Hunter has contempt for Kody. The same Hunter who visited and helped with Ysabel's rehabilitation? The same Hunter who took on the father role for his little sister when she had serious surgery? The same Hunter who always visits family for holidays and helps the familial bond? Hunter does everything you SHOULD Kody.
Exactly I don’t understand why nobody sees that but a very few people she made their dad look like some kind of demon and didn’t allow her children to see their father talk about double standard
@@jgator6694 for children to see their moms being neglected and unloved is traumatic. He can’t be spending time with his children when he’s always with Robin.
@@robinlove4080The *fight* yes, that was scripted…butt I honestly believe he DOES use a phrase like “those people” ALL the time..pure Kody talk. He’s horrible!
Let's not forget that Robyn called the boys "unsafe" and refused to invite them for Christmas last season. She's faking so much- she doesn't give a crap about any kid she didn't give birth to. Feeble attempt to rehab Robyn for the masses. Not buying it- but that's just my opinion.
That was a horrible performance for the cameras. She was stumbling over her words, couldn't get her lines straight. The only one gullible enough to fall for that is Kody
Redemption on her part. I hope after her 2 weeks with the twins maybe she had a moment. He doesn’t know anything that’s going on in family bc they don’t call him. It’s always everyone else’s fault. It’s bc he cannot have an adult conversation. He cannot keep up with their intellect. He knows it. He’ll just get frustrated and angry bc it won’t go his way. He’ll have to own up.
“Love” as it exists in normal relationships isn’t even a factor in polygamy, but he acts like it’s somehow his due. Not defending the perverted practice, but it illustrates his lack of understanding when he blundered into it. He is an idiot.
This idiot doesn’t deserve kids. A wise man once told me that just because they gave birth to you, it doesn’t mean you have to like them. Those words were so freeing in my life and I have never regretted kicking family to the curb if they are deserving. Robyn is NOT the voice of reason and never will be. She did to her kids father, what Kody’s children are doing to him. So nauseating even listening to this nonsense.
I think What Robin is fighting for is more kids of Janelle and Christine to actively participate in the show. The family left Cody, Robyn and their 5 kids are sooooo protected and boring.
That awful vernacular when discussing his own children denotes to me that , sadly he never had a bond with them in the first place. He basically just used the OG3 as intermediaries with his children!
Kody and Robyn are two peas in a pod. She also did the same thing with her oldest kids bio father. She said he begged and begged her to sleep with him and she insinuated that he raped her. They bring out the worst in each other. They're both narcissists.
Ever since he hooked up with sobbin she quickly p***y whipped him to heel ,, she is all he cares about ,, he seems to think they should chase him and kiss his butt , Robin should watch him around her daughters cause he's got them in his sights that's my opinion
I absolutely agree. 👍 She thinks in order to keep the money rolling in, having the communication with the OGS and their children is very important. Robyn knows that they’re at the tail-end of the show and the possibility of the other women getting their own show is imminent.👍
No I’m not buying this. It’s just a way to try to get sympathy for their situation. Robyn has no heart and hasn’t really cared about anyone but herself. Robyn’s not used to getting the truth thrown at her and she’s not liking the fact that all the kids are letting them know that they are not small anymore and they can think for themselves and they have their own opinions. Now that the majority of the kids are grown, they’re not afraid to use their voices and tell him exactly how they feel and Robbinson used to that. Cody, on the other hand he still doesn’t see the fact that he is to blame for his actions of being an absence father. And he doesn’t like that he doesn’t like being told that he was a failure as a father. These kids are all big enough now they don’t have to watch what they say or anything they’re all adults. They’re all successful adults two and I’ve done it without him and they’re calling him out on it. For Robin she doesn’t understand her part in all of this if you truly wanted those kids to have any type of relationship, she would not have told Logan or mykelti that they wanted no communication during that Christmas fiasco. That was all Robin’s doing she interfered with she should know she try to control the narrative which she was wrong and she tried to tell a bunch of adults how she was how she wanted things done and they retaliated and said no, she was making demands, and they were saying no. So Robin took it upon herself to tell all of them we want nothing to do with you we don’t want you and how do you expect 13 kids to react they’re not gonna like her very much because she put her nose and where it wasn’t wanted but she’s always done that she doesn’t like getting a taste of a medicine. So yes, there are going to be fractures they’re gonna be downright loose and it’s being hauled out and nobody likes it so when when the things get hot and the truth gets too much to Cody, he takes off he did it with Jenelle. He did it with Christine he told him he didn’t have to be there and he took off never finishing the conversation. Never finding a solution never did nothing so now that it’s her turn to get it. Oh, she don’t like that either , just like when she said seasons ago oh Cody never gets to walk off. When Jenelle and Christine were complaining about every time that they wanted to finish the conversation, Cody would just take off on them Robin Snap back right away and said oh he doesn’t get to do that with me. Robyn said she never gave him the opportunity to just take off that she made him listen to everything she had to say she was very proud of that, so what’s the problem now she can’t keep them home to finish the argument to finish that part of the conversation that’s her turn to experience that she doesn’t like it. Anybody ever thought that these two people were going to be able to go to the happier raptor right off of the sunset without fractures they were kidding themselves these two people have a hard road and there’s a lot of factors to it never one there is no trust in that household. Absolutely not because she lies and he lies. They both lie. Next she has infant child, her children, younger than what they are to keep him a happy man she’s not allowing her children to grow up and face the real world. These kids are gonna really have a hard time adjusting. Next they’re going broke and money is always the number one reason for an argument. Bad feelings, no good sleep irritability all of that. Many problems is is one thing so it’s a lot of stuff happening. It’s coming to the surface and until these two can figure out how to put it all together. Blaming other people isn’t going to help. And the kids they just fed up with their song and dance. They’re tired of his game and they’re fed up with her and they let them know so she sitting here Lyons saying how hard to try to tell him talk to your children because that’s not what she saying when the cameras are not there.
