First RCT of Colonoscopy ever- NordICC is a Negative Trial! Implications, Interpretation & More

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  • @iamspartacus7756
    @iamspartacus7756 2 года назад +142

    My mother had early stage colon cancer, probably from poor eating after my dad’s death. She did 6 weeks of radiation which caused terrible burns on her abdomen. These burns went untreated, and my mother suffered terribly. Ultimately, she was so weak that she fell one day at home, hit her head on the dresser. Over the next few days she complained (which was rare) about horrible headaches, so we took my mother to the emergency center at the major hospital downtown Fort Worth. My sister explained every detail of her cancer, radiation, the burns and mostly the headaches from hitting her head on a dresser! The hospital concentrated on her burns ignoring the headaches. Inside of a week my mother was dead, due to a brain bleed that had been neglected. Over all my mother received terrible care….careless care. The colon cancer, radiation, all about the money not really care. Her burns going untreated. Supposedly they did get rid of the cancer, but the lack of care ultimately killed her. I do not trust doctors, I feel they are money hungry glorified drug pushers. Every doctor I go to gets upset over me challenging the prescribed drugs or procedures they recommended. They also don’t appreciate my pre diagnosis before I come to the appointment. But if one goes to the doctor with out any prior information, one winds up taken advantage of or perhaps given poor care and won’t know it.

    • @cellgrrl
      @cellgrrl 2 года назад +11

      I am an RN who always has a diagnosis when I walk into a doctor's office. After years of telling the doctors what is wrong with me, I find that is always what my diagnosis is. It was a rare doctor who challenged my thinking, and believe it or not, once I was wrong! The point is, the doctors are too lazy to do any work, and if the patient tells them what is wrong, they will unquestionably accept it. I have changed my approach, now days I walk in, leave my nurse hat outside, and explain my symptoms. Then I wait for what the doctor has to say. That is his job and what I pay him to do. I like the old-timer doctors, they still practice medicine. I am so sorry to hear what happened to your mother, that whole story is horrific. Just wanted to present an alternative view about when to accept a diagnosis, and you are right, we have to educate ourselves the best we can when dealing with doctors.

    • @earthangel2524
      @earthangel2524 2 года назад +10

      I am so sorry to hear about your mom's terrible suffering.

    • @traceybaldwin6509
      @traceybaldwin6509 2 года назад +5

      I’m so sorry about your mother. Iatrogenic death is the THIRD leading cause of death. I’m pretty sure my dad was a victim, 1989.
      I’ve never trusted doctors and have rarely seen one (last was in about 1997 for bacterial bronchitis that I couldn’t shake and needed antibiotics)). An off-label treatment in 1988 had ruined my life, so I decided to do without the best I could. I’ve never had a flu vax (nor ever had the flu). I barely take any OTCs.

    • @wattsobx
      @wattsobx 2 года назад

      Mainstream Drs are scum...they have bought into a God complex, the woke culture, they dont treat the patient they treat the stat, or mindlessly follow their Groups protocol. The 2nd or 3rd cause of death is medical malpractice!

    • @boohoo5750
      @boohoo5750 2 года назад

      @@traceybaldwin6509
      Tracey The Doctor Who is going to deliver my baby, didn’t tell me there’s a good possibility his head wasn’t gonna make it through my pelvic. So I labored for 36 hours almost died they cut him out of me they call it a cesarean. That was in 1975 I like you decided I didn’t trust these doctors either. There were still good doctors around at that time. Now they’re just taught to dole out drugs, and get kickbacks. I also have only taken one flu vaccine when I was very young maybe 20, made me so sick, and very mad. So I’ve never have taken the flu shot sense, I haven’t gotten the flu, I don’t think I’ll ever trust the doctors. I’m excited to see what Dr. Vinay Prasad has to say about this Colonoscopy. It all falls back on, they’re given a license to practice, whether they got is a D grade or an A+ grade, they’re not practicing on me. The money machine, I’m pretty sure all my families follow protocol the last couple of years. It makes me very sad. I do appreciate Dr. Vinay Prasad thank you for sharing 💕

  • @abunchahooey
    @abunchahooey 2 года назад +497

    12 year Endoscopy nurse here. I’ve circulated in hundreds of colonoscopies, and my hospital just finished construction on a 3 story GI center. Here’s what I’ve noticed through the years: 1) Our GI patients with upper and lower issues are getting younger. Having teens/young adults as patients used to be rare, not any more. 2) When GI symptoms aren’t answered through endoscopy, congratulations, you’ve won a CT scan and prescriptions. 3) In my experience, a positive Cologuard usually results in nothing, or a polyp or two. 4)I asked most of our GI physicians which part of the fancy GI center was going to be dedicated to diet/nutrition counseling for better GI health, they all acted like I was crazy. 5) The aforementioned younger patient base have terrible diets, drink 8 Red Bulls a day, and wonder why they don’t feel good. Many are on anxiety meds and are hoping to be granted disability benefits. 6) When the recommended age for first screening went from 50 years of age to 40, I asked the GI Dr’s if we’ve been getting young patients with detected tumors on my days off because I must be missing the reason, they looked at me like I was crazy again. I left GI/Endoscopy a few months ago, I felt like a factory worker cramming as many patients on the assembly line as I could in a day so the hospital can make as much money as possible, while ignoring preventative care/lifestyle issues. I will say, if you have a family history of colon cancer/polyps, it’s important to be screened regularly. Oh, and I wish fecal occult tests differentiated between tumor bleeding and hemorrhoidal bleeding. Almost everybody over 30 has hemorrhoids. I can go on and on, I’ve become extremely disillusioned with “health” care. Oh, one more thing, I’ve never worked with a Dr that couldn’t get to the cecum, unless a large tumor prevented them from advancing the scope.

    • @NicholasAndre1
      @NicholasAndre1 2 года назад +31

      There are plenty of doctors moving into the health space. Most GI problems magically vanish with nutritional interventions. It’s a very positive space with lots of opportunity though it does run contrary to the current business model of healthcare which is a problem that requires solving. Virta health is one of the few that have been successful.

    • @carloscontreras3633
      @carloscontreras3633 2 года назад +3

      Do they say they were unable to get to the cecum?

    • @mballer
      @mballer 2 года назад +9

      $$

    • @luiswhatshisname7667
      @luiswhatshisname7667 2 года назад +67

      @@NicholasAndre1 Some 10 years ago I was having GI problems. The doctor prescribed the usual BS. At the end of the appointment the nurse, in passing asked how long had I taken the peptobismo I wrote down on the pre appointment interview. I said ... years. ... Her eyes showed her surprised concern and explained that Peptobismo should only be taken for a short period of time, a couple weeks max. I guess I was getting bismuth poisoning. I just changed my diet and dropped the PB. That fixed it.

    • @alexk48
      @alexk48 2 года назад +40

      @@luiswhatshisname7667 the doctor still got the fee. Should have been paid to the nurse.

  • @gracelynne3918
    @gracelynne3918 2 года назад +124

    I live in South America. My doctors here - where the medical care is superior - no longer look to the US as they do to Europe. The FDA has lost all credibility and the world knows it.

