My dad was a city firefighter in Western New York for many years. Mom and I would go where the fires were, even in bad weather. No matter how many inferno fires we saw, praying residents, pets, dad and all his firefighter brothers made it through safe.God love each & every firefighter.❤️❤️🚒🚒✡️
Other then getting seasick watching parts of it from the shaking, it was a good video. Especially love the shot of the Coast Guard helicoptor fly over at 7:16. Stay safe FDNY, great job.
I said the same thing the other day, it makes the hair on my neck stand up.....there was a some played on many 911 videos, they are using that music on a commercial now....makes me want to throw up.....I think the title is only time
Frances Falzone I am the same way, when I hear those beepers suddenly I am thinking about 911 that horrible day, nothing anyone could do is pray and cry
I use to live at 4011 7th Ave. My sister went to that Elementary school. Our apartment building was similar to this one. Right across from Sunset Park. Prayers to all individuals who lost their apartment and all their personal belongings.
I wished me that Mattel would make a lot of dolls from the legendary and brave men and women from the NYFD that children could play with them! I would buy them all and collect them all! Maybe they should also make sure, that a good amount of money they get with them will be donated to the fire department and victims of fire! By the way, I find this video here very fascinating and great to see, but I pray for the people who lived in this building and lost their homes and their belongings and for the people who got injured during the fire! May God bless them and give them all the power to heal and to come over with all! Amen 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 Lovely greetings from Sarah from Germany and have a great day and enjoy your time and stay safe and out there and take care of you all the time 💖🙋💖🙋💖🙋💖🙋💖🙋
@@LoudlabsNYC I didn't mean to imply "edit" as if you cut out parts, but I just meant how you pieced the different videos from different people/sources together. (Sorry, I dont know the lingo... What would be the correct word for that?)
@@cg-ny9078 i dont blame you. this particular edit is pretty much raw. we wanted to rush this video out to our viewers and didn't have the time to properly edit the video. so we threw all our clips into the software, deleted a few bad clips, and then put it on youtube. as we said before we may do a final version with FDNY audio in it.
A friend of mine lives around that area and witnessed that happening too. My condolences goes to the people she knows that live around that area who have to deal with a very terrible and horrific incident that’s unpredictable and saddening
unless her place was on fire she does not have to deal with anything. if she is all tore up from watching a fire, and not losing anything in it she is a drama queen and not really worth having around. you should really reevaluate who your friends are and rethink if they are worth the extra drama of having them in your life.
@@yata9746 lol the original post has been edited, so it looks like my post does not make much sense. the original post was about how the friend was pretty severely inflicted with PTSD and damn near permanently disabled now because she merely watched the fire, and how much suffering she was going through. just from watching the fire. she did not lose anything in it, nor was she displaced by it. and the OP wanted sympathy from youtube commenters for her and him/her/it because of the tragedy of someone else went through. you know typical drama queen B.S. so i gave the OP the best advice i could on how to deal with this problem.
Great video guys. Perfect shots of multiple units trying to get ahead of the flames. Lot of excellent firematics at work. Would be great training film.
Must say NYPD is very bad need to be trained water water must be up and running within 4min of arivel it takes 15mins to get 1 ladder up ND running in lreland on seen the first hose is on in30 seconds then the main jets hit at 3 minutes
@@LoudlabsNYC There was no video. There was just a report in the International News page of the Apr. 7th edition of Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ), stating that no lives were lost despite the catastrophic quality of the fire.
there videos form FDNY still amaze me. Seeming so many and seeing trends on how they fight fire is almost shocking. How they can let every fire go threw the roof and destroy the entire build is amazing. Watching this video for instance, why keep putting water on the top floor when it's all burned away? Why not work on the floor below where all the heavy active fire is? Set the first tower up and start spraying water but then move the bucket and the wind blows most of the water away. Why not leave it on the one side facing the wind and use the wind to your advantage? Its like they almost try to make it look like they are doing something but actually trying to burn the building down..
