Nik COLLECTION 5: CLEARVIEW (A Hidden Gem Found In: COLOR EFEX PRO 5 and SILVER EFEX PRO 3)
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
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Today I will be taking a Deep Dive into the CLEARVIEW Filter, found in Nik COLLECTION 5. You will find CLEARVIEW in Nik COLOR EFEX PRO 5 and Nik SILVER EFEX PRO 3. I am comparing the CLEARVIEW Filter with PHOTOSHOP'S DEHAZE Filter, found in the Adobe Camera RAW Filter. I'll be applying both of these filters to 4 different images and we will find out which filter wins. Will it be Nik COLLECTION 5'S CLEARVIEW Filter or PHOTOSHOP'S DEHAZE Filter???
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Today I will be taking a Deep Dive into the CLEARVIEW Filter, found in Nik COLLECTION 5. You will find CLEARVIEW in Nik COLOR EFEX PRO 5 and Nik SILVER EFEX PRO 3. I am comparing the CLEARVIEW Filter with PHOTOSHOP'S DEHAZE Filter, found in the Adobe Camera RAW Filter. I'll be applying both of these filters to 4 different images and we will find out which filter wins. Will it be Nik COLLECTION 5'S CLEARVIEW Filter or PHOTOSHOP'S DEHAZE Filter???
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Wow. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I will begin using Clearview from now on. You got some wonderful results. It would also be interesting to see how this compares to the TK8 De-haze function. Maybe that could be discussed on one of your TK8 Friday sessions.
Thanks, and agreed that DxO blows away ACR/LR (not just for haze management, but in general, plus you don't have to "rent" it), but please note that ClearView Plus is included with PhotoLab (I'm not sure what the difference is between ClearView and ClearView Plus). PL6 being my primary RAW processor, it usually makes sense to apply de-hazing as an early step in the process, similar to using a haze (or C-PL) filter on a camera (film or digital). Also, one of the many nice features of PL (5 Elite and beyond) is that you don't have to affect the entire image--U Point tech enables you to use Control Lines to apply ClearView (as well as adjust many other parameters) to just the sand and/or the sky, for example. That's not yet available in Nik (it may be difficult to implement, but I've asked DxO to try), but that's not a problem as if you want to apply it selectively, you just need to do so earlier in the workflow.
BtW, I only use Nik in cases where I want to tweak things not easily done in PL (although PL alone is more than sufficient to get many images into "printworthy" form), but it's very powerful, easy-to-use (although there's a learning curve to get the most out of it, as with any advanced program), and I use SEP for all of my B&W conversions--it's the next best thing to film (while being more flexible and clean/green).
Ironically, there are many cases where I wish I had more haze in images (fog isn't that common around here and it's so much easier to reduce it than add it convincingly in post), but there are of course many cases where dehazing is desirable and I apply at least a little ClearView to many images--it just makes them look better! As in most things--moderation is key.
Thank you, Dave. The head to head comparison was very helpful. I've used both dehaze and clearview but never took the time to compare with the same image. I'll be using Clearview more now.
Thanks; Clearview is clearly the winner, I'm going to have to start using it much more.
Estupenda demostracion...Gracias Dave...a partir de ahora usaré más el Clear view y menos el Dehaze. ❤👍
Each of your tutorials is quite a large dose of ideas for working on an image. I started You Tube adventure with you in 2022 and I believe it was important for my workflow and learning how to work in Photoshop. I hope that this year will be the same, and I wish you, everyone who watches your videos, and myself. Greetings from Poland from the city of "Fortress Przemyśl". Ps. Nik COLECTION is unbeatable as an addition to Phoptoshop and Clearview works much better in it than in ACR.
Thank you so much and Happy Editing.
Thanks, Dave. I don't use ACR positive dehaze much, but I do use negative dehaze frequently. It would be nice to have that feature available in NIK as well. I've tried using various combinations of fog filters and Clearview in NIK without much success. Beyond that, however, using Clearview as a contrast/clarity boost is something I need to experiment with, as its use in your beach scene clearly demonstrates its potential power. It seems that bright snow scenes could benefit from this feature tremendously. Your videos are always entertaining and educational. Well done!
Hello Mr. Kelly, I hope that you are doing well. I'll keep this short. I just wanted to say thank you for your videos, I've learned so much from your work.
Thanks for giving us such a clear view of this in action!
Very informative video. Thanks for showing the great features found in the Nik collection. This was one of the first programs I bought years ago before dxo took it over and it’s still one of my favorites.
You just highlighted another helpful tool I had no idea how powerful it is. Thanks Dave!
What an amazing difference. Thanks for another fantastic tutorial.
Great techniques, good job, Dave. Second only to PS, Nik color efex is my go to so this was great information.