    • @bloepje
      @bloepje 2 года назад +8

      The FDA receives about $800 million a year from the pharma industry. A lot of people in the FDA find a new job in the pharma industry.
      At the same time the EMA receives about $300 million a year from the pharma industry.
      In both cases that's close to 90% of their total budget.

    • @richardcrocker8048
      @richardcrocker8048 2 года назад

      In the 80’s, the hijacking of health care by 3rd party For Profit Corporations began …. The structurally corrupt US Oligarchy not only did not stop this but assisted thru legislation. In the late 80’s, the Anti-Trust Laws that had served the country well for decades were abandoned …. the results were predictable ….. merger fever, Oligopolies and Monopolies. Add Govt corruption and Health Care is about Profits for Corporations ….. not patient care.

    • @snowps1
      @snowps1 7 месяцев назад

      Absolutely. The US Healthcare System is 100% profit driven. It is not Health driven. Just look at the issues with transgender surgeries. Europe has moved away from surgeries and cross sex hormones for teens. But the US is going full steam ahead with it because it has become a billion dollar industry here.

    • @nicmart
      @nicmart 4 месяца назад

      @@gracelynne3918
      It would interesting to read about the evidence that South Africa medical care is superior. Link?
      Out of 210 countries, South Africa ranks 176th in life expectancy. At birth, life expectancy in SA is 14 years fewer than in the US.
      “South Africa remains at the epicentre of the global HIV-1 pandemic, with an estimated 7.5 million people, or 18.3% [15.6-20.5%] of the population, living with HIV-1 as of 2021.”
      www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-47254-z

    • @puo2123
      @puo2123 4 месяца назад

      ​@@nicmartbecause not all can afford healthcare

  • @JR-bj3uf
    @JR-bj3uf 11 месяцев назад +9

    My dad had his requisite Colonoscopies every year past age 62 until they perforated his colon. He was so sick, hospitalized but they insisted it had noting to do with the Colonoscopy he had a week prior. That was in. He never went back. My dad lived to be 91 and died from complications due to dementia.

    • @richardscathouse
      @richardscathouse 11 месяцев назад

      Sad. No one should have to suffer like that 😢

  • @quarteralien
    @quarteralien 2 года назад +20

    Has anyone studied the effect of "cleaning the colon" for testing and what it does to the microbiome? It can't be a healthy thing to do. I would like evidence that it's not disruptive to gut flora that we're starting to understand have such a huge role in overall health. I've never seen that addressed.

  • @kenyafromcali
    @kenyafromcali Год назад +27

    ⁠The same thing happened to me. The doctor was about to send me down a long road of tests for chest pain. The nurse yelled across the office, “There’s nothing wrong with that girl, but GERD.” She knew intimately that my bloodwork was perfect over several years. Solution: I lost 30 lbs, and the acid reflux and chest pains magically disappeared. Smdh, thank God for nurses! 🙏🏾

    • @omnimetric84
      @omnimetric84 11 месяцев назад +1

      Agreed, I’m thankful for true nurses, I’ve worked with (and lived with) some.
      Unfortunately, there are still many that are simply good, obedient, non- questioning, medical-machine drones.

    • @jainam6306
      @jainam6306 8 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately if the drs first approach was to recommend weight loss..they would probably be accused of calling you fat and not taking your symptoms seriously

    • @jamest5081
      @jamest5081 6 месяцев назад

      similar happened to me. An er doc wanted me to go to this specialist and that.
      I said "doc, i work nights as a nurse, i drink bangs like they are water, I dip at least a can of Copenhagen a day, and I drink coffee to help me sleep, and I work in a critical care unit where my cortisol is always off the charts. The cause is obvious."
      When I went to a lower acuity, daytime setting and stopped relying on caffeine and nicotine to feel normal: bam, those issues (mostly) went away.

  • @teresabenson3385
    @teresabenson3385 2 года назад +84

    Thank you for this! Fight the good fight against overscreening, overdiagnosis, and overtreatment!

  • @paulmelvin6952
    @paulmelvin6952 2 года назад +70

    Tremendously intelligent and refreshing commentary by a intellgent, balanced and sober person who has no other motivation than to be guided by what the data actually shows and not the money, speciality bais, or the politics. I'm sure the GI docs will begin to petition to have this man band from RUclips for daring to go against the orthodoxy of the absolute benefit of colonscopy based screening.

  • @boatman222345
    @boatman222345 2 года назад +96

    I've had 4 colonoscopies over the past 30 years. The first one cost about $600 and the price went up each time. Four years ago my doctor wanted to do another one but I refused because of the price which varied from $3,000 to $6,000 depending upon the hospital. My guess is the reason for the current big push for colonoscopies is…drum roll please…money! The procedure takes very little time to perform, consumes a minimum amount of medical supplies, and results in a large profit. Best thing since sliced bread for hospital profits…real pain in the rectum for the rest of us!

    • @gracelynne3918
      @gracelynne3918 2 года назад +13

      One of the most eye-opening books I've ever read: American Sickness by Elisabeth Rosenthal. Explains everything. You will never see US healthcare the same again...and it's even worse than you think.

    • @rationalnuggets9617
      @rationalnuggets9617 2 года назад +4

      @@gracelynne3918 I just purchased this on audible. Thanks for the recommendation

    • @boatman222345
      @boatman222345 2 года назад +3

      @@gracelynne3918 Thanks! I just ordered it from Interlibrary loan.

    • @kristinescozzari3839
      @kristinescozzari3839 2 года назад +1

      Purchased thanks for the recommendation I'm always looking for new titles.

    • @richardcrocker8048
      @richardcrocker8048 2 года назад +6

      Replacing tax supported non-profit health care facilities (ex. City, County and State Hospitals ) with 3rd Party For Profit Corporate owned Health Care (in an Oligarchy) beginning in the 80’s was predictive of the joke/rip off our health care system has become.

  • @lydiajoymcdowell-davis3390
    @lydiajoymcdowell-davis3390 2 года назад +85

    You actually care about people. You aren't just going through the motions. You have courage.

    • @fr33yamusic
      @fr33yamusic 2 года назад

      New mantra

    • @corny5128
      @corny5128 2 года назад

      Going through the motions....🤣🤣🤣

  • @stanleysokolow
    @stanleysokolow 2 года назад +14

    Great information and excellent presentation! Years ago, when I was covered by the Kaiser medical plan, the preferred colorectal screening at Kaiser was a flex sig every 5 years and a stool-sample (FOBT at first but later when available it was FIT) test annually, which is what I had. When I moved and no longer had Kaiser but had an insurance plan, I was pressured by my doctor to have a colonoscopy, but I looked closely at the stats on perforation rate and chose to have a flex sig again. I did it without any sedation, which allowed me to actually watch what the camera saw during the procedure. When he reached the top of descending colon flexure on the doorstep of the transverse colon, the doctor tried to talk me into letting him continue all the way to the cecum thus becoming a full colonoscopy, but stood firm and refused. Now with this new study, I'm glad I did that. It's your colon and you have the choice. So, stand firm and do what the evidence says, not what the "consensus advice" tries to persuade you to do.

  • @Naynay1160
    @Naynay1160 Год назад +5

    I was injured by this test, then i was told that i was crazy, really...seriously ....results
    I don’t see Drs anymore.... been thriving the best i can since 2011.....