My old school was right next door and I witnessed it right after school when I came back after going home… I remember seeing it unfold… horrifying, there was smoke in the school for days…
Well if there ever a reason to cut back the budget. I saw a bunch of ladder trucks and tower trucks that were doing sweet F all. Well I should correct myself one was getting the top of the ladder good and roasted. This excuse/reason to not deliver water in the windows via the ladders and towers due to FFs being inside. Its true that steam burns are very serious. But 16 icebergs melted before any FFs were inside the building. Until the got inside they could have put a lot of water through the windows. The tower nozzle cam be controlled from the bottom. But no it just was raised for the sake of raising it...and putting hours on it. Well maybe I'm wrong they would have to find a hydrant and sent up supply lines. Which came first? The ladder or the hydrant because it certainly wasn't the water. That was a display of having far to many apparatus. Less vehicles with more FF on them. Way cheaper and WAY safer as very heavy trucks that are difficult to maneuver and stop. Less apparatus saves tons of money. Also there is no reason in this day and age that every ladder doesn't come with a nozzle permanently attached to the top. Again there is that tradition. It's been a couple of decades in the metropolitan area I live in that didn't have mounted nozzles on their ladders, towers and quints. In my humble opinion large older department kinda get stuck in their ability to progress. They are to attached to tradition and not modernizing. Old School...repeat as necessary
My school is right next to that building and i was in CFL and there was so many screaming from the walkies and the whole CFL evacuated to the park and one of my friends live in that building
What exactly was ladder 131amd others doing all that time??????????? Shopuld have been in action when fire was on top floor and not wait until the lower floor was consumed Thought the idea was to put water on the fire - putting it out??????? Is there some new theory where we simply let the building burn down now?????????????? Why risk firefighters when you can put large volumes of water right onto the fire.
Exactly. There should have been master streams flowing at it way earlier. Several aerials set up but not being used. I dont understand. Even the biggest fire department in the nation can drop the ball on quick water application/evaluating fire conditions. That fire was master stream size from the start of the video, also seemed wind driven. Hand lines were obviously not effective on initial attack with this one.
They always do this 100's of firefighters and 10 trucks all standing around chatting and watching it burn. Usually after about 20 mins they decide to use the ladders and put some water on it. I think they want to let it take hold good and proper to involve more of the building, so they can demonstrate they can put out a really big fire.
I don't know how many guys have actually fought fires this way I grew up in Chicago watching them fight massive fires I moved to Colorado and became a volunteer 18 years later I chose to retire first and foremost has anybody ever tried to put a hose stream up six floors it's not going to work especially in that wind so you're going to have to do interior to get it up water on the Fire that means stretching 500 feet of inch and 3/4 of 6 floors if you can make it up there first alarm assignments usually two to three trucks in New York I don't know about anybody else but my department taught us life-saving first before firefighting from the comments of 24 people injured that's the people injured 54 displaced but there was how many apartments that had to be searched that all takes time second alarm brings a couple more trucks they're still doing rescue and search and rescue third alarm brings few more trucks finally they might start trying to fight the fire from the exterior by this time it's probably an hour into the fire from when it actually started not from when the first truck got on scene that might be only 30 minutes not enough manpower for something that high up with that old of a building which was probably never retrofitted with sprinklers built-in probably 1940's 1930s the building was was probably built with primary plaster and lath interior with some firewalls but they didn't have the technology we do today so when the Fire gets going with the fire load of the Apartments and the construction material of the building plus the wind they're pretty much was no hope for a save on the upper two floors they did their best and they always do maybe not to your standards but for a City the size of New York with the age of the
You have a very valid point. From about 1980 and back the FF fought huge massive fires with smaller trucks and were very successful. Why? The priority was to get water flowing immediately and they actually hustled not stroll around. Big is very seldom better.
I don't get it tower ladder 131 was set up at the corner of the building below the fire floor for 10 minutes doing nothing before they put it in operation after the fire spread to the rest of the floor 😯
So tell me how they can have so much equipment and men, then take so long to do anything ? Like put water on the fire??? Put up a ladders into the fire and let it burn up! Is this intentional?
