture, doors, trim, TV were made up of right angles and it looked artificial and made me think I was living in a simulation and I was literally freaking out that there WAS such a thing as right angles.
Last week at work the warehouse that shares a wall with us was blasting music and I could hear the bass and was so distressed I almost cried.
My manager has an awesome Russian accent that I could normally listen to for hours but a couple months back I could hear him talking and it just bored into my brain, " Nyip nyup nap nyip nyup..." Again, I almost had to run away.
Thank you as always for your insight.
Thank you for sharing this because I can relate to you, and I’m sure others can too. The mental torture unreal
OMG I can so relate! It’s a challenge every day. Thank you for sharing about this. You are a great blessing Dan 🙏
I’m sorry that you can relate, but I’m happy that you found this video helpful.❤️🩹🙏🏻
I've had no windows I feel like this all the time.
Love your video's Dan 😊
Thanks Lisa!
Thanks for this Dan. You are helping so many people, and I'm glad to have you helping me. Sensory issues are just horrible.
Nice smile by the way. :). Smiles help a lot too!
Thank you, Penney! 😄
Driving was an issue for me…the motion of everything flying by
Everything looks like it's moving too fast.
You are one amazing human being ❤
🙂✌🏻🙏🏻
So glad I’am not alone feeling with extreme sensory issues Every hair follicle on my head is painful itches, if one hair touches my face omg! My skin gets extremely itchy then stings. I have to change my clothes several times a day due to the skin sensitivity. Thanks for touching on this. It’s so distracting every day along with the rash and dry skin. Thanks Dan so much ♥️
You’re speaking my language. I had those issues too. I also changed clothes a lot due to this. Dry skin too! Uh, it’s so irritating
Ps. Ohh. Was going to ask Did you have constant vibrations inside? It sucks muffins too. 😢. I think it might be connected to akathisia. Not sure though
Yes, I did have the inner vibrations. And yes, it did suck many muffins indeed.
I understand the sensory overload and still have it. That was funny about clothing I remember times when I was fidgeting and or certain fabrics seemed to make my nerves heighten.
Yeah! Me too. I had a few shirts I liked wearing and the rest just never “felt” right
Truly a horrifying experience. I'm finding it really difficult to not harbor resentment for me Dr. Maybe a video on paranoia, or losing your default mode network? Thx.
Also Dan . Have you cover this topic . What about body heat like internally? Is that a symptom as well. Can benzo withdrawal cause your body temperature to be irregulated ?
I’m in it,, great content, I’ll add when feeling better❤
Maybe we could talk about potential treatments for speeding up recovery. It should not take years, that is crazy and I'm sorry you had to go through that.
I wonder if mHBOT can help with speed up the process
Have you tried HBOT? Or point me in the direction of a success story
Hi Dan! Thanks for doing a video on this. I'm going through this right now. On my 19th month of tapering off a 40 year Ativan dependence. I am now on quarter milligram. My last cut was bad (quarter milligram). Lights at night were so blinding I had to wear sunglasses.I couldn't drive myself because I couldn't handle the car headlights. Cannot tolerate anything too loud. Taste buds are heightened (the ONLY good sensory overload), sense of touch, double vision and the most prevalent one is my sense of smell. I have the nose of the bionic woman! Not good sometimes. On my 3rd month of a hold and the eyes and sound issues have resolved a little. So, thanks for bringing this up. This has been the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. Have a great day.
I’m in awe of you! You’re a true warrior, my friend. Coming out of 40 years of use…. Amazing.
We love you too Dan!
❤️🙏🏻✌🏻
Absolutely. I nearly lost my mind when the gardener came one day making so much noise! I am extremely sensitive to the feel of fabric on my skin. Every single movement required tremendous effort still. It’s been 4 years.
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The worst is when people don't believe you. My husband think i have general anxiety disorder. But i feel so ill. i had noise sensitivity, light sensitivity, sleep destroyed. He yells at me. Im extremely more sensitive. I try to explain that it hurts me more when he yells, Because of what happened to me. He said " i hurt you" no im telling you the truth. He was so frustrated with me. Its awful awful the way he treats me being this way. Im sick. Im mean you would not treat a cancer patient this way and yell at them. He yells, he tell me go away go to your room, i don't want to hear you scream , i sream because my fear has become even more so because of how i am.
I’m so sorry to hear this. Yes, all sensory input is so heightened during this. ❤️🩹
@@philosophicalfishing thanks you I was thinking of maybe doing a session with you. For coaching. I'm still thinking about it. Thanks for reaching out.
