You should check them in a more playful korean vid, like “Dingo mafia dance”, because here they are still kind of reserved/calm as this is for a foreign media outlet.
the boys have a show called going seventeen and there's a recent episode about personality test it would be really cool if you reacted to some episode of going seventeen because they get more comfortable so their personality comes through more clearly in my opinion. btw I loved the react, I almost screamed when I saw the notification
Just a warning though it’s quite hard to follow along sometimes😭but tbh the mbti episode is probably the best for keeping up as they are not being AS chaotic
It’s really funny how you mentioned that Vernon gives you a sense of calm when you talk to him cause him and Seungkwan are actually really close and they’re polar opposites (even though they allegedly have the same MBTI 😂) so it’s really fun to watch the two of the interact cause you never would expect two people who are that different when it comes to energy levels to be that close but they balance each other out perfectly I suppose - Vernon even said just seeing Seungkwan makes him happy
@@dokyeomimie In the recent episode, the members took the test for their own members not for themselves so the results that they got, were what mbti they seem from other's perspective and not their true mbti.
Seungkwan, yea he's always looking around, he's the moodmaker of svt, the variety leader, he knows what and what not to do in variety shows and always do what he can to bring more entertainment and promote his members and groups, my man is honestly so thoughtful and hardworking
Your analysis that Seventeen members play into each other’s jokes is actually quite accurate. All of the members have quite the accurate sense of humour, as in what would work or what wouldn’t in terms of making others laugh (whether that’s themselves or others), along with the type of reactions to give to make things funny. In Korean variety shows, they often call it “sense” as in a sense for humour and just being overall sensible in making decisions that will suit the direction of a show. Of course, sensible may mean standing fully clothed under a shower while holding up an umbrella. But it is this sensibility in knowing what to do to incite laughs and reactions that is very precious in variety shows. Seungkwan for example, is very well-received by production crews for his “variety sense” as he really makes it easy for the production crew to edit clips and fill up a whole episode with content, because the things he does are really suitable to be aired on tv. Like using palm leaves props to emulate the MV of a different artist. Seventeen also uses the term “receive”, “airtime/screen time/footage” and “content” a lot. They acknowledge that “being funny” often requires teamwork, and a kind of “give and receive” from the joker and the jokee. So for example, if someone tries to make a joke, and it doesn’t land, or the members didn’t make a good reaction, the joker would often jokingly say things like, “why didn’t you receive [my joke]?” To which the members would react accordingly, either by not reacting at all to make it funnier, or reacting exaggeratedly and thus poking fun at each other. And whatever they do, that footage could now be “saved/rescued” instead of being shelved, since they were able to turn an unfunny situation funny. This is also another aspect of “sense” that’s also important. And another thing that the members are good at is estimating “airtime/screentime/footage” for different persons. If for example, they noticed that someone might not have gotten enough screentime to be aired, they would often step back and prompt the other person to say some words or ask them to join in on some thing to let them “secure some footage”. That’s also why Seventeen members are often well-received by production crews and other celebrities. They are really keen on team play and just helping each other out. While “content” is basically creating content to be aired. Jeonghan for example, is very good at suddenly creating absurd situations or some kind of games which would a) create additional content and b) allows himself (and by extension others) to secure footage. But he’s often a minimalist kind of guy, so when he thinks he’s secured enough footage, he would sometimes just fade into the back and help the other members get their footage. Different members also have different sense of humours. Seungkwan for example is very well-received in variety shows because he can often make something funny on his own. As in he sometimes doesn’t really need a “give and receive” technique to make things funny. Like his deadpan expression when talking about Jun in this video. Just that itself is funny. While others like DK, often does body gags. Where his humour speaks more towards body language and body action. And Dino for example, is very well suited to skits, like SNL type of stuff. And Vernon is just funny because he does a lot of things his own way and doesn’t have as high of a “variety sense” than the other members.
Woozi is a quiet person but with seventeen he became talkative so people always misunderstood that he is a talkative person (especially in going seventeen). But he is a good speaker and you can see it in going seventeen later on😁
i love watching max also enjoy people that i enjoy. even with way less context he still manages to put into words what makes different individuals charismatic in various ways
It's really interesting to see your comments about Seungkwan being very aware of his surroundings and others peoples! Especially because, being a carat I know that he's a very good entertainer, but seeing you point specifics topics and behaviour is kinda fascinating. Thank you for your reaction!
Mingyu is one of the youngest members so around many members in this group, he respectfully is just cute and quiet. Vernon is younger than him but because of the English, theres a subtle change instinctual to the impied hierarchy here. If this were their reality show Going Seventeen versus a more professional interview setting, he's much louder, shows his smarts more, and is much more active and engaging. Mingyu definitely has a smooth attitude but again, you're looking at professional appearances in promotion for a tour or event going on. If you watch Going Seventeen, you really get to see their personalities coming out when the content is just for the fans and them having fun with one another.
I agree, their personality somehow changes depending on the show. Like here, Woozi is like a sincere and serious guy who loves giving compliments, and that's exactly him during serious situations. But if it's in Going Seventeen, a show meant for fun, he likes making fun of people as part of his love language.
Loving how you immediately picked up on Hoshi and Woozi’s sincerity towards each other 😂 It’s probably because they go way back, almost 10 years if I’m not mistaken. Both of them were one of the earliest trainees and were highly skilled. So there was often a sort of competitiveness and respect towards each other. But both of them are also leaders of Seventeen. Woozi is the leader of the Vocal Unit, and produces the majority of their music. While Hoshi is the leader of the Performance Unit and often works with other choreographer teams to make the choreography for the group. In a way, both of them are kind of the same and have been through the same kind of hardships of being a leader and incharge of the group’s creative processes. Woozi for example always says that the members and in particular, Hoshi, are the reason why he always feel assured when creating Seventeen’s music because they’re the ones that likes his music the most. It’s also always interesting to see the dynamics between them two. Because Hoshi is often very outgoing in his expression of love and very smiley I would say. While Woozi’s personality is often quite “tsundere”, as in “cold on the outside and warm on the inside”. So it’s always a treat to be able to see him accept praises and give praises back. Hoshi also has his what we like to call “tiger agenda”. He’s very into tigers these past couple of years. And it has slowly grown from having tiger phonecases and outfits to sometimes calling himself Tiger, like in his introduction. He’s also coined the phrase “Horanghae”, which is a mixture of Hoshi + Saranghae (I Love You). However, Horang also means “tiger” in Korean so he’s very much leaning into tigers right now. And Woozi and The8 are often called the “anti-Horanghae squad” who often tries to get Hoshi back to reality and “become a person” instead of being a “tiger”. So it’s also very endearing to see Woozi (and The8) sometimes indulging Hoshi and calling him “Tiger” or saying Horanghae to him to make him smile or happy. Like on Hoshi’s birthday, or to get his attention.
