If you are interested in an in-depth historical and theological treatment of the Crucifixion and the events leading up to it pick up Dr.Jeannie Constantinou's excellent book which can be found below ⬇️ store.ancientfaith.com/the-crucifixion-of-the-king-of-glory/
I am working my way through her book on the crucifixion during great and holy lent! I am very excited to be wrapping it up during holy week! I love everything about the orthodox church! Dr. Jeannie is a wonderful teacher
This beautiful channel never never disappoints! Thank you Luther and Fr. Jonathan for everything that you do. I had the immense pleasure of taking a course (Early Christianity) with Dr. Constantinou here in San Diego back in my college years--she is just incredible, both as a person and as a theologian and teacher of our glorious Orthodox faith. Glory to IC XC for ALL things. ☦
Orthodox Tradition maintains Truth through the Biblical Principles of enduring consensus that Scripture defines as being pleasing to the Holy Spirit. The voices of the many that Fr. Panayiotis Papageorgiou refer to is the continued fingerprint of the Holy Spirits involvement in the Body Of Christ. The early first and second century and even the third century Church Fathers experienced the complete, complex, Historical and Cultural Context of Scripture. “Tradition” is merely devotion to this fact. They trusted the authority of the Holy Spirit. The Papacy wrestled that authority away from the Holy Spirit and gave it to the Pope. The Protestant Reformers took it from the Pope and gave it to themselves and American Evangelicalism took it and gave it to anyone with a Bible and Opinion who lacks the fear of God to use it. Thank you and Kalo Pascha.
Haha, that picture of the Pope with his finger up to his mouth like he's saying, "Shhh, Dr. Constantinou, you're saying the quiet part out loud." Lol!😂😂😂
Forgive me for asking, but at 9:16, why are you using a version of icon of St. Luke from "Monastery icons"? They are part of a spiritually synchrotistic cult/brotherhood. They don't even pretend to be Orthodox. It could confuse your viewers when they see this icon, and others by this merchant, and assume they are reputable. Since we are living an incarnational faith, and the icons that we venerate are a confirmation of this faith, if we are receiving these icons from those who are problematic, involved in demonic acts, or are against the Gospel of Christ, then it stands to reason to reject that purveyor of icons. There are some articles about this merchant in the orthosphere. It might be good to read them. Please forgive me if I caused any offense. Blessed Holy Week!
@@TheTransfiguredLife I didn't think you were. But, whenever I see it, I call it out. Not to be mean, but because I truly believe in the incarnation, and that the Orthodox Church is the ark of Salvation, and I know many others do too.
Thanks for bringing this up--this issue is simply not on the radar of a lot of people, and the company has been *very* slippery in covering their tracks again and again, so it's always worth mentioning to spread the word.
The Orthodox Church doesn’t use the word “victim” to describe Christ on the cross? Really? Dr Constantinou wasn’t paying very close attention to the Triodion prayers this year! See Sunday of Last Judgement, Vespers, Tone Eight; Saturday in First Week, Canticle One; Saturday of the Akathistos, Canticle Three. There’s others too.
“For the whole human race will be found to be under a curse. For it is written in the law of Moses, ‘Cursed is everyone that continues not in all things that are written in the book of the law to do them’… If then, the Father of all wished His Christ for the whole human family to take upon Him the curses of all, knowing that after He had been crucified and was dead He would raise Him up, why do you argue about Him who submitted to suffer these things according to the Father’s will as if He were accursed, and do not rather bewail yourselves? For although His Father caused Him to suffer these things in behalf of the human family, yet you did not commit the deed as in obedience to the will of god.” - Justin Martyr Dialogue with Trypho 95
What's not to understand. It is a curse to be hung on a tree. The Perfect Lamb became a curse with the sins of the world thrown upon Him and God raised Jesus from the dead and made Him Lord of lords and King of kings. You Must be Born Again. Pray to God in the name of the Lord Jesus for the forgiveness of your sins and ask to be filled with the Holy Spirit so you can bear good fruit and do God's will. Amen.