Exactly. Put up the ladders but don't use them. Then when the tower ladders arrive the original ladders are an obstacle. Bad command and control@@timweis3265
Why do we only see these kind of fires in the US? It looks like Bangla Desh - but at least there, they arrest the people who build such firetraps. Once again, a fire reaches the cockloft, and is able to spread very fast over the whole complex, and destroy the topfloor and part of a lower floor. 'Yes, ma'm, this building is safe; there's firewalls all over the place'....but they forget to say that the firewalls only go as high as the ceiling of the topfloor, leaving the cockloft completely open (or maybe separated by some flammable chipboard), and act as a fuse for a fire to spread it across the whole building, even to the other wing!! Don't bitch about the FD; I don't think there's much they could have done with a fire like this; there's no single place to make a stand. Great video, though; should be mandatory viewing for architects, builders, and building inspectors.
@@lindahoff7391 Hmm, sadly enough, I do. Yeah, I have seen the Grenfell tower fire, and it was a horror. But have you seen any such fires after that in Europe? I think most governments took steps to make sure it would not happen again, or in their countries. Compare that to the situation in the US: these cockloft fires occur on an almost daily basis (and those are only the ones we see on RUclips). And it's the same type of penny-pinching at the root of it. Penny-wise and pound-foolish, we'd call that. At the end of the day, YOU as a home-owner or as a renter PAY the cost (higher taxes to pay for the FD, and higher premiums for your fire-insurance) as a result of builders cutting corners by using cheap materials and cheap construction methods. BTW: you mentioning the Grenfell Tower fire is typical; it's the only big and tragic fire in a long time in Europe - that is why you remember it. You do NOT remember the big Avalon fires in the US, coz there were quite a few. Look it up.
@@JB91710 Yes, apparently they follow a protocol, that tells them to NOT do anything on the outside of the building, as long as there are FF's inside working on an internal attack. That makes sense, if you can not communicate directly to the FF's inside to warn them to get - temporarily - out of harm's way. But don't FF's have 2-way communication, these days? If not, they should get it. And sometimes, you can see stuff burning on the outside, which could easily be put out, without interfering with the FF's inside at all. Just following a protocol can be dumb, sometimes.
@@JB91710 you really never was a real firefighter? they bring those hoses in to fight fire and used them to help search for victims that might be in there and to put out the fire . you really don't know anything, with deck guns, ladder pipes you just push all that fire, heat and smoke onto any victims that might be in those buildings.
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Firefighters were actually IN the fire building putting water on the fire.Notice the hose lines going up the fire escapes.People who know nothing about fighting fires think you just shoot water into windows.
They were still getting people out whilst thats happening they need to be careful not to knock someone down, steam burn them or cause the fire to change direction into there route of egress....there were lines inside
Any particular reason why they’re not putting water on this Fire just a thought left the aerials in the window to get burned but no water coming out of the tower no water coming out of nowhere a couple fools going in with small lines that are just going to get them kill killed where is the water?
This would have been a great video if the cameraman had been using a camera stability device.....do they even think about how much the shaking decreases the value of their video has while shooting?
Why does it take so long for ladders to hit the fire. It cant take that long to get men out, nor starting to hit roof matter when they are in stairwells 2nd to 1st floors.
Why the RUclips channel name always emblazoned in the middle of the screen whilst Loudlabs is written at the very top and bottom? You got some identity issues?
LOUDLABS NEWS NYC look at the video, floor beneath top floor coulda been saved. Top floor fire coulda been contained to one side. People are homeless unnecessarily. You done so many of these videos you’ve become desensitized.
Is this just a fire fighting issue? I don`t have the authority to discuss FDNY tactics except to say that here in New Zealand we would possibly have a different approach. What I am more interested in is the design, materials and methods used in building construction in the USA. Also in a building of this type are sprinkler systems mandatory? I can`t help but feel that would have made a difference...here in New Zealand the sprinklers have done a lot of the work before the fire crews even arrive.
Jeff A 6 story H type building with a fire engulfing an entire top floor, 5th floor, and 4th floor with 3 maydays, multiple urgents, and a roof collapse that caused an explosion. Water came. It went out.
Well it's not just that easy to show up and put water on this kind of fire. Unless you been in their shoes you shouldn't talk. A lot of issues to deal with one big one would be the wind.