  • @stefanmironov6405
    @stefanmironov6405 2 года назад +6

    The last couple of years have been so revealing...Great channel with very informative and useful comentary.

  • @c7pictures
    @c7pictures 2 года назад +25

    Vinay, the paper was a bombshell for sure, and previous research has indicated as much and perhaps the need for non-invasive testing or maybe, as you said, the test that has the best evidence. Appreciate your comments on the USPSTF. We are going to be discussing this paper and upcoming research, and the review of many studies you didn't discuss here, for a while. This paper and your interpretation, of which I mostly agree with reservations and room for discussion, will create shock waves in my field. Thank you for your education and insightful, well composed discussion on this subject.

  • @gnormhurst
    @gnormhurst 2 года назад +28

    "early screening saves lives." But what they really mean is that early screening improves five-year survival. Of course it does, but that doesn't mean you lived longer than you would have, you just knew about the cancer longer.

    • @1997Ghost
      @1997Ghost 11 месяцев назад +2

      lol. you know they can remove it and it is pretty highly curable during early detection right?

    • @keepingitreal618
      @keepingitreal618 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@1997Ghostabsolutely if you have screening and operations you won’t die of cancer 😂😂😂😂

    • @wmd40
      @wmd40 4 месяца назад

      I'm so confused by comments like this. the point only matters on paper. in real life things like 5 years of extra life hopefully with medicine to make it more comfortable is BETTER than not knowing and suffering. I don't understand what people who comment this bs are thinking. like do you only care about papers and data? should we just all refuse tests and suffer until we die and then nobody knows why we even died? this will screw up other sets of data like the true cause of death for many people will never be uncovered. most people don't get autopsies. they will just say you died of a random cardiovascular or pulmonary event and not look into it further.
      medicine is full of BS and they only care about money but I'm so tired of people presenting these ideas with zero solutions or ideas to fix it bc it ends up influencing those with bad judgement/reactionaries to be anti-medicine and anti-science. which is the exact opposite of what we need. we need a revolution of healthcare. not an abandonment of it.

  • @ElishevaLe
    @ElishevaLe 2 года назад +28

    Thank you.
    I've been reading Gerd Gigerenzer on risk assessment, and am more and more comfortable not going for screening and focusing on lifestyle.
    And dealing with questions of quality of life

  • @robyn3349
    @robyn3349 2 года назад +11

    Fascinating... think of all the time, money, inconvenience, and actual harm done with NO EVIDENCE of benefit! (I had a complication from anesthesia with that "You are fifty" colonoscopy, and that was the sickest I have ever been and I missed weeks of work.)

  • @wisenber
    @wisenber 2 года назад +30

    Here's a thought. Instead of saying "We could have spent it on this." or "We could have spent it on that." Why do we have to spend it at all? If I decide a Disney+ subscription isn't worth the money, it doesn't mean I need to go to a movie theater to offset that decision.

    • @stoneagedjp
      @stoneagedjp 2 года назад

      My thoughts exactly.

    • @rationalnuggets9617
      @rationalnuggets9617 2 года назад +1

      I love Vinay, but he is a liberal/progressive :). He just happens to be an intelligent and rational one so he is a breath of fresh air.

    • @wisenber
      @wisenber 2 года назад +2

      @@rationalnuggets9617 To me, it looks like he has been evolving quite a bit over the last couple of years. He remains evidence and data driven. He just hasn't arrived at the point to where he can see that sometimes less spending is the answer to bad spending instead of better spending.
      That being said, he has been navigating the same censorship tight wire as others, and the potential consequences don't appear to unnerve him.

  • @davidjohnston4240
    @davidjohnston4240 11 месяцев назад +5

    My golly I was right. I read the prior research and have been declining colonoscopy due to the risk profile and lack of evidence for benefit. I get flack from my wife and doctor for this. Now the lack of evidence has grown up and is now evidence of a lack of benefit.

  • @Hrairoo555
    @Hrairoo555 2 года назад +25

    My mother had 2 colonoscopies. Both times within a month she suffered blockage and ischemic colitis. It was not until the 2nd time did I realize it was likely the colonoscopies that were the cause. Unfortunately, that 2nd emergency caused her colon to die and an emergency iliostomy had to be performed. Of course the doctors refused to acknowledge the connection saying that colonoscopies were very safe. 😕.
    Athough I received the COVID 19 vaccine, this colored my opinion of mandated "perfectly safe" vaccinations.

  • @Paladin101
    @Paladin101 11 месяцев назад +2

    Simply excellent! Anyone can disagree, but it takes experience, knowledge, and passion to effectively argue a position. This was something science inherited from original western philosophers and the foundation of critical thinking. This video is a smiling example of such a philosophy and a rare ship in an ocean of deceit that is pervasive in science now and far too many in the medical community.
    “Do no harm” is now merely a suffix to the real motivation of “… to the growth of my bank balance!”

  • @earthangel2524
    @earthangel2524 2 года назад +37

    Contaminated equipment is also a risk of colonoscopy.

    • @dedetudor.
      @dedetudor. 2 года назад

      Yes... I got a medical alert sent out by the FDA trying to figure out a way to reduce infection from cross contamination from endoscopies.
      These things cannot be autoclaved so they have to be treated with a disinfectant gas, usually ethylene oxide... Which is listed in the EPA list of poisons as carcinogenic.
      Let's figure out some other way.
      I had one and won't do that again.
      Drinking that stuff made me sick. They put me completely out... And I wasn't lucid talking to the Dr like Katie was.
      It completely disrupts your gut microbiom that Drs seem so ignorant about.
      It's like they're saying
      Oh here! Let's do everything we can to tear up your gut microbiom and not tell you how to build it back.... That ought to send you back for some more drugs for that!
      Oy! Only they don't work. So it's Stool softeners for life.

  • @jimc3891
    @jimc3891 2 года назад +9

    Great comment you made, “screening turns healthy people into patients.”

  • @jackierichards1597
    @jackierichards1597 2 года назад +4

    Brilliant .... I had rectal cancer in 2006 ... 10 hr operation and long term radiaton (from which I still suffer) but had annual colonostomys until last year when I was so weak after the dreadful prep that I passed out after the fifth attempt to find a vein for the sedative. Woke up on a drip. I will never ever have one again. Thank you for this.

    • @datingamedicalstudent9129
      @datingamedicalstudent9129 10 месяцев назад

      I think your risks are different then what he is generalizing in this paper. I wouldn't take your specific case as an example as this study controls for such factors as history of bowl related cancers and screens these people out of the trial. This is otherwise healthy individuals for routine follow up. I am a phd researcher. Definitely talk to your provider though about your situation and alternatives etc.

  • @carnivorehippie8071
    @carnivorehippie8071 Год назад +5

    I made the decision many years ago that I would not have colonoscopy screening. I am very glad I did. I will never have one unless I have symptoms that specifically indicate one.

  • @yenmano
    @yenmano 2 года назад +89

    Great video. Preventative medicine is such a contradiction in the US and Canada. We're way too polite over these backwards incentives and pretending we're all evidence based practices.

    • @camillew4088
      @camillew4088 2 года назад

      0 90s

    • @aliterogasolini6401
      @aliterogasolini6401 2 года назад +1

      More important than the trial, how does one get clarity of thought like you have Dr Prasad.