When a man has fallen it is not possible for him to be raised by human power, nor can human evil be destroyed by human righteousness. The commission of sin involves injury to God Himself, for it says “you dishonour God by breaking the law (Rom. 2:23). There is need of virtue greater than is found in man to be able to cancel the indictment. For the lower it is particularly easy to commit an injury against Him who is greatest. Yet it is impossible for him to compensate for this insolence by any honor, particularly when he is in many ways indebted to He, whom he has injured, and He who is injured is so far superior that the distance between them cannot even be measured. He, then, who seeks to cancel the indictment against himself must restore the honour to Him who has been insulted and repay more than he owes, partly by way of restitution, partly by adding a compensation for the wrong which he has done. Yet how can he who is unable even to attain to the measure of his debts succeed in surpassing it? It was therefore impossible for any man to reconcile himself to God by introducing his own righteousness. Accordingly, neither could the old law overcome enmity or would the unaided efforts of those who line under the new be capable of achieving peace…Wherefore, since we by our own means and of ourselves were unable to display righteousness, Christ Himself became for us “righteousness from God and consecration and redemption (1 Cor. 1:30). He destroys the enmity in His flesh and reconciles us to God. This he accomplishes not merely by sharing our nature, nor was it only when He died for us, but at all times and for every man…He alone, then was able to render all the honour that is due to the Father and make satisfaction for that which had been taken away. The former He achieved by His life, the latter by His death. The death which He died upon the cross to the Father’s glory He brought in to outweigh the injury which we had committed; in addition, He most abundantly made amends for the debt of honour which we owed for our sins. - **St. Nicholas Cabasilas, The Life in Christ, Excursus - Christ’s atoning work**
She's saying that God is not *compelled* to do anything, emphasizing that Christ's death was a voluntary sacrifice made out of love. I didn't hear her speculate on alternatives though, and I haven't read her book yet, but I'm fairly confident she could keep on talking for another few hours and eventually cover the subject 😂
@@Sofiart200and yet at the same time as we don't focus quite as much on the nativity, we talk more about the importance of the incarnation itself than I've encountered in any other tradition...
@@Sofiart200 @Sofiart200 Clarity is key here. Is God in obligation to His creation when He voluntarily commits himself? Obligation and voluntarily will are not mutually exclusive when properly understood. Hebrews 6:13 says God "swore by Himself."
Jesus died for his everlasting covenant of Hebrews 13:20, brought in at the Cross as Hebrews 9:22. There was no atonement at the Cross, just a victory over death, so that Jesus could sacrifice his life to become our Judge and therefore Saviour. I have a Ytube video series 'Myths in so-called Christianity' to expose false teaching of the NT.
Her book Thinking Orthodox caused a few folks I know to almost apostatize due to incorrect information. I highly recommend staying away from her content.
@@manuelquelle9915what incorrect information? Genuinely curious. I’ve heard her talk on this subject a few times and on the Phronema of the Church and I don’t recall hearing anything concerning, rather the opposite, very edifying. What has she said that would lead people to apostatize?
See the other comments. Specifically regarding your claim about her wearing a cassock…people are saying that is a false claim and that it was a CHOIR ROBE. Careful about slandering people. Also, you know her husband is a priest right?
Of course Jesus was baptised with the Spirit so he could go to heaven. As John 3:13 no man has ascended to heaven with the Spirit taking him, even Jesus the Son of God.
The very first picture of Jesus Christ on the cross and at 36:50, is considered blasphemous. Jesus abdominal muscles are depicted to represent something other than the abdominal muscles. This gets even more aggressive in other pictures of Jesus. I haven't listened to this video, only commenting on the first painting I saw that you displayed and I hope you never show these false depictions of Jesus Christ's abdominal muscles again. We should also be seeing His most grievous shoulder wound that laid bare and splintered Jesus ' bone 🌹✝️🌹
@@TheTransfiguredLife Really? You haven't looked at some of them, have you. Older paintings of Jesus on the Cross in no way show dominant abdominal muscles and before saying, nonsense, I suggest you look through paintings because it's acutely obvious.
If you are interested in an in-depth historical and theological treatment of the Crucifixion and the events leading up to it pick up Dr.Jeannie Constantinou's excellent book which can be found below ⬇️
store.ancientfaith.com/the-crucifixion-of-the-king-of-glory/
I could listen to Dr Jeannie all day.
same here we learn so much and even to remind us of our faith which come down all the way through very far generation but yet are so real!!
I am working my way through her book on the crucifixion during great and holy lent! I am very excited to be wrapping it up during holy week! I love everything about the orthodox church! Dr. Jeannie is a wonderful teacher
Dr. Jeannie is a spitfire as always. Great talk, very informative.
Wow! This was fascinating, thanks for sharing.
It's so refreshing to hear a Ph.D Bible scholar not sound like the typical higher criticism agnostic deconstructionist "Bible scholar".
Too bad she’s such a goober!
This beautiful channel never never disappoints! Thank you Luther and Fr. Jonathan for everything that you do. I had the immense pleasure of taking a course (Early Christianity) with Dr. Constantinou here in San Diego back in my college years--she is just incredible, both as a person and as a theologian and teacher of our glorious Orthodox faith. Glory to IC XC for ALL things. ☦
Thanks for those kind words brother. Dr.Constantinou is an excellent scholar! ☦️
God bless you for this video. It's so refreshing to hear this.
