It's a startle response, not a fear one. You can do the exact same things in the video and get no response from them whatsoever if the goats see it coming. Mythbusters even did a bit on them and had trouble filming the response because the goats kept figuring out where Tory and Kari were and what they were going to do. It doesn't hurt the goats at all.
@ the “startle” response is the fear response. It activates the flee, fight, freeze response or the HPA axis. Doing so repeatedly certainly has negative physical effects and psychological consequences.
@@jdenmark1287 They are not the same thing. That's why horror movies filled with only jump scares don't actually scare people. You're equating a physical reaction (the startle response) with an emotional reaction (fear). And those really are very different things.
@ no, they are not. They both originate from the exact same system. The way you are trying to operationalize the terms is immaterial as the “emotional reaction” is from the physical process, or biochemical reactions. Now it is true that you can induce the physical process by a pretend threat, IE, through emotional manipulation , but that is done by mimicking the physical processes of threat response, like music that mimics a rapid heartbeat or breathing , tunnel vision or low light . So you claiming that startling these goats does them no harm is like claiming if I punch you in the solar plexus I’m not doing you any harm, as I don’t actually stop your breathing or cause permanent damage. If I was to do that to you even once, you would be conditioned to flinch every time I made a move towards you. That flinch would be just the tip of the iceberg as internally the HPA axis would be activated almost as fast as the flinch.
@@jdenmark1287 The startle response is a physical reaction meant to create space so you can mentally process what *might* be dangerous from a safer distance. It is not fear - the fear comes after the mental processing. For example - animals at a watering hole when there's crocodiles. They will flinch away from the water over the slightest thing, but they go right back to drinking if they don't see anything to be afraid of. That's not fear because an animal in constant fear dies from that fear. That's how endurance hunters, like humans, hunt - you scare the thing for long enough that it either keels over, like deer have been known to do when hunted by people who just keep coming after them, or they run so low on energy that they can't run. None of that is the startle response. The startle response is just the pure muscle memory instinct of creating distance and then figuring out if you need to be afraid or not. Just because some people choose to be afraid automatically *after* that instance of jolting doesn't make them the same thing. It just means some people have conditioned themselves to treat it as the same thing. A great example of the opposite of that, where people can become completely and totally desensitized to the startle response is soldiers who've been in active combat for a good while. They can get into a state where fear never follows the startle response - basically the opposite of PTSD. Special forces have a lot of those kinds of soldiers.
Is the goat fainting, their version of playing possum? These teams are all wonderful, but you just can't beat a marriage like Ayoade and Fielding are the goldiest of gold!
@@ScottieMacF epileptic attack basically, all their muscles cramp up. They wish they fainted, they're entirely conscious while this happens. The reason they were bred for this is because it massively increases muscle size: More meat.
@@bramvanduijn8086 I was trying to be funny and do what Jimmy did when she wouldn't shut up, and I wound up actually learning something from you. Thanks.
Ambergris is not from the vomit That's the marketing story that's been told about it, but it's actually found in the poop. IT forms in the intestine. Mel's answer is the most correct one.
The people who collect it do. How often would a whale have to be sick to make enough to add to perfume? Pooping at least once a day is more or less guaranteed.
Every one of those questions have came up on Q.I. years ago. Guess the compiler just watches other shows and smokes too much weed to come up with a dinosaur as a special guest. Sorry to be a downer, but maybe it's because Jimmy Carr has made a career out of that made up laugh and looking like a possessed ventriloquists dummy!
I can't imagine anyone ever watching this show to see Jimmy. I think he's there to be unfunny so the good parts seem even better. Which they are relative to his contribution.
@icturner23 Two of the "correct" answers are incorrect though. Ambergris isn't vomit, it's found in the faeces. The goats don't faint, their muscles seize up, similar to an epileptic seizure.
Yeah I don't get the hype for Jimmy Carr... all his jokes are so clearly manufactured and rehearsed. Which would be fine if they were funny, but it's essentially the same humour level as a pubescent boy. Also kind of feels like he doesn't write any of his own content, he's just an actor.
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Noel, Richard and Mel are a wonderful combination 😂
I dont know bout all of that. but that Dino costume was absolutely amazing!!!!
sneaky of Mel there! 1:49 throws off the other teams!
I was so confused when she clearly said that, but then didn't have it as an answer. Lol
At 8:07 Noel knew he had taken too many drugs
They don’t faint. Their body locks up but they never lose consciousness. Which is what makes it so cruel to scare them.
It's a startle response, not a fear one. You can do the exact same things in the video and get no response from them whatsoever if the goats see it coming.
Mythbusters even did a bit on them and had trouble filming the response because the goats kept figuring out where Tory and Kari were and what they were going to do. It doesn't hurt the goats at all.
@ the “startle” response is the fear response. It activates the flee, fight, freeze response or the HPA axis. Doing so repeatedly certainly has negative physical effects and psychological consequences.
