As a society, we still have not managed to make it safe for people to leave abusive relationships. Particularly for women, the most dangerous time is AFTER they leave. If there are children, they are still tied to their abusers and the courts allow many abuser to use their children as a way of maintaining control over their ex. If a woman waits for her abuser to attack her before defending herself, it could be too late, if she manages to ''escape'' she will forever be living in fear. There is no good option for victims unless they have no ties and can leave their old life and everyone they know behind.
@@shesoverit2302 - try re-reading what I wrote, I did not state she did the right thing, I do not even have an opinion about whether or not she was a victim or manipulating the people around her, but statistically the later is unlikely. What I am saying is that the justice system has left victims largely unprotected, especially when there are children involved. As a society we need to find a way to do better.
@@viviancouper4636 I hear ya! but I would've shot that bastid too! I am tired of these abusive a**holes getting away with murder because in the end the victims of DV end up dead. As far as I am concerned she did the right thing. There should be a law in NY that all those that have restraint orders on their abusers (mostly women who are abused by men) have the right to carry and shoot to kill if their lives are in danger.
@@justsaying3729 - you are right, systems punish women for reporting, punish them for defending themselves and punish them for asking for basic human rights.
@@shesoverit2302- We're commenting after watching an almost 10min clip of this tragic story. But within this 9min25sec clip it tells us that her therapist had to convince her to have a FORENSIC nurse to photographly document her wounds, which they showed us some of the pictures. To me that alone makes her story seem MORE creditable & believable. Because you would think a FORENSIC nurse would be able to recognize SELF-inflected wounds!? And her having someone else help to get rid of her partner/kids father by inflecting those wounds on her isn't believable to me also. Because her partner would've also noticed them like everyone else & he would be asking questions, wanting answers, & telling people close to him that something isn't right, as humans we tend to talk & talk a lot. But like I stated earlier we're commenting on an almost 10mins clip of this tragic story. So I have to ask, do you PERSONALLY know more about this story? Also have you ever been in an abusive relationship!?
With regard to domestic abuse and violence, the juror's who asked “Why didnt she leave ?” Clearly have no understanding of the subject. It is also appalling that the court was not allowed to hear that the husband had videoed the sexual and domestic violence and downloaded to porn sites. This woman’s case needs to be seriously appealed and reviewed properly.
This is why so many women don't report abuse because of this right here this is so sad what does this say to the many women who are abused ??? Disgusting
I keep telling women to just stay SINGLE but they refuse to listen and they keep signing up to be cheated on, abused, mistreated and now killed. Leave these men alone out here. Focus on your relationship with God and Christ, helping your family members who already have children, your community and on bettering yourself. If you need and want someone to share your life with, make sure they are on Jesus Christ team. Also, being SINGLE does not mean being alone. Family and friends are there for that purpose. I am an Advice Coach and the calls, texts, and e-mails that I receive on a regular basis is mind blowing. Ladies, STAY SINGLE. There's nothing in the world better than PEACE and a DRAMA FREE LIFE.
There’s no proof he ever hurt or abused her she had a gun in her hand there was no threat he was shot gun to skin in the head she’s a liar and was sleeping around including with married man
She is a manipulative psychopath!!! It's funny she was so scared of him yet in the trial they showed texts of her talking pure Sh#t to him calling him stupid and a man child.. don't think a scared girl who was abused would do that !!!!! C'mon ppl
So far it sounds to me like she saved her own life.. People saw it.. There are photos of bruises over and over.. What do they mean nobody has this much documentation? Do they not see the times we live in now?
It's uncommon to see documentation like this *because of the times will still live in*. So, because she is the outlier who was suggested some help to build a case against her abuser, they doubt it and use it against her.
I had pics of my ex-husband’s abuse each and every time before I could finally get out and this was back in the day where I had to have the developed at a pharmacy.
@@zuljasinanaj429 what if she did all those bruises to herself? Because some orost women would do that to get an innocent man to go to prison. My mother in law tried to do that to my fiance.
@@s.s.9160 haven’t looked into the eviction this case! However, if I recall correctly there was a history of physical abuse there sooooo I’m sure she didn’t just sit home and make up fantasy to murder her husband …
Can someone in law please explain to me why valuable evidence might be left out of a case? It seems here that allegedly he was uploading videos of him abusing her physically and sexually onto porn sites. Why would info like this be left out? Seems it may have been helpful in this case, for the jury’s sake anyway.
There was a very good reason. 1) It wasn’t actually porn. It was pics of her in bondage etc. 2) Not a single pic included Chris 3) Most importantly, in order for evidence to admissible, the defense had to “lay a foundation”, meaning provide evidence of who took the pics, when & who loaded the pics online. The defense wasn’t able to do that, therefore it’s inadmissible. The judge could have also ruled that the evidence was more prejudicial than probative. But that’s not the ruling he made. It was based on lack of foundation.
Hulu has the episode. Unless someone has been beaten down mentally, debased, degraded, then you just cant even imagine how it chips away at your soul...outwardly you put on a smile and laugh and joke and act normal. YES you will lie to anyone who asks you about it, you will shut down when asked to communicate. When your alone with your abuser, its a whole different story! YES you know theres help, theres people telling you the right thing to do. There is counseling.. but by then your so beatdown you have no confidence to make the bold choice to leave. The abuser controls you and you know what theyre capable of, what theyll do to torment you. They might even change for a bit, but they always return to the abuser they are. This abuse will take years to overcome the mental degradation...it will rear its ugly head in your workplace, your confidence to do more, even how you mature and grow over time. Mental abuse is worse than physical which can heal. Words attach themselves to your spirit. ONE MORE THING: NEVER TALK TO COPS - THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS!
@@ameriefan01 ohh yes! That's why I love Hulu! I was watching something on Hulu and forgot i was on Hulu and wanted to look at comments lmao i ended up finding it on RUclips and watching like 6parts.
She was sentenced to 19 but the Violence Survivors Act stepped in and they got her down to 7 1/2 yrs. She will be out 2024. Sad. Hope she gets help mentally.
She’s a murderer. To get out of prison for murder after 7.5 years is wrong. Her actions and behaviors are indicative of someone who was planning a murder. The victim was sleeping on the couch when she chose to kill him and not leave the home with her children. Whether it was a kill or be killed situation, we will never know. He is no longer alive to share his side of the story.
Grant Joseph she's white and a female, claiming DV. DV is being used for a pass on everything and anything from Parental Kidnapping, alienation to murder.
It doesn't work like that when leaving an abusive man. He will stalk, harass, rape, and kidnap a woman, even kill her. That's why it's kill or be killed, they will only leave you alone if they are dead.
She has a deceitful look in her eyes, I am gonna say this no matter who disagrees... she is a liar, and she killed him in cold blood, the gun was a close contact shot if she killed him in self defense why was he shot at such close proximity? Its easy to self inflict bruises and blame a spouse who is going to doubt you‽ go watch Sherri Papini case and see how she fooled everyone until her lies were exposed
You are a DV because thats your type. You like the edgy good looking or half good looking bad boys and not the choir boys but complain about what comes with it. YOU ARE NO VICTIM. You play with fire and you will get burn... I have known so many women like you and if you had to settle with the boring guy who wouldnt squash a grape in a fruit fight you would find him boring , treat him like ish, cheat on him with the type you are with so save the sorry sob story for your diary
They isolate you, they belittle you, but most of all: they scare you. And our Justice system is soooo messed up that the abuser often gets MORE power because they are MASTER manipulators. She was terrified of what would happen to her and her kids if she left.