The worst thing he said, with contempt, was that he would not allow "these people" to come between he and his beloved Robin. These people are your CHILDREN! Robin, you better hope your kids don't disagree with him. Leopards don't change their spots. If he can drop them, he can drop yours.
His children didn't cause problems with Robyn. Robyn created those problems herself with her lies. Sure, it finally got to a point where the older ones were saying screw you. We are adults and don't need him as a father figure. They also said most of these problems were created by Robyn and her lies.
Ok, I’ve wanted to say this for a while. When Kody introduced the OG’s he showed the kids of the OG as “Janelle’s kids” and “Christine’s kids” and “Mary’s kid” but Robin’s kids are to Kody, “my tender aged children”. Tell me I’m not the only one that noticed!?!
I thought that had to do with the babies being biologically his, and just being used to telling people who belonged to which mom. On the show he was always having to remind viewers which mom had which kids. He calls Robin's kids "Robin's kids" all the time. Truly should be with Kody, totally right, cause the deal is he spend the most time with the kids when they are young. Christine was the mom for most of the kids, but she didn't want anything to do with Robin when she had her baby. Robin didn't get the support the other wives did, but circumstances were different. Christine should have had Truly go to Robin's, but instead Truly didn't feel comfortable spending the night when they split. Kody didn't want Christine taking Truly far away, because he wanted the time she deserved at her age. It felt like Christine was influencing Truly to take sides from what I saw.
@@bedriddenbeauty301 but didn’t Christine say she was hurt that Robyn wouldn’t let Christine watch Robyn’s kids? Robyn wanted to stay home and have a nanny but Christine wanted to watch them. That was in a group tell all wasn’t it?
Robyn, please, what are your older children's relationship with their bio father? This was a sad attempt to redeem Robyn's reputation😢. Robyn couldn't even muster up real emotions. I call bull
@@CC-us2bhI really hope that’s accurate because Dayton and his 2 sisters need to have a relationship with their Dad. Especially since he’s dealing with cancer.
Robin said he was abusive, and how do people forget biological father signed over his parental rights so Kody could legally adopt her kids. What kind of father does that if he wants his kids at all.
@@BestCoastLifeI agree, I don't understand how easily swayed people are. We have watched her for 18 seasons, we know exactly what kind of person she is.
This fight is staged.. it's staged, it's so Robyn can throw out that the OGs are the ones who are telling the kids that he's the bad guy. She said it twice.
Yes and Robin even said that the kids are being told lies and stories from their moms. He thinks he is being trashed talked left and right, and he is innocent. I think he chooses not to be accountable for his own actions so he is deflecting all his bs on his kids. He is disgusting.
@@jenrae-w7w she tried to villainize the other wives, blaming them for “what they are saying” to the kids. The kids can see for themselves! They don’t need their mothers to tell them that Robyn and Kody are nuts.
I do believe that these "kids" are adults for the most part. They have seen things, like Kody spending the majority of his time with Robyn. They hear things, like Kody disparaging the OG3. They interpret what they have seen and heard and are protecting themselves, their children, and their mothers from these two narcissists.
This episode completely made me sick! Robyn and Cody are clearly trying to change the narrative and it was rehearsed. Robyn and her whining to Cody, begging him to fix things with his kids was absolutely horrific and fake to me. I couldn't watch this damn episode 😞 Gosh I hate TLC reality TV (LOL)
Right?! Like put your feelings and bull shit aside and be there for your kids dude! That’s why they are mad is because he is fully invalidating their feelings and dismissing them.
If my father is constantly saying he didnt love my mother but loves the other woman i am going feel some kind of way about him and that other woman and i will not want to be bothered with either one of them
Madison is a mama bear. Her kids don't even remember him. She also knows about his temper and hos tamtrums, and she doesn't want that around her children. She and her husband are living their lives, and Kody needs to get over it.
Yes, and for Kody to act offended because she doesn’t want a stranger fawning over her children expecting them to adore him is ridiculous. Good for Maddy. Keep your children’s emotional health a priority!
Maddy is such a gem and she is putting her children first, unlike her "father" would do for his children. Her life will be so much better and more calm without having him around her and her family imo. She's def 💯% Janelle's daughter🌞
He even said he is with the wife and family that is loyal to him. "He is tired of feeling betrayed"... blah blah blah poor me...everyone is punishing me... Its getting old. He has not (from what we see) been there for his kids. He only wanted Robin and cared about Robin (and her kids) feelings and he pushed his other kids away. The kids are not at fault, they are hurt. Divorce is between the parents and you don't blame your kids. They could have used a little reassurance along the way that he loved and cared for them. He divorced them all along with their moms. He also acts like he blames his kids for moving away, saying with a smirk, "I have work and a life in Flagstaff" and its unrealistic to see them all the time. He loves to make excuses for his crappy behavior. Don't even get me started on Christine's daughter's back surgery. That was a major operation and he should have dropped everything to be there.
I no right, and the way she says to him "Do mind if we talk about it more, are you in a place where we can talk about it more" Oh please. He just had to be set up to say that its a "trigger point for him..." He is such a narcissist. Even Robin saying she is "so worried about these kids" where was she so upset a few years ago? She even had a sit down with her kids on another episode a couple seasons ago before a holiday and telling them that everyone was treating them badly. They are full of it.
The hypocrisy of Robyn is gob-smacking. What did she do to the father of her older kids? Who lied to her own older kids about their own father? And now Robyn is pretending to be the one who was trying to heal the relationship b/w Kody & his other kids. Hypocrisy much?! I don’t buy any of what Robyn is selling.
As my Gramps always said, and many others from his generation, “You reap what you sow” Enjoy your misery , Robyn & Kody! I only feel bad for these kids. All of the kids.
Thank you, Katie for giving me a recap, because I can't watch it anymore. I don't believe for a second that Robyn is trying to get Kody to have a relationship with his other kids. Her own son lives in a trailer, because he disagreed with Kody's rules. They are trying to give Robyn a makeover, and make us believe she's not actually a horrible person.