Thanks and, as usual, a great prez. When I travel (X-Pro2, GRIII, and iPhone) While away, I did some initial editing via (IMHO peerless) LR Mobile. When I get home I, on my iMac, after syncing, I sometimes go from LR Classic to DxO and run esstiually the Pure Raw functions (Noise and Clear View) for the RAF and Ricoh raw). My next trip is to W Aus so maybe not too much dehazing needed though! Thanks again.
Great demonstration. Thanks for showing the difference.
Recent convert to DxO PhotoLab 6 and love it! ClearView Plus as it's called in PhotoLab 6 is amazing! 👍🏼
I’m fairly new to Nik and your tutorials have been essential! I hope DXO pays attention as well. Have been ignoring Clearview, but that changes today. Thanks so much for opening my eyes.
Wow! Thanks for the knowledge! Who knew about this???! 👍👍
Dave, as a new user to PhotoLab 6e, ClearView is one of main things (along with Smart Lighting) that attracted me. How cool that they have included ClearView in Color Efex & Silver Efex! Thanks for sharing these great examples, and pointing out that it's there. ClearView is a real value-add!
What a difference! Thank you so much for this!!
While I am longtime LRC (and NIK) user I purchased DxO and run my raw (Fuji and Ricoh) through it first using only Denise and Clearview. Thanks
I must admit I hardly ever used it. With your video, I will give it a try again !!
Thanks Dave
Hi Dave, great video. I’ve only just found your channel, no idea why it’s taken do long as I search for editing techniques often.
You have a new subscriber and I’ll be looking through your catalog for as many tips as I can find. I’m predominantly a LR user with a few dabbles in luminar AI and a failing relationship with PS
Thank you so much for sharing
Andy
Good comparison! Wow - I can't believe how much better Clearview is.
What filter or method do you like best to add fog?
I will have to think about that one.
thank you. would love to see a video incorporating TK8 with NIK. thank you again
Hi Dave, great video as always. I notice that the dehaze results in emphasising the lightness behind the trees, look at the trees in the middle. This is even more evident with Clearview. I have come across this with a few of my photos when editing. It would be great if you could do a video on how to resolve this using TK8.
That is light fog but I may have pushed the Clearview a bit to far on that image.
Thanks for finding and highlighting the Clearview filter in the NIK Collection. In my experience with using the Dehaze filter in either LRC or ACR, it adds a distinct blue cast to the haze. While that's can be nice for some fog, it was much too much blue both for the boat and for the city scene with the beach and camels. In those cases, the amount of blue in the sky was unacceptable, as you pointed out.
I'm glad now to have a "dehazing" filter that will not put an unwanted blue cast to my images.
Great feedback Steve. Thanks.
nice tuto. beautiful results
Hi Dave. I was using Clearview in DXO Photolab 6. I imagine it's the same concept as in NIK, correct me if I'm wrong. But I will check the one in NIK too. Looks fantastic! Thanks again Dave.
They are calling the Clearview in Photolab 6 (Clearview Plus). They aren't stating that the Clearview in the Nik Collection 5 is Clearview Plus, it may be the original Clearview but it is really good none the less.
Very interesting, thanks, recently aquired the NIK collection and working hard to perfect my skills with the program. I have tried to use NIK as an LRC add on and my primilinary results have been very satisfiying, particularly as (1)I usually shoot in RAW format and (2) I have been attempting to covert some photos to B&W, time will tell. I am a fan of Ansel Adams & Clyde Butcher.
Thanks for the great lesson, Dave. I've been using Clearview a lot. I think it works well with masks on some photos.
Great review, thank you.
Thanks Dave. Off topic, but is it possible to edit the Nik menu to display only ColorEfex and SilverFX? I don’t use any of the other plugins and would like to display a smaller and simpler menu.
I bought the Nik collection back in Nov when they had the 5 day deal sale. I've been using clear view and the detail extraction a lot. But I've noticed I get a lot of noise and grain when I use both. It's nothing that Denoise can't handle. I don't normally do street photography but I also bought a 40mm lens on black Friday for it. I've edited several of my pictures since then with silver effects pro.
I use clearview both in Nik and in DxO Photolab but I usually only apply it around 10-20%. I find the results at high settings start to look too much like an HDR tone-map. But its a great tool, and in DxO PL you can also use it as a local adjustment using control points, unlike in Nik where it is always global.
Great tip!
I agree about the 10-20%. And thank you for pointing out the possibility of local adjustment using Clearview Plus in DxO PL6 😊
Thanks for this interesting head to head. CLEARVIEW had an easy win, as you said. In CR, one needs multiple sliders to obtain a similar result, I think.
Good point!