@@SavvyMuhon I do understand abusive relationships…that’s how I have managed to never be in one. And it doesn’t change the law. You kill someone out side of an immediate threat to your life and it will be called murder. That sucks, but there is no way to create new laws that would allow people to kill people if they felt they couldn’t leave a relationship. It would become everyone’s defense for murdering any spouse.
My hs boyfriend lost his life in a double murder because he was friends with a young woman who was in an abusive relationship with her children's father. The guy stabbed the 19 and 20 year old friends to death and was sentenced to two life sentences in prison.
You're kidding me, she shot him in the head while he slept on the couch. I'm confused. Is that allowed if you say. They did me wrong in the past. So I feel justified in killing them ?? Hhhmmm. Emhhuu ok got it
I would be absolutely hysterical if I HAD to kill my husband. I wouldn’t be able to form a sentence nothing. And I would’ve called the police immediately!!!
It was self-defense. Has she gone to the cops? She would’ve ended up killed by husband. Cops can’t protect you, restraining orders, obviously don’t work. Poor woman , I hope the years go by fast and you can have a new life. ❤️
As a woman I don’t believe her one bit. She did it because since the time of her childhood trauma she has probably hated men & wanted someone to pay. Everything was staged. She played those ppl like a flute. She should be in prison
Some of this reminds me of Gabby Petito in Utah when calls were made to 911 about a domestic dispute and a witness said BL was slapping her, then Gabby makes herself seem like the abuser to protect him and lies to police, typical in DV situations. I wish Gabby would've protected herself like this woman did here. We will see more and more of this in the near future because the system does not protect women in abusive relationships. Kill or be killed? Not even a doubt in my mind I would rather do whatever is necessary to protect myself and my loved ones.
@@justsaying3729 A lesson we can all learn from. Plan the escape and walk away asap. She had many opportunities to do so while in Utah and Wyoming. I personally would've kicked him out of the van and keep going even if i run him over, don't care, just get the hell out asap and keep going don't look back. She also should've seek protection from her parents, that would've definitely kept Brian away. Then put a restraint order on him and go live with her mom or dad for a while until the threat is gone. Unfortunately, when in a DV situation you gotta lay low for a while and if that isn't enough to stop them from stalking, you move out of the country if you can. I don't know but it's insane that in the 21st century nothing has changed for DV victims.
The question at the end of the day is can you execute your abuser while he is not showing an immediate threat? Turns out in New York State you can’t but with new legislation passed you get an easy sentence from 19 years to 7 years. Girl got lucky.
7 years? American men be on your guards then. 2:19 from the drawing of the crime scene, it appears that Chris was sleeping/resting when he was shot, not fighting with her. so not a threat. I kind of suspect her to have killed him in cold blood and played the scene of the abused one.
Not sure that murder is an answer to domestic abuse except in a moment of self defence. Yes, leaving is an imperfect solution but it has to be tried first.
I just think she's not a good story teller, her brain cells must b full of holes. This woman suffered too much drama.. sorry 4r the death of heR husband, but she needs an appeal. The guy abused her 4r yrs.
It's sad that she didn't report it but chose to kill him instead. On the bright side, her sentence was reduced from 19 years to 7.5 years. However...there was no need to go through with the murder if she just reported it and tried leaving him.
or, or, she killed him, got the equal treatment that women have been fighting so hard for with a touch of special treatment because she is a woman. Shooting someone who is not attacking you is not self defense even though white people and women seem to get away with that description to detail. We believe you because you are a woman and gave her less than half of her sentence even when there is no evidence of what she is saying. She sounded real calm and calculated for someone who is terrified of what had occurred with someone ending up dead... This was a planned killing but she is a woman and easy on the eyes
You are right, but what then? If she is believed she might be able to get a restraining order, but if/when he gets visitation rights to the kids, it is next to impossible for her to keep her address secret. Women are more likely to be killed after leaving an abusive relationship, many abused women have to move over and over again after their abusers track them down, and there is not help for that, for the expence, for the fear. As wrong as it is, I'd bet there are many women who would trade 7.5 years in prison for a life of waiting for him to find them, and the law does very little to protect victims.
@@viviancouper4636 I agree she did what she had to do but going about it the way she did...if she went through the motions and ended up killing him anyway, she could claim self-defense. In this scenario, it was murder when it didn't have to be. The guy deserved it, for sure. She doesn't deserve to be in prison and yet...the legal system penalized her for trying to frame murder (although justified) into self-defense.
@@Pascal9004 Oh this was definitely wrong, especially since he has no opportunity to defend himself in court, he could have been innocent, we will never know the truth. The justice system has never adequetly adressed domestic abuse, often leaving victims unprotected and living in fear. It is just that the the system only deems it self defence if the attack is underway, if a victim was capable of defending themselves from an attack, surely they would have done so the first time, there would not have been a second time because abusers only attack those physically weaker than them.
@@bjvu9460 - you ignored alot in that statement, but how about we wait until women get equal treatment before we start complaining about them getting the very occassional beneficial inequality.
going through the same as nicky, poor me the day i try to leave!! They always use rage alone with you, and when around others they talk smooth, they blame you for their sickness, theres no where to go.
Let me start by saying that I support the #metoo movement and I have an unpopular opinion: Something isn’t right. I don’t believe her. 1. Chris’ ex said he was gentle, that he never abused her; people don’t become vicious abusers overnight. She stretched the narrative to get the SM stamp of approval, but Chris looking at you through a window, isn’t abuse-that’s a stretch. 2. Her body language is soooo off. When she talks about the murder, she almost smiles. 3. Sherri Papini told everyone that Keith was abusing her too, and showed everyone her bruises that she either inflicted herself or got through sports. 4. No neighbors or other mutual friends ever heard or saw anything! Only her mommy group friends….Could the injuries be nonexistent (makeup) or self-inflicted? Why are all the bruises fresh? On the other hand, what’s her motive? We have to believe that she’s a histrionic/narcissistic/psychopath to do something like this for virtually NO reason. No insurance policy, loss of the father of her children. I guess full custody could be a motive? Was the motivation simply drama and being the face of domestic abuse? Victimhood is a huge commodity these days. I honestly don’t know?
@@angel288577 You really thought that was a coherent rebuttal. Yikes. Can you explain why her husband was googling “can the cops tell if you shoot her in her sleep,” if he was planning on killing her and then himself? I mean, why would he care what the cops thought if he planned on killing himself? You people are the easiest marks. 🥴
9:08 why?! Why that noise? It's so abrupt, intrusive, and off! It's a horrible sound to begin with, but to just throw it in at a time of quiet reflection, is just plain rude! It's unnecessary.
