This ^^ this is why you almost never had full stacks. You woulda been doing a lot more dmg with those nukes if you just did her burst earlier in the rotation.
@@tropicthndr thats ur opinion ^^ For me Navia is super fun to play with atm and thats all that matters to me i might not use her in few months anymore but i dont mind many old characters that i used to use allot are atm just chilling its just how it goes :)
Yeah, that's the reason why he is not really used anymore, since most of the new enemies have a way to destroy it... Sure, it is only 4s CD, but to have to repeatedly swap him in is quite disfunctional for the rotation
@@imyournme6632 unfortunately it's getting harder and harder to do this painlessly, on coppelia i have to be very meticulous about the flower's placement. terribly punishing considering the geo construct is the majority of his damage profile
Same here. When I first pulled for her and tried her out at lvl 60 with literally lvl 4 talent level and lvl 60 weapon, she dished out 100k charged shots (with Furina, Bennett, Zhongli) and I thought that was insane. Now she hits about 250k per shot at lvl 6 skill talent (maxed levels everything else) and is so fun in abyss.
how?? I kinda just started to play genshin and my navia is lvl 90 with pretty good pieces of her artifacts and her signature weapon and the max I could deal was 90k. I don't have a Bennett or someone that buffs dmg tho so is that dmg normal or should I be doing more dmg?
I have to give credit where credit is due, Fontaine has some of the most fun characters to play with and can't wait to see what they do with future units like Clorinde and Arleccino. Navia is a monster, her high damage isn't as constant as Neuvillete or Wriothesley who specialise using basic or charged attacks but dear god the nukes she can do on her skill are incredible. Not to mention how funny it is to finish off an enemy with a shotgun blast right to the face
My only grip with Navia "Umbrella warfare I guess Umbrella warfare I guess Umbrella warfare I guess Umbrella warfare I guess Umbrella warfare I guess Umbrella warfare I guess"
You should start your rotation with Navia's burst to generate stacks and place Bennett's burst right before you swap to Navia again. This way, you can do triple E rotation with Bennett's buff active. Besides, Albedo is barely more DPS than Zhongli, and his flower doesn't exist in boss chamber. Really should've sticked to Zhongli in her teams.
I think albedo isn’t strictly worse than Zhongli in these teams. While Albedo’s flower can be destroyed by bosses, since the AOE is much larger, you can definitely space it out better (my albedo flower usually never gets destroyed, at least in this abyss on second half). Albedo also helps with navia’s ER requirements which are low but still are non-negligible. Also since albedo’s flower is harder to destroy than Zhongli’s pillar, you get way more consistent Shard generation
It feels worse, because at least the Nobushi don’t look cute and they try to attack you when you pass by them. The crabs and some other creatures don’t even fight back sometimes. I feel like a monster when I kill some of those
there are way more crabs than nobushis though, but i definitely agree with comment above that it feels worse. I hate killing the sea animals because of how cute they are, especially the seals.
When I farmed for neuvilette, I already had most of the transoceanic pearls I needed so I had barely any left especially after triple crowning, but then I decided to build freminet. And now I’m pulling for navia. I don’t think there’s going to be any crabs or fontemer abbarants left
hey Moga giving tips here,for Navia use her burst before everything so the team can accumulate the stack when doing their rotation and also hold navia skill for a bit, gaining 4 to 6 stack is much more damage improvement
U putting albedo’s skill ON the boss enemy and not using navia’s ult in the beginning of the rotation is painful. Skill issue is insane im actually crying bro
"maybe albedo's ultimate will do something this time" MAYBE if you don't place the flower on the boss and let it get destroyed immediately, it will do something lol
For coppelius, I just put a teleporter besides the guy. Getting there from a normal waypoint just takes way too long, even with ninja cart wheel and hydro mommy.