One video that came out a few days ago is them taking the friendship test, which shows even more of their personalities. So If you don't have anything prepared already, I would recommend you check out that one as well at some point.
4:10 You're so right about Seungkwan I really do feel like making jokes and teasing the members is one of his many ways of showing love to them. And also he said once that Jun is in fact one of his favorite members🤣
You are right, Seungkwan shows his love for his members by fighting with them (especially with Dino and Mingyu). It's one way he shows that he is present and he listens to them. With Vernon, Seungkwan always nags because Vernon is the one who understands and tolerates him the most. Interestingly, it seems that Seungkwan has a soft spot for Wonwoo and often shows his appreciation and love for Wonwoo by back hugging him. I don't think I ever see Seungkwan tries to fight Wownoo (and he fights everyone lol)
4:11 That’s so spot on, omg. Seungkwan adores Jun so much, the affection he gives Jun makes him seem like he’s the older one among the two 😆🤍 8:17 This part too! The members (Seungkwan especially) often say Woozi doesn’t say stuff he doesn’t mean. That’s why they value his compliments so much because they know he’s sincere about them.
9:10 Yes! I think you put it in better words than I did. You can see his “variety senses” working and making decisions in his head as to how to make this situation more humorous. I guess in a way you could also say that he’s a very responsible person. Always taking care of others and the group especially. I really think he’s a very intelligent person, particularly in terms of EQ. Because being able to uphold that “variety sense” really takes a lot of mind power. The members also take notice of his heightened sense of responsibility and often says to him to relax and “turn off” his variety sense, and let the rest takes care of stuff. I think In The Soop may show Seungkwan being more present and letting go of his variety persona. Since the show is more based on relaxation. But I think it is quite rare to see him fully shed out of this persona, since it is such an integral part of himself.
actually seungkwan often felt stressed in interviews or variety shows bc he always think he need to bring the tension/energy up (especially if he did it with other members bc he tend to monitoring them to also be funny and active) thats why you realized how he always reading the room. in the more natural setting with ppl he is close to and comfortable being around (which will you see if you started watching going seventeen) he become more quiet. people who get to know seventeen from interviews or their musics mostly would be shocked when they watch going seventeen lol. thanks for the reaction! seungkwan is my bias and i love how you found his character/personality interesting in a good way :D
If you want to check out an interview with smaller groups, I really recommend checking out their interview with FO Squad! There were only 4 of them (Vernon, Joshua, Mingyu and Seungkwan) but they really seemed comfortable in that interview. And although there were the 2 English speakers there, Mingyu and Seungkwan really didn’t falter behind in terms of interactiveness with the hosts. In fact, I think them two actually stole the show away 😂
Your analysis on this small group of svt is very spot on! I'm really impressed the way you can tell their personalities just observing the way they communicated with each other. You're right, Woozi is a quiet member but when he talks about his feelings especially about making music to his members and fans, you can feel his sincerity, love and passion about it. Same goes when he writes a long heartwarming letters/posts everytime they celebrate anniversaries with fans and when they won an award. Meanwhile for Jun, you definitely got it right about him being a quiet member but a prankster. It's really him 😂. You will get to see that side of him a lot in Going Seventeen. Last but not least, thank you for reacting to seventeen. I'm looking forward for your next analysis of them 😊
it’s cool how much you can tell about their personalities with short videos like these, i’ve seen a lot of their content and you got all of their personalities right. as other people have mentioned they have a variety show called going seventeen, hopefully you can react to it soon :)
A great opportunity to see a more vulnerable side of Seungkwan is when he appeared on Lee Youngji's show Not Much Prepared. Hoshi also appeared on a seperate episodes and they both got really vulnerable and talked about their concerns. It was really interesting to watch Seungkwan and Youngji interact as they are close friends.
Putting together "Vernon" and "sense of calm" is... So true. He is just naturally a super chill person, and has a very relaxed, laid back attitude all the time. He's also known for sometimes getting lost in his own head and forgetting his surroundings
seungkwan an extrovert person but he really shy in person , most people who want to be close with surprised by his true personality because it’s different from what he shows in front of the camera, yes he likes teasing but seventeen members said that his teasing just for someone he love, he maybe seems like really not in a good term with dino but they really close with each other, they said that new staff always ask them if they’re okay and worried if they really fight with each other but nothing to worry
So cool to see you get so much correct about them! I'd recommend watching a Korean interview at this point to see how they all interact without the pressure of speaking in English and the barrier of translation. I like the Esquire hip-hop team interview, Dingo Left&Right Mafia Dance, or the first 10 minutes of the Seventeen 5th Anniversary Special Video, where they plan out a skit and act as each other. Another good choice is "SVT Jaejae combo that surpasses the combination which never gets quiet" by MMTG channel.
I like how you discussed Jun-Seungkwan’s dynamic at around 4:00. You’re pretty on point on that too because aside from probably Vernon, Seungkwan has oftentimes seen having the softest spots for Jun. Like he realy really adores Jun and has always been seen complimenting Jun. I enjoyed the discussion. Thank you!
Woozi and Hoshi are 2 of the 3 leaders of SEVENTEEN. That may be a factor why their communication style and the way they present themselves give off a certain depth, sincerity and also confidence. The others will naturally listen and respect them along with joking around them.
I can’t wait for you to dive into their show ‘Going Seventeen’ because you can see them in their most comfortable environment and all of their personalities really shine there
There is an episode of Knowing Bros with Seventeen (EP.252) that is really good, it's really long, but you can see a lot of their personalities, and in the beginning of the episode they also are being introduced to the audience, so they give each member a little bit of time to shine and talk individually as they interview one by one
There are a lot of going seventeen videos that focus on 'improv' and random acting skit things that I think would be funny to react to for "communication purposes". Going company or seventeen talent show would be funny ones. Or Seungkwan's past life destiny for some more organized chaos.