To all my fellow women, the only advice I can give in the situation is that you should try to be better judges of character, especially when choosing men. Unfortunately, you don’t have the right to take someone’s life, but you could prevent this situation by not having a child with someone you don’t know very well and who has violent tendencies. In other words, stop choosing bad men. I know there are situations where you may not have seen the person’s true colors until it was too late, but in most situations, the signs and red flags are very clear and women choose to ignore them, because their own insecurities and desire to be loved. Learn how to love yourself otherwise your daughters will likely follow in your footsteps.
I have said this time and time again. Women will tell you they ignored the red flags. I don’t know why women feel the need to defend these bad mens behaviors, it never gets better!!!! As soon as a red flag is up, leave, cut ties, block numbers. I feel sad for the families, children and friends who have to loose their special people.
Don’t victim blame buddy. Why don’t you tell men to stop abusing women?? Why is it that women should “see the red flags”. Let’s get these men some help and stop making so acceptable in society for them to use women as their punching bags.
I swear the greatest blessings I’ve had is the capacity to be alone, even enjoy solitude. I was single in my late 30s and people felt so bad for me - especially those rushing into relationships so they could have kids and most of them are now divorced with unhappy kids… if we all learned how to be at peace whether we are in a couple or not so much abuse would disappear. Those unhappy kids grow up and lead unhappy lives.
There are consequences fir every action. These men/women who abuse their partners should always consider the possibility of being killed. Sowing and reaping, a principle that plays out in our lives daily. Lord help us.
Until you've been in that situation, ongoing DV, you have no idea. Almost nothing "makes sense". The first time you lie for them after they hit you, it doesn't make sense.
I left a relationship. Had practical strangers come get me and my things along with my dog when my abusive boyfriend left for work. He stalked me for many years after that. I follow his mug shots to this day even though I haven’t heard from him since 2007. I just want to keep tabs on him.
I don't buy her lies,people like friends and family would notice dv,she had enough so she killed them,she's not upset at all after killing someone, murderer
These people they interviewed or the type to watch out for did that girl just say if he killed it'll just be a headline boyfriend kills girlfriend. That's why you guys need to stop interviewing friends and family. They always paint a picture of angels, and I'm steady seeing them on these murder shows.
Most of us experience DV at some point in our lives, I can say I am a survivor but not one time killing cross my mind, who gives you the right to take someone else’s life, you know what she will do it again and will be claiming self defense again. This justice system is ridiculous, her privilege gives her every right to do it again.
yes, she is a woman and is good looking and the only time women want equal treatment is when they want to be treated special and she killed a guy in cold blood and the court gave her slap on the wrist.
clearly you have never been in a DV situation...Lucky! This assnine comment displays the blissful ignorance of it. No one wants to have to stoop to that level...believe me. I once nearly stabbed my kids dad in the throat as we all drove down the freeway because he was such a controlling evil conniving cheating lying debasing abusive POS and I was sick to death of years of the abuse. I did not do it because my kids were in the back seat but it took me years and 3 tries to finally leave his ass. YOU have no idea how she may have suffered. I hope you never do,
@@bjvu9460 you obviously have comprehension issues she went to authorities countless times over several years with serious injuries. It is completely ridiculous to suggest that the years of documented evidence were planned for a future homicide to test out a not yet existing legal defense for victims of Dv
@@melwilowb7732 Bottom line is you left, she could have as well. She shot that man in his sleep, never filed a police report. Why do you believe her? Women lie all the time about DV. Ever heard of Amber Heard? There are so many like her. Many men are victims as well, be fair.
I don’t condone homicide but it should be understood that a man who beats his partner is creating a serious crisis that can erupt or spiral into violence down the line. One of the psychological effects of systematic abuse and torture is that the victim might someday snap and retaliate with violence. If you are an abuser seek services and support and admit what you did to friends and family so your partner can get support instead of having the burden of making people believe her. and get her and the kids to a place of safety far away from you and maybe dont date again ever or until you have done the work and have a counselor and mentor in place to prevent violence.
My mother would be ashamed if I was in that court room wearing red and black, this beautiful woman deserves none of this! Thank God she still alive,eventually it would of been her
What is wrong with young men now days?? Who taught them that absolute control over another human being (usually women and children) is the way to live???? ALSO, why do young women choose to become involved with a guy who shows "red flags" at the least or may have criminal/violent tendencies????
Everyone was telling me to just leave but I couldn’t. He took all my documents, beat me up, planned my death, manipulative and the sad part he was a cop
We were all in an abusive relationship , it called leave, 911, retraining order if she was even abused. She killed him while he was sleeping sounds cold and calculating.
How many times have judges returned abuse victims ‘to the abuser’, AFTER a trial and history of abuse. Maybe she took the gun away from the person she had to call her babies daddy., and finally turned the tables on an abuser. Sadder still, at least in Duchess County,is the law is on the side of the abuser, like SO MANY DV cases that end up with one party dead.
It’s so unfortunate what happened.She had the opportunity to have him arrested, the was told to sign a report so they could go and arrest him at the gym where he worked, she chose not to go ahead with it. The nan was sleeping and she shot him, so I take it that she had another plan to take care of the issue by planning to kill him. Someone is dead, a family lost their son forever, she’s alive and hopefully will get paroled to spend time with her children, something he’ll never get to do. She should have taken the gun and walked out the door while he was asleep. She had a choice, she made a bad decision. I hate guns, I hate violence. I agreed with the judge when he made his statement before the sentencing her, my exact opinion.
This is common with DV. People often do not speak up out of fear of the other and of the system. What would have stopped him from coming to kill her if she had reported him? A restraining order? Nope.
@@cactusmomma people seem to justify her actions. She was offered help and refused; I know there are cases where the cops say he hasn’t done anything, so, they could do nothing, but not so in her case. She had the gun, she could have taken the gun and left the house, she shot him while he was asleep. Unfortunately she has to live with the fact that she took a life and she said that, and I’m glad her sentence was reduced so she can be with her children. Murder is unacceptable and it’s a commandment of God, don’t commit murder.
“She should have” bla bla bla. You don’t really understand the psychological effects of battery and the constant fear of the abuser. You are surrounded by women who put on a smile while they suffer and some of them are chosing whether to grow old in pain in their abusive relationships because they know theyll be stalked and killed if they leave their abuser. In many cases the abuser is charismatic and gaslights the victim into feeling crazy - the victim often has not slept for weeks for fear of being killed and walks on eggshells all the time. You simply cannot project the logic of a safe and healthy person on a person who has been trapped enduring torture from someone they fear all the time
@@stayfrosty2201 you are still justifying her actions by your comment. You sound like you’ve been there before and pls change your ‘name’, to something more pleasant, ‘stay frosty’ isn’t ok, I could feel it in your comment as though you’re a bitter person. You’re loved.
Exactly ... She definitely planned this if there was a struggle why was he laying on the couch like he was sleeping and the gun was pressed to his head !! Not to mention the text to her friend saying "I haven't figured out how to kill him without getting caught so I'm still here😬"! She's disgusting all those marks were self inflicted or she had someone do it!!!! Can't believe she will be released next year!!!!!!