Albedo vs. Zhongli for Navia teams, especially with Furina, is pretty nuanced. They have their own set of problems. Albedo's geo construct has smaller hitbox and wider AoE so it's easier to get away with triggering crystallize and getting energy from it, but you will take more damage than with Zhongli. Zhongli's geo construct doesn't have manual pillar placement so you are left with less crystallize, but you will survive more if you have dodge skill issue. That plus Zhongli doesn't give a lot more energy to Navia is its own problem, causing you to result to Fav spear which has its own issue of needing a decent crit rate on Zhongli, sacrificing an HP hat for a crit hat or having high crit rate on each substat. Having Albedo instead may also be better in some circumstances since you may absorb a few swings of damage to jumpstart Bennett's healing before Furina's salon solitaire eats HP equivalent of 30% max Hp. The damage absorbed and jumpstarted healing results in earlier fanfare dmg bonus than with Zhongli. It does have the risk of being Ko'd by frenzies of attacks. That and Albedo's best weapon being event-limited really constricts freedom of building Albedo. It's just picking your poison when it comes to which of these characters you'd use with Navia. Zhongli if you can afford to control where his pillar is placed and if you're fine with more energy hungry Navia as well as dodging problems. Albedo if you can afford tanking damage, has the options for higher investment (Festering Desire or Cinnabar Spindle), and need more crytal shrapnel stacks early on. Just a reminder, technically Navia can gain crystal shrapnel stacks faster from crystallize than from her burst. Minimum 1s vs. 2.4 s. With standard ICD involved, perhaps 1 stack every 2.5s vs. 2.4s so difference felt is very small.
you should use zhongli. if you have problem of shards for shrapnel stacks just do Navia Ult for faster stack then switch to another char while collecting shards and waiting for bennete burst. with Zhongli no need to make proper artifacts just make him support for tank . High HP the better without good sub stats. you can benefit from Elemental res and Physical res which means more penetration. Also let zhongli equip 4pcs set tenacity it gives another 20% damage even he is not on field.
So... i skipped to the time stamp on where you build her..... and i got an ad. Understandable. Its ok. Ad ends and....... 1 second of the video and a 2nd ad comes...... AND ITS THE SAME GODAMN AD!!!
I’m really loving Navia so far!! When I first pulled her I didn’t have any resin to lvl her up so I threw on some random artifacts and paired her with Zhongli so she didn’t instantly die. At lvl 1 she was doing anywhere from 60-100k after getting her stacks
I'm pretty sure Navia's new set beats marechausse even with Furina in the party. I'm not 100% sure but you can compare the numbers yourself with a damage calculator
I think for Navia if you don't have a good albedo build for dmg, then is just better to play Geo MC instead you gain more energy from them and their conselations give 10% crit rate wich is preatty nice. Ofc if you have zhongli he will be the better option overall.
@@maximus574 No, he isn't. There is little room for error for placing down his geo construct. His burst also doesn't compensate enough crystallize. Albedo, Ningguang, and Geo Traveler's burst have the capacity to hit enemies with geo multiple times, enough to grant crystallize if a construct fails them. Zhongli's pillar only has shield and res shred for advantage, and shield may not be the best option like in Furina teams, especially as rate of healing is delayed through the rate of Hp taken away from Furina's salon solitaire. Geo Traveler gives interruption resistance. If you take a swing of damage, Bennett's gonna trigger another set of healing for more Furina fanfare. Same applies with Albedo applying crystallized shards over time, even increasing its durability through his burst's EM buff.
With the Mika auto attack thing you can just dash cancel the last hit in her attack combo (the last hit should deal dmg) and then do an auto so you don’t need Mika at all
Albedos flower gets destroyed immediately if you place it inside a boss btw, thats why you werent seeing much from his burst as most of its damage comes from having the flower out.
I also really impress with Navia mine can deal 40-50k with furina with no bannet buff and all talent at lv1 and with shitty artifacts with no bonus I doubt the number really can go up if I farm more for talent and artifact ❤
I got really lucky, i did a 20 pull just trying to get a Rosaria cons and got Navia instead and shes strong af, i have her at lvl 70 lvl 1 talents and i was doing 50k with the elemental skill Im currently running Noelle Navia Yelan Furina and the dmg is crazy
I would say you were doing wrong rotation you should use Navia burst first so you can generate crystallize for her stacks and also you should hold her E for some sec cause if you hold it she sucks up crystallizes near her 👍🏻
It’s kinda insane that Neuvillette is the almost the perfect Hydro carry, except his hydro application actually sucks. It makes no sense. Whenever I deal with those pyro lecters, I bring Xingque.