Shameless Kody screaming on Maddison when he himself said her Mother begged him to *pick her* with hands raised and tongue out act portraying her as pet 😡😡😡 How horribly toxic is this man to speak so ill about her own daughter 😠
He says “what did I do besides not love their mother and love some body else” as if it’s not a big deal to lie to a person for 25 years that you love them and take vows in front of God and their families that you would love them for all eternity and waste their youth. That’s horrible! And as horrible as it is, it’s still not even the worst thing he’s done by a long shot.
He wasted the og3’s youths. Then he had his mid-life crisis and found his soul mate….and as Meri observed Robyn was 10 years old when she and Kody started their family. Yea…” it’s like we should have all been together from the beginning “. You were ten years old!!!🤢
it’s comical that Robin basically married her bio father figured neglected her as a child, and now Kody is doing the same thing to his other ex wives and their children. Plus she is working extra hard so he doesn’t ignore her kids.
Is Robin R E T A R D E D? What an embarrassment … suddenly she wants to tell Kody to connect with his kids even though she said YEAR after YEAR that she couldn’t force Kody to do anything !?!? Idiots
And she kept her kids away bc she told them the Browns don’t like you. But she knows if the kids go around them, they would be received with open arms. So now she has to continue the lie.
I don’t understand why every episode is Kody whining about the same stuff. He refuses to see that he’s at fault. He also refuses to love anyone who doesn’t agree with him.
I’m convinced neither of them care about any of the family. They are just whining because there is nothing else to talk about and they have to have at least one thing to say to be on film. So this is their one thing.
I was surprised that Robyn said the kids heard lies from the moms. They saw the show where he screamed at J and C both. And they lived this life. And it makes me sick how he treated Savanah last Christmas.
Actually Christine is why they got the show. Her work in Utah, for Polygamous families, is the attention that got them the show. Sobyn never actually cries, no tears.
The kids are better off without him in their lives. Let’s be honest. Thank God for their mothers who gave them the self esteem to know how to draw healthy boundaries and keep his toxicity out of their lives
Isn’t this Kody-Robyn argument after her shutting down the Christmas gift exchange? If she wanted Kody to reach out to his kids, why did she push them away. This (staged) fight is phony!!
Oh really? "these people"?! Seriously Kody you're a real piece of work. I hope nobody else Una lives themselves because of the emotional damage you have done. Unbelievable
Robyn now cares about Kody’s relationship with his kids .. only when cameras are rolling!!! Not buying it. She didn’t care about her own kids relationship with their bio dad! She’s always going to speak out of both sides of her mouth!
They had no idea what was coming when this was filmed. I would NOT say that TLC has favored them in the edits in anyway. it’s hard for me to think that any part of this is trying to make either of them look good lol
@user-bm8xl9mj2z , Flagstaff had a big snowstorm 10 days after Garrison's passing. It's possible that they filmed this then, but I don't know if even Kody is that much of a POS.
@@tracybeehner5305 I agree!!! I feel nada, zero, zilch in terms of empathy for Robyn. I cannot get past Robyn's utter and blatant disdain aka jealousy and lies towards Christine and her blatant using of Janelle's money. She may be manipulated by Kody however, their isolation, co-dependency and manipulations of each other is the boobie prize they both deserve..
In Liebrows world 2+2=6 and Kobaldy will agree because she's so "sensitive & has only done good for the family" (not true, even with her own family. Her kids are, at the very least, emotionally stunted). To little & WAY late for both narcissists! 🤬
Kody YOU have betrayed YOUR children. Whether they’re adults or babies. YOU made this choice not them 🤦♀️. Gosh just watch this show from the beginning and see what you actually said. Write it down and then look at the hot mess that is your life.
He says the kids hate him Because of what the wives told the kids but hmmm kody what about Ariella saying she hates christine .so what have kody and robyn told Ariella hmmm
When is Kody going to get tired of hearing himself whine ??? Nothing about his behavior is worthy of respect. Respect is earned. And he is not earning it.
Never, as he has zero insight & is incapable of owning & making amends for his behavior. Cardinal character trait of narcissists. He has to be the perpetual victim & just can’t move off of that. His kids w/ the OG3 are the adults in the room while Kody is the petulant toddler. Just look at the oldest kid, Hunter, who stepped up long ago in to a dad role because Kody wouldn’t. He was barely an adult himself & going to school & in the military. Hunter is an amazing young man, no thanks to Kody. When Garrison died, who came immediately from Vegas to Flagstaff to be by Janelle’s side. It was never Kody. Hunter had the emotional maturity to hold his mom up thru the immediate aftermath of the death, while Kody bailed than tried to play the grieving father. He’s so gross.
It's like a tornado of emotions it's crazy. One of the things that Gabe said in the preview of next week. He said "Dad keeps Robyn in her Victimhood." Or something to that effect.
Lmao! It was filmed 2yrs ago, K,R & TLC think we're stupid & don't know she's a shopaholic & he's buying "assets" (tacky, ugly prints aka art in their minds). She couldn't wait 3-4 mins for him to come inside to stage their fight? No, when would she get to wear her purple hat & mittens? 😂
I was a precocious 7 year old, the middle child of 3 kids, when I asked my mom 'if the house caught fire and you could only save one of us 3, which one would you save?' She said 'I would save your dad because we can always have more kids'. That was over 50 years ago and I never forgot how insignificant I felt.
They’ve been in touch with a PR person. Rehabilitating Robyn’s image. The truth is she’s an enabler and it’s a very grey space to be. She’s decided to buy into him and glorify him, even when criticizing him she is praising him and enabling him. It’s disgusting… Robyn alienated her children from their father. Robyn allowed Kody to drift apart from his family. She is disgenuine at best here.
You nailed it. She was feeding into his delusion about the moms telling the kids misinformation. And the fact that she says kids need their father made me so mad. She alienated her kids from their dad. Then kept Kody from going to the other homes. The math ain't mathing. Nice try at a redemption arc, but we are smarter than that
It's fake! Kody is trying to make poor Sobin look like a good person, which she is a lying Conniven backstabbing greedy person. So no, I dont believe what the 2 of them are dropping.