Dan I’m about to take my last .5 one month taper from 3MGs a day this month till my last .5 I have gabapentin for seizures and some supplements that’s it. can’t go to facility cuz I have no money or insurance. Any advice ? Me and my mom are concerned btw I actually been feeling withdrawals bad already so it’s already started before this last .5 me and my mom want to know any advice ?
That’s a really fast taper from 3mg. Can you get a doctor to write you more scripts so that you can taper slowly?
@@philosophicalfishing it’s been very horrible tho . Todays been different I’m smiled laughed and joked and today I’m wondering why am I so happy when the last week has been like crazy bad really tough my whole nervous system in total shock .. I can try and get a script . But I just wanted off so I tapered and didn’t do it write . My mom really likes your channel and we watch all your videos .
@@MattRinehart-e4e hey, go with it man. Glad you’re feeling better!
@@philosophicalfishing I don’t get my script till 5 days . I have gabapentin tho . Think I can make that 5 day threshold? In your opinion?
@@philosophicalfishing Dan is everyone’s DPDR different? The world don’t look artificial to me or fake . To me it’s brown fog numbnesss . I don’t feel real . Like I’m fading away feeling . But not to the extent I feel above myself or anything. With your experience from people . Is dpdr different for alot of people ?
My worst symptom is that my nerves are moving, my nervous system is not in its place its moving up and down, its freaking me out.. i had this after stopping benzos after 6 weeks and was getting worse after being polydrugged in 4 months time with 7 meds.. i am out now for 4 months but i dont see really improvement my brain feels also really locked
I’m so sorry that you’re going through this. I was also polydrugged terribly
@@philosophicalfishing do you think this can be normal again?😅
@@fennax17 yes, you’re still early on. If you give yourself time I think you’ll likely see some great improvements.
@@philosophicalfishing thankyou😊
@@fennax17how are you now
Dan, can exercise help sensory overload?
Yes, but if you’re already in sensory overload I would suggest lighter body movement such as walks, stretching, yoga, or lighter weight/higher rep workouts.
Thanks Dan. Going through xanax tapering now. Hellish.
❤️🩹🙏🏻❤️🩹
Wow. This is me. Thanks Dan. Hey are you going to have a link tree on your website? Just wondering. Some want to buy you a coffee. I don’t use my phone to purchase. 😮. P
Hey Paula! Yes, my linktree should be in the description box under my videos. Here it is-
tr.ee/rdhVVM50Id
😂 I meant on your website philosophical fishing. No link tree ?
Found it. Thanks
@@minty2455 oh shoot, no I don’t have my linktree on my website. Perhaps I should🤔
I just sent you 5 coffees. lol. It’s fine. Sorry for the confusion. P
How do I deal with depression and anxiety?
That’s a great question. I have learned a lot of tools that I use today depending on what I’m dealing with.
Dan did you go through neuropathy for a period of time ? It’s freaking horrible and did it heal for you overtime ?
Omg I watched transformers 5 weeks into withdrawal and I couldn't handle it either. Not just the noise but the faces made me feel weird.
What?!? You too? It was so intense that I was rattled for the rest of the day.
Brother please reply i Used klonopin 2 years and stopped no withdrawal effects again my GAD worsened recently 2 years used then tapered and 3 months more than 15 side effects i experienced main problem is I don't know the word to explain that it's like I am spaced or little dissociated like the whole environment I am seeing differently it is not going and this is not psychosis or nothing i again took klonopin i thought it should resolve but it won't is this cure the injury 😢 please reply
Taking more benzos won’t help once the injury has happened. It sounds as though you may be experiencing depersonalization and derealization, which is very common for those of us harmed by medications.
Thanks for your response take care you are inspiring for people
Did anyone go through a stage they couldn’t work ? I’m going through that now and did that heal for anyone ? I’m so scared I’ll never have a future and be a husband and have a normal job and life..
You’ll get there. I was out of work for 6 months and even when I went back it was so hard. But, it got better. Little by slowly
I’ve not worked for 4 years.. I miss it a lot.
@@glynhayes5930 Not trying to be personal why can’t you work ? If you don’t mind how long were you on them and what’s stopping from being able to work ? You don’t have to share but if you can share I would like to know your story ..
I was in jail. An every noise in there was torture. People yelling all the time. It sucked . The jail cell doors slamming shut all day long. An cant show any weakness either or you become a target.
Absolute nightmare
I would love to hear your story
@@philosophicalfishing yeah it was intense.
@@philosophicalfishing I would like to tell everyone my story . But I wanna heal completely first tho yiu know? But when I do ill come back here an let you know brother. Hopefully ittl bring people some hope.