Always great to see Dr Jeannie ❤
(She must be one of the easiest interviews out there, just turn on her mic and let her go, lol)
Love the format. You ask great questions…sit back and let your guest speak freely without a lot of interruptions from the host. Wonderful!
Dr. JEANNINE IS 🔥!! SHES ON IT
She doesn't miss fam! 🎯🎯
Orthodoxy is the one and true church of God ❤
Amen! The same faith of the Apostles! ☦❤
You got that right ✅️
@luther I'm so glad to see more African Americans like myself and my best friend in the orthodox church
@@Athanasius1975 Amen! What a blessing to see. The church is growing in every way! ☦️
@TheTransfiguredLife it's a blessing, I've been orthodox for 16 years now 17 this fall
Orthodox Tradition maintains Truth through the Biblical Principles of enduring consensus that Scripture defines as being pleasing to the Holy Spirit. The voices of the many that Fr. Panayiotis Papageorgiou refer to is the continued fingerprint of the Holy Spirits involvement in the Body Of Christ. The early first and second century and even the third century Church Fathers experienced the complete, complex, Historical and Cultural Context of Scripture. “Tradition” is merely devotion to this fact. They trusted the authority of the Holy Spirit. The Papacy wrestled that authority away from the Holy Spirit and gave it to the Pope. The Protestant Reformers took it from the Pope and gave it to themselves and American Evangelicalism took it and gave it to anyone with a Bible and Opinion who lacks the fear of God to use it. Thank you and Kalo Pascha.
Evangelism took it and gave it to ..ionism.
Haha, that picture of the Pope with his finger up to his mouth like he's saying, "Shhh, Dr. Constantinou, you're saying the quiet part out loud." Lol!😂😂😂
Anyone else hear the machine gun going off? I don’t think I’ve ever heard so many shots fired so rapidly, outside an action movie.
Haha I love Dr.Jeannie. She always ready to keep it real! 💯💯
☦️☦️☦️
Forgive me for asking, but at 9:16, why are you using a version of icon of St. Luke from "Monastery icons"? They are part of a spiritually synchrotistic cult/brotherhood. They don't even pretend to be Orthodox.
It could confuse your viewers when they see this icon, and others by this merchant, and assume they are reputable.
Since we are living an incarnational faith, and the icons that we venerate are a confirmation of this faith, if we are receiving these icons from those who are problematic, involved in demonic acts, or are against the Gospel of Christ, then it stands to reason to reject that purveyor of icons.
There are some articles about this merchant in the orthosphere. It might be good to read them.
Please forgive me if I caused any offense.
Blessed Holy Week!
Had no intentions of endorsing this particular merchant. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Blessed Holy Week to you as well! ☦️
@@TheTransfiguredLife I didn't think you were. But, whenever I see it, I call it out. Not to be mean, but because I truly believe in the incarnation, and that the Orthodox Church is the ark of Salvation, and I know many others do too.
Thanks for bringing this up--this issue is simply not on the radar of a lot of people, and the company has been *very* slippery in covering their tracks again and again, so it's always worth mentioning to spread the word.
@@sempelpang AND, they are always the top google result when one is searching for icons.
@@St.MartinofToursPrayToGodForUs Yes! All the icons of post-schism Western saints probably give them quite a boost as well.
I did NOT expect roblox OOF over Dr. Constantinou. 😅
The Orthodox Church doesn’t use the word “victim” to describe Christ on the cross? Really?
Dr Constantinou wasn’t paying very close attention to the Triodion prayers this year! See Sunday of Last Judgement, Vespers, Tone Eight; Saturday in First Week, Canticle One; Saturday of the Akathistos, Canticle Three. There’s others too.
what about the dead sea scrolls ?
“For the whole human race will be found to be under a curse. For it is written in the law of Moses, ‘Cursed is everyone that continues not in all things that are written in the book of the law to do them’… If then, the Father of all wished His Christ for the whole human family to take upon Him the curses of all, knowing that after He had been crucified and was dead He would raise Him up, why do you argue about Him who submitted to suffer these things according to the Father’s will as if He were accursed, and do not rather bewail yourselves? For although His Father caused Him to suffer these things in behalf of the human family, yet you did not commit the deed as in obedience to the will of god.” - Justin Martyr Dialogue with Trypho 95
What's not to understand. It is a curse to be hung on a tree. The Perfect Lamb became a curse with the sins of the world thrown upon Him and God raised Jesus from the dead and made Him Lord of lords and King of kings.
You Must be Born Again.
Pray to God in the name of the Lord Jesus for the forgiveness of your sins and ask to be filled with the Holy Spirit so you can bear good fruit and do God's will. Amen.
What is the true understanding of 1 timothy 2:12?
Isnt this lady the one who dressed up like a priest?
Are comments moderated on here?
Well, we SEE them and usually let people post their heart-felt comments unless they insult Christ and the Holy Orthodox Church.