  • @martanieradka4675
    @martanieradka4675 2 года назад +63

    Mammography, because of its risk of inducing cancer is not recommended in healthy women in Switzerland as preventive screening

    • @nickwit21
      @nickwit21 2 года назад +11

      And its about as common in the US as getting your bloodwork done.

    • @alexk48
      @alexk48 2 года назад +3

      Do you do thermography in Switzerland or just manual breast exams?

    • @janeteddddd
      @janeteddddd 2 года назад

      Yeah, I stopped that dangerous test 3 yrs ago when I realized how corrupt and dangerous diagnostic testing..my eyes got opened with this bs evil scamdemic.

    • @StephyGrowsWeed
      @StephyGrowsWeed 2 года назад

      Zur Früherkennung von Brustkrebs werden Frauen ab dem 50. Lebensjahr alle zwei Jahre Mammografie-Untersuchungen empfohlen. In Kantonen mit Früherkennungsprogrammen bekommen Frauen ab dem 50. Lebensjahr alle 2 Jahre eine persönliche Einladung zur Mammografie-Untersuchung. Frauen in Kantonen ohne Früherkennungsprogrammen bekommen keine Einladung, sind jedoch dennoch angehalten für ihr Wohl und ihre Gesundheit regelmäßig eine Mammografie-Untersuchung durchführen zu lassen. Dies muss jedoch eigenständig mit dem Frauenarzt oder der Frauenärztin des Vertrauens besprochen werden.

    • @2cupojoe136
      @2cupojoe136 2 года назад +3

      That’s not why it was not recommended.

  • @maryburnett3174
    @maryburnett3174 Год назад +2

    Thank you for following actual science. Most people don’t understand what that means.

  • @jackieroberts6316
    @jackieroberts6316 2 года назад +24

    Lord this made me have flash backs to statistics in college! Had a doctor about 10 years ago that it was time for my colonoscopy. I said no thanks. He said I could not be his patient if I refused. He is no longer my doctor. In fact, I have no doctor. All they do is run tests on you till they find something.

  • @annetteq7910
    @annetteq7910 2 года назад +40

    So the industry tells us of sharp increases of colon cancer numbers. I have had several patients with positive FOB or Cologuard and negative colonoscopies. The patients are not happy and not trusting. This VLOG has really been eye opening. Thanks!

    • @rickshay4656
      @rickshay4656 2 года назад +6

      but presumably you know that stool screening tests err on the side of sensitivity at the cost of specificity. It’s your fault for not counseling your patients on the fact that even with a positive stool test they are still more likely to have a negative colonoscopy than not. It’s all a risk benefit discussion

    • @annetteq7910
      @annetteq7910 2 года назад +1

      @@rickshay4656 my conversation with patients is regarding EBP and current guidelines when a positive test has resulted. I then refer to GI to discuss all risks vs benefit and for further work up if indicated.

    • @josiepkat
      @josiepkat 2 года назад +4

      @@rickshay4656 Yep. Just talking about this with my doctor last week and he said he had a patient in the next room completely freaked out over a positive cologuard test. smh. She is now saying she will ONLY do the colonoscopy now. This doctor is a spine doctor btw - not anyone who deals in cancer. I did a cologuard but I also read that there are false positives with them - and that sometimes insurances will count cologuard as the screening and make you pay for the colonoscopy. Since I have no family history I am not running to have that horrible test done - I will stick with cologuard for now.

    • @aguyfromnothere
      @aguyfromnothere 2 года назад +1

      There is a clear increase among younger persons with colorectal cancer.

    • @alexk48
      @alexk48 2 года назад +10

      @@aguyfromnothere there's a clear increase in young people of diseases that used to be associated with old people. There's also a big increase in obesity + type 2 diabetes in young people that puts them at increased risk for cancer + cardiovascular disease which were once diseases of old age.

  • @gmil2573
    @gmil2573 8 месяцев назад +1

    A true public service. Thank you Doctor.

  • @JeffreyWyss
    @JeffreyWyss 2 года назад +3

    Please keep doing this type of stuff. This stuff has a much bigger impact than your clinical practice and you are unusually good at this.

  • @pikayla5749
    @pikayla5749 Год назад +3

    Love this information! Had my first colonoscopy and you are right. The prep is horrible and the whole experience very anxiety producing. Plus I had it during COVID making it double trouble. I think next time I'll opt for the sigmoidoscopy!

  • @BeingMeRV
    @BeingMeRV 2 года назад +19

    Please look at mammograms and the over treatment of DCIS!

    • @nicole2828
      @nicole2828 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/paCAc9p_GsQ/видео.html

    • @BeingMeRV
      @BeingMeRV 2 года назад +1

      @@nicole2828 I’m personal friends of Peter.

  • @SnugglehPuppeh
    @SnugglehPuppeh 2 года назад +4

    My favorite medical researcher giving an endorsement of one of my favorite comedians! Wasn't expecting that.

  • @lennyv3358
    @lennyv3358 Год назад +2

    You talk about the downside of colonoscopy but not the downsize of living with the cancer. I knew someone that had his colon reconstructed .

  • @JR-bj3uf
    @JR-bj3uf 11 месяцев назад +3

    My mom was 86 years old and very frail. She had a low blood count and had been passing blood. The doctor and his nurse were giving my mom the full court press on a Colonoscopy. I was in the room and told them both flat out "No." I suspected that my mom was popping Tylenol for her back and she actually confessed to taking twice the recommended dosage. I told the doctor that we needed to get her pain medication straightened out and then see. The problem fix itself after that. My mom was from the generation that trusted doctors. I, on the other hand, don't trust them and inch.

    • @richardscathouse
      @richardscathouse 11 месяцев назад

      Tylenol was know trouble even then. I take ibuprofen as needed. 1500mg at a time 😢

    • @bassamsyed
      @bassamsyed 9 месяцев назад

      That’s not on the doctors, that’s on your mom for not telling them what was going on lmao

    • @JR-bj3uf
      @JR-bj3uf 9 месяцев назад

      @@bassamsyedAs I recall the doctor knew but instead opted to sell a procedure that would net him more revenue.

  • @GMAAndy333
    @GMAAndy333 2 года назад +16

    Second rant… I am in the high risk group for breast cancer. They recommend a yearly breast MRI. This involves Gadolinium dye. Gadolinium dye can’t be good for the kidneys or liver. I declined. Eventually a mastectomy would be recommended if cancer was diagnosed. I don’t believe the yearly MRI would change the outcome for better.

    • @sectionalsofa
      @sectionalsofa 2 года назад +1

      @@BenjesBride When I see someone like yourself being influenced by a young, overzealous RUclips doctor who does not know your personal history and is not a breast surgeon or an oncologist I get very concerned. I'm a breast cancer survivor, none in my family, low risk BUT I had it. If you don't trust your own doctor,, shop around. There are millions and some DO consider lifestyle. I will not see a doctor that doesn't consider true prevention. For me that's largely diet and exercise. But I don't ignore screening either. I just try to offset the radiation with proper nutrition and supplementation.