I know what you said about Seungkwan is how most people see him at first, esp through these types of interview, but I see him mostly as a really sweet guy (physical affection is how he shows love, even above how much he likes teasing), he's a little shy despite being extroverted (soobin from txt's words, and he's talked about going on long walks alone at night just to think) and he's actually EXTREMELY self conscious. According to the members he's the one who worked the hardest trying to get their names out there (calling people directly to get them on tv for example) and i think he's just very aware of what people like to see which makes him very popular in korea but he feels the pressure a lot. Maybe he comes of a little off in english interviews bc he's mostly accustomed to korean sense of humor which is different from what americans like from celebrities usually
i've really been enjoying your seventeen reactions so far, it's definitely interesting to hear your analyses and how accurate they are! if you want another one of these shorter interview type videos to watch, i recommend "seventeen take a friendship test" on glamour, it just came out a couple days ago! but it would also be great if you check out going seventeen as others have suggested, looking forward to part 2 of this ^^
Honestly, to me Seventeen has the most unique and interesting dynamic of all the groups in kpop. I saw that nowhere else to be this close, loving, chaotic (to make a good show) but also extremely organized. The way I explain it is "they are their own mini-society". They know themselves so well that they are like a machine with every components working perfectly together. When they arrive somewhere, instead of playing to assign the rooms randomly like I saw with other groups, they sit down and discust who is gonna sleep where based on the needs of each individuals (and they do respects each needs strictly). It is for real VERY impressive to me to see how many they are but how united they also are. And that's why they are so special in my opinion. I'm so fascinated by them and I think it shows, sorry 😆
i love woozi and hoshi's relationship, they've been friends a very long time and they make fun of each other a lot but they often genuinely compliment each other like in this video and you can tell they really mean it, its so sweet
Yes, Vernon is extremely laid-back. If you watch one of the latest eps of Going Seventeen called Know Thyself (#1 and #2) you can have a glimpse of their personality and how they see each other. Seungkwan loves Jun sooo much! HE says here that Jun makes unfunny jokes but has repeatedly said in other occasions that he is the funniest member. Hoshi and Woozi spend a lot of time together. They usually work out together, and while Woozi spends most of his day in the studio producing, Hoshi constantly visits and ask Woozi to teach him about producing and using professional softwares. Also, SCoups, Woozi and Hoshi are each leader of a subunit, S.Coups also being SVT's general leader, so they sometimes show this side of taking care of the other members and actively listening and giving them space.
Mingyu does like to be in the spotlight but he’s not alway forcing it, sometimes he just likes reacting to the members. Also seungkwan and him are an interesting duo, they’re a variety show favourite, the two of them are often paired up because their dynamic is really Tom and Jerry like. Seungkwan would tease Mingyu for breathing
You description of seungkwan is so accurate, he loves making people laugh and his love language is teasing people, i swear he doesnt let anyone breath cause he tease every person existence, he is a whole character in korea variety shows... i've been fan of seventeen since 4 years ago and the dynamic of these group is one of my favorites...Btw nice video!!! I like how you point the little details ✌😊
Actually the part here where Seungkwan insists he’s not funny is because - I’m sure you’ve seen in the other comments here - of how he’s perceived as the “variety show king”. He’s so funny and so good at variety shows that people would associate him with that first before they realize that oh he’s actually a singer and part of Seventeen. That’s why you’ll find him saying things like “I’m not a comedian” or “I’m not funny”. A good example of this is his cover of a song called “Wifi” which actually started as a gag, something he did in a variety show for laughs, the way he was able to mimic an intermittent internet connection in the chorus. But then he actually did post a full cover of the song where he was able to showcase his vocal skills (i feel as a way to show that no he’s not a comedian, he’s a singer haha).
It’s so amazing getting to watch how you assess their interactions because it’s so spot on. I can’t wait for you to fall deeper into the rabbit hole of seventeen, I promise you won’t regret it 😂🥹 and yes to your patreon!!
in terms of Going Seventeen, i really encourage you to check out the TTT series! because its just them going and having fun and being themselves, and i think thatd be really cool for you to see and react to first before the other ones.
They also have a documentary series and each episode is about each member in which you can see a more serious side of them (it’s on RUclips and each episode is like 10 minutes long)
One of the members Minghao, you may know him better as The8 said on a show that sometimes he feels sorry to (for) Seungkwan because he's the best at variety (he's technically a celebrity in Korea outside of seventeen because of his variety appearances) so he may feel burdened to put on this extra persona. (In the context of the show I'm not certain certain whether The8 said it jokingly or not. I feel like it was half joke half sincere). So this may play into Seungkwan always paying attention to the atmosphere so he can decide on what to do next. But the members have said that he's very attentive naturally so I guess everything intertwines.
Just like how Vernon and Seungkwan are extremely close, it's the same with Hoshi and Woozi. They're rarely apart too, Woozi spends a lot of time in his studio and Hoshi will just often be there too, they're also gym buddies, Hoshi is always making sure Woozi gets the recognition he deserves too, and if Woozi is going to indulge in anyones jokes or bits the most it'll be Hoshi's. They're super close and so in interviews you'll often see them talking very sincere about one another. They're both born in '96 and then Vernon and Seungkwan are both born in '98 and I sometimes think being of the same age like that also helps them click the way they do, which in turn creates some of the closest possible friendships. The group as a whole are super close but there's always pairings or even trios that have, I guess, a different sort of closeness and it's all very lovely.
Even in English interviews, they behave as usual, do not force themselves into using English at all, just say whatever they wanna with their range of vocabulary and comfortably speak Korean. Hoshi and Won Woo are now taking an English course diligently and show some improvements while Seung Kwan, Dino and Min Gyu all display great potentials in their pronunciations. So I'm really looking forward to the upcoming global interviews with their confidence.
Seungkwan, a childish one and Vernon, the mature one. They are actually a good combination and everyone in caratland teasing them as a lovely couple. 😆🤣
I'm so impressed that everything you've saying about SVT boys is so spot on! Even if you know them for not so long, I wouldn't think that way. It seems like you stan them for a year 😇👀 I love your videos!
Woozi is indeed in the quieter side, but when he needs to speak, he will, he doesnt like to be pressured to entertain or to talk but if he's expected to, he speaks very well. In short, he speaks when it's necessary (of course I meant only in variety shows or interviews)
i really like your observations and comments on seventeen, I couldn't afford to support on patreon rn so i really appreciate the short versions being uploaded on youtube. thank you!