So if you have no photos you don't have enough evidence so no one believes anything happened to you. But if you have too many photos it must have been manipulated and no one believes anything happened to you. TBH, I don't care if he was asleep when she shot him or not. It was still self-defense as far as I'm concerned.
so agree! i feel like people that say to just leave or that she wasnt physically trying to defend herself..i gaurauntee she was so scared and so beaten down emotionally that she felt like if she didnt do it he was going to (eventually) kill her
@jehbuhdieyaspringfield7290 ... and maybe you could ask God why he left the family jewels on the outside with little to no protection? It's just shocking that humanity even survived for as long as it has... lolol
And yeah it’s not like she was angry at him because he took the last item in the store so she pulls out a gun and shoots him. Heck no heck no no no no no no Not every murder is senseless killing somebody because they got the Last item off the shelf would be senseless. But not Willing to take somebody’s life because you’re in fear of your life you know that’s different that’s totally different it is very very very very much different. That’s not the senseless crime that’s extremely understandable you know because so many people have been killed in all because they couldn’t do what she did or get out of the situation in any way you know. But fear does cause people to kill you know when a person gets scared watch out boys you’re asking for it big time. So no jumping out of bushes and scaring a woman or anybody because he might get beat up like literally beaten to a pulp. You scare somebody body enough they will beat you up or shoot you because they’re so scared they can’t stop what they’re doing their fear takes over their critical thinking. So if you ever think about scaring somebody whether it’s a guy or a girl lady or man I would never ever ever ever try it if I was you This was an abusive relationship but it can happen even just as a simple joke you know. Like it’s like at night when people jump out of the bushes and scare people for joke then they wonder why they get beat up right. It’s because I freaking scared them the fucking scared the life out of them. You don’t know what people will do if they’re scared you know so it’s not a good idea take my advice don’t do that Don’t ever ever ever try to scare somebody even if it’s a joke because you don’t know how they will React you just don’t know it’s not a good idea you know.
And he goes to say that she doesn’t have it in her to kill him. Never underestimate a mother and her children buddy like to everybody out there thinking that a mother doesn’t want to kill to protect her children. Because you are dead fucking wrong if you think that way If you think that way about a mother then obviously I think he need to say a psychiatrist because. In human nature like from like thousands and thousands of years ago people did kill there are abuse of partners for survival. It may not of been in self-defence because self-defence is like where you struggle over one knife or a gun and a person ends up getting cut or injured in someway right like it slips out of your hand and cuts the person by accident or a gun may slip out of your hand and you might fire it by accident you know that’s a self-defence thing So yeah I can kind of see her picking up the gun just willingly and firing it and killing him would be a plan to murder.
It's crazy that somebody can blame you for abuse when you did nothing. They have people put marks on themselves to blame someone. Clear indicator you marked this bad. I don't see it ending well if it's real. Which it did for the person accused of domestic violence. Please, when someone tells you they have a traumatic event in their life. Don't play hero it might not be good.
Anyone who is going through D.V. and is unsure or afraid to leave a Violent relationship Should watch the movie The burning Bed 1984 movie Starring Farrah fawcett Movie is a true story about D.V About Francine Hughes
@@missdaydreamss -no I am not a child- I'm a senior. So it's "easy" to decide to have a SECOND child with an abusive man? Seems it would have been way easier to leave and not thus NOT up murdering a man and going to prison. I would think anyone would know this!
People who are trapped in abusive relationships are really trapped in many ways: financially, physically, emotionally, lost self esteem, years hiding the abuse, losing opportunities to leave, friends who are disgusted shutting doors on you - and if victims are raped as she was and becomes pregnant they may be grateful for this ray of hope and hope that their pregnancy will usher a new chapter and bring calm and uplift the abuser. The abuser always dangles this hope as a carrot while then punishing the victim for any perceived deviation from the expectations. The victim walks on eggshells all the time terrorized. Its not just like an arms length transaction with a level playing field
As a society, we still have not managed to make it safe for people to leave abusive relationships. Particularly for women, the most dangerous time is AFTER they leave. If there are children, they are still tied to their abusers and the courts allow many abuser to use their children as a way of maintaining control over their ex. If a woman waits for her abuser to attack her before defending herself, it could be too late, if she manages to ''escape'' she will forever be living in fear. There is no good option for victims unless they have no ties and can leave their old life and everyone they know behind.
@@shesoverit2302 - try re-reading what I wrote, I did not state she did the right thing, I do not even have an opinion about whether or not she was a victim or manipulating the people around her, but statistically the later is unlikely. What I am saying is that the justice system has left victims largely unprotected, especially when there are children involved. As a society we need to find a way to do better.
@@viviancouper4636 I hear ya! but I would've shot that bastid too! I am tired of these abusive a**holes getting away with murder because in the end the victims of DV end up dead. As far as I am concerned she did the right thing. There should be a law in NY that all those that have restraint orders on their abusers (mostly women who are abused by men) have the right to carry and shoot to kill if their lives are in danger.
A society that has no real respect for women. That's why so many do not report Rapes.
@@justsaying3729 - you are right, systems punish women for reporting, punish them for defending themselves and punish them for asking for basic human rights.
@@shesoverit2302- We're commenting after watching an almost 10min clip of this tragic story. But within this 9min25sec clip it tells us that her therapist had to convince her to have a FORENSIC nurse to photographly document her wounds, which they showed us some of the pictures. To me that alone makes her story seem MORE creditable & believable. Because you would think a FORENSIC nurse would be able to recognize SELF-inflected wounds!? And her having someone else help to get rid of her partner/kids father by inflecting those wounds on her isn't believable to me also. Because her partner would've also noticed them like everyone else & he would be asking questions, wanting answers, & telling people close to him that something isn't right, as humans we tend to talk & talk a lot. But like I stated earlier we're commenting on an almost 10mins clip of this tragic story. So I have to ask, do you PERSONALLY know more about this story? Also have you ever been in an abusive relationship!?
With regard to domestic abuse and violence, the juror's who asked “Why didnt she leave ?” Clearly have no understanding of the subject. It is also appalling that the court was not allowed to hear that the husband had videoed the sexual and domestic violence and downloaded to porn sites. This woman’s case needs to be seriously appealed and reviewed properly.
Thank you. If they only knew it wasn’t so easy to leave 💔😪 that’s why it is so many spouses being killed by each other.
Thank you. If they only knew it wasn’t so easy to leave 💔😪 that’s why it is so many spouses being killed by each other.
she didnt sign the paper to have him arrested.....
Because women love bad boys.
@@dominiquexo4772Stop blaming everyone else because of women’s trash decisions.
This is why so many women don't report abuse because of this right here this is so sad what does this say to the many women who are abused ??? Disgusting
she still killed someone who was sleeping
She should have got life in a federal prison. The issue was not him. it was her.
I believe its self defense. Most ppl don't know what dv is like till they have been there. The fear is real and desperate
So would you leave the scene while your two children where there with a dead man?
She brought the kids. Not leave them.
He was sleeping so even if he was beating her butt he didn’t that night she couldn’t have left with the kids
Absolutely!
@@sandraruland3846 they were in her car...backseat asleep
I keep telling women to just stay SINGLE but they refuse to listen and they keep signing up to be cheated on, abused, mistreated and now killed. Leave these men alone out here. Focus on your relationship with God and Christ, helping your family members who already have children, your community and on bettering yourself. If you need and want someone to share your life with, make sure they are on Jesus Christ team. Also, being SINGLE does not mean being alone. Family and friends are there for that purpose. I am an Advice Coach and the calls, texts, and e-mails that I receive on a regular basis is mind blowing. Ladies, STAY SINGLE. There's nothing in the world better than PEACE and a DRAMA FREE LIFE.