    • @sectionalsofa
      @sectionalsofa 2 года назад

      A screening tool is not prevention it's early detection. I think you're right that an MRI isn't going to prevent cancer. Only lifestyle will. Unfortunately, even if you were to adopt a pristine largely whole food plant based diet and did moderate exercise daily, it would not eradicate all risk, especially since breast cancer tumors take so long to manifest. When I was diagnosed with BC everyone was shocked because I ate so well, took supplements, worked out in the gym, AND was low risk. But 30 years of eating poorly had done it's insidious job.

    • @ImHandlingIt
      @ImHandlingIt 2 года назад +1

      Overdiagnosed is an excellent book on the subject. I highly recommend it to everyone. Especially those who think screening saves lives.

  • @teriturcotte9438
    @teriturcotte9438 2 года назад +6

    Happy thanksgiving dear Dr. You are an amazing gift and affirmation to my gut feelings on our medical system . Just like the banks truck people to make $ so does the medical field. Why are we looking for problems instead of solving the ones right in front of us ? Thanking you for you passion and honesty. You are one brilliant young man blessings ❤

  • @qualm43
    @qualm43 2 года назад +9

    I read your book Ending Medical Reversal a while back and this video is a very fun listen. There's always so many variables that one might think nothing of (the effect of a simple test, for example) and how negatively it MIGHT effect the patient. What a crazy world of data you work in LOL.

  • @aprilanderson2520
    @aprilanderson2520 2 года назад +11

    VP 🙌🏻 you are a rockstar!

  • @wolfwalker5924
    @wolfwalker5924 2 года назад +10

    Insurance companies should give people choice and because they don't they're shooting themselves in the foot cost-wise.Instead of a mammogram or colonoscopy, I would like a MRI for a Bakers cyst to realize the underlying cause or the inflammation. I should have money available from 2 decades of no mammograms or colonoscopies. Walking is essential to maintaining my good blood pressure and positive attitude.

  • @chrisem79
    @chrisem79 3 месяца назад

    Thank You, Dr Prasad, for sharing your expertise and experience 🙏🙏🙏

  • @eldergeektromeo9868
    @eldergeektromeo9868 Год назад +1

    Doc: your studies and opinions are always welcome! Thank You.

  • @dramanexus
    @dramanexus 2 года назад +7

    Thoughtful critiques and jokes. Vinay always brings it.

  • @ElizabethMillerTX
    @ElizabethMillerTX 2 года назад +27

    This is so helpful. I'm in my 50's, no family history of colon cancer, and have one of the Ehlers Danlos Syndromes, which affects the inner skin. Not surprisingly, there are countless stories of perforation and internal injury among the EDS crowd, who has enough GI drama before any interventions. Nevermind the gastroparesis, which makes adequate prep a major challenge. I've never thought colonoscopy makes sense for me, but my (obviously non-EDS aware) docs keep pushing it, anyway. Thanks for this.

    • @alexk48
      @alexk48 2 года назад

      Ask your docs about a Cologuard test.

    • @ElizabethMillerTX
      @ElizabethMillerTX 2 года назад +1

      @@alexk48 I told them that's what I'm doing. But I fear for people with hereditary connective tissue disease that aren't as assertive pains in the ass as I am.

    • @ElizabethMillerTX
      @ElizabethMillerTX 2 года назад

      @@alexk48 Thank you for the very helpful suggestion

    • @springtexan8244
      @springtexan8244 2 года назад +1

      @@alexk48 A plain FIT test is better, less expensive, easier to do. The DNA test got combined with the FIT test for Cologuard since the DNA alone actually isn't as good as the FIT test alone. And then got heavily advertised at a super expensive price. The FIT test involves only brushing the feces with a brush and is way cheaper and way easier.

    • @springtexan8244
      @springtexan8244 2 года назад +3

      I think a FIT test is a better and easier choice than Cologuard, see my other reply. Wasn't aware of the increased perforation risk with your diagnosis, wow, worth knowing about.

  • @mignonowens2350
    @mignonowens2350 2 года назад +3

    I am a pediatric nurse so this is not my area of expertise, BUT, I have had four babies, and like most multi paras I have collected hemorrhoids. FOB will be positive for me for the rest of my life. I’ve have two colonoscopies and I’m done with it. It’s a racket. My brother had a questionable PSA and had DaVinci surgery which caused a neurogenic bladder, and lost function in a kidney. No thank you. Quit nursing. My family bought a small farm , produce our own clean food. I know not everyone can do such a thing, but you can probably find a local farmer. It’s worth it.

  • @goldlotus7831
    @goldlotus7831 2 года назад +14

    What is the age limit for colonoscopy? because I have seen serious problems in 80+ age patients with the preparation protocol before the procedure. Colonoscopy became popular because GI docs got excited and made them super wealthy.

    • @ohsweetmystery
      @ohsweetmystery 2 года назад +2

      My father had seizures from the preliminary prep.

  • @nbrown5907
    @nbrown5907 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you I have realized that eating healthy and exercise will do more for me than anything else. We could shrink our healthcare system if we simply stuck to the truth!

  • @charitybrook6279
    @charitybrook6279 2 года назад +34

    My husbands doctor denied him his medication for ulcerative colitis unless he submitted to yearly colonoscopies. He's 22.
    He couldn't get one last year because he was taking care of me as I had hyperemesis gravidarum during pregnancy with our son. She cut him off.
    So I started having him eat raw ginger root everyday and it has helped him loads more than the medication ever did. That medication was 400 dollars a month btw...

    • @ms-jl6dl
      @ms-jl6dl 2 года назад

      Honey'll do fine too. Maybe a spoon of ginger in a spoon of honey in a tea/smoothie/warm milk?

    • @traceybaldwin6509
      @traceybaldwin6509 2 года назад

      Look up Slippery Elm. It soothes mucosal lining from end to end. It’s good to have on hand. Sounds like the doctor did you a favor-now you’re using healthy cures instead of pharma’s chemical “bandaids”.

    • @charitybrook6279
      @charitybrook6279 2 года назад +1

      @@ms-jl6dl I've never heard of honey being used for UC, have you had success with that? I'll take that into advisement.

    • @tomunderwood4283
      @tomunderwood4283 2 года назад

      Search for Omega 6 and colon cancer.

    • @MelanieStOurs
      @MelanieStOurs 2 года назад

      @@charitybrook6279 UC patient and practicing herbalist here. Honey is useless for UC. (Unless you count the fact that it is one of the safe sweeteners on a diet like the SCD, which works for some people.)

  • @bethstolte7847
    @bethstolte7847 2 года назад +21

    Can you do a video on screening mammograms? I had a bad experience with my second one and really don’t want to do it again (zero family history and I’m 43) but want some numbers to make me feel better about telling my GYN no.
    (Updated to specify it’s screening mammograms I am referring too.

    • @spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069
      @spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069 2 года назад +6

      I have heard that there is a lack of solid evidence for mammograms

    • @sectionalsofa
      @sectionalsofa 2 года назад +7

      My two cents. I felt exactly like you at 45: no family history, and concerned about radiation.I didn't get one for several years but then had some pain (unrelated) but got scared and had a Mamo. A 7mm malignant tumor was found. I had a lumpectomy and radiation (no chemo) and am cancer free for 22 years. Had I put it off longer as planned, the tumor would have grown and who knows what would have happened. So a Memo saved at least one life: mine.