This is great. hands down,clearview
Hi Dave, those tutorials are fantastic! not seen anything on NIK Collection 6, have you moved away from using NIK or just not enough interest on here? Thanks (Fred Cartier, UK)
Thanks Fred. I will be covering NIK Collection 6.
Thank you!
Wow never used before but will now!11
Hi Dave: Thanks again for spot-lighting this tool. I agree with your assertion that Clearview is much better than ACR De-Haze in most cases, but for me in the final B & W conversion the Clearview process seemed to introduce some more pronounce hallos in the image. This could simply be a function of the video compression for You Tube so I will try this myself. Regardless, this was a very helpful video. Keep well . . . Keith
I think is the video's compression I didn't notice it while I was editing.
Nice study. I have been a NIK user since its very inception and have found it can be somewhat harsh in its treatments at times. I however would be interested to see the Silver Efex Pro 3 example done by first converting the colour image to B&W directly from the colour image. You converted to a basic B&W image in Silver Efex Pro 3 from a Photoshop B&W conversion with a Photoshop B&W adjustment layer. I detect some haloing in the mid ground when applying the clearview slider in your Silver Efex Pro 3 example possibly because you've "double cooked" the B&W application. In other words id be interested to see the Silver Efex Pro 3 example by directly converting the colour Vibrance layer to a basic B&W image in Silver Efex Pro 3 and then adjusting the clear view slider. I suspect the mid ground haloing may be diminished and the result would be a cleaner application of the clear view slider effect. Perhaps you could provide the example images as you normally do for us to try on our own? Again a nice study in using the NIK Collection clear view slider. Thanks.
The image I sent into Nik Color Efex was a Color Image. It was not converted to BW in Photoshop. I Copied the background layer and set it on top of the Layer Stack and converted it to a Smart Object. You didn't see me do it in the video but that is how it was done. Sorry for the confusion.
@@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly Perhaps I didn't explain myself well enough. My apologies. It appears to me that the image that you opened with Silver Efex Pro 3 was already a B&W image. Am I correct? That's the way it appeared to me. That is why I made the statement "double cooked" vs opening/converting the COLOUR image in Silver Efex Pro 3 to B&W. No matter. I'll try the exercise myself attempting to replicate your method vs converting a colour image to B&W in Silver Efex Pro 3 and adjusting the Clearview slider.
@@davelindey8023 No it looked like it was a BW but it was a color image. In other words I sent it as a color image into Silver Efex Pro 3. It was a very low saturated image.
I didn't actually know about this and I have the Nik Collection. Thanks for making this clear! ;-)
Happy to help!
I think the clearview results were amazing but in the b&w I think it puts some heavy halos around the trees in the bottom left.
I think the halos you are seeing is actually a lighter foggy area.
@@thejoyofeditingwithdavekelly I had the same reaction to the halos - but even if it is just a lighter foggy area, the look is not good. So, perhaps cutting back on the Clearview setting would feather the transition?
@@DianneArnold Yes, I do agree.
Thanks ! How will clear view do against Topaz Sharpen AI for more detail ?-just wondering
Clearview is different from traditional sharpening filters such as Topaz Sharpen AI, and cannot be directly compared. It serves more as an enhanced version of a dehaze filter, with additional capabilities that make it more powerful than a standard dehaze filter.
Nic Collection is amazing..In general Adobe is behind in terms of quality. More noise, bad de-mosaicing in relation to competition etc. We just use Adobe because we learn it and for ease of use.
Thanks!
Thank you Steve.
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I tried the link and it is working. Here is the LINK: tidd.ly/2Rr4pRr Would you please try it again.
Would have been interesting if you had masked Sky and Inverted in ACR in desert scene
Good suggestion it would have helped the ACR Dehaze.
great
Dave, would ACR do a more comparative job on a raw image vs a JPEG? Carl
I am sure it would but I still think you would get very similar results like you saw in the video. I do believe Clearview will be better.
Clearview obviously does not do only the same thing as dehaze. It appears to increase texture, plus some increase in shadow contrast on the hazy pics. Comparing it as if it was a "better dehaze" is misconstruing its action. Rather, it should be compared to adjusting all of dehaze, clarity, and texture in ACR, and the point is that it makes a balanced adjustment of all these things with one slider.
The camel picture has no haze to begin with, so why in the world did you use it as an example of what dehaze does? It's just an obvious misapplication of dehaze, whereas the increase in clarity and texture provided by clearview *is* applicable to this image. So, you should have skipped dehaze in ACR and adjusted clarity and texture instead for a fair comparison.
Did you see all the halos clearview added to the leaves, ACR didn't do this so much. So actually I'm not convinced NUIK did a better job.
No I did not.
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Why PS ?? Just use PhotoLab ! and the NIK-filters also to create BW!
That works too. We have so many editing options today, which is great.