You'd want to use Navia's burst at the beginning of the rotation to allow her to get energy back and get stacks for her skill
and also hold her E for a sec to suck in all thoose crystals that are around
This ^^ this is why you almost never had full stacks. You woulda been doing a lot more dmg with those nukes if you just did her burst earlier in the rotation.
You’d want? I don’t want, nor should anyone else, as 4.4 characters are what you should be investing in. Navia is just goofy.
@@tropicthndr …. You good bro?
@@tropicthndr thats ur opinion ^^ For me Navia is super fun to play with atm and thats all that matters to me i might not use her in few months anymore but i dont mind many old characters that i used to use allot are atm just chilling its just how it goes :)
very painful seeing you place albedo's flower on bosses and having it be destroyed immediately
Yeah, that's the reason why he is not really used anymore, since most of the new enemies have a way to destroy it... Sure, it is only 4s CD, but to have to repeatedly swap him in is quite disfunctional for the rotation
Happy it wasn’t just me
@@DahRahzor The trick is to place is and let it sit behind bosses not infront of them.
@@imyournme6632 unfortunately it's getting harder and harder to do this painlessly, on coppelia i have to be very meticulous about the flower's placement. terribly punishing considering the geo construct is the majority of his damage profile
I don’t understand why hoyo cant just make it invincible, its so dumb
I'm absolutely loving Navia, I dont believe shes a pain at all.
At level 60 I was able to get 153K out of her.
Shes pretty strong with low investment!
Same here. When I first pulled for her and tried her out at lvl 60 with literally lvl 4 talent level and lvl 60 weapon, she dished out 100k charged shots (with Furina, Bennett, Zhongli) and I thought that was insane. Now she hits about 250k per shot at lvl 6 skill talent (maxed levels everything else) and is so fun in abyss.
My friends navia lvl 70 with lvl 4 talents did 180k on my masanori 😂 she is insane
how?? I kinda just started to play genshin and my navia is lvl 90 with pretty good pieces of her artifacts and her signature weapon and the max I could deal was 90k. I don't have a Bennett or someone that buffs dmg tho so is that dmg normal or should I be doing more dmg?
@@truesabo7698Have you leveled her talents?
Also sub stats and main stats matter a lot with her.
@@xoticvvitch Her E skill is on level 6. I can't upgrade further because I can't fight the narwhale still. Which sub stats and main stats huh?
I have to give credit where credit is due, Fontaine has some of the most fun characters to play with and can't wait to see what they do with future units like Clorinde and Arleccino. Navia is a monster, her high damage isn't as constant as Neuvillete or Wriothesley who specialise using basic or charged attacks but dear god the nukes she can do on her skill are incredible. Not to mention how funny it is to finish off an enemy with a shotgun blast right to the face
0:10 I was wondering why Moga was censoring the items... until I realized it was a pause icon lmfao
My only grip with Navia "Umbrella warfare I guess Umbrella warfare I guess Umbrella warfare I guess Umbrella warfare I guess Umbrella warfare I guess Umbrella warfare I guess"
This is the same with so many characters with skill spamming 😂
Trying to do floor 12 first half without two hydros is a nightmare
I know right, the only team I've done it with that had just 1 hydro is ayaka freeze
But what abt the hydro tulpa lmao
@@chorki4801hyperbloom also works rlly well (i used alhaitham, kuki, kokomi and nahida) - 0 retries
You should start your rotation with Navia's burst to generate stacks and place Bennett's burst right before you swap to Navia again. This way, you can do triple E rotation with Bennett's buff active. Besides, Albedo is barely more DPS than Zhongli, and his flower doesn't exist in boss chamber. Really should've sticked to Zhongli in her teams.