Similar to you, when I was getting to know Seventeen, the quieter members took me quite a bit longer to get to know (seems obvious but some gravitate towards quieter members and bias them right away). I think your assessment of Seungkwan and Hoshi is spot on. Hoshi CAN be loud. But when you see him not "in the spotlight" or high energy moments, he is very calm, he listens to the other members and offers words of support/affirmations when needed. And he is very sincere indeed when speaking to the other members, or about their bonds/relationships. Seungkwan dearly adores his members. He loves the attention 100% lol But also, I wouldn't say he's shameless about his jokes and comedic skills. Although maybe that's a tiiiiiny bit apart of his "character". He isn't a variety king for nothing. Most of what you see is him playing around, making jokes, being made fun of by the members. But he's really close to his fellow maknaes and I think this is just his personality. If you see REALLY early pre-debut clips (like almost 10 years ago), he is EXACTLY like this, even back then 😂 Jun is kind of, what you see is what you get. Once you see more of him, you'll see he's a pretty laid back guy. There's also the language barrier, as he's a Chinese member. He has mentioned this has been a barrier in the past. He can get rather excited at times though. Mingyu always seems ready to hype the other members. He's positive and usually lets others have the spotlight. He CAN be loud but it's not usually really on purpose lol (like yelling to get attention or something) Woozi. Again, you are spot on. He's comfortable in himself. And as much as we have an idea of how idols "normally" act, Woozi just rejects most of that and does what he's comfortable with. I love that about him. He's here for the music, the members, & fans and he makes that very clear.
Damn you always get it right! Yes Jun IS a prankster! And he also could easily get pranked haha. Yes woozi IS very confident in himself and comfortable with his own image!
You will know them better in seventeens “going seventeen “ logic night ep its so fun to see the way they think and represent their thoughts in the show
Hey, Max! I just watched a video Glamour made where they test Seventeen's friendship. They divided them in two groups, so you can see them more individually. Hope this helps! Thanks for continuing with your Seventeen reactions, I'm really enjoying them!
i love these seventeen videos!!! your commentary is really accurate especially seeing how you have only seen them speak a couple of times :O great video!!
i think seungkwan gives off the vibe of the person who uses humor to cover vulnerabilities but i don't think that's true. like you said at the end of the video, he really just likes making people laugh and will even embarrass himself in order to make someone else smile. he's the "variety show king" of the group and his schedule is always packed making guests appearances on other shows. he's got such a good energy that comes off extremely genuine which makes everyone so drawn to him!
also like other people have mentioned, vernon and seungkwan may seem like opposites but time and time again they are shown to have the exact same personality. maybe in going seventeen you can see some of their interactions and explain because i still don't understand how two people are so different yet similar 😭
I'm here again haha I loved when un the question "Who is the most looking?" You said that Seungkwan he would choose himself 😂 I was like "Who do you know?" THAT'S VERY SEUNGKWAN STYLE
If you want to see Seungkwan very vulnerable and emotional you should watch his and Dino's Part in the Program Seventeen in the Soop. They are on vacation in the woods at that program and do all kind of stuff in their free time. And while they are sitting around the fire Seungkwan and Chan talk about deep stuff. But the whole show gives you a better view on their interest and who spends time with who when they have their own time without planned schedules
@@GenF91 yes! I forgot who said it or where it was shown but it’s said a couple of times , it may have been said on the recent know yourself on going seventeen 2022
Oh! And I also just wanted to mention how Hoshi often claims he is an introvert. He's also said before how his stage persona of Hoshi and himself as Soonyoung are different people. The rest of the group often tease him saying he's not an introvert because, especially in content, he's very outgoing and you'd assume he's an extrovert, but Hoshi has said multiple times in his daily life he's quite shy and introverted, and a member, S.Coups has said before something charming about Hoshi is how introverted he actually is in daily life. I find that quite interesting how he seems to know how to sort of turn on this side to him for work and you'd never even think in his daily life he's the complete opposite.
Seungkwan doesn't like being called a comedian too much because he wants to be recognized as an idol instead of some funny guy. He's said quite a lot that worries about how he comes off since he's the one that always represents Seventeen, usually alone, on different entertainment programs. He's very perceptive and sensitive, which is why you see him glancing around a lot trying to gauge reactions. also about him choosing himself for the best looking member: for a long time he was always told that he was the ugliest member or that he needed to lose weight by the staff at their company and "fans" so he really struggled with his image. the other guys continuously complimenting him on his looks these past few years and him picking himself really just shows me how far he's come since those early days rather than him just being cocky
maybe you can watch the going seventeen (their self produced content) ep where they had personality tests. it may provide more perspective on their communication patterns/motivations 🙂
More Seventeen content coming soon :)
You should check them in a more playful korean vid, like “Dingo mafia dance”, because here they are still kind of reserved/calm as this is for a foreign media outlet.
Yay can't wait. Thank you Max!
Thank you for your reactions to Seventeen
Yes! Waiting for it! Seventeen is super funny and talented group! 😁
Thank you!
the boys have a show called going seventeen and there's a recent episode about personality test it would be really cool if you reacted to some episode of going seventeen because they get more comfortable so their personality comes through more clearly in my opinion. btw I loved the react, I almost screamed when I saw the notification
Just a warning though it’s quite hard to follow along sometimes😭but tbh the mbti episode is probably the best for keeping up as they are not being AS chaotic
It’s really funny how you mentioned that Vernon gives you a sense of calm when you talk to him cause him and Seungkwan are actually really close and they’re polar opposites (even though they allegedly have the same MBTI 😂) so it’s really fun to watch the two of the interact cause you never would expect two people who are that different when it comes to energy levels to be that close but they balance each other out perfectly I suppose - Vernon even said just seeing Seungkwan makes him happy
Haha I agree -- they seem SO different!
Vernon retook the test a while back, so he doesn't have the same mbti as Seungkwan anymore
@@magdaibrahim3195 they still do in their recent mbti episode in going seventeen
@@dokyeomimie In the recent episode, the members took the test for their own members not for themselves so the results that they got, were what mbti they seem from other's perspective and not their true mbti.
@@magdaibrahim3195 but on the other test that they took which is much more accurate they still came out to have the same personality.
Vernon and Seungkwan balance each other out perfectly, the fact that they’re the only 98’ liners makes perfect sense1
Seungkwan, yea he's always looking around, he's the moodmaker of svt, the variety leader, he knows what and what not to do in variety shows and always do what he can to bring more entertainment and promote his members and groups, my man is honestly so thoughtful and hardworking
Your analysis that Seventeen members play into each other’s jokes is actually quite accurate.
All of the members have quite the accurate sense of humour, as in what would work or what wouldn’t in terms of making others laugh (whether that’s themselves or others), along with the type of reactions to give to make things funny.
In Korean variety shows, they often call it “sense” as in a sense for humour and just being overall sensible in making decisions that will suit the direction of a show. Of course, sensible may mean standing fully clothed under a shower while holding up an umbrella. But it is this sensibility in knowing what to do to incite laughs and reactions that is very precious in variety shows.