Amen 🙏
What about building a legacy/ having kids
There's alot of people that are on that christ team your talking about that are the most cheating sly abusive men actually
You are half right. However, Iwent to a Catholic School there is not so much safety there as you would think.
Absolutely 💯
There’s no proof he ever hurt or abused her she had a gun in her hand there was no threat he was shot gun to skin in the head she’s a liar and was sleeping around including with married man
man this woman lying, she was clearly most abusive aspect about that relationship
Guilty....dude was asleep. Contact wound....basically executed him.
Dude. No.
@@susanphillips7340 dude yes
She is a manipulative psychopath!!! It's funny she was so scared of him yet in the trial they showed texts of her talking pure Sh#t to him calling him stupid and a man child.. don't think a scared girl who was abused would do that !!!!! C'mon ppl
So far it sounds to me like she saved her own life.. People saw it.. There are photos of bruises over and over.. What do they mean nobody has this much documentation? Do they not see the times we live in now?
It's uncommon to see documentation like this *because of the times will still live in*. So, because she is the outlier who was suggested some help to build a case against her abuser, they doubt it and use it against her.
I had pics of my ex-husband’s abuse each and every time before I could finally get out and this was back in the day where I had to have the developed at a pharmacy.
she chose to live better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6
Honestly in these cases sometimes it’s kill or be killed .. she did the right thing
@Dans white yes I have… what makes u think she’s either?
@@zuljasinanaj429 what if she did all those bruises to herself? Because some orost women would do that to get an innocent man to go to prison.
My mother in law tried to do that to my fiance.
@@s.s.9160 haven’t looked into the eviction this case! However, if I recall correctly there was a history of physical abuse there sooooo I’m sure she didn’t just sit home and make up fantasy to murder her husband …
period!!
Can someone in law please explain to me why valuable evidence might be left out of a case? It seems here that allegedly he was uploading videos of him abusing her physically and sexually onto porn sites. Why would info like this be left out? Seems it may have been helpful in this case, for the jury’s sake anyway.
Because they don’t care about abused women!!
Do they? Never heard that. All I recall is these two lunatics would fight and holler at each other other time.
There was a very good reason.
1) It wasn’t actually porn. It was pics of her in bondage etc. 2) Not a single pic included Chris 3) Most importantly, in order for evidence to admissible, the defense had to “lay a foundation”, meaning provide evidence of who took the pics, when & who loaded the pics online. The defense wasn’t able to do that, therefore it’s inadmissible. The judge could have also ruled that the evidence was more prejudicial than probative. But that’s not the ruling he made. It was based on lack of foundation.
Hulu has the episode. Unless someone has been beaten down mentally, debased, degraded, then you just cant even imagine how it chips away at your soul...outwardly you put on a smile and laugh and joke and act normal. YES you will lie to anyone who asks you about it, you will shut down when asked to communicate. When your alone with your abuser, its a whole different story! YES you know theres help, theres people telling you the right thing to do. There is counseling.. but by then your so beatdown you have no confidence to make the bold choice to leave. The abuser controls you and you know what theyre capable of, what theyll do to torment you. They might even change for a bit, but they always return to the abuser they are. This abuse will take years to overcome the mental degradation...it will rear its ugly head in your workplace, your confidence to do more, even how you mature and grow over time. Mental abuse is worse than physical which can heal. Words attach themselves to your spirit. ONE MORE THING: NEVER TALK TO COPS - THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS!
Well said!!!!
no this lady insane
You feel like your at war with yourself to even want to live. 😢
I wish y’all uploaded everything together
yep
You can find this entire episode on Hulu under 2020.
Oh great how many parts am i looking at?
@@ameriefan01 ohh yes! That's why I love Hulu! I was watching something on Hulu and forgot i was on Hulu and wanted to look at comments lmao i ended up finding it on RUclips and watching like 6parts.
Yes...n b prepared for them to leave u hangin for the last part they nvr upload
She killed him point blank...!
The thing I hate most is men hitting a woman, go hit a man see what a response you get!
do you hate it more than a woman hitting a man?
Y'know.... 🤷♂️ she pled guilty! So do you have any issue with abusive women?
nothing
I agree but I’d rather be “hit” or “beat” any day with a fist rather than his mouth. Words cut deeper.
She was sentenced to 19 but the Violence Survivors Act stepped in and they got her down to 7 1/2 yrs. She will be out 2024. Sad. Hope she gets help mentally.
I pray she went through enough
She should still be in prison. Should never be let out. The only sad thing is here kids. They get to be around a MONSTER
She’s a murderer. To get out of prison for murder after 7.5 years is wrong. Her actions and behaviors are indicative of someone who was planning a murder.
The victim was sleeping on the couch when she chose to kill him and not leave the home with her children.
Whether it was a kill or be killed situation, we will never know. He is no longer alive to share his side of the story.
She killed him in his sleep. Self-defense my ass.
Yea. This woman is the DEVIL. The guy was NOT the problem
Kill or be killed? He was asleep grab the kids and go to a families house or the police station right near your house. Come on now!
women are always the victims even when they're not. Didn't you know?
Not everyone has that option or options
Grant Joseph she's white and a female, claiming DV. DV is being used for a pass on everything and anything from Parental Kidnapping, alienation to murder.
It doesn't work like that when leaving an abusive man. He will stalk, harass, rape, and kidnap a woman, even kill her. That's why it's kill or be killed, they will only leave you alone if they are dead.
@@sarah69420 No maybe not in your case and I'm not saying you had a case. But every single case is different.
I would like know more about her character prior to all this-somethings not adding up.
My heart hurts for her. I think about her case all the time. I hope she’s found peace and healing.
She has a deceitful look in her eyes, I am gonna say this no matter who disagrees... she is a liar, and she killed him in cold blood, the gun was a close contact shot if she killed him in self defense why was he shot at such close proximity? Its easy to self inflict bruises and blame a spouse who is going to doubt you‽ go watch Sherri Papini case and see how she fooled everyone until her lies were exposed
She had bite marks on her back
@@sageelizabethfarrellwood could be done in heat of passion??
Nikki is a liar. Amber heard. But hes dead , he cant even defend himself
As a DV victim and having CPS involved because of it! I can relate until I see more facts
You are a DV because thats your type. You like the edgy good looking or half good looking bad boys and not the choir boys but complain about what comes with it. YOU ARE NO VICTIM. You play with fire and you will get burn... I have known so many women like you and if you had to settle with the boring guy who wouldnt squash a grape in a fruit fight you would find him boring , treat him like ish, cheat on him with the type you are with so save the sorry sob story for your diary
I see no remorse and she's always looking down...guilt???
100% Guilty. She's playing a role for sure
Wheres the full episode???
It was on Dateline on television
She was no victim
Tragic situation, but she needed to report it. You can’t just kill people without suffering consequences
she killed him cold blood
@@dakalodk
No she didn’t you dipshit
You clearly have NO understanding of how abusive relationships work.
