Yeah that was wild. It's one thing to change your mind, whatever she has that right, but to tell him to get a vasectomy? Bish you're outta your damn mind. Immediate divorce after that statement (on top of changing her mind about kids).
Yes, they are all for "my body, my choice... " But you oh, we can tell you what to do! I hope you enjoy your freedom and loneliness. Your right you should not be mother. You should withdraw from the genetic pool.
My wife and I never planned a family. A son and a daughter arrived naturally in our lives. And we did not have money at the time. I never understood why people are waiting for a right moment to have children. The right moment is today, and God will provide.
The thing I found at fault here was that she didn’t want kids now, but she wanted him to get snipped. Also she could have spoken up sooner when her life view changed. That her views on children changed is one thing, that she just expected him to blindly follow “out of love”, was truly asinine.
Same happened to me. I was lucky she was just my fiancé. The moment she started her femenazi tirade, i walked away and never saw or spoke to her again. My lesson: Never discard who your spouse is surrounding herself with.
I had something similar happen to me as well. My ex was always a bit of a feminist, but she went deeper into it after going to UC Berkeley (yeah go figure). She had an abortion 2 months into her pregnancy and tried to hide it from me. It slipped out from her sister somehow, and I was hurt and disgusted. Her justifications just pissed me off more and killed whatever love I had for her left.
@blacksunday4231 you dodge a bullet there brother. Don't let them breed. Don't date, don't engage or marry, and most certainly don't have children with.
Rachel was just telling him what he wanted to hear about having kids and she thought she could talk ĥìm out of wanted kids and now she get to watch Rick have a better life without her
Errors to avoid: 1) Failing to discuss doubts and thoughts about agreed upon goals with your spouse. 2) Failing to bring your spouse into discussions early and often when your goals change. 3) Deciding that your goals have changed prior bringing your spouse into such discussions. Being "happy without kids" is like "being happy without a husband."
She gave the signal of "feeling restless" precursor to and affair... routine. She had mentally already checked out. If he gone thru with vasectomy, then it would have been well i need to see other's... to feel alive again. Hold your line...never give and inch on your personal limits. He wanted kids... find one that does also and leave. She made her choice...without consideration of your feelings or thoughts. Leave no explanation needed.
It always amazes me how much women will cope to each other. These same women are gonna be the ones on anti-depressants, with a bunch of cats, and drinking box wine when they hit their 40s/50s.
No joke...see them all the time. Women for the most part cave to peer pressure. So observe her friends and family. If she is hanging with a bunch of "man haters " as friends or family....walk away. She may be an M.R.A. but she will listen to the group, and become one. Its biology...
This happened to a friend. The wife got into crystals, star signs, feminism and all. She started treating him like shite and talking bad about him to the kids. They divorced soon after.
Let's be real here: if the wife wants the husband to get a vasectomy instead of tying her own tubes, then it's not about not having kids. She still wants those. She just doesn't want them with her (current) husband!
Since she didn't want kids. She should have been the one to get fixed. That way she won't have to worry about getting pregnant. This woman is totally selfish
Okay, so motherhood is not for her. Why, in the name of all things unholy, does that mean that he has to get a vasectomy? Did she skip sex-ed classes? Does she not realize that there are multiple ways to avoid an unwanted pregnancy? Her demand that he got a vasectomy sounded more like she essentially wanted to have him branded. In other words, he has to end his chances of having his own children to be with her, and her alone, forever. If she doesn't want to have children then so be it. He does, and he'll be able to do that with a woman who shares his goals for life. Her outrageous demand was both irrational and incredibly selfish.
Her reasoning was that if he is UNABLE to have children, he won't leave her for a woman who WILL be his "baby mama." It's control - to KILL his dream and keep him with her.
@@chrisclark5204 In fairness, a vasectomy involves minor surgery, takes 30 minutes with a local anaesthetic, and is completely reversible in almost every case. A hysterectomy is a highly invasive major surgery, requires removal of the uterus, takes months or even years recover from, and of course is completely irreversible. So, not really a fair comparison.