    • @lizbode5127
      @lizbode5127 2 года назад +11

      I have dense breast tissue and mammography is not a good screening tool for me. For the last 8 years, I’ve been getting an annual thermogram from a functional medicine doc. Thermography uses an infrared camera and will show abnormal areas as red in contrast to the normal green/blue.

    • @bethstolte7847
      @bethstolte7847 2 года назад +5

      @@sectionalsofa I guess I meant screening mammograms which is different than having a symptom and getting it checked out. I’m glad the mammo found the tumor and it was removed and you are well now.

    • @rebeccar1036
      @rebeccar1036 2 года назад +4

      The book “Overdiagnosis by Dr. H. Gilbert Welch has a lot of data on preventative screenings and what their true benefit is….

  • @jenniferj939
    @jenniferj939 7 месяцев назад

    My mom always refused colonoscopies. She was scared of them. No symptoms, in fact she was feeling great until around November. She pushed it off until December, until she couldn't handle the pain anymore. She was having blood as well. They thought it was diverticulitis but things were so bad off they couldn't get the scope up through there. Took them 5 months of stupid tests (barium enema, ct scans) before they sent her into surgery and we just found out she has at least stage 3 colon cancer. The tumor imploded and perforated her colon, unfortunately went all over her other organs. We do a ct scan of her chest tomorrow, if it's migrated up there it will be stage 4. At the very least she's going to need chemo. I wish I could have talked her into a preventative scope years ago, we might not be here today.

  • @bernadettelafave4710
    @bernadettelafave4710 2 года назад +4

    By the way, I can't tell you how much I love to listen to you !! ❤️

  • @gregfreisinger5347
    @gregfreisinger5347 2 года назад

    This is one of my favorite channels. Thanks for making these videos and clearly explaining the research.

  • @edithaleicjen
    @edithaleicjen Год назад +1

    I am glad that Dr. Vinay Prasad is outspoken! Its time to stop over screening. Its a waste of resource and should put the resource into healthy food support to many low income people.
    I am agree I don't want that procedure drinking that liquid its ridiculous! Thank you! Your video would help us to educate in the long run.

  • @bebraveindoing869
    @bebraveindoing869 2 года назад +3

    Love to see you report on the research and other things that determined 1) either mammography OR thermography would win the backing - and $$$ - of insurance companies, and 2) that mammo should win. I read the medical journalist reporting series decades ago and was completely shocked when, after all the data was reported, the powers that be cristened the mammography machine (and a smear campaign against thermography ensued, still carrying on today).

  • @frankrizzo2025
    @frankrizzo2025 2 года назад +12

    "There's nothing like money and true belief that is the methamphetamine of being a doctor...it really reinforces the behavior...colonoscopy screening. -Dr. Vinay Prasad

  • @josiepkat
    @josiepkat 2 года назад +15

    When actor Chadwick Boseman died in 2020 the news outlets did HUGE scary stories about how colon cancer is starting to kill young people!! They were advocating for testing earlier in life etc. I was at my doctor's office this week and I was telling him about this and he was saying that he had a patient in the other room flipping out because her cologuard test was positive and now she has to get a colonoscopy. Her reaction to this was to just get a colonoscopy. My husband had bleeding for a LONG time and I couldn't get him in to be tested because he is too afraid. Turns out that he only had hemorrhoids when he finally did the colonoscopy - but they didn't treat them while he was on the table. Instead they woke him up to come back and have ANOTHER procedure.

    • @dedetudor.
      @dedetudor. 2 года назад +5

      Wow!!! And what a typical ending. If that's not about more money I don't know what is.

    • @misfit_pets5731
      @misfit_pets5731 2 года назад +4

      Typically it's a gastroenterology who does a colonoscopy. Its a colo rectal surgeon who does the proceedure for hemeriods. Or a proctologist.

    • @healingfeelings7125
      @healingfeelings7125 2 года назад +7

      They didn’t do anything when they found out it was hemorrhoids because they want to charge the insurance for another procedure! It’s so sad to see how our medical system is more about sick care instead of health care! I think since Covid, we have seen that it’s more about money and big Pharma! Thank God your husband is OK since hemorrhoids are curable ❤️ God bless you and your husband 🙏🙏

    • @dedetudor.
      @dedetudor. 2 года назад +1

      @@misfit_pets5731 yes, I realize you are correct now! Of course!!! That's the way they divide even that area up!

    • @amillerfull
      @amillerfull 2 года назад +5

      If you didn’t consent to band hemorrhoids before the colonoscopy, they’re not allowed to legally perform that after discovering them. You can’t consent for every possible thing for every procedure, besides common things (remove polyps, etc). Majority of hemorrhoids don’t need banding and efficacy of banding is not really standard of care/proven.

  • @kathybrady4033
    @kathybrady4033 2 года назад +10

    Hi Dr. Prasad! What about individuals with a family history of colon cancer in a 1st degree relative? Thanks for your astute analysis!

  • @jodybessner1145
    @jodybessner1145 2 года назад +10

    Dr Prasad, hearing you is quite the education . Thank you

  • @bernadettelafave4710
    @bernadettelafave4710 2 года назад +12

    Thank you, Dr. Prasad !! The only reason anyone does these things are because they have insurance that will cover the procedures and they have been duped. A lot of people are making a lot of money 💲💰. I have never had a mammogram or colonoscopy, and never will !!

    • @wesleycardinal8869
      @wesleycardinal8869 2 года назад +3

      Yes, follow the money.

    • @SuperLovedave
      @SuperLovedave 2 года назад +3

      I agree, if the procedures are covered 100% (or "free") by your insurance then one has to think why? It is obvious that our insurance companies do not have our best interests in mind when the cost to have the Insurance far outweighs the quality of care we receive. And just a side note: most vaccines, if not all, are also covered by insurance. If you don't have insurance the jab is free.

  • @davidwren1000
    @davidwren1000 2 года назад +2

    Wow! I'm going to pay attention to European studies. Thank you!

  • @Soundsaboutright42
    @Soundsaboutright42 2 года назад +40

    Vinay just gives us more reasons not to trust medicine. I hope in another timeline companies and people in medicine aren't in it for just money. What doesn't need a reset? But in a non-WEF style of doing it.

    • @davidsamson1453
      @davidsamson1453 2 года назад +15

      Dr. Prasad gives us so many more reasons to arm ourselves with information and be skeptical of and critically engaging with "established and longstanding" medical wisdom.

    • @Soundsaboutright42
      @Soundsaboutright42 2 года назад +9

      @@davidsamson1453 Well put

    • @jaymorgan8017
      @jaymorgan8017 2 года назад +4

      Amen

    • @frankrizzo2025
      @frankrizzo2025 2 года назад +4

      It need a "non-profit based" incentive structure. It needs an "all cause mortality" metric to judge all clinical interventions, active or passive.

    • @teokl6150
      @teokl6150 2 года назад +2

      @@davidsamson1453 For any significant medical intervention, always seek a second (dissimilar) opinion to obtain a holistic understanding of risks and benefits.