JB91710 J.B. I sea you are another armchair firefighters that thinks they know it all. Unless you have walked the walk it’s time to let the real firefighters do the job. Of coarse you are free to join a department and see how you measure up.
JB91710 Just read the other comments and see if you can figure it out. If you had any knowledge of what was going on you might understand that they were doing everything correctly. Go back to your chair and see what else you you can find wrong with the world.
JB91710 The first thing you do at a fire is getting the people out saving life is the most important thing. If you look at it you can see that is what they did. You can’t start with the water until you know it is clear. Pleas go to a firehouse and ask them. I have done this job I have a pretty good idea of what was going on. Also get that “chip off your shoulder “ you do not know everything. Look for some videos of firefighters training and get the correct information. They and have a good day.
My dad was a city firefighter in Western New York for many years.
Mom and I would go where the fires were, even in bad weather.
No matter how many inferno fires we saw, praying residents, pets, dad and all his firefighter brothers made it through safe.God love each & every firefighter.❤️❤️🚒🚒✡️
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My thanks to LOUDLABS for a firsthand look at the FD's response to a devastating fire, the action and how a great fire department handles such fires.
What a fire breathing dragon! And the wind whipping thru didnt help. God bless all the fire fighters.
Other then getting seasick watching parts of it from the shaking, it was a good video. Especially love the shot of the Coast Guard helicoptor fly over at 7:16. Stay safe FDNY, great job.
Why is there an unmanned bucket right on the corner doing nothing ? Can't it's hoses be operated from the ground ?
I can hardly watch this video. I can only imagine to be tasked to fight this fire. NYFD-you're the best
All these years later and it still bothers me to hear those sensors beeping on Firefighter jackets! Takes me right back to 9/11!😭
I said the same thing the other day, it makes the hair on my neck stand up.....there was a some played on many 911 videos, they are using that music on a commercial now....makes me want to throw up.....I think the title is only time
Frances Falzone I am the same way, when I hear those beepers suddenly I am thinking about 911 that horrible day, nothing anyone could do is pray and cry
Feel the same
Thank y’all for caring!!!!! Trust me my husband and do and hear them as constant as the train BUT still a chilling feeling even for us.
Same 😢
Wind is playing havoc with this fire!
I use to live at 4011 7th Ave. My sister went to that Elementary school. Our apartment building was similar to this one. Right across from Sunset Park. Prayers to all individuals who lost their apartment and all their personal belongings.
34:59 would make an amazing photo.
Ignore the people complaining about the shaking camera in the beginning. I think the footage came out amazing.
It's brutal. A photographer needs to be holding the camera still, not shaking and wiggling all over the place.
I wished me that Mattel would make a lot of dolls from the legendary and brave men and women from the NYFD that children could play with them! I would buy them all and collect them all! Maybe they should also make sure, that a good amount of money they get with them will be donated to the fire department and victims of fire! By the way, I find this video here very fascinating and great to see, but I pray for the people who lived in this building and lost their homes and their belongings and for the people who got injured during the fire! May God bless them and give them all the power to heal and to come over with all! Amen 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 Lovely greetings from Sarah from Germany and have a great day and enjoy your time and stay safe and out there and take care of you all the time 💖🙋💖🙋💖🙋💖🙋💖🙋
Great footage! Outstanding coverage.
Thanks for such a long video and great job editing, as always!
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we didnt edit lol
@@LoudlabsNYC I didn't mean to imply "edit" as if you cut out parts, but I just meant how you pieced the different videos from different people/sources together. (Sorry, I dont know the lingo... What would be the correct word for that?)
@@cg-ny9078 i dont blame you. this particular edit is pretty much raw. we wanted to rush this video out to our viewers and didn't have the time to properly edit the video. so we threw all our clips into the software, deleted a few bad clips, and then put it on youtube. as we said before we may do a final version with FDNY audio in it.
A friend of mine lives around that area and witnessed that happening too. My condolences goes to the people she knows that live around that area who have to deal with a very terrible and horrific incident that’s unpredictable and saddening
unless her place was on fire she does not have to deal with anything. if she is all tore up from watching a fire, and not losing anything in it she is a drama queen and not really worth having around. you should really reevaluate who your friends are and rethink if they are worth the extra drama of having them in your life.