They isolate you, they belittle you, but most of all: they scare you. And our Justice system is soooo messed up that the abuser often gets MORE power because they are MASTER manipulators. She was terrified of what would happen to her and her kids if she left.
@@SavvyMuhon I do understand abusive relationships…that’s how I have managed to never be in one. And it doesn’t change the law. You kill someone out side of an immediate threat to your life and it will be called murder. That sucks, but there is no way to create new laws that would allow people to kill people if they felt they couldn’t leave a relationship. It would become everyone’s defense for murdering any spouse.
Wheres her interrogation video
If you get abused just leave the person
My hs boyfriend lost his life in a double murder because he was friends with a young woman who was in an abusive relationship with her children's father. The guy stabbed the 19 and 20 year old friends to death and was sentenced to two life sentences in prison.
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Huh, sounds like a murder.
You're kidding me, she shot him in the head while he slept on the couch. I'm confused. Is that allowed if you say. They did me wrong in the past. So I feel justified in killing them ?? Hhhmmm. Emhhuu ok got it
I would be absolutely hysterical if I HAD to kill my husband. I wouldn’t be able to form a sentence nothing. And I would’ve called the police immediately!!!
Exactly
Ma'am yiu have never been mentally abused then! You'd know better to not shoot off a comment like that
You just don't know that. Innocent people have been demonized because they didn't act the way people think they should
Not if he's been abusive to you for years.
She isn't you neither you have reacted that way...since your just assuming and haven't experience in reality. Everyone reacts differently.
Sad but she should have reported it..killing him wasnt right
It was self-defense. Has she gone to the cops? She would’ve ended up killed by husband. Cops can’t protect you, restraining orders, obviously don’t work. Poor woman , I hope the years go by fast and you can have a new life. ❤️
As a woman I don’t believe her one bit. She did it because since the time of her childhood trauma she has probably hated men & wanted someone to pay. Everything was staged. She played those ppl like a flute. She should be in prison
Agree 💯
Some of this reminds me of Gabby Petito in Utah when calls were made to 911 about a domestic dispute and a witness said BL was slapping her, then Gabby makes herself seem like the abuser to protect him and lies to police, typical in DV situations. I wish Gabby would've protected herself like this woman did here. We will see more and more of this in the near future because the system does not protect women in abusive relationships. Kill or be killed? Not even a doubt in my mind I would rather do whatever is necessary to protect myself and my loved ones.
He had beaten Gabby down mentally and physically. I wish she could walk away.
@@justsaying3729 A lesson we can all learn from. Plan the escape and walk away asap. She had many opportunities to do so while in Utah and Wyoming. I personally would've kicked him out of the van and keep going even if i run him over, don't care, just get the hell out asap and keep going don't look back. She also should've seek protection from her parents, that would've definitely kept Brian away. Then put a restraint order on him and go live with her mom or dad for a while until the threat is gone. Unfortunately, when in a DV situation you gotta lay low for a while and if that isn't enough to stop them from stalking, you move out of the country if you can. I don't know but it's insane that in the 21st century nothing has changed for DV victims.
Brian and Chris lookalike also.
She’s Guilty she did that stuff to her self
You can never understand women who stay in these situations unless you’ve been there yourself 😢💔 #freenikki !!!! Those kids need their mom !!!!
The question at the end of the day is can you execute your abuser while he is not showing an immediate threat? Turns out in New York State you can’t but with new legislation passed you get an easy sentence from 19 years to 7 years. Girl got lucky.
7 years? American men be on your guards then. 2:19 from the drawing of the crime scene, it appears that Chris was sleeping/resting when he was shot, not fighting with her. so not a threat. I kind of suspect her to have killed him in cold blood and played the scene of the abused one.
@@landang7906 I agree with you.
Lucky?? Are you nuts?
Not sure that murder is an answer to domestic abuse except in a moment of self defence. Yes, leaving is an imperfect solution but it has to be tried first.
I just think she's not a good story teller, her brain cells must b full of holes. This woman suffered too much drama.. sorry 4r the death of heR husband, but she needs an appeal. The guy abused her 4r yrs.
She did the right thing
It's sad that she didn't report it but chose to kill him instead. On the bright side, her sentence was reduced from 19 years to 7.5 years. However...there was no need to go through with the murder if she just reported it and tried leaving him.
or, or, she killed him, got the equal treatment that women have been fighting so hard for with a touch of special treatment because she is a woman. Shooting someone who is not attacking you is not self defense even though white people and women seem to get away with that description to detail.
We believe you because you are a woman and gave her less than half of her sentence even when there is no evidence of what she is saying. She sounded real calm and calculated for someone who is terrified of what had occurred with someone ending up dead... This was a planned killing but she is a woman and easy on the eyes
You are right, but what then? If she is believed she might be able to get a restraining order, but if/when he gets visitation rights to the kids, it is next to impossible for her to keep her address secret. Women are more likely to be killed after leaving an abusive relationship, many abused women have to move over and over again after their abusers track them down, and there is not help for that, for the expence, for the fear. As wrong as it is, I'd bet there are many women who would trade 7.5 years in prison for a life of waiting for him to find them, and the law does very little to protect victims.
@@viviancouper4636 I agree she did what she had to do but going about it the way she did...if she went through the motions and ended up killing him anyway, she could claim self-defense. In this scenario, it was murder when it didn't have to be. The guy deserved it, for sure. She doesn't deserve to be in prison and yet...the legal system penalized her for trying to frame murder (although justified) into self-defense.
@@Pascal9004 Oh this was definitely wrong, especially since he has no opportunity to defend himself in court, he could have been innocent, we will never know the truth. The justice system has never adequetly adressed domestic abuse, often leaving victims unprotected and living in fear. It is just that the the system only deems it self defence if the attack is underway, if a victim was capable of defending themselves from an attack, surely they would have done so the first time, there would not have been a second time because abusers only attack those physically weaker than them.
@@bjvu9460 - you ignored alot in that statement, but how about we wait until women get equal treatment before we start complaining about them getting the very occassional beneficial inequality.
Shes the worst liar ever wow 😳
Victim blamer
going through the same as nicky, poor me the day i try to leave!! They always use rage alone with you, and when around others they talk smooth, they blame you for their sickness, theres no where to go.
Let me start by saying that I support the #metoo movement and I have an unpopular opinion: Something isn’t right. I don’t believe her. 1. Chris’ ex said he was gentle, that he never abused her; people don’t become vicious abusers overnight. She stretched the narrative to get the SM stamp of approval, but Chris looking at you through a window, isn’t abuse-that’s a stretch. 2. Her body language is soooo off. When she talks about the murder, she almost smiles. 3. Sherri Papini told everyone that Keith was abusing her too, and showed everyone her bruises that she either inflicted herself or got through sports. 4. No neighbors or other mutual friends ever heard or saw anything! Only her mommy group friends….Could the injuries be nonexistent (makeup) or self-inflicted? Why are all the bruises fresh?
On the other hand, what’s her motive? We have to believe that she’s a histrionic/narcissistic/psychopath to do something like this for virtually NO reason. No insurance policy, loss of the father of her children. I guess full custody could be a motive?
Was the motivation simply drama and being the face of domestic abuse? Victimhood is a huge commodity these days. I honestly don’t know?