Seungkwan for example, is very well-received by production crews for his “variety sense” as he really makes it easy for the production crew to edit clips and fill up a whole episode with content, because the things he does are really suitable to be aired on tv. Like using palm leaves props to emulate the MV of a different artist.
Seventeen also uses the term “receive”, “airtime/screen time/footage” and “content” a lot. They acknowledge that “being funny” often requires teamwork, and a kind of “give and receive” from the joker and the jokee. So for example, if someone tries to make a joke, and it doesn’t land, or the members didn’t make a good reaction, the joker would often jokingly say things like, “why didn’t you receive [my joke]?” To which the members would react accordingly, either by not reacting at all to make it funnier, or reacting exaggeratedly and thus poking fun at each other. And whatever they do, that footage could now be “saved/rescued” instead of being shelved, since they were able to turn an unfunny situation funny. This is also another aspect of “sense” that’s also important.
And another thing that the members are good at is estimating “airtime/screentime/footage” for different persons. If for example, they noticed that someone might not have gotten enough screentime to be aired, they would often step back and prompt the other person to say some words or ask them to join in on some thing to let them “secure some footage”. That’s also why Seventeen members are often well-received by production crews and other celebrities. They are really keen on team play and just helping each other out.
While “content” is basically creating content to be aired. Jeonghan for example, is very good at suddenly creating absurd situations or some kind of games which would a) create additional content and b) allows himself (and by extension others) to secure footage. But he’s often a minimalist kind of guy, so when he thinks he’s secured enough footage, he would sometimes just fade into the back and help the other members get their footage.
Different members also have different sense of humours. Seungkwan for example is very well-received in variety shows because he can often make something funny on his own. As in he sometimes doesn’t really need a “give and receive” technique to make things funny. Like his deadpan expression when talking about Jun in this video. Just that itself is funny.
While others like DK, often does body gags. Where his humour speaks more towards body language and body action. And Dino for example, is very well suited to skits, like SNL type of stuff. And Vernon is just funny because he does a lot of things his own way and doesn’t have as high of a “variety sense” than the other members.
Nice! You explained very well!
This analysis gives me life. Yes yes yes.
this is actually so true, it’s amazing how well you’ve put everything into words
This analysis is everything
wow...this makes me appreciate svt in a new way
Woozi is a quiet person but with seventeen he became talkative so people always misunderstood that he is a talkative person (especially in going seventeen). But he is a good speaker and you can see it in going seventeen later on😁
Seungkwan is actually an emotional person once he gets serious. He cries easily
i love watching max also enjoy people that i enjoy. even with way less context he still manages to put into words what makes different individuals charismatic in various ways
Thanks Danielle, that's nice of you to say :) I'm happy you get to watch with me
It's really interesting to see your comments about Seungkwan being very aware of his surroundings and others peoples! Especially because, being a carat I know that he's a very good entertainer, but seeing you point specifics topics and behaviour is kinda fascinating. Thank you for your reaction!
Mingyu is one of the youngest members so around many members in this group, he respectfully is just cute and quiet. Vernon is younger than him but because of the English, theres a subtle change instinctual to the impied hierarchy here. If this were their reality show Going Seventeen versus a more professional interview setting, he's much louder, shows his smarts more, and is much more active and engaging. Mingyu definitely has a smooth attitude but again, you're looking at professional appearances in promotion for a tour or event going on. If you watch Going Seventeen, you really get to see their personalities coming out when the content is just for the fans and them having fun with one another.
I agree, their personality somehow changes depending on the show. Like here, Woozi is like a sincere and serious guy who loves giving compliments, and that's exactly him during serious situations. But if it's in Going Seventeen, a show meant for fun, he likes making fun of people as part of his love language.
Mingyu is quite?? 😅😂😂😂
@@Tttnoma quiet in terms of showing respect
Loving how you immediately picked up on Hoshi and Woozi’s sincerity towards each other 😂
It’s probably because they go way back, almost 10 years if I’m not mistaken. Both of them were one of the earliest trainees and were highly skilled. So there was often a sort of competitiveness and respect towards each other. But both of them are also leaders of Seventeen. Woozi is the leader of the Vocal Unit, and produces the majority of their music. While Hoshi is the leader of the Performance Unit and often works with other choreographer teams to make the choreography for the group.
In a way, both of them are kind of the same and have been through the same kind of hardships of being a leader and incharge of the group’s creative processes. Woozi for example always says that the members and in particular, Hoshi, are the reason why he always feel assured when creating Seventeen’s music because they’re the ones that likes his music the most.
It’s also always interesting to see the dynamics between them two. Because Hoshi is often very outgoing in his expression of love and very smiley I would say. While Woozi’s personality is often quite “tsundere”, as in “cold on the outside and warm on the inside”. So it’s always a treat to be able to see him accept praises and give praises back.
Hoshi also has his what we like to call “tiger agenda”. He’s very into tigers these past couple of years. And it has slowly grown from having tiger phonecases and outfits to sometimes calling himself Tiger, like in his introduction. He’s also coined the phrase “Horanghae”, which is a mixture of Hoshi + Saranghae (I Love You). However, Horang also means “tiger” in Korean so he’s very much leaning into tigers right now. And Woozi and The8 are often called the “anti-Horanghae squad” who often tries to get Hoshi back to reality and “become a person” instead of being a “tiger”. So it’s also very endearing to see Woozi (and The8) sometimes indulging Hoshi and calling him “Tiger” or saying Horanghae to him to make him smile or happy. Like on Hoshi’s birthday, or to get his attention.
yes my favourite dynamic in seventeen is hoshi woozi combo !!!
One video that came out a few days ago is them taking the friendship test, which shows even more of their personalities. So If you don't have anything prepared already, I would recommend you check out that one as well at some point.
i was just about to comment that! that video is seriously so good! lol
They are also split up so they’ll be easier to analyse👍
4:10 You're so right about Seungkwan I really do feel like making jokes and teasing the members is one of his many ways of showing love to them. And also he said once that Jun is in fact one of his favorite members🤣
10:30 it's so intersting that you compared Vernon and Seungkwan specifically, being they are the same age! ('98 liners
You are right, Seungkwan shows his love for his members by fighting with them (especially with Dino and Mingyu). It's one way he shows that he is present and he listens to them. With Vernon, Seungkwan always nags because Vernon is the one who understands and tolerates him the most. Interestingly, it seems that Seungkwan has a soft spot for Wonwoo and often shows his appreciation and love for Wonwoo by back hugging him. I don't think I ever see Seungkwan tries to fight Wownoo (and he fights everyone lol)
4:11 That’s so spot on, omg. Seungkwan adores Jun so much, the affection he gives Jun makes him seem like he’s the older one among the two 😆🤍
8:17 This part too! The members (Seungkwan especially) often say Woozi doesn’t say stuff he doesn’t mean. That’s why they value his compliments so much because they know he’s sincere about them.
this ended up becoming a seungkwan analysis hahah 😂💕
9:10 Yes! I think you put it in better words than I did. You can see his “variety senses” working and making decisions in his head as to how to make this situation more humorous. I guess in a way you could also say that he’s a very responsible person. Always taking care of others and the group especially.