@@richardcox4413 Actually - no. According to both the Mayo Clinic and the British NHS, a successful reversibility is HIGHLY variable, the greatest variable being time. By 3 years post - success rates are only around 50%. By 10 years post, 25%. Longer than that, less than 10%. And a hysterectomy is not done for pregnancy prevention - tubal ligation is. A far less invasive technique than hysterectomy. And ligation is as reversible as a vasectomy with the same approximate percentages of successful pregnancy post reversal based on the same reasons for complication - according to the Cleveland Clinic approx 50 to 80% successful pregnancy after ligation reversal. So with time female tubal ligation is actually more reversible male vasectomy. Be that as it may, the point is that with modern technology, both are equally viable and both are equally reversible with the same highly variable rates of successful reversal. While one is more invasive in that it requires a short same day surgery vs a local, both are totally comparable as to what they do and how they can be reserved in 2024.
The good old feminist bait and switch. Always keep an eye out for the mention of anything feminist while dating. Run if you see any feminism in your girlfriend at all.
Why does he have to do anything? If she really doesn't want kids, she can get surgery herself, this is about control. She can still leave if he is weak enough to comply.
Oh! Fun fact: when a woman's "woman parts" - a.k.a. her ovaries & womb - are removed, the reason it's called a "hysterectomy" is because the word "hysterics" is what they USED to call PMS. So, it was thought - & correctly, though not for the reasons they thought at the time - that to remove the reproductive organs (The v@ginal opening is a gateway to the reporductive organs - a.k.a. the womb & ovaries - not really a reproductive "organ" in itself.) would remove the source of the hysterical behavior. Thus, "hysterectomy." Translated as "Removal of Hysteria."
I hear stories like this and they hit too close to home. I think that a lot of people listening to these kind of stories know or can relate to some woman who was easily manipulated by feminism. In the feminist manifesto, one of the objectives is to destroy the nuclear family. Ask any woman in her thirties who'd followed, or is still following feminism who wanted children, about how she's doing. They usually have a cat...
Oh, the common bait and switch. Where's Charlie Brown? She knew from the beginning of their relationship that she didn't want kids but played him perfectly to achieve her wedding goal. Good for him to leave her deceitful behind.
Grounds for divorce, they both had an agreement early on, she pulled the good ol bait and switch. and FYI women, single/divorced women, misery lDOES INDEED Love company, they absolutely HATE HATE HATE women who have so's and have children and that IS FACT.
I understand Op's reaction. He was blindsided by her saying she doesn't want kids. She changed (although some would argue feminist influences helped shape that change of attitude) and tried to be honest with him. I don't blame his anger, but you can't force someone to do something against their will. I see both sides of this.
If you want kids and she doesn't. That is. deal breaker. Dump her butt and more on. Find someone that wants the same things as you. Sucks that she pulled the bait and switch on him, but only lost 3 years to this witch.
No, you don't love him! You want to destroy him, that's not love, it's selfish! You broke your marriage and if you loved him, you would want his child!
The guy from the bar nailed it. By all means keep coloring your hair unnaturally so we can identify you. It's nature's way of telling us that something is toxic.
"I don't date feminist hotheads" 😂😂. Neither do I
Single women keep women single.
and misery loves company
Absolutely. Single women are experts at making women in relationships single.
@@WeatherStonesingle women are the happiest
That story is fake
They had an understanding that he wanted kids. She agrees then changes her mind and wants him sterilize. Those are grounds for divorce.
Yeah that was wild. It's one thing to change your mind, whatever she has that right, but to tell him to get a vasectomy? Bish you're outta your damn mind. Immediate divorce after that statement (on top of changing her mind about kids).
Actually that is grounds for annullment..... married under false pretenses.
Yup! Yup! Yup! Get an annulment!
So why didn't she volunteer to get her tubes tied? This was not about freedom but control, the control she felt entitled to his body.
She thought she had him wrapped around her finger.
Yes, they are all for "my body, my choice... " But you oh, we can tell you what to do! I hope you enjoy your freedom and loneliness. Your right you should not be mother. You should withdraw from the genetic pool.
My wife and I never planned a family. A son and a daughter arrived naturally in our lives. And we did not have money at the time. I never understood why people are waiting for a right moment to have children. The right moment is today, and God will provide.
The thing I found at fault here was that she didn’t want kids now, but she wanted him to get snipped. Also she could have spoken up sooner when her life view changed. That her views on children changed is one thing, that she just expected him to blindly follow “out of love”, was truly asinine.