She should have said, “Well, we will never be okay as long as you aren’t okay with your kids.” Instead she essentially says, “thanks for prioritizing me.” 😂
I wish Kodywould STOP this rediculous declaration if his love for Robyn!! Why doesn't he stfu!! No on wants to hear him. What an insult to the OG16. especially when he talks about his " family " when he speaks of Robyns kids. He is sick, twisted, heartless, ,insensitive, thoughtless etc... Hard to watch this, I can't understand why TLC allows him to do this....censor him TLC, please
Hunter has contempt for Kody. The same Hunter who visited and helped with Ysabel's rehabilitation? The same Hunter who took on the father role for his little sister when she had serious surgery? The same Hunter who always visits family for holidays and helps the familial bond? Hunter does everything you SHOULD Kody.
Very good points!!!
I so agree!!!
Paedon spends a lot of time with the family too
Robyn didn’t like Hunter because he didn’t jump for joy when she is pregnant with Sol
The mothers and the oldest children raised their siblings.
So if Robin was so upset 15:29 about her dad not being around, why did she take her older children's father away?. This story line is b.s.
People are all kinds of hypocritical like this. She is too.
Exactly!
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Exactly I don’t understand why nobody sees that but a very few people she made their dad look like some kind of demon and didn’t allow her children to see their father talk about double standard
Robyn is on her redemption tour and I’m not buying a ticket for it
@@Lov3Li3s me either
I feel so insulted..we have watched this show for years..how they have treated everyone, spoken about them..we ain't buying their BS!!!!
Me neither
Well said
Nope!
Kody: “what am I guilty of?? Of not loving their mothers?” Well, yeah, Kody. You act like that is not a big deal. It IS a big deal.
Hey! He never said he didn't love janelle 😂
@@jgator6694 for children to see their moms being neglected and unloved is traumatic. He can’t be spending time with his children when he’s always with Robin.
@@LonelyGirl82right? Knowing you were conceived out of religious obligation is awful
Big Dill!
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Or a little pickle.
Why did that dumbass marry women he did t love? Kody is a piece of crap
He refers to his family of 30 years as these people
This is fake drama for the show
@@robinlove4080agree, FAKE,FAKE, FAKE
@robinlove4080 not only for the show, but likely a contrived plot line to make Robin look better.
@@robinlove4080The *fight* yes, that was scripted…butt I honestly believe he DOES use a phrase like “those people” ALL the time..pure Kody talk. He’s horrible!
@@robinlove4080 I agree!! 100%
Let's not forget that Robyn called the boys "unsafe" and refused to invite them for Christmas last season. She's faking so much- she doesn't give a crap about any kid she didn't give birth to. Feeble attempt to rehab Robyn for the masses. Not buying it- but that's just my opinion.
You’re right. Her voice was cracking, but not a tear in sight. “Those kids need you!”. They really don’t!
Exactly!!
That was a horrible performance for the cameras. She was stumbling over her words, couldn't get her lines straight. The only one gullible enough to fall for that is Kody
Redemption on her part. I hope after her 2 weeks with the twins maybe she had a moment. He doesn’t know anything that’s going on in family bc they don’t call him. It’s always everyone else’s fault. It’s bc he cannot have an adult conversation. He cannot keep up with their intellect. He knows it. He’ll just get frustrated and angry bc it won’t go his way. He’ll have to own up.
This fight was so fake. I didn't believe any of it
It’s beyond cruel and unthinkable for Kody to say he never loved his wives. It’s no wonder his kids want nothing to do with him.
Exactly!!!
But then he said he never said that about Janelle lol maddy made that up apparently
“Love” as it exists in normal relationships isn’t even a factor in polygamy, but he acts like it’s somehow his due. Not defending the perverted practice, but it illustrates his lack of understanding when he blundered into it. He is an idiot.
This idiot doesn’t deserve kids. A wise man once told me that just because they gave birth to you, it doesn’t mean you have to like them. Those words were so freeing in my life and I have never regretted kicking family to the curb if they are deserving. Robyn is NOT the voice of reason and never will be. She did to her kids father, what Kody’s children are doing to him. So nauseating even listening to this nonsense.
I can’t stand when he says that! What a jag
Did Kody forget that all Maddie has to do is roll the footage? Did he forget he's being recorded? Ugh!
Sounds like Madison wants her kids to be”Emotionally safe”
Honestly, I would do the same thing as Maddi. He didn’t have time for them but now he does? Why didn’t he reach out?
😅yeah, good one!!❤
And not used as a device for Kody to try to manipulate his way back into a relationship with her.
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😂😂 That’s a real ‘back at yer’ phrase 😂
Robyn is such a hypocrite talking about her own dad ,yet she didn't have a problem taking her kids from their dad . Hypocrite
She also didn't have a problem taking Kody away from his other children. She's destroyed two families.
And why wasn't Robyn fighting for HER kids to have a relationship with their biological father?
Excellent point
@@NineSparrows That Part !
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Great point why isn't she ??
I think What Robin is fighting for is more kids of Janelle and Christine to actively participate in the show. The family left Cody, Robyn and their 5 kids are sooooo protected and boring.
This show should be called, "Two Narcissists"... and a cheap script...
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This.
Caused by ‘these people’ how utterly sad for a father to refer to his children that way.
That awful vernacular when discussing his own children denotes to me that , sadly he never had a bond with them in the first place. He basically just used the OG3 as intermediaries with his children!
‘These People’ that worked to give you a fabulous lifestyle!!!
You never tell your children you didn’t love their other parent. What does that tell them about how you feel about them. Sick!!
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Kody and Robyn are two peas in a pod. She also did the same thing with her oldest kids bio father. She said he begged and begged her to sleep with him and she insinuated that he raped her. They bring out the worst in each other. They're both narcissists.
I’m curious if he never loved him what are you suppose the children feel coming from that relationship?