I really think he’s a very intelligent person, particularly in terms of EQ. Because being able to uphold that “variety sense” really takes a lot of mind power.
The members also take notice of his heightened sense of responsibility and often says to him to relax and “turn off” his variety sense, and let the rest takes care of stuff.
I think In The Soop may show Seungkwan being more present and letting go of his variety persona. Since the show is more based on relaxation. But I think it is quite rare to see him fully shed out of this persona, since it is such an integral part of himself.
actually seungkwan often felt stressed in interviews or variety shows bc he always think he need to bring the tension/energy up (especially if he did it with other members bc he tend to monitoring them to also be funny and active) thats why you realized how he always reading the room. in the more natural setting with ppl he is close to and comfortable being around (which will you see if you started watching going seventeen) he become more quiet. people who get to know seventeen from interviews or their musics mostly would be shocked when they watch going seventeen lol.
thanks for the reaction! seungkwan is my bias and i love how you found his character/personality interesting in a good way :D
If you want to check out an interview with smaller groups, I really recommend checking out their interview with FO Squad! There were only 4 of them (Vernon, Joshua, Mingyu and Seungkwan) but they really seemed comfortable in that interview.
And although there were the 2 English
speakers there, Mingyu and Seungkwan really didn’t falter behind in terms of interactiveness with the hosts. In fact, I think them two actually stole the show away 😂
THAT’S MY FAVORITE SEVENTEEN INTERVIEW😭 Fo Squad interviews in general are hilarious(I would also like to recommend their interview with P1Harmony)
Your analysis on this small group of svt is very spot on! I'm really impressed the way you can tell their personalities just observing the way they communicated with each other. You're right, Woozi is a quiet member but when he talks about his feelings especially about making music to his members and fans, you can feel his sincerity, love and passion about it. Same goes when he writes a long heartwarming letters/posts everytime they celebrate anniversaries with fans and when they won an award. Meanwhile for Jun, you definitely got it right about him being a quiet member but a prankster. It's really him 😂. You will get to see that side of him a lot in Going Seventeen. Last but not least, thank you for reacting to seventeen. I'm looking forward for your next analysis of them 😊
it’s cool how much you can tell about their personalities with short videos like these, i’ve seen a lot of their content and you got all of their personalities right. as other people have mentioned they have a variety show called going seventeen, hopefully you can react to it soon :)
A great opportunity to see a more vulnerable side of Seungkwan is when he appeared on Lee Youngji's show Not Much Prepared. Hoshi also appeared on a seperate episodes and they both got really vulnerable and talked about their concerns. It was really interesting to watch Seungkwan and Youngji interact as they are close friends.
Putting together "Vernon" and "sense of calm" is... So true. He is just naturally a super chill person, and has a very relaxed, laid back attitude all the time. He's also known for sometimes getting lost in his own head and forgetting his surroundings
seungkwan an extrovert person but he really shy in person , most people who want to be close with surprised by his true personality because it’s different from what he shows in front of the camera, yes he likes teasing but seventeen members said that his teasing just for someone he love, he maybe seems like really not in a good term with dino but they really close with each other, they said that new staff always ask them if they’re okay and worried if they really fight with each other but nothing to worry
So cool to see you get so much correct about them! I'd recommend watching a Korean interview at this point to see how they all interact without the pressure of speaking in English and the barrier of translation. I like the Esquire hip-hop team interview, Dingo Left&Right Mafia Dance, or the first 10 minutes of the Seventeen 5th Anniversary Special Video, where they plan out a skit and act as each other. Another good choice is "SVT Jaejae combo that surpasses the combination which never gets quiet" by MMTG channel.
Mingyu is very into giving the other more quiet members time to speak! He could be doing that in parts of this video.
I like how you discussed Jun-Seungkwan’s dynamic at around 4:00. You’re pretty on point on that too because aside from probably Vernon, Seungkwan has oftentimes seen having the softest spots for Jun. Like he realy really adores Jun and has always been seen complimenting Jun. I enjoyed the discussion. Thank you!
Woozi and Hoshi are 2 of the 3 leaders of SEVENTEEN. That may be a factor why their communication style and the way they present themselves give off a certain depth, sincerity and also confidence. The others will naturally listen and respect them along with joking around them.
Omg!! You nailed it about Seungkwan act like that means he likes that person. He totally adores Jun!
literally screamed as soon as i got this notif!!! EXCITED TO WATCH THIS
I can’t wait for you to dive into their show ‘Going Seventeen’ because you can see them in their most comfortable environment and all of their personalities really shine there
There is an episode of Knowing Bros with Seventeen (EP.252) that is really good, it's really long, but you can see a lot of their personalities, and in the beginning of the episode they also are being introduced to the audience, so they give each member a little bit of time to shine and talk individually as they interview one by one
There are a lot of going seventeen videos that focus on 'improv' and random acting skit things that I think would be funny to react to for "communication purposes". Going company or seventeen talent show would be funny ones. Or Seungkwan's past life destiny for some more organized chaos.