When a man has fallen it is not possible for him to be raised by human power, nor can human evil be destroyed by human righteousness. The commission of sin involves injury to God Himself, for it says “you dishonour God by breaking the law (Rom. 2:23). There is need of virtue greater than is found in man to be able to cancel the indictment. For the lower it is particularly easy to commit an injury against Him who is greatest. Yet it is impossible for him to compensate for this insolence by any honor, particularly when he is in many ways indebted to He, whom he has injured, and He who is injured is so far superior that the distance between them cannot even be measured. He, then, who seeks to cancel the indictment against himself must restore the honour to Him who has been insulted and repay more than he owes, partly by way of restitution, partly by adding a compensation for the wrong which he has done. Yet how can he who is unable even to attain to the measure of his debts succeed in surpassing it? It was therefore impossible for any man to reconcile himself to God by introducing his own righteousness. Accordingly, neither could the old law overcome enmity or would the unaided efforts of those who line under the new be capable of achieving peace…Wherefore, since we by our own means and of ourselves were unable to display righteousness, Christ Himself became for us “righteousness from God and consecration and redemption (1 Cor. 1:30). He destroys the enmity in His flesh and reconciles us to God. This he accomplishes not merely by sharing our nature, nor was it only when He died for us, but at all times and for every man…He alone, then was able to render all the honour that is due to the Father and make satisfaction for that which had been taken away. The former He achieved by His life, the latter by His death. The death which He died upon the cross to the Father’s glory He brought in to outweigh the injury which we had committed; in addition, He most abundantly made amends for the debt of honour which we owed for our sins. - **St. Nicholas Cabasilas, The Life in Christ, Excursus - Christ’s atoning work**
Is she saying that Christ's death was not necessary?
Of course not
She's saying that God is not *compelled* to do anything, emphasizing that Christ's death was a voluntary sacrifice made out of love. I didn't hear her speculate on alternatives though, and I haven't read her book yet, but I'm fairly confident she could keep on talking for another few hours and eventually cover the subject 😂
@@Sofiart200and yet at the same time as we don't focus quite as much on the nativity, we talk more about the importance of the incarnation itself than I've encountered in any other tradition...
@@Sofiart200 @Sofiart200 Clarity is key here. Is God in obligation to His creation when He voluntarily commits himself? Obligation and voluntarily will are not mutually exclusive when properly understood. Hebrews 6:13 says God "swore by Himself."
Yet these "obligations" are freely self-imposed and not a result of some one other some outside force on God.
Jesus died for his everlasting covenant of Hebrews 13:20, brought in at the Cross as Hebrews 9:22. There was no atonement at the Cross, just a victory over death, so that Jesus could sacrifice his life to become our Judge and therefore Saviour.
I have a Ytube video series 'Myths in so-called Christianity' to expose false teaching of the NT.
Lurking Orthodox priest would like to warn Dr Jeanne to beware of Macedonians bearing compliments.
Constantinou is a neo-Pelagiast. There’s also photos of her in a black cassock with a pectoral cross around her neck giving a sermon from the lectern.
Her book Thinking Orthodox caused a few folks I know to almost apostatize due to incorrect information. I highly recommend staying away from her content.
@@manuelquelle9915what incorrect information? Genuinely curious.
I’ve heard her talk on this subject a few times and on the Phronema of the Church and I don’t recall hearing anything concerning, rather the opposite, very edifying.
What has she said that would lead people to apostatize?
@@manuelquelle9915Dr.Jeannie is a brilliant Orthodox scholar. My friend, tell those people who nearly apostatize to provide receipts.
It was a choir uniform. Before that lecture in the church, she sang with the choir at the service and remained in that uniform.
See the other comments. Specifically regarding your claim about her wearing a cassock…people are saying that is a false claim and that it was a CHOIR ROBE. Careful about slandering people.
Also, you know her husband is a priest right?
Of course Jesus was baptised with the Spirit so he could go to heaven. As John 3:13 no man has ascended to heaven with the Spirit taking him, even Jesus the Son of God.
The very first picture of Jesus Christ on the cross and at 36:50, is considered blasphemous. Jesus abdominal muscles are depicted to represent something other than the abdominal muscles. This gets even more aggressive in other pictures of Jesus. I haven't listened to this video, only commenting on the first painting I saw that you displayed and I hope you never show these false depictions of Jesus Christ's abdominal muscles again. We should also be seeing His most grievous shoulder wound that laid bare and splintered Jesus ' bone 🌹✝️🌹
Absolute nonsense
@@TheTransfiguredLife
Really? You haven't looked at some of them, have you. Older paintings of Jesus on the Cross in no way show dominant abdominal muscles and before saying, nonsense, I suggest you look through paintings because it's acutely obvious.