  • @stephenjohn904
    @stephenjohn904 2 года назад +1

    Great article. Goes on to show why health care in the US is becoming more expensive. its all about doing the one procedure that you can bill for the most.

  • @boohoo5750
    @boohoo5750 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for sharing your wisdom! Telling the truth! Saving lives! 👍👍❤️

  • @erepiaddict
    @erepiaddict 2 года назад +4

    Love your passion and truth telling.

  • @irenegriffin3050
    @irenegriffin3050 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for your honesty about all of this! Much appreciated!

  • @ideasmatter4737
    @ideasmatter4737 2 года назад +2

    “As null as it gets, pretty null!” I enjoy that you are both a statistics freak and a low-key comedian!

  • @drmario5942
    @drmario5942 2 года назад

    Here! Here! Well done! Thank you You give me hope that medicine is not dead. You lead by example. Do not loose your ethos.

  • @rgeyser1520
    @rgeyser1520 2 года назад +13

    My father had a negative sigmoidoscopy 3 years before he was diagnosed with stage IV colon cancer in the part of his colon not covered by the sigmoidoscopy. If he had had the full colonoscopy like he wanted , he likely wouldn’t have died from mestasticized colon cancer

    • @jhssuthrnmama
      @jhssuthrnmama Год назад +6

      You have to realize that the evidence for routine screening takes tragedies like these into account AND the tragedies when people die from routine colonoscopies. It turns out that they don't save more lives than they take, but that doesn't deny that some people would have been saved by one, even while an equal or larger number would have been killed by one.

    • @GlobalShutterNY
      @GlobalShutterNY 10 месяцев назад

      Actually all cancers have micro-mets by the time we detect them (there are billions of cancer cells in even a small tumor) - so the eventual outcome is much more likely determined by tumor/host interaction, the underlying biology of the tumor, and response to treatment. That is why early detection is probably of little or no value, as this paper confirms.

    • @rgeyser1520
      @rgeyser1520 10 месяцев назад

      @@GlobalShutterNY Are you actually arguing there is no long-term survival benefit to finding/removing a pre-cancerous polyp (or Stage I cancer) vs finding a Stage IV cancer?

  • @svalentina3075
    @svalentina3075 Год назад +1

    would love to see a video on the lifestyle - medical interventions that you do actually support. Thanks

  • @jeffhamling295
    @jeffhamling295 2 года назад +5

    What about people who fall into a higher-risk category-like colitis? Is the sigmoidoscopy still superior?

  • @corny5128
    @corny5128 2 года назад +1

    Most podcasts I've got to speed up 'cause they talk so slowly, but with Vinay I've actually got to slow the speed down.

  • @OTOWN2STOCKTOWN
    @OTOWN2STOCKTOWN 2 года назад +2

    Prostate cancer patients have more than doubled in my region, compared to figures since a year back

  • @meli66ajg
    @meli66ajg 2 года назад +1

    I think you are brilliant. Thanks for looking out for all of us.

  • @jerrycaddie838
    @jerrycaddie838 8 месяцев назад +2

    I had a legion in my ascending but I still feel regretful 1) Is their trauma regardless caused by such an invasive procedure? 2) Did the doctor just fake a legion just because biopsy is fairly safe and now he can charge me

  • @guildmember100
    @guildmember100 2 года назад

    Dear Dr. Prasad, I am so appreciative of your thorough and informative videos. I have, however, one request. Please, can you slow down your verbal message. Your speech pattern is so rapid for the vital and often complicated subjects you present to your audience. Again, thank you for your enthusiasm, professional integrity, and all your efforts to inform to inform us all

  • @wolfwalker5924
    @wolfwalker5924 2 года назад +7

    If they found cancer or I suspected I had it, I''d do Joe Tippen's Fenbendazole protocol as well as resonance frequency controlled implosions at cancer's specific mortal oscillatory rate. With regard to the latter, I trust the science of physics much more than the art of medicine.

    • @ms-jl6dl
      @ms-jl6dl 2 года назад +1

      Fenbendazole is very similar to Ive*mectin which is used in South Korea against stage IV cancers. LDN might be usefull too together with keto diet (no glucose) or even better-fasting.

    • @wolfwalker5924
      @wolfwalker5924 2 года назад +1

      @@ms-jl6dl The Tippen's Protocol now includes Ivermectin.

    • @happyoutside2558
      @happyoutside2558 2 года назад +1

      Can you point us to a website? Thanks.

  • @chebbohagop
    @chebbohagop 2 года назад +6

    I’m vindicated!! I resisted colonoscopy screening ON PRINCIPLE for 16 years (age 50-66). I only relented and had my first colonoscopy last year to please my PCP. No family history of CRC, no symptoms of anything amiss, but I was one of the millions to undergo general anesthesia and invasive procedure as a “screening” - now I wish I had held out one more year so I could forward Vinay’s podcast to my doctor!!

    • @dawnhoughton4533
      @dawnhoughton4533 2 года назад +1

      I'm cancelling my first one right now. 57 and so thankful for this video.

  • @GlobalShutterNY
    @GlobalShutterNY 11 месяцев назад +2

    I (as a physician) am currently screening myself with Cologaurd - using an invasive surgical procedure and anesthesia for a diagnostic screening always seemed a bit barbaric to me! Glad to see the data supporting my opting out of colonoscopy - intuition proving correct. We will be getting better and better non-invasive screening tests soon which will I believe put the nail in the coffin of the GI-industrial complex that survives off of screening colonoscopies.

  • @techadsr
    @techadsr 2 года назад +17

    What does drinking that gallon of prep do to the GI microbiome?

    • @elizabethstudebaker4483
      @elizabethstudebaker4483 2 года назад +4

      Exactly. Nobody seems to acknowledge this problem.

    • @elizabethstudebaker4483
      @elizabethstudebaker4483 2 года назад +2

      Exactly. Nobody seems to acknowledge this problem.

    • @sassysandie2865
      @sassysandie2865 2 года назад +3

      Screws it up.

    • @garyloewenthal
      @garyloewenthal 2 года назад

      Valid question. I can only give my n=1 thoughts. I eat a very high-fiber diet. Very soon after my colonoscopy, I returned to it. I would think that had a substantial portion of the gut bacteria - which basically feed on the fiber - been destroyed, I would have had substantial troubles with all that fiber (as people who eat little fiber and suddenly ingest a lot often do). But I had no problems. (Actually, n-2; my wife, who eats essentially the same diet, had the same experience). Granted, this is only an anecdote and a theory by a lay person.

  • @nickk6556
    @nickk6556 2 года назад +1

    Incredible content. This is why I subscribed. Thank you as always, Dr. Prasad!

  • @strawberrygirl8572
    @strawberrygirl8572 2 года назад +2

    I agree--but! I just had a colonoscopy, 55 yrs old, no symptoms, routine screening and they found 5 sessile serrated adenomas, all near the cecum. So a sigmoidoscopy wouldn't have found them, right? I've never liked the idea of colonoscopies, the risks, etc, but feel like I'm glad I had one, in spite of the gut distress I'm still experiencing 3 weeks later due to gut biome imbalance now.

  • @lavintella
    @lavintella 2 года назад +5

    Could you please do a review of the benefit on all cause mortality for mammography, please?