@@lorknozzel11 lmao what?
@@yata9746 lol the original post has been edited, so it looks like my post does not make much sense. the original post was about how the friend was pretty severely inflicted with PTSD and damn near permanently disabled now because she merely watched the fire, and how much suffering she was going through. just from watching the fire. she did not lose anything in it, nor was she displaced by it. and the OP wanted sympathy from youtube commenters for her and him/her/it because of the tragedy of someone else went through. you know typical drama queen B.S.
so i gave the OP the best advice i could on how to deal with this problem.
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I'm not joining your group money grubby hungry idiots there are much better videos from better video outfits in New York.
I saw another YTers video of the same fire. Yours is MUCH MUCH BETTER. All I saw was smoke for almost an hr
Thank you. We were lucky that one of our members lived closely and was able to respond quickly.
Wow. That fire is so big it generates it's own weather. I was expecting a few lightning bolts to slam through that smoke.
Yeah right it was an apartment building not WW2 Dresden.
It was swirling fire 🔥 due to high winds. Freaked me out thinking what if pets were trapped inside😢
Great video guys. Perfect shots of multiple units trying to get ahead of the flames. Lot of excellent firematics at work. Would be great training film.
Must say NYPD is very bad need to be trained water water must be up and running within 4min of arivel it takes 15mins to get 1 ladder up ND running in lreland on seen the first hose is on in30 seconds then the main jets hit at 3 minutes
Wow great find. Great video
well done lads you did a great job have a good journey and day
Thanks for the news. I'm originally from NYC Big 🍎. I still like to know what's going on!
Great job FDNY
Kudos to the men in the ladder buckets. They were key to starting to knock down this fire.
Great video, guys.
This fire even made it to the Press in Germany - a miracle that no one was killed! Murphy's law that the fire started at the top floor!
Jürgen Kuhlmann What Video did they use
@@LoudlabsNYC There was no video. There was just a report in the International News page of the Apr. 7th edition of Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ), stating that no lives were lost despite the catastrophic quality of the fire.
Nice Work Guys!
A shame so many people lost their homes.
Got marshmallows?
That wind is like a super villain lol
Great videos, but bad fire. Thank you
Sunset park my 1967 playground
there videos form FDNY still amaze me. Seeming so many and seeing trends on how they fight fire is almost shocking. How they can let every fire go threw the roof and destroy the entire build is amazing. Watching this video for instance, why keep putting water on the top floor when it's all burned away? Why not work on the floor below where all the heavy active fire is? Set the first tower up and start spraying water but then move the bucket and the wind blows most of the water away. Why not leave it on the one side facing the wind and use the wind to your advantage? Its like they almost try to make it look like they are doing something but actually trying to burn the building down..
good video but run it through youtube stabilizer
My old school was right next door and I witnessed it right after school when I came back after going home… I remember seeing it unfold… horrifying, there was smoke in the school for days…
Excellent...
Good video!
Can someone tell me what a firefighter does when nature calls? Especially when your at a fire for 25 hours.
You go in the building....
Fire is a hungry, hungry beast 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
So are fire budgets
Great video
N.Y.F.D. are badass Firefighters, biggest balls ever . I salute you always! AJK Retired IAFF brother
what is keeping the ladders from getting hot..they are right in there close to the flames.
Well if there ever a reason to cut back the budget. I saw a bunch of ladder trucks and tower trucks that were doing sweet F all. Well I should correct myself one was getting the top of the ladder good and roasted.
This excuse/reason to not deliver water in the windows via the ladders and towers due to FFs being inside. Its true that steam burns are very serious. But 16 icebergs melted before any FFs were inside the building. Until the got inside they could have put a lot of water through the windows. The tower nozzle cam be controlled from the bottom. But no it just was raised for the sake of raising it...and putting hours on it. Well maybe I'm wrong they would have to find a hydrant and sent up supply lines. Which came first?
The ladder or the hydrant because it certainly wasn't the water.
That was a display of having far to many apparatus. Less vehicles with more FF on them.