I think albedo isn’t strictly worse than Zhongli in these teams. While Albedo’s flower can be destroyed by bosses, since the AOE is much larger, you can definitely space it out better (my albedo flower usually never gets destroyed, at least in this abyss on second half). Albedo also helps with navia’s ER requirements which are low but still are non-negligible. Also since albedo’s flower is harder to destroy than Zhongli’s pillar, you get way more consistent Shard generation
pretty much agree, except the flower comment, idk if u were simplifying but he was just misplacing it, it can be used on bosses.
albedo is better for crystals tho for navia's stacks
The flower comment take isn't good. You can place it along with the boss so it can't be easliy destroyed or not be destroyed at all.
Farming crabs feels like farming nobushi, so many of them but half of them only drop greys
It feels worse, because at least the Nobushi don’t look cute and they try to attack you when you pass by them. The crabs and some other creatures don’t even fight back sometimes. I feel like a monster when I kill some of those
there are way more crabs than nobushis though, but i definitely agree with comment above that it feels worse. I hate killing the sea animals because of how cute they are, especially the seals.
Transocenic pearls are the new inazuma samurai drops(handguard things), everyone needs those for everything 😭
Eh, just prefarm if you don't want any hassle when a new unit drops.
In fairness, the Transoceanic Pearls drop is plentiful, while the handguard isn't.
@@UchihaPercyI'm pretty sure they actually buffed the handguard drops at one point 😭
If anything, those xenochromatic drops are more like the handguards
@@callmeyewsef Even if they did, it's still shit.
14:49 Moga jumpscared me 😭
The fun watching moga is you just shake your head throughout te video but somehow he still makes it work. Somehow.
Dear moga, never have i ever wanted to skip the farming. It's the best part and the montage
The way you gave up on the rotation at the end with Masanori and just zoomed in on Navia while doing the outro cracked me up
Thank god i dont have to farm until Cloud retainer comes out
Same I’m basically saving fragile resin from the battle pass
i love navia so worth pulling i was pulling for ayaka's weapon and also got navia's weapon too, she's a monster hit so hard!!
i actually got 65 water drops in one go without getting them before, and i’m proud of myself because i usually dislike farming sprcialties
There's about 78 dews but you can find most of them no problem in 1 area.~
proud of u
When I farmed for neuvilette, I already had most of the transoceanic pearls I needed so I had barely any left especially after triple crowning, but then I decided to build freminet. And now I’m pulling for navia. I don’t think there’s going to be any crabs or fontemer abbarants left
c2 furina gets full ff really fast with just bennet
The first team on floor 12 is the prime example of a group of op characters but doesn’t make any sense in a team together.
17:07 C0 team? Nice one lol
Raiden C6
Zhongli C3
Nahida C2
Neuvillette C1
Unless I misremembered some.
hey Moga giving tips here,for Navia use her burst before everything so the team can accumulate the stack when doing their rotation and also hold navia skill for a bit, gaining 4 to 6 stack is much more damage improvement
Merry Christmas moga and moglets, hope you have a wonderful holiday and a prosperous new year 😊
Watchina Moga just blindly place Albedo's skill only for it to get instantly destroyed hurts my soul
U putting albedo’s skill ON the boss enemy and not using navia’s ult in the beginning of the rotation is painful. Skill issue is insane im actually crying bro
Moga is really a "has a good personality but mediocre grade performance" type of employee.
I would never skip the *beeeeeeep!*-scenes ;-)
Me looking at my level 40 Navia, staring thinking if I will ever aced her
I love the thumbnail
"maybe albedo's ultimate will do something this time" MAYBE if you don't place the flower on the boss and let it get destroyed immediately, it will do something lol
For coppelius, I just put a teleporter besides the guy. Getting there from a normal waypoint just takes way too long, even with ninja cart wheel and hydro mommy.
Albedo vs. Zhongli for Navia teams, especially with Furina, is pretty nuanced. They have their own set of problems. Albedo's geo construct has smaller hitbox and wider AoE so it's easier to get away with triggering crystallize and getting energy from it, but you will take more damage than with Zhongli.
Zhongli's geo construct doesn't have manual pillar placement so you are left with less crystallize, but you will survive more if you have dodge skill issue. That plus Zhongli doesn't give a lot more energy to Navia is its own problem, causing you to result to Fav spear which has its own issue of needing a decent crit rate on Zhongli, sacrificing an HP hat for a crit hat or having high crit rate on each substat.