Suddenly all of Kody's kids matter, his relationship with them matters to her...I'm not buying it.
right? Something in the milk ain’t clean🤔 almost seems like the scene was carefully set up…
Ever since he hooked up with sobbin she quickly p***y whipped him to heel ,, she is all he cares about ,, he seems to think they should chase him and kiss his butt , Robin should watch him around her daughters cause he's got them in his sights that's my opinion
It only matters because if the kids check out so does mom's money 💰 poor Sobyn might have to get a J O B
I absolutely agree. 👍 She thinks in order to keep the money rolling in, having the communication with the OGS and their children is very important. Robyn knows that they’re at the tail-end of the show and the possibility of the other women getting their own show is imminent.👍
No I’m not buying this. It’s just a way to try to get sympathy for their situation. Robyn has no heart and hasn’t really cared about anyone but herself.
Robyn’s not used to getting the truth thrown at her and she’s not liking the fact that all the kids are letting them know that they are not small anymore and they can think for themselves and they have their own opinions. Now that the majority of the kids are grown, they’re not afraid to use their voices and tell him exactly how they feel and Robbinson used to that. Cody, on the other hand he still doesn’t see the fact that he is to blame for his actions of being an absence father. And he doesn’t like that he doesn’t like being told that he was a failure as a father. These kids are all big enough now they don’t have to watch what they say or anything they’re all adults. They’re all successful adults two and I’ve done it without him and they’re calling him out on it. For Robin she doesn’t understand her part in all of this if you truly wanted those kids to have any type of relationship, she would not have told Logan or mykelti that they wanted no communication during that Christmas fiasco. That was all Robin’s doing she interfered with she should know she try to control the narrative which she was wrong and she tried to tell a bunch of adults how she was how she wanted things done and they retaliated and said no, she was making demands, and they were saying no. So Robin took it upon herself to tell all of them we want nothing to do with you we don’t want you and how do you expect 13 kids to react they’re not gonna like her very much because she put her nose and where it wasn’t wanted but she’s always done that she doesn’t like getting a taste of a medicine.
So yes, there are going to be fractures they’re gonna be downright loose and it’s being hauled out and nobody likes it so when when the things get hot and the truth gets too much to Cody, he takes off he did it with Jenelle. He did it with Christine he told him he didn’t have to be there and he took off never finishing the conversation. Never finding a solution never did nothing so now that it’s her turn to get it. Oh, she don’t like that either , just like when she said seasons ago oh Cody never gets to walk off. When Jenelle and Christine were complaining about every time that they wanted to finish the conversation, Cody would just take off on them Robin Snap back right away and said oh he doesn’t get to do that with me. Robyn said she never gave him the opportunity to just take off that she made him listen to everything she had to say she was very proud of that, so what’s the problem now she can’t keep them home to finish the argument to finish that part of the conversation that’s her turn to experience that she doesn’t like it. Anybody ever thought that these two people were going to be able to go to the happier raptor right off of the sunset without fractures they were kidding themselves these two people have a hard road and there’s a lot of factors to it never one there is no trust in that household. Absolutely not because she lies and he lies. They both lie. Next she has infant child, her children, younger than what they are to keep him a happy man she’s not allowing her children to grow up and face the real world. These kids are gonna really have a hard time adjusting. Next they’re going broke and money is always the number one reason for an argument. Bad feelings, no good sleep irritability all of that. Many problems is is one thing so it’s a lot of stuff happening. It’s coming to the surface and until these two can figure out how to put it all together. Blaming other people isn’t going to help. And the kids they just fed up with their song and dance. They’re tired of his game and they’re fed up with her and they let them know so she sitting here Lyons saying how hard to try to tell him talk to your children because that’s not what she saying when the cameras are not there.
The worst thing he said, with contempt, was that he would not allow "these people" to come between he and his beloved Robin. These people are your CHILDREN! Robin, you better hope your kids don't disagree with him. Leopards don't change their spots. If he can drop them, he can drop yours.
His children didn't cause problems with Robyn. Robyn created those problems herself with her lies. Sure, it finally got to a point where the older ones were saying screw you. We are adults and don't need him as a father figure. They also said most of these problems were created by Robyn and her lies.
Those women and those children are the only reason kody even has job
He's sick
Truth.
He owes EVERYTHING to them he needs to check himself
Ok, I’ve wanted to say this for a while. When Kody introduced the OG’s he showed the kids of the OG as “Janelle’s kids” and “Christine’s kids” and “Mary’s kid” but Robin’s kids are to Kody, “my tender aged children”. Tell me I’m not the only one that noticed!?!
Nope! I've been screaming that for the last week. Completely agree and no way, you are not the only one.
No. Wheres Truly she's not a tender,just another kid I guess
Yup!
I thought that had to do with the babies being biologically his, and just being used to telling people who belonged to which mom. On the show he was always having to remind viewers which mom had which kids. He calls Robin's kids "Robin's kids" all the time. Truly should be with Kody, totally right, cause the deal is he spend the most time with the kids when they are young. Christine was the mom for most of the kids, but she didn't want anything to do with Robin when she had her baby. Robin didn't get the support the other wives did, but circumstances were different. Christine should have had Truly go to Robin's, but instead Truly didn't feel comfortable spending the night when they split. Kody didn't want Christine taking Truly far away, because he wanted the time she deserved at her age. It felt like Christine was influencing Truly to take sides from what I saw.
@@bedriddenbeauty301 but didn’t Christine say she was hurt that Robyn wouldn’t let Christine watch Robyn’s kids? Robyn wanted to stay home and have a nanny but Christine wanted to watch them. That was in a group tell all wasn’t it?
Madison is a smart woman. Glad she is happy and far from Kody.
Robyn, please, what are your older children's relationship with their bio father?
This was a sad attempt to redeem Robyn's reputation😢. Robyn couldn't even muster up real emotions.
I call bull
Me too!! This was 100% fake! ALL of it!!
Dayton apparently is in contact with his bio Dad and is spending more and more quality time with him.