Way cheaper and WAY safer as very heavy trucks that are difficult to maneuver and stop. Less apparatus saves tons of money. Also there is no reason in this day and age that every ladder doesn't come with a nozzle permanently attached to the top. Again there is that tradition. It's been a couple of decades in the metropolitan area I live in that didn't have mounted nozzles on their ladders, towers and quints.
In my humble opinion large older department kinda get stuck in their ability to progress. They are to attached to tradition and not modernizing. Old School...repeat as necessary
Like your videos do you have to plaster loudlabs across the screen?
500 years late to the party, but god it sucks that it jumped to the next building. Wind and access must have been a nightmare.
All of there hook and ladders need hose & nozzles .
thanks 4 the video
i got a question for a firefighter please.when you guys are on the ladder and nature call you can hold it but only for so long so what do you do ?
That’s why they have big boots on.😜😂🤣
David Glaum underrated comment lol
Piss secretly.....Im a female and its twice as hard finding a way unlike the tyre watering boys lol
Robyn Summerrell 👍😹Have a great day and stay safe.
Hey how do you get access to the scene? Also what scanner do you use in the background?
Good coverage! Why was it a 10-66?
Que inoperancia con tanto equipo.
Cual es el.motivo que lo hace ver que no apagan sino que dejan consuma el fuego
that trucks back flap said it all it ain't easy
My school is right next to that building and i was in CFL and there was so many screaming from the walkies and the whole CFL evacuated to the park and one of my friends live in that building
What exactly was ladder 131amd others doing all that time??????????? Shopuld have been in action when fire was on top floor and not wait until the lower floor was consumed
Thought the idea was to put water on the fire - putting it out??????? Is there some new theory where we simply let the building burn down now?????????????? Why risk firefighters when you can put large volumes of water right onto the fire.
Thank u, I was thinking the same thing
Exactly. There should have been master streams flowing at it way earlier. Several aerials set up but not being used. I dont understand. Even the biggest fire department in the nation can drop the ball on quick water application/evaluating fire conditions. That fire was master stream size from the start of the video, also seemed wind driven. Hand lines were obviously not effective on initial attack with this one.
They always do this 100's of firefighters and 10 trucks all standing around chatting and watching it burn. Usually after about 20 mins they decide to use the ladders and put some water on it. I think they want to let it take hold good and proper to involve more of the building, so they can demonstrate they can put out a really big fire.
It's a simple case of don't go to the fire wait for it to come to you.
Loudlabs sounds familiar. Were you ever part of a documentary on first responder pictures and videos that you sell to news outlets etc? 🎥
Damn, that wind is whipping.
I don't know how many guys have actually fought fires this way I grew up in Chicago watching them fight massive fires I moved to Colorado and became a volunteer 18 years later I chose to retire first and foremost has anybody ever tried to put a hose stream up six floors it's not going to work especially in that wind so you're going to have to do interior to get it up water on the Fire that means stretching 500 feet of inch and 3/4 of 6 floors if you can make it up there first alarm assignments usually two to three trucks in New York I don't know about anybody else but my department taught us life-saving first before firefighting from the comments of 24 people injured that's the people injured 54 displaced but there was how many apartments that had to be searched that all takes time second alarm brings a couple more trucks they're still doing rescue and search and rescue third alarm brings few more trucks finally they might start trying to fight the fire from the exterior by this time it's probably an hour into the fire from when it actually started not from when the first truck got on scene that might be only 30 minutes not enough manpower for something that high up with that old of a building which was probably never retrofitted with sprinklers built-in probably 1940's 1930s the building was was probably built with primary plaster and lath interior with some firewalls but they didn't have the technology we do today so when the Fire gets going with the fire load of the Apartments and the construction material of the building plus the wind they're pretty much was no hope for a save on the upper two floors they did their best and they always do maybe not to your standards but for a City the size of New York with the age of the
You have a very valid point. From about 1980 and back the FF fought huge massive fires with smaller trucks and were very successful. Why? The priority was to get water flowing immediately and they actually hustled not stroll around. Big is very seldom better.
Ni har alldrig funderat på att skaffa ett stativ till kameran ?
that wind is making it a blowtorch up there
A little water on that Fire might be a novel approach
Wow! Thirteen minutes into video before first water hits the fire! What is this, a controlled burn?