Yess thank you for appreciating and watching more Seventeen
I know what you said about Seungkwan is how most people see him at first, esp through these types of interview, but I see him mostly as a really sweet guy (physical affection is how he shows love, even above how much he likes teasing), he's a little shy despite being extroverted (soobin from txt's words, and he's talked about going on long walks alone at night just to think) and he's actually EXTREMELY self conscious. According to the members he's the one who worked the hardest trying to get their names out there (calling people directly to get them on tv for example) and i think he's just very aware of what people like to see which makes him very popular in korea but he feels the pressure a lot. Maybe he comes of a little off in english interviews bc he's mostly accustomed to korean sense of humor which is different from what americans like from celebrities usually
You are so good at these analysis type videos! No fake psychology terms justa real reaction, I love it
I am a strong believer in simplifying ideas :) thanks for the comment !
i've really been enjoying your seventeen reactions so far, it's definitely interesting to hear your analyses and how accurate they are! if you want another one of these shorter interview type videos to watch, i recommend "seventeen take a friendship test" on glamour, it just came out a couple days ago! but it would also be great if you check out going seventeen as others have suggested, looking forward to part 2 of this ^^
Honestly, to me Seventeen has the most unique and interesting dynamic of all the groups in kpop. I saw that nowhere else to be this close, loving, chaotic (to make a good show) but also extremely organized. The way I explain it is "they are their own mini-society". They know themselves so well that they are like a machine with every components working perfectly together. When they arrive somewhere, instead of playing to assign the rooms randomly like I saw with other groups, they sit down and discust who is gonna sleep where based on the needs of each individuals (and they do respects each needs strictly). It is for real VERY impressive to me to see how many they are but how united they also are. And that's why they are so special in my opinion. I'm so fascinated by them and I think it shows, sorry 😆
외국인 리액션 유튜버 중에 제일 전문적+꼼꼼하신 듯.. 원래 리액션 영상은 항상 스쳐지나가기만 했는데 이번엔 구독 눌렀음!
i love woozi and hoshi's relationship, they've been friends a very long time and they make fun of each other a lot but they often genuinely compliment each other like in this video and you can tell they really mean it, its so sweet
so glad you're diving into seventeen just as I am getting into them! makes it so much fun!
Yes, Vernon is extremely laid-back. If you watch one of the latest eps of Going Seventeen called Know Thyself (#1 and #2) you can have a glimpse of their personality and how they see each other.
Seungkwan loves Jun sooo much! HE says here that Jun makes unfunny jokes but has repeatedly said in other occasions that he is the funniest member.
Hoshi and Woozi spend a lot of time together. They usually work out together, and while Woozi spends most of his day in the studio producing, Hoshi constantly visits and ask Woozi to teach him about producing and using professional softwares.
Also, SCoups, Woozi and Hoshi are each leader of a subunit, S.Coups also being SVT's general leader, so they sometimes show this side of taking care of the other members and actively listening and giving them space.
Really appreciate the video
Mingyu does like to be in the spotlight but he’s not alway forcing it, sometimes he just likes reacting to the members. Also seungkwan and him are an interesting duo, they’re a variety show favourite, the two of them are often paired up because their dynamic is really Tom and Jerry like.
Seungkwan would tease Mingyu for breathing
You description of seungkwan is so accurate, he loves making people laugh and his love language is teasing people, i swear he doesnt let anyone breath cause he tease every person existence, he is a whole character in korea variety shows... i've been fan of seventeen since 4 years ago and the dynamic of these group is one of my favorites...Btw nice video!!! I like how you point the little details ✌😊
Actually the part here where Seungkwan insists he’s not funny is because - I’m sure you’ve seen in the other comments here - of how he’s perceived as the “variety show king”. He’s so funny and so good at variety shows that people would associate him with that first before they realize that oh he’s actually a singer and part of Seventeen. That’s why you’ll find him saying things like “I’m not a comedian” or “I’m not funny”.
A good example of this is his cover of a song called “Wifi” which actually started as a gag, something he did in a variety show for laughs, the way he was able to mimic an intermittent internet connection in the chorus. But then he actually did post a full cover of the song where he was able to showcase his vocal skills (i feel as a way to show that no he’s not a comedian, he’s a singer haha).
It’s so amazing getting to watch how you assess their interactions because it’s so spot on. I can’t wait for you to fall deeper into the rabbit hole of seventeen, I promise you won’t regret it 😂🥹 and yes to your patreon!!
Awesome :)) thank you so much!
yaayy another seventeen's video. you always have a spot on comments and I learned a lot from your videos
Awesome! Thank you for watching !
in terms of Going Seventeen, i really encourage you to check out the TTT series! because its just them going and having fun and being themselves, and i think thatd be really cool for you to see and react to first before the other ones.
They also have a documentary series and each episode is about each member in which you can see a more serious side of them (it’s on RUclips and each episode is like 10 minutes long)
One of the members Minghao, you may know him better as The8 said on a show that sometimes he feels sorry to (for) Seungkwan because he's the best at variety (he's technically a celebrity in Korea outside of seventeen because of his variety appearances) so he may feel burdened to put on this extra persona. (In the context of the show I'm not certain certain whether The8 said it jokingly or not. I feel like it was half joke half sincere). So this may play into Seungkwan always paying attention to the atmosphere so he can decide on what to do next. But the members have said that he's very attentive naturally so I guess everything intertwines.
Just like how Vernon and Seungkwan are extremely close, it's the same with Hoshi and Woozi. They're rarely apart too, Woozi spends a lot of time in his studio and Hoshi will just often be there too, they're also gym buddies, Hoshi is always making sure Woozi gets the recognition he deserves too, and if Woozi is going to indulge in anyones jokes or bits the most it'll be Hoshi's. They're super close and so in interviews you'll often see them talking very sincere about one another. They're both born in '96 and then Vernon and Seungkwan are both born in '98 and I sometimes think being of the same age like that also helps them click the way they do, which in turn creates some of the closest possible friendships. The group as a whole are super close but there's always pairings or even trios that have, I guess, a different sort of closeness and it's all very lovely.
Even in English interviews, they behave as usual, do not force themselves into using English at all, just say whatever they wanna with their range of vocabulary and comfortably speak Korean. Hoshi and Won Woo are now taking an English course diligently and show some improvements while Seung Kwan, Dino and Min Gyu all display great potentials in their pronunciations. So I'm really looking forward to the upcoming global interviews with their confidence.
Seungkwan, a childish one and Vernon, the mature one. They are actually a good combination and everyone in caratland teasing them as a lovely couple. 😆🤣
they have a show in youtube with english subtitles in it! it’s called going seventeen, I think they show more of the personality’s there
I'm so impressed that everything you've saying about SVT boys is so spot on! Even if you know them for not so long, I wouldn't think that way. It seems like you stan them for a year 😇👀
I love your videos!
You really barely see seungkwan in a serious mode tho'.🤣 But yeah, i love how serious he is when he dance with dino.
Going seventeen is chaotic.. even their audio director complains. I think the mbti episode is the calmest one.
Please keep doing these videos they're so interesting!
Loving your Seventeen videos!! 😄 Such an interesting and different perspective on my fav group 👏💎
Woozi is indeed in the quieter side, but when he needs to speak, he will, he doesnt like to be pressured to entertain or to talk but if he's expected to, he speaks very well. In short, he speaks when it's necessary (of course I meant only in variety shows or interviews)
i really like your observations and comments on seventeen, I couldn't afford to support on patreon rn so i really appreciate the short versions being uploaded on youtube. thank you!