And siblings
@@CC-us2bhI really hope that’s accurate because Dayton and his 2 sisters need to have a relationship with their Dad. Especially since he’s dealing with cancer.
Robin said he was abusive, and how do people forget biological father signed over his parental rights so Kody could legally adopt her kids. What kind of father does that if he wants his kids at all.
The kids were treated,badly way before the splits .
I think it’s more “the fans hate us now, fix it” as opposed to really “I care about your relationship with your children.”
Hahaha too true. She’s trying to save face in front of the cameras
👏👏👏👏👏👏
I’m shocked not everyone sees through her. It’s like people have amnesia.
@@BestCoastLifeI agree, I don't understand how easily swayed people are. We have watched her for 18 seasons, we know exactly what kind of person she is.
The way he say he didn't love their mothers and he wonders why they hate him...
Mind boggling. He lays up nites thinking of other reasons he can feel betrayed.
He refers to his children as these people who does that?
I noticed that that is awful!
exactly what I was thinking!
Right?! It just shows how conditional his love is for his family members and children.
Idiots
@@maggiejaunzems1202 right!!!!
The OG's kids are treating him, now, the way hes treated them for years!!
Exactly!
Honestly if she cared she would have bought gifts for at least Savannah.
If she cared she would've done alot of things. She's never went out of her way for Kody's kids, ever.
This fight is staged.. it's staged, it's so Robyn can throw out that the OGs are the ones who are telling the kids that he's the bad guy. She said it twice.
Yup. I heard it. Lowkey blaming the Janelle and Christine. She's a manipulative B.
Yes and Robin even said that the kids are being told lies and stories from their moms. He thinks he is being trashed talked left and right, and he is innocent. I think he chooses not to be accountable for his own actions so he is deflecting all his bs on his kids. He is disgusting.
@@jenrae-w7w she tried to villainize the other wives, blaming them for “what they are saying” to the kids.
The kids can see for themselves! They don’t need their mothers to tell them that Robyn and Kody are nuts.
I do believe that these "kids" are adults for the most part. They have seen things, like Kody spending the majority of his time with Robyn. They hear things, like Kody disparaging the OG3. They interpret what they have seen and heard and are protecting themselves, their children, and their mothers from these two narcissists.
This episode completely made me sick! Robyn and Cody are clearly trying to change the narrative and it was rehearsed. Robyn and her whining to Cody, begging him to fix things with his kids was absolutely horrific and fake to me. I couldn't watch this damn episode 😞 Gosh I hate TLC reality TV (LOL)
For sure. It was damage control.
I no what you mean, I was yelling at (them) my tv!
TLC=Terrible Life Choices
How many people think this was staged and filmed after Garrison’s passing.
How could they possibly talk about the og13 in this manner if indeed Garrison had already expressed his pain in such a tragic way.
Again…..why is it the kids job to communicate to him? Man up Kody!!
Right?! Like put your feelings and bull shit aside and be there for your kids dude! That’s why they are mad is because he is fully invalidating their feelings and dismissing them.
Right?!?! When Robyn says they’re kids he says, no! They’re adults! Well dude, so are you!! 😡
@@craftilady Some people should NEVER procreate!
@@GoldenDuet 🎯 you’re so right!!
It's probably all for the best that those kids move on without a relationship with him.
If my father is constantly saying he didnt love my mother but loves the other woman i am going feel some kind of way about him and that other woman and i will not want to be bothered with either one of them
Of course! Duh!
Madison is a mama bear. Her kids don't even remember him. She also knows about his temper and hos tamtrums, and she doesn't want that around her children. She and her husband are living their lives, and Kody needs to get over it.
Yes, and for Kody to act offended because she doesn’t want a stranger fawning over her children expecting them to adore him is ridiculous. Good for Maddy. Keep your children’s emotional health a priority!
Maddy is such a gem and she is putting her children first, unlike her "father" would do for his children.
Her life will be so much better and more calm without having him around her and her family imo. She's def 💯% Janelle's daughter🌞
Respect has to be earned Kody! Even from your children
And not just once. More is caught than taught, and he's not being a leader.
How can anyone have so little self awareness, maturity or accountability. He’s a massive man baby.
They are narcissists
@@margaretward7682thank you. Where did this hate coming from. Hey Kody watch the series. This two are straight up narracists.
So the kids are blind...they couldn't see you and your car at Robyn's house all the time...
He even said he is with the wife and family that is loyal to him. "He is tired of feeling betrayed"... blah blah blah poor me...everyone is punishing me... Its getting old. He has not (from what we see) been there for his kids. He only wanted Robin and cared about Robin (and her kids) feelings and he pushed his other kids away. The kids are not at fault, they are hurt. Divorce is between the parents and you don't blame your kids. They could have used a little reassurance along the way that he loved and cared for them. He divorced them all along with their moms.
He also acts like he blames his kids for moving away, saying with a smirk, "I have work and a life in Flagstaff" and its unrealistic to see them all the time. He loves to make excuses for his crappy behavior. Don't even get me started on Christine's daughter's back surgery. That was a major operation and he should have dropped everything to be there.
So Kody takes off after an argument, and Robyn waits outside in the snow for his return? I think the whole segment was staged.
I no right, and the way she says to him "Do mind if we talk about it more, are you in a place where we can talk about it more" Oh please. He just had to be set up to say that its a "trigger point for him..." He is such a narcissist. Even Robin saying she is "so worried about these kids" where was she so upset a few years ago? She even had a sit down with her kids on another episode a couple seasons ago before a holiday and telling them that everyone was treating them badly. They are full of it.
You are so spot on with your answers to Robyn's behavior with Preston, Katie.
She is setting him up to do exactly what she did to her first husband.
I agree
Gabe said a person could have carried a baby to full term in the amount of time between Kodys visits to Janelles.
The hypocrisy of Robyn is gob-smacking. What did she do to the father of her older kids? Who lied to her own older kids about their own father? And now Robyn is pretending to be the one who was trying to heal the relationship b/w Kody & his other kids. Hypocrisy much?! I don’t buy any of what Robyn is selling.