Same happened to me. I was lucky she was just my fiancé. The moment she started her femenazi tirade, i walked away and never saw or spoke to her again. My lesson: Never discard who your spouse is surrounding herself with.
I believe the word you were aiming for is "dis-REGARD," not "discard."
I had something similar happen to me as well. My ex was always a bit of a feminist, but she went deeper into it after going to UC Berkeley (yeah go figure). She had an abortion 2 months into her pregnancy and tried to hide it from me. It slipped out from her sister somehow, and I was hurt and disgusted. Her justifications just pissed me off more and killed whatever love I had for her left.
@blacksunday4231 you dodge a bullet there brother. Don't let them breed. Don't date, don't engage or marry, and most certainly don't have children with.
I agree, but if she does. Leave her...
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 Feminism is not about equality you need to go study it thoroughly they are men haters and destroyers of humanity.
If she doesn't want kids, she should feel free to get fixed while the divorce is going on.
Notice she didn't say anything about that. They never do. I won't change my body... but you should it easy and less expensive. But them no...
It's crazy how she just flipped a switch and changed like that good for him moving on
Rachel was just telling him what he wanted to hear about having kids and she thought she could talk ĥìm out of wanted kids and now she get to watch Rick have a better life without her
Exactly, no one changes their mind like that in just 3 years . She lied to get him to marry her.
Errors to avoid:
1) Failing to discuss doubts and thoughts about agreed upon goals with your spouse.
2) Failing to bring your spouse into discussions early and often when your goals change.
3) Deciding that your goals have changed prior bringing your spouse into such discussions.
Being "happy without kids" is like "being happy without a husband."
She gave the signal of "feeling restless" precursor to and affair... routine. She had mentally already checked out.
If he gone thru with vasectomy, then it would have been well i need to see other's... to feel alive again.
Hold your line...never give and inch on your personal limits.
He wanted kids... find one that does also and leave. She made her choice...without consideration of your feelings or thoughts.
Leave no explanation needed.
It always amazes me how much women will cope to each other. These same women are gonna be the ones on anti-depressants, with a bunch of cats, and drinking box wine when they hit their 40s/50s.
No joke...see them all the time. Women for the most part cave to peer pressure. So observe her friends and family. If she is hanging with a bunch of "man haters " as friends or family....walk away. She may be an M.R.A. but she will listen to the group, and become one. Its biology...
Best case scenario
No manchild who can't wash his own underwear with his weaponized incompetence
Single women are happier than single men😊
This happened to a friend. The wife got into crystals, star signs, feminism and all. She started treating him like shite and talking bad about him to the kids. They divorced soon after.
Let's be real here: if the wife wants the husband to get a vasectomy instead of tying her own tubes, then it's not about not having kids. She still wants those. She just doesn't want them with her (current) husband!
And why would she tie herself?
Since she didn't want kids. She should have been the one to get fixed. That way she won't have to worry about getting pregnant. This woman is totally selfish
Okay, so motherhood is not for her. Why, in the name of all things unholy, does that mean that he has to get a vasectomy? Did she skip sex-ed classes? Does she not realize that there are multiple ways to avoid an unwanted pregnancy? Her demand that he got a vasectomy sounded more like she essentially wanted to have him branded. In other words, he has to end his chances of having his own children to be with her, and her alone, forever. If she doesn't want to have children then so be it. He does, and he'll be able to do that with a woman who shares his goals for life. Her outrageous demand was both irrational and incredibly selfish.
Her reasoning was that if he is UNABLE to have children, he won't leave her for a woman who WILL be his "baby mama." It's control - to KILL his dream and keep him with her.
It's always the women wanting the man to get a vasectomy, never the women getting a hysterectomy.
@@chrisclark5204 In fairness, a vasectomy involves minor surgery, takes 30 minutes with a local anaesthetic, and is completely reversible in almost every case. A hysterectomy is a highly invasive major surgery, requires removal of the uterus, takes months or even years recover from, and of course is completely irreversible. So, not really a fair comparison.