  • @gsadow
    @gsadow 2 года назад +5

    As someone who had a colonoscopy planned for the next few weeks, this gives me a lot to discuss with the doctor during the preliminary appointment today. Thanks for this important discussion: medicine should be based on science, not habit and precedent. Have we learned nothing from the fiasco with Ancel Keys?

  • @baxrok2.
    @baxrok2. 2 года назад +3

    The only 'model' that matters is the financial model.

  • @lynnewilley9464
    @lynnewilley9464 2 года назад

    Thanks SO MUCH ! So glad to share no colo for MOI!

  • @cheryljefferson2502
    @cheryljefferson2502 2 года назад +11

    Regular colonoscopies are not part of the screening program in Canada unless it is indicated by symptoms.

    • @rubygreta1
      @rubygreta1 2 года назад +4

      Would love to know the colon cancer rates and colon cancer death rates in the US and Canada. If they are similar, then it's case closed on this colonoscopy obsession we have in the US. Age was recently lowered from 50 to 45.

    • @StephyGrowsWeed
      @StephyGrowsWeed 2 года назад

      @@rubygreta1 in germany (2019) 32 women and 50 men of 100.000 got colon cancer. 10 year survival rate was 62/57%

    • @rubygreta1
      @rubygreta1 2 года назад

      @@StephyGrowsWeed Would be interesting to know what percentage of the men and women who got colon cancer had a family history of colon cancer, or had other associations (obesity, poor diet, inactivity, Crohn's Disease, etc.).
      Does Germany push colonoscopies like they are pushed in the US?

  • @mcneillmama50
    @mcneillmama50 2 года назад +4

    Already hear similar opinion on Dr. Pam poppers blog The Surprising Uselessness of colonoscopy". Also read that the new FIOB home tests have a high rate of false + which means looking at an unnecessary invasive procedure. In my experience as a cardiac telemetry nurse, I've had three elderly patients who suffered perforated bowel and bladder from a botched colonoscopy. I'm 62 and have not consented to a colonoscopy or flex Sig as long as my home test I buy at Walgreens is neg for blood and in four generations no family history of colon rectal cancers. If either of those predictors change I'll consider the least invasive screening exam. Sticking to my high fiber diet and exercise.

    • @GlobalShutterNY
      @GlobalShutterNY 10 месяцев назад

      Cologaurd is my test (I am a physician) - fewer false positives...

  • @rn3333
    @rn3333 2 года назад

    Very good video and very informative. I had 3 colonoscopies' all benign, no family history of colorectal cancer in my family, at the age of 65 I told my GI this is it NO MORE.

  • @רםתמיר
    @רםתמיר 2 года назад +6

    Very interesting. How does family history come into this? Would a family history of colorectal cancer change the benefit/risk calculation?

    • @maryburnett3174
      @maryburnett3174 Год назад

      If you listen to this video he does mention a test for colon cancer that brings down cause specific mortality and all case mortality. It is flexible sigmoidoscopy. (He calls it flex-sig throughout the video) He says it is safer than colonoscopy, there is less prep for the patient and it is the most evidence-based. Also he says one is less likely to miss as many days of work. Of course, if you have a family history, get tested, but I would follow his advice.
      You would have to do a study on those with family history only to see if colonoscopy changes benefit. This study does include those people, and everyone else; it is randomized. Randomization is the best. Flex sig shows benefit, colonoscopy does not.

  • @sassysandie2865
    @sassysandie2865 2 года назад +2

    Dr. Robert Yoho wrote an enlightening book called “Butchered.” The title is quite telling……😮

  • @scottcoston7832
    @scottcoston7832 Год назад +1

    QUESTION: during last 2 colonoscopies, polyps were removed. Does the presence of polyps reflect an increased likelihood of cancer?

  • @ScottPaton
    @ScottPaton 2 года назад +3

    I’ve been thinking this about colonoscopies for decades. Thanks for your usual thoroughness and well thought out commentary. 😊😊

    • @TheFrygar
      @TheFrygar 2 года назад

      You've been thinking about the results of a clinical trial that was just published this year for decades? Where is your time machine?

    • @ScottPaton
      @ScottPaton 2 года назад +2

      @@TheFrygar I have been thinking a colonoscopy doesn’t make much difference, but is very invasive, for decades. This isn’t the first study about colonoscopies. This is the first time I’ve seen a study on long term impacts.

    • @TheFrygar
      @TheFrygar 2 года назад +1

      @@ScottPaton this was the first RCT powered for cause specific AND all cause mortality benefit, that's why this one was so important because it's the first to show NO benefit to ACM.

  • @elizabethsmith6952
    @elizabethsmith6952 2 года назад +11

    Will you do a similar episode for mammograms'?

    • @nicole2828
      @nicole2828 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/paCAc9p_GsQ/видео.html

  • @philkobi5066
    @philkobi5066 2 года назад +1

    Very informative. Nice job calling out USPSTF at 25 min.

  • @keitoth9697
    @keitoth9697 2 года назад

    As usual, another excellent analysis of a research study. Thanks. These podcasts are my morning coffee. :-)

  • @jackievalentino8198
    @jackievalentino8198 2 года назад +5

    You omitted Familial adenotomous polyposis in your paper. Granted it is a small portion of the people who have this gene. But my step-daughter had the fecal occult as a child and it was a pain to get and she had to do it for a week . Not one sign of cancer. But when I questioned the family dr about my son at 16 getting his first colonoscopy because If you wait you die usually by 35. His sister is 7 years older than him and decided to get hers done well she had it. she gets flex sigs now since she has no colon. and a J pouch.

    • @fjoiewafno
      @fjoiewafno 2 года назад +4

      Sorry to hear about your situation. However screening recommendations for the general population and those with family history shouldn't be the same.

    • @jackievalentino8198
      @jackievalentino8198 2 года назад

      @@fjoiewafno I am not saying they should be just that it should be mentioned that hereditary ones this wouldn't be the same.

    • @brook7365
      @brook7365 2 года назад

      My husband and daughter have this. Possibly my other two children. They haven’t been tested yet. Colonoscopy is recommended starting around age 8-10.

  • @sarasamson5922
    @sarasamson5922 2 года назад +17

    In my 40s I had IBS so I was told to get a colonoscopy. I've always had a low blood pressure, the prep wiped out my electrolytes, so on the table my BP was too low (barely 80/50) to get anesthesia. I told them proceed without it but they wouldn't. I got sent home with a 24-hr heart monitor and nuclear stress testing. Verdict: 'athlete's heart'. Haven't ever had a colonoscopy yet. IBS lessened when I finally got treated for low thyroid. Now in my 50s I'm told I need one so I get the stool test, also inconclusive so far.

    • @carl13579
      @carl13579 2 года назад +1

      In some states in the US, anesthesia is the norm for colonoscopy, so much so that it is hard to find a doctor that will do it without it. But in other states, anesthesia is the exception.

    • @foggylog19
      @foggylog19 2 года назад

      Wow. I have also had low BP, but I guess it may depend on what it was pre op. I just once had an anesthetist say oh well I won't worry till your BP is below 70/45, based off my baseline well bp of 90/50. But if your hr was up I can see why they may be worried

  • @dinaarmeni2674
    @dinaarmeni2674 2 года назад +3

    I love this channel