As my Gramps always said, and many others from his generation, “You reap what you sow” Enjoy your misery , Robyn & Kody! I only feel bad for these kids. All of the kids.
He’s delusional.
Didn't Robyn do the same thing to her kids and their dad?
He just said he was only guilty for NOT falling madly in love with their mothers! Then he denies it 🤦🏽♀️
Here we go again. Me, me, me. What Robyn wants is the money. It’s to late for redemption.
Exactly their gravy train is running out. Oh no Robyn she may have to get a job.
Thank you, Katie for giving me a recap, because I can't watch it anymore. I don't believe for a second that Robyn is trying to get Kody to have a relationship with his other kids. Her own son lives in a trailer, because he disagreed with Kody's rules. They are trying to give Robyn a makeover, and make us believe she's not actually a horrible person.
April, I agree!
Agreed! Watching the episodes is a waste of time. I can get all the 🍵 from my favorite content creators!
It's all damage control.
Me either
Robyn needs to watch the show without Kody around
No, Kody you caused it all. You are 100 percent responsible. Grow up.
Maddie gossips to other family members?! I don’t think so.
It's an insult to Maddie to suggest she gives Kody a second thought.
There’s a difference between gossip and being truthful. Maddie speaks truth.
Shameless Kody screaming on Maddison when he himself said her Mother begged him to *pick her* with hands raised and tongue out act portraying her as pet 😡😡😡
How horribly toxic is this man to speak so ill about her own daughter 😠
He says “what did I do besides not love their mother and love some body else” as if it’s not a big deal to lie to a person for 25 years that you love them and take vows in front of God and their families that you would love them for all eternity and waste their youth. That’s horrible! And as horrible as it is, it’s still not even the worst thing he’s done by a long shot.
The man is an absolute idiot.
It's absolutely disgusting
He wasted the og3’s youths. Then he had his mid-life crisis and found his soul mate….and as Meri observed Robyn was 10 years old when she and Kody started their family. Yea…” it’s like we should have all been together from the beginning “. You were ten years old!!!🤢
Let's go outside and have a staged argument. Lol
We have to do it outside so we don't start throwing ugly art around
@@staycurious51 that's funny. 😆
@@staycurious51😂😂😂
it’s comical that Robin basically married her bio father figured neglected her as a child, and now Kody is doing the same thing to his other ex wives and their children.
Plus she is working extra hard so he doesn’t ignore her kids.
Makes sense. A lot of women tend to subconsciously marry men who are like their father.
Is Robin R E T A R D E D? What an embarrassment … suddenly she wants to tell Kody to connect with his kids even though she said YEAR after YEAR that she couldn’t force Kody to do anything !?!? Idiots
And she kept her kids away bc she told them the Browns don’t like you. But she knows if the kids go around them, they would be received with open arms. So now she has to continue the lie.
He isolates her exactly like an abusive man do. That he is the only one she can trust and who loves her. 🤬
Exactly.
I don’t care for her, but she is miserable, just like all of his wives were.
I don’t understand why every episode is Kody whining about the same stuff. He refuses to see that he’s at fault. He also refuses to love anyone who doesn’t agree with him.
Yes. He keeps throwing out the”betrayal” word. Shouldn’t love be the keyword between parents and children?!
I’m convinced neither of them care about any of the family. They are just whining because there is nothing else to talk about and they have to have at least one thing to say to be on film. So this is their one thing.
@crazycatlady6396 K's keyword is "betrayal," & R's is "unsafe." 🙄🤮
Caused by “these people”? I really can’t stand him.
She doesn’t want to be the bad guy. It’s a redemption ploy for Robyn
It’s definitely staged
I was surprised that Robyn said the kids heard lies from the moms. They saw the show where he screamed at J and C both. And they lived this life. And it makes me sick how he treated Savanah last Christmas.
Actually Christine is why they got the show. Her work in Utah, for Polygamous families, is the attention that got them the show. Sobyn never actually cries, no tears.
That scene with Robyn telling Kody to reach out to his kids was so contrived. I don't think it was genuine.
The kids are better off without him in their lives. Let’s be honest. Thank God for their mothers who gave them the self esteem to know how to draw healthy boundaries and keep his toxicity out of their lives
Isn’t this Kody-Robyn argument after her shutting down the Christmas gift exchange? If she wanted Kody to reach out to his kids, why did she push them away. This (staged) fight is phony!!
Exactly!
We have seen 18 seasons of Robyn doing exactly what you're NOT supposed to do in a plural family. She's fooling nobody but Kody.
Oh really? "these people"?! Seriously Kody you're a real piece of work. I hope nobody else Una lives themselves because of the emotional damage you have done. Unbelievable
Robyn now cares about Kody’s relationship with his kids .. only when cameras are rolling!!! Not buying it. She didn’t care about her own kids relationship with their bio dad! She’s always going to speak out of both sides of her mouth!
It all looked fake to me that was done after Garrison to make her look like she cares. Damage control
I thought that but the timing doesn’t work for snow.
That would be so sick
They had no idea what was coming when this was filmed. I would NOT say that TLC has favored them in the edits in anyway. it’s hard for me to think that any part of this is trying to make either of them look good lol
@user-bm8xl9mj2z , Flagstaff had a big snowstorm 10 days after Garrison's passing. It's possible that they filmed this then, but I don't know if even Kody is that much of a POS.
@@karendillon2654 i agree. I think it was even filmed to replace Garrison footage they had to cut out
This is the phoniest fight I've ever seen. I don't believe a word of it.
Watch Robyn’s shifty eyes when she’s LYING…..
THESE PEOPLE?? How about my children??
I could not stand this guy for 2 min. Hats off to Robin, she wanted him all to herself and she got him. Enjoy that lol
I feel nothing for Robin, she helped cause this,Now she has the boobie prize!