Similar to you, when I was getting to know Seventeen, the quieter members took me quite a bit longer to get to know (seems obvious but some gravitate towards quieter members and bias them right away).
I think your assessment of Seungkwan and Hoshi is spot on.
Hoshi CAN be loud. But when you see him not "in the spotlight" or high energy moments, he is very calm, he listens to the other members and offers words of support/affirmations when needed. And he is very sincere indeed when speaking to the other members, or about their bonds/relationships.
Seungkwan dearly adores his members. He loves the attention 100% lol
But also, I wouldn't say he's shameless about his jokes and comedic skills. Although maybe that's a tiiiiiny bit apart of his "character". He isn't a variety king for nothing.
Most of what you see is him playing around, making jokes, being made fun of by the members. But he's really close to his fellow maknaes and I think this is just his personality. If you see REALLY early pre-debut clips (like almost 10 years ago), he is EXACTLY like this, even back then 😂
Jun is kind of, what you see is what you get. Once you see more of him, you'll see he's a pretty laid back guy. There's also the language barrier, as he's a Chinese member. He has mentioned this has been a barrier in the past. He can get rather excited at times though.
Mingyu always seems ready to hype the other members. He's positive and usually lets others have the spotlight. He CAN be loud but it's not usually really on purpose lol (like yelling to get attention or something)
Woozi. Again, you are spot on. He's comfortable in himself. And as much as we have an idea of how idols "normally" act, Woozi just rejects most of that and does what he's comfortable with. I love that about him. He's here for the music, the members, & fans and he makes that very clear.
i love woozi you described him so perfectly
Damn you always get it right! Yes Jun IS a prankster! And he also could easily get pranked haha. Yes woozi IS very confident in himself and comfortable with his own image!
Can't wait for part 2, love your reactions Max
You will know them better in seventeens “going seventeen “ logic night ep its so fun to see the way they think and represent their thoughts in the show
Thank you so much for reaction! Im excited to the next one!
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I really love how u explain, its so smart and good to listen
Yeyyy can't wait for part two. btw hoshi always says that he's introverted 😂
This group always made my day 🤣 love them so much… I don’t know why all the hybe labels artists funny and savage but talented and cool 😎 🔥💫
Hey, Max! I just watched a video Glamour made where they test Seventeen's friendship. They divided them in two groups, so you can see them more individually. Hope this helps! Thanks for continuing with your Seventeen reactions, I'm really enjoying them!
Thanks for the recco!
yey you'll check out their variety!!!
i love these seventeen videos!!! your commentary is really accurate especially seeing how you have only seen them speak a couple of times :O great video!!
the "19 going 40" really gets me hahahaha
seungkwan is an interesting character. I love him. I love all of them.
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Thank you for making this video! You should watch the recent friendship test video they just did with glamour
I've been waiting for this, thank you so much.
I'll never get enough Seventeen videos they're like the funniest group 🥳🥳
if you want to see the more serious side of seungkwan i would recommend watching Svt in the soop!
thank you for reacting to seventeen ☺️ I enjoy these videos so much!! hope you will react to more seventeen videos!!
i think seungkwan gives off the vibe of the person who uses humor to cover vulnerabilities but i don't think that's true. like you said at the end of the video, he really just likes making people laugh and will even embarrass himself in order to make someone else smile. he's the "variety show king" of the group and his schedule is always packed making guests appearances on other shows. he's got such a good energy that comes off extremely genuine which makes everyone so drawn to him!
also like other people have mentioned, vernon and seungkwan may seem like opposites but time and time again they are shown to have the exact same personality. maybe in going seventeen you can see some of their interactions and explain because i still don't understand how two people are so different yet similar 😭
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I'm here again haha I loved when un the question "Who is the most looking?" You said that Seungkwan he would choose himself 😂 I was like "Who do you know?" THAT'S VERY SEUNGKWAN STYLE
If you want to see Seungkwan very vulnerable and emotional you should watch his and Dino's Part in the Program Seventeen in the Soop. They are on vacation in the woods at that program and do all kind of stuff in their free time. And while they are sitting around the fire Seungkwan and Chan talk about deep stuff. But the whole show gives you a better view on their interest and who spends time with who when they have their own time without planned schedules
i think you can see a deeper and more serious side of seungkwan in his episode of seventeen's hit the road documentary (ep 7)
It’s been said that mingyu is very talkative but has been told to keep it to a minimum which is funny but also sad in a way
Oh wow really?
@@GenF91 yes! I forgot who said it or where it was shown but it’s said a couple of times , it may have been said on the recent know yourself on going seventeen 2022
If amingyu speaks when he's next to kwan they wilk be fighting there😂
I can't wait for you reaction o going seventeen
Wow, impressive, I like the way you analyze them
Looking forward to more seventeen reactions 💖
I think you'll get a good insight into seungkwans personality in his solo interview with lee youngji! Definitely check that out ;)
Oh! And I also just wanted to mention how Hoshi often claims he is an introvert. He's also said before how his stage persona of Hoshi and himself as Soonyoung are different people. The rest of the group often tease him saying he's not an introvert because, especially in content, he's very outgoing and you'd assume he's an extrovert, but Hoshi has said multiple times in his daily life he's quite shy and introverted, and a member, S.Coups has said before something charming about Hoshi is how introverted he actually is in daily life. I find that quite interesting how he seems to know how to sort of turn on this side to him for work and you'd never even think in his daily life he's the complete opposite.
Seungkwan and Hoshi are one of the most sociable and funny in Svt. Please react to ITZY next! 🙏💗
Vernon 19 going on 40. That encapsulates him so well 😂
Seungkwan doesn't like being called a comedian too much because he wants to be recognized as an idol instead of some funny guy. He's said quite a lot that worries about how he comes off since he's the one that always represents Seventeen, usually alone, on different entertainment programs. He's very perceptive and sensitive, which is why you see him glancing around a lot trying to gauge reactions.
also about him choosing himself for the best looking member: for a long time he was always told that he was the ugliest member or that he needed to lose weight by the staff at their company and "fans" so he really struggled with his image. the other guys continuously complimenting him on his looks these past few years and him picking himself really just shows me how far he's come since those early days rather than him just being cocky
maybe you can watch the going seventeen (their self produced content) ep where they had personality tests. it may provide more perspective on their communication patterns/motivations 🙂