Are you sure your stop watch was working??
Awesome coverage of the fire scene. 💪💪💪🦵🦵🦵
I don't get it tower ladder 131 was set up at the corner of the building below the fire floor for 10 minutes doing nothing before they put it in operation after the fire spread to the rest of the floor 😯
I was thinking the same thing, I don't think any firemen were on the top floor
Why are ladder trucks with no built in hoses, used at least to string two or three hoses to firemen in windows of exterior ?
This comment makes little sense
The ware coming out of that basket was nasty, Was someone drawing from a creek because of hydrant scarcity again?
Sounded extraordinary windy
Isnt there a risk that the floor gives in of all the water (when the down floor isnt burned out)?
So tell me how they can have so much equipment and men, then take so long to do anything ? Like put water on the fire??? Put up a ladders into the fire and let it burn up! Is this intentional?
Was thinking the same thing. Lots of stalling around. Maybe they all need coffee and enemas.
Exactly. Put up the ladders but don't use them. Then when the tower ladders arrive the original ladders are an obstacle. Bad command and control@@timweis3265
Shout out to Ladder 8. We don't forget you.
Why do we only see these kind of fires in the US? It looks like Bangla Desh - but at least there, they arrest the people who build such firetraps. Once again, a fire reaches the cockloft, and is able to spread very fast over the whole complex, and destroy the topfloor and part of a lower floor. 'Yes, ma'm, this building is safe; there's firewalls all over the place'....but they forget to say that the firewalls only go as high as the ceiling of the topfloor, leaving the cockloft completely open (or maybe separated by some flammable chipboard), and act as a fuse for a fire to spread it across the whole building, even to the other wing!!
Don't bitch about the FD; I don't think there's much they could have done with a fire like this; there's no single place to make a stand.
Great video, though; should be mandatory viewing for architects, builders, and building inspectors.
You don't. See Grenfell Tower Fire.
@@lindahoff7391 Hmm, sadly enough, I do. Yeah, I have seen the Grenfell tower fire, and it was a horror. But have you seen any such fires after that in Europe? I think most governments took steps to make sure it would not happen again, or in their countries. Compare that to the situation in the US: these cockloft fires occur on an almost daily basis (and those are only the ones we see on RUclips). And it's the same type of penny-pinching at the root of it.
Penny-wise and pound-foolish, we'd call that.
At the end of the day, YOU as a home-owner or as a renter PAY the cost (higher taxes to pay for the FD, and higher premiums for your fire-insurance) as a result of builders cutting corners by using cheap materials and cheap construction methods.
BTW: you mentioning the Grenfell Tower fire is typical; it's the only big and tragic fire in a long time in Europe - that is why you remember it. You do NOT remember the big Avalon fires in the US, coz there were quite a few. Look it up.
@@JB91710 Yes, apparently they follow a protocol, that tells them to NOT do anything on the outside of the building, as long as there are FF's inside working on an internal attack. That makes sense, if you can not communicate directly to the FF's inside to warn them to get - temporarily - out of harm's way. But don't FF's have 2-way communication, these days? If not, they should get it.
And sometimes, you can see stuff burning on the outside, which could easily be put out, without interfering with the FF's inside at all. Just following a protocol can be dumb, sometimes.
@@JB91710 you really never was a real firefighter? they bring those hoses in to fight fire and used them to help search for victims that might be in there and to put out the fire . you really don't know anything, with deck guns, ladder pipes you just push all that fire, heat and smoke onto any victims that might be in those buildings.
Sorry for the injured
Grateful no serious casualties or fatalities
The LOGO in the middle of the screen is annoying.
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Taking a long time to get Tower Ladders up.
good question.
Oh dear Close to 8 ave
Took WAY too much time getting water on that fire!!!
You should have been there, so you could show all of your vast knowledge of fire fighting to the FDNY.
Firefighters were actually IN the fire building putting water on the fire.Notice the hose lines going up the fire escapes.People who know nothing about fighting fires think you just shoot water into windows.