And kody got stabbed in the kidneys 😂😂😂
@@tracybeehner5305 I agree!!! I feel nada, zero, zilch in terms of empathy for Robyn. I cannot get past Robyn's utter and blatant disdain aka jealousy and lies towards Christine and her blatant using of Janelle's money. She may be manipulated by Kody however, their isolation, co-dependency and manipulations of each other is the boobie prize they both deserve..
@@elizabethroberts6169 Agree 100% !
Robin kept her kids from their father but complains about being abandoned by her dad.
Make it make sense
🙄
But see the separation between predton and his kids...doesn't effect HER. If something doesn't effect her...then it doesn't matter!
I.e. 'preston'
In Liebrows world 2+2=6 and Kobaldy will agree because she's so "sensitive & has only done good for the family" (not true, even with her own family. Her kids are, at the very least, emotionally stunted). To little & WAY late for both narcissists! 🤬
about 12 years too late sobin
Kody YOU have betrayed YOUR children. Whether they’re adults or babies. YOU made this choice not them 🤦♀️. Gosh just watch this show from the beginning and see what you actually said. Write it down and then look at the hot mess that is your life.
They are trying to save Rob’ems reputation . Not gonna work ,
She’s full of it
The way she flicks her eyeballs about when she's manufacturing a lie is wild.😂
It’s truly reptilian, isn’t it!
Did they? Did they have a heated argument? I'm not sure. That conversation was cringe!!!
Him calling his children " these people " 😮
That man child is a coward 🤦♀️
Kody only loves Kody
The psycho babble from Kody and Robyn was irritating to me.
He says the kids hate him Because of what the wives told the kids but hmmm kody what about Ariella saying she hates christine .so what have kody and robyn told Ariella hmmm
He’s literally beefing with his children. Who the parent and who the child?
When is Kody going to get tired of hearing himself whine ??? Nothing about his behavior is worthy of respect. Respect is earned. And he is not earning it.
Never, as he has zero insight & is incapable of owning & making amends for his behavior. Cardinal character trait of narcissists. He has to be the perpetual victim & just can’t move off of that. His kids w/ the OG3 are the adults in the room while Kody is the petulant toddler.
Just look at the oldest kid, Hunter, who stepped up long ago in to a dad role because Kody wouldn’t. He was barely an adult himself & going to school & in the military. Hunter is an amazing young man, no thanks to Kody. When Garrison died, who came immediately from Vegas to Flagstaff to be by Janelle’s side. It was never Kody. Hunter had the emotional maturity to hold his mom up thru the immediate aftermath of the death, while Kody bailed than tried to play the grieving father. He’s so gross.
It's like a tornado of emotions it's crazy. One of the things that Gabe said in the preview of next week. He said "Dad keeps Robyn in her Victimhood." Or something to that effect.
I would DIE OF ASTONISHMENT if Kody took even 1% of any kind of blame 🙄🙄🤡
Why are Kody and Robin always outside filming? Are we really watching a reality show that takes place in everyone’s driveway?
Haha so true
Lmao! It was filmed 2yrs ago, K,R & TLC think we're stupid & don't know she's a shopaholic & he's buying "assets" (tacky, ugly prints aka art in their minds). She couldn't wait 3-4 mins for him to come inside to stage their fight? No, when would she get to wear her purple hat & mittens? 😂
@@thisandthatminis all their kids live at home so they don’t wanting them watching the fake drama?
I was a precocious 7 year old, the middle child of 3 kids, when I asked my mom 'if the house caught fire and you could only save one of us 3, which one would you save?' She said 'I would save your dad because we can always have more kids'. That was over 50 years ago and I never forgot how insignificant I felt.
I’m so sorry that happened to you.
😢
Yikes
Whoa! I’m so sorry…. That was so foolish of her!
I'm a mom of 5 and I would pretty much say the same, but would say " id save your dad because I couldn't just pick one of my children"
I knew it was a fake storyline when they posted it. It was a fake fight
Fake people
I agree, a totally fake fight!
I kinda doubt the kids really thinking much about Kody, in the way he thinks!
Fake, fake scene. They, Kody and Robyn, are beyond redemption
I love how calls his children these people. Just shows how disconnect he feels about his children
They’ve been in touch with a PR person. Rehabilitating Robyn’s image. The truth is she’s an enabler and it’s a very grey space to be. She’s decided to buy into him and glorify him, even when criticizing him she is praising him and enabling him. It’s disgusting… Robyn alienated her children from their father. Robyn allowed Kody to drift apart from his family. She is disgenuine at best here.
You nailed it. She was feeding into his delusion about the moms telling the kids misinformation. And the fact that she says kids need their father made me so mad. She alienated her kids from their dad. Then kept Kody from going to the other homes. The math ain't mathing. Nice try at a redemption arc, but we are smarter than that
They aren't working with PR. I don't believe that. If they were, they would be on social media.
You are NOT always right Katie....
When she thanked him for saying those people destroyed his and her relationship - eww. Just horrible.
Kody never loved his 3 ex wives but it was ok to sleep with them.
What a prick
And yet she married someone exactly like her dad. AND she turned Kody into her dad.
Kody is not above throwing anybody under the bus, even Robyn.
It's fake! Kody is trying to make poor Sobin look like a good person, which she is a lying Conniven backstabbing greedy person. So no, I dont believe what the 2 of them are dropping.
She should have said, “Well, we will never be okay as long as you aren’t okay with your kids.” Instead she essentially says, “thanks for prioritizing me.” 😂
I wish Kodywould STOP this rediculous declaration if his love for Robyn!! Why doesn't he stfu!! No on wants to hear him. What an insult to the OG16. especially when he talks about his " family " when he speaks of Robyns kids. He is sick, twisted, heartless, ,insensitive, thoughtless etc... Hard to watch this, I can't understand why TLC allows him to do this....censor him TLC, please
I have to see this meltdown…I will continue to watch.
This all fake. She demonize those kids. Always talking about not being SAFE around the other kids
Kody and Robin need acting lessons!
Lol...maybe they should get real jobs.
Yes,! What you said!!
Exactly! It's all BS.