@@jdenmark1287 They are not the same thing. That's why horror movies filled with only jump scares don't actually scare people.
You're equating a physical reaction (the startle response) with an emotional reaction (fear).
And those really are very different things.
@ no, they are not. They both originate from the exact same system. The way you are trying to operationalize the terms is immaterial as the “emotional reaction” is from the physical process, or biochemical reactions. Now it is true that you can induce the physical process by a pretend threat, IE, through emotional manipulation , but that is done by mimicking the physical processes of threat response, like music that mimics a rapid heartbeat or breathing , tunnel vision or low light .
So you claiming that startling these goats does them no harm is like claiming if I punch you in the solar plexus I’m not doing you any harm, as I don’t actually stop your breathing or cause permanent damage. If I was to do that to you even once, you would be conditioned to flinch every time I made a move towards you. That flinch would be just the tip of the iceberg as internally the HPA axis would be activated almost as fast as the flinch.
@@jdenmark1287 The startle response is a physical reaction meant to create space so you can mentally process what *might* be dangerous from a safer distance.
It is not fear - the fear comes after the mental processing.
For example - animals at a watering hole when there's crocodiles.
They will flinch away from the water over the slightest thing, but they go right back to drinking if they don't see anything to be afraid of. That's not fear because an animal in constant fear dies from that fear. That's how endurance hunters, like humans, hunt - you scare the thing for long enough that it either keels over, like deer have been known to do when hunted by people who just keep coming after them, or they run so low on energy that they can't run.
None of that is the startle response. The startle response is just the pure muscle memory instinct of creating distance and then figuring out if you need to be afraid or not.
Just because some people choose to be afraid automatically *after* that instance of jolting doesn't make them the same thing. It just means some people have conditioned themselves to treat it as the same thing.
A great example of the opposite of that, where people can become completely and totally desensitized to the startle response is soldiers who've been in active combat for a good while. They can get into a state where fear never follows the startle response - basically the opposite of PTSD. Special forces have a lot of those kinds of soldiers.
“It was pre-language” is such a great joke that seemed a bit lost in the hubbub.
Is the goat fainting, their version of playing possum? These teams are all wonderful, but you just can't beat a marriage like Ayoade and Fielding are the goldiest of gold!
I've seen it on the computer!😂
Never clicked into a video quicker
Same
So far...
Same, despite having seen the episode 500 times
But does it faint? No, really, does it?
Obv🤣
What does it do?
@@ScottieMacF epileptic attack basically, all their muscles cramp up. They wish they fainted, they're entirely conscious while this happens.
The reason they were bred for this is because it massively increases muscle size: More meat.
@@bramvanduijn8086 I was trying to be funny and do what Jimmy did when she wouldn't shut up, and I wound up actually learning something from you. Thanks.
@bramvanduijn8086 pretty sure they were bred with this defect so they could be targeted instead of other live stock they share an enclosure with.
Noel and Richard in the lead into the final question?
poor jack, first mr blobby now a dinosaur
0:53 Jimmy Carr just gave a clue to the answer. 😆
not a fan of jack, but the fainting bit gets me everytime. his one good joke imma be honest.
Love it
100% American and I can’t get enough of these shows or Cats do Countdown.
Noel fielding just enjoys life doesnt he
We could all learn something from him.
Ambergris is not from the vomit That's the marketing story that's been told about it, but it's actually found in the poop. IT forms in the intestine. Mel's answer is the most correct one.
Nobody knows for sure.
The people who collect it do. How often would a whale have to be sick to make enough to add to perfume? Pooping at least once a day is more or less guaranteed.
@@Pagliacci_RexI'd think whalers would know where it is found when chopping up the carcas.
@@wendyblaauw2578 because they're marine biologists?
@@Pagliacci_Rex no(unless they're japanese whalers), because they cut up more whales than other people.
THEY FAINT
Pangea wasen't called anything. There were no humans to name it.
Every one of those questions have came up on Q.I. years ago. Guess the compiler just watches other shows and smokes too much weed to come up with a dinosaur as a special guest.
Sorry to be a downer, but maybe it's because Jimmy Carr has made a career out of that made up laugh and looking like a possessed ventriloquists dummy!
I can't imagine anyone ever watching this show to see Jimmy. I think he's there to be unfunny so the good parts seem even better. Which they are relative to his contribution.
All of the info was just basic knowledge long before being on ‘Q.I.’, though. It didn’t create it.
@icturner23 Two of the "correct" answers are incorrect though. Ambergris isn't vomit, it's found in the faeces. The goats don't faint, their muscles seize up, similar to an epileptic seizure.
Yeah I don't get the hype for Jimmy Carr... all his jokes are so clearly manufactured and rehearsed. Which would be fine if they were funny, but it's essentially the same humour level as a pubescent boy. Also kind of feels like he doesn't write any of his own content, he's just an actor.
Oh and the repeated tax jokes. It's was funny maybe once. But the way he jokes about it as if it was nothing... gross.