Having Albedo instead may also be better in some circumstances since you may absorb a few swings of damage to jumpstart Bennett's healing before Furina's salon solitaire eats HP equivalent of 30% max Hp. The damage absorbed and jumpstarted healing results in earlier fanfare dmg bonus than with Zhongli. It does have the risk of being Ko'd by frenzies of attacks. That and Albedo's best weapon being event-limited really constricts freedom of building Albedo.
It's just picking your poison when it comes to which of these characters you'd use with Navia. Zhongli if you can afford to control where his pillar is placed and if you're fine with more energy hungry Navia as well as dodging problems. Albedo if you can afford tanking damage, has the options for higher investment (Festering Desire or Cinnabar Spindle), and need more crytal shrapnel stacks early on.
Just a reminder, technically Navia can gain crystal shrapnel stacks faster from crystallize than from her burst. Minimum 1s vs. 2.4 s. With standard ICD involved, perhaps 1 stack every 2.5s vs. 2.4s so difference felt is very small.
you should use zhongli. if you have problem of shards for shrapnel stacks just do Navia Ult for faster stack then switch to another char while collecting shards and waiting for bennete burst.
with Zhongli no need to make proper artifacts just make him support for tank . High HP the better without good sub stats. you can benefit from Elemental res and Physical res which means more penetration. Also let zhongli equip 4pcs set tenacity it gives another 20% damage even he is not on field.
I just got done cleaning the ocean floor of Fontaine, Let me into your world next I need to farm more stuff for navia PLEASE!
You did a 300k on the first local legend, it was just buried under all the numbers
So... i skipped to the time stamp on where you build her..... and i got an ad. Understandable. Its ok. Ad ends and....... 1 second of the video and a 2nd ad comes...... AND ITS THE SAME GODAMN AD!!!
I’m really loving Navia so far!! When I first pulled her I didn’t have any resin to lvl her up so I threw on some random artifacts and paired her with Zhongli so she didn’t instantly die. At lvl 1 she was doing anywhere from 60-100k after getting her stacks
I'm pretty sure Navia's new set beats marechausse even with Furina in the party. I'm not 100% sure but you can compare the numbers yourself with a damage calculator
I think for Navia if you don't have a good albedo build for dmg, then is just better to play Geo MC instead you gain more energy from them and their conselations give 10% crit rate wich is preatty nice. Ofc if you have zhongli he will be the better option overall.
Zhongli is definitely a comfort option for people who don't want to dodge. He is better than all characters for crystalize other than albedo.
@@maximus574 No, he isn't. There is little room for error for placing down his geo construct. His burst also doesn't compensate enough crystallize. Albedo, Ningguang, and Geo Traveler's burst have the capacity to hit enemies with geo multiple times, enough to grant crystallize if a construct fails them.
Zhongli's pillar only has shield and res shred for advantage, and shield may not be the best option like in Furina teams, especially as rate of healing is delayed through the rate of Hp taken away from Furina's salon solitaire. Geo Traveler gives interruption resistance. If you take a swing of damage, Bennett's gonna trigger another set of healing for more Furina fanfare. Same applies with Albedo applying crystallized shards over time, even increasing its durability through his burst's EM buff.
I cleared first half with Navia Yelan Xingqiu Zhongli. Wasn't much pain without Kazuha.
"Why is she dying instantly?' Overload from Liam hits hard.
She pulls out glasses in her charge attack!
10:50 but you forgot the best applier of all: raiden.
With the Mika auto attack thing you can just dash cancel the last hit in her attack combo (the last hit should deal dmg) and then do an auto so you don’t need Mika at all
I feel like farming is one of the reasons people watch bcs I love seeing u farm
Moga struggling without Zhongli is always funny
i lost 50/50 on the axe. time to do the quests for the event weapon (i cried)
Imagine the pain moga is going to have next patch farming for you know who.