You really thought you did something with this comment eh. yikes.
@@angel288577 You really thought that was a coherent rebuttal. Yikes. Can you explain why her husband was googling “can the cops tell if you shoot her in her sleep,” if he was planning on killing her and then himself? I mean, why would he care what the cops thought if he planned on killing himself? You people are the easiest marks. 🥴
@@KingEdwardMD I do understand it. I used to work in clinical psychology. That’s precisely what she did.
9:08 why?! Why that noise? It's so abrupt, intrusive, and off! It's a horrible sound to begin with, but to just throw it in at a time of quiet reflection, is just plain rude! It's unnecessary.
To all my fellow women, the only advice I can give in the situation is that you should try to be better judges of character, especially when choosing men. Unfortunately, you don’t have the right to take someone’s life, but you could prevent this situation by not having a child with someone you don’t know very well and who has violent tendencies. In other words, stop choosing bad men. I know there are situations where you may not have seen the person’s true colors until it was too late, but in most situations, the signs and red flags are very clear and women choose to ignore them, because their own insecurities and desire to be loved. Learn how to love yourself otherwise your daughters will likely follow in your footsteps.
I have said this time and time again. Women will tell you they ignored the red flags. I don’t know why women feel the need to defend these bad mens behaviors, it never gets better!!!! As soon as a red flag is up, leave, cut ties, block numbers. I feel sad for the families, children and friends who have to loose their special people.
Don’t victim blame buddy. Why don’t you tell men to stop abusing women?? Why is it that women should “see the red flags”. Let’s get these men some help and stop making so acceptable in society for them to use women as their punching bags.
Sounds like victim blaming.
I swear the greatest blessings I’ve had is the capacity to be alone, even enjoy solitude. I was single in my late 30s and people felt so bad for me - especially those rushing into relationships so they could have kids and most of them are now divorced with unhappy kids… if we all learned how to be at peace whether we are in a couple or not so much abuse would disappear. Those unhappy kids grow up and lead unhappy lives.
@@tereseday4060 sounds like a lack of self accountability.
Bruises on girls can happen from anything. Why is she looking away with her ‘injuries’?
There are consequences fir every action. These men/women who abuse their partners should always consider the possibility of being killed. Sowing and reaping, a principle that plays out in our lives daily. Lord help us.
Until you've been in that situation, ongoing DV, you have no idea. Almost nothing "makes sense". The first time you lie for them after they hit you, it doesn't make sense.
I left a relationship. Had practical strangers come get me and my things along with my dog when my abusive boyfriend left for work. He stalked me for many years after that. I follow his mug shots to this day even though I haven’t heard from him since 2007. I just want to keep tabs on him.
And you’re still probably attracted to bad boys.
Disgraceful she is in jail after suffering DV. She needs to be at home with her children.
Let her out!
When you get to the stage of kill or be killed, it’s time to put all you can into escaping.
She did what she had to do. Case closed
I don't buy her lies,people like friends and family would notice dv,she had enough so she killed them,she's not upset at all after killing someone, murderer
Kill or be killed. Sounds like the story of most killings in the black hood only the system doesn't see it with empathy.
These people they interviewed or the type to watch out for did that girl just say if he killed it'll just be a headline boyfriend kills girlfriend. That's why you guys need to stop interviewing friends and family. They always paint a picture of angels, and I'm steady seeing them on these murder shows.
Most of us experience DV at some point in our lives, I can say I am a survivor but not one time killing cross my mind, who gives you the right to take someone else’s life, you know what she will do it again and will be claiming self defense again.
This justice system is ridiculous, her privilege gives her every right to do it again.
Amen 👏💯❤️
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She actually thought she’d get away with murdering her kids father in cold blood.
That’s how crazy people think, normal human beings could never understand. There’s no logic here
yes, she is a woman and is good looking and the only time women want equal treatment is when they want to be treated special and she killed a guy in cold blood and the court gave her slap on the wrist.
clearly you have never been in a DV situation...Lucky! This assnine comment displays the blissful ignorance of it. No one wants to have to stoop to that level...believe me. I once nearly stabbed my kids dad in the throat as we all drove down the freeway because he was such a controlling evil conniving cheating lying debasing abusive POS and I was sick to death of years of the abuse. I did not do it because my kids were in the back seat but it took me years and 3 tries to finally leave his ass. YOU have no idea how she may have suffered. I hope you never do,
@@bjvu9460 you obviously have comprehension issues she went to authorities countless times over several years with serious injuries. It is completely ridiculous to suggest that the years of documented evidence were planned for a future homicide to test out a not yet existing legal defense for victims of Dv
@@melwilowb7732 Bottom line is you left, she could have as well. She shot that man in his sleep, never filed a police report. Why do you believe her? Women lie all the time about DV. Ever heard of Amber Heard? There are so many like her. Many men are victims as well, be fair.
She nailed it. If it's true or not, she'll get to live the rest of her life.
that's what can happen when you fall asleep on the couch late at night ! :-)
Or go out with friends, relatives and come home to a plate of food sprinkled with cyanide.
I don’t condone homicide but it should be understood that a man who beats his partner is creating a serious crisis that can erupt or spiral into violence down the line. One of the psychological effects of systematic abuse and torture is that the victim might someday snap and retaliate with violence. If you are an abuser seek services and support and admit what you did to friends and family so your partner can get support instead of having the burden of making people believe her. and get her and the kids to a place of safety far away from you and maybe dont date again ever or until you have done the work and have a counselor and mentor in place to prevent violence.
My mother would be ashamed if I was in that court room wearing red and black, this beautiful woman deserves none of this! Thank God she still alive,eventually it would of been her
If this is true or not the way she went about it was murder. The positioning of his body dismisses her story. She should get time
Im glad Kris’s is gone
its pretty clear that she shot him whilst he was asleep, the question is why
What is wrong with young men now days?? Who taught them that absolute control over another human being (usually women and children) is the way to live???? ALSO, why do young women choose to become involved with a guy who shows "red flags" at the least or may have criminal/violent tendencies????
Trauma bonding.
Everyone was telling me to just leave but I couldn’t. He took all my documents, beat me up, planned my death, manipulative and the sad part he was a cop
We were all in an abusive relationship , it called leave, 911, retraining order if she was even abused. She killed him while he was sleeping sounds cold and calculating.
How many times have judges returned abuse victims ‘to the abuser’, AFTER a trial and history of abuse. Maybe she took the gun away from the person she had to call her babies daddy., and finally turned the tables on an abuser. Sadder still, at least in Duchess County,is the law is on the side of the abuser, like SO MANY DV cases that end up with one party dead.
It’s so unfortunate what happened.She had the opportunity to have him arrested, the was told to sign a report so they could go and arrest him at the gym where he worked, she chose not to go ahead with it. The nan was sleeping and she shot him, so I take it that she had another plan to take care of the issue by planning to kill him. Someone is dead, a family lost their son forever, she’s alive and hopefully will get paroled to spend time with her children, something he’ll never get to do. She should have taken the gun and walked out the door while he was asleep. She had a choice, she made a bad decision. I hate guns, I hate violence. I agreed with the judge when he made his statement before the sentencing her, my exact opinion.