They were still getting people out whilst thats happening they need to be careful not to knock someone down, steam burn them or cause the fire to change direction into there route of egress....there were lines inside
I was going to throw my two cents in here, but the other comments did well enough
Is there any next day video? Please
Any particular reason why they’re not putting water on this Fire just a thought left the aerials in the window to get burned but no water coming out of the tower no water coming out of nowhere a couple fools going in with small lines that are just going to get them kill killed where is the water?
The watermark "LOUDLABS" appearing through-out this video is very distracting.
The watermark is annoying.
You can always pay 250dollars for the shaky video without the water mark
9.50 and I still have not seen any water heading to the fire???
Those pre-war apartment buildings are fire traps.
Is there a reason that FDNY decided not to put master streams on all their ladders?
did you catch the one on 59 and
4th ave
Oh no! Did it spread to another building?
The ladder goes up the ladder comes down with nothing accomplished
This would have been a great video if the cameraman had been using a camera stability device.....do they even think about how much the shaking decreases the value of their video has while shooting?
Where does all that water go , must be a total waterdamage in the whole building and basements full of water
$249.99 for a bunch of shaking! You have to be kidding.
Why did it take so long to put water on this fire ?
Find out what an interior attack is
Find out what putting water on an obvious fire that is spreading is.@@LoudlabsNYC
God bless the firefighters 🙏🏻.
Why does it take so long for ladders to hit the fire. It cant take that long to get men out, nor starting to hit roof matter when they are in stairwells 2nd to 1st floors.
Why the RUclips channel name always emblazoned in the middle of the screen whilst Loudlabs is written at the very top and bottom? You got some identity issues?
yes, i'll be your emergency relief 600 years from now.
for an austraulian producer.
alright there it is.
prevent it beforehand.
Makes me sick watching how FDNY fought this fire. People are homeless because of their firefighting tactics
Allan O Castro We’re you there?
no explanation, just insults. explain yourself.
LOUDLABS NEWS NYC look at the video, floor beneath top floor coulda been saved. Top floor fire coulda been contained to one side. People are homeless unnecessarily. You done so many of these videos you’ve become desensitized.
@@aldepal Dont talk about what they did wrong. Talk about what can be done better. Constructive criticism is fine, not insults.
Is this just a fire fighting issue? I don`t have the authority to discuss FDNY tactics except to say that here in New Zealand we would possibly have a different approach. What I am more interested in is the design, materials and methods used in building construction in the USA. Also in a building of this type are sprinkler systems mandatory? I can`t help but feel that would have made a difference...here in New Zealand the sprinklers have done a lot of the work before the fire crews even arrive.
Big fire in up town Schenectady
Why aren't they putting water on It?!
no, don't say bullcrap, i want the truth.
Truth is your off your meds
13 minutes in and I’m wondering….is anyone putting water on this?
My God!!
Putting water on the fire sure would make alot of sense, but let us continue to wait and see if it snuffs itself out
Jeff A 6 story H type building with a fire engulfing an entire top floor, 5th floor, and 4th floor with 3 maydays, multiple urgents, and a roof collapse that caused an explosion. Water came. It went out.
Well it's not just that easy to show up and put water on this kind of fire. Unless you been in their shoes you shouldn't talk. A lot of issues to deal with one big one would be the wind.
JB91710 J.B. I sea you are another armchair firefighters that thinks they know it all. Unless you have walked the walk it’s time to let the real firefighters do the job. Of coarse you are free to join a department and see how you measure up.
JB91710 Just read the other comments and see if you can figure it out. If you had any knowledge of what was going on you might understand that they were doing everything correctly. Go back to your chair and see what else you you can find wrong with the world.
JB91710 The first thing you do at a fire is getting the people out saving life is the most important thing. If you look at it you can see that is what they did. You can’t start with the water until you know it is clear. Pleas go to a firehouse and ask them. I have done this job I have a pretty good idea of what was going on.
Also get that “chip off your shoulder “ you do not know everything.
Look for some videos of firefighters training and get the correct information. They and have a good day.
no, answer me, it's alright. i want the truth.
19:32 Anyone know why the water from the hose is so dirty? Not that it matters , just curious.
Just some rust from the water main.
If water in the system sits for awhile, it turns rusty.