The beeps are my favorite part of every farming video
The farm was real for this one wasn’t it
Having to kill the animals underwater for the material they drop is torture, even more so because they only release 1, sometimes nothing😢😢 what a pain
man just casually dropped 50 starglitter for some character materials
I usually skip raising mode because that is just like a teaser for god mode,I don’t like being teased I wanna see big PP dmg
Merry Christmas and frohe Weihnachten! :)
i like to use the craftable waypoints for world bosses that are harder to reach. such a time saver.
I love that things didn't go perfectly because it is so real lol
You know we’re not seeing navia again on the channel until maybe a wolf lord abyss😂
Farming dewdrops was super fun for me 72 of them in just one hour
i just recently got her, shes only lvl 70 Talents all 1 and shes done 104k its insane
Damn!!! Im farming my ass off for primos,😂 f2p life
@@butter5144sameeee, I wish you luck!! ✌️
I hope hoyo makes Albedo's flower do not disappear upon cast, just make it automatically put underneath the whatever on top of it.
I love watching the farming process
9:16 Bro missed such a good piece
i see some use out of navia for certain bosses when they show up in the abyss. like wenut, burst works wonders on it
She's a good battery for DPS Noelle they go well together since she can get stacks off field switch then boom
If you Beyblade you get more crystals than you do using the Normal combo, its a tradeoff between higher damage but with a higher stamina cost.
Also you get me dew drops for doing the tower's world quest
use dash when enemy attack you and you don't die
yw
Albedos flower gets destroyed immediately if you place it inside a boss btw, thats why you werent seeing much from his burst as most of its damage comes from having the flower out.
3:42 had the same feeling……..
12:08 i felt that navia e no crit at ~100 crit rate T_T
Moga: I'm suffering
Bones: lol
Albedo “Mika comes out”
Merry Christmas!
Tip for f2p: If you don’t have zhongli or albedo, gorou is a good off field geo (c2 makes his off field geo better also)
I love you stay being casual player moga
Moga got a good artifact during a video? That’s insane
I also really impress with Navia mine can deal 40-50k with furina with no bannet buff and all talent at lv1 and with shitty artifacts with no bonus I doubt the number really can go up if I farm more for talent and artifact ❤
I got really lucky, i did a 20 pull just trying to get a Rosaria cons and got Navia instead and shes strong af, i have her at lvl 70 lvl 1 talents and i was doing 50k with the elemental skill
Im currently running Noelle Navia Yelan Furina and the dmg is crazy
Merry Christmas
Oh man, I haven't explored Fontaine much. I'm now afraid of the farming
You were clearly blessed by the 3-drop God (Me). I get 3 at least 60% of the time... When farming for Navia and Venti I got 7 drops that were 2.
imagine not lvl 90ing navia and her weapon and having her talents at 9-10-9 on day 1 of her release totally couldnt be me hahah
I would say you were doing wrong rotation you should use Navia burst first so you can generate crystallize for her stacks and also you should hold her E for some sec cause if you hold it she sucks up crystallizes near her 👍🏻
You messed up the start of f12 rotation a bit by placing albedo's flower directly on the boss so it got destroyed 👍
Troupe is her strongest if you can manage the buff perfectly,
I actually like the farming part the most lol
14:45 LMAO I CANT
Its always fun to see moga struggling:) joke aside but thanks for the video man
Hi moga! I think u weren´t grabbing the crystalyze thingys on the floor, navia can get 6 stacks from those for her e
hii i've seen your in-game graphics in the video and i was wondering what your graphic settings are? thank you! :)
you have a very nice voice! :3
ATK goblet would be better when using furina, and ypu could have some juicier stats
omggg Albedo's flower getting destroyed every time!! ahhhhhh
The boss in my world did me dirty since i got navia he never dropped 3 always 2
It’s kinda insane that Neuvillette is the almost the perfect Hydro carry, except his hydro application actually sucks. It makes no sense. Whenever I deal with those pyro lecters, I bring Xingque.
Her best on crit 75/210 easly does 200k without any support at c0
Painful that sometimes navia crit is pretty low
Theres more from completing a quest so fun
Ah, so you're the one stealing all of my three drops
Pls do a c6 navia showcase
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