This is common with DV. People often do not speak up out of fear of the other and of the system. What would have stopped him from coming to kill her if she had reported him? A restraining order? Nope.
@@cactusmomma people seem to justify her actions. She was offered help and refused; I know there are cases where the cops say he hasn’t done anything, so, they could do nothing, but not so in her case. She had the gun, she could have taken the gun and left the house, she shot him while he was asleep. Unfortunately she has to live with the fact that she took a life and she said that, and I’m glad her sentence was reduced so she can be with her children. Murder is unacceptable and it’s a commandment of God, don’t commit murder.
“She should have” bla bla bla. You don’t really understand the psychological effects of battery and the constant fear of the abuser. You are surrounded by women who put on a smile while they suffer and some of them are chosing whether to grow old in pain in their abusive relationships because they know theyll be stalked and killed if they leave their abuser. In many cases the abuser is charismatic and gaslights the victim into feeling crazy - the victim often has not slept for weeks for fear of being killed and walks on eggshells all the time. You simply cannot project the logic of a safe and healthy person on a person who has been trapped enduring torture from someone they fear all the time
@@stayfrosty2201 you are still justifying her actions by your comment. You sound like you’ve been there before and pls change your ‘name’, to something more pleasant, ‘stay frosty’ isn’t ok, I could feel it in your comment as though you’re a bitter person. You’re loved.
Exactly ... She definitely planned this if there was a struggle why was he laying on the couch like he was sleeping and the gun was pressed to his head !! Not to mention the text to her friend saying "I haven't figured out how to kill him without getting caught so I'm still here😬"! She's disgusting all those marks were self inflicted or she had someone do it!!!! Can't believe she will be released next year!!!!!!
God Speed Nikki !
So if you have no photos you don't have enough evidence so no one believes anything happened to you. But if you have too many photos it must have been manipulated and no one believes anything happened to you. TBH, I don't care if he was asleep when she shot him or not. It was still self-defense as far as I'm concerned.
so agree! i feel like people that say to just leave or that she wasnt physically trying to defend herself..i gaurauntee she was so scared and so beaten down emotionally that she felt like if she didnt do it he was going to (eventually) kill her
god loves yall bro
@jehbuhdieyaspringfield7290 ... and maybe you could ask God why he left the family jewels on the outside with little to no protection? It's just shocking that humanity even survived for as long as it has...
lolol
No one has the right to take a life!!!
Maybe she perhaps had enough and had to do what she thought she had to do.
A lot of women have been there.
So killing someone while sleeping is okay?
The guy was a monster, no different then the burning bed, I believe her.
And yeah it’s not like she was angry at him because he took the last item in the store so she pulls out a gun and shoots him. Heck no heck no no no no no no
Not every murder is senseless killing somebody because they got the Last item off the shelf would be senseless. But not
Willing to take somebody’s life because you’re in fear of your life you know that’s different that’s totally different it is very very very very much different. That’s not the senseless crime that’s extremely understandable you know because so many people have been killed in all because they couldn’t do what she did or get out of the situation in any way you know.
But fear does cause people to kill you know when a person gets scared watch out boys you’re asking for it big time. So no jumping out of bushes and scaring a woman or anybody because he might get beat up like literally beaten to a pulp.
You scare somebody body enough they will beat you up or shoot you because they’re so scared they can’t stop what they’re doing their fear takes over their critical thinking. So if you ever think about scaring somebody whether it’s a guy or a girl lady or man I would never ever ever ever try it if I was you
This was an abusive relationship but it can happen even just as a simple joke you know. Like it’s like at night when people jump out of the bushes and scare people for joke then they wonder why they get beat up right. It’s because I freaking scared them the fucking scared the life out of them. You don’t know what people will do if they’re scared you know so it’s not a good idea take my advice don’t do that
Don’t ever ever ever try to scare somebody even if it’s a joke because you don’t know how they will React you just don’t know it’s not a good idea you know.
Who pulled the gun out, FIRST. ?
And he goes to say that she doesn’t have it in her to kill him. Never underestimate a mother and her children buddy like to everybody out there thinking that a mother doesn’t want to kill to protect her children. Because you are dead fucking wrong if you think that way
If you think that way about a mother then obviously I think he need to say a psychiatrist because. In human nature like from like thousands and thousands of years ago people did kill there are abuse of partners for survival.
It may not of been in self-defence because self-defence is like where you struggle over one knife or a gun and a person ends up getting cut or injured in someway right like it slips out of your hand and cuts the person by accident or a gun may slip out of your hand and you might fire it by accident you know that’s a self-defence thing
So yeah I can kind of see her picking up the gun just willingly and firing it and killing him would be a plan to murder.
It's crazy that somebody can blame you for abuse when you did nothing. They have people put marks on themselves to blame someone. Clear indicator you marked this bad. I don't see it ending well if it's real. Which it did for the person accused of domestic violence. Please, when someone tells you they have a traumatic event in their life. Don't play hero it might not be good.
what if the marks were from a bruseKit makeup same used by some actress😏😉
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Or Sherri Papini case self inflicted🤷♀️
The text, though, was it taken off Nikki's phone? Because the blue would be her and the white would be the sender....
That is self defense
"I though Chris said he was hot in the shed..."
Real or not, that's a lot of drama in one life.
Anyone who is going through D.V.
and is unsure or afraid to leave a
Violent relationship
Should watch the movie
The burning Bed 1984 movie
Starring Farrah fawcett
Movie is a true story about D.V
About Francine Hughes
A lot of people in the comments don’t know anything about DV victims. They must live dreaming about unicorns and rainbows. I am glad she’s free now
I heard she got released now in janruary good for her...
Go Samantha!!
if you abuse a woman and she kills you … it is what it is… stop being abusive
@@KingEdwardMD “clearly” lying. I don’t think so. my point stands . IF you abuse a woman and she kills you OH WELL
@@KingEdwardMD argue with yourself. you must be an abuser and if you are I hope that woman fixes the situation permanently 🤷🏿♂️
Boy, it's just too many marks in the world.
She had TWO children with this man! TWO! WHY do you go on to have a second child with an abusive man? The FIRST time a man abuses you, you must leave.
Not that easy. Alot of dv victims stay for many reasons. Are u a child? Assumed anyone would know this
@@missdaydreamss -no I am not a child- I'm a senior. So it's "easy" to decide to have a SECOND child with an abusive man? Seems it would have been way easier to leave and not thus NOT up murdering a man and going to prison. I would think anyone would know this!
People who are trapped in abusive relationships are really trapped in many ways: financially, physically, emotionally, lost self esteem, years hiding the abuse, losing opportunities to leave, friends who are disgusted shutting doors on you - and if victims are raped as she was and becomes pregnant they may be grateful for this ray of hope and hope that their pregnancy will usher a new chapter and bring calm and uplift the abuser. The abuser always dangles this hope as a carrot while then punishing the victim for any perceived deviation from the expectations. The victim walks on eggshells all the time terrorized. Its not just like an arms length transaction with a level playing field
This was murder . Report him for DV get him arrested get a restraining order he was a horrible person yes but murder was not the way .
They always get out and go looking for wife. Alot of times killing them restraining orders are a joke