@@richardcox4413 Actually - no. According to both the Mayo Clinic and the British NHS, a successful reversibility is HIGHLY variable, the greatest variable being time. By 3 years post - success rates are only around 50%. By 10 years post, 25%. Longer than that, less than 10%.
And a hysterectomy is not done for pregnancy prevention - tubal ligation is. A far less invasive technique than hysterectomy. And ligation is as reversible as a vasectomy with the same approximate percentages of successful pregnancy post reversal based on the same reasons for complication - according to the Cleveland Clinic approx 50 to 80% successful pregnancy after ligation reversal. So with time female tubal ligation is actually more reversible male vasectomy.
Be that as it may, the point is that with modern technology, both are equally viable and both are equally reversible with the same highly variable rates of successful reversal. While one is more invasive in that it requires a short same day surgery vs a local, both are totally comparable as to what they do and how they can be reserved in 2024.
True but his body his choice, just like her body her choice@@richardcox4413
"If you really love me you would ... " is straight manipulation. But it's easily countered with "if you really love me you wouldn't ask."
Those feminist women aren't happy they're lonely and single and bitter they're coping save your life is more "fun"
The good old feminist bait and switch. Always keep an eye out for the mention of anything feminist while dating. Run if you see any feminism in your girlfriend at all.
Of all the ridiculous reasons not to want kids. "Society expects it of us. We have to fight this oppression " smh
Why does he have to do anything? If she really doesn't want kids, she can get surgery herself, this is about control. She can still leave if he is weak enough to comply.
Oh! Fun fact: when a woman's "woman parts" - a.k.a. her ovaries & womb - are removed, the reason it's called a "hysterectomy" is because the word "hysterics" is what they USED to call PMS. So, it was thought - & correctly, though not for the reasons they thought at the time - that to remove the reproductive organs (The v@ginal opening is a gateway to the reporductive organs - a.k.a. the womb & ovaries - not really a reproductive "organ" in itself.) would remove the source of the hysterical behavior. Thus, "hysterectomy." Translated as "Removal of Hysteria."
I hear stories like this and they hit too close to home. I think that a lot of people listening to these kind of stories know or can relate to some woman who was easily manipulated by feminism. In the feminist manifesto, one of the objectives is to destroy the nuclear family. Ask any woman in her thirties who'd followed, or is still following feminism who wanted children, about how she's doing. They usually have a cat...
If any woman *EVER* say:"if you love me", I'm making an appointment with dentist for her.
One more cat mom
Oh, the common bait and switch. Where's Charlie Brown? She knew from the beginning of their relationship that she didn't want kids but played him perfectly to achieve her wedding goal. Good for him to leave her deceitful behind.
So lets see, did her "Friends" tell her this might lead to being single again? Of course not, they hate men and marriage.
Grounds for divorce, they both had an agreement early on, she pulled the good ol bait and switch. and FYI women, single/divorced women, misery lDOES INDEED Love company, they absolutely HATE HATE HATE women who have so's and have children and that IS FACT.
In todays world, no way i would want a child. Not fair to the child.
I understand Op's reaction. He was blindsided by her saying she doesn't want kids. She changed (although some would argue feminist influences helped shape that change of attitude) and tried to be honest with him. I don't blame his anger, but you can't force someone to do something against their will. I see both sides of this.
Wait until they get the ring then true face is shown
Lmmao 😅😅😅😅 good job Rachel
Feminist book club? That's the end of your marriage right there!
If a wife refuses to be submissive, it's Better to just end the marriage!
Women - Listen to what I want
Men. - Sorry, I don't think you know what you want 😂
If you want kids and she doesn't. That is. deal breaker. Dump her butt and more on. Find someone that wants the same things as you. Sucks that she pulled the bait and switch on him, but only lost 3 years to this witch.
No, you don't love him! You want to destroy him, that's not love, it's selfish!
You broke your marriage and if you loved him, you would want his child!
She mind as well get a couple of cats for companionship for the rest of her life. When somebody fumble a good person, they tend not to bounce back.
The guy from the bar nailed it. By all means keep coloring your hair unnaturally so we can identify you. It's nature's way of telling us that something is toxic.
Cats and Dried Eggs. Go Feminism.
She will be a 40 yo cat lady....destined to eat TV dinners on Thanksgiving and Christmas
